/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Kenka wa yamete, etc.

slut

Any good downloads of AT1 and AT2 that aren't fakes?

>>4566100
buy them, don't be a fag

>New AT thread
Haven't you been told to stop spamming it already?

Let's start this thread with some Sublimation

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmA5nCFq3kg

>>4566104

I'd like to but I'd rather play a bugless AT2. Unless it's possible to buy the European version on Amazon.

And before someone asks again for the lossless albums:

AT - all: http://www.hongfire.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=116396&d=1240137696
AT2 - all: http://www.hongfire.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=108204&d=1232984269
AT3 - ost: http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=112183

I'm not sure if the AT3 hymmnos albums are available in lossless yet but you can get the normal MP3 rip from TT. Thanks to Yuyucow in a previous thread for digging up the links.

Since the Final Fantasy thread was deleted, this thread must also be against the rules and thus I have reported it.

>>4566118
>Spamming it
>People keeping it to one thread that lasts for days until it dies

Yeah. No.

>>4566118
So a single thread is considered spam now? Oh you card

And you must be incredibly naive to think that telling someone to do something in this board actually yields results.

>>4566118

Spamming? A single thread when the previous one reaches its bump limit after 5 days is spam now? Oh I'm sorry. Having a single thread related to /jp/ where decent music is posted and some reasonable discussion is being had must be wrong. I'll make sure my next AT thread is full of green text and a Dawson image.

>>4566120

Honestly you're better off emulating AT1/2. The undub makes it a lot better, in my opinion. You're also looking to pay quite a hefty amount of money to get a copy of AT1/2 these days too, I believe.

>>4566122
Delicious lossless upgrades.

>>4566126
>>4566143
>>4566158

the joke
your head

>>4566120

AT2 has been released in Europe so it should be quite possible to get if from Amazon. You can always buy the game and play the undub.

I'd say that Singing Hill ~Harmonics Frelia~ is way too underrated song. Never see people mentioning it much, but for me it's been stuck in my head for sometime now.

>>4566122
http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=111040
AT3 Hymmnos in flac with all the appropriate scans.

Got the link from here:
http://www.hongfire.com/forum/showthread.php?t=140902

>>4566170

Or maybe your 'joke' simply failed and you came across as a generic troll that seems to appear in these threads.

>>4566168

It's worth the painfully slow download speed.

>>4566119

I love how nice this sounds despite what the true purpose behind it is.

>>4566219

Thanks, I'll add that for the next time.

No European AT2 on Amazon. Oh well.

Is there an iso of US version AT2 but with the patch to fix the bugs? Or is UK version the exact same thing? I kinda want the English VA, if only because I can notice the way they deliver their lines and can be funnier because of that.

>>4566254

The PAL release has the bug fixes already implemented so you can grab that if you really don't want the undub version.

>>4566254
It's not that hard to find PAL version of AT2 tough if you want physical copy of it, just look some other european stores other than amazon, as it was released last summer here meaning its still reletively new. But good luck finding PAL AT1 tough, took me eons to find it and with ridicilious price.

>>4566302

Well that's okay, I think NA version of AT1 is fine, it's only the NA version of AT2 that is buggerific hence me wanting to find PAL version.

And wow, you guys just got it? How old IS AT2 anyway, I remember seeing it in Gamestop years ago.

After looking around the usual sites I noticed that Play.com has AT2 for £13 and AT1 for £25, with free delivery.

I still think Gust should re-release the first two games on PS3 just like the God of War devs did with their series. But is the series popular enough for Gust to do that?

>>4566344
Europe pretty much gets almost always shafted when it comes to game releases, especialy when it comes to jrpgs. we get everything ~half to 2 years later than america. good thing that PS3 is region free now as I'm not that big in modding.

>>4566344

We generally get fucked over in regards to RPGs. We missed a lot of games such as quite a few ones from the Tales of series and it's not unusual to get a game a year or two late such as Tales of Vesperia which was released a year and a half after the American release with no new content, shit sucks.

>>4566424
http://artonelico.isisview.org/wiki/index.php/Settei_book_2_translation/History_section#Background_S
tory:_.5B3038_AD.2C_Unspoken_Words.5D

http://artonelico.isisview.org/wiki/index.php/Settei_book_2_translation/History_section#Background_S
tory:_.5BEternal_Guardian.5D

;__;

>>4567044

That wiki page has a lot of reading, I guess I'll be busy tonight.

How many different iterations of COSMOFLIPS are there?

>>4567656

How do you mean?

The anthologies are a gold mine.

Ar Tonelico does not deserve its own thread. Make it a general jRPG thread.or something.

>>4568260

It's basically an eroge with awesome music minus shitty sex scenes. Generic JRPG's aren't anywhere near the same in my opinion. Feel free to make a general JRPG thread but it'll most likely get deleted like the previous FFXIII thread earlier this morning.

where Cocona's install port?

>>4568530
Doesn't Croix give Cocona a Diquility at some point during AT2?

>>4569013
No, I think it was Clouche.

>>4569013
>>4569319
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm1347742

>>4568520
Oh, right. In the new game you can get the heroines to take their clothes off.

...Can you do that to Cocona?

What's appealing about the AT games? Why are they worth playing instead of, say, another eroge?

>>4569983
The galge aspect of the game is rather swallow, albeit entertaining. If you enjoy RGPs and galges, you won't be disappointed. Also, the backstory is plentiful and well thought.

>>4569983
A very expanded, detailed and unique world setting too.
And kickass music overall.

>>4569941

The best you'll get is a bikini in AT3, I think.

You know, if you kids are going to complain about certain JRPG being /v/, why not AT since it is COMPLETELY a JRPG?

Fucking hypocrites.

>>4570024
Cause of much more expansive galge/VN mechanics compared to other normal JRPGs(even if shallow compared to a normal VN).

>>4570024

Because every JRPG shits sexual innuendo out its ass while having certain well known Japanese singers performing vocals, right? Right? Hurr, Otaku Culture etc.

>>4570037
It's a JRPG by heart and nowhere near an actual galge/VN.

>>4570056
Of course it's a JRPG. Nobbody denied that.
The issue is the expanded dating/VN mechanics present. Which makes it more crossboard material, compared to , dunno, 'Golden Sun'.

Most importantly, it's accepted here because a large portion of our user base plays it and wants to actively discuss it.

>>4570015
The best games, in my opinion, have a good backstory that people can theorize about. It makes it that more interesting.

Floating islands above an endless sea are my fetish, too. I creamed my pants when I heard about AT, to say the least. Even more when I discovered the VN stuff.

>>4570071

Precisely. It's nice having it discussed here as most /jp/ users are like minded compared to making a similar thread on /v/ where it's highly likely to die fast due to how fast /v/ moves or it'll end up as another shitty thread full of >greentext and reaction images. Which sadly isn't that unusual in /jp/ when certain tripfags are around but they at least keep to their own threads most of the time.

>>4570099
I imagine how you felt starting Ys II.

Is there a patch for the second one to make it not bad? I wouldn't mind getting into the games.

>>4570071
It's always the same small group of people in these threads.

Your threads are no different that the Idolfans and your clique is no different from the diaper fetishists.

And how many jrpgs have routes based on heroines? And how many games have characters whose hobbies are makin VNs and then let player to play them, just to mock the VN like aspects of game? And then there are those pseudo-h-scenes.

>>4570117
There's a fan-retranslation in progress that'll fix a shitload of stuff, but for now there's an Undub that puts all the japanese voices back in and removes the english ones. Look around on google for it.

>>4570117

Get the PAL version if you want the bug fixes that don't break the game but want to keep the dubbing, which removes a lot of the original voicing while making you sit through terrible voice acting. Or get the undub version which allows you to play with Japanese audio and English subtitles where it'll be mostly fully voiced.

>>4570133
>mostly fully voiced.
Is this because it's the undub or is the original game just not fully voiced? Also, is there no undub for the PAL version?

>>4570123
SaGa series.

>>4570148

The original Japanese version was mostly fully voiced. The dubbed version cut out quite a lot of it and thus left you without any voices for quite a bit of it. There's a patch for the undub version that fixes the game breaking bug at the end, assuming the one you download doesn't already have it.

>>4570167
Do I have to play 1 before 2, or can I just jump into 2? Should I play on an emulator or PS2?

>>4570202
2 can be played without playing 1, but you will miss some references here and there, bothing major tough. Personaly I played 2 and later got my hands on 1, so after finishing 2 I played 1. but do how you feel.

>>4570202

You don't have to since they use different characters and such but it's still nice to know what the fuck is going on in regards to the story. You'll also be missing out on some nice music in AT1.

As for the emulator vs PS2 question it's really your own preference. Emulator is a lot nicer to use since you can get the undub version and such but you need a relatively decent computer to run a PS2 emulator at 60FPS. The games may also be quite expensive to obtain in some places but it's your own choice, really.

>>4570162
You have routes for the characters, as in separate quests.
Different story.
And Saga frontier was incomplete shit.

>>4570202
If you have a modded PS2, I'd suggest you play them there(with the proper versions downloaded).

Personally I imported all three of them, along with a Japanese PS3 so I could play them.

Upside: you'll be able to get your games as soon as they're out in Japan, including those that won't get translated, and never worry about bad dubs, bugs and whatnot.
Downside: gotta learn Japanese. FUCK.

>>4570386
>Upside: Force yourself to learn Japanese. In no time you'll be reading raw eroge.
Fix'd

>>4570386
>along with a Japanese PS3 so I could play them.
Why ? PS3s are region free.

Just going by the retranslation site's examples of the translation in AR2, I'll probably just try playing the game in Japanese.

>>4570431
It's not that bad most of the game is dubbed anyways so you can corret the localization horrors by hearing the japanese dialogues.

>>4570430
It doesn't play Japanese PS2 or PS1 games though (if you have a PS2 back compat PS3).
>>4570443
Sure, but there is probably a lot of stuff that isn't dubbed, like item descriptions for example.

>>4570133
>>4570167
etc.

This is why I think Gust ought to re-release them, if only so NISA could localize them, fix the bugs and have both English and Japanese audio on blu-ray without needing to remove anything. Of course the voice actors would have to be called back for the segments that weren't voiced in the PS2 version, so I dunno if they'd feel like doing that.

Mm, this is the third time I said "Put AT1+2 on PS3 Gust!" I oughta quit that.

>>4570430
Like the other dude said, PS2 games are still region-locked. With my Japanese PS3 I can play all PS3 games and all Japanese PS2 games using only one console.

I can also do it on a 1920 screen (looks awful with a PS2), and make virtual memory cards for PS2 games for free on the PS3's HD.

Pretty damn good investment, though apparently they don't make PS3s with BC anymore... so unless you got an old one you better hope that Sony finally decides to release the software-based BC that they patented in a future upgrade.

>>4570679
PS3 is too weak for software bc, you'll never see that happening.

>>4570766
Oh... I thought the 80 gig model had software-only BC.

Ah well.

>>4574503

Good evening, ZUN.

>>4574503

Milk did that body real good.

>>4577622

Indeed.

Good night /jp/.

>>4568166
Oh, which one is that from?

>>4566074
>>4566483
>>4570019
>>4570133
>>4578972

COCONAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Ugh. AT3 better get over here to the states before I lose my mind from all these threads and I give in and import it. My moonrunes aren't quite good enough for it yet, I don't think, but I want to play this so badly that I'd be willing to tough it out with a dictionary in hand.

If I am playing the undub, do I still have to choose the Japanese option in the options menu? Or is the English just replaced with Japanese so I should leave it on English?

>>4579422
Seconded, I don't think I've read that yet.

>>4580558
Yeah, you have to choose Japanese in the options.

>>4580604
Please post more Mir or COCONAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAa

Does mir appear in 3?

OTHERWISE NO BUY

Is this supposed to be the main guy? Why does he look like such a fag?

>>4580965
not enough hair spikes for you? maybe you should go back to reading your shounen shit instead

>>4580982
No. He just looks really... weak.

>>4580982

Overreaction much?

Besides, he looks like a trap. At least, I thought it was a woman with all the screepcaps I saw until /jp/ told me otherwise.

>>4580965
Your attention is in the wrong place. Concentrate on the little girl.

>>4581050
I wish. Some yuri would be great.

>>4580938
No, but you get an explanation on where did her mind guardian came from and the whole cause behind her Reyatelia obsession.

>>4580965
1296x1062
Sorry, I can't see anything through that blur.

On the other note, are there any other jrpgs on ps1/2 with good waifus and no/minimum UGLY 3D POLYGONS?

Well that was a good sleep.

>>4580965

And yet he has Mir as his waifu whilst you have your right hand, how does this make you feel?

I like the way EXEC_FLIP_FUSIONSPHERE/. is basically a story being sung. It's starting to grow on me, it sounds really nice.

>>4570386
Well, I guess living in a SE East shithole country has its own merits. Every PS2 being sold already modded and capable to play games of any region. Even pirated games cost like $0.5/DVD here.

>>4579431

I was wondering when you'd appear.

>>4582258
COCONAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

So, Aoto has no chance for Cocona end?

>>4582427
She already gave her first time to Croix, and he forcefully broke through Cocona.

>>4582450

Cocona is pure.

>>4582470
COCONAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>4582450
Croix is already travelling to Clustania to clarify the bathoorm incident with Aoto.
You can imagine how it will end, penetration is involved.

>>4582598

>the bathroom incident with Aoto.

Nothing happened. Cocona is pure.

>>4583322
COCONAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

What is Cocona doing on AT3? I just know that Mir sent her there at the end of AT2 so she could stay and suck croix dick

>>4582427
they have good ps2 emulators now?

>>4583960

I played and finished AT2 on a PS2 emulator about a little more than a year ago. The only problems were the slowdowns during 3d map mode, otherwise it worked flawlessly.

>>4579422
Ar Tonelico Anthology vol. 1

>>4583917
In short: shes there to do what mir told her to do, which then causes her to get involved in to the whole mess thats going in that tower and she ends up helping the party.

>>4581755
Nearly all hymmnos are stories.

>>4583960
Get a SVN version of PCSX2 or an old version with the guts-fix.

>>4582470
she already had her something barrier broken in at 2

I just realized, cocona is one of the girls to choose from in AT3 right?
No, I haven't played it because I don't have a ps3.

Didn't her cosmosphere get trashed because she got infected?
How are they going to deal with that little problem?
Or am I forgetting something from the second game that magically fixes it?

>>4584240
altough Cocona is party member, shes vanguard and not diveable. Her ending is just like in AT2, if you dont choose anyone of the 3 main heroines you get her ending.

>>4584265
I see.

game ends, final boss took a bath, fell asleep and drowned

>>4584240
When the Infel Pira converted into Metafalica, all IPDs had their boundary gates closed off, according to Infel in the Tokosphere. This should probably have cured her.

>>4584085

>Nearly all hymmnos are stories.

Perhaps, but they all use lyrics as if it's just a standard song as if they're talking to each other or just singing normally. EXEC_FLIP_FUSIONSPHERE/. is actually just telling a story in song form, which is kind of different.

Super Slut Sisters 2

Why is Tilia the best Reyvateil from any of the games?

>>4584487
Dat ass, and a perfect DFC that would make a washboard jealous.

>>4584325
Also, with the formatiing of Infel Phira, the IPD disease is gone.

>>4584487

You have fine taste, good sir.

http://asmodean.reverse.net/pages/ar2bugfix.html

This should be the patch right?

>>4584661

Seems like it.

>>4584661
Isn't the undub pre-patched? Just get that.

Thank you, /jp/. I now have EXEC_CHRONICLE_KEY/. stuck in my head. Hell, I was humming it while I was eating out with some friends a few hours ago. Not only that, but whenever I tried to forget or "change" the song, my brain would immediately play EXEC_PAJA/.#Misya extracting or the brain damaging EXEC_EP=NOVA/.

>>4585135

It is? good.

>>4585182
The next step is to memorize the lyrics of EXEC_CHRONICLE_KEY/..

>>4585225
I'm humming it. It's only a matter of time. It's only a matter of time...

>>4585182

I'm generally humming EXEC_CHRONICLE_KEY/., METHOD_METAFALICA/., EXEC_HARMONIUS/. or EXEC_SPHILIA/. at any given time. It's slowly getting worse though as EXEC_COSMOFLIPS/. and EXEC_REBIRTHIA=PROTOCOL/. are getting stuck in my head too. I really should stop listening to the Hymmnos albums constantly.

>>4585182
>>4585270
EXEC_CHRONICLE_KEY is probably the easiest to get stuck in the head. It has a simple tune at the beginning that's easy to remember.

What are the settings people use for PCSX2 for this game? The sprites look a bit off to me.

>>4585410
I use GXDX9, Shader 3.0, native res (any higher and lines appear in movies and boxes appear around character sprites and faces, also 3D worldmap goes wacky at the bottom), grey-check NLoop Hack, check texture filtering (full-check; looks like shit without it), check Logarithmic-Z, wait vsync, and alpha correction.

Everything looks fine except for the 3D world menu, which can be weird at times. Also, the 2D menu backgrounds are cut off and wrap around from one side to the other, but nothing fixes that apparently.

What's with AT 1? Does that also suffer from horrible translation?

>>4585500

This is what I used when I cleared AT 2 about one and a half year ago. Still works

>>4585565
>>4585500
Thanks bros.

In-game screenshot, the only "problems" I had were slight slowdown on the 3d world map/area select and that there were these odd black edges around the character sprites when walking around. But that's all.

I've been using an old precompiled pcsx2 exe with gustfix on it, but afaik it should already be integrated into the new version SVN versions by standard.

>>4585547
It's not perfect if you're a hardcore Otaku, but it's adequate, they didn't mess up anything except names, and it has the full Japanese voicing.

also, what gustfix does:

See, background no longer cut off/broken on this one.

>>4585623
>>4585633
LINKS.
NOW.

Please.

Once again I wonder why Jonesy could not get this working:

http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/jp/thread/S4578482#p4578547

>>4586109
Speak of the Devil and he appears.
It works, after a fashion, but the graphics are horrible and I don't hear any voices. Add that to the clunky map interface and the lame battles (mash buttons, then time for defense), Ar Tonelico 2, not so good game-wise. They should have just cut out everything but the dialogue scenes.

>>4586271
>98% CPU
Maybe you just need a better computer Jones.

>>4580965
I've been wondering what specs you guys have to be able to run games on the PS2 emulator, that or what configs are you guys using on the plugins?

It's just that I've a friend with a Q9550, a XFX 790i motherboard, a 9800GTX+ and 2GB DDR3@1333 and he could barely hit 30fps with the latest plugins on stuff like Captain Tsubasa, Fate/unlimited codes and Valkyrie Profile 2.

>>4586335
Quad core, 3.21 GHz, bro.
It's the glitchy textures in some of the maps that eat CPU like mad. At the current, crappy display settings, it can still maintain a smooth 60fps though.

>>4586349
I've got a Phenom II X2 550, overclocked to 3.6GHz, a 1GB 9800GT, and 3GB of RAM.

This is normal CPU usage. (Normal: not on a town map or the world map)

>>4586377
On the world map it's only using about <30%, though I'm not really any where yet in the game so maybe I don't know what you're referring to.

Just got around to download and try the latest alpha release.

Has gustfix integrated in it, backgrounds appear fine.
Memcards has been fixed, can save / load without having to use savestates :3 !
They've fixed the black edges with sprites now, sprites display fine.
3d world map has no longer slowdown, but some parts are rendered oddly sometimes.

Oh and my PC is like, intel dualcore overclocked to 3.2ghz, 2GB ram, HD4850. Everything except for the video card is like over 3 years old now.

too bad that playing anything except growlanser is fucking impossible on my 1.90 ghz laptop

>>4586403
>:3
For a fleeting moment I thought that you'd be a decent attention whore.

>>4586400
I'm not using any speedhacks or anything, since my computer can handle it and they deteriorate graphics quality.
Probably, enabling them would drop CPU usage drastically, but I don't have to since my framerate never drops below 60.

>>4586271
>>I don't hear any voices

Playing the undub? If so then choose Japanese voice in the options.

>He doesn't own a PS2!

>>4586442
He's a poor college student who lives on his own and doesn't even have a TV to use with a PS2.
Donate yours, and your PS2, if you care.

>>4586436
I'm not using speedhacks either.
>>4586442
I have a PS2, but I'd rather emulate it.

I am not using and speed hacks either.

All sounds, etc plays perfectly for me.

I'm slightly bothered by the "tearing" I see on the sprites, but it's just some edge filter thing I've forgotten to untoggle somewhere I'm sure.

>>4586442

You think you're so big ever since you got those 10,000 brochievements in "Assassin Creed 2"!

>>4586442
>HE NEVER BEAT MEGA MAN 9

>>4586502
Best costume.

Anyone care to share a link to the gust fix?

oh I found the tearing problem

http://code.google.com/p/pcsx2/issues/detail?id=428&can=1&q=tonelico&colspec=ID%20Status
%20Priority%20Component%20Plugin%20Owner%20Summary

>known issue
that's nice
>noone's working on it
that's not very nice

gustfix is already integrated into the latest clients.

>>4586914
I have 0.9.6 and the problem still exists. Should I get the public beta?

>>4587115

I'm talking about the SVN here.

Gustfix was integrated at r1436. The latest one is r2680 which is to be found at -> http://www.emucr.com/2010/03/pcsx2-svn-r2680.html

It's past bedtime for me, but either ways: there's nothing wrong with the emulator. If you have problems it's either wrong plugins, wrong config or too weak PC.

>>4582427
>Weight: 30

Damn she's light.

>>4584344

This is like the only picture of Tilia I've seen where she isn't *completely* flat. I like her better like this.

>>4587196
Much appreciated. Thanks!

>>4587196

Do you need to download the plugins pack there to get AT1/2 working?

Delicious Mir.

>>4588271

She is no mir girl.

>>4588390
I've got your coat right here, Anonymous.

At any rate, I'm playing through AT2 right now. Just seeing Sasha pains me. She's such a good girl... ;_; I just want to take her home and take of her but then I realize that even if I tried, she'd somehow turn that around and start taking care of me. ;_;

>>4587387

I think it's her costume, really. Any time I see her without the costume she appears to have to have small breasts on par with Finnel instead of a dead flat chest.

How exactly do you fix the black boxes/lines on some sprites in dialogue? Regardless of what I try with the graphic settings they don't go away

>>dead flat chest

So how flat is too flat?

>>4590812
>too flat

No such thing

Also, the rendering thingie:

old gs plugin

new gs plugin (sprite edges looks good, but theres tearing now)

new gs plugin without filtering (filtering is what smooths out the stuff, however it's also what causes the tearing)

>>4590812

Well it has it's limits. Don't get me wrong, I love DFC and detest tumours but when there's absolutely nothing there to the point where a washboard would be jealous I'm kind of put off. Tilia is still delicious though, regardless.

I can't be the only one disturbed and disgusted by Tilia's absolute lack of breasts.

>>4591914
Sounds like you're a little too well adjusted for /jp/

>>4591914

You're a faggot.

>>4591914

"I'm not disturbed and disgusted," but she does seem flatter than the usual DFC, at least in most of the in-game screenshots I saw (she looks better in >>4584344 where there's actually some small hills there).

Even flat girls like Taiga or Konata have SOME boobage in there, small as they are.

is there a way to increase the I.P.D exp better than fighting? I'm ~lv63 now and they get about 1-2 exp every fight

>>4592800

fight while doing shit that they approve of. there's a reason their description is "I joined xxx fanclub just to xxxx"

>>4593022
Half of the members seem to have joined to sexually harass Cloche.

And that's why ATII is the GOTY

>>4593049

>Half of the members seem to have joined to sexually harass Cloche.

I see no problem with this.

In your mind's eye, wordfilter "dive" to "come".

come therapy? does she basically whore herself out?

proxy coming? how do you come inside someone while already coming inside someone?

looks like thread is past bump limit

>>4593884
>He doesn't know the bump limit was raised to 300!

Hmm. A few hours in and I'm not sure how I feel about this game. I enjoy talking to the girls and doing the cosmosphere stuff. But the overtly sexual dialogue is pretty off putting. It sounds very immature and as though it was written with 14 year olds in mind. The translation is also crazy. Sometimes it seems like Croix is an entirely different character in the English text compared to what he is saying in spoken Japanese, which only makes me worry about the stuff that isn't spoken. Hopefully it gets better but I doubt it.

>>4593884

>Posts: 193

Incorrect. And it's 300 now anyway so it's all good.

>>4593868

Jacqli looks disgusted to learn of Luca's dirty habits.

>>4594097
There's a reason fans are doing a retranslation.

>>4594127
I know. But I'm not going to wait who knows how long for those guys.

>>4584067
Thanks bro.

http://rapidshare.com/files/139861843/AT2_Anthology_Comic.zip.html

>>4595078
Have you found the second volume?

>>4595169
http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/jp/thread/4528218#p4564589

Both Vol. 2 and Vol. 3 raws are there (AT2 Anthology).

>>4595169
Not yet! But here are both for AT1.

http://rapidshare.com/files/139856629/AT_Anthology_Comic.zip.html
http://rapidshare.com/files/139859846/AT_Anthology_Comic_2.zip.html

>>4595214
That's the manga adaptation by Aya Megumu. Different thing.

Why are people assuming that Croche is canon ending?

Mir + Cro is the only couple that has a special song for just them two

Mir + Cro will unlock the "Cro is spending too much time with mir when resting" convo between luca and croche

Spiked bath convo between luca and croche is totally lesbian. It's not as lesbian if you stick mir + one of the other together in spiked bath

Oh and there's 2 "you're talking with mir too much" from both of the other girls.

high tier conversations between cro and other girls is meh, high tier convos between cro and mir is pretty much just flirting. Mir pretty much just straightforward says that she wants to live at Cros place with him and that she's willing to change just to suit his tastes

>>4595387
The only thing confirmed is that Croche got BEAAAAAAAAAAAAAMED.
So, no Luca path.
Whether it's Mir, Croche or Cocona, you only have weak superficial arguments like the ones you post.

>>4595443

does it say so anywhere? Because both of the can get beamed depending on your choice earlier.

There's still the fact Mir has more "personal" convos, mir + croix has the heart's speech song, other 2 girls have "you are spending too much time with mir" and "we have no chance croix all is lovey with mir" convos.

>>4595490
...Yes, that's why it is CONFIRMED.
The point of confirming 'Croche got beamed' is to establish Luca did not.

>>4595510

no, WHERE is it CONFIRMED; source?

>>4595516
During AT 3, small Recap during the game.
Kinda like how you confirm Lyner DID do Shuerila's sphere to the end in AT2

>>4595525

oh okay.

>>4595496
Just as planned.ini

>>4595387
>>4595490

The Cocona end of AT3 pretty much confirms the Mir ending wasn't canon, or that they split up quite quickly, as Cocona says she's going back to Metafalss, and would be happy if Aoto went too so she could show him off to her brother and friends.

>>4595538

It's already mentioned in 2 that mir was to busy with other stuff, she sends cocona to one place and goes to another place herself - even if you get mir ending / have song and all, she only says that she'll return or so..

>>4595538
Well, it has been at least 3 years since the end of AT2.
Her Brother being home at that point is not impossible, really.

>>4595545
The point is that Croix goes with Mir in her end and it's going to be a long time before he can come back to Metafalls, so he can't be waiting in Metafalss unless either Mir end didn't happen, or they went their separate ways after a short amount of time.

Although one could argue that the latter could happen quite easily in the Mir end because of the "I don't believe in forever" speech, but everyone knows animu/game couples stay together forever and ever if they get together in the final scenes.

>>4595496
I wonder which heroine Jonesy picked.

>>4595567
In fact sod that, they pretty much agree they won't return to Metafalss as long as they stay together.

>>4595658
The shittiest one obviously

My waifu do not steal

>>4595689
>>4595705
You must provide a link!

>>4595721

Sauce is Eoria Biyori

>>4595743
Thanks.

http://www.mediafire.com/?mmijm3d3mkw

>>4595689
>>4595705
Grade A doujin right there. Too bad it's so short.

Coconas special makes her look a lot older than she's supposed to be.

>>4595831
She looks a lot better with her hair down.

Also, am I the only person who didn't realise why she has her hair down in battle until like 20 hours into the game, or am I just a huge faggot?

>>4595831
COCONAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>4594097

Can you give me some examples of what you're talking about? About how he's different in dub text than spoken Japanese?

whoever did the animation has done a good job

>>4595851
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=939100&topic=49051727

Sorry for Gamefaqs, but that thread gives a good breakdown of the changes.

>>4595851
Ok, for example (from memory):

When Cloche passes out or whatever because she needs the life extending agent given to her.
Leglius:Have you ever administrated a life extending agent before?
Croix(Japanese):いいえ、ありません。 (No, I haven't.)
Croix(In game text):Did it sound like I even knew it existed 2 minutes ago?

RIght after that scene when you meet Annmarie (was that her name)
Croix(Japanese): Hang in there! Did the Sacred Army do this?
(That part is probably somewhat wrong, I don't remember exactly what he said.)
Croix(English):Hey, c'mon! I don't have all day.

>>4595944
Gamefaqs is okay, their community is the problem.

>>4595959
That's NIS America for you.

>>4595966
Their community is only a problem because of the moderators being allowed to do pretty much whatever they want, and the fact it's CNet's bitch.

>dat belly
You have my complete and undivided attention.

>>4596079

What are you lo

>>4595937
>>4595953
>>4595955
>>4595967
>>4595990
>>4596020
>>4596152
COCONAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>4595959
>>4595944

Oh wow. I'm guessing NISA is trying to, uh, add humor to the script by making Croix pop an attitude. This makes me wonder if they've done the same to Disgaea series; actually, it's probably better I don't know, I still found the games pretty funny and I loved the English VA in all three games.

Thanks for the citing, by the way.

>>4596185
Disgaea isn't as bad, but they do like to add a joke in a line where there wasn't one before quite often.

>>4596213

I'm not bothered by that. As long as it's not totally out of character or detracting to the story...

>>4596185
Disgaea is a pretty good localisation. NISA tend to not fuck up series Nippon Ichi actually made too badly, with a few exceptions like the DS version of Rhapsody.

Okay, after reading that gamefaqs link, looks like if AT2 got re-localized somehow and they want to fix the script, they'd have to call back the voice actors and pretty much redo the entire game. I don't think any localization team feels like doing that, only exception I can think of is the Gamecube remake of Metal Gear Solid (all but 2 or 3 English VA returned to voice the entire game again, although the script is a bit different).

>>4596306
Everyone already knows this. NISA didn't even have the money to properly test or proof-read the game, so there's no chance in hell of them ever doing anything like re-localising it.

Which is why there's a fan project.

>>4596306
They're translating it so that it's true to the original japanese game.
I don't think they want the english voices.

>>4596319

Well then, I hope they don't crap up AT3 too much. The script changes I'm sure most people can deal with, but those game-breaking bugs in AT2 were ridiculous. If NISA isn't too confident they could just hand over localization of AT3 to Atlus.

>>4596384
Maybe they won't even bring it over. The games don't exactly sell great over here.

>>4596392
NISA have said repeatedly they're very interested in bringing it over, and are working on it.

Although they're full of shit (See: Disgaea 3 trophies for Europe), so it's still up in the air.

>>4596407

Oh yeah? Well I hope they received enough complaints from AT2 fans that they're more careful this time.

Also, I hope it doesn't get censored.

>>4596435
They're going to give Tilia a full chest.

>>4596435
What is there that would propagate censorship in AT3?

>>4596459
They're going to give Tyria a full chest.

>>4596459
>>4596474
I am looking forward to it.

I'm not sure which image I'm using, but there's this option where I can change the audio to JP AT2. Which I am content with.

Personally I didn't like the english dub much, aside from mirs "meddlesome, tch whatever." Croches totally ridiculous battle sounds were funny tough.

(open my picture with winamp for example)

Cro looks to feminine.

>>4596581
Not really, you're only getting a bit of the Japanese dub. Over half of it was removed to make way for the English dub.

Most of the voices in the English dub aren't THAT bad, it's mostly the script that makes it unbearable.

Although Jakuri's is a massive problem, doesn't really fit her at all. Her Japanese voice fits much better with her personality, although NISA changed her personality a fair bit anyway.

>>4596435
>>Well I hope they received enough complaints from AT2 fans that they're more careful this time.

Yeah, they did. After they finished AT2 NISA localized Mana Khemia, and the quality of the translation was much better. I even checked the dub for a bit and was surprised to hear that it was much better than the stuff found in AT1/2.

The game itself was awesome by the way. Definitely recommended for Ar Tonelibros.

>>4596705
Are you referring to the second one? Because the first Mana Khemia came out before AT2.

>>4566074

>>4596466

In theory, they could try to censor it to get a T rating instead of an M rating.

In reality, it's more likely they'll just stay the course and market how 'hardcore' it is, similar to what's happening with record of agarest war.

>>4596459
>>4596474

I just woke up, with morning wood no less, to see this and suddenly I don't feel like fapping anymore. How dare you bastards suggest such a thing.

>>4595538

>Cocona says she's going back to Metafalss, and would be happy if Aoto went too so she could show him off to her brother and friends.

Silly Cocona, why would you want Shirou when you could have me? ;_;

>>4598476
>would be happy if Aoto went too so she could show him off to her brother and friends
getting fucked by aoto while croix watches

>>4595538
But Croix is currently on the way to Sol Cluster to murder Aoto for the bathroom incident!

How will Aoto win without Cocona to protect him?

>>4598687

>But Croix is currently on the way to Sol Cluster to murder Aoto for the bathroom incident!

Never happened. Cocona is pure.

What's the bathroom incident? Some sort of ero scene?

>>4598780

Who knows, ZUN. Who knows.

>>4598780

yes Coconas been SPOILED. RUINED FOR MARRIAGE and Aoto is the culprit

>>4598796
CURSE YOU LAWS OF THERMODYNAMIC

Fucking consolefags, why do you get all of the good games?

>>4598886
This gen's magic combination is PC and PS3.
Or all the consoles if you feel like being hardcore.

>Open uTorrent, see the AT1 and AT2 torrents finished along with their respective lossless torrents and with the AT3 Hymmnos lossless torrent finished too.

Gentlemen.. today is a good day.

>>4596466

The transformations and fanservice, for example. If NISA is really anal about it they could cut them while removing the option to turn it on/off. Can't corrupt the puritan eyes of Amerikka!

Or they could leave it alone and market it similar to Agarest War, as another anon said. Or just rate it M "just to be safe." These are the preferred scenarios.

From the videos I've seen I think the transformations are a bit over-the-top. But then I don't really like AT3s combat that much in the first place, I thought AT2 had the best combat.

Due to the increased capacity of the PS3 disk, when we say, "fully-voiced", do we mean all storyline dialogue, all cosmosphere dialogue, all crafting dialogue (excepting shopkeeper interactions because that would just be annoying) etc.?

>>4590886
That reminds me of the tearing problem when the filters are enabled on the PSX emulator. It can only be fixed by using shaders while rendering the graphics in OpenGL. Is there any possibility do something like that on PCSX2?

Since I loved AT2 far too much, I wasted 40 euros on pal version of AT1 so I can play it on my ps2, feels kinda bad

This game makes me so mad. I didn't realise there were so few heroines though, I was expecting numerous girls but I guess there are only a few cosmospheres?

>>4601718
You must be blind, since most of the pics posted are of the 9 main heroines, of the 3 games, which indicates that there aren't that many to choose from on a single game.

>>4601744
I don't really look at most of the pics.

>>4601718

There's 3 routes in each game, or 4 depending on if you don't choose a route, I guess. How many characters did you think there were?

>>4602093
Not a lot, but maybe 4 or 5. The way it talked about choosing where to put the girls in the bath, or which Reyvateil you want to talk with, I expected you'd get more and more as the game continued on, rather than just the 2 you start with plus 1.

>>4602304

Well, the advantage of using less characters means more development, so it's not too bad.

>>4602406
Sure that's fine. But with only 3 it's like, what if none of the 3 really appeal to me? Then I'm sort of stuck.

>>4602466
You always have your right hand.

>>4602842
I don't get it.

>>4601234

There are openGL graphic plugins to use instead of the direct3D ones, but both of them are pretty much broken. Bugs include the ugly black border on character sprites and text/numbers/menu names aren't appearing at all and other problems.

>>4601718
There's about 6-7 partymembers on each AT game: 3 spellcasters and 4 vanguards. Combat mechanic is still protect your casters until they've charged up enough to kill the enemies. I don't see any problem with the few characters, it means more resources on extra conversation with the characters that are there. Each spellcaster heroine has only got a single cosmosphere, but their cosmosphere has multiple levels and each level often follows a different theme.

Better fewer fleshed out characters than getting bucketloads of bland no backstory no development characters dumped on you. Just look at Chrono Cross.

>>4602965
In case it was confusing, the game making me mad, and the few number of heroines was unrelated. I can understand there being only 3 heroines, even though I wish there were 5 fleshed out girls instead.

>>4602466
>>4602985

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that you'd have to be some kind of enormous faggot to not like Shurelia, Mir, and Cocona to at least some degree. Just keep going, you'll see.

>>4603078
I am not far enough in the game to know who Mir is, and I haven't played the first or third so I can't talk about that.

>>4603090

>I am not far enough in the game to know who Mir is

Well there's your problem.

>Posts: 287

Guess I'll need to make a new thread soon.

>>4603146
Well yea, but it's just like 'Choose between Luca and Cloche' but I don't even care that much so I don't know who to choose from.

To those who play AT3 in Japanese, is there a "you gotta choose between these two girls" moment? No spoilers, please, or at least keep it to a minimum.

>>4603146
fapfapfap

>>4603146
>I want to have consensual sex with Mir in the missionary position with the lights on with plenty of hugging afterwards.jpg

You sick bastard, how dare you defile Mir in such a manner.

Mir is probably in the physical condition to fuck someone until there's only a emaciated corpse left of him.

>>4603224
Not really, there's a few choices throughout the game that determine it.

ergh. I still wish Cocona was revateil on 3 instead of vanguard. They should've made her revateil as Cocona, be vanguard as reverse trap.

I mean, she's just regular/IPD but she starts out with a lot of experience (AT2 + whatever that happened inbetween it and 3) or they could've just said Mir did something with her.

in b4 cocona is pure, does not do slut strip transformations, etc.

>>4603220

Just go with the Cloche path, it's the canonical one, anyway. Also, Luca is a fucking bitch and no one likes her. She doesn't get any better.

You've probably seen Mir quite a few times in the game. She doesn't go by the name Mir in AT2 unless you're deep in her cosmosphere. It's hardly a spoiler who she is, though, since she's the main antagonist of the first game and everyone who played it recognizes her right away (and her mind guardian removes all doubt).

I'll leave it at that, though, in case you don't want any spoilers at all. Keep plowing through, it's worth it when you get to Mir.

>>4603372
I did choose Cloche because, yea, I don't like Luca. But I'm quite sure I haven't seen Mir yet. Whereabouts does she show up for me to start conversing her?

>>4603429

>I don't like Luca

Well that's a surprise.

>>4603429

She shows up relatively early, and you've definitely seen her at least a few times if you've already chosen which path you're going down. You don't actually get her in your party until quite a bit later on, though. >>4590877 has her town-map/combat sprite in it, if you're curious as to which character she is.

>>4603488
Ah, then I haven't seen her yet. I literally only just picked to go with Cloche.

>>4603507

It's been a while since I've played, but I do remember her showing up by that time. She may have been mostly buzzing around in her robot, but I'm pretty sure you see her talking with Chester and that old guy whose name I can't remember.

>Also, Luca is a fucking bitch and no one likes her.
suuure, whatever you say. Cloche is no less unlikable in the beginning, they both get better as the story progresses.

>>4603539

I'll agree about Cloche, but I can't say that Luca got any better. Maybe it's just because she reminds me too much of one of my more psychotic ex-girlfriends, but I just couldn't find anything likable about her, even though I finished her route along with the others.

>>4603569
The thing about 2d women is, they get better.

>>4603574

Yes. If nothing else, you can always just wait for the doujins.

>>4603569

My impression was

Croche : unlikeable -> unlikeable -> batshit -> ok
Luca : likeable -> emo -> batshit -> ok
Cocona : bro -> bro -> ;_; -> bro

Cro was very normalfag. Well he's unpopular simply because he didn't stand out enough. He wasn't retarded or hot blooded impulsive, he was the guy who shut up and got shit done which made him much more likeable than the other two mains. No kid embarks on epic adventure bullshit, he was a knight (perhaps prodigious) who got into some shit and fucking dealt with it. Fuck Yeah

>>4603617
I didn't play Cloche's route yet, but my opinion of Luca was obvious liar -> emo -> fine.

I agree about Cocona.

Bump limit reached. New thread at >>4603631.

>>4603636

People don't like Croix? I thought he was far, far better than Lyner. It's nice to have a mature male lead for once (taking care of a kid on his own, even) instead of a stammering retard.

>>4603636

If only they didn't design him looking like a woman. My jaw almost dropped when /jp/ told me that's the main character when I saw the screencaps.