/jp/ - Otaku Culture

You lasted until today? I'm impressed.

I wanted to like this game but warriors are so terrible in it.

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I leveled to level 21 just so I could equip this before I gave up.

Now you don't need to feel like you missed anything

>>4541815
Yeah, I logged in this morning and the blue nation has already won. It wasn't great, just something to do, but this is just pathetic.

>The character name: Cirno is already taken.

The hackers have already taken over as well... there's groups of players on blue that just run straight through, OHKOing everyone in their path and taking no damage.

Uninstalled. A waste of hard drive space. Pity.

Can anyone sum this shit up to me? downloading now but'll take sum time.
Pros, cons?
Should I even try playing it to start with?

yeah blue is owning
I'm still having fun even though I have no idea what I'm doing and I can't find any of you

So...
What's plan B? I'm gonna need sum good mmo to play while waiting for Aika ob.

..and good mmos are rare... so any ideas?

>>4541905

Really repetitive.
On the upside, I hear this beta is only ten days long, so if the stragglers that didn't give up on it manage to get something going ingame, I'll join back in.

Bumps foh mmothread!

>>4541949
I see.
How 'bout pvp? is blue as overpowered as these screenshots make'em out to be? Cause I guess that blue/red thing has to do with pvp.

>>4541973

Blue seems to outnumber red at the moment as it's a real bitch to get into any fight.

Supposedly there's cheaters running around in blue too.

Plenty of cheaters in blue, they got the cheats first, and now it's too late for red.

There's a take no damage hack, a do obscene damage hack, and now I'm hearing there's a crystal hack, so you always have the resources to create anything.

Now all they need is an insta-build obelisk hack, and it'll go from 90 percent unplayable to 100 percent.

>>4541973
Most of the GAME is PvP. Thanks to blue owning the whole map, red can't even do any PvE, as all the fields belong to blue.

>>4541863
An anon reserved the name.

For those that inquired:
A bunch of us installed AruaROSE last night, I'm not sure if it'll last or not though. At least we didn't all log out within 5 minutes of starting. We're playing on the 30x server: http://www.aruarose.com/

This will most likely be entirely a take-it-easy guild, unlike our presence in Aika which ended up dominating the entire game.

There are also a number of people still playing FEZ and a guild is up.

>>4542057
Is the game any good?

>>4542079
Horrendously FABULOUS.

Enjoy killing fucking jellybeans.

>>4542057
It's like you guys purposely pick the shittiest games you can find.

>>4542079
- Sickeningly cute music.
- Killing everything from butterflies to jellybeans to furries.
- Character looks like a retarded midget.

Is it fun? Maybe, I only played for like 40 minutes last night, but I already had a giant spear for impaling bees. It's basically a 3D RO (also same company).

Say, any of you guys that are still playing a mage\warrior? I got some interesting drops when I was going for >>4541853

They're yours if you're still playing.

>>4542107
We try man.

Also totally open to better suggestions. What would you play?

>>4542133
>3D RO
That actually doesn't sound so bad to me.
Why don't you guys play Warhammer if you're looking for some serious grim shit?

>>4542137
Nah, no thanks. I'm dropping this game like a hot potato as well.

Can't wait to see what the next internet train wreck looks like...

Remember this, /jp/?

>>4542175
Yes, actually. What happened with it? Everyone stop playing?

>>4542140
Grand Fantasia

>>4542187
There was only like one guy who made threads. Once he stopped, it pretty much died.

>>4542142
>Warhammer
It had a horribly broken and clunky combat system last time I played, which was about 8 months ago. Even ignoring the combat, the PvP system wasn't nearly what it was cracked up to be. The textures in the game were also hideous. It's one of the last p2p games I'd even consider to waste money on.

>>4542140
I'm playing DFO. Granted, it's not for everyone as it doesn't play anything like your conventional MMO. However, I don't really think you can argue that the game isn't decent.

There really aren't any p2p games at the moment that I think is worth the subscription, and most of the decent f2p games have region restrictions, unfortunately. Still, FEZ and aruaROSE are like scraping mildew off the bottom of the barrel.

Ok, which one of you faggots is named Myon and is trying to look like Youmu?

Bump, needz moar mmo discussions

>>4542187
There's just really not much to do, other than watch NND with people. If Cool Story wasn't on, no one else had an apartment with a decent sized TV, so you were pretty much out of luck. So, there were really only certain time frames in which you could hang out, which revolved around his schedule.

We should all play Maplestory!!!

I play Tiba atm, the graphics is so good its crazy and the battle animations (specially the auto attack one) just blows me away everytime I attack a monster. It's so astonishing, I really feel how they put down alot of job on the graphical parts.
Inb4 graphic whore:
the gameplay is sweet as well, but truly, it's the graphics that deserves the most praise here, since I have yet to see another mmo with such a powerfull graphic engine. It just.. drags you into the game, makes everything feel so much more alive! It's like I can sense the npcs breathing in my face when I talk to them. It's just.. overwhelming.

>>4542247
That shit was actually high quality. Far better than most f2p-mmo-shit I've seen.

>>4542215
No MMO is worth paying for, either with your money or your time. They're all fucking ridiculous grind bullshit. Even PVP is generally a joke, it's just whoever can jam the keyboard to strafe+jump better, as well as whoever has spent more time grinding. The only thing that should matter at all is the aesthetics.

>>4542247
It's being hacked to hell right now, so I wouldn't recommend it.
>>4542254
Tiba? Do you mean Tibia or something?

>>4542265
I guess we should all play TF2 then.

>>4542272
>Tibia
Oh god.
inb4 br?

I did play warhammer for a long time but for a game base don PVP, class balance was totally shit.

Ranged classes could easily nuke melee classes to death before the melee classes could get into range.

Destruction outnumbered order on almost all servers(see pic).

Destruction had shit ton of exploits in their favor too. 2 out of 3 order forts were bugged so that the fort lord would teleport down to the first floor instead of staying in his room, then 4 warbands worth of destro would rape him instantly. Forts were IMPOSSIBLE for order to defend.

It got SO BAD that everytime i fucking logged on, order had a fort being seiged or the city was getting seiged again, and there was approx 1 warband worth of order against 3+ warbands of destro.

It was so stupid.

>>4542272
Tibia is known as a horrendously bad game.

>>4542265
>Even PVP is generally a joke, it's just whoever can jam the keyboard to strafe+jump better, as well as whoever has spent more time grinding.

This is exactly why Ultima Online was so great up until Age of Shadows. I'm sometimes tempted to play again, but I can never decide on a player-run shard.

>>4542265
I do not agree. In a well made mmo skill(players skill) matters alot as well. Surely the level and gear cannot be ignored, but in many well made(somewhat at least) mmos, low level players have managed to take down far higher level players just due to skills in playing.

Otherwise I love the whole-level-to-get-strogner concept in rpgs in generall and I love being able to walk around in a virtual world, stumbling across other players now and then and, I dunno, prehabs kill'em or chat with'em.
I love being able to rape the shit out of low level players, just for fun, I love being hunted by higher level players as well. I love the conflicts betwen players and factions/nations/whatever that arises and yea, I love mmos. Its a pity the good ones are drowned in pit of shity ones, thought.

>>4542284
On my server order were handing our asses to us. The endgame was really broken and rvr was usually a one sided steamroll. Still, I miss it often. I even grinded to rr 69.

>>4542272
Oh yea, my apologies. Obviously I meant Tibia.

>>4542309
I respect your opinion. Care to give an example of such a game, where you feel personal skill truly makes a large difference?

Time to list a few problems with this game (I know there are a lot more, so add to the list):
-Hard as shit to join a war (which is the main point of the game)
-No way to figure out where the hell quests are, you just need to talk to random people

>>4542328
World of Warcraft.

>>4542346

>>4542354
Show me yours and I'll show you mine.

>>4542346
Where class balance is a joke? And the class that gets beefed up while every other is nerfed solely depends on Kalgan's flavor of the month? Right.

>>4542357
Sounds tempting. Are you cut, or uncut? I don't care for uncut cocks too much.

>>4542372
You're not Tewi!

>>4542372
I wasn't born in a savage, uncivilized society that condones genital mutilation.

>>4542328
Well, WoW was one, now after Northrend I haven't been playing much so cant say how it's now but I'd guess it's still the same. One of the few I can say right of the bat, thought.

I'd like to remeber that "Risk your life" were of such nature, even thought the classes were slightly imbalanced.

Then we have.. wtf was it called... Reig- or something, max level 50, three nations, with different races and a bounch of castles in the middle of world map.. whatever.

Most mmorpgs are WEAK in this subject thought, since they tend to be based on different builds instead of direct "player skill". So on that point I'm afraid I dont have much to argue with.

Would anyone be interested in playing Divinia?

http://www.diviniaro.net/

Looks like they've done a lot with the abandoned RO2 project and have come a long way since EuphRO2.

I've long wanted to join other /jp/sies in playing an MMO, but it seems like people play something new every few months, so I never started.

I think Guild Wars is decent in that the grind is not too long and the "best" stats for equipment is easy to get, with skins being the price factor. If I were to start Aika now, would it still be fun or will it be dead soon?

>>4542426
It looks alright I guess. I'd be interested, I suppose.

>>4541854

That screen look hideously like FFTA ripoff.

>>4542426
Watched the trailer, mixed feelings.

kk, Fantasy earth installation just finished, gonna give it a try.

>>4542396
It's just fucking sanitary.

>>4542321
Destro ruled almost all oceanic servers. But yeah, when one side got the advantage, the game wasnt fun anymore.

Also dungeons were crazily bugged...anyone remember butcher gutbeater in lost vale after they "fixed" the exploit where you can stuck the boss?

Experienced, fully warded parties were getting wiped because his damage was absolutely insane. It was just so frustrating.

I almost got full dark promise set too :(.

Balanced scenarios were awesome though. Especially when you de-stealth and proceed to rape 3 guys in the backrow because they werent paying attention.

>>4542439
Our prans are all dead. You would be starting over at the same level as all of us in OB.
Stick with the pack, you'll do fine.

>>4542439
I regret not buying the GW package the last time it was on sale on Steam. I had a lot fun playing it when it first came out. I heard they recently implemented a new skill set that caused an uproar. How's that playing out?

Although, I'm kind of hesitant to jump back in the game at this point when it seems like GW2 isn't too far away.

>>4542425
I'm not even going to bother. I don't feel like arguing right now.

Probably not going to play any MMOs until FF14; mostly because I'm stuck with a shitty computer that can't play shit right now, and korean grinding games aren't enough to make me run out and buy something new.

>>4542309
>In a well made mmo skill(players skill) matters alot as well.
This is why I liked RO. You had to make your build and decide what skills to take.
Too bad that in endgame pvp everyone goes for a vit build and the same cards.

>>4542467
Is something the matter, Anon? It's not like you to not want to argue.

>>4542437
I think /jp/ will stick with Aika for a while at least. Everyone's just wasting time waiting for open beta. The only problem so far is that we are doing too well for ourselves. No taking it easy when you're on top.

>>4542493
Hmm. I guess I'll just keep waiting until the next new thing people jump on. It's not all that fun to start behind everyone else.

>>4542514
You won't be behind. Everyone is starting anew in OB. Everything is wiped after CB.

Why do you people sage your own threads?

>>4542514
Well, like was said before, it's probably gonna be OB for Aika next so everything will be wiped. Sure the veterans will have more experience getting things done again, but you can probably ask for help and stuff like that.

>>4542467
The new skill update nerfed the two most used, and imbalanced, money making builds in the game. It actually helped the game economy but people complain nonetheless.

Classes are more balanced than most other MMOs I played. I think it's pretty cheap now if you want to start, it's pretty good to kill time.

>>4542528

Why don't you go back to /a/?

>>4542520
I didn't pay much attention to Aika during the previous CBs, but I guess that I will join you guys during the next one. I will have to keep an eye on future threads like this one.

>>4542514
Join us for OB, the game is easy to get into.

All this MMO talk has got me all hot and bothered. I guess I'll wait for Aika since it seems there are people who will be playing that.

>we should all play maplestory!
there's already a hotglue guild in maplestory, not /jp/ tho

If it counts for anything, there's at least 30 /jp/ers who are waiting eagerly for Aika due to the excellent CB.

We'll be playing that for a few months at least, probably longer if we can completely dominate our nation again.

I kind of think we should change nations for that. We already dominated Fenrior

I dunno, all these mmos don't seem too good. maybe try Monster Hunter Frontier or something.

>>4542894
We're notorious now and everyone is buttmad at us. It's gonna be harder to be as dominant in Feonir, but Feonir might dominate all the other nations since so many people are flocking to Feonir for whatever reason.

>>4542916
We should move to Lenaria. Don't make any mention of it on the forums or anything, and just let them figure it out once we have the guild up, and they see us running around in Lenaria. I think they have enough people and good guilds that we could do well there. Vanov would be no fun since they'll probably ally with Feonir again, and there doesn't seem to be many on Ostrich or whatever it is.

On another note, I wouldn't surprised if someone tries to ninja the Hotglue guild name before we get it.

>>4542916
Shenanigans. Alethius is still the biggest nation which is why we need to dominate it.

>>4542982
FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU.
Meant Lenaria

>>4543000
No, you were right. Alethius was and will likely remain the largest nation.

>>4541801

Oh, /jp/ is playing MMO's again? I missed the fun times we had in Mabinogi.

So, when is Aika Open Beta, and what is so special about this game?

>>4543039
Good class balance and you get a pet loli. Looks pretty good too. But mainly the pet loli.

>>4543060

>you get a pet loli

Almost sold.

What about the PVP? Any nation wars?

>>4543102
>>4543039
Where the hell were you last month?

>>4543102
Pvp is BASED on nation wars. So yes. Lots of them.

>>4543102
That's a pretty large part of the game. Also, castle sieges for determining what guild becomes the Lord Marshall to manage and coordinate the nation. There are also battlegrounds for smaller group PvP.

>>4543117

/jp/ has been shit for the past few months. Whaddya think?

>>4543127
>>4543119

Dang.

Thanks, dudes. I'm looking forward to this now.

>>4543039
I have no recollection of where I saw it, and please do not, do not quote me on this, but Aika OB may be coming out on the 15th of March.

>>4543157
probably from God ingame

Are battlegrounds segrated via levels?

Can you level up just by doing battlegrounds?

>>4543177
No, there is no level segregation. You can create a battleground and just wait for people to join both groups. I don't think it rewards experience, but it nets you Hero Points (or something like that) that you can use to buy things like potions.

>>4543193
You get honor points for pvp in general which can be used to redeem for honor gear. Takes quite a bit of it though for higher levels.

You guys can check out a bunch of our AIKA pictures on the Hotglue site: http://hotglue.co.cc/gallery/

We'll be moving back to the game en masse in open beta.

>>4543193
So theres no point joining till you are high level?

>>4541853
a bit curious, where'd you get lv21 gear?

what are the system requirements for this game? my video card got busted, so I'm left using a shitty 128MB integrated graphics card.

>>4543245
Not all the time. Lowbies can cause confusion or help root/stun people. Just don't expect to be a crucial part.

I guess it's more like if they have a tier higher of gear then it makes a difference, so if everyone is within 4 levels then it's not too bad in BGs. Gear upgrade is every 8 levels but there are quests that give you a version of higher level gear earlier. Like say you're running around in level 40 gear fighting level 48 gear people.

Any reviews from Aika beta so far?

Looks interesting I might have to join you fags.

Where or how can I get rings?
Damn level 10 armors ;_;

>>4543265
you create it and some of them u can get from quests

>>4543303
join nation battle, kill ppl

>>4543157
The news I heard was a month or less from end of CB2. March 15 still falls under 'less', anyway.

I don't get it, I've recommended Grand Fantasia to /jp/ multiple times and yet for some reason you guys end up flocking to terrible games like FEZ and Rose Online.

>>4543731
Already uninstalled those

>>4543731
Grind Fantasia is no fun.

Why doesn't /jp/ play Pangya? It's all so moe and sparkly.

>>4543771
It's not bad when playing with bros, plus they usually turn on double EXP once or twice a week

>>4543775
Why play Pangya when the same company that localized that also localized ESS FO' LEAGUE

Anyone on /jp/ wants to try out a WoW private server together? Would love to do some raiding with you guys.

>>4543788

>>4543731
Too much people already playing that shit. I hate having to compete for grindan and stuff, and of course general faggotry. Reason why only I bother with closed betas for the most part.

>>4543788
I play pangya, would play with /jp/ bros anytime

>>4544323
Well I play S4 and I'll play with /jp/ bros anytime

I'm trying out Divinia.

Pangya bro here. I think this needs it's own thread.

>>4544392
Her feet are bigger than her hips.
Not sure if want.

How's the gameplay?

>>4544567
Average, I guess. It's hard to say at this point. I only have 3 abilities, one of which, is a buff. I'm going to job change soon.

The gameplay was decent when I played EuphRO2 a long time ago. The main problem with the game at the time was that it was unfinished, and a lot of things were broken (like the Clown class). The admin hosting it wasn't doing anything with it either.

Divinity, from what I've read, has done a lot of work on the game.

>>4544567
RO2 sucks compared to the original RO

RO2 is very fluid. The problem is, it doesn't have the same class depth as its predecessor. The stat point system was also dumbed down considerably and has far less impact on your character.

haven't played Pangya in a long time. Downloading

It's been a while since I've played Pangya.

Anyone try Mortal Online Open Beta? Very interesting ideas behind this one, though I heard that it's still far from finished.

Anyone still play NEO?
Also, Kingdom Heros and Craft of Gods have open beta signups right now, or are those not weeaboo enough for y'all?

>>4545051
Played it, I'll tell you simply: don't even bother downloading it.

It's an unfinished mess with terrible programmers behind it. Just pretend it doesn't exist.

Ah /jp/, welcome to the classic MMO payer's conundrum: Everything new and modern is shit.

Aion's getting a metric shit tonne of updates coming up:

http://powerwiki.na.aiononline.com/aion/Korean+PTS%3A+March+3rd+Test+Server+Update+1.9+Announcement

http://www.aionsource.com/forum/aion-discussion/109084-2-0-new-zones-level-55-wings.html

The second link mentions that updates are about 3.6 gigs in total size.
lol

>>4544392
>>4544392
I like this art style. And she actually looks flat and like a loli. Wow.

>>4544392 >>4544656
Might try this with you later, in-between messing around with ROSE and Bad Company 2.

Oh, Aika OB, where are you ;_;

>>4544392
>>4544656

This game looks perfect graphically.

>>4545442

Personally I didn't like Aika. I found the gameplay to be what i've experienced elsewhere except for raising the lolis... and honestly I'd prefer to make a loli character than raise one.

>>4545451
Did you miss the delicious pvp and raiding?
The best part about Aika is seeing delicious tears at the forum after the pvp wars.

>>4545464
Those are certainly elements exclusive to Aika only.

>>4545464
You mean like every MMO that's come before that's had pvp and raiding?

>>4545510
>>4545553
lol u mad?

>>4545510
>>4545553
don't remember any of them having nation dynamics where you basically rule the nation with a couple of alliance guilds and decide which other nations to attack or ally with, and then weekly you would have to defend your reign on the nation or have another guild leader become the nation leader

seems like most people who didn't like aika, have never experienced relic raiding and defending
there is also altar raiding but i don't think any of us tried that out yet, we mostly did relics

>>4546002
We did try it out. Problem was, the level cap made it so that we were too weak to mount a successful altar raid due to how powerful the guards were in comparison to us.

>>4546054
ah must've not been around for that, that sucks

How many PvP based games had 24/7 raid based gameplay? As in, there was a real incentive to attack the other teams.

Aika was up for what...15 days total? I've participated in at least twice as many raids, probably more so, and no one raided the first ~2 days of CB1.

PvP is a constant affair, all the time, anywhere. There can't be more than a handful of MMOs that do this similarly, and of those, probably one or two that aren't ass.

Let's stop pretending this game invented any of these pvp dynamics, they've been done before. Was an "ok" game though. 'Cause it was free.

>>4546363

Where did anyone say Aika invented them? I don't believe anyone but yourself has said that.

The point is Aika does them well enough, it's fun, and it's free. Most MMOs fail 2/3rds of these.

>>4546363
I would pretend nothing of the sort. The game was "ok" and only made tolerable by playing with the people here. The prans were a nice little bonus, though.

>>4546388
Any game is "fun" if you play it with the right people. This is why people are raiding in WoW as we speak.

White Knight Chronicles /jp/ Edition
Now you too can white knight bad MMOs on /jp/!

>>4546421

Fair enough, I don't disagree with you. Just saying that if it wasn't for the PvP, most would have dropped it by now, instead of sitting around eagerly awaiting their next chance to play.

It's been done before, yeah, but originality doesn't coincide with quality, that's all.

reinstalling DFO
someone stop me

>>4546466
Don't do it.

>>4546466
Nexon
Megaphones

>>4546466
clickclickclickclickclickclickclickclickclickclickclickclickclickclickclickclickclickclickclickclick
clickclickclick

Spend mawney, make mawney, etc.

Does anyone know if chars made in Aika's OB will transfer to live or if they'll be wiped at the end of OB? IE will it be OB into prelaunch/launch or OB wipe into launch?

>>4546466
5 a month to sell things. Selling that requires you to AFK.

>>4546810
OB is more or less live.

>>4546810
iirc the only wipe is from CB -> OB

Play dungeon fighter, LET THE PARTY GET CARAYZEE

Oh man, cant wait for OB. You hoes better leave some space open for me in the guild this time.

>>4546002
>relic raiding
Unless it's a Graphical update of DAoC with Lolis and an exact Parallel to the Heretic class I don't care. Don't use terms like relic raid lightly.

DAoC players know what real realm vs realm combat and relic raiding are like. Anything that falls even slightly short of that will be met with nothing but the most utter distaste.

I think I'm going to try out the DiviniaRO2 deal instead. There have been exactly three MMOs and one Online RPG I've like: DAoC, RO and Mabinogi for the MMOs followed by Guild Wars in the Online RPG slot.

>>4547648

I don't think we've discussed this fully, but I believe the ones getting in first are the ones who played the most.

That way they can work on getting the guild/themselves leveled up quickly, so the rest can join.

Up to glorious leader though.

I liked DFO. :<

http://de.sg.gpotato.eu/

I wish they'd translate this into english. But they're taking their super sweet time.

>>4547662

Please explain to us who didn't play DAoC what it was like. You've got me curious.

>>4547690
it was alright

>>4547690
By today's standards?

The UI and your ways of interacting with the world and moving your character in the world are primitive.

In terms of then?

Dark Age of Camelot pioneered Realm versus Realm combat. There were three realms connected to each other by Frontiers. There were keeps and relic keeps. Each realm had relics. A relic raid involved capturing keeps and then eventually raiding the relic keep. Relic raids sometimes involved hundreds of players on all sides.

Capturing relics gave your entire realm bonuses. Later they implemented keeps that particular guilds could capture and gain bonuses for themselves (just the guild). The keeps could actually belong to the guilds that had captured them, all the way down to displaying the Guild's Colors and Emblem.

Dark Age of Camelot also pioneered some of the most original Classes ever conceived at the time - though they've been tirelessly copies since. The heretic class pioneered channeled spells, the Vale walker was a cloth wearing melee class that actually worked, the animist pioneered turret pets that could proc buffs, damage, debuffs etc...

Pretty much everything you found in DAoC other MMOs have copied without thanks since then, and WoW most of all. Countless others the savage as the first truly successful unarmed class in an MMO, the banshee one of the first classes based around shapeshifting (though the hero and berserker did have shape shifting on long cooldowns before - the Banshee used it all the time), Even DAoC's use of hotbars which, while primitive compared to how we use hotbars now, was revolutionary at the time (right down to being able to bind macros to the hotbars).

Of course none of it's original or revolutionary now.

Stop saging this thread.

>>4547756
and everquest was at least twice as revolutionary but i'm not going to gush on and on about it

>>4547785
>saging

Fuck off.

>>4547785
Stop being a retard

>>4547808
>>4547800
Dont post with sage in your email field newfags.

>>4547821
sage

age

I still laugh at how 4chan doesn't understand what sage means.

If only I knew moon so I wouldn't have to spend time on a board that imports foreign concepts and then DOES IT WRONG all the time.

Using sage as a way to "insult" someone's post or thread is just completely wrong and a retarded misuse of a good feature that is so popular in sites like 2ch and Futaba. Fuck, iichan and 4-ch do it right. It's just 4chan and 4chan's lame knockoffs that fail at using sage.

The true meaning of sage means that YOUR POST isn't worthy enough to bump the thread. It's ironic, because you think that you're insulting others while you're just, in fact, insulting yourself. Yes, sage can be used when posting a derogatory comment in a thread that you don't want to bump, but posting with just the word "sage" accomplishes nothing but contribute to spamming the board. The trend of replying with the name of a tripfag and sage is even worse, as it accomplishes nothing and only serves to increase the e-penis of whoever you're "attacking".

The sage feature was never meant to serve as an implied insult or general disagreement! Why people started using it that way is beyond me. There are plenty of reasons why one would choose not to bump a thread with his reply. For example, bumping threads with stupid one liner replies should be discouraged and those people should be coerced into using sage instead.

I want to use sage, yet I almost never do it on 4chan because people will jump on me thinking I'm insulting their post or something.

>>4547828
You really need to learn how things work around here.

Hmm, I almost regret ignoring all those Aika threads in the past. Is PvP always on?

>>4547835
It doesn't matter because people use sage to show they don't like a thread.

sage

go play Ragnarok Online

>>4547858
why so sage

>>4547841
With Aika there is a PvE or PvP channel you can play join, and switch between them within 5 seconds. I guess it could be used to avoid a nation when they invade areas for safe travel and save money on possible repair bills. On the other hand, monsters in the PvP channel have less HP so it relieves the grind a little.

>>4547857
People? Idiots.

>>4547878
Yeah, I don't think I even once went on the PVE channel, and never had anyone try to PK me outside of the relic raids.

>>4547872
What happened to /jp/RO?

Really? Well i'm aging this thread because i think my comment is worthy enough to bump it up.

Take that you saging faggots.

>>4547873
wynaut

>>4547902
dead since the beginning
I'm sad /jp/ doesn't play RO anymore

>>4547756
Well, sounds like Aika stole the Relic system from DAoC, and dungeons and shit from WoW.

Have you lot already decided on what nation you'll be joining this time, or are you going to wait until it's closer to OB?

>>4547988
Waiting for the decisions from our glourious leader.

Personally, I'm hoping for Lenaria, since that one will probably have the least amount of people.

Yeah, that never worked. Maybe I'll actually try Aika in OB. Until then, DFO.

#hotglue @ rizon

>>4548019
A certain someone would be pretty mad and frustrated if we just walk in Lenaria and take it over. Anyway we might not even matter or do it due to our small size and our crafting nature.

bump

>>4547662
Stop whining and play OB with us--we need excellent PvPers to fortify our ranks so we can continue to be the dominant guild in the game.

>>4549442
You mean to continue taking it easy?

All this striving to be the best, what a bother~

>>4549978
I hear you. It seems like the game was made for taking it easy and playing with your Pran, but since you had to play to play (lol), we just kind of wound up at the top by accident.

As for FEZ, the client refuses to run. Silent exit, and the forum solutions are of no use. I can't take it easy like this ;_;

>>4550953
Exactly, but I think there's more than a few of us in the guild who's starting to get drunk on that status. And pretty much all throughout CB2 there was some Hotglue event going on to make us seem like hot shit or something, I think we need to tone that vanity down a bit go back to our taking it easy roots.
Well, I'm pretty sure we won't be able to sustain our position during OB, so it'll probably happen naturally anyhow.

I'm in the process of making sure we can take it easy in OB by trying to kill off any guild drama before it even begins.

>>4551200
I'm not going to burden myself with trying to be the best either way. I'm going to play when I feel like it and do what I think is fun. If that doesn't fit with our glorious leader's plans I guess I'll waste my time on something else.

So far it's been a blast and hopefully we'll keep going as before and not get butthurt ourselves if the pinoys or someone else comes out on top.

>>4551296
>I'm not going to burden myself with trying to be the best either way. I'm going to play when I feel like it and do what I think is fun.

That's my only plan. The instant the game becomes un-fun is the instant I'll quit.

If we happen to be the best while still being able to take it easy, great. If we don't, big deal. If the retarded drama I'm trying to avoid doesn't blow over, we'll simply be switching nations and laying low.

That said, we've got both competitive and relaxed players in our guild, and they're all equally important. I'll just try and set up the best situation for everyone.

>>4551597
You're the best Namae, never change.

mabinogi is a better MMO

in spite of being run by nexon

>>4551597
Did you ever get a chance to say "take it easy" over nation chat?

>>4551652
It was either the first or second thing I said, I think.

>>4551597
Sure you will, bro. Sure you will. But corruption is an inevitability in all things good. So I'll savor this moment while I still can ;-;

>>4552391
So... that means corrupted prans are the best kinds of pran?

So if Prans eventually become able to fight and be killed what determines their combat capabilities/class? Personality? There are 6 personalities and 6 classes right?
Cute, Sexy, Intelligent, Tough, Outgoing and Fallen?

Not completely related, but anyone know of any good FEZ doujins?

>>4552558
the only fez one i know is victim girls

>>4547835
I've had whole conversations with anons on /jp/ using sage primarily because I don't think the thread I've started is worth bumping continuously to page 0. Especially if I just have a question that's easily answered. /jp/ is one of the few places I've seen where sage is used at least sometimes correctly.

Who wants to play with me on Dungeons and Dragons Online?

It is seriously the best of the free MMOs. I'm willing to join any server with anons willing to play.

>>4552661
5/10 points because the irony amused me.

>>4552683
Understandably I was about to bump the thread with my request people join DDO so I saw no point in using sage. I will use it in this instance just to keep you happy oh great overlord of the internet.

>>4552680
Not weeaboo enough. That, and I'm sick of the DnD conventions.

>>4552743
Sad because there is honestly no better free MMO but you are correct it isn't weaboo

I think I like drama and forum tears more than taking it easy.

>>4552822
I didn't like DnDOnline very much myself, too grindy and boring. Even with friends/help.

>>4552853
grindy? grindy? DDO? Interesting, I never found it grindy. I guess it gets that way after you've played for months but I dunno I always found it entertaining. When I got bored in the higher levels I just created new classes.

>>4552680
I have never been able to get Turbine's games to work on any of my computers. That goes for DDO and LotRO. I just get a black screen after server select. I think it's a compatibility issue with Creative soundcards. I've never been able to resolve it, even after trying everything on their support forums. It's kind of disappointing they've never bothered to address the issue, even after a year.

Damnit /jp/, you just had to reawaken my MMO addiction, and cut me off abruptly like this. What do? What do? ;_;

>>4553824
>what do?
Wait out the painful time between CB2 and OB like the rest of us.

>>4553850
Establish your dominance by taking it from behind?

>>4553824
Come play loli golf with me?

>>4553927
Why do you people always turn anti-aliasing off?

>>4553945
You can turn it on? Hmmmmmmmmm.

>>4553945
jaggies4lyfe

>>4553927
I wish to be the little Kooh. Fuck I want that swimsuit too.

>>4553950
Go to your video card's settings, choose a game, and turn anti-aliasing on for it.

Lenaria is a good option. I doubt HotGlue can take the lord marshal position again with other guilds already forming alliances for OB. The competition has been taken up a few notches.

>>4553945
What is anti-aliasing?

>>4553993
Proving dominance already, I think it's time to take it easy.

>>4554003
nevermind, I know what is is now, why do you turn it off?

>>4553993
I'd be up for this, if only for the opportunity to become LM and make Surtic butthurt enough to ragequit, heh.

">>4553993
Proving dominance already, I think it's time to take it easy."
There was no dominance to be honest. Castle Siege was won through the help of a few guilds. And Feonir won Cb2 thanks to the effort of everyone.

>>4553978
Found some setting in my graphic's card control panel to turn anti aliasing on, maybe that did it, I dunno. I'm not too keen on the whole anti aliasing business, I'm pretty much a computer moron.

>>4553968
The swimsuits were an event give away last year around June, they're gone now. Though over summer they had some pretty slutty swimsuits for Kooh for sale, maybe they'll bring back a new one this year?

3DPD

>>4554003
Feature which gets rid of the jagged edges on 3D models

>>4554037

>Though over summer they had some pretty slutty swimsuits for Kooh for sale

Pics where?

>>4554037
Yeah, I remember that. It was a random character swimsuit, I kept on getting shit ones and couldn't trade them off.

I do have the summer two piece bikini though.

>>4553993
>>4554005
>>4554022
>>4554031
We should relax and let diplomacy do the work for us.
Sit back and enjoy and let other people do the hard work.

so what mmo is /jp/ playing now or everyone is going their separate ways until OB aika?

>>4554031
You have already forgotten the first closed PvP contest?

>>4554031
Let's face it. We are the only reason why Fenrior won. We had the most strength out of the guilds there by a good amount

Let's play Allods.

>>4554077
Maybe you could ask
>>4554080
Because I never bought it. It was GODDAMN SLUTTY though and made me feel bad for the little Kooh to be forced into wearing it. I ended up buying the microphone set of clubs and keeping the event swimsuit because I couldn't bring myself to make Kooh such a slut

>>4554062
If I turn it off (assuming I had it on) would my games run a bit better?
Just asking...hypothetically of coarse.

>>4554125
hate to break you from your delusional fanboy world, but no we weren't. It's ok to have guild pride, but let's not stick our heads up our own butts. I saw larger guilds around.

>>4554031
That's really not correct.

Point for point, we were the single most successful guild in the game. We won everything that was possible to win, except an Altar attack.

But we'll still take it easy in OB if that's what we have to do to avoid drama.

System requirements, guys? Will a shitty 128MB integrated gfx card work?

>>4554155
Damn you, now I'm doubly interested.

>>4554178
This.
Only reason why we dominated was because the pinoys let us and backed us up. Good job to our GLORIOUS leader for having such a high charisma.

YOUR PRANS ARE ALREADY DELETED. THEY ARE ALREADY DEAD. YOU CANNOT SEE THEM EVER AGAIN. ENJOY ONE MONTH BEING PRAN-LESS.

>>4554243
This is what it looked like, from behind I guess, fanart but it's what google hits on a Pangya Kooh Bikini search

>>4554287
>AikaEN 2010-03-02 16-18-12-93.avi
>http://aika.gpotato.com/images/m/lastday1.jpg

My Pran lives on forever.

>>4554258
While I agree with you on the Pinnoy part. They weren't the only guild who helped us achieve LM. We had Aura, Vanguard, And Brutality as well. All of us against one. I would of had more fun if it were us and XII, vs vanguard/aura and brutality, and have the resonance guild as the 3rd alliance. Castle Siege was boring and un-eventful. We did however win the tournament with no one's help.

>>4554232
Should be no problem,I am using a shitty laptop to run Aika except that i get major lag went i run into big pvp mobs

>>4554432
BRutality wasn't in the siege; XIII, Dominon, and Aura in total only brought in marginally more than we did alone.

Of course, these numbers combined still terribly outnumbered Resonance, even after dealing with friendly-fire, the difficulty of getting proper targets with the interference, and having no idea how the siege worked.

But that was never the point, the point was to avoid something I was quite concerned about--a total lockout. This exact situation manifested itself in Lenaria.

Aika revolves around competitive PvP. It's fine if we're not one of the top guilds in OB, but that certainly doesn't mean we can't strive to be a serious competitor. There's nothing wrong with wanting to take it easy, but don't assert that everyone in the guild should. The people only playing for the novelty of having prans are going to be the first ones to get bored and quit.

Now, we certainly did let our status go to our heads during CB2. I can almost guarantee that we won't see the same amount of dominance in OB. Regardless of our actual performance or numbers, we held the significant nation achievements and stole the spotlight during closed beta. The other guilds will ally against us next time around, and the moment we aren't at the top, we'll never hear the end of it, even if we do just take it easy. It is for that reason, I'd highly suggest moving to another nation for OB.

>>4554635
Solid advice, I like it.

>>4554635
>The other guilds will ally against us next time around, and the moment we aren't at the top, we'll never hear the end of it, even if we do just take it easy.

Not if I can help it. The only iffy factors I have yet to deal with are mina, who I haven't been in contact with since before the siege, and the guild Nexus, who I don't know anyone from.

But in the case that I can't get everything smoothed out, we will indeed be moving. I fucking loathe drama.

>>4554780
Don't kid yourself. I don't care what they may tell you. I'm sure XIII, Lust, Vanguard, etc. have grown tired of seeing us at the top all through closed beta. I would not at all be surprised to find ourselves in a similar situation to what Resonance had at the last castle siege (our supposed allies turning against us).

They certainly don't seem to look at us too favorably on the forums. They may not necessarily say anything bad about us, but they don't defend us or say anything positive about us either. And there's quite a bit of animosity towards us.

I think you're a good leader Namae, and you probably do better than anyone else here could, but I think you're beginning to overestimate your diplomatic abilities.

>>4554812
That's what my impression was too, throughout my CB2 experience. Some of their members often just short of outright shun me whenever I first tried to interact with them after the castle siege. There's definitely some resentment going around, which I doubt will be fully resolved short of a change in the seat of power. I'd be watching your back very closely come open beta.

>>4554812
I don't want Namae to feel insulted, so I just want add:

I've been playing MMO's for a long, long time. I've been in countless guilds and even co-founded a couple of successful guilds, myself. Namae, I have the utmost respect for you and consider you to be the best GM I have ever had the pleasure of playing with. You manage the guild well, coordinate with other guilds, and effectively keep drama to a bare minimum, or nip it in the butt before it even happens. I'm just offering my opinion that I think you should take into account.

>>4554812
>but they don't defend us or say anything positive about us either
>And there's quite a bit of animosity towards us.

I can't really agree that. Could you give me some examples? I'm more than open to suggestions and insight.

To try and back up my end up the arguement, I'm reasonably confident of the reliability of XIII (they gave me their passworded vent info) and Vanguard (constant contact in-game, along with some choice forum posts), and glances at something like Lust's (God and Ryan, their leaders, both vouched for Hotglue going contrary to one of their own member's posts) and Resonance's (they let Lyin make a forum account) private forum show most of their people are in tune with a peaceful Feonir.

>but I think you're beginning to overestimate your diplomatic abilities.
Maybe, but I think you might underestimate what is probably a similarly extensive experience in dealing with guilds, assuming >>4554884 is you.

Anyways, as always, I'm open to anything. All I can really say other than that is I'm doing my best to be careful.

>>4555027
Also, if you're willing to funnel some of them energy towards helping me run the guild and handle the current situation, feel free to offer up.

The guild got far larger than I ever imagined it would, along with the current situation being troublesome--though not nearly as bad as some nations have to deal with.

>>4555027
>I can't really agree that. Could you give me some examples? I'm more than open to suggestions and insight.

On the contrary, I challenge you to show examples where Hotglue has been referred to positively. I've seen a handful of positive comments directed at Namae, but not at the guild as a collective enitity. I've seen feonirgod conveniently sidestep the subject several times, but never vouch for us, at least not publicly.

As another anon said, I noticed a lot of resentment directed at us in-game after the castle siege. I really don't see that going away, either.

>Maybe, but I think you might underestimate what is probably a similarly extensive experience in dealing with guilds, assuming >>4554884 is you.

Yes, >>4554884 is me. If you have extensive experience with guilds, then I'm sure you're also painfully aware that vent access and forum registration don't amount to much. However, I don't know everything that's been going on behind the scenes, so I'll refrain from further comment and take your word for it.

I still think you're looking at things with rose-tinted glasses.

>>4555163
>Hotglue has been referred to positively.
Put is this way, imagine some noname guild that doesn't talk in game, minimal forum posts besides kritz (we don't even have a thread dedicated to our guild), raid just among ourselves, basically "dominated" against every other guilds in the same nation?

How would you feel if you are those huge guild like BResonance or those vanov guilds that move to feonir and then spam the forum like no tomorrow or maybe Surtic? You would be jealous and envy of them as well.

There is a reason why some people think we are xenophobic racist japanese.

>>4555059
If you feel like you need help, all you ever have to do is ask any of us.

>>4555059
Sure, let me know what I can do to help. Anywho, I've gone off track. I really didn't mean to argue with you, although my last post would suggest otherwise.

I just think we would be better off with a completely clean slate on a different nation. Would you be willing to consider putting it up to a vote when it comes closer to OB? It could be done in IRC to prevent people from voting more than once.

>>4555232
That pretty much reinforces what I've been saying, but you are entirely correct.

>>4555232
we don't mean to be xenophobic and we do talk to other people besides our own guild.
the thing is we were just taking it easy throughout the whole game.
somehow we just ended up beating everyone else thanks to our alliances, and/or they just sucked at the game, while taking a very relaxed stance, doing things just because they were fun and not to rule the nation.
that's when people started hating us. they're just sore about them putting in effort to win, while we took it easy all the way while emerging victorious.

>>4555237
>I just think we would be better off with a completely clean slate on a different nation.
I actually wanted to move for another reason. I am not too sure I can be happy being in the same nation as people that swap nation just to be on the winning side.

Remember. Even Lingo doesn't really like us.

I vote we move to a new server and take it easy in OB

While we are voicing our dissents and complaints, might as well put out mines. Too many times I just felt like a unappreciated cog on a wheel in the guild, and often even it feels like I'm invisible (it's like I'm filtered in the guild chat or some shit)! Maybe it's because I wasn't in the first closed beta, or I don't join in irc circlejerk, but still, feels bad man. It's pretty sad when most of the help I've gotten came from outside the guild.

>>4555354
Blame the class/level distribution.

All the clerics were in the lower level bracket.
All the paladins were in the higher level bracket.

>>4555346
From what I understand, having talked to Namae, that is entirely unfounded conjecture and mostly joking. Lingo seemed to be on relatively friendly terms with Namae, even discussing the censor issue. However, I'm still all for moving to a different server.

>>4555369
Even more basic than that, even. Despite the General shout faggotry, I still have to keep it on often for Q/A - I gave up trying to ask in guild chat because people just straight up ignore me for some reason. And then I see some other dude ask pretty much the same thing and is answered. That's why I mentioned the closed beta/irc thing - feels like if weren't part of them, you're second-class member in the guild.

>>4555354
I'd second the class/level distribution comment. I only able to play the first day of CB2, but it certainly wasn't like that in the first closed beta. If you were civil, the guild was usually more than happy to help, all you had to do was ask. However, with only 6 days to get from 30-50, and castle siege and nation raids in such a short time, everyone was probably trying to focus on their own thing. I doubt it'll be a problem in OB.

I'm sure minas guild will be the one to look out after in ob. they have allies coming from other nations, and from other games from what i understand. Nexus seem to be 1 of them. And after having 5 guilds vs them in cs, i think they will be out for revenge specially against xiii who betrayed them.

>>4555403
You are thinking too hard.
It is probably just a random occurrence.

>>4555346
by server you mean nation?

>>4555354
at times i feel the same way, but sometimes there's too much stuff chat and i miss out on stuff, so not trying to ignore anyone or anything

>>4555237
Yeah, I was considering some sort of voting option to see where everyone wants to go.

>>4555234 >>4555237
Thanks, it's more that trying to handle all of our guild stuff, which is the most important by an infinite factor, along with the hurrr politics is a bit of a pain. But there's already a simple option to deal with the later, and that's leaving Feonir. And the former is something I don't mind dealing with at all.

>>4555406
During CB1 and CB2, I would sometimes ask if anyone needed help and get no answer. After a couple times of this happening, I usually just spent my time afk in Regenshein, checking back every so often to feed or talk to my pran; so it's more than likely I missed some stuff.

Most of the time I played with shout and the whitetext chat off, too. I'll state it right now, though: the very thought of there being some sort of caste system amongst a guild composed entirely of people who frequent /jp/ is highly ridiculous. I've said it before, but none of us are any more important than the rest of us.

>>4555615
>ask if anyone needed help and get no answer
If there's no answer, there's no problem.
Like a command line interface.

>>4555577
Cool deal. Well, like Vita said, just let us know if you need/want help with anything.

>>4555354 >>4555403
Sorry you felt that way, if it's any comfort, I didn't even join the IRC a single time until after CB2 ended.

In the future, you can message me in game with a question and I'll answer you if I missed a question in guild chat. And the whole IRC circlejerk thing is exactly why I wasn't terribly fond of the idea in the first place; however, after having joined it it certainly doesn't seem to be at all like that.

But yeah, I know I didn't pay nearly enough attention to the lower-level guys--I had a lot to deal with in-game. Sorry about that.

>>4555814
also keep in mind that there's a few situations where people literally cannot respond (from inside battlegrounds), or can't safely respond (dungeons), both of which tied up the higher level groups occasionally.

So will guilds be reset too in OB? It'd be nice if we could keep that at least.

If now though, how long does grinding guild levels take? Maybe we should set up an overflow guild or two until we can accomendate everyone.

>>4556243
It shouldn't be too hard to only accommodate only the "online" players at any time.
Don't think there is any cooling off period if you leave a guild so we can just keep all the online players in the guild and kick the offline players. That way we can grind the guild level faster. Give invite privilege to everyone and get whoever that is online in the guild.

>>4556308
That sounds pretty troublesome, really. But I guess it'll do.