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Previous thread: >>45540129

>> No.45553822

immersion schedule

now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3AJDktctTE

upcoming
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faFFlgr2SM8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oi2c17hSec

>> No.45553829

Has anyone here tried translating doujins or visual novels to learn Japanese?

>> No.45553856

>>45553829
You'll need to be able to translate them in your head regardless.

>> No.45553866

malicious uppercaser

>> No.45553883

>>45553866
Idiot lowercaser.

>> No.45553884

>>45553810
>>45553822
>>>/vt/umor

>> No.45553888

its /jp/ culture so it can stay.

>> No.45553891

>/jp/ """culture"""

>> No.45553907

>>45553856
do you translate to understand your native language?

>> No.45553928

djt stan le sserafim

>> No.45553931

Vtubers: Exist.
Me: Wow! Amazing! Sugoi! *Clap clap clap*

>> No.45553939

horrid fuckin post

>> No.45553941

djt: exist
anon: ENGLISH ENGLISH ENGLISH OFF-TOPIC OFF-TOPIC OFF-TOPIC ECELEB ECELEB ECELEB

>> No.45553951

huh

>> No.45553952

>>45553907
What would I be translating my native English into?

>> No.45553990

>>45553931
this but unironically
vtubers showed me that when women are put under a tight set of behavioral rules and regulations they can actually be likeable

>> No.45553993
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>>45553990
>vtubers showed me that when women are put under a tight set of behavioral rules and regulations they can actually be likeable

>> No.45553999

>>45553990
Very true. The world is going to become much better when leashes are made mandatory for women.

>> No.45554002

sex with fuwawa

>> No.45554007
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>> No.45554015

>>45553952
that's the point

>> No.45554017

it translates straight to understanding

>> No.45554033

>>45554015
That's a pretty stupid point, anon.

>> No.45554041

>>45553856
(not really)

>> No.45554062

>>45554041
Yes really, otherwise you have a very poor understanding of what you're reading.

>> No.45554067

>>45554062
thats the point
youre supposed to learn new words and phrases... in realtime...

>> No.45554086

eops dont know yet, its so cute
there will come a time when you naturally stop translating just keep on consuming media

>> No.45554095

true true i sometimes struggle to find the right word in german because it doesnt exist in english and vice versa

>> No.45554099

>>45554067
I don't see how time plays a factor in your comprehension.

>> No.45554105

>>45554099
its a unique form of immersion

>> No.45554110

>>45554105
Sounds like whitenoising to me.

>> No.45554112

>>45554110
how do you whitenoise while translating a visual novel

>> No.45554114

https://streamable.com/5pm3n7

>> No.45554118

>>45554112
You lost me.

>> No.45554120

>>45554118
ok

>> No.45554127

>>45554086
whitenoisers dont know yet, its so cute
there will come a time when you naturally stop whitenoising just keep on consuming media

>> No.45554140

>>45554120
Wait, are you arguing for or against translating as a form of studying the language?

>> No.45554141

tried maggot baits
very disappointing compared to euphoria

>> No.45554147



>> No.45554161

>>45554114
did she just say ここかで? lmao

>> No.45554163

>>45554140
for translating,
you have to look up a word or phrase multiple times meaning you learn
its a creative endeavour since youre localizing and not translating 1:1 so its fun
its also satisfying because its your own work

>> No.45554174

>>45554033
it isn't though
it's evident you don't need to translate to understand a language

>> No.45554176

>>45554163
Yes, I approve of that. I thought you were arguing for whitenoising when reading. That being said, every translation will begin informally in your head, whether you write them down or not, but writing them down forces you to have a firmer understanding of what it is they're saying.

>> No.45554191

>whitenoising when reading

>> No.45554197
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>> No.45554200

>>45554176
>That being said, every translation will begin informally in your head,
i usually dont translate the words i just intuitively understand them the way you intuitively understand english without having to translate it to other languages

>> No.45554201

>>45554174
I would argue that a language can't be learned without some form of interpretation. You may be at a point where the words and phrases are synonymous with those in your native language, so the conscious effort to recall their equivalents isn't necessary, but there is still process of interpretation that they underwent to reach that point in your mind.
>>45554191
Look up Nukemarine if you ever need proof of it.

>> No.45554203

あのん冬コミいく?

>> No.45554214

>>45554200
Then I would say you probably don't understand them as well as you think.

>> No.45554224

>>45554203
人にいる場所へ行きたくない

>> No.45554225

>>45554201
i agree but there's a big difference between "some form of interpretation" and translation
i agree that you need to understand what's going on
that doesn't mean you have to create a translation

>> No.45554230

uppercaser fight

>> No.45554237

seriously. they aren't chill like us lowercasegods

>> No.45554238

>>45554201
>Look up Nukemarine if you ever need proof of it.
ah, the tried and true fallacium ad nukium
gotta love it

>> No.45554239

>>45554224
>人にいる

>> No.45554249

>>45554225
I disagree. A translation, however informal, must be established. Having only a vague notion of a phrase is not the same as comprehending a phrase. To truly know something, you must be able to say it in your own words, and that includes in your own language, even if you don't know the direct translation of the word.
>>45554238
kek look up Gambs then.

>> No.45554254

There's something about singing along to suicidal Japanese songs that makes me smile.

>> No.45554256

>>45554249
>kek look up Gambs then.
as an example of what

>> No.45554259

>>45554256
Read the conversation.

>> No.45554260

>>45554259
i did and bringing up gambs makes no sense

>> No.45554264

>>45554260
You must not have watched his livestreams.

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>>45554254

>> No.45554282

>>45554264
look man akira is a giant lolcow but he does know japanese
even japs mistake readings all the time when let's playing shit it doesn't mean they don't know what's happening

>> No.45554287

>>45554254
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMMapmheGP8

>> No.45554299

>>45554282
Believe me when I say he doesn't know Japanese. The mistakes he was making showed that he had zero comprehension of what he was reading.

>> No.45554303

>>45554299
>Believe me when I say he doesn't know Japanese.
ye im good thanks

>> No.45554314

where's your livestream uppercaser-tard

>> No.45554315

>>45554303
Okay, Gambs lol

>> No.45554322

>>45554314
>be a djt lolcow
no

>> No.45554323

if i was gambs i wouldn't be posting here i'd be rawdogging some japanese virgins in a rabuho in shinjuku

>> No.45554343

>>45554299
no one has zero comprehension in a vinnie, you get at least 10% from the pictures alone

>> No.45554349

女は筋には興味がない。
かれいな顔好きだよ。

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>>45554349
俺はこんなのが好き

>> No.45554373

I'm going to learn Korean just because it's easier.

>> No.45554386

I love this song.
https://youtu.be/ocAKhyWuawo?si=6C0rJs40xThx5d2K

>> No.45554432

yeah the uppercaser is right

>> No.45554442

me personally?
im learning japanese so i can have an air of smugness as i refuse to speak japanese on /jp/'s japanese speaking thread

>> No.45554450

それな

>> No.45554475

>>45553829
My dream is to localize and sell comic lo in all bookstores across the globe

>> No.45554486

>>45554475
What's stopping you?

>> No.45554489

>>45554486
Governments

>> No.45554507

>>45554489
I don't understand. In what way?

>> No.45554667

>>45554489
なるほど
we are an oppressed minority
right now its hard to sell since selling creates paper trails, so the best thing we can do is take "real jobs" while creating ぺド content for free with anonymous nicknames

>> No.45554673

https://streamable.com/pup0hu

>> No.45554948

This uppercaser is making us phone posters look bad

>> No.45554961

>>45554673
>彼は裸保育園帽でしか興奮出来ない
Wait, is she saying he can only be aroused if he's wearing just a nursery school hat and nothing else?

>> No.45555014

きょうの不思議なにほん


にほんでは

自分を高める系がとても流行る

ということですから常に

今の自分は未熟であると自己認識されている

自分が正しいと思う人が少ないので

自分が正しいと思ってる人は特殊な人と認識される

>> No.45555028

what is the most goofiest most ahhest kanji ever drawn

>> No.45555050

its over

>> No.45555074
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>>45555050

>> No.45555103

>>45553810
Test

>> No.45555132

>>45555103
did it work?

>> No.45555138

>>45553810
Okay here's the question.
Is there any sort of JP language only website designed specifically for foreigners where you could write fanfiction in Japanese?
I kinda want to try practicing my Japanese by writing fanfiction but I feel like on actual Japanese fanfiction websites I'd stick out too much with bad grammar like a nail that needs to be hammered down and overall people there would feel kinda negative about me invading their creative space with my low level Japanese language as a foreigner. I don't want to be an eyesore in the JP environment but I kinda want to try actually writing some anime themed stories myself in Japanese so yeah. I mean practice makes perfect

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>>45555063
going by duolingo there are way more than that

>> No.45555155

how about don't go by duolingo

>> No.45555160

https://streamable.com/b4b0kq

>> No.45555170

>duolingo
>learning languages
huh?

>> No.45555171

>>45555138
Just bother them with your stories. It's the internet, everyone's bothering everyone with their bad fanfiction.

>> No.45555180

>>45555160
>missing その
ngmi

>> No.45555188

it wouldnt sound natural

>> No.45555193

>>45555138
lets start with a simple question
do you know japanese? yes or no
if no, why do you think you should be even attempting to write entire compositions in a language you do not know?

>> No.45555203

Give me ideas for customizing the GUI of a VN.

>> No.45555219
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>>45555203
put these on the sides of the text box

>> No.45555244

>>45555193
I'm around N3-ish (almost passed)

I've been drilling texts, audio recordings, grammar constructions for some time now but I feel like it's not gonna take me anywhere unless I try extensively emulating Japanese language patterns myself. I feel like I'm kinda stagnating with the whole "input only" methods and I'm way too eternally poorfag to afford any sort of actual travelling.

That and I'm kinda curious how my stuff would translate into Japanese, I'm not searching for attention per se (but if 20 people or so check it out I wouldn't mind)

>> No.45555253

>>45555244
why not just talk to people on any of the popular apps instead of be retarded

>> No.45555255

>>45555244
Don't listen to him. Write your truth, king. Let the world know what you have to say. (You'll get better if you do, as well)

>> No.45555260

>>45555155
>>45555170

why wouldn't you? everyone besides us and a hand full of discords are normies. what metric would you be following

>> No.45555272

>admitting that you're from a discord
*sigh*
this general is unsalvagable

>> No.45555276

>>45555188
ngmi

>> No.45555284

>>45555260
because the number for portuguese and ukrainian learners on duolingo includes me and i'm not learning portuguese or ukrainian

>> No.45555285
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>> No.45555287

HOLY FUCK THIS IS ACTUALLY EDUCATIONAL!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3phaXN_FjiE

>> No.45555291

>>45555244
>I feel like I'm kinda stagnating with the whole "input only" methods
how much focused reading and listening did you do in november

>> No.45555296

>>45555244
input is tried and true. sounds more like you've nestled into a certain level reading that isn't challenging for you.also once you get to around N3, it's not going to feel like you making much progress anymore even though are because you're over the hill

>> No.45555303

hes probably never even read an entire proper japanese novel (which would require being able to ace the n1 effortlessly if you could actually understand the text) but thinks hes ready to write one

>> No.45555323

uhm i read hanahira though?

>> No.45555324

>>45555291
Focused? Well I kinda read some stories on this website called "kakuyomu jp" while googling the unfamiliar kanjis and grammar. I suppose it wasn't all that focused, yeah

I do listen/watch a lot of stuff on Youtube but inconsistently (with writing unfamiliar stuff down) and it's starting to feel like some eternal unreachable ceiling. Sometimes it's focused, sometimes it isn't

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>>45555287

>> No.45555340

Talking is by far the best method. We should do group calls.

>> No.45555342

昔々 日本語ができない奴が住んでた

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>> No.45555350

>>45555340
https://streamable.com/l0k9q4

we've known for years, nobody wants to listen

>> No.45555358

had my daily バータ today
brain is blasting at full speeds

eat healthy, lads
if something tastes disgusting, its not good for you

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>>45555349
what did the author mean by this

>> No.45555362

i can't imagine a djt talk not devolving into iq and casing calling

>> No.45555366

>>45555358
its バター

>> No.45555367

>>45555350
wtf is this person a native japanese speaker or a foreigner?

>> No.45555375

>>45555366
hmm maybe i ate margharine on accident like last time

>> No.45555378

にほんはバターうれない

ぜんぜんうれない

チーズはまだうれる

>> No.45555382

The method: a stream a day where djt bullies you into learning japanese

>> No.45555383

>>45555350
lying whore

>> No.45555384

nah it was def butter

>> No.45555393

>>45555350
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Vg2Eh2LOSE&list=PL4C25550A857F59F0
it really makes you think

>> No.45555401

>>45555337
How is that a real sentence?

>> No.45555402

>>45555367
native austrian like me
>>45555383
its all true https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rt_oalr6uXQ

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>> No.45555414

yall niggas wilding if yall believe im gonna learn katakana
that shits insane

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skill issue

>> No.45555429

yotuba is a great monga to start reading with after uve completed ur mandatory 10000 hours of eng subbed anime to acquire most of the language

>> No.45555435

>>45555350
Her Japanese is garbage and she makes a lot of mistakes, so I'd believe it.

>> No.45555437

>>45555408
>カーテン
read that カタナ somehow

>> No.45555443

does 5ch have a daily english thread?

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>>45555429
you're an evil matto

>> No.45555465

>>45555443
It's got a board where foreigners are allowed to post, but the English there is laughably bad and its barely active

>> No.45555467

>>45555402
sounds like she learned japanese by reading...

but man I have to start outputting more

>> No.45555472

do people usually not masturbate while watching vtubers?
i always have my cock out and occasionally stroke it to her voice every now and then

>> No.45555475

>>45555449
i learned all my japanese noises from https://megami.starcreator.com/nanaca-crash/

>> No.45555476

Depends what kind of stream she's doing.

>> No.45555482

>>45555472
that's what lewdtubers are for

>> No.45555494

>>45555467
>I have to start outputting more
Vocaroo is always there for you

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>>45555475

>> No.45555518

>>45555414
https://streamable.com/0r8t5t

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>>45555508
heh, nuthin personal

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>>45555542

>> No.45555557

>>45555472
upcoming immersion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqHVsLuvD8Y

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wow i played it once when i posted the link and then intentionally spiked myself into misato cuz i was bored and ready to get in that 懐

yall r some piss poor gamers i goat 2 say

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>> No.45555620

i don't "play" "games"

>> No.45555622

How do I access the Japanese app store? I want to download the Japanese version of gachashit, namely Arknights

>> No.45555624

What's the best way to learn kanji, in relation to vocabulary?
Should you learn kanjis, then the vocabulary including the kanji? Like you learn 珍, then you learn 珍しい and 珍客 ?
Or should you learn kanji and vocabulary separately? This means every learnt vocabulary is in kana. Let's say you learn どうよう. Later on, you learn the kanji 童, and you realize that it really is written 童謡 .

Which is the best method to learn? I feel like the first puts too much focus on kanji, and may make you forget vocabulary; whereas the second is a roundabout method, that could make you not realize that this word can be written in kanjis you know. Is there another method?

>> No.45555625

>>45555622
android or ios?

>> No.45555633

>>45555625
Andriod

>> No.45555644

something really adorable about pluralizing kanji to kanjis

>> No.45555649

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uY8SmhCynXI
it's that simple

>> No.45555650

>>45555633
i think I did something like this
https://www.wizcase.com/blog/access-google-play-japan-from-anywhere/

you need to make a second profile and use a vpn, then it will lock you into the japanese store with that account for 1 year
you can switch between the accounts freely

>> No.45555651

>>45555555
big loss for djt

>> No.45555660

>>44444444
>>43333333
>>42222222
>>411111111
>>40000000

>> No.45555676

>>45555624
Do RTK 1 + 3 first. You can skip RTK 2, as that's mostly useless. But please make sure to finish RTK 1+3 before you start learning vocabulary, as knowing Kanji will make the vocabulary stick better. It'll also give you a better nuance when you do finally start acquiring Japanese.

>> No.45555697

someone post it

>> No.45555702

>>33333333

>> No.45555705

mrbeast hired the voice actress of naruto to do the japanese audio track for his youtube videos

is mrbeast good immersion?

>> No.45555708

dunno what any of that is

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>> No.45555719

you dont know what mrbeast, a voice actress, naruto, japanese, an audio track, and youtube are?

>> No.45555723

should watch some normie anime so i have something to talk about on dates

>> No.45555729

>>45555719
did i stutter

>> No.45555730

>>45555723
watch kdramas with jap subs

>> No.45555735

>>45555650
Nice, thanks man

>> No.45555737

bitches love disney movies.

>> No.45555740

can someone give me a list of cute jp girls who play minecraft on yt?

i need immersion material

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>>45555737

>> No.45555747

bitches love the sims

>> No.45555754

>>45555730
any jap sub and dub
>>45555740
just search マインクラフト on YT and sort by UL date

>> No.45555769

the jap girls i've been dating have without fail watched jujutu kaisen, shingeki no kyojin and spy family
if you've seen those you're good

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>>45555616
Wait, I didn't realize you had to click when the special thing appears.
I'm now rightfully superior.

>> No.45555775

I literally look like goju

>> No.45555777

OL hoshii

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>>45555769
i wonder why

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>>45555783

>> No.45555796

not a sex tourist couldnt care less what japanese women like

>> No.45555801

>>45555769
back in my day incels said the same thing about reading twilight

>> No.45555804

>>45555796
https://streamable.com/1sqpv6

>> No.45555807

i want a japanese woman who gets love drunk on european cock

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>> No.45555837

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKbRXeJ9lv4
i really like the way she says コンコンコンコン (2:40)

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>> No.45555853

kattakata

>> No.45555862

yotsuba was my first intro to lolicon

>> No.45555868

for me it was boku no pico as crazy as it sounds

>> No.45555879

for me? pico x chico
didnt care for coco that much

>> No.45555883

card captor sakura

>> No.45555895

big fan of cardcaptors myself

>> No.45555905

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERpK-7K70ws

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>> No.45555910

i want to captor a sakura if you catch my tokyo drift

>> No.45555915

>>45555862
bro yotsuba is 4chans mascot. sexualizing her is a bannable offense

>> No.45555916

>>45555908
and people whine about this being too hard to understand
you see exactly what shes doing to make the sound

>> No.45555921

>>45555915
lil bro livin in 2010 :skull:

>> No.45555929

>>45555915
thoughts on >>45555360

>> No.45555937

well yeah i was born in 2010

>> No.45555939

AYO GET DEY ASS

>> No.45555952
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>> No.45555961
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merry christmas

>> No.45555966

im muslim

>> No.45555970

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZMd55_MK_Y

>> No.45555971

i dont think its possible to learn this language but i will go until i die
i wish someone told me beforehand that its not possible

>> No.45555976

why do you *need* to learn japanese, bro?
if its enjoyable, just learn it for the rest of your life
if its not enjoyable, maybe pick a different hobby?

>> No.45555977

its easy to learn the language
*opens anki*
look im learning it right now

>> No.45555978

>>45555976
>why do you *need* to learn japanese
honor

>> No.45555979

>>45555916
Sometimes people overthink sfx.

>> No.45555983

bro if a baby can learn the nihon so can you

>> No.45555986

>>45555977
this but unironically

>> No.45555992

>nihon
ayo shut yo bitch ass up nigg*r yall mf seein this shit?
ay DUMBASS they called nihonGO

>> No.45555995

>>45555983
let's see that same baby learn ei after 15 years of life
strange how suddenly it gets harder

>> No.45556001

>>45555992
signs of not knowing the nihon

>> No.45556009

i'm 29
it's looking grim

>> No.45556012

>29
yeah but whats your biological age?

>> No.45556019

>>45555995
it feels harder only because of the way that "grown-ups" treat language as a scholarly subject to be studied rather than something that you feel out as you see and hear it being used
babies have no other choice but to feel it out, and they succeed consistently

>> No.45556026

>>45555862
why do you think it's the official djt beginner manga recommendation

>> No.45556027

i'm also 29 but i already completed my acquisition arc so all that's left to do is find a nip waifu and settle down

>> No.45556030

>>45556019
blud, a 12 year old japanese boy will spend 12 years learning japanese and still not pass n4

>> No.45556036

>>45556019
absolutely untrue. it's harder because you've already adapted to one language and now have to learn another through the first
babies don't have that burden, but then again, their command of it isn't the best either

>> No.45556039
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djt does not recommend manga to beginners though

>> No.45556042

bro babies take forever to learn a language.
from the moment a baby is born to the point that they are actually fluent, several years pass.
do you really think you can't make better and faster progress than that?

>> No.45556050

bro if you have such a burden for knowing a language don't use it then?

>> No.45556055

yall mfs craycray in they head

>> No.45556059

>>45556036
>have to learn another through the first
you dont have to do that

>> No.45556060

>>45556030
but enough about urself

>> No.45556065

>>45556039
yes it does, your image is outdated because it doesn't account for manga_ocr

>> No.45556068

>>45556019
when you're younger, it's easier to imprint literally anything because your brain is mailable. it gets harder because you're literally adjusted to one paradigm of language.

>> No.45556072

>>45556065
it accounts for ocr by realizing that it's shit and rightfully ignoring it

>> No.45556074

>>45556039
>video games
>lookup speed: 1
fixed with ocr
>ease of language: 3
depends on the game, but anywhere from 1-5
>input density
anywhere from 1-5
>additional context
this should be 5. games generally show you exactly what they mean

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tfw Japs automatically add 6 years to your biological age when making guesses

>> No.45556084

>>45556068
>when you're younger, it's easier to imprint literally anything because your brain is mailable
there is no scientific evidence for this
it's just a giant cope

>> No.45556090

>>45556059
only if you're mentally retarded, sure

>> No.45556091

https://streamable.com/8zgu4e

>> No.45556093

>>45555910
i wanna man

>> No.45556094

>>45556072
at most it accounts for the author making assumptions without trying manga_ocr or for him being unable to set it up

>> No.45556096

>>45556074
>games generally show you exactly what they mean
so does manga but it's not 5 because it doesn't have voice acting, and not all games have voice acting either
a jrpg on the famicom will provide less context than yakuza on pc

>> No.45556098

>>45556068
it gets harder because adults cry about what they don't know instead of focusing on what they can guess

>> No.45556104

>it is harder to learn a language as an adult
define "harder"
do you mean more time consuming? i'd argue that's wrong. children spend several years of 24/7 immersion to get fluent.
in terms of raw input hours, that's over 25,000 hours.
adults learn MUCH (!) faster than that.
so why is it "harder" for an adult then?
i would argue it's "harder" to reach a point where you can blend in with natives.
your vocabulary and grammar can be as good as a native's but you will always sound weird because you don't have the accent

>> No.45556105

>>45556026
>official
stfu

>> No.45556110

>>45556096
well then we must make a greater distinction, since most modern vidya has voice acting. yakuza's actually one of the finest examples of it being better than all other mediums.

>> No.45556115

>>45556105
>https://gohoneko.neocities.org/learn/guide
>Manga is the common recommendation for first getting into reading, especially よつばと!(Yotsubato) with the Yotsuba Reading Pack.

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>> No.45556124

>>45556039
>input ranking
>all weeb shit
touch grass or consume other types of media

>> No.45556127

thats one of the lowest quotients in djt history lmao

>> No.45556128

nobody ever got fluent from reading yotsuba

>> No.45556129

>>45556115
>yotuba
gross

>> No.45556134

>>45556110
if you enter this rabbit hole you also have to start making distinctions between the ease of language of hanahira vs. dies irae
there's always gonna be outliers, the scores just provide rough guidance

>> No.45556141

man if youre going to iq shame me ill just stop posting here
id go to the /int/ djt thread but theres an asshole pole over there

>> No.45556142

yakuza is still shit for beginners because it's too hard lol

>> No.45556144

i told u guys years ago the way it works is the more text there is the more u are gonna struggle playing the game
just play fuckin some gust games on the ps2 or smth gyatt dang

>> No.45556146

>>45556134
fair enough

>> No.45556148

>>45556144
>i told u guys years ago
and you still dont know japanese lol

>> No.45556149

>>45556148
i do thats why when i make posts the thread copes for literal years

>> No.45556150

>>45556142
>wahhhhh the game said words i don't know
>wahhhhhh why doesn't it hold my hand

>> No.45556154

>>45556150
exactly

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>> No.45556169

>>45556149
pass n5 first okay batta boy?

>> No.45556170

>>45556124
you actually cannot make it if you're not an otaku chugger

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>>45556144
i can't play that many atelier games. i'll die

>> No.45556186

>>45556169
implying i even take the jlpt is an insult to my superior level of japanese compared to yours

>> No.45556187

don't atelier games have a lot of text
they also have a lot of dumb fucking ingredient names you won't find in a dictionary

>> No.45556189

>>45556154
if they can't handle a little yakuza dialogue then they're not even trying. yakuza's like all n5 dialogue basically

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>> No.45556193

>>45556098
>>45556084

its the same reason why you cant start at 25 and be prodigy musician or chess grandmaster. its not just hours put in. it's hours put in + when you start.

>> No.45556196

>>45556187
what better way to learn some shit than mixing gay ass herbs and boar asses in a caldron with a hottie alchie babe

>> No.45556202

>>45556192
かわいいね。。。

>> No.45556209

>>45556192
she was reenacting the plane that hit the second tower

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as for me, it's ryza
i still need to finish this game

>> No.45556217

>>45556211
>お前
so heckin' rude

>> No.45556226

>>45556193
Right, natives are prodigies at their native languages

>> No.45556229

>>45556217
care to elaborate on this?

>> No.45556234

>>45556186
delusional loser lmao

>> No.45556236

>>45556229
what if i called you お前
you wouldn't be too happy now would you

>> No.45556243

お前お前お前お前お前お前!!!

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>>45556226
im sure if everyone is japan's citizens practiced reading and writing as much as prodigy musicians and gm do at a young age, they would be very well read. nice deflection. if anything you're making my point true that even minimal at a young age is extremely effective

>> No.45556250

>>45556234
https://vocaroo.com/
you cant ever win so enough about you

>>45556236
im not japanese so it wouldnt bother me but i dont think it would bother a japanese person whom you were on a familiar basis with in most casual contexts

>> No.45556270

>>45556250
>but i dont think it would bother a japanese person whom you were on a familiar basis with in most casual contexts
this right here is how rude people think

>> No.45556273

>>45556250
>you cant ever win
yeah that's why you run away from real japanese tests you fucking cuck loser. if you were good you would get on live stream and show off your japanese without having to hide behind irony

>> No.45556277

why is everyone here afraid to make a post with 50 words or more

>> No.45556292

>>45556273
whats the fun in that when i can mess with dedicated seethers like u on demand for literal years whenever i want lmao

>> No.45556296

missing iq guys 4 sigma posts

>> No.45556298

Just use your gaijin card and be rude as fuck while speaking your mind
It's what they expect and what they love about foreigners
Only weebs try to fit it

>> No.45556299

my iq is not 88 and its also not the lowest in djt history

>> No.45556300

>>45556277
what would i post about?

>> No.45556309

>>45556298
https://streamable.com/gv9q3w

>> No.45556312

>>45556250
>when you're losing the argument so you paste the vocaroo link
lmao

>> No.45556314

are these threads good yet

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just go to japan, put the crown on, and tell u`re truth king

>> No.45556321

>>45556312
lol

>> No.45556322

>>45556074
give an example of a game with density above 2 that isn't a vinnie

>> No.45556326

>>45556312
i posted the vocaroo link to win harder actually
never in a second am i losing in anything to anyone here not even nanaca crash

>> No.45556327

its 2023 bro if i put my voice on vocaroo, one of you creeps is going to clone my voice and use it to say all kinds of racist stuff

>> No.45556330

>>45556322
purse owner is basically a vinnie

>> No.45556331

>>45556322
kiseki.
full-stop
period
*drops mic*

>> No.45556332

>>45556327
so speak different from your regular voice its easy

>> No.45556333

>>45556326
youve never won anything you retarded cuck lmao

>> No.45556339

>>45556326
>i posted the vocaroo link to win harder actually
coooooooooooooooooooope

>> No.45556340

>>45556333
every time you think about me i win
every time you respond to my posts i win
every time you realize you are now manually breathing i win

>> No.45556346

>>45556340
same but when you read my posts

>> No.45556347

>mommy look i won the troll competition!!! m-m-mommy?? mommy!!!!...

>> No.45556350

basically i just won

>> No.45556355

47
brutal

>> No.45556357

>>45556330
you're not very good at reading

>> No.45556358

new question: did these threads get worse or did being away for a bit lower my tolerance

>> No.45556365

let me pay my respects *shits on grave*

>> No.45556366

people used to talk about japanese in these threads

>> No.45556368

>>45556358
they're really bad now because everything has run its course and all that's left is the rotating door of old regulars who pop in and out and the vtuber loser that's always here who thinks all of them are jamal

>> No.45556372

>>45556366
then jamal came back

>> No.45556374

>>45556372
true true

>> No.45556382

why did cuckmal come back?

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>> No.45556388

>>45556382
like criminals returning to the scene of the crime, it's just human nature

>> No.45556390

he missed getting owned

>> No.45556392

>>45556368
things only seem bad because nothing will ever reach the highs of the mia breakup

>> No.45556396

>>45556382
he heard we were talking crap and wanted to set the record straight

>> No.45556403

>>45556382
to beg og to pay him attention

>> No.45556404

>>45556392
truly the greatest arc in djt history

>> No.45556412

>>45556403
lmaoooo he really is a pathetic cuck

>> No.45556414

>>45556392
true now that bunsuke exists there will never be anything like that ever again

>> No.45556420

>>45556392
I've entered the thread, so you could think of this moment as a DJT renaissance

>> No.45556428

Let's embrace our new uppercaser overlords

>> No.45556434

>>45556428
Based

>> No.45556435

lets embrace OG and make jacuck watch

>> No.45556436

>>45556420
dunno you but ill be cheering for you mr voluntary lolcow

>> No.45556438

Upperbros ftw

>> No.45556440

think that's enough djt for me actually
farewell, you pitiful creatures

>> No.45556445

>>45556440
see you tomorrow

>> No.45556453

>>45556440
See you later today.

>> No.45556458

man, OG's manko felt the best

>> No.45556459

>>45556440
バセド

>> No.45556483

bros, how do you say "deep kissing og" in japanese?

>> No.45556489

>>45556483
ogをレロレロする

>> No.45556491
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>> No.45556494

>>45556483
OGとディープキスする

>> No.45556495

>>45556491
really? i never went to church

>> No.45556503

>>45556440
u sound mad bro

>> No.45556520

why are kisses in japanese media so lewd? is their idea of normal a deep, wet, sloppy kiss?

>> No.45556526
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*humorous sigh*

>> No.45556535

>>45556526
you are likely embarrassing yourself here

>> No.45556544

I'll embarrass you
*kisses you with deep tongue action*

>> No.45556550

>>45556535
?

>> No.45556552

>>45556550
what did they actually say in the show? thats the quickest way to cut to the chase

>> No.45556558

>>45556552
kys

>> No.45556560

>>45556544
nympho og...

>> No.45556563

>>45556558
why are you mad? because thats a financial document where everything is in denominations of 万? lmao

>> No.45556569

>>45556563
kys

>> No.45556571

When people concatenate foot with another word, I have a tendency to pronounce foot the same way you'd pronounce hoot.

>> No.45556572

>>45556563
bro your counting....

>> No.45556573

>>45556569
oh no your brilliant post has been thwarted!!

>>45556572
10,000,000万 is 10 billion so oh no youve outted yourself as low iq!! lmao

>> No.45556588

>>45556573
7 + 4 zeros = 11 zeros, 10 billion has 10 zeros

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>> No.45556593

there is no plurals in this language?

>> No.45556596

>mental gymnastics to justify an obvious translation error
only on djt

>> No.45556601

posting rate is higher than normal, yeah new years posting is a thing

>> No.45556603

>>45556593
there is but it's rarely specified

>> No.45556605

>>45556573
>10,000,000万 is 10 billion
https://jisho.org/search/10000000

>> No.45556611

>>45556573
lmfao saved to my jamel fail compilation folder

>> No.45556613

>>45556601
anon... it's not new years yet..... lol.....

>> No.45556615

>>45556603
just like compared my superior native language, english language don't specify plural a lot

>> No.45556624

jacuck cant stop losing holy shit
>>45556535
turn on ur monitor lul

>> No.45556629

if you wanna start reading don't read yotsuba...
little amount of kanjis make the text confusing

>> No.45556648

...

>> No.45556653

its yotuba, actually..

>> No.45556655

>>45556613
yeah it is boomer
>4chan Demographic
>Age: 18-34
>Gender: ~70% male, ~30% female

>> No.45556659

>kanjis
awww :)

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>>45556655

>> No.45556665

>>45556520
>300 replies in under an hour
is the thread worth reading?

>> No.45556668

>jamal confused 千 and 万
glad the old gang isnt here to see this most shamefur L or j would have to seppuku

>> No.45556669

>>45556662
That's really late compared to the average uni

>> No.45556673

>winter holidays
the fuck is this shit?
we called it "Weihnachtsferien" (christmas holidays) when I was still in school

>> No.45556674

>>45556277
because the writing iq estimator has a minimal character limit

>> No.45556675

>>45556655
70% male
29% traps
1% female

>> No.45556678

>>45556593
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmaXlsL3090
here at 1:09 for example
忘れてた記憶たち

the たち is the pluralizing suffix turning memory into memories

>> No.45556681

actually i just pasted it into google and it gave me 10b wrongfully and i went with it cuz lol if im ever gonna do math a single time in my life
but it is 100b so woops

>> No.45556685

hey j i would love to post the actual clip but im generally opposed to assisted suicide

>> No.45556687

>>45556681
meh cope, rate it 6/10

>> No.45556689

>>45556573
Jamal, you’re making me look bad. I’ve tried to tell people how good you are at Japanese, and now you decide to you pull a stunt like this?

>> No.45556690

>>45556681
*hands you the single biggest L of your djt career* good job squiddo try passing n6 next time

>> No.45556691

>>45556681
i wont allow you this cope

>> No.45556694

>>45556681
massive L

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>>45556687
im being honest tho
>>45556689
>>45556690
>>45556691
i never said i could do math thats a lotta numbers haha

>> No.45556702

>>45556698
bro it's time to stop posting this just isn't your day

>> No.45556703

>>45556322
violated princess

>> No.45556704

>>45556681
Single greatest cope in the whole thread’s existence, and I’ve seen a lot.

>> No.45556706

i was wrong about the number but u should appreciate that i knew the financial sheet was in 万s im really smart i swear tehe

>> No.45556707

>>45556681
put me in the screencap

>> No.45556708

>>45556678
>たち and there is ら too
I only ever see it used for peoples though. this language has no plurals

>>45556666

>> No.45556712

130-144 really is one group

>> No.45556719

>>45556708
its used quite a lot in lyrics

>> No.45556720

>>45556708
>I only ever see it used for peoples though. this language has no plurals
thats because ydkj and havent read enough

>> No.45556723

>>45556706
>but u should appreciate that i knew the financial sheet was in 万s
that financial sheet in particular wasnt

>> No.45556727

lol just read the uppercaser post at the beginning of the thread crazy what dunning kruger does to a fella

>> No.45556731

>>45556681
sending this to og

>> No.45556730

>>45556698
my rating is final, be thankful it was that high

>> No.45556738

>>45556698
Man, imagine the storm I’d get if I got caught using GT to prove I’m right lmao

>> No.45556743

>i know nihongo, watasi no sainou wakaranai no?
>i have to paste numbers into google translate tho

>> No.45556747

>>45556738
stfu og

>> No.45556753

now i know jamal cant read my power level from the scouter

>> No.45556762

>>45556723
im gonna b so mad if this guy was right >>45556668 and the tl wasnt wrong


>>45556738
regular google only wanted to give me 10m and ignore the ching chong fsr

>> No.45556769

>>45556727
>lowercaser feels the need to reply to 7-hour-old post
lmao

>> No.45556772

if only jamel was 3 points higher this wouldn't have happened

>> No.45556775

>>45556747
You give her too much credit. She could never write replies as high quality as mine.

>> No.45556780

>>45556681
sending this to iq guy

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>> No.45556789

>>45556762
>regular google only wanted to give me 10m
>needing google at all to add 4 zeros for you
ydkj

>> No.45556794

>>45556780
iq guy said 140 to 144 is the grey zone between normal people and geniuses

>> No.45556805

>>45556743
lol almost want to make a video of the posts with that playing in the background

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45556813

I don't wanna go to japan anymore bros...

>> No.45556817

At this point the next garbage day could just feature Jamal's posts

>> No.45556821

>>45556762
https://litter.catbox.moe/8jcxpj.mp4

>> No.45556829

can we just agree jamal isn’t a genius? he tried act smart about simple addition and then backpedaled and admitted he can’t even add zeros.
i rate him 90 iq, but i’m willing to go lower if others can present more evidence against him

>> No.45556835

jamel jamel jamel jamel

>> No.45556839

>>45556821
JAMAL BTFO HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH

>> No.45556841

>>45556821
jamalsisters...

>> No.45556845
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45556845

almost threw up a little

>> No.45556846

>>45556829
yeah shouldn't a genius know its 7 zeros in one look without counting? and add 4 to it correctly?

>> No.45556848

>>45556821
national laugh at jamal day

>> No.45556854

jamal expected coal from santa, but all he got was L after L

>> No.45556855
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45556855

>>45556821
>when og sees this

>> No.45556856

his eq has to be very high cuz you just won't stfu about him

>> No.45556857 [DELETED] 

>>45556846
kek
can you not count now too?

>> No.45556863

>>45556821
the fat lady is laughing at you, jamal-kun..

>> No.45556865

>>45556821
jamal sisters… it hurts

>> No.45556871

>>45556821
oh it was worse than i imagined lol

>> No.45556873

>>45556821
Include me in the screencap. It’s not everyday we get a Jamal loss this blatant

>> No.45556877

https://www.nhs.uk/mental-health/feelings-symptoms-behaviours/behaviours/help-for-suicidal-thoughts/

>> No.45556881

>>45556821
Damn, Jamal ain't gonna show his face around here for a while after this huge L

>> No.45556882

okay so which posts did jamal make?

>> No.45556886

>>45556855
she wouldn't be able to hear it

>> No.45556889

>>45556821
nooooooo jamel’s a super genius i swearrrr

>> No.45556890

jamels dokoroga moment but worse

>> No.45556894

82
this one >>45556882

>> No.45556897

>>45556821
with this the djt can begin its healing

>> No.45556900

>>45556890
quiz can finally rest in his grave in peace

>> No.45556904

>>45556821
Epic djt moment

>> No.45556908

>>45556829
>he tried act smart about simple addition
yeah honestly >>45556573 makes it so much funnier

>> No.45556909

it's always kids shows that btfo djters the hardest

>> No.45556910

>>45556708
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=75&v=ATL2v5QQE6M

>> No.45556919

thinking about becoming the new jamal. how does one become a famous tripfag?

>> No.45556923

>>45556882
these

>>45556535
>>45556552
>>45556563
>>45556573
>>45556681

>> No.45556931

jamal doesnt post like that

>> No.45556933

>>45556919
The most successful (ie famous) tripfags are the funniest lolcows
That's the secret to his success

>> No.45556938

what did he mean by "do the math" is he saying he can't add 7 and 4 ?

>> No.45556943

>>45556919
>how does one become a famous tripfag?
start by taking cock up your ass for a year to become a huge faggot. then await further instructions

>> No.45556949

>>45556931
it is literally him
>>45556698

>> No.45556951

>>45556938
He’s implying that he already did the math of adding 7+4 (he didn’t)

>> No.45556957

don't care about your thread celebs holy shit

>> No.45556962

>>45556957
sticks and stones, eh?

>> No.45556964

>>45556957
This isn’t an important day in DJT history. Notice how Jamal has gone strangely quiet after the dust had settled

>> No.45556980

im right here i already said i got the number wrong lol

>> No.45556983

so apparently 142 iqs cant reliably count seven things and need to google it

>> No.45556984

>>45556813
Was really crazy, it was a combination of outfitting houses with typhoon proof tiles adding too much weight to roofs and buckling under an earthquake

>> No.45556998

>>45556980
you got everything else wrong, too, but lets process your Ls one at a time

>> No.45557001

>>45556998
what else was there

>> No.45557010

>>45556983
it was already grouped in 3s so if you aren't a retard you would do 3 times 2 plus 1 which takes 1 second to process if you are above 120 iq

>> No.45557013

If your Japanese is good enough, it's time to ditch english translations inside your head. Adopt japanese religion using 日本語.

Start here: https://www.tendai.or.jp/qa/15.html

>> No.45557017

jesus wasnt no jap

>> No.45557020

>religion
Please don't insult my cognitive palate with your exotic flavor of imaginary skydaddies.

>> No.45557024

115

>> No.45557025

>>45490295
this post aged well lmao

>> No.45557031
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45557031

jesus died slaying マンコ

>> No.45557043

its a good thing jamal didnt take the arithmetic test, it would have been very embarrassing for him

>> No.45557046

>>45557013
サタンよ、我が後に退け、汝はわが躓物なり、汝は神のことを思はず、反つて人のことを思ふ

>> No.45557056

>>45556573
lmfao

>> No.45557066

>>45556573
>oh no youve outted yourself as low iq!! lmao
the irony lol

>> No.45557072

dame this is the djt ive been missing
we need more newfags for a constant supply of delicious self owns though

>> No.45557085

tbf we don't know how jamal's iq is distributed over verbal and nonverbal, if his nonverbal is this bad his verbal might be as high as 150 for the total to come out to 142

>> No.45557088

women aren't attracted to,
>status
>money
>muscles

women are attracted to,
>faces
>height

this is the final blackpill and why i will make it in japan while most japanese people wont

>> No.45557090

they say math is power but it only brings me pain

>> No.45557097

crazy how i can beat jamal at what hes strongest and im weakest at

>> No.45557102

>>45557088
sv3rgie would call you a loser tho

>> No.45557103

>>45557088
women are definitely attracted to money lol

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45557104

>>45557085
i think jamal's nonverbal, if you know what i mean

>> No.45557114

>>45557104
We've heard him talk but he doesn't do it anymore because he's afraid of AI

>> No.45557119

>>45557102
nah sv3rige would congratulate me on annihilating some poor jap's manko and single-handedly fixing their lousy birth rate
>>45557103
common misconception, they are attracted to money from a rational pov, but instinctually, they couldnt care less
youve heard of gold diggers, but ever heard of a face digger? yeah me neither

>> No.45557128

RJ01130999
dame look at this fat... star rating

(posted this in the tulpa general by mistake)

>> No.45557134
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45557134

i saw it

>> No.45557141

nice

>> No.45557142

>>45557085
yeah but he has double standards and judges peoples iq through their writing

>> No.45557154

>>45557088
men generally underestimate the impact status symbols have on women, as they can make you appear taller and more attractive

>> No.45557167

jamal thinks how you are raised can drastically change your iq, that alone tells you he knows nothing about iq lol

>> No.45557176

he is right tho? a black guy in africa has lower iq than a black guy in usa

>> No.45557182

It's true though. Proven by the Flynn effect.

>> No.45557192

>>4555708
im a good looking giga whitoid and still cant get the ロリBBA i love to look at me
what do bros...

>> No.45557201

>>45557088
women are attracted to,
>reliability (status, money, etc.)
>looks (nicely proportioned body, face, hair, height, etc.)

>> No.45557207

>>45557201
reliability is more of a fear than an attraction
do you think a woman thinks about cash when she orgasms in your arns?

>> No.45557239

76
82
better nutrition and protection from diseases/toxins as an infant, also the flynn effect reversed decades years ago.

studies show very high correlations to biological constants like the rate at which your brain metabolizes glucose and the speed and thickness of your nerves.

twin studies show people with the same dna have the same iq when they grow up. adoption studies show that by adulthood adoptive siblings aren't more similar in iq than strangers and nurture makes 0 difference.

>> No.45557241

>>45557167
lil bro got too cocky

>> No.45557258

>decades years ago
huh

>> No.45557281

>>45557239
>better nutrition and protection from diseases/toxins as an infant
In other words different upbringing.
>also the flynn effect reversed decades years ago
Yes, likely because the environmental conditions stopped improving, which would only further prove the point:
>Bratsberg & Rogeberg (2018) present evidence that the Flynn effect in Norway has reversed between the years 1962-1991, and that both the original rise in mean IQ scores and their subsequent decline within this period can be observed within families consisting of native-born parents and their children, indicating that environmental factors were the likely cause for these changes.

>twin studies show people with the same dna have the same iq when they grow up
Is one of the twins raised in medieval england or something? Because if not then this doesn't prove anything.

>> No.45557297

>>45557207
It doesn't matter if the attraction is sexual or not in nature, that's how you end with retards like:

>women are attracted to,
>faces
>height

(because they can't stop thinking about sex, which is more often a primary attraction for men than women)

>> No.45557335

only thing women care about is looking good in front of other women

>> No.45557339

whyd the thread suddenly turn to incel hours

>> No.45557341

>>45557258
i am not high iq, but i know jamal is wrong here. no one would say the way you are raised can halve your reaction time, that's something you are born with. but those things are also correlated with iq.

>>45557281
everyone agrees malnutrition and disease in prenatal and infancy stages reduces iq, but nothing can increase it. twin studies with twins raised in different environments, special education programs, and military programs prove it.
>Yes, likely because the environmental conditions stopped improving
they stopped improving because the differences caused by poor nutrition and disease have been eliminated.
>Is one of the twins raised in medieval england or something? Because if not then this doesn't prove anything.
it doesn't matter where or how they are raised. there are many twin studies with huge numbers of participants of every kind but nurture left no impact on iq by adulthood.

why do you find it hard to believe iq is a hard biological constant when it is highly correlated with hard physical constants? people don't argue tallness is determined mostly by genes but for some reason can't accept iq is fixed by your dna.

>> No.45557440

brb bros, studying for the iq test

>> No.45557457

raw meat diet = highest iq in infants

>> No.45557459

we wouldn't have survived as a species if every mental aspect of ours was completely moldable by our environment, have you thought about that? people inherit personality disorders like ODD from biological parents they never met or heard accounts of, so why wouldn't they inherit iq?

>> No.45557461

>>45557341
>everyone agrees malnutrition and disease in prenatal and infancy stages reduces iq, but nothing can increase it
If that's your reasoning then you've failed the IQ test, because what you just said means exactly that good nutrition and protection from disease can increase it.
>it doesn't matter where or how they are raised.
It does matter when you're supposed to be testing differences in upbringing. If both are raised in comparable conditions then your test is useless.
>why do you find it hard to believe iq is a hard biological constant
Don't move the goalpost. This was about better upbringing being able to increase IQ and you've already conceded that it can.

>> No.45557470

>>45557440
Can you guys help me? I was watching this show and one of the characters said 一千万円, but I'm not sure how to add up the zeros.

>> No.45557518

>>45557461
>that good nutrition and protection from disease can increase it.
if you don't have a fixed reference then the concept of increase/decrease is meaningless. twin studies can establish a baseline for what a person's iq would have been, and nothing can raise iq beyond that but you can lower it. it turns out it doesn't matter how the other twin is raised as long as they were not severely malnourished or infected with pathogens attacking the brain, the iqs converge. so we can say your dna fixes your biological iq and your environment can lower it from this level but can't raise it above the level.

>If both are raised in comparable conditions then your test is useless.
obviously. you're not as smart as you think if you think everyone in the past 100 years with the means and brains to conduct these massive twin studies weren't interested in comparing different conditions.
>This was about better upbringing being able to increase IQ
increase from what? you clearly didn't think this through.

>> No.45557519

>>45557470
I happen to be an expert
first we: ichi sen kata en
now we count the zeros; e, a, a, e. That's 4 zeros!
一千万円 = 1.000.000

>> No.45557542

Anki? Complete.
Grammar Study? Done.
Immersion? 2 hours of reading and more to come.

You're not like me.

>> No.45557545

>>45557519
Thank you, anon!
Just google translated the number and got the same thing, wow!

>> No.45557605

>>45557519
>>45557545
that's wrong tho

>> No.45557610

dno why you would still argue about iq when 155 iq guy already proved everything about it

>> No.45557627

>>45557519
>first we: ichi sen kata en
lmfao

>> No.45557631

1000億 might be more up your alley

>> No.45557642

>>45557605
Shush, Jamal. You have no room to talk.

>> No.45557643

so im supposed to watch anime instead of playing dragon quest

>> No.45557646

im gonna argue not knowing 万 is worse than katite

>> No.45557658

>>45557643
you can play dragon quest it's just going to take longer

>> No.45557665

>>45557643
depends on your level

>> No.45557667

>>45557643
Play Dragon Quest. It's more fun.

>> No.45557668

remember when we laughed at matto for telling steve that you learn numbers with mia
yeah...

>> No.45557669

>>45557646
true but which cope is worse
>i dont have this mined either
>actually i just pasted it into google

>> No.45557680

>>45557669
Both are pretty bad. One is an extremely common word, the other is literally a number. I feel like the number is slightly worse.

>> No.45557688

devastating thread for ishidan guy

>> No.45557696
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45557696

i knew south of course but did u guys know 南極

>> No.45557703

yes

>> No.45557711

Computer! Bring the japanese language installation floppy disks!

>> No.45557717
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45557717

>> No.45557720

>>45557696
Yeah, なん is how you read it for mahjong. ezpz

>> No.45557724

>>45557470
Oh no no no uppercasers not like this

>> No.45557734

>>45557518
>if you don't have a fixed reference then the concept of increase/decrease is meaningless
No, see the Flynn effect. It postulates increases/decreases and it's not meaningless.
>twin studies can establish a baseline for what a person's iq would have been
...In the given environment, not regardless of environment. Unless the second twins are on average raised in a substantially different environment, like in medieval England vs modern England.
>it turns out it doesn't matter how the other twin is raised as long as they were not...
"It doesn't matter how it's raised except if it's raised in certain ways which are different from how the first twin is raised."
>so we can say your dna fixes your biological iq and your environment can lower it from this level
No, all we can say is that the combination of DNA and a given environment it's expressed in fixes your IQ.
>if you think everyone in the past 100 years with the means and brains to conduct these massive twin studies weren't interested in comparing different conditions.
I don't, I think they just weren't able to because you can't recreate substantially different conditions for a sufficient amount of subjects. On average the conditions are going to end up being similar with regards to the factors driving the Flynn effect, even if they have some more superficial differences.
But you're free to cite studies that you think have managed to test it properly.
>increase from what?
From the counter-factual situation where the upbringing lacks proper nutrition and whatever other factors account for the Flynn effect or its reverse.
>you clearly didn't think this through.
Yeah someone hasn't.

>> No.45557735

damn hit em with the line-by-line

>> No.45557739 [SPOILER] 
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45557739

immersion time~~

>> No.45557743
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45557743

>> No.45557756

>>45557457
https://streamable.com/cob7fh

>> No.45557767
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45557767

>> No.45557768

here's the thing people aren't seeing

the number was in the image not in text form
so jamal actually sat there staring at the image and typed out the entire number first, then copied and pasted it into google because he felt like double checking and didn't notice google translate being wrong. he then pasted it into 6573 (or first typed it out in that post) calling the other guy low iq and still didn't notice its wrong, which means he got it wrong a total of three times

not quite the "whoops i didnt care or think 2 much abt it" moment he's trying to paint it as now is it

>> No.45557778

Yeah we know its his biggest L ever

>> No.45557787
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45557787

>>45557739

>> No.45557796

>>45557768
It's really funny how he still tried to pull the "lol I'm not some math nerd" after accusing someone else of being low IQ for making the literal mistake he was making.
It doesn't get any better than that.
Also
>he needs google translate to double check adding a few zeros
lmao

>> No.45557817

nihongod? more like nihong0000000000d

>> No.45557838

>>45557817
jej

>> No.45557840

haven't been here in years. is sunning your fourth eye still considered necessary for learning japanese?

>> No.45557848

>>45556821
fuck bros i missed it and it 404d can someone reup?

>> No.45557856

>>45557840
its considered necessary for leading a good life

>> No.45557863

>>45557848
you didnt miss anything, it was just a character pronouncing the number as 10 million instead of 10 billion, thus proving jj wrong

>> No.45557886

https://www.sk.com.br/sk-krash.html


あざっす me later

>> No.45557889

sus looking link so im not gonna click

>> No.45557919

>>45556217
>>45556229
>>45556236
>>45556250
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/EAi5lv-hkDM

>> No.45557927

this clip has never been more relevant https://streamable.com/0gzre

>> No.45557961

as an esl I'm still not perfect at numbers so I get it if you never have to use them a whole lot on your target language

>> No.45557963

>>45557734
>No, see the Flynn effect
the flynn effect was generational. it has nothing to do with twin iq baselines
>...In the given environment, not regardless of environment
in almost any environment, what do you not understand about this? they looked at twins who grew apart in very different environments, and the iqs converged at adulthood. the convergence occurred in twin pairs, regardless of differences in upbringing.
>"It doesn't matter how it's raised except if it's raised in certain ways which are different from how the first twin is raised."
*except a fixed, absolute condition that has nothing to do with how the other twin was raised. severe malnutrition and brain disease are not relative terms
>No, all we can say is that the combination of DNA and a given environment it's expressed in fixes your IQ.
no iq differences between pairs of people with identical dna have been found across many variations in the environment that don't include the one fixed condition mentioned above.
>I don't, I think they just weren't able to because you can't recreate substantially different conditions for a sufficient amount of subjects.
but they did. there's enormous data on iq. millions were tested in the united states alone in the mid- and early 20th century

>Yeah someone hasn't.
here is one way you could show nurture can increase iq.
find many twins where one of the two has an iq substantially higher than the other and the twin with the lower iq was not malnourished or infected with brain disease at the prenatal or infant stages. but you don't see this or anything similar. ever.

>> No.45557989
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45557989

they said the thing
let's goooooooooooooooo

>> No.45558002

>>45557743
why not read it in japanese?

>> No.45558027

>>45557669
lol

>> No.45558032
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45558032

psa: its out

>> No.45558053

>>45557889
it's krashen telling u to watch anime and read vinnies

>> No.45558062

i already do that dont need a 長鼻族 telling me to do it

>> No.45558067

no wonder he's on board with all the political propaganda

>> No.45558075

quiz bros we won today

>> No.45558078

... the losing competition

>> No.45558081

>>45558062
mined 長鼻族 

>> No.45558090

i wanna 万

>> No.45558102
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45558102

what are you guys playing today?

>> No.45558107

>>45558102
just finished >>45557989

>> No.45558130

>>45558107
how was it? I started the anime recently

>> No.45558137

gambs says rance 4 sucks ass bro

>> No.45558151

>>45558137
idk who that is but yeah it's been a bit of a drag and I'm not enjoying it so much. I'm not skipping any of them though

>> No.45558162

>>45558130
it's a dumb game for masochists don't play it

>> No.45558172

i say gambs sucks ass
and dick

>> No.45558175

>>45557963
>the flynn effect was generational
Yes, because the upbringing environment can substantially improve on average only throughout generations.
>in almost any environment
No, in a very small 1930-2020, probably globalized Western selection of environments where any differences approaching substantiality get cancelled anyway because the studies must involve many subjects.
Again, feel free to cite a study that shows this supposed breadth of different environments.
>they looked at twins who grew apart in very different environments
Very different environments? Like what? One 1970s US suburb versus another?
>severe malnutrition and brain disease are not relative terms
Quality of nutrition is a continuum, and so is prevelance of disease. So those are going to be relative between two upbringing environments. That's why the Flynn effect involves the IQs rising continuously and not making discrete jumps. The latter wouldn't even be a coherent proposition.
>many variations in the environment
It hasn't been shown that the variations are representative of the entire space of variations that could affect IQ. It's like concluding that brain damage can't decrease IQ because you've tested "many variations in bodily damage" like removing someone's toes and breaking their arm and they didn't affect their IQ.
>millions were tested in the united states alone in the mid- and early 20th century
Lmao. "Many variations in the environment", yet all of them are early 20th century United States. I can't hold all this variation!
>but you don't see this or anything similar. ever.
Because there's no data on twins raised in substantially different environments. Just a bunch of Western kids from the same time period where everything averages out. It's a flawed methodology which isn't justified by the fact that sufficient data isn't available.

>> No.45558201

oh god

>> No.45558226

>>45557927
lmfao

>> No.45558235

>anki tells me to learn 収穫
>hm ok but i doubt this will be all that useful
>next dragon ball episode 収穫物 is used
eh?! based!
still ngmi it though

>> No.45558236

>>45557927
didn't know this clip still existed lol

>> No.45558241

matt is so relatable and funny and sexy

>> No.45558253

>>45558235
if a word is on wanikani you know its gonna be important
https://www.wanikani.com/vocabulary/%E5%8F%8E%E7%A9%AB

>> No.45558266

why does anki keep changing the fucking card so often when i tab out to do something else for a sec? am i hitting some hotkey? it's really getting on my nerves

>> No.45558329

>>45558175
there is something known as the null hypothesis to deal with disingenuous little shits like you. i don't know what environment you are thinking of but if "probably" none of the countless "western" environments studied so far are exhaustive or varied enough, then until you can find a large scale study identifying an environment that drives iq increases for one twin in a pair when he is subjected to that environment, we will reasonably assume such an environment doesn't exist.
you have nothing more than groundless hypotheses about magical, undiscovered methods of nurture. I'm sure their vague existence in your imagination is convincing proof to you that all studies to date on the subject are flawed and unconvincing because their conclusion makes you upset, but no one except people similarly butthurt and deluded will humor that reasoning

>> No.45558425

>>45558235
i feel like there's this weird effect when you learn a word, no matter how obscure it seems, you will see it the next day or something

>> No.45558427
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45558427

>>45558266
>tabbing out
says here you're ngmi

>> No.45558433

>>45558266
its telling you to finish your reps ngmi-san

>> No.45558445

why does everyone in japan wear a tie? even lowly office workers and high school students have outfits with ties.

i work for a global multi-billion dollar corporation and nobody, not even the CEO wears a tie. (we have flat hierarchies too btw)

>> No.45558449

>>45558425
baader-meinhof phenomenon

>> No.45558453

dont look that up

>> No.45558458

*hovers*

>> No.45558464

>>45558425
its probably not that obscure then, you just think it is for some unjustified reason. im an esl, have been learning english for over 25 years, and there legitimately are a lot of obscure words in the english language that i've only seen like once or twice in these 25 years.

>> No.45558467

>>45558464
u remember any? i'd be curious

>> No.45558470

>>45558458
69M

>> No.45558481

let me think about it and i'll get back to you

>> No.45558489

>>45558464
esls are the worst

>> No.45558507
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nm i can just look at a vocab test if i want to see obscurish english words

>> No.45558516

ah yes, those vocabulary tests that remove latin words so eop bros don't feel too ashamed

>> No.45558519

>>45558507
banana is my favorite bruit

>> No.45558532

https://preply.com/en/learn/english/test-your-vocab is what i used, i clicked thru the easy parts

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>>45558102
Magic Knight Rayearth on Saturn.

>> No.45558545

flummoxed

>> No.45558552

>>45558427
>>45558433
勉強途中での仮眠のどこがわりい?

>> No.45558556

>ビッグウェルカム・ラビュリンス
do they realize how cringe this sounds?

>> No.45558573

Big Wool Cam Labyrinth?

>> No.45558602

welcome

>> No.45558604
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>>45558032
>live action

>> No.45558612

what to watch to cure depression during the xmas time?

>> No.45558616
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45558616

>>45558604

>> No.45558622

the haruhi movie

>> No.45558624

>>45558612
hololive christmas and new years relay

>> No.45558626

>>/jp/thread/21375434#p21377509
didn't age well

>> No.45558628

>>45558329
>until you can find a large scale study identifying an environment that drives iq increases for one twin in a pair when he is subjected to that environment, we will reasonably assume such an environment doesn't exist.
That's not reasonable though because we know about the Flynn effect. Until you can explain it, it's at least as reasonable to assume that not enough environmental factors have been tested to be able to say that no relevant ones exist.
And even putting the Flynn effect aside, what you've said might as well be the equivalent of "I looked all over Europe and found no Australia, so I'll reasonably assume that Australia doesn't exist." To justify your assumption, you need to show that you've covered the space of possible upbringing environments. But it looks like most of the data is like one 1970s US suburb vs another.
>you have nothing more than groundless hypotheses about magical, undiscovered methods of nurture
No, it's grounded in the Flynn effect. And it's actually also the default position regardless with a grounding in biology, given that the biological starting point is: expression = genes + environment.
>I'm sure their vague existence in your imagination is convincing proof to you that all studies to date on the subject are flawed and unconvincing
No, that comes from the fact that their samples look quite biased.

>> No.45558637

you do realize jamal was just pretending to be retarded right

>> No.45558640

>>45558626
i thought i knew the 万
i didnt know the 万

>> No.45558641

>>45558637
jamal post

>> No.45558645

jamal万歳

>> No.45558646

>>45558616
2 3DPDs

>> No.45558652

nothing more soulless than a live action drama based on anime

>> No.45558658
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45558658

so far its okay

>> No.45558660

>>45558032
lets gooooo

>>45558652
turn off your monitor

>> No.45558664

failaids post lil bro

>> No.45558667
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45558667

>you do realize jamal was just pretending to be retarded right

>> No.45558675

>>45557927
>>45558626
we get it you dont have to post it twice

>> No.45558676

i learned to solve a rubik's cube in 30 seconds

>> No.45558685

Today, I have immersed to 6 hours of luilui. Let me guess, you need more?

>> No.45558688

>>45558676
iq?

>> No.45558692

>>45558688
it doesnt take iq, it only takes memorization and practice

>> No.45558694

>>45558685
16 hours immersion, 8 hours sleep

>> No.45558698

>>45558685
gotta cram in 50 hours of immersion in a day

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>>45558694

>> No.45558710
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since i took a nap i'm not the same anymore bros

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45558716

>immersion
ngmi

>> No.45558732

"I dont immerse, I input"
mined this and will be using from now on

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>>45558716

>> No.45558745

>>45558732
there is no differnce

>> No.45558762

>>45558716
gmi

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>> No.45558822

>>45558716
quiz was on the mission to become the true itiban tuyoi gaijin but just a crumb of pussy was enough to nerf this man to the ground

>> No.45558824

>>45558685
any particularly good streams?

>> No.45558834

sheeesh look at my numbers senpai

>> No.45558837
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45558837

is it principled to corrupt the newfags and tourists?

>> No.45558849

>>45558616
why are they so brown? why didnt they get japanese actors instead of south east asian?

>> No.45558851

is 1h a day viable?

>> No.45558852

do you guys mine from h-scenes and MC unvoiced lines?

>> No.45558858

i dont mine i extract

>> No.45558860

>>45558824
biohazard re:2

>> No.45558867

>>45558851
if u want to pass n3 in 10 years yes

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>> No.45558880

>>45558851
yes, N1 in 6+ years

>> No.45558882

>I don’t immerse, I input
>I don’t input, I learn
>I don’t learn, I acquire
>I don’t acquire, I feel
>I don’t feel, I read
>I don’t read, I speak
>I don’t speak, I Anki
>I don’t Anki, I immerse

>> No.45558885

>>45558867
stop saying u its cringe
jamal doesnt care about the jlpt

>> No.45558890

dont listen to nerds who are sunk cost maxing 4 or 5 hrs a day. Live your life as normal and put maybe 2 hrs per day max

>> No.45558891

イマジン イフ アイ ワズ ゲイ

>> No.45558893

>>45558885
Jamal doesn’t care about numbers either.

>> No.45558898

>>45558890
counting hours is a sign of a bad mentality

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>>45558849
its just the lighting
first ep was really good especially the fight scenes

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>> No.45558910

>>45558852
I always mine everything voiced, even h-scenes

>> No.45558913

its possible to be conscious of how long per day you do something

>> No.45558919

immerse no
submerse yes

>> No.45558932

bros aren't autistically counting how many hours they've put into live action, movies, anime vinnies, and manga (pages)?

>> No.45558940

Drench
Overwhelm
Plunge
Submerse
Rape

>> No.45558942

>>45558932
if you dont have a spreadsheet your ngmi

>> No.45558947

immerse no
engross yes

>> No.45558961

what happen to anon who was doing 1k anki reps daily

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>> No.45558973

>>45558913
its still a bad sign that you are thinking about that rather than what you want to consume next which is what you do when you are enjoying yourself

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>> No.45559006

>>45558961
We lost 17 cards guy too

>> No.45559029

i passed a text message my friend sent me into the iq estimator and it gave back 153 (exceptionally gifted) as a result, whereas my own text message only gives an iq of 90

it is unironically over for me isnt it?

>> No.45559034

it feels so bad being stupid, and knowing that i am stupid, because i constantly question every decision i make. i feel like i should find someone who is smarter than me and give them control over my life.

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>>45558973
ok mr psychologist

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45559059

vtubers

>> No.45559068

天才の俺でも日本語ができない
気にすることじゃないさ

>> No.45559079

>>45559048
who is that? i cant tell because her eyes are partially censored

>> No.45559088

>>45559048
im feeling something come over me bros

>> No.45559108

>>45559079
Shigure Ui (-̶9̶-̶さい)

>> No.45559184

えくすぺんだぶるなあたしでも

にほんごができる

なにももんだいはない

>> No.45559246

a song making fun of child molestation getting 80 million views and endorsement from major multinational companies would be outrageous in 2019 and totally unthinkable in 2017

really shows you how much perverted the internet and especially the otaku culture sphere has gotten

>> No.45559257

>>45559246
what is lil bro talking about

>> No.45559264

i think i he got the timelines backward, weird

>> No.45559266

lil bro be skibidi rizzlin the ohio

>> No.45559273

what the absolute fuck does that mean

>> No.45559276

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RggD-BfO8d8&t=158s
even normies love the song

>> No.45559277

bruh on jah be droppin tilted frfr

>> No.45559303

>>45559277
tilted isnt in the game boomer
recently we droppin snooty and heading straigh for schmeter schmiffin
the weapon mods go crazy

>> No.45559309

yoooooooo

>> No.45559310

>>45559276
almost like no one understands japanese

>> No.45559312

chotttttttto

>> No.45559315

self own

>> No.45559324

>>45559310
bro since we got anki everyone knows japanese now

>> No.45559329

>>45559315
lol you sure got him there
so fucking funny like always

>> No.45559340

im back from giving up and "really feeling it this time"

>> No.45559351

im giving up starting on 2024-01-01

>> No.45559352

https://youtu.be/OTKRGt86Y0g

>> No.45559359

why do girls use uchi, they aren't houses

>> No.45559360

how can i reach their level?

>> No.45559364

this is our year bros

>> No.45559365

>>45559359
why do you use 僕 when ur not a slave?

>> No.45559366

do not answer

>> No.45559372

i only use ore and jibun

>> No.45559374

used to have a complex about using boku until i saw jindogg use it

>> No.45559384

i am a slave doe

>> No.45559424

for some reason when a woman (tomboy)((female)) uses boku i am diamonds

>> No.45559430

>>45559359
no they say ushi because they fat cow

>> No.45559451

wtf why didnt you guys tell me about cure dolly sooner i could have been fluent ages ago

>> No.45559459

>>45559451
after knowing like 3k vocab you can pick up all grammar through immersion anyway

>> No.45559465

why do those animals put makeup on 7 year olds

>> No.45559466

>>45559465
thats awful, where?

>> No.45559518

mined
恥垢

>> No.45559527

effortlessly acquired tikou

>> No.45559545

https://youtu.be/1FxDCwMkmCs
how do you celebrate christmas?

>> No.45559553

mined 超越論的観念論 from pekora

>> No.45559554

takin kaku〇zai with the bros

>> No.45559733

possesed jii

>> No.45559855

what is it with about the chinese and being able to absolutely destroy vns at wr speed.

>> No.45559870

having ur entire life of practice speed reading kanjis helps

>> No.45559889

they know about the ctrl key and dont listen to voices

>> No.45559890

>>45555303
Speaking of novels, I was reading this story

https://kakuyomu.jp/works/1177354054890564780

And one of the characters was named Reina who is in universe a Japanese girl (it all takes place in modern Japan).

The author describes her as having silver hair and blue eyes and at first, I was initially thinking of the story as some real life literature about Japan so I was kinda shocked, I was like, "wait, but in Japan they don't really have hair and eyes like that. Is she wearing contact lens and dyed hair? Or is she implied to be of foreign descent?"

It took me about 10 minutes to realize that the story was supposed to be anime-themed and all and not really a Murakami type of real life narration like I thought it was.

I still think it's a very interesting story

>> No.45559904

lots of people get to like n3 level and think they can read manga or light novels for the rest of their lives and progress. I'm sure you can, but if you want to get to n1 as quickly as possible its time to read novels ngmi-senpai

>> No.45559917

whats djt reading atm?
reading tijinnnoai by tanizakijunnitirou

>> No.45559919

moe is the lalo salamanca of djt

>> No.45559933

isn't N1 just teenager level vocab?

>> No.45559945

currently readin よつばと!pretty good deconstruction of modern day philosophy.

>> No.45559982

>>45559933
high school level, if you do anki for 6 months you'd have an n1 vocabulary

>> No.45560007

saying "high school level" is a bit misleading any majime na tyuusotu will know more than 15k odd words that n1 has

>> No.45560022

i just know all the words

>> No.45560048

>>45559545
https://youtu.be/rfrCiAhyD3s?=74

>> No.45560058

shiet timestamp didnt work 1:14

>> No.45560063

>>45560007
yeah but that took them an entire school life to learn, japs are inefficient at even learning their own language

>> No.45560069

まだN5級になってないのに
勘弁してくれよ

>> No.45560073

actually, the japs are just too lazy to move away from their ancient & inefficient writing system. Even most japs hate kanji

>> No.45560081

ok mccarthy

>> No.45560087

my seed will restore japan

>> No.45560089

america succeeded at nuking Japan but not the japanese language, it's an l if you ask me

>> No.45560097

nothing another few nukes cant fix

>> No.45560138

kanon https://sp.live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv343757335

>> No.45560145

fsrs is a cope right, like there's people actually telling beginners to "set" their retention at 90% and let fsrs do the rest, how is that even possible? it's a placebo for sure

>> No.45560149

everything outside of more immersion is basically a cope

>> No.45560150

>>45560149
bro anki is 30 minutes, you're not gonna learn anything comparatively to anki in those 30 minutes.

>> No.45560151

>>45560145
if user is hitting over 90%, make reviews slightly less frequent. if under, make reviews slightly more frequent

>> No.45560156

1 doujin is like 1 hour of anki tho

>> No.45560158

>>45560149
true true
>>45560150
anki is a complement to all the other stuff you do and nothing more than that

>> No.45560159

>>45560150
if you comprehended my post as "anki is pointless" then you're ngmi because even your English comprehension is terrible.

>> No.45560162

i will read 10,000 mcdonalds ads to become fluent

>> No.45560163

anki is for midwits if ur low iq u dont do anki bc its boring if ur high iq u dont do anki bc u dont need it as for me i fall in the former catagory would rather read a book than do that dumb anki shit lol

>> No.45560172

>>45560159
can you really blame me when there's people who who can't do 30 minutes of flash cards but want people to believe they're going to read for several hours a day?

>> No.45560179

anki is just another one big filter
if u know japanes eu know what im talking abotu

>> No.45560181

>>45560172
this makes sense for people that want to read or watch anything, which is most people
also mattbros?
https://youtube.com/watch?v=PbQerKaxs9s&pp=ygUWY29tcHJlaGVuc2l2ZSBqYXBhbmVzZQ%3D%3D

>> No.45560183

>>45560163
stfu man

>> No.45560188

140+ here i use anki but only for rare words that i almost never see in the wild such as 吝嗇 龕燈 靉靆 膕 荏苒 and so on

>> No.45560197

>>45560183
huh?
also lol 140iq thinks keti is rare nice self own ydkj

>> No.45560198

Anki is fine if you use it for remembering words you just acquired though, or if you do frequency based decks past usefulness

>> No.45560202

nukes cant fix japan only なかだし

>> No.45560206

>>45560058
of course because you fucked up the ?t

>> No.45560207

it is rare with that ateji but the one in my deck is rinshoku

>> No.45560215

I can't wait for the year 2079 when official law gets passed to replace all kanji words for English katakana equivalents

>> No.45560219

150+ here i shit on flash tards

>> No.45560222

fairs i always read it as keti since ive never heard rinsyoku said and i already knew keti b4 i saw the kanji

>> No.45560230

130 and i dunno what works i just do stuff

>> No.45560266

140s don't unironically say "140+ here"

>> No.45560267

鷹嶺ルイ

>> No.45560310

あれ
    と
よつば&!

じゃなかったっけ

きおくちがいかなあ

>> No.45560314

>60 posts filtered this thread
bottom 8%

>> No.45560322

now that the dust has settled what do we think about doth and jazzy?

>> No.45560341

i dont think of them

>> No.45560345

dont care about either of them im probably better than both of them will ever be but i all i know is they both reek of midwit

>> No.45560351

we know jazzy was definitely a fraud because he isnt high iq

>> No.45560364

we don't dare think of them. they mog all of us. all we can do is kneel

>> No.45560371

haven't been here in years what's doth jazzy?

>> No.45560379

>>45560371
pisscorders who claim to have spedrun japanese, second one is a fraud

>> No.45560387

>>45560371
doth is a guy who passed n1 in 1.5 years, did an undergrad in japan with a full scholarship and now works as a consultant in japan
jazzy is a guy who got a full score on n1 in 8 months and an oxbridge physics student

>> No.45560388

>>45560163
>high iq means you do something thats both boring and not necessary for your life
average brainwashed "no pain no gain" enjoyer
i bet you also exercise despite sv3rige debunking all that shit lel

>> No.45560397

>>45560387
>full score on n1 in 8 months
you have to be a 110er to believe that

>> No.45560398

>>45560388
can u read english lol i said that high iqs dont do it only midwits do

>> No.45560406

jizzy was a fraud and the true high iqs like moe agree with me

>> No.45560405

you know hes good when his achievements are literally unfathomable to low iqs

>> No.45560408

>>45560387
oh they sound really smart. they must have a lot of published scientific papers or accomplishments.

>> No.45560412

>>45560398
lilbro im saying "its boring" is a high iq reason not to do anki if youre learning it recreationally

>> No.45560413

don't forget that jazzy is also an amateur boxer and looks like le epic chad meme

>> No.45560420

>>45560405
okay so maybe he is around 130, we have multiple people over 130 in the thread and i doubt any of them believe him

>> No.45560423

this obsession with iq is proof that this entire thread is filled with narcissistic retards who only learn japanese to impress people

>> No.45560428

apparently he recommended just immersing, not using specific studying materials. the n1 has a lot of esoteric nonsense you won't learn from just immersion though. you could probably pass but not with full scores.

>> No.45560433

nani? why would someone want to teach you "estoeric japanese" that you will never encounter yourself

>> No.45560434

>>45560428
yeah at least doth is believable because he didnt say he got a perfect score. omly 119 iq retards like anal guy are convinced

>> No.45560438

>>45560423
90% are below 130 tho i wouldnt call that narcissism

>> No.45560442

stop proving my point

>> No.45560446

>>45560442
im 125 and i accept that is not high iq bro

>> No.45560452

>>45560412
fairs didnt understand what u were sayin at first but u see just coz someones got a higher number doesnt mean they have more smarts
dunno im only a 98 but would say that in most things in life im better equipped bc i dont carry the same sort of inferiority complex and other baggage that comes with midwittery

>> No.45560454

it doesnt matter if youre 90 iq or 140 iq youre still obsessed with iqs when you should be obsessed with stuff that you can change like your japanese skills

>> No.45560455

>>45560428
definitely not the case, i also never studied for the jlpt and passed n1 with something like 176/180. not in 8 months though obviously

>> No.45560459

i am enjoying learning japanese

>> No.45560464

i dont believe u

>> No.45560468

>>45560454
>learn japanese
>life doesn't change

>> No.45560471

>>45560454
what you feel like doing is set by your personality which is set by your genes much like iq

>> No.45560476

>enjoying learning japanese
heh, how cute
for some of us this is srsbznz, like scamming n5s with retarded courses that teach you dumb shit

>> No.45560485

yeah matt debunked motivation issues. the people who succeed tend to win their first time and the losers tend to keep failing

>> No.45560487

after +120 hours I can say I'm enjoying it a bit...

>> No.45560488

>>45560485
this

>> No.45560496

https://streamable.com/69qmn0

>> No.45560497

follow up studies on the marshmallow test showed people who are more disciplined don't have more willpower, they literally feel temptation and distraction less often. motivation is genetic

>> No.45560506

>>45559904
So basically you're saying that writing fanfiction in Japanese requires an N1 level of proficiency and being able to effortlessly read Japanese "classical literature" (whatever that means because there's a LOT of it starting with stuff like the ancient Monogataris/Kojiki/Manyoushu and ending with Haruki Murakami and in more modern times, stuff like Sword Art Online).

A fair assessment.

Back to the grindhouse I go then

>> No.45560507

bro matto is truly soulless

>> No.45560508

>motivation is genetic
true true
i often self-induce motivation by getting scolded by my tulpa for not learning

>> No.45560516

i feel bad for qm for trying so hard beating himself into grinding japanese when he hated it, he was fighting against nature's flow he just wasn't born to make it

>> No.45560519

would gladly trade 10cm of height for 10 iq points (i would still be 183cm)

>> No.45560523

wouldnt trade a millimeter of the body god gave me

>> No.45560526

shorter people live longer since your metabolic rate is lower, meaning youre doing yourself a favor anyway
not a good trade for the devil

>> No.45560531

pretty sure thats just manlet cope

>> No.45560535

jesus christ matt really has no soul

>> No.45560537

you wont live for long lilbro
might as well enjoy your tall life

>> No.45560539

>>45560516
dont feel bad in the slightest for that ironic weeb piece of shit

>> No.45560542

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2709415/

>> No.45560547

i wish i was shorter so i could live longer

>> No.45560552

Manlets live longer in order to suffer more

>> No.45560556

>>45560542
>female authors
discarded

>> No.45560557

im fat and smoke so ill be dead at 40 anyway, but at least ill be able to read loli ero

>> No.45560571

>>45560542
manlet bros i dont feel so good

>> No.45560572

長生きできても人権がない

>> No.45560576

>>45560413
I looked it up, he doesn't look like the gigachad meme.

>> No.45560600

>>45560571
it's 大丈夫- I mean, ignore that

>> No.45560613

>>45560557
lilbro read up on winston churchill's age
as long as you eat a high-fat diet your ass fine (cholesterol is very good for you, every single cell in your body is made out of saturated fat)

>> No.45560620

i work from home as a swe so im immersing like 9 hours a day. am i gmi bros?

>> No.45560628

>>45560613
yeah, the secret cardiologists don't tell you is that cholesterol problems are genetic, not caused by diet

>> No.45560640

age and health is mostly genes churchill just had good dna obviously

>> No.45560657

>>45560557
favorite tags?

>> No.45560660

>>45560628
hong kong has the highest meat consumption in the world and also the highest life expectancy in the world

you have to be utterly brainwashed by soience to think that the food you are naturally drawn to (meat and fat) is bad for you, and food that you are naturally repulsed by (vegetables) is good for you

>> No.45560662

im naturally repulsed by meat

>> No.45560667

get your t levels checked lil bro that aint right

>> No.45560674

>naturally
lilbro youre brainwashed

give a little kid who hasnt been programmed some raw butter and minced raw meat, he will stuff it down like theres no tomorrow

give the same little kid raw broccoli and he will start vomitting while the food is still in his throat

>> No.45560680

austrian guy going hard on the propaganda

>> No.45560684

unfortunately vegan propaganda exists outside of austria

>> No.45560685

love broccoli and other veggies
love meat
love fat
love rice
hate fruits
hate bread
simple as

>> No.45560692

>love broccoli and other veggies
>hate fruits
you have been programmed, man
veggies are not just unnatural but also not even needed
the only thing im gonna say is that if it works for you, then dont let me change your diet
but how can you hate fruits in general, unsalted skinless cucumber is super neutral and my favorite snack

>> No.45560696

just do both anki and reading. retards here acting like anki is a replacement

>> No.45560697

hello my friends.
this will be my last post in DJT for the next 6 months, im officially going AJATT. The last 4-5 months have been fun and hopefully ill see you all on the other side.

>> No.45560698

>>45560674
give a child a cup of milk and a cup of chocolate milk and he will pick chocolate milk every time
americans obesity grew several fold because americans exclusively consumed foods they were naturally drawn to

>> No.45560699

see you tomorrow

>> No.45560705

>>45560674
true true
>>45560698
lil bro?

>> No.45560710

>>45560698
chocolate milk is not a natural food lilbro

>> No.45560726

>>45560710
cocoa and milk are both natural

>> No.45560733

a human kid would never even dare touch raw cocoa
and lilbro, aint no way you think all that extracted sugar is naturally found in the cocoa plant

>> No.45560745

americans are obese because they are force fed industrialized and processed food all their lives, and we all know who is responsible for that
we are not allowed to talk about them here though

>> No.45560747

true true

>> No.45560760

recently went into a dollar tree because thru kuchikomi I heard it had good snacks. I walked in and its full of lowest denominator processed inedible garbage and walked out without buying anything.

>> No.45560780

>>45560692
>>45560516
Well the way I see it, in linguistics, the natural state of things is to be monolingual and semi literate, that is, if you just consume information "in a natural way".

Learning a foreign language always implies some level of artificialness and a lot of effort.

The question is how you approach the learning process.

Worrying about shit like "naturality" in these affairs is the most utterly pointless statement I have ever seen.

The more proficient you get, the clearer the psychological "metadiscourse" of Japanese (or any other language) becomes. Is it artificial? Yeah but it never would have been a so called "natural" one unless you were born in Japan and exposed to the JP speaking environment in an actual Japanese school etc in the first place.

The goal is to strive to match the "natural language", i.e. the way an intelligent and a highly literate idealized native Japanese would convey information in the Japanese language and related cultural codes.

And striving for the ideal is undoubtedly a good thing.

>> No.45560786

what eating broccoli does to a mf

>> No.45560787

>>45560698
>>45560745
why do third world fatties always talk about "american obesity" when there are many countries fatter and about as fat as america?

>> No.45560790

>>45560572
どくりつこくになりたい

>> No.45560794

>>45560787
because the jews are everywhere and have everyone everywhere tricked

>> No.45560798

does america have any popular french fast food joints?
no

does the rest of the world have very popular american fast food joints?
absolutely yes

>> No.45560801

oh no lil bro said the forbidden word...

>> No.45560804

what are french fries

>> No.45560806

psure they called pommes frites

>> No.45560811

>>45560804
this *unzips*

>> No.45560822

>>45560811
>>45560806
>>45560804
>>45560801
>>45560798
>>45560794
>>45560790
>>45560787
>>45560786
>>45560780
>>45560760
>>45560747
>>45560745
>>45560733
>>45560726
>>45560710
>>45560705
>>45560699
>>45560698
>>45560697
>>45560696
>>45560692
>>45560685
>>45560684
>>45560680
stfu

>> No.45560823

thx for the yous

>> No.45560825

all me

>> No.45560836

they're talking about us in tmw...

>> No.45560839
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45560839

what are the implications of japan getting fatter, will it become easier to learn Jap?

>> No.45560909

>>45560836
what are they saying

>> No.45560914

they are laughing at jamel i bet

>> No.45560945

i wish quiz was here to witness this epic djt thread

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45560958

>>45560945
why?

>> No.45560960

just downloaded park toucher fantasy mako, am i understanding it right that there are two versions, one of which where he denies he is a pedophile and one of which he blatantly admits he loves 3d children

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45560961

>>45560836
what's tmw?

>> No.45560963

>>45560960
and by versions i mean choice

>> No.45560972

>>45560961
https://learnjapanese.moe/join/

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>>45560972
>discord
wtf

>> No.45560980

sekkaku
isidan
kata
batta
man

>> No.45560981

>>45560958
bros she's so cute

>> No.45560987

what was the sekkaku one again? sekkaku oboeta nihongo?

>> No.45561006

yep

>> No.45561019

>>45560697
good luck bro

>> No.45561030

>>45560961
bros dont reverse search this image

>> No.45561052

didnt notice anything

>> No.45561069

matto told me to give up so im giving up

>> No.45561079

GMI

>> No.45561081

lol

>> No.45561332

>>45560987
An adverb meaning (to do something) at great pains or with great difficulty. It expresses one has worked hard for something or acted deliberately to achieve it.

>> No.45561421

>>45561069
nah dont give up
gambatte or whatever do it for the manko pubes or however

>> No.45561432

shoui having a public meltdown, you hate to see it

>> No.45561487

ayo someone make the new thread i have a question

>> No.45561502

>>45561500
>>45561500
>>45561500

>> No.45561591

shoui is beating your asses lil bros

>> No.45562044

>>45559108
>救済のレクイエム
>9歳のレクイエム

>> No.45562724

>>45560787
there aren't. there are like 10 countries above it in the obesity ranking and most of them are fake island micronations

>> No.45564714

shits fucking dead in here

>> No.45565471 [DELETED] 

>>45562724
>about as fat
learn english before japanese. and there are several fatter.
>wow my country's average bmi is 1 lower than america
>that makes me superior even though i'm worthless :DDD

>> No.45565477

>>45562724
>about as fat
learn english before japanese. and there are several fatter.
>wow my country's average bmi is 1 lower than america
>that makes me superior even though i'm worthless :DDD
the point, retard, is that "american obesity" isn't anything special. more than half of the countries in the world already have an average bmi above 25.

>> No.45565527

wow pretty cool that djt died the natural way sometimes you cant put your dog down just wait for him to choke on a biscuit

>> No.45565592

>>45565477
ALL other countries with >40% obesity rate are microstates under 300 thousand inhabitants. the next country with over 50 million people after the US is Turkey and the difference is significant (US 41.9% obese vs Turkey 32.1% obese). the first fully European country (the UK) is at 27.8%. so you're wrong. and you're fat

>> No.45565604 [DELETED] 

>>45565592
Who asked, retard?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_by_body_mass_index

>> No.45565619

>>45565592
Who asked, retard?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_by_body_mass_index

You're a low IQ shitskin subhuman failure and whether a country has 1 bmi on average than the country you live in won't change that fact.

>> No.45565637

>>45565592
>country with over 50 million people
aka 15% of countries? retarded shitskin.

>> No.45565643

>>45565619
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_obesity_rate
ugu ugu fat american cry

>> No.45565657

>>45565527
been trying to figure out what your false equivalency is trying to say for a while now
are you for or against creating new threads before the old ones die

>> No.45565659

>>45565643
I already linked you the facts you ugly shitskin. There are many countries within 1 or 2 BMI of America. Over half the countries in the world have over 25 BMI. The internet needs an IQ test so shitskins like you would be blocked from it. You are worthless and will never accomplish anything, so stop masturbating over statistics you're too stupid to understand.

>> No.45565700

>>45565659
cope. us obesity rate: 42, austria obesity rate: 20, poland obesity rate: 23, japan obesity rate: 4

>> No.45565708

>>45565700
>austria
>poland
Remember, those don't count since they have under 50 million population, retarded shitskin? shitskin IQ: 70

>> No.45565730

keep projecting fat

>> No.45565733

keep making excuses for why your shitskin country is poor. keep blaming "muh colonialism", "muh wypipo muhfugga" and trying to get a "win" to make up for your pathethic life.

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