/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>4566568
Thanks.
Seems like there was one more picture like this.

>>4566578
Here's a tip - Never take anything Suigin says or posts seriously.

That's not the picture you want.

>>4566587
I think you are a cool person

>>4566540

Some of these are pretty weak when taken out of context

>>4566568
lol

bump

Fuck yeah, Big O. I should rewatch that.

>>4566568
>1.52 MB
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>>4566568
This is actually funny. I'm surprised.

>>4566540
I hate it when fansubs get translations wrong and then the entire english-speaking community parrots those incorrect translations.

>>4566568

Winner, winner, chicken dinner

>>4566707
What's translated wrong in that picture?

>>4566735
Simon's speech. In the final episode, he says "My drill is the drill that will create the heavens", not pierce them. The dub got this right, but BSS's subs didn't.

>>4566744
And they even keep the wrong ones in the movie sub -_-

>>4566762

Newer ver

>>4566772
Doesn't Xavier have any better lines? He must, that one is pretty bad.

>>4566772
Thank you. Though not necessarily new, just another version.

>>4566772
Putting Osaka Bancho in was the best idea ever

>>4566772
I thought you'd take the "Let me hear your screams" Bernkastel quote.

Takano Miyo and Osaka Bancho's quotes are the best (only good!?) quotes.

>>4566788

>Thank you. Though not necessarily new, just another version.

Except that it was made after, therefore it must be the newer.

>>4566772
didnt that too get updated or was it ever posted. I remember there was talking about updating it a bit just like the protagonist version. But were those updates ever posted?

>>4566820
The subtraction of quotes says otherwise.

>>4566772
Half of these quotes are weak man.

>>4566835

They were deemed unnecessary.

>>4566835
because it gets updated rather than more quotes added. Its just stupid to have too many quotes, so bad ones get replaced with better ones. And every now and then there are these threads where we discuss what should be changed.

>>4566772
still has one too many type-moon character in it in my opinion, should try to find one from somewhere else.

>>4566568
Best Arc quote ever.

>>4566772
I don't remember this Bernkastel's quote. Is it from episode 6?

>>4566891

EP1, actually.

Execute her in the character profiles.

>>4566540
these are lame.

I love you, Suigin

>>4566540

>Kuririn

Dropped

>>4566772
Beato was never a villain.

I'll watch this thread just in case. It's been a while since the last update, partially because we didn't have any decent threads on this. Well, I'm always ready to work, so feel free to discuss it.

>>4567663
Once again:
Kikokugai villain on the villain chart.

>>4567690
Yeah, he goes in Ryoko's place. Same with Saya on the heroes chart, if someone actually needs an update for that one.

>>4567663
Did the hero chart ever get updated beyond the first draft?

>>4567797
No, not yet. At the very least, I need some cool pictures of Shiro and, well, more quotes. There's enough stuff to work with, but not enough stuff for the final version.

And yeah, this Kageaki is so going to the roster.

>>4567889
So far that hero roster had Romeo, Shirou, Shiki, Gii, Kagaeki, Kou, Battler, Saya right? and Kenichi was going to get added atleast, were you considering anyone else and do they have any quotes? I have bit of time now so might look something up, altough I dont nearly have everything installed.

>>4568032
The heroes I was considering were Taoluo, Reimu, Marisa (if they fit), Zwei, maybe Rance and Morita. The archive has the quotes for some of them, too.

The Japanese have no idea how to create interesting and believable protagonists and antagonists.

>>4568100
Still in support of adding Serika to Hero roster, he'd fit extremely well there and he's one of more interesting protagonists/heros around.

>>4568205
I just finished downloading Zero, soon I'll see if I'll be adding my voice of support for this.

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>>4568220
well it's still sometime away till you reach chapters 3 and onwards, as Serika is your typical cliched hero on early chapters, after fate starts to fuck with him, its after that he starts to get more interesting character.

>>4568124
Why are you even here?

Wallachia -> Norose
Ryoko -> Saya
Gilgamesh -> Liu
Doing things cause I am bored, yay for /jp/

There were way too many TM characters, and with wallachia's biggest role played in the spin-off that is MB and not having much of a character (post psuedo-immortality gain) I figured he might as well go as he is in my opinion one of the weaker characters.
So I replaced him with Norose. And why was he removed? There were like 5 TM characters and you removed a good character from popular title? While some may bitch about Chaos;Head I don't think he should have been removed for that reason.
With Wallachia gone there were 2 f/sn characters, so I figured one of those should go first as they are even from the same VN. While I do like Gil some and I actually liked his old qoute, that qoute wasn't really fit as a "villain's qoute" and I also feel that his role as a "villain" in f/sn was rather weak.
His alignment is Chaotic Good D&D terms, and most of the time he is a rather sensible guy with a few hang ups, I mean he does play hero on occasions and most of the time he works behind the shadows and only does things when the story's other villains are absent.
Kotomine is a true villain throughout the whole thing, and with the role he plays I felt that he had the strongest antagonist and villain points.
And while this is a list of villains and not antagonists (there is areally huge differance), one still had to go and Kotomine is Kotomine and I figured he should stay, so Gil got to go.
Personally I feel like Roa would be the staple villain of Tsukihime, and Nrvnsqr's role was just too small even though he may be a great villain, either way I didn't feel it neccessary to change it.
Well, in the end replaced Gilgamesh with Liu, that works, does it not?

>>4568310
Now, if you people want someone from Saya no Uta at all in these lists, it should be either Sya or Fuminori himself, in this list. As stated above, this is a list of villains, not antagonists, while Ryoko may have been a bit crazy I wouldn't call her a villain, and either case in what way were Sya and Fuminori heroes? No matter how you look at it you can't get them to be heroes, however depending on your arguments you could argue for them to be villains, and yes villains can be protagonists.
So I changed Ryoko for Saya herself.

I was thinking of replacing Remilia with someone so that there wouldn't be 2 touhous on the list, but I don't really care that much actually.

I wonder why such ''epic'' speeches make me laugh so much. Especially with those silly faces (mainly referring to that anime one).

>>4568316
In that case, why don't we have someone make an epic speech from side characters thread?
We have the antagonists and the villains, why not the side characters?

>>4568310

>There were way too many TM characters, and with wallachia's biggest role played in the spin-off that is MB and not having much of a character (post psuedo-immortality gain) I figured he might as well go as he is in my opinion one of the weaker characters.

I don't find that to be very fair. While he might not be a deep and complex character, he's still a very compelling villain with a manic personality.

>>4568359
Are you implying that Ryoko or Kouji are side characters?
They both play the parts of both antagonists and protagonists.
Among the things they are, side characters is not one of them.

>>4568310
For Liu, it's "unwanted, empty of joy."

Fuck Yeah found it, I remember we were once discussing of adding gregory to list, but he didnt have quote so, yeah found his fuck speech. Now if someone would translate it better than I as I have absolutely no confidence in my translation abilities. Heres the lines:
「いい顔だ……実にいい……いいぞぉ……。銃を撃つのは平気でも、撃たれ
た者がこうするのは見るに耐えないというわけか……？」
「これはファックだ。これこそファックだ。わかるかね……」
「君が抉えぐった穴を犯すことで私と君は精神的にファックしているのだ…
…」
「君も私に、穴を開けてくれるか……。いいとも、たくさん追加してくれた
まえ！」
「欲するならば、誰の愛でも受け止める。それが我ら聖職者の務めなり」

>>4568310
Thats pretty good If I had to say.

>>4568316
yeah agree, no 2 touhous in list, but I'd rather kick Yuka away.

>>4568359
that would be good, side characters always seem to have better lines and they usually dont have clear place in these list so their own list would be great.

>>4568400
My mistake.

>>4568310
Whoah, someone actually gets shit done in my place.

Basically, Norose was removed because his spot was taken by Houzuki, and they're really damn similar to each other. In the end, we considered Houzuki to be a better villain that Norose, so yeah.

I honestly don't like the idea of having any Saya chars in these rosters now. At the time they were added, Saya was basically the best Nitroplus title available to /jp/, but now, with Kikokugai and even more good stuff on the horizon, there's no need for such ambiguous characters on the list. There will always be people who think that Saya or Fuminori or Ryoko are in the wrong roster, so it's much easier to remove them altogether. They're awesome, too awesome for these rosters.

And damn, I don't think the names should be above the pictures at all. Some anon got a nice idea of putting the names right below the pictures, and I think it would look pretty damn cool.

Overall, nice job, I guess. But of course, my opinion is not enough to make these changes final.

Oh, and that Saya picture would be nice to have.

>>4568485
Well, yeah I knew that there always would be some who wouldn't like the idea of having her there, but the same could be said about the oposite I belive.
In the end I added her as I believe one could call SnU to be one of /jp/'s stronger titles, and well, not including it could get fans to whine (and then I wanted to get rid of Ryoko. crazy antagonist != villain. Had she actually succeeded one could consider her a hero of sorts, but yeah I know of the problem but even so.)

And yeah I could see why Houzuki was added but I don't think Norose should have gone of the list.

But was it like this youmeant with the names? Yeah that's actually good I would say.

>>4568485
And you wanted the picture, right? might as well post it.

>>4568755
Saya's quote is so sweet

>>4568765
Thanks.

>>4568755
Yeah, that looks pretty sweet.
I see your point about Saya, and I guess she can stay for now, at least until someone else would fit her spot better. Oh, and her quote lacks an ellipsis.
I'd switch Gore and Yuka's pic with this one >>4568485 .

JESUS JESUS JESUS

>>4568755
That actualy starts looking pretty good. Altough I have problems with Remilias, Yuakas and Xaviers quotes. They just seem lame compared to others somewhat. Also it now has 4 nitro+ characters so no more from them should be put there or considered.

>>4568863
He competes with Gregory for a spot, and Gregory has more chances to get in.

Oh yeah, and where the hell are my Phantom quotes? Scythe Master is more than worthy to get in.

>>4568918
I tried finding one, but I'd be damned if I can find his confrontation scenes with the passwords (I finished it ages ago). Gave up after some hours.
Would be nice if someone who's playing would just dot a memorable quote or two down while progressing.

>>4569360
I think it's also possible to get some of his quotes from the anime. I hear it's good, so why not take the quotes from there?

Aslo if adding Scythe Master, then replace one of the other nitro+ characters in roster as having 5 nitro+ characters is just like having 5 type-moon characters, altough it might be acceptable in case of nitro+ games as they are more diverse.

>>4569588
Yeah, I wouldn't say that it is the same.
Except SnU and Kikokugai the works are also written by different writers, and lets not forget that Chaos;Head wasn't even developed by Nitro+, they only published it.

>>4568918
So are you going to do update on hero roster and post it or are you going to wait still more?

I hate reading that Xavier quote, NOW

>>4570289
Agreed. Someone needs to get a better quote for him. Now.

>>4568310
>Norose
>good character
You have to be fucking joking. He's easily the most generic villain there (though Liu comes pretty close as well).

>>4570307
Just replayed the final turn on each of the routes that have him, and couldn't find a good quote.

Finding something better would require a full playthrough, which I'm not up to, but someone else may be.