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Ahh fucked up the last spoiler. Game is symphonic rain, although I guess it says that in the picture.

I find it funny how lise's bad end is better than the "good end."

>>4542781
You never see what happens to her after you leave. Although I guess anything is better then the "good end". She probably just got throat raped or something.

Fal's end could arguably be called a happy end, though Ari probably still dies in it. But it's certainly happier than the other two Da Capo ends.

God level troll.

>>4542821
Fal is going to dump him the moment she finds a better fortellist or if he ever choose or has to stop.

>>4542820
At first I thought, God damn what a good girl. Lol silly asino you have a crush on her. Huh..Wait..Why Did you barge in, in the middle of the night. This obviously means you had some kind of intimate realtionship. Huh what is this you are telling me? The fuck? Fuck you, lets have angry fucking hate sex now.
The end.
Ya. Good end. Right.

>>4542838
Well, at least she sticks with him. Torta's end just winds up with Chris alone, and Torta miserable (considering when you make the same choice in Al Fine, how that turns out...) and Lise's is obviously not a situation that could be considered good.

Speaking of Lise, do you guys think when Torta asks Chris in her ending whether his spending so much time with Lise is some kind of atonement, if she is actually referring to Chris atoning for Ari? He forgot what happened to her, and left her alone for three years until she eventually died, so he decides to devote his remaining time to Lise, who is in a somewhat similar situation.

>>4542868
Yea. Pretty sure that is obviously what Tortinita was implying when she said that. Although you wouldn't have been able to piece that together until much later. Also
At the end of Fal's route she says she wants to go with you to visit Ari. She fucking knows Ari is dead or atleast in a hospitable bed, Torta told her. Fucking cunt wants to fuck you up even more so you play even better.

>>4542821
She will drive you to be miserable every day so you can play better.

>>4542838

>>4542893
Actually, I took that as a sort of kindness on her part. I just kind of took it as her wanting to show Chris the truth, so he could finally move on and whatnot.

>>4542908
Chris didn't really seem miserable in the epilogue, did he? Well, honestly I don't remember that well, but at least it didn't seem like it at the time.

Oh, also, what was that Password: Kitchen Knife or whatever about? I expected I'd see a choice or something related to that to get Phorni's route, but there did not seem to be any

>>4542937
More like he was so broken he had nothing left. The rain was gone anyway, so whatever.
>>4542924
Sort of but
>fal
>kindness
Choose 1

>>4542981
Torta told her about it pretty early on.

One thing about Lise's route I don't understand is How little she reacted to Chris thinking it was raining all the time. I mean, Torta and Fal knew about it so them playing along makes sense, But I can't think of anything in Lise's route where she thought it was weird with Chris buying her an umbrella and drying himself every time he got in the room.

I may just be missing something though, did anyone else spot anything like that in her route?

>>4542981
At one point torta takes her aside and explains it to her. But I think the stuff you mentioned happened before as well...So I don't know. Lise was already somewhat fucked in the head, maybe she just didn't feel right asking at the start since she was so shy.

>>4542975
>Choose 1
Read again. You didn't understand Fal.

>>4542999
>>4542985


Ah, I remember that scene now, thanks guys!

Fal's song was pretty nice though.

>>4543066
Her ending song is superior.

>>4543066

I'm not a huge fan of her recital song just because that style isn't my thing. I really like her ending song though.

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Can't help thinking about Yuno when Fal does her wideface.

>>4543183
what the fuck, man

For those who have finished Al Fine, there's a new option in Torta's route after the recital so that you can get the Al Fine end. I plan on replaying it to see everything through Chris's eyes now that I know what is really going on.

Teehee.

>>4543293

Most adorable scene in the whole novel. D'awwwwwwww.

>>4543208

Thanks for the info, didn't know about that

>>4543373
Why do the cute ones always get Brutally beaten and forced to be hospitalized for an undetermined period of time.
Oh right. Because Chris gave her the confidence to do it. Good job, asshole.

>>4542937
He looked kinda lifeless in the epilogue.

>>4543208
Thanks for the heads up, I guess I'll replay her route.

I think Fal truly wanted the protagonist to accept her true self. I mean look at her ending lyrics.

I refuse to believe she wants the protagonist filled with sorrow so his music sounds better. That's pretty heartless. ;_;

>>4543598
The lyrics are foreshadowing after all
If you pay attention to her lyrics her whole route is spoiled, but I agree, the whole: my true self is before you, thing. She wanted to be accepted for what she was

>>4543598

While she may have wanted to simply be accepted as her true self, she went way above and beyond that. Inviting Asino over was one thing, but she continued to egg him on.

Speaking of lyrics, if you look at the opening and ending lyrics I can't see how anyone can make a case that Phorni's route isn't the true end. It's obviously talking about Phorni & Ari.

What is the drink that she likes/chris makes her? I want to make it. Was it espresso and milk? Was there chocolate or something in it?

>>4543874
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_chocolate

Cioccolata calda in italian.

>>4543874
ciocolatta is also italian for chocolate,basically hot chocolate

>>4543893
>>4543902
Ah...That is much more boring than I thought.

>>4543912
you can add almonds or something, maube saffron, make it lighter with milk
just be creative, but I thought it was evident

So I just finished all of the three regular routes. I start a route every new day so how do I get into the unlocked routes?

>>4543961

Just click 'start game' and you will know

>>4543961

If you've gotten the first 3 good endings (check the Album), then there should be a new choice when you select "Game Start" to go to "Al Fine".

>>4543961
After the three regular routes start a new game, you should be able to choose "al fine". Play that. After that start a new De capo game and ignore everyone possible to get on Phorni's route.

This was the first VN I played without a walkthough, it was pretty easy. Expect lise's bad end...couldn't figure it out until I looked it up.

>>4544020
>>4544012
Oh, I should of just played it instead of asking a dumb question.

>>4544043
>should of
Learn English.

Where is my twincest end? ;_;

Finally, a thread where people agree with my opinion of Fal.

Poor Asino... at least Chris gets sex in exchange for being manipulated

I wonder what became of Torta at the end of Phorni's route. Poor girl.

>>4544232
She bought a Chris doll to hug on the long, cold and lonely nights she'll spend watching Ari and Chris' happiness from afar.

>>4544231
Who knows, maybe he did.
I mean, it doesn't look like it was Fal's first time when Chris fucked her.

>>4544232
Well at least she got some closure and can now move on. But yeah I feel pretty bad for her.

But Phorni is really the best match for Chris. If you look at all the other heroines lyrics they're all talking about their own problem and themselves, while Phorni's song is all about wishing happiness for Chris.

>>4544298


"I'm Always Close to You" really is the most beautiful of the songs once you've played her route and read the lyrics.

Left or right, /jp/?

I'd buy this in a heartbeat.

Best minigame ever.

>>4544647
What? Where is this?

>>4544616
dat face. uguu~

>>4544572

Left. Arietta is the only one in my heart.

>>4544669
On the disk under the folder dpc_plus. Run the .exe and see these extras.

>>4544689
>disk
Ahh...deleted it..

>>4542974
The password is to download Phorni's version of the op from their website. But you also have to register to do it so yeah.

>>4544797
Do want.

>>4544797
same, also want.

>>4544572
Left.

Ari is my only girl

Does anyone have a ddl link for the Symphonic Rain DPC disc image? All I can find are rips. ;__;

>>4545032
I don't think it's a disc. It's just a folder on my ISO. Download it again from VDZ's ftp, it shouldn't take too long.

Hmm
http://vndb.org/r399
>Has the same game contents as Collector's Edition and includes seven original after-stories in HTML format.
Anyone have those after stories?

>>4545206
Fuck. Thanks for the tip, bro.
All this while I thought it was a separate disc thing, when it was already included in the special edition game disc.

>>4545218
There's four in that aforementioned dpc_plus folder. They were summarized in the previous Symphonic Rain thread, but the translator said earlier he wouldn't mind translating those too if someone can tinker with macromedia flash.

>>4545218
So four of them are already included in the Digital Plus Collection but there are three more.

「三人目のマリア」 　（エンジェルアソート3収録）
「猫と妖精と、時々雨」 　（同名出版物）
「こんな空の下で」 　（同名出版物）

Anyone have a link for those?

http://www.mediafire.com/?zouzkjydzzw
Phorni version of the op. Just extract to the Song folder. Still in Japanese, but that shouldn't matter.

>>4547106
thank you kind anon

>>4547106
can't get it to work

>>4547150
Really? All I had to do was extract it to the folder with all the other SRXX files and it was listed near the end.
You also have to have cleared at least the first three endings or it won't show up.

>>4547236
Yep I have it sitting there. Beat the game, but it isn't showing up.

I'm not going to read this thread so I don't get any spoilers, but I've got a question.

I've played about half (I'm assuming) of Fal's route and I hate it. Does it pick up, or is it just "Look at me, I'm a perfect student, blah blah blah slice of life" the whole way? Are the other routes better?

God damn, I was hoping for a character like the Class Prez from YMK. How wrong I was.

>>4547288
Just finish it, it's required to unlock the other routes anyway.

>>4547288
At least finish one route before judging it. But personally I thought Fal's route was the weakest.

Best End

>>4547255
Not him but I tried it and it worked for me.
I extracted it to \KOGADO\SRTE\Song folder.

Maybe something's wrong with you installation?

on Al Fine route, shitting bricks

Hey, I just installed this game but no text shows up. Any idea what went wrong?

>>4547527
It isn't added properly to the registry. Search on 'regedit' in the archive where I explained a few times what to do in that case.

>>4547534
Thanks, fixed it right up

Whenever I see a thread on Symphonic Rain, I keep saying to myself that I'll play this soon, but then I can't bring myself to play it for some reason when I do want to.

What's wrong with me guys? ;_;

>>4548328
you are missing out, play it

>>4548328
To be honest the first 3 routes are kinda meh but it's totally worth it for the last 2.

>>4548616
How is da capo route? I don't really feel like playing anymore after playing al fine.

>>4548622
There is no da capo route. that's just the name of the side where you play as Chris.

That said, Phorni's route is totally worth it, go play it.

>>4548653
How do I get it?

>>4548660
Try ignoring the girls and concentrate on composing your own piece and going home early. Or just use the walkthrough.

>>4547501
>Maybe something's wrong with you installation?
This I guess. I'm using vista 64 which might be a problem, I doubted.

Whatever...no phorni op for me ;_;

>>4549570
D-Damn... poor Asino.

>>4549582
When Fal said Asino was using you I felt conflicted, at first I was like fuck you asino, but it wasn't his fault. Both chris and asino were seduced by fal even if asino said he was just using you I still think he really cares. He is pretty bro in the other routes, and his theme is nice.
I was in a situation before where me and my friend both liked the same girl and it screwed up our friendship because I was a jerk to him after I had the girl. I can see why asino did what he did and he totally regretted it afterwards. I hate when games remind me of my disgusting 3d reality.

>>4549752
Asino is a bro.
Bros before hoes.

Fal isn't worth it anyway.
Nonvirgin sluts aren't worth it.

I've got an opportunity to get this really cheap (like 10$), worth it?

>>4551228
I think so.

>>4551228

Absolutely, go for it.

>>4551228
Why does she have a basket with her?

>>4552191
She baked you bread. Delicious bread.

most badass character ever or most badass character ever?

>>4552202
The bread is a lie.

>>4552223

Misfire, huh?

Also, I'm quite disappointed 7 didn't come out for the 10th anniversary.

>>4552814
dawww

>>4552814

So do we know who this is?

>>4552868
Phorni with her hair down?

I just adore torta's voice

Sing for me bitch

>>4552990
All their voices are ear love. Rightfully so since that is...the point of the game. I like Phorni's the best.

>>4553008
Well, I think torta sucks at singing - she doesnt sound "professional" but just the tone of her voice makes me happy

>>4547106
This needs to be turned into .mp3
The song is beautiful in phorni's voice, thanks for sharing bro.

Is this fully translated now?

>>4553171
I'd like this since I can't get that file to work for whatever reason.

I need my own ;_;

>>4553347
Duuuuuudeeeeeeeee

>>4553171
The vocal album has Phorni's OP version (reposting from easymodo) http://www.megaupload.com/?d=K9DOOOQS

>>4553397
RAINBOW? Doesn't that have the Ritzuko Okazaki Ver.?

>>4553445
Nope, Ritsuko's version is in FOR RITZ.

;__;

>>4553397
Hiroko Kasahara is Phorni right? If so she only has one song in the vocal album, the left is the one you linked the right is another one I had.

>>4553469
Forgot my pic.

>>4553347
;___;

>>4553476
But isn't "I'm always close to you" sung by Phorni in the Vocal Album?
...Okay, now I'm confused.

>>4553555

Yes, she does. She has her two songs. Her versions of "The Other Side of the Sky" or "Even When Crying" are not in Rainbow though.

>>4553555
I just listen to it in game, phorni version, and the vocal album side by side....they sound like exactly the same. So ....pic related.

>>4553620
Ya. So I need to get those songs in mp3 form. Alright internet, I will find you if you exist.

>>4553620
It's kind of hard to see because of the low-quality scans, but both "The Other Side of the Sky" and "Even When Crying" are sung by Phorni. As well as "I'm Always Close to You." Your version was just incorrectly tagged.

>>4553895
So much conflicting information. Alright I think you are right going on the voices, thanks. I'll keep looking for the 2 missing songs.

>>4553895
So much conflicting information. Alright I think you are right going on the voices, thanks.

I should've guessed /jp/ would hate Fal. She was actually my favorite heroine. Too bad her route wasn't very good until her true nature was revealed and then it ended soon after. One of the few times I thought a VN route ended too soon.

Overall the game was pretty good but I guess I allowed myself to get too hyped for it because it didn't meet my expectations.

>>4556535
Ahhhh Fal looks horrible in this.

>>4553189
Been fully translated for a long time. It has a second beta that is actually playable now, though.

>>4556646
I liked Fal too. Her route is the greatest way for Chris to move on with his life.

bump

Lise's good end was so fucking miserable. I found it to be more depressing than the bad ends in most other VNs.

>>4557135
No its not, unless your idea of moving on is to put Chris in constant sorrow.

>>4559926
Except he was happy in her end.

>>4560090
happy ≠ broken beyond repair.

Just finished it today
my favourite route was definetely Phorni's route, it's really a sweet route, i was actually nervous because I didn't know if the audience would hear her, also the last scene was really good
I only disliked one route, torta's and al fine, her love just seemed too strange, she was like... devoid of emotions, only 'I love you', I didn't really like her personality, too strange

>>4560805
How exactly was he "broken beyond repair"?

>>4560845
Strange? I thought it was really well done. Her love was strange because Chris was in love with her sister, even though she was more or less dead. If torta took chris away she would be doing injustice to her sister and depressing the hell out of chris. She is just a coward who can't get her feelings in order. I liked it.

>>4560883
what I meant with strange it was more of what I would expect of a stalker, she just seemed too obsessed with him, too much even by her standards,
it felt like she wanted to win over Arietta, because despise her being in a coma, she still couldn't have Chris
I just couldn't bring myself to like her, I waas expecting FAlsita because of her name and Lise's route was good, but Torta's felt a bit...

>>4560902
Come on she wasn't a stalker. She LET chris have fal or lise if he chose of his own free will to do so. She even told them what was up with chris. She just didn't think it would be right for chris to choose her, but wouldn't mind if chris chose her of his own free will. But that was problem, she felt like she was pushing him to her because of her fake letters, so she felt like chris. Execpt in de capo we know that is not the case.

Anon who posted: http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/jp/thread/S4512335#p4515253 here.

I finished the game. And I loved it, really.

But should I feel particularly smart for finding this out during the first route I played, after three letters? Wehn did you guys find out about it? Because, even without being sure, Torta's route made it painfully obvious to me. Now, I don't think it was meant to be hidden all along, right?

>>4560916
I'm just saying she FELT like one during her route, the kind of love she had

>>4560917
I started to guess it around the end of the route, but I wasn't sure. I had no idea the rain was fake though.

>>4560930
The rain definitely took me by surprise as well, even though it didn't hold that much weight in the plot.

>>4560917
I had suspicions about the twin shenanigans during my first route, and it just became more obvious with each route. Same with Phorni being Ari, though I wasn't sure what happened to Ari. For some reason I didn't think of her being in a coma even though that development has been used in a few other VNs.

The only twist that surprised me was the rain, but that would've been hard to predict even if looking back there were a few hints. The way they revealed it wasn't very brickshitting though. It just made me go "What?"

>>4560917
Nah, that's pretty easy to catch on.
That's why it's revealed immediately at the start of Al Fine.

I was surprised by the rain and the amount of effort Torta did. She's too obsessed with Chris that it's unhealthy.

So, how am I supposed to play "I'm always close to you"?
The tears keep clouding my vision, I can't play like that.

>>4553347
You will never be awoken by a sprite of music who wishes to sing songs with you. ;_;

Anyone knows where to get the 2007 rerelease of Symphonic Rain?
It has apparently 3 more sidestories.

Why is Rain Musique so fucking hard to play? fsfsfskfsfskfsfsk

>>4565330
You shouldn't really have many problems with it anymore after at least halfway through her route, the hard looking parts are actually pretty easy once you take a good look at how they go.

>>4565330
Yeah that part always rapes me. Luckily there's that part toward the end where you can recover your meter easily.

>>4565330
I just put the game to autoplay on her route ^-^;;

>>4565330

Try playing it on easy, even if you miss half of the notes (while on easy you already can ignore as and l; ones), you will still pass.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXgJi3AqANw

What?

>>4567012
Oh wow, how did they do that?
Didn't know you could add custom songs in this game.

Am I the only one that didn't enjoy the gameplay?
I find it too hard, even on easy so I played the game with autoplay set to on.

>>4567804
I found the gameplay fun. I just wish there were a harder difficulty.

>>4567804
You must be kidding. I needed like 5 minutes to get used to the normal dmode, and found it pretty easy. I haven't tried hard, though. Now, I don't think this has anything to do with me playing piano, has it?

>>4567804
You must be kidding. I needed like 5 minutes to get used to the normal mode, and found it pretty easy. I haven't tried hard, though. Now, I don't think this has anything to do with me playing piano, has it?

>>4567853
I'm an idiot then.
No really, I found it really hard. It's too confusing to find which keys to press and the notes move too fast.

>>4567879
I was the same, the only song i can play well is the first one, the rest are just auto

>>4567804
No, I gave up on it after 5 tries (I got 0 talent in this). I just decided to put it on auto and read the lyrics instead. Still loved the game regardless of this.

I can't seriously be the only person playing hard mode here.

>>4567879
Well. I hope you are playing with four fingers of your left hand on ASDF and four fingers of your right hand on JKL;

It's a piece of cake, even if you aren't really good, all the songs have at least two D K D K D K D K etc bits where you can gather all the points you need.

>>4566405
Yeah, I can pass it now with about 20k points on normal or hard. But it was complete hell to learn, as I had to develop a different strategy for that fsfsk section. What bothers me is that hard really isn't any harder, it just expands the keys you use.

>>4567946
Using the entire keyboard is probably the only step up in difficulty they could do. It's not like they could have just added in extra notes for the hell of it.

>>4567988
Usually, that's the point of making a harder difficulty in a rythme game. You add notes, making the song more enjoyable, but harder to play.

>>4567998
But then they'd have to pull notes from somewhere that's not the melody line, and that just gets confusing when mixed. Since they're already pretty much filled out the main melody even in normal/easy mode, it'd be hard for them to add any more without making it awkward.

>>4568031
That's not how music works.

>>4568111
It's how rhythm games work.

>>4568152
Check Gitarooman, my friend, and see how Hard mode songs are more beautiful/complete because they add notes. Well, you can check Ouendan as well, because it's the same.

>>4568288
>>4568288
>>4568288
>>4568288

After reading the first sidestory, I like Ari more than before.
She definitely deserves to live.

>>4568446
I agree. She's so awesome. ;_;

After reading both big threads of the last few days after finishing the last route today, I still got a question I haven't seen brought up yet:

In Torta's route, on Natale when they were talking to the Calzone Dude, Chris said he felt a raindrop hit his face.
Did this have any significance at all? Because I can't really figure out what it's supposed to mean right now.

>>4569951
It definitely has some hidden meaning.

>>4569951
Cris's condition was psychological, he could feel rain, so feeling it in a place with roof was a bit troubling, reflecting his anxiety for being so intimate with Torta

>>4569970
Well, it's obvious that it's got to do something with his psyche, at least it is after re-reading that part through Al Fine. I just can't connect it to that moment being special in any way at all. It didn't feel like a moment he would be feeling especially anxious or anything to me.

>>4569986
Well, 'dating' Torta is something that he didn't like at first, because it was the ultimate betrayal to Ari, another girl was fine, but realizing that he had feelings for his girlfriend's twin was a bit too much, therefore the drop

>>4569951

I thought it was a tear

>>4570005
Yeah, I see where you're coming from, and it'd be understandable and all that, it's just that... as I said, the specific scene where it happened didn't strike me as being all that special.
If they had wanted to use it like that there would've been better scenes for this. He was guilt tripping quite a bit, but not especially while talking to some burly dude with an accordian selling calzones on the market.
But maybe I'm just reading too much into it since it felt so out of place when I read it.

Maybe because he was having so much fun he forgot about ari. When calzone man mentioned that they looked like a nice couple he snapped back to reality and felt sad/guilty again.

What makes me a little sad about this game is, even though I really liked Lise's route and character and even found the bitter sweet ending to it nice (at least she _is_ slowly getting better, right? at least in my heart she is ;_;) her route seems more like a little "extra" that was added sometime after when they still had time. She's the only character that isn't really intertwined in the bigger picture. At least Fal still had some kind of purpose or at least presence in the other routes.

>>4570219
Same. I wish she had some screentime in Al fine or anything else really. She barely even gets mentioned.

>>4570219
Oh man, why did you have to remind me about this.... Lise... She's doomed to live an horrible life...

>>4570286
Not really. Chris were the reason she was put in the position she was put in. Without chris maybe she will get good at the fortell and become a famous, upstanding girl with a nice husband.

>>4570659
I wish it, from the bottom of my heart.

>>4570659
I wish it, from the bottom of my heart. But the fact she will be forced to play Fortell when she likes to sing will be a source of hardships no matter what.

>>4570659
She didn't want to play the fortell though. She wanted to sing.

>>4570760
I bet she didn't want to get fucking throat raped and put into the hospital. I'm sure playing the fortell instead while having singing as a secondary enjoyment is a bit less of a problem. Just saying.

>>4570817
Yeah, I'm sure her cool father will let her enjoy other hobbies peacefully. He's that cool, after all.

>>4570026
>>4569951
Yes, it was obviously a tear.

>>4570817
I don't know. Lise seemed pretty miserable before getting involved with Chris.

>>4547458
What bothered me throughout the game was that I always tried to imagine what kind of magical instrument the fortell could be, since it obviously had to have a lot of keys like a piano while still being portable.
Then, in the last cg in the epilogue of the final route, we finally get a picture and... the hell? It looked neither portable nor interesting. Then again, maybe Chris just had a special portable one while going to school?

Well, I'm probably the only one who was even bothered by that, though.

Also, what's with Arietta's head in this image? It's hueg.

>>4570989
Yeah, they did make a distinction between portable and non-portable ones, so Chris's would have been the former.

>>4571012
Still, I guess I wanted it to look less like a flattened piano on thin legs and more like some kind of magical music instrument.

>>4570989
The whole time I thought there was something special about the instrument that they were eventually going to reveal.

>>4571119
Well, in Al fine, you get the pseudo confirmation that happiness/sorrow gives beautiful tones, but there's not much to say about the instrument itself.

Would you sleep with a lise?

>>4575957
Her ending is bullshit.
Fuck you Grave!

>>4575957
Yes.

>>4575957
Probably not. She was my least favorite heroine.

Fal is the worst heroine ever.
I don't want a manipulative nonvirgin slut in my pure love eroge.

Maybe if she stop her manipulative ways but no, she likes her true personality more than Chris.

>>4577684
No. Seriously, stop thinking like that just because she was at first interested in Chris because of his Fortell abilities. That doesn't make all her kindness void, she is kind. Also, being with Chris changes her way of thinking. Of course, at first she only cares about his Fortell tones. But at the end of her route, she says she loves HIM and his tones. See >>4543020

>>4577742
Knowing fal the necklace is just another one of her ploys to make chris trust her.

>>4577684
Stop. Think for a second, what was the only illogical thing she ever did, the only thing she ever did for someone else's sake? Telling Chris about how she was manipulating him. She could've just led him on like that, but she took a risk because she wanted him to love her for who she actually was.

>>4577836
Now you're just finding silly ways to hate her. Fal is honest, and the fact she reveals everything is because she wanted to start an honest relationship.

>>4577864
Whoops, Anon took the lead by two posts.

>>4570219
Didn't they walk together under an umbrella a couple times during her route? We have an obvious justifician for Torta and Fal going along with something like that, but never for Lise. I've been thinking about going back and playing through Lise's route to see if I missed any connections in there. Maybe she talked to Torta, or maybe she just felt like Chris was an outcast like her.

>>4577899
Torta told her.

>>4577899
Read the thread.
>>4577866
No that is wrong. She told him because she knew it would fuck him up even more. Being sadder = better tones in his fortell = better recital.

>>4578017
Also she wanted angry chris sex.

Sociopath moe.

>>4578017
Enjoy your distorted vision of reality. I'll enjoy my Falsita.

>>4577864
Sbe just wants to make herself and Chris miserable so they can do their best performance yet.

>>4577742
No. While Fal might indeed learn to love the protagonist, it's a pretty shallow love. She couldn't even change away from her cynic self nor did Chris managed to change her.

Compare this to Lise, who chose Chris over her family,
or Torta, who sacrificed everything, including her sister for Chris,
or Ari, who tries her best to push Chris away from her so he can obtain happiness and move on.

Fal couldn't sacrifice her dreams or even her cynic personality and opted to separate instead if when he didn't accepted her. She doesn't believe in the non-cynical way of thinking. Her throwing herself to Chris is practically her way of saying "You're kind to me because you want to get into my pants". She doesn't even try to understand him, she only wants to turn Chris into a cynic.

She doesn't believe in the goodness in people's heart, she views love as nothing more than mere partnership with mutual benefits. She didn't compromise not even a single bit to be with Chris. For her, it's either Chris accomodates her or he's gone. She loves her dreams, her wicked personality more than Chris.

>>4578090
see
>>4578065

>>4578090
>or Ari, who tries her best to push Chris away from her so he can obtain happiness and move on.

Did you not read al fine? That wasn't ari bro.

>>4578090
I don't see how there's anything wrong with wanting to be accepted the way you are by the one you love. If you're changing yourself just so someone will love you then you have problems (which is what Fal was doing before she realized it was better to be honest with Chris and hope he would love her true self).

>>4578090
>She didn't truly love him because she didn't suddenly do a 180 in her personality and worldview after meeting him.
You have some fucked up standards, bro.

>>4578154
Enjoy your bitch then.

>>4578167
Read Phorni.

>>4578179
There's nothing wrong with it, except she want Chris to change instead of her and values her petty dream more than Chris. Like I said that's a pretty shallow love compared to the rest of the heroines.

Chris wasn't able to change her. Chris accomodates, Fal doesn't.
Enjoy your cynic that's only with you because you're useful to her.

>>4578167
Didn't you read Phorni's route?

>>4578179
>>4578209
I think there's no point in trying to change his opinion about Falsita. He'd probably even interpret the lyrics of her ending song negatively.

>>4578223
Neither Chris nor Fal had to change. They both accepted each other and loved each other for what they were.

>March 7th 2010: The first of the four side stories from the DPC disk is now translated (though not yet edited). The other three will follow sometime soon, maybe. And there are actually three more side stories that came with the Fukyuuban release. If anyone happens to have these, it would please us greatly if you could provide them for translation. Phar 16:37, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

http://tsukuru.info/tlwiki/index.php?title=Symphonic_Rain
Holy shit

>>4578233
Could have just said phorni.

>>4578249
>>4568303

>>4578249

Holy shit i was on there 5 hours ago and that post wasn't up then. So excited now, time to play every song on hard mode.

>>4578223
I get the feeling you've been spoiled by an overabundance in VN's of doormat moeblob heroines that will sacrifice anything for the faceless main character. She has her own viewpoint and her own way of coping with the world. She tells Chris openly about it, because she doesn't want to deceive him. She's one of the best heroines I've seen in a VN in AGES. Anyone can write shit like "I'll always love you" and "I just want to be with you." It's another thing entirely to write a heroine with her own motivations, who isn't there purely for the insert character's benefit.

>>4578223
In what way did she want him to change? I don't remember anything about that. And it wasn't about her valuing her dream more than Chris. She just didn't want to be with him if he couldn't accept her as she was. That's not an unreasonable demand at all.

>that's a pretty shallow love compared to the rest of the heroines.
To go back to your other post:
>Compare this to Lise, who chose Chris over her family,
Yeah, Lise sure was giving up a lot by getting the fuck away from her abusive father. What a terrible loss that was for her.

>Torta, who sacrificed everything, including her sister for Chris,
I don't see how this is a good thing. She's crazy and willing to sacrifice others to get what she wants. I'm not sure if that's a good love.

Although I think arguing over how "real" a heroine's love is is pretty pointless to begin with. That's not exactly something an outsider can judge.

>>4578310
Ending song lyrics.

>>4578209
>>4578247
Except she's a cynic and a sociopath, she needs to change. Nothing good will come out of it.

Or what? I bet if Nekoko's route on YMK ended with the protag funding her drug habits you'd consider it good too? After all no one needs to change.

The fact is, Fal's outlook isn't really healthy. It's going to ruin her sooner or later. The protagonist should have been able to change her.

Alright guys this thread is getting stupid. Fal is fal, we can agree her route was good if it is causing us to look at it in so many ways, but we don't have enough information to know truly what her desires are.

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>>4578310
Fal's ending song lyrics.

>>4578326
Post the lyrics.

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>>4578309
There's a big difference between doing hard drugs and having a pessimistic outlook. I've met plenty of incredibly manipulative people, and they get along fine, as Fal obviously did, too.

>>4578333
http://www.tsukuru.info/tlwiki/index.php?title=Symphonic_Rain:Song_Lyrics

>>4578367
Fundamentally the same.
She has psychological issues that needs to be fixed. Her outlook isn't really healthy.

>>4578290
That doesn't refute anything. Sure Torta's love is excessive but that doesn't change the fact that Fal's love is the most shallow out of all the heroines.

By trying to make Chris accept her viewpoint about love, she is in effect trying to make Chris a cynic.

>>4578275
No. I actually hate cookie cutter school romance eroge and avoids them whenever possible.

Look, I actually played an eroge where the main heroine is a slut, and by slut I mean she answered your confession by fucking 3 guys at once in front of you and asks you if you accept her for who she is. She then continues fucking other guys, multiple guys at once to boot, even though you're now going out.

What Fal is doing is similar, no way I'm seeing those types as the best. They don't want to change themselves and wants the protagonist to accomodate them instead.

I do not want doormat heroines.
I do not want doormat protagonists either.
Whatever happened to compromising to each other?

>>4578518
>Whatever happened to compromising to each other?
Everyone else in the thread seems convinced that's what happened in Fal's route. Fal isn't fucking Asino and whatever other boys happened to be useful at the time at the end of her route, is she? Furthermore, she IS making progress towards changing at the end of her route, since she's finally trusting someone other than herself.

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>>4571119
The whole time I thought that Phorni is the fortell's soul or something.

I mean her name is etched above the scoreboard during the rhythm game and she likes sitting on top of the fortell.

links to download this?

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>>4578715

What the fuck is up with this spam lately?

>>4578644
Fair enough. I'm not seeing it though, I mean the last remark is the protagonist being happy that he's being used.

It's more like the protagonist accepted that he's being used and loves her regardless.

>>4578723
It is very annoying because I haven't found a way to filter it yet, if you know a string to filter that catches most of it let met know

By the way, did anyone go and mess up the graduation recital on phorni's route and got some kind of bad end out of it? I was intrigued but I don't think I could stomach it.
I was already anxious enough if the audience would've heard her at all after giving it my best shot. I don't think I could take the devastating silence after messing up.
Then again since the Album only lists 3 bad ends as available, it'd either work either way or fall back to one of the other bad ends I guess?

Someone has a direct download link?

>>4580381
I believe it's on VDZ's ftp.

>>4580359
The scene changes depending on how well you do, but you still get the same ending no matter what.

>>4580521
Well, I thought so, but thanks. Guess I might as well see for myself later, for completion's sake. Have to try >>4543208 too while I'm at it.
Actually, it feels like I should also re-read Fal's and Lise's route now that I'm done.

bump

>>4580548
Don't bother, it's just the same Al Fine end.

>>4580548
It's exactly the same, except you get to chose between "Believe in Torta" (she comes as Torta and everything happens like in Al fine) or "Go outside to look for her" (in fact you don't go outside at all, Torta comes as Ari, and you see the normal Torta end all over again).

>>4580548
It's exactly the same as Al Fine, except you get to choose between "Believe in Torta" (she comes as Torta and everything happens like in Al fine) or "Go outside to look for her" (in fact you don't go outside at all, Torta comes as Ari, and you see the normal Torta end all over again).

>>4583276
It's the other way around.

>>4583432
No. Believe in Torta = Al fine end. I just tested it.

There might not even be a tomorrow
So why am I living today?
This is everything
I should have known this

I felt impatient
I didn't want to choose, I wanted to do everything
Wonderful things
will come up like a whirlwind

When I was lost, I wanted a goal
Frustrated, I ran desperately
But once I saw my goal, I began regretting it
I want to be here longer
I want this to last, I thought

I'm all right
I love you
I love my life
I'm always close to you

I'm sorry That our farewell is so sudden
I feel a bit lonesome right now
But it isn't sadness
This will become a fine memory one day

Promise me I have only one wish
Live Live
Never give up No matter what happens
It would be the most charming thing you could do

>>4586308
;_;

>>4586308
Wasn't this composed by the protagonist?

>>4587494
Oh shit your right.... Wait... WHAT?

>>4587535


But Asino wrote the lyrics!

>>4587592

How does this make any sense.......

>>4587592
Do we know this for sure? For all we know he could've just made that one up to make Phorni write the lyrics.
After hearing the lyrics for this throughout the game it'd be pretty stupid to say "oh btw. the protag didn't write this lol" in the very last route.

>>4586308
bawwww

excuse me may i post through here

>>4589637
It doesn't make sense really if other people besides Phorni is the one that wrote that lyrics.

It's a plot hole I guess.

>>4589766
"Fay" is the only song Phorni wrote lyrics for, that should be pretty clear. If not only for the reason of her long arguing that she never did any lyric writing before. I also think it's pretty clear that she'd never be able to write such depressing lyrics as in "I'm always close to you", her Fay lyrics are of a completely different nature and for obvious reasons too.
I'll just go with the assumption he said it to convince her to write the lyrics, feels the most right to me.

excuse me may i post through here

>>4589801
Then what are the lyrics of "Always Close to You" alluding to?

It doesn't fit to anyone besides her.

>>4589817
That's right, they do fit her really well, but still I think what I wrote is pretty much a fact. Arguing "I never wrote lyrics before!" would be kind of out of place if she wrote the lyrics to his earlier song. And by out of place I mean really fucking stupid.

Of course, you could always just assume that the lyrics for this song don't even mean that much, and are just an expression of his never ending sadness and depression, without hinting anything at the story.
Or we assume Asino _really_ did write them to fit to the sad melody. Anyway, the lyrics don't fit him at all either, neither his story nor his character.

Can someone post the DL links for this? It was in about six MU parts but I only got about three of them and lost the links.

>>4589898
You really should hone your google-skills more, or at least bookmark this site:
http://vnddl.webs.com/list.txt
There's also a torrent up on isohunt with some extras. (I'm seeding)

Only posting since it's a good game.

>>4589817
I think they fit Chris more. The third verse especially.

excuse me may i post through here

>>4589918
Actually, it seems to me like the first half of the lyrics fits chris (maybe the first verse not as much though, that's a bit strong even for him) and the second half phorni

>>4589926
I was thinking the same thing actually. Maybe it's about both of them.

>>4589966
You could even conveive the middle part as transition between the two parts:

I'm all right (Chris, writing in his letters to Ari perhaps, or maybe even also phorni assuring him everything is ok)
I love you (both, obviously)
I love my life (well, obviously not Chris I guess, but it also doesn't really fit all that much with phorni in her current state, would more be Ari a few years ago, damn)
I'm always close to you (phorni)

>>4590007
Btw. it's also interesting these 4 lines are the only parts that are sung in english.

I get it. Asino is the godfairy. He knows Chris and Phorni's situation and wrote the lyrics because he's pretty sad for them. He's the one that gave Phorni her body.

Or maybe Asino is a suitor Ari once rejected before. Because of that he got a grudge against Chris and befriended him to find weak points to attack him against. He wrote that sad lyrics to subconsciously convince Chris to commit suicide. It also explains why he hates Torta, he can't accept that the gentle Ari is in the hospital while the vulgar she is alive and well. It also explains why Phorni seems to know Asino.

>>4589817

They probably allude to Ritsuko Okazaki herself, since she wrote them in end. They would fit her well in any case, considering the condition she was in.

>>4590114
Well, that'd be even sadder now.
I honestly don't think so, though, would be a bit unfitting to include as important song in the game. (then again, was it really that important in the end? It's not like you get to play it too often)

>>4590046
I lol'd.

Saving from page 15. The game's translation is still fresh so this thread should stay around a bit longer.

>>4590114
Oh man, I hope not. That's just really sad.
She doesn't want to finish Symphonic Rain because she knows she'll die after it gets released. ;_;

Just finished Phorni.

Why the fuck is it better than Al fine?