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Lrn2spregen/focus/Shiki,

The Shikis, Lancer, and a few other characters will win the game for you. When you get Vanilla Arc, bosses become jokes.

>>4545363
Shiki isn't really part of the equation at the moment. I'm stuck on this one mission with Rin, Haruna, Hisui, and Akiha, fighting this White Crow thing.

Also is it just me or does Caster seem like she was wasted?

>>4545376
That's one of the worst fights in the game. Annoying, but simple if you use Akiha and Hisui right. Haruna and Rin suck balls though.

>>4545357
Er wait, I meant Fire Emblem 5. Shit.

>>4545357
>Fire Emblem 9
>Game where your lord could literally solo every mission
Derp

>>4545357
Enjoy your battle saves after every move, that's all I have to say.

>>4545394
FFFFFF I meant to type 5. 9 was indeed easy as shit. 8 was still easier though.

>>4545396
Welcome to SRW

>>4545376
>He went with Haruna the first run!

>>4545417
Just look at those spats. How could you not?

>>4545396
I can never get used to battle saves. Fire Emblem and FFT have trained me to not even think about such matters as I keep going turn after turn.

>>4545417
I heard Takumi's route was cooler so I wanted to do the lamer one the first play...

Download link?

>>4545413
Pretty much this. Just wait until you get to a stage where the lose condition is someone dieing and a character having a 3% chance to get hit and having to reload 6 times.

>>4545417
i went with haruna too. it wasn't that hard.

also sacchin ftw and i wish there was a version you could control gil,nanaya,caster,illya,berserker

>>4545429
>>4545429
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=DK04K7VT

Entire game, prepatched. Also comes with two saves, but I haven't used them because I want to get New Game+ myself.

>>4545432
This is why Super Robot Wars is an inferior SRPG series.

Still fun though.

Assuming you have extra money and character points by the end, consider giving Bazzett the King Card and Ammo Save for Fragarach spamming.

Also this game has some awesome music. Wish the animations were a bit faster though. I usually just leave them off because as cool as they are, they take too long.

>>4545425
Yeah, sometimes I forget to battle save, and then I miss an 82% accuracy hit, or my evasive tanks get hit by a 17% critical or some retarded shit.

Getting through Radiant Dawn was a bitch.

>>4545459
FUCK ME IS THAT SOME GAO GAI GAR?

>>4545432
I just wish all the characters weren't made of glass, while most of the enemies are giant lakes of HP.

HIMAWARI~

>>4545470
GGGF: the Gurren Lagaan before Guren Lagaan

>>4545470
Refer to >>4545413

Spirits, use them, love them. Get SP Regen on all of your characters and spam them.

>>4545493
I have noticed that normal healing is useless in the face of 30% heals, and then there's ACC/Evade. Well I guess I know what to spend my points on now.

>>4545511
Well, normal healing is good for getting EXP for your healers.

>>4545511
Get Quick for real characters, Tough for super characters. For hybrids like Archer, look at their spirits: notice if they have something like Iron Defense or Focus. Archer has Focus, so bump his Quick.

Archer is the only real hybrid you should be using, anyway. Ciel is terrible.

>>4545576
>Ciel is terrible
Nothing is new here.

>>4545477
I love Magical Maid Amber far more than I should.

>>4545357
its an alpha era SRW, yeah its annoyingly hard

>Haruna gets taken out by a lucky shot from a cola monster
>Akiha gets one hit ko'ed by the boss
>whittle the boss away with just Rin and Hisu
Derp derp doop

Arcueid is the best character in the game. She is God tier in all her forms

>>4545357
I didn't have much of a problem. Sacchin and Lancer alone make things much easier.

>>4545643

>Sacchin and Len
Daaaw

>>4545643
>Akiha gets one hit ko'ed by the boss

Stop building her wrong. Akiha can laugh at bosses when built properly and played right. They can't even hurt her. Literally, can't hurt her. Her unique support ability is simply amazing. Other characters just wish they could tank what she can.

>>4545675
Akiha is godmode. But Sacchin is still a pretty good tank.

>>4545675
I know. It got over 4000 damage. I'll add some defense to her when I get more points.

>>4545685
the spritelist for sacchin is so horribly funny.

>>4545675
You quoted the wrong comment

>>4545685
And yes, Arcueid and Sacchin are probably the best characters in the game, Sacchin is like a weaker version of Arcueid with shorter range, but still pretty damn powerful

>>4545685
>Len's move turns the enemy into a fish which is then eaten by Neko Arc
SURE THING GAME

>>4545725
fo Aruceid is Gunbuster, Sacchin is Sizzler?

>Sweet Dream's animation

Level up a single character - easy modo

Level up all characters equally - ohgodrinissobad

It's pretty much impossible to die if you have at least one healer with sp regen on your side though.

>>4545775
Glasses loli is a glasses loli

I don't get why the game keeps showing the characters partially in shadow without ????? for names. Does it honestly think anyone playing the game isn't going to recognize Archer?

>>4545751
Sacchin is Shining Gundam.

>>4545801
What killed me was one time they do it for Hisui for all of three lines while she's waking Shiki up.

hey op enjoy your no sacchin in haruna route

YOU HAVE ALREADY INTRODUCED CHAOS, WHY ARE YOU HIDING HIS NAME?

White Len's Sweet Dream is better.

>>4545725
Arcueid isn't "good" until her final form, at which point she is utterly fucking broken. It's like having three characters at once in the same place. There's nothing that can beat her. She can take two or three second-arm hits from a boss and still be at 1/4 health in the worst case.

Sacchin is only "so good" because she's a super with absolute damage and the best spirits. Her spirits are so useful it's scary.

>>4545725
However, Lancer is the best for clearing away enemies in normal battle.

1) get counter attack
2)Build up his dodge skill and spam focus everyround.
3) use accelerate to move him ahead of your team right in the middle of as much enemies your attack can reach
4) attack and end turn, watch as in the enemy phase all of the monster lose half of their hp.

>Also hard

I was going to mock you, but I guess I can see why it'd be hard if try to level EVERY character to be usable. Only 10 or so characters are needed to be pumped up:

T. Shiki
Haruna
Archer
Lancer
R. Shiki
Rider
Shirou
Arcueid
Len
Hisui

>>4545849
Sup, Sion.

>>4545902
I didn't level Archer, Shirou, or Rider and still had a really easy time. But yeah, don't spread your levels out too much.

>>4545902
Len is an endgame character?

>>4545902
Rider is just "decent." Her lack of a movement spirit makes it harder to adjust her use. Takumi is way more consistent than Haruna, but that's largely a path choice. I like Takumi better, but that's just me. Haruna isn't terrible, but she starts off worse. The biggest thing about Haruna is her final arm is a combination attack with her maid, who I don't agree is all that useful, when you could have someone else better in her place. Even Caren as a spirit battery is better, since Caren has an unreasonably good stock of spirits and support moves she can perform. Len is only good for her spirits, and I wouldn't suggest using her.

Shirou is "good", but I've never been able to make consistent use of Indomitable, and it sucks against bosses, as they will anally rape him, and you can't heal him without fucking up Indomitable.

You lack Sacchin, who is rape in a can. I am disappointed. I can only believe that you played real route once and then never played another route. I am sorry.

>>4545941
-50% Hit completely neuters bosses. The -50% Tough also translates to about +2000 damage per attack against late game bosses, but Sakura's usually the safer bet for applying that status.

>>4545945
One thing Caren gets that will save your ass against bosses is a -will spirit that utterly cockfucks bosses like Tatari and Kyuu, who get AUTOMATIC saves and hit support abilities once they reach a certain willpower level. Save Caren for them and then willpower rape them. Then, fuck their worlds with your rape squad.

Len is just terrible, overall, but when you get far enough into the game, that doesn't matter, as you have spots to fill with people that you never used before.

Bazett, surprisingly, is very good. Her "ATTACK ONLY ME" spirit guarantees a Fragarach, and giving her Gilgamesh's card guarantees Fragarach EVERY turn. Once you buff her up, she can take hits like a champ and dodge most of the others. She has focus, so that's a game changer for her.

I can't think of anything else. Saber is useful, just as a straight up attacker, especially after she gets Avalon. Her third arm itself is just murder, though it's a shame she splits her arm-stat for her attacks.

>>4545935

Only reason I leveled those three up was for Battle Masteries.

>>4545941

She's alright if you don't want to sub her for Karen since she comes pre-loaded with all of the useful skills a healer needs, though Karen's skills are cheaper once you get her to a similar level.

Or you could use Len, Karen, and Hisui.

>>4545945

1) Again, main reason to level up Rider is for the Three Servants BM. After that, you may as well use her since her range is nice enough to make it hard for people to attack her, though I agree her weak movement is her biggest problem

2) I rarely have trouble with Shirou's Indomitable, though he is terrible until he gets it. At least he doesn't suffer Shiki's greatest weakness, though that isn't too hard to remedy.

3) Not available for Haruna's route, which doesn't help OP. This is why Takumi's route should be done first.

>>4545989
>At least he doesn't suffer Shiki's greatest weakness

What, that nothing, aside from Kyuu, can hit him?

That's a terrible weakness. I laughed at Nanaya when he tried to hit Shiki. Shiki just counter/dodged him every round.

Shiki would be as broken as Arc if he didn't have an attack power handicap. Ryougi is better in that regard, as her first arm is actually powerful on its own, for zero energy, and she has good criticals.

You just have to sacrifice practically all her spirit uses to get her subskill fired up. After that, nothing can hit her except for bosses, which lucky is for.

>>4546011
I say lucky, but I don't remember the name for the "no-hit" spirit, so whatever.

>>4545725
>Arcueid and Sacchin are probably the best characters in the game
Shirou would like to have a word with you.

Seriously, when he gets Indomitable up and you upgrade his tough/prevail(was it?) he may as well be marked as immortal. I remember my all battle mastery playthrough on real and unless something manages to one shot Shirou he becomes a walking tank that only gets hit for 10 damage by bosses.

>>4545977

Bazett's biggest problem is how late she joins the game. By the time you get her, your group really doesn't need another character to steal attacks from your crowd control units (T. Shiki, Lancer and, to some extent, R. Shiki).

I disagree with you about Len being useless due to her nice starting skills/spirits, especially for a first game. She does get outclassed by Hisui and Caren in the endgame, but what you don't need more attackers in the endgame; just more SP healers.

Kudos to Caren's Will draining skill.

>>4546029
>Shirou he becomes a walking tank that only gets hit for 10 damage by bosses.

I've pumped up Shirou with so much Tough that he was oozing in it, had him with prevail at max, Indomitable up, and he got one-shotted the next turn with a 34% chance of being hit. This was after I buffed his defense stat, too.

I just don't know what I'm doing wrong. Maybe I picked the wrong boss to test him on.

>>4546024
Yeah, I use Len, Caren, Hisui, Kohaku, and Sakura for spirit tanking/healing. Kohaku isn't that great, but her spirits let me maximize my BP/EXP gain, and I loves her~

I don't use Haruna, so I don't have her meido. Too much trouble using real types, for the most part, when all my supers just wafflestomp everything on the map in 4 turns.

>>4546011 What, that nothing, aside from Kyuu, can hit him?

His accuracy has got to be one of the worst for a game-breaking character, even with that one spirit of his. However, if you don't care about BM, this is kind of a moot point.

>>4546060

You need Indomitable + Prevail (as high as you can get) to make Shirou an utter tank capable of soloing anything in his path.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but in general Servants, Demons, and Vampires are Super Types, while humans are real types right?

>>4546060

Probably was dealing with a ~300 hp Shirou with the -50% defense debuff, which will kill him if hit by the stronger bosses.

>>4546097
Just look at the evasion and defense. Whichever is higher will usually tell you the type.

>SHIKI and Rider
OH GOD

As long as we all agree that Ciel is terrible, that's the important thing.

>>4545685
But Sacchin is miles ahead of shitty Akiha in both tanking abilities, and offensive capabilities.

>>4546153
I didn't know they hired Amano to do the art for BMW.

>>4546123
I love how terrible SHIKI's art is in BMW. It's like the sucked all the blood out of him and now he's some shriveled husk walking around.

>>4546143
>But Sacchin is miles ahead of shitty Akiha in both tanking abilities

Akiha cannot be hurt if built right. As in ABSOLUTELY NO DAMAGE EVER.

>>4546075
>T. Shiki
>Bad accuracy

What?

>>4546173

I mean exactly what I typed: unless you boost his accuracy through skill points, he just doesn't have that great an accuracy in the endgame, even with focus.

I will note that this isn't that gamebreaking since there several ways to get around this problem, but it's still an annoyance.

>>4546060
hm, it might of had something to do with upgraded health as well.

I remember I had my Shirou at 10,000+ health instead of the default, if I still had my save or even bmw still installed I could go check from the all clear. I'm pretty sure the only stat I upgraded was hit, I think I upgraded his quick for the hell of it as well since he was my best but that wouldn't change the damage taken.

The health upgrade might make Indomitable much much more effective as you have a lot more health when it activates, you are able to inch down decreasing damage taken with each hit received to the point where it'll take longer to kill Shirou than for Shiki to solo Aoko.

I'm also in the "Shirou is best in the game"
camp. Nobody else can boast beating Archer with just a wooden sword. SP regen and over 200 turns on my first run through because I actually believed the "Shirou dies" defeat condition=fuck year.

>>4545376
Is she ever not? She apparently can resurrect the dead and constantly dies due to a fucked up concept of holding back.

Also, RoSHIaKI should be canon.

I'm also in the "Shirou is best in the game"
camp. Nobody else can boast beating Archer with just a wooden sword. SP regen and over 200 turns on my first run through because I actually believed the "Shirou dies" defeat condition=fuck year.

>>4545376
Is she ever not? She apparently can resurrect the dead and constantly dies due to a fucked up concept of holding back.

Also, RoSHIaKIshould be canon.

>>4546267

It's a double edged sword really. While it gives Shirou more hp to survive hits until he reaches the requisite 30% to trigger Indomitable, it takes longer to reach that 30% range, increasing his chances of getting killed by a particularly strong hit.

>>4546173
She takes a lot more work to get to that point than Satsuki, and you can put that much effort into her and she only takes a couple thousand on a boss hit, on top of her 10,000HP.

>>4546326
How does it take more? You upgrade one stat instead of balancing out on her. Also, by using Akiha you let Sakura slap both her status effects on bosses via support attacks.

>>4546336

I dislike Akiha mainly because her move is so terrible. Sure, I could spend the skill points needed to get her to 5 move, but at the time that I have Akiha, I have 3 other characters I'd rather focus on (T. Shiki, Haruna/Takumi, Saber). By the time Sacchin joins, there's still plenty of missions left to make use of her, and most of mine characters are built up enough that for the cost of one skill boost, I can give Sacchin a few.

>>4546336
I used the blonde maid in conjunction with Sakura, Akiha's accuracy is fairly shit tier unless you juice her up with the 200% spirit every attack.