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Made you look fgt lol

Strongest type moon character

>>45711927
That's not ciel

/tmg/, did Nasu bless you with his vore fetish?

touko

>>45712095
you mistyped Neko Arc

>>45712823
Neko Arc gets beaten by Akiha and Miyako.

>>45712214
Why is Zenobia in there

>>45712914
being the strongest doesn't mean being unbeatable

FUCK BIG BOBA AKIHA

>>45713244
This sounds like cope desu.

>>45713284
let's see
>>45711927
lost to Mordred, Kuzuki
>>45712095
lost swordfight to Vlov
>>45712823
see >>45712914
Who's the next candidate for the title of strongest then?

>>45713412
Zelretch.

>>45713265
ruined

>>45713265
Akiha...easy on the plundering...

>>45712788
Unprotected sex with Touko now.

Can Arc create anti-matter with her Marble Phantasm?

>What is he to me?----Arihiko is just a classmate. What else does he look like?"

>"Oh, so you refer to 'just' your friend by his first name, Nii-san?"
>Akiha looks at me unhappily.
>"Look, does it matter if I refer to him by his last name or his first name? Why are you hung up on that all of a sudden?"

>"My, you have no awareness, Nii-san. Maybe for women, but it is not normal for two boys to refer to each other like that. Unless they were brothers or relatives―"
>"Eh----well, maybe you're right."
>―― Even I tilt my head to the side as I think about it.
>But since the very beginning, I've always called him "Arihiko". Besides, we've known each other so long it isn't that odd.

>"Well, there is another case. Don't tell me you have that sort of relationship with him, Nii-san?"
>"――? That sort of relationship? What do you mean?"

>I respond seriously, not understanding, but Akiha shifts her gaze.

>"―― It's nothing. I was being sarcastic but you don't seem to get it, Nii-san."
>Akiha slumps her shoulders.
>―― I start to get more and more confused.

>"----Akiha. I've known him since middle school and he has always helped me out. ―― He might not look like it, but he is a good person. I don't know what you don't like about him, but don't think bad of him."

>"――――"
>Is she not satisfied about something? Akiha starts to sulk.

>"Akiha, are you listening?"
>"Yes, I hear you! This is the first time I have ever heard you defend someone so eagerly. He really must be special to you, this school friend of yours!"

>She puffs out her chest and turns her head away.
>―― Geez. I don't know why she decided to transfer here all of a sudden. Now I don't even know what's with her.

Why is Akiha Tohno such a paranoid schizo?

>>45715618
runs in the family

>>45715618
I hope in red garden Nasu extends the Akiha transferring to Shiki's school bit of her route into a 20 hour romcom.

>>45712788
>>45714457
UNPROTECTED TOUKO SEX NOW!

>>45713265
Do Nanaya superhuman muscle genetics spread to their sexual organs too? Cause those boobs can make a man ejaculate at supersonic speeds!

>>45715900
Nakadashi as much as you want, you can't impregnate a puppet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-gpFD5NfXY

>>45713412
Me

Foursome between Shiki, Miyako, Mio and Akiha

Huh. apparently the PC version of Mahoyo has an improved TL and the console versions will get patched to match.

>>45711680
RIDER SEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

>>45711680
Boobs!

Does Tohno Shiki exist in Fate? Nasu seems to imply he doesn't. Both because of Ryogi existence means no Tohno and his answer about collab appearance.

>>45716968
Tepeu and Dantes (theory).

>>45716940
Rider is just too beautiful...

Why did destroying the lesser grail cause a fire?

-The fire is a possible result of Kiritsugu attempting to destroy the Grail

-Kotomine tells Shirou he wanted a "diversion" while confronting Kiritsugu, resulting in the fire

-Kotomine simply wished for destruction and chaos

>>45711680
PURE SEXO

>>45716989
We know Poseidon, it's why you raped her

>>45712214
hard to read some of them, needs more pixels

>>45717210
Akiha bareback impregnation sex

>>45713265
She didn't look very happy

>>45717654
She realized none of her old shirts are going to fit anymore.

>>45713265
Her expression reminds me of Sonic in that famous "Nipples the Enchilada" comic where he's gesturing at the wall to Tails with a face that says "fuck am I supposed to do about this?"
I don't know why, but it does.

>>45717677
Why is there an overlap between Nasu fans and Sonic fans?

I. WANT. TO. BE. A. MAGE.

>>45717654
Not unhappy either.
Little princesses must retain their composure, you know.

>>45717210
Are those sweater legwear pieces? Those actually exist or is it just a handmade thing?

>>45717854
Fate is sufficiently popular that there's overlap with too many things at this point.

>>45717917
why does he have girl eyelashes

>>45717940
Because Sonic is a beautiful king.

>>45717950
I'm starting to think Gilgamesh had a point.

>>45715982
>>45715900
>>45712788
Even if Touko was only controlling a puppet body, if she found you attractive or decent enough (to have an offspring with), she might save your sperm at the very least if she decides to get "pregnant".

>>45718017
something about this is wrong

>>45717854
I'm not really a sonic fan but I feel like everyone's seen that comic at this point.

Saberfags....

>>45717958
Which one in particular? He had comments on consumers, I don't think he ever talked about "autism" as people call it. Which really is an incorrect term to apply here, frankly a sort of insanity or childishness is more appropriate.

>>45718133
UBW Gilgamesh deciding to kill off most of humanity via grail mud.

>>45717854
because S3&K and tsukihime were just that sick

I don't remember if anyone mentioned it, but someone just made a much more complete guide for CCC on gamefaqs on how to unlock everything
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/psp/642458-fate-extra-ccc/faqs/81056

I want Saber.

>>45718443
you can have her if you help me get Rider
deal?

>>45718371
excellent

So where is Girl's Work since we're finally moving on from Fate? Mahoyo has been released for a long time but no sign of the other 2 parts of the trilogy, we got "one half" of Tsukihime:RE. Does anyone think it will even be realistically released? And if it does, will it do so as an anime when it was last talked about a decade ago or will it go back to VN form?

>>45715908
Yes

So I'm replaying Fate Extra in preparation to play CCC
The gameplay in extra is a bit shitty and I'm just doing the thing of "just max your strenght and try to kill enemies as fast as possible". I was wondering if CCC is the same, if the best way to level up the servant is also "just dump it all in strenght" or it has differences

>>45718092
Nasu was super into Utena and Eva as a high-schooler and is a DBCHAD

>In the afterward of Volume 5 Narita recalls something he asked Nasu 4 years ago:
>"If Gilgamesh met Humbaba, how would he react?"
>Nasu Responded:
>"Vegeta right after Cell becomes Perfect or After Freiza Transforms, but instead of energy blast barrage that Vegeta usually does, he would scream KUAHHHH and like a cold oni like will and like shoot the Gate of Babylon barrage instead"
>Narita Joke Response:
>"I guess that collecting Seven (Heroic) Spirits and wishing upon a Dragon is the only choice...."

wakameparadise.wordpress.com/2017/08/20/nasu-ikuhara/
>—Many fans didn’t watch “Eva”, “Nadesico”, and “Utena” as they were airing. What kind of impact did watching them in real-time have on you?

>Nasu: Enough of an impact that I thought: “I don’t care if it messes up my whole life. I want to step into this industry.” Everyone is scared up until they reach that point, right? I had dreams, and was relatively confident in my abilities, but I couldn’t answer the question: “Is this industry great enough that even if my dreams are crushed and I’m ruined, I can still laugh in the end and say ‘Oh well, it happens’?” So I might have had the option of living out my life as a regular salaryman. But while I had been solely devoted to novels up until then, “Eva” and “Utena” made me genuinely think “I could work in this world even if it killed me. I’d even die happy.” Fortunately for me, being as secluded as I was, Takeuchi said to me “Let’s make a game, I’ll help you”, so I didn’t die and was able to feed myself instead. But a lot of people entered this industry because of something they admired. It’s a driving force… Well, I guess it did mess up my whole life (laughs)

>>45719477
There's no stat point distribution in CCC, it happens automatically when you level up.

>>45719773
the gameplay is still the same shitty rock paper scissors?

>>45719780
Mostly yes, but there are some improvements like auto button that selects proper commands for visible enemy actions.

>>45719824
eh, guess I'm still going to play it on the easiest difficulty and cheat with savestates, as I'm mostly only interested in the story

>>45719632
>compared to Vegeta
>jobber
fitting

>>45719127
What is Girl's Work about? Is it part of the Nasuverse? Does it have magic?

>>45716968
I'm more curious if the Tohno clan exist in Fate worlds, I can see Nasu making the split between worlds bigger by having the clan only in Tsukihime worlds, the Demon Hunter Organization in Fate just hunt other mixed blood instead of a entire clan

sigh...it's going to be nothing isn't it?

>>45716968
>>45720226
Were the Nanayas mentioned in the second volume of Adventures when Waver visited Japan?

Will the Jews at Hollywood ever let us get a live-action Fate mobie?

>>45720901
I don't believe so.

>>45716968
Tohno Shiki? Probably not, unless what happened with the Tohno and Nanaya in Tsukihime world is similar, something I highly doubt. Nanaya Shiki could, however, exist if the Nanaya clan exists in the Fate world.
>Both because of Ryogi existence means no Tohno
You're probably referring to the PLUS-DISC statement, suggesting that it's highly unlikely that two MEoDP user exist. If so, this would be irrelevant for someone like Nanaya Shiki since his birth is not defined by the MEoDP at all.
>his answer about collab appearance.
Nasu's statements are not very reliable. He mentioned a few years ago that Akiha and Tohno coming to Chaldea was unlikely, but yet he stated a year or so ago that if a collaboration with Tsukihime were to be made, he would like everyone to be involved - including characters like Shiki, Akiha, etc.

>>45720420
Don't really give a shit one way or the other if the best to be had is more anime

>>45717854
There's literally a Sonic game where Sonic is a knight in King Arthur's era.

>>45719127
>since we're finally moving on from Fate
I must have missed the memo.

AHEM
WE HAVE OLYMPICS THIS YEAR
WHERE IS THE FAR SIDE TRAILER

>>45721083
That just meant Tsuki characters would be in the context of a Tsuki collab and not Fate. I generally agree though. No reason Shiki doesn't exist, it's just likely things went different and he's either a super demon slaying assassin or living it up with the Tohno siblings. Then again it's not like it's impossible for him to get the eyes there but without Roa things should be different. Especially assuming in R that Shiki doesn't get the eyes until the second incident.

>>45721846
Can always fall back on he meant a four year wait and it's only been three.
If that fails then maybe he meant a five year wait like the wait between Rio and Tokyo.

>>45721846
>>45721933
He also promised content scheduled to be released in the meantime.

>>45721865
Has Nasu ever mentioned if human order being stronger in the Fate sides mean that half bloods like Tohno have better control of their impulses?

>>45722139
Hope you enjoyed your fgo characters in Melty and your Arc in fgo.

>>45722177
Oni in general don't get much detailed information at all despite the various related characters that appeared.

>>45722139
Piece in Paradise and Melty and some anthology. Not a lot.

>>45722368
>>45722177
While it doesn't mean much since Narita's world has already been made "an exception," one of the masters in Fate/strange fake has oni heritage and her family's magecraft is an enhanced form of reinforcement focused on restructuring to allow their bodies to be more oni-like in function. She displayed considerable control and didn't seem to have any weird impulses and was even able to graciously accept her defeat by Rin.

>>45720086
Vegeta and Gilgamesh are factually the strongest in both of their respective IPs.

>>45721383

I saw a theory on reddit that was actually pretty decent. Basically True Arc route would be a route that diverges before Shiki kills Arcueid. What would you say are the chances of this?

What exactly warrants being so secretive about Sion?

>>45719276
I don't remember reading these

>>45718144
Eh, that was about consumer society.

>>45722788
How would it diverge exactly?

>>45723677
Shiki doesn't kill Arcueid but still gets involved with her.

>>45719892
Playing as Gil is already the equivalent of cheating, the game literally lists the servant choice with the following difficulty
>Saber: Easy
>Archer: Normal
>Caster: Hard
>Gilgamesh: Cheat

>>45717854
It's not an overlap, people love posting that comic because the expressions have a lot of meme potential.

>>45722494
I think they're just fakers trying to become closer to Oni. Meeting the real deal(Kouma) on their way to devour a god got the greatest mage in their lineage's history fucked so hard their family will never recover.

>>45723949
I mean Kouma is literally just not-Akuma, of course they all lost to him.

>>45723767
>>45722788
>>45723677
I think the idea is interesting but that it won't happen. Shiki killing her is pivotal. Without dying she won't become human. Literally it's the malfunction that arises from their fated encounter scene that serves as the backbone of their story. I suppose you could move her killing to another point but I think it's unlikely.

>>45723956
Of course, I just mean that they're mages trying to larp.

>>45723995
True, but the idea here is True Arcueid route is an Arcueid route that's entirely separate from the one in Blue Glass, exploring an entirely different relationship. The ending in Blue Glass isn't called Arcueid Normal Ending, it's just Arcueid Ending.

>>45724176
It's certainly possible and I'd be all for them shifting the kill point if they really want to do something different and surprising. With the ifs and dream connections they have more than enough room to wiggle something weird but fated. They already gave us DINO park after all.

>>45722728
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZviucZt4WnA

>>45715861
trust the Red Garden plan

When is the Animeplex anouncements to know whether Fate will get an anime remake like some dudes hope?

>>45724520
11 hours but not sure when the fate segment is

>>45718371
>look through it
>I've already missed like 4 necessary flags for the CCC route and I'm only on chapter 3
Holy shit, this is Takeshi's Challenge level of cryptic bullshit.

>>45718371
>you literally can't complete Archer's SG if you pick a male MC because he won't give his final SG to a boy
Bromance route btfo
Also it's good to see people still making guides on gamefaqs, it was much better when that was the norm and not everyone having to scrounge through wikis and reddit posts.

I want to impregnate BB.
That's all I have to say.

In Mahoyo Aoko mentions during the battle with Touko that the old school building is somehow nostalgic and that Touko shouldn't have put her workshop there.

Why'd it be nostalgic?

>>45724520
>>45724532
There's a Fate talk session in 4 hours looking back at the series, and a 3 hour long Aniplex 20th anniversary 'Thankx' event in 10 hours 30 minutes.
From what I can tell only the Thanx event has a stream, and a ticket is required.

>>45724677

Could Shirou attract the Tsukihime girls by repeatedly failing the high jump?

>>45722728
>>45724312
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqTPNnfDBP4

>>45725603
Maybe Arc. Nobody else.

"It all le happens in a separate continuity world/setting because I took so long between releases that I tried to shoehorn garbage fgo lore everywhere that the original works are outdated and contradicted."

>>45725603
Without the MC buff and plot armor, Shirou would be the kind of guy to get cucked pretty quickly. So, realistically? Nobody. Besides, Tsukihime's heroines have great taste, and love men who can rape them furiously at any moment, something Caren has declared to be impossible for Shirou.

sacchin would rape shirou

>>45717854
I really liked the Adventure series as a kid, not so much the other games, so I don't really care for Sonic. Both are shounenslop in a good way

>>45724520
>whether Fate will get an anime remake like some dudes hope?
That is some high-tier cope unless Takeuchi somehow find an anime company that is willing to do it because Ufotable wouldn't touch it.

>>45725603
He would attract best boy instead

>>45725703
The only way to make Arc attracted to you is murdering her beyond the point most immortals can recover from.

>>45726120
or gambling with gacha

>>45726120
Well I suppose there's a first time for everything

>>45726120

>>45726182
>can't see them

Reminder that Nasu wanted you to start with Fate/Zero because the end of Zero is the start of Stay Night

>Nasu: I told Aniplex's producer that I wanted the Fate/Zero novels turned into an anime. It was a good suggestion.

>Many anime fans want there to be a lot of cute bishoujo characters in the work, and while they work hard to meet those needs, Iwakami, an important producer at Aniplex, wasn't satisfied just by doing that. I suggested that he tackle Fate/Zero, a dark and serious story full of raw emotion. He had the resolve, and that's how they ended up adapting Fate/Zero.

>Takeuchi: Many anime studios wanted to make Fate/Zero into an anime, but as far as actually doing that, I couldn't feel very excited about the idea. It was a story that came into being out of the love and respect that Urobuchi-san had for Fate/stay night, and was designed to deepen the enjoyment a reader could get out of Fate. Adapting it into an anime might mean stepping on that love, and I didn't want to make something that didn't capture the feeling of the original novels.

>Nasu: In addition to the original game, there's a fan disk and many other items. Maybe that's intimidating to a beginner. Setting that aside for a moment, I want people to see the anime version of Zero. Even without knowing the story of Fate/stay night, you'll get pulled into the story of Fate/Zero. While Zero is a part of the Fate universe, I think the anime version of Zero is good enough to stand on its own as a superlative work. Please check out Zero.

>Takeuchi: Many anime studios wanted to make Fate/Zero into an anime, but as far as actually doing that, I couldn't feel very excited about the idea. It was a story that came into being out of the love and respect that Urobuchi-san had for Fate/stay night, and was designed to deepen the enjoyment a reader could get out of Fate. Adapting it into an anime might mean stepping on that love, and I didn't want to make something that didn't capture the feeling of the original novels.

>>45726226
But Zero spoils a bunch of shit that FSN takes its time to reveal.

>>45722728
>>45723831
Kanna Nobutoshi. Lancer from FSN, Knuckles from Sonic the Hedgehog, etc.

Nasu is a Sonic chad all this time bros.

Why doesn't Archer use caliburn with broken phantasm?

>>45726240
There's only one role Canna should always be mentioned for playing

>>45726238
Nasu is a known sellout
Remember an interview where Urobuchi was saying you probably need to experience Fate/Stay Night to properly understand Fate/Zero, and Nasu meanwhile was saying people should start with Zero.
When asked if people can experience Fate/Extra Last Encore with no previous knowledge of Fate or the Extraverse he was also all "oh yeah totally!".

>>45726256
>When asked if people can experience Fate/Extra Last Encore with no previous knowledge of Fate or the Extraverse he was also all "oh yeah totally!".
This is quite possibly a more bullshit statement than ANY retcon that's happened in FGO.

>>45726256
or he is just retarded. He praised horizon zero dawn writing before.

>>45726252

>>45726256
You can read the afterwords of the FZ bunko if you want to read Urobuchi change his mind about not reading FZ before FSN.

Sonic heroes
Sonic heroes
Give us a reason
And we're on our way

>>45726301
>Lancer finally get a break from Archer in Samurai remnant
>Giglamesh is still there.
kek

>>45726252
tbf, Nobutoshi Canna only provided the speaking voice of Basara Nekki. Yoshiki Fukuyama is his singing voice, and that's the part of the character people remember.

>>45726247
If he could use Caliburn, he probably wouldn't have become a CG.

>>45726359
until it turns out to be shit again, and the basement get skipped as well.

>>45726371
He knows about her wish, so he must be pretty close to her to know about caliburn at least. It doesn't have to be romantic and shit.

>UBW manga
>Mix in stuff from the Fate route

What's our stance on route mixing?

>>45726379
>What's our stance on route mixing?
The anime could've done it a lot better than they did

>>45726372
Why would it be skipped?

>>45726388
Some retarded reasions
I mean Deen pretty much gave it less than a few minutes of screen times despite it being a significant part of Fate Shirou character and why he didn't turn to Archer.

>>45726408
I think we're well past the Deen days.

>>45726438
We have HF Kirei vs Shirou, so it's not that farfetched.

>>45716989
me on right

>>45726441
Ufto HF Kirei vs Shirou*

>>45726441
>>45726450
UBW and HF were perfect adaptions.

Try and find a flaw.

>>45726460
Just like the Tsukihime anime artstyle

>>45726441
That was just a poor adaptation of the scene. There will be a basement scene either way, it just might be shit.

>>45726408
>>45726438
>being a significant part of Fate Shirou character and why he didn't turn to Archer.

Read the VN, but didn't understand this

>>45726473
Nta but I was always under the impression that Fate route Shirou DID turn into Archer. Specifically, into UBW Archer. As I said like 2 weeks ago, this is just a wierd theory I've always had, but the way I've explained how Archer acts differently in each route is because each came from a different Shirou.
>In the Fate route we don't know his past, though Nasu said basically that Shirou won the HGW and did nothing to try and understand Saber so basically he experienced no character growth from it
>In UBW it's specifically Shirou from the Fate route as we saw it. He followed his dreams in super naive fashion and got painfully bitten in the ass for it.
>in HF it's Shirou in the UBW route thinking maybe there's a chance this time.

>>45726473
He refused to use a miracle(The Holy Grail) to save the orphans. He learned to accept the tragic events as it is and the only way to atone is to fix the aftermath (Like punishing the people who caused the event) . It's something Archer never got over in his timeline and regret not being able to save everyone.

>Your wish will not come true unless there is a clear evil. Even if it's not something you approve of, a hero of justice requires a villain to defeat.
> “…If there’s no Holy Grail, there’s no reason to fight. This ridiculous fight is pointless.”
>“You have no reason to fight, huh? Why do you say that now? You had no reason to fight from the very beginning.

Why did Kirei mean by this?

>>45726256
>When asked if people can experience Fate/Extra Last Encore with no previous knowledge of Fate or the Extraverse he was also all "oh yeah totally!".
But I did like it, and I never touched a single Extra game, nor I plan to.

>>45726066
Shiki and Shirou are 100% heterosexual.

>>45720420
The Fate talk show is over.
Now, I am just waiting for that one japanese dude on twitter to tweet something since he joined the event.

Fate talk session ended.

>>45726596
>>45726473
Why is having a selfish desire is literally impossible for Shirou?

>>45726775
Because he has massive survivor's guilt and thinks he isn't allowed to be selfish. It's only in the HF route that he acknowledges it's not a bad thing to prioritize what HE wants.

>>45726765
Yeah nothing fucking happens.
They talk about fucking HF instead.

>>45726782
>>45726795
Was Kerry right? Should Shirou have not been selfless?

>>45726795
I can't believe they talked about past fate works during an event for talking about past fate works.

>>45726804
The problem is Shirou thinks if he puts all the burden on himself, the scales that Kerry talks about are balanced and thus no one has to suffer but him. The problem is that's usually not how it works, in many cases both people suffer.

>>45726805
At least talk about their fucking route.

>>45726460
>misses the point of the entire climax in HF 3 by having Shirou actually able to fight relatively evenly with Kotomine instead of it being a one-sided stomp that was still killing both of them
>added flashy effects and a PUBLIC BATTLE to the Lancer vs. True Assassin fight

>>45726812
Why is Shirou clowned on by the cast for being selfless?

>>45727002
>climax in HF3
You mean Shirou using Rule Breaker on Sakura? Shirou vs Kirei was never anything but GAR fanservice for the sake of GAR fanservice, and the movies improved that by making it an actual fight rather than just Shirou being an inner monologue-spewing sitting duck.

>>45727079
People honestly aren't fans of matyrs who go out of their way to be martyrs. Even Jesus was kinda hoping he wouldn't have to die before it happened, hence his famous final words (according to Matthew) including the line of
>My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?

>>45727100
Smartest Sakurafag right here.

>>45727117
Go ahead and tell me in which scenes the track Into the Night plays. Hint: It only plays in one scene per route.

>>45727100
>and the movies improved that by making it an actual fight rather than just Shirou being an inner monologue-spewing sitting duck.
Truth. As much as I love the VN scene, it wasn't much of a fight. Kirei was beating the shit out of Shirou while still avoiding all the swords poking out of him.

>>45726273
>He praised horizon zero dawn writing before
It wasn't THAT bad, was it?

>>45727168
>Truth. As much as I love the VN scene, it wasn't much of a fight. Kirei was beating the shit out of Shirou while still avoiding all the swords poking out of him.

And Fate was any better?

>>45727134
>He thinks Into the Night = climax in each route
Yeah I remember Into the Night being played while Saber and Shirou used Avalon in Fate.
Like I said, Smartest Sakurafag right here.

>>45727187
No? That joke of a final fight is one of many reasons that Fate is indisputably seen as the worst route. It's obvious that Nasu wrote the characters as he went, with Fate ending up with a lot of odd inconsistencies caused by on-the-fly retcons in UBW and HF.

>>45726689
Emiya's life pursuits are dishonest, farcical and hedonistic at the core, much like numerous other heroes, and unlike the people who can qualify for the actual true hero of justice mantle.
or
He wants to make him to believe that to break him, possible for esoteric reasons past the purview of the story.

>>45727206
How is Emiya hedonistic?

>>45727106
>People honestly aren't fans of matyrs who go out of their way to be martyrs
Beyond a basic consideration as is proper for any opinion of other sapients, are the opinions of all those people in any way valuable on the subject of combating evil?

>>45727220
Shirou isn't doing it to combat evil though, he sees it as a way of making up for his fuckup. A fuckup that was literally never his fault. His overly sacrificial nature is his need to atone, it has nothing to do with stopping what's bad in the world.

>>45727187
Zero retroactively made this a lot cooler.

>>45727214
Hedonism is pursuit of pleasure, any pleasure whether good or evil. It doesn't need to be an overtly stated obsession, or explicitly that particular type of corruption. Emiya's whole life revolves around that ideal, it's how he gets his kick in a way. He is legitimate in his pursuits of a higher ideal, however incompetent he is at it, but he's also warped in all the exact ways that he titters close to hedonism.

>>45727227
>Shirou isn't doing it to combat evil though
It's something that Fate Shirou does in the LE if I remember correctly.

>>45727238
Yeah but Fate route Shirou also suffers basically no real consequences for his actions which is why he gets to stay naive and never have to really change.

>>45727227
This guilt inherently cannot be sated barring providence, and the path he seeks is exactly on the same road as the battle against evil. Shirou doesn't hurt good people, after all.

>>45727205
>It's obvious that Nasu wrote the characters as he went, with Fate ending up with a lot of odd inconsistencies caused by on-the-fly retcons in UBW and HF.

Nasu wrote Saber and Rin route all in one go at the same time, then wrote HF afterwards.

>That's right, when I finished writing the Saber and Rin route all in one go, part of me thought the game wouldn't be settled unless I flipped it over. As the theme of Fate/stay night, if we assume the Saber route to be posing a question, the Rin route is the answer and the Sakura route is a practical application. In the beginning there were plans for an Illya route, but if we were to add it, the game would have wound up being incredibly huge. So we had this plan to release the Saber route and Rin route as "Fate/stay night", and the Illya route and Sakura route as "Fate/other night". But when we thought of the 8800 yen price, we decided we should include the Sakura route after all, so in the end, we decided to combine the Illya route and Sakura route into one route."

FSN was originally supposed to be two "Near side" Routes - which ended up being Fate and UBW, and two far darker "Far side" Routes, which were supposed to be the unnamed Sakura and Illya Routes.
Plan didn't quote pan out, and VN had to go gold sooner than Nasu would have wanted, so here comes Heaven's Feel, which is a frankenstein's monster cobbled together out of corpses of the two unfinished routes.

>>45727245
Anon, please don't introduce pseudintellectualism into this. Nasu doesn't think that deeply, he's a fucking chuuni.

>>45727242
>Shirou
>Naive

>>45727251
In specifically the Fate route? Yes. It's the other routes that actively challenge his core ideals and cause him to either reinforce them tempered by his own experiences (UBW) or reject them entirely fo the sake of his own happiness (HF)

>>45727242
>which is why he gets to stay naive and never have to really change.
He does though. That was the point of the basement.
He realized he can't save everyone, and the only way to fix that is by punishing the people who cause the tragedy

>>45727250
Chuuni is in no way means absence of depth.
Nasu doesn't need to think deeply, his words speak much well enough on their own, regardless whether or not others notice it.
At times a notion can be posited that there's something fundamentally wrong with TM works, insidious and uncanny.

>>45727106
That was a quote from Psalm 22, to be clear. It's shorthand for the whole psalm, so he's once again reaffirming that he will be resurrected.

>>45727201
Shirou facing his father's murderer and Saber finally getting one over on Gilgamesh was the climax of Fate, yeah.

>>45726126
Not at all. They show how not being killed is a negative.

>>45727262
yeah with EMIYA playing in the background.

What is the moral lesson of Fate?

>>45727265
Guess that scene isn't the climax of Fate, then.

>>45727267
Not everything has a lesson.

>>45727267
impregnate saber

>>45727258
And then he grows up to be Archer anyway which makes one question how much he actually learned.

>>45727267
Be true to yourself.

>>45727242
>never have to really change.
Dumbass. He's already changing by the bloodfort scene.

>>45727267
Some Japanese works are simply too homo.
That's how it is. It can't be helped.

>>45722682
You know that makes it MORE embarrassing, right giltard?

>>45727271
>he grows up to be Archer
What do you mean he grow up to be like Archer?
He never wish for a retarded miracle to save people.

>>45727289
>a retarded miracle
...

>>45727271
>And then he grows up to be Archer
Fate Shirou isn't Archer you retard

>>45727269
That's not entirely true. By the end of Fate route that's not exactly the case anymore. He overcomed his suicidal ideation with the help of Saber and their mutual love and support. His ideal has been affirmed by Saber and her life, mirroring his own in many aspects. As Saber declared that her life and path wasn't wrong in the church's basement, and so did Shirou. He now has someone who loves his way of life. A true soulmate that will one day open the gates of heaven for him. And as such he can't be throwing his life away anymore. The way I see it - Fate Shirou ascended. He is fine to let Saber go, content in knowing that he loves her, forever. In Buddhism this symbolizes braking free from attachments and attaining liberation and nirvana, their idea of heaven. And that exactly where he ends up after death. His ideal is unshakable, his resolution and will is bordering on inhuman. Yes, one might say that he ceased to be human. Did he become an Overman? Possibly. A Tin Man? Most definitely. In any case, Fate Shirou is the one that reaches the Avalon, despite being the weakest and loneliest of them. That alone should tell you how much Saber and her appearance in his life, even for such a short and turbulent period, affected him.

UBW was the opposite of Fate in someone is trying to help Shirou, that's Rin, so the date and all is for Shirou, rather than Saber. But the major issue is that Nasu doesn't bother to write them as happy together and real equals, not just allies in the battlefield, but Shirou making something for Rin or Rin claiming they'll be happy together. He adds that in FHA (if it's not a guest writer) and pretty much says the relationship hasn't changed. It's all about Shirou. Nothing about Rin. It's a stagnant relationship that is very onesided. Archer covers the half of pertaining to the flaws in Shirou's ideals and how they brought him nothing but suffering and Gilgamesh covers the half pertaining to Shirou's ideal being borrowed from another

Read the VN.

>>45727293
A retarded miracle to save people*
At least quote it properly

>>45727302
I was more amazed at someone calling miracles retarded, that's all.

>>45727289
>What do you mean he grow up to be like Archer?
No I mean Fate Shirou LITERALLY grows up to be the Archer we know in the UBW route, a man embittered by his own ideals causing his downfall

>>45727296
Why wouldn't he be? Fate Shirou barely knew the Archer of his route, he never learned to not become the man he was

>>45727315
>No I mean Fate Shirou LITERALLY grows up to be the Archer we know in the UBW route
He never regrets his life, you fucking retard.
In LE, he literally said his life was a satisfying life for him.
If anything, he is more like Nameless than FSN Archer. (Even that LE manga design of him was inspired by Nameless outfit)

>>45727315
>Why wouldn't he be?
Because he saved Saber unlike Archer. Because the last episode shows him reaching Avalon instead of becoming a counter guardian. Because Nasu said Archer doesn't come from the Fate route.

>>45727259
No I just mean you sound like the retard who wouldn't stop arguing a couple weeks back against the Nasuverse's differences between magecraft and magic, making grandiose speeches and talking about religion and fantasy authors. No one gives a shit about any of that pseudointellectual philosophical garbage, we're here to lewdpost, argue about powerlevels, and talk about pointless but neat side topics like the Nanaya family bloodline.

>>45727270
But impossible to accomplish lessons are the hardest to learn!

>>45727333
>Because Nasu said Archer doesn't come from the Fate route.
He said the Fate route's Archer doesn't come from the Fate route but instead a wierd alternate timeline version of it where him and Saber win the grail war, destroy the grail, and Shirou basically learns nothing because he never thought to form any real connection with Saber in that timeline.

>>45727339
Yeah I know, the point is Shirou after the end of the Fate route in the vn =/= Archer

>>45727300
That's fascinating moment of analysis and all, but the point that not everything has a lesson stands unchallenged.
Much like the idea that some select teacher simply may make things up to serve agendas of any unknown entities, contradict actual subject (any subject) related rationales and true wisdom, create a story for its own sake, etc.
Lessons are in the mind, exactly "the way I see it" you mention, but at the end of a day, this side of space-time, it's just a nice story with cool battles plus some select questionable content and evil artistry.
Any actual lessons will still be ultimately more practical to learn in a more dedicated fashion, and any esoteric lessons that are to be learned in this story will likely elude you and matter little as you're likely similar to most other normal people, with similar pursuits.

>>45727332
Thankfully I'm not.
>No I just mean you sound like the retard who wouldn't stop arguing a couple weeks back against the Nasuverse's differences between magecraft and magic
I presume it was the typical box-to-box concept separator spiel?

>>45727332
>we're here to lewdpost
Speaking of which, he haven't had one in a while, Need to fix that.

>>45727366
There's a booba akiha up there

>>45727360
>I presume it was the typical box-to-box concept separator spiel?
something something explaining how mangic works takes away its majesty and real magic can't be defined. Which I agree with but that's not how magic works in this setting. All that really matters is that your writing is internally consistent so you don't come across as a hack writer.

>>45727372
We can always use more!

>>45727296
>>45727300
>>45727315
>>45727330
>Hey did you know he's a selfless guy? He's really selfless. He'll do anything because he's so selfless. Selfless survivors guilt survivors selflessly guilty gear strive survivalist.
>NOOOOO SABER YOU CANT FIGHT YOU'RE JUST A HELPLESS LITTLE GIRL

Shiki was always the better written protag

>>45727386
>depth perception
>rape
woah so interesting

>>45727383
>something something explaining how mangic works takes away its majesty and real magic can't be defined
Ah, those types, yeah, tiresome bunch.
I wonder if those still make those non-stop magic system threads on /tg/, bumpfag and all.

>>45724584
What does BB ACTUALLY supposed to stand for? I don't remember her saying when I played, but then I failed to get the CCC route.

>>45727386
>sword
>>45727396
>knife
Your Occam's razor projections aren't up to standards.

>>45727386
>hiding behind Shiki once everyone called him out for his retardation

>>45727404
Black Blossom. Because like the Sakura Five and Sakura herself, all Sakurafaces are named after some kind of flower.

>>45727415
Violet is a flower too?

Playing it right now, but what do the other servants see?

>>45727417
Anon...

>>45727424
>breast pedestal
lmao

>>45727424
Which BB Channel scene is this?

>>45727425
Ouch.

>Saber erased her own human self to become the inhuman "king"
>Shirou lost his own self and became an inhuman "save everyone" machine
>Kerry after killing his father disconnected his desires and became a "kill the few" machine
>Archer gave up his life to the World and became a "exterminate the threat" machine
>Siegfried gave up his own desires and became a "grant the peoples' wishes" machine
>Tohno Shiki when his Nanaya conditioning awakens loses his self and becomes a "kill demons" machine
what is it with TM and people becoming machines

Reminder that in the CP timeline, Gil deep down wants to be stomped on by this girl and all of his bravado is hiding his need to be dominated.

>>45727415
That, and her basically being Dark Sakura.

>>45727444
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Carry on.

>>45727447
FSN Gil isn't even consistent and Nasu acknowledges this. His personality changes with each route to fit the role he needs to fulfill. In the Fate route, he's an NTR man out to take Saber away from Shirou. In UBW, he's an omnicidal maniac who is disgusted with the modern world and stands as the final opposition to Shirou's ideology and the symbol of the "authentic article" to Shirou's "imitation." In Heaven's Feel, he just exists as the embodiment of the strongest being devoured by an unsuspected threat. He bows out early to symbolize Servants not really being on the forefront of the conflict in HF. When you think of Gilgamesh, you're likely only really thinking of one version of him in Stay Night, because he's legitimately handled as 2.5 different characters within it.

>>45727458
Melt is closer to Dark Sakura than BB is. Deep down BB is still a good girl and is doing everything she does because she loves her senpai so much and will do ANYTHING to save them from their fate. Melt does not care about that, she's gone so full yandere that she wants to dissolve your body with her nectar so that you and everyone else can only exist as a part of her.

>>45727463
>When you think of Gilgamesh, you're likely only really thinking of one version of him in Stay Night
Actually I think of how he's been portrayed in everything that came out AFTER FSN, which is a hell of a lot more consistent in characterization.

>>45727463
https://desuarchive.org/a/search/text/%22authentic%20article%22%20to%20Shirou%27s%20%22imitation.%22/

>>45727444
You forgot one
>Karna had such a savior complex due to the circumstances of his upbringing that he never turned down anyone that asked him for help.
His own death was caused pretty much purely because he was too nice for his own good.

>>45727444
All of those people share one trait.

>>45727494
>His own death was caused pretty much purely because he was too nice for his own good.

Wasn't that Shirou's problem?

>>45727496
Having penises?

>>45727503
Killers of inhuman/unjust, destroyers.

>>45727509
But also having a penis

So there is one more announcement chance in a few hours?

>>45727513
Original Arthur was (supposedly) a man, and Proto Arthur was one clearly, so you might as well be on point.

>>45727527
"On point" wasn't a cock innuendo, just so you know.

>>45727475
That's the thing: Dark Sakura was actually trying to save the day in her own way whenever she wasn't having Angra Mainyu-induced edgelord brainfarts. She kidnapped Illya so the grail war could be resolved without her becoming a full incarnation of Angra Mainyu, killed Zouken, and then tried to have Saber destroy the greater grail. It's often forgotten because Rin gaslights her into coming off as being in the wrong no matter how hard she tries to do the right thing, but it's a character aspect of her that BB was created in order to make more clear.

>>45727396
>>45727411
Shiki is a morally upright individual and a normal boy most of the time but he's such a fucking goofball with weird hobbies and passtimes that throw everyone in his house off the moment he gets comfortable because the thought he was laidback and mature rather than childish and energetic and playing pranks here and there but can still flip on a fucking dime and can be colder and even more disturbing than Ryougi if he wanted to. Not to mention his incredibly fucked up life and past and nihilistic yet optimistic view on life due to his near death experience on top of the subtle sociopathy he occasionally displays sometimes even in lax situations makes him possibly the hardest character to self-insert into

Aside from his shitty, OOC threat to Ciel that Nasu threw in there just for shock factor any rape scenes involving Shiki are him being possessed, manipulated, or literally him seeing what SHIKI is doing via their connection. Shiki is outright disgusted by rape, vomits when he sees SHIKI's dreams of it and nearly kills himself the one time he goes through with assaulting someone because of Roa because of the utter disgust and remorse even if it literally isn't his fault.

If actively trying to hunt down the vampire in your city who's killing and trying to turn the populace into his undead army while keeping someone you killed safe, facing an unholy amalgamation of 666 immortal lives on your own to avenge your classmate and innocent people who were eaten by him, spending literal days on end searching for his missing classmate just to uphold a nothing promise he was never obligated to against everyone's best wishes, uncovering the mysteries of his past and coming to grip with the tragedies surrounding both his blood family and his adoptive one and those affected by it out of his own will and desires isn't kino I don't know what to tell you.

Also Kagetsu Tohya since the situation is more mellow and we can see him more in his day to day life, he's a pretty chill, goofy, sweet, and fun dude to be around. Can be a bit of an ass from time to time but it for me it just adds to how human he is compared to the the other Type Moon protags despite possibly being the most 'broken' as a person out of them next to Shirou.

>>45727497
Karna took it to an extreme, he was named the Patron Saint of Charity after his death for a reason. The reason he died was because in the middle of the night, before the battle that would claim his life, Arjuna's father the thunder god Indra took from him the golden armor that made Karna utterly indestructible, hoping Karna would stop waging this foolish war just in hopes it would just ONCE in his life make his foster father proud of him with the extremes he went to defend their family honor.
Karna did not relent, he went to battle anyway knowing he'd surely die, saying
>There is no need to hate you. It is simply a matter of being a step ahead. In fact--yes. Though you are a god, you are also a father. Such a thing brings me joy. To me, defeat is bringing shame upon my father. Even though death awaits me, I cannot run away
Arjuna killed Karna in battle the very next day.

>>45727553
>Shiki is a morally upright individual and a normal boy most of the time but he's such a fucking goofball with weird hobbies and passtimes that throw everyone in his house off the moment he gets comfortable because the thought he was laidback and mature rather than childish and energetic and playing pranks here and there but can still flip on a fucking dime and can be colder and even more disturbing than Ryougi if he wanted to. Not to mention his incredibly fucked up life and past and nihilistic yet optimistic view on life due to his near death experience on top of the subtle sociopathy he occasionally displays sometimes even in lax situations makes him possibly the hardest character to self-insert into
This reads like a parody.

>>45727553
https://desuarchive.org/a/search/text/Shiki%20is%20a%20morally%20upright%20individual/

>>45727546
>>45727475
Speaking of BB, what's up with the scenes near the end where BB suddenly loses her normal personality and becomes a sweet, kinda ditzy girl with no awareness of what's going on and just sees her senpai in front of her?

>>45727577
Her personality is starting to get overridden by the Moon Cell and she's expending all of her processing power fighting it, so she comes across as an airhead.

>>45727444
Man, this is even worse than it seems at first.

>>45727553
>>45727559
>Shiki
>Not Based

Read the vn.

>>45727603
I didn't say that he wasn't "based".

>>45727588
Plus the more Alter Egos she creates, both the weaker she gets and the more distasteful aspects of her personality she loses.

Please explain to me like I'm retarded how your servant at the end of CCC is able to bypass BB's Mother Goddess trait that makes her immune to all damage

What makes Tsukihime better than FSN is the atmosphere, you can feel the danger, the drama, the mindfuck. The music does a better job to add to the atmosphere than FSN. The characters interactions are so superior to the character interactions of FSN that it hurts, and the slice of life segments and Shirou's point of view is fucking annoying. FSN plot is too forced at times, some times they lead to plot holes,weak plot or unexplainable developments. Tsukihime's plot flows better, it's simple and credible.

Tsukihime's plot is also more mature, each resolution have more weight to them 1) Arc and Shiki didn't end up in good terms in Ciel's True End, 2) After every single of the Far Side of the Moon routes, Arc and Ciel will keep hunting Roa, 3) Akiha ends up as a doll in one ending, 4) Akiha and Kohaku die in another end, 5) Hisui's Good End wasn't precisely happy. In F/sn, only 2 characters couldn't be saved: 1) Ilya in UBW, 2) Saber and Ilya in HF.

Shirou never actually shows his resolve when it comes to deal with people who are prepared to kill,and the story does not have serious and mature Masters - aside from Zouken and the only time Shirou had to confront one of his friends, was in HF against Black Saber. Shiki, on the other hand, had to fight Arc, Ciel, Akiha, and Satsuki at some point - there's also the point when he realizes all what Kohaku has been doing. FSN is just too light and aimed at teenagers. That why the dark and cold as ice Tsukihime is superior.

>>45727690
https://desuarchive.org/a/search/text/What%20makes%20Tsukihime%20better%20than%20FSN%20is%20the%20atmosphere/
>>/jp/?task=search&ghost=false&search_text=What+makes+Tsukihime+better+than+FSN+is+the+atmosphere
Quite a history for this one

>>45727685
Potnia Theron makes it so nothing of earthly origin can harm her. That's the key, nothing of EARTHLY origin. What you're doing in that mini-dungeon is resetting your servant's core so that they originate in the Moon Cell itself, not earth. Last I checked, the Moon Cell isn't Earth, it's Earth's moon. Your servant has been turned into an alien, it's basically a TYPE now.
Basically, it's the Macbeth loophole like pic related
>no man of woman born will kill me
>joke's on you bitch, I was a c-section so I technically wasn't born from a woman!

>>45727287
Lizfag, I haven't the faintest idea what you could be insinuating, and I'd prefer if you'd keep your redundant quips to yourself.

>>45727546
While true, how BB and Sakura express their love is very different. Sakura does it through trying to effectively be the perfect little housewife for Shirou before her secret is revealed, while BB bullies Hakuno out of an almost childish affection.

Can /tmg/ refute this?

>>45727808
I'm a Fate route fan!

>>45727808
I'm a fan of both of those things and I look like neither of those men.

>>45727816
Fate route walked so HF route could run.

>>45727808
Imagine being filtered by UBW.

>>45727830
Yeah but on the other hand, it killed best girl

Ufotable themselves confirmed that UBW is shounen and HF is canon.

>>45727842
They're just so damn cute together

>>45727849
All endings are canon, and using Japanese talks about maturity as a standard to rely upon is rather questionable.

>>45727855
>You're forgetting the most important part. Some people question why King Arthur would fall for some Japanese ginger manlet. But let's really think about this for a sec.
>As king, she had to kill her true self. Her knights were all either stupid, crazy, or both. She had to eat Gawain's cooking. Her people were impossible to please. She had to eat Gawain's cooking. She had to deal with Merlin being Merlin. She had to quash a coup headed by her sondaughter born from her sister raping her. She had to eat Gawain's cooking. Then she got summoned in the Fourth Heaven's Feel. Kiritsugu was a dick. She had to deal with Iskander's bullying. She had to deal with Gilgamesh's Gilgameshing. She had to deal with Gilles' crazy. Kiritsugu was a dick.
>So then she get summoned by this Japanese ginger manlet. He's kind to her. He cooks her delicious, warm meals. He loves her unconditionally. He understands her. No conspiracies. No Gawain's cooking. No crazy sister. No crazy sondaughter. No Gawain's cooking. No coups. No Kiritsugu. No Iskander. Some Gilgamesh, but that's not until the end. Overall, those two weeks were paradise for her. And at the center of it all was this Japanese ginger manlet.

>>45727842
>>45727855
Fate is just a rehash of the Arcueid route, and UBW is juvenile shounen trash.
HF is the story Nasu wanted to tell with FSN.

>what do Sakura's servants Medusa and Angra Mainyu have in common? Being innocents who were demonized and wrongly persecuted by the ones around them
>Say goodbye to your servant, symbolic of letting go to Otaku trends and becoming a real adult
>accept boring world, move on and become a salary man so you can be happy
>get nympho wife so you can improve Japanese birthrate
>Stop being a filthy otaku that uses media for escapism
>it's time for you to grow up, get a job and then a big titty wife and stop with all this escapism UBW nonsense
>just get a big titty gf and get a job. it's that easy
>HF final ending where literally the theme of the story actually comes together, about how the grail war was mistaken from the start and they needed to just let go of it, with Ilya tying together her character arc from the entire game about also putting her hatred aside and making peace with her family, when the other ending doesn't address shit and leaves you on a shitty note
>Get a job, find a gf. Things will eventually start falling into place and you'll start loving life again
>forgive your abusers
>magically erase your trauma and mistakes
>get a free big tiddy groomer gf
>become salaryman

Nasu was telling the readers to be a farmer or a salaryman and stop doing escapism.

Shirou wasn't stuck being a salaryman trapped into a boring and repetitive narrative. He's actually leaving the ideals behind and choosing to do whatever he wants with his life.

>>45727872
Shirou is too damaged to do whatever he wants because there is no "he" in him.
All routes are impositions on his ill-stitched up being. True Shirou has died a long time ago, only a puppet remains, his ideals is what he is.
How symbolic that even his body is eventually replaced by one too.

>>45727872
Now that you mention salarymen, is OPM a roundabout "become a salaryman" story? Saitama was a salaryman in the start, I think.

>>45727872
>Fate is just a rehash of the Arcueid route
Which explains why I like it so much.
>and UBW is juvenile shounen trash
I really hate this mindset for two reasons. For one, Nasu himself fucking loves juvenille shonen trash as he has shown over and over in his writing, pic related. But more importantly, goddamn son you're not some enlightened individual because you like LoGH more than Gundam 0083. People always love to trash lowbrow works but you know what lowbrow shit almost always is? Entertaining. It never aspired for something higher, it just wants to give the audience a good time. It's like when Michael Bay in an interview was basically confronted for most of his movies being childish shit for teenagers and he said sarcastically, "oh no, I made movies for 14 year old boys, what a crime"

>>45727872
In the end it all falls down to soulless capitalism.

>>45727872
T. Anno

>>45727913
Why don't the faries bother Saber during her sleep?

>>45727900
>Indian mythology in fate is DBZ
TO BE FAIR, you're basically forced to do that for it to be accurate because if you actually sit down and read the Mahabharata, the battle scenes genuinely do feel like the 3rd century BC's version of DBZ right down to have literal, numbered powerlevels.
>The lowest tier of Hindu "hero", Rathi can fight 5,000 enemy soldiers and slay them all.
>The next tier up, Ekarathi, can fight 8 of those Rathi at once, while the tier above that, Atirathi can fight 12
>And those Atirathi? A Maharathi can fight 12 of THOSE at once.
>And above that are the Atimaharathi, who can fight 12 MAHARATHI.
>Then, and only then, do you hit the tiers of their actual deities, who can defeat 24 of those Atihamarathi at once.

>>45727913
Why can't my arms be this long dudes

>>45727913
Shirou why are your arms so goddamn long

>>45727920
They're scared of orangutan shirou

>>45727941
understandable, I too am scared of orangutan shirou

>>45727913
Whoda thought back then that in 2024 this guy would be fighting chainsaw man.

>>45727925
Oh also, to make the powerlevels seem even more impressive, they don't just say "A diety can defeat 24 Atihamarathi", they put it as "A diety can simultaneously defeat 331,776 Rathi, or 1,658,880,000 normal soldiers"

>>45727925
>>45727955
What tier are Karna and Arjuna in.

>>45727958
Karna and Arjuna are Upper Maharathi.
These guys came up with fucking fighting game tier lists before the birth of Christ.

>>45725823
So that's why she instantly jumped on Shiki dick...

>>45727913
'Shirou dear!' she exclaimed, 'what long arms you have!'
'The better to embrace you, Saber!'
'Shirou dear, what stick legs you have!'
'The better to stand with you, Saber!'
'Shirou dear, what prompty ears you have!'
'The better to hear the sword clangs with, Saber!'
'Shirou dear, what wide eyes you have!'
'The better to see hell with, Saber!'
'Shirou dear, what insane smile you have!'
'The better to make you happy with!'

>>45727954
>Whoda thought back then that in 2024 this guy would be fighting chainsaw man.
Come again?

>>45727967
Isn't Brahman creator of everything in hindu lore? How is he lower than Shiva?

>>45727993
Brahmin is the concept of the universe itself.
Shiva and Kali have the power to destroy all existence in the universe. By dancing.

>>45727993
>>45727996
Brahman is existence
Brahma is the poo version of Zeus who gets powercrept into oblivion because the side characters got more popular than him

>>45727981
The waver spin off has him fighting a kamen rider who use chainsaw strapped to his arms.

>>45711680

>>>>/a/261499247

AHAHAHAHA

>>45728777
Wew, it still is up?

>>45728777
>canon schizo

>>45727690
Too bad Nasu basically undid these bittersweet endings with KT and Melty blood because, he's a coward.

>>45727690
Why are there bots posting TM old posts?
You see the same shit on /a/ with the canon schizo.

>>45727278
>Some Japanese works are simply too homo.
How is any of that related to Fate?

>>45731367
Fucking in the Tea Room.

What were Tsukihime waifu wars like?

>>45731774
Aoko > the other ones.

>>45731774
The Tsukihime fanbase has always been more cool and collected than Fatefags, but basically, Ciel was the universal punching bag, and there may have been some slight animosity between Akihafags and Kohakufags at times, but other than that, it was mainly peaceful coexistence.

>>45730229
Don't forget he also backtracked from Fate's ending with Realta Nua. He can't commit because his fanbase get's butthurt

>>45732294
At least that I get. As much as it's a beautiful, perfect little ending...it kinda makes writing sequels hard.

>>45733451
that is one huge gorgeous leotarded bunny magician butt

>>45733618
That ass is great but it's not huge at all!

>>45733677
BIG
AOKO
BUTT

>>45732942
as someone in the middle of FSN HF
how do i get whatever this is

>>45733755
why is there a bottle of sparkling wine on the floor if they are minors in school and they're superstrict about this stuff culturally?

>>45734388
Getting her white girl wasted was the only way she'd really agree to wear that

>>45734388
Fake non-alcoholic champagne for kids exists.

>>45711680
SEEEEEEEEEEEEEEX

>>45734388
Miss Blue is showing the kids how to drink responsibly.

Is Arcueid affected by vampiric urges when she is in her home base in the planet's Inner Sea? It seems that only incorporeal souls can exist in the Reverse Side of the world and according to this bit her body disperses when she comes back to the Inner Sea so she shouldn't be affected by vampiric urges if she is just an incorporeal soul?

>Being an incarnated Elemental, she is able to materialise at her target after a one way trip from the Inner Sea of the Planet. When returning to it, her body will be dispersed.

Archer sex. . .

>>45736578
Of all the fate men to choose from, why him?

>>45736670
Tall, dark and handsome? Shirou the manlet somehow grows up to be a 6'2'' chad

>>45736169
Nice place, I love the Inner Sea

>>45731774
Don't know
Miyako >>>>>>>>

>>45711680
New thread:
>>45737132
>>45737132
>>45737132

>>45736169
Vampirism is the transformation of the soul/existence.

>>45726379
It's pretty nice when done smoothly. I really, really like how Tsukihime's manga had both SHIKI and Roa designs.

>Miss Blue
>red hair

>>45734342
Complete all the bloody route as well as ends