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SEX with NIISAN

OK, here's the first question. How did the character "Arcueid" come about?

>Takeuchi: I think she was originally one of Nasu's ideas for use in a novel.
>Nasu: Ah, right. She wasn't the cheerful vampire she is now, but more of a cold one.
>Takeuchi: Oh really?
>Nasu: She was a stereotypical vampire.
>Takeuchi: She's always been cute in my mind...
>Nasu: The Arcueid we know now is the total opposite. And the main character used to be middle-aged. (laugh)
>Takeuchi: Middle-aged?
>Nasu: Shiki was an old, worn-down killer.
>Takeuchi: That doesn't sound very lovely.
>Nasu: It wasn't a lovely story. I mean, he even says to Arcueid when she approaches him "I have no interest in women I've already killed once." Anyway, the original story was completely different than what it is now. Only the keyword concept of "a biting relationship between a murderer who can see lines of death and a vampire" remained.

Noel...had a hard life.

>>45407859
i don't think i could fix her but i would at least want to make her happy.

>>45407353
Lady Arcueid is the best. She lets me live in Castle Brunestud as an Alchemist.

>>45407859
>tells any guys who wouldn't pump&dump to fuck off and die
Women deserve no pity or remorse.

What do heroic spirits even do when they have no grail to fight for

>>45409475
That's hot

>>45409501
Sleep.

>>45409501
They learn how to cook from Benienma

>>45410408
Retarded. Especially thinking back on the series roots and even that memorial video.
I prefer the idea that they're in a void of nothingness occasionally viewing a record of one of their summons or something bleak and not gagshit.

red garden doko

>officially canonically jobbed to gacha protagonist

How are you still a fan of this franchise?

>>45411904

>>45411878
I mean it's not even a character so it's kind of boring to begin with. Like, it's not even good as far as doomsday enemies go. To make it less interesting it got the "variant" and mega nerfed treatment on top of being in a story and game that can't convey danger or the weight of life well. All in all, it was "cool" but forgettable entirely. Not really anything to think about beyond "Well, I wonder what the cooler ones(DAA) are like". I also wouldn't say it jobbed, and certainly not to a human being. It took everything that world had and still only died to itself(It's heart's power).

>>45410921
Jokes are the biggest canom; see Neko Arc.

>>45411878
It didn't? Nasu explicitly stated he couldn't have the protagonist defeat ORT precisely because "monsters are monsters because humans cannot defeat them". ORT was defeated by Kukulcan; it's own heart.

I mean it's not even a character so it's kind of boring to begin with. It's not even good as far as doomsday enemies go. To make it less interesting it got the "variant" and mega nerfed treatment on top of being in a story and game that can't convey danger or the weight of life well. All in all, it was "cool" but forgettable entirely. Not really anything to think about beyond "Well, I wonder what the cooler ones(DAA) are like". I also wouldn't say it jobbed, and certainly not to a human being. It took everything that world had and still only died to itself with it's heart's power. On top of that one of the more interesting parts was not even present and instead summarized in 2 seconds in an interview.

>>45411878
nigga I literally read about japanese teenagers fucking some sort of moon alien in the form of a beautiful blonde white woman, an immortal french whore and a lovable 14 yo girl king Arthur. If you think that's going to faze me you're dead wrong

>>45394751
It's the Nasu special, a followup which is supposedly taking place well after the original and possibly a sequel or two whilst being 90% gagshit.

>>45410921
They also chat through some social network inside the Throne

>>45413125
Gagshit to be ignored.

>>45410408
>>45413125
The Throne seems like a chill place.

Can Princess Arc manipulate parallel worlds created on Earth?

>>45413210
Except when it's not since that's one of the various things that becomes consistently worse the more it's talked about. Some things should just remain mystery.

aoko bra

How do you even beat Arcueid?

>>45413741
get her to kill herself. or sex.

>>45413741
You befriend her. Best fights are won without beating someone.

>>45407353
This sounds better. It seems he always compromises his ideas to make something chuuni to bait coomers. If he continues like this, he'll never write a real fantasy or sci fi work.

>>45409501
They become filthy wagies
Parasites on society
Gas them

What is your favorite Nasuverse manga?

>>45411878
Women with powers and abilities beyond human comprehension losing to the cock is the essence of the Nasuverse, why would it be different now?

>>45414176
ORT lost to a heart attack.

imouto butt

>>45413764
>Get her to kill herself
Wtf that's horrible I could never
>or sex
I'll go for the first option

>>45414120
Probably the heavens feel manga but I'm a sakura fag so bias is quite strong

>>45411878
I stop giving a shit since the shameless Saberface like that big boob version of Saber or Rin with red eyes to pander the player.

>>45415249
It's ok. Arc can't ever kill herself.

Saber is a whore

>>45416192

>>45412053
Cope

>>45413764
>implying you can make her cum

How will Type Moon celebrate Fate's 20th anniversary?

>This Illusion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsYZy1g8jGs
>Disillusion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qy7Q77ZD_ME
>Fate (Vita)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9MS3Pwzrio
>UBW (Vita)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZQ5qOsovvI
>HF (Vita)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnC3QyXawqY

>>45416358
Hopefully a post-grail Ova on either UBW or Fate.
also
>Disillusion (2010)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iD3396VxaEY

>>45416358
Interview, artbook, exhibit.

>>45416322
but you imply you have confidence in my ability to make her kill herself. i won't let you down, anon.

>>45416445
Pls anon make Saber kill herself

>>45416383
With a short memorial video maybe. I don't expect much.

>>45416451
What did Saber do to you?

>>45416358
1996 - Nasu explicitly admitted to being inspired to write the first draft of Mahoyo after seeing Eva
1998-1999 - Kara no Kyoukai
2000 - Tsukihime
2001 - Kagetsu Tohya
2003 - Melty Blood and Tsuki-Bako
2004 - Fate/stay night
2005 - Fate/hollow ataraxia
2006 - Fate/Zero
2007 - Fate/stay night Realta Nua for PS2
2008 - Girls Work, Tsukihime Remake and Mahoutsukai no Yoru trilogy announcement
2010 - Fate/Extra
2010 - Mahoyo, Part 1
2012 - Fate/Apocrypha and Fate/stay night Realta Nua for PSV
2013 - Fate/Extra CCC
2014 - Fate/hollow ataraxia for PSV
2015 - FGO
2016 - FGO and Fate/Extella
2017 - FGO
2018 - FGO, Fate/Extra: Last Encore and Fate/Extella Link
2019 - FGO
2020 - FGO
2021 - Tsukihime, Part 1
2022 - FGO
2023 - FGO
2024 - FGO

>What is 『Fate』 to TYPE-MOON?

Nasu: 5 years ago we said that "this will not go beyond one product," but even saying TYPE-MOON now is just another word for 『Gundam』. It just keeps changing forms and moving forward. That’s not to say we’re just artificially extending it, of course. 『Fate/EXTRA』 was a good test for us. It was fun to write, and fun to make. If the players also enjoys it then it’s a Win-Win, is it not?

Takeuchi: As a product I do feel like it has grown much more than I expected. Whenever we said that 『Fate』 was over and done with, it would refuse to die. I suppose it’s only natural to love and revere something that you have spent so much time cultivating and being so fulfilled by, and to become so attached to it. I don’t mean to be obsessive, but I do want to treat this with utmost care, as we have done up until this point.

Nasu: This is for us what 『Final Fantasy』 is for Square Enix. On a way smaller scale, of course!

Takeuchi: I know you may sometimes think "Not another 『Fate』!" but even "another" 『Fate』 game wouldn’t be 『Fate』 at all.

>>45416746
>2010 - Mahoyo, Part 1
hah
Also missing other meltys, tsuki no sango, and some other games.

>>45416602
She ate all of sakura's groceries:c

>>45407353
>>Nasu: It wasn't a lovely story. I mean, he even says to Arcueid when she approaches him "I have no interest in women I've already killed once."
"No way, fag"

>>45412379
*vessel copypastische of parasitic moon alien

>>45416746
Timeline of how a company sells its soul.
Though you missed MBTL and Mahoyo Sam Rem so you missed the "Maybe they can have a redemption arc"

What makes Tsukihime better than FSN is the atmosphere, you can feel the danger, the drama, the mindfuck. The music does a better job to add to the atmosphere than FSN. The characters interactions are so superior to the character interactions of FSN that it hurts, and the slice of life segments and Shirou's point of view is fucking annoying. FSN plot is too forced at times, some times they lead to plot holes,weak plot or unexplainable developments. Tsukihime's plot flows better, it's simple and credible.

Tsukihime's plot is also more mature, each resolution have more weight to them 1) Arc and Shiki didn't end up in good terms in Ciel's True End, 2) After every single of the Far Side of the Moon routes, Arc and Ciel will keep hunting Roa, 3) Akiha ends up as a doll in one ending, 4) Akiha and Kohaku die in another end, 5) Hisui's Good End wasn't precisely happy. In F/sn, only 2 characters couldn't be saved: 1) Ilya in UBW, 2) Saber and Ilya in HF.

Shirou never actually shows his resolve when it comes to deal with people who are prepared to kill,and the story does not have serious and mature Masters - aside from Zouken and the only time Shirou had to confront one of his friends, was in HF against Black Saber. Shiki, on the other hand, had to fight Arc, Ciel, Akiha, and Satsuki at some point - there's also the point when he realizes all what Kohaku has been doing. FSN is just too light and aimed at teenagers. That why the dark and cold as ice Tsukihime is superior.

>>45417125
grug mccaveman here. me agree. tsuki have better girls.

Why does he talk in copy-pasta's?

Post pictures of blindfolded Shiki. Do we have an official color scheme? Is it only the manga epilogue? I wonder if he's wearing blue or black.

>>45417176
he's wearing yellow

>>45417125
I didn't feel the danger, the drama and the mindfuck during Ciel True. It was bizarre and non-nonsensical.
When Shirou fought Berserker in HF it felt much more "real". Just a man against a monster. Shirou did use a superpower but it came at a cost. Which actually killed him in the end. That's why it's always fun to reread HF.

>>45417125
Nah, I disagree

Seriously though. I love how BS Arc is.
>She uses about 70% of her strength holding back her bloodlust, only uses 30%.
>Still one of the strongest characters
>If you just so happen to be stronger than her, she's gains power from the planet so she's stronger than you lol
>Most forms of magecraft don't work on her. Even True Magic only guarantees about a 30% of victory
>Oh did I forget to mention she can practically reality warp.
>If you do manage to beat her but don't drain /exhaust her magical? energy she now has no limits and bumfucks you

>>45417756
meodp gg

>>45417773
Tis but a scratch

>makes fun of Medea for being a “hag”
>still flirts with legit old ladies at work
It doesnt add up

>>45417773

>>45417756
Verbal abuse gg

>>45418267
cut this bitch connection with the planet and she is dead meat

>>45417125
This is from 2008 guys. He swapped Tsuki terms for the original(I think?) FSN terms.

>>45418440
See, here is the thing; Arc's core/heart literally exists in it's own personal universe at the beginning and end of everything temporally speaking. Reaching her heart requires exceptional and extremely contrived measures that aren't replicable by 99.9% of beings.
At best you can damage the planet's leylines. and temporarily weaken her that way.

>>45418517
I don't even think the retroflow heart scene would have happened without Shiki. His eyes basically give form to the impossible and show how to end things, in that case the luminary phenomenon.

>>45418611
And Shiki only began to see a dot in the Luminary after Arc made time itself flow backwards with full power Event Storage. Arc herself created the Retroflow phenomena, which her profile in Tsukihime Material I lists as one of her two weaknesses along with the MEoDP.
So yeah, very specific tools and circumstances.

>>45418611
I've seen people mention this. Isn't the egg basically her principle too? Principles aren't something you can generally perceive.

>>45418679
Her death mostly showed up as she walked and her body began to take on characteristics of life.

I find it funny Narita name-dropped Gaia's CF in FSF. Ishtar thinks she needs to do her texture-rewriting thing and other prep work before even thinking about dealing with Gaia's CF, and even then she is not sure. Which seems about what you would expect.
I wonder what comprises Gaia's CF in FSF world though, Arc and Primate Murder?

>>45419505
Yeah, elementals, Arc, Monsters of Gaia basically.

>>45411911
Does this end up with sex?

It's Shiki. He thinks about sex constantly.

>>45411878
>jobbed to gacha protagonist
Gacha protag lost 99% of entire Chaldea servant database while shitting himself. Dino Shiki, Olga and Kuku were mvp

>>45419505
It's SF, her best case scenario is Shiki, Arc, Ciel or some DAA skull fucking her in a decade.

>>45419790
But among those only Arc counts as Gaia's CF.
Shiki, Ciel and DAA don't count.

>>45419790
Im 99% sure Arc gets notified if something is messing with the planet, for the same reason she can sense it every time Roa is active even while sleeping at her castle. If she needed to be active/awake in order to notice something she would be pretty useless as the "administrator" of the planet, which is stated to be the main function of the planet's brain in Tsuki worlds:
>Though normally bound to the planet's interior, being a ‘soul’ (the chances of a celestial object being born in space is practically none. Force of Fate and Spacetime Causality which lets this be established is defined as a soul) meant for prolonged utilization (administration) of its celestial object, once it leaks onto the surface, it causes a system critical error.
>meant for prolonged utilization (administration) of its celestial object

>>45419845
>Arc=Gaia
>Shiki becomes Arc guardian
>therefore Shiki is Gaia CF

>>45419917
I don't think this blip of a godfailure would warrant tripping off the alarms. At least not yet. She says eventually or inevitably. She'd probably get squashed long before Arc has to do something.

when are we getting more archetype earth contents tsukibros

Once again you see "evening bells" associated with the concept of death in Strange Fake. The bells being played in Shiki's "From the Boundary" song when he levels up can't be a coincidence.

>>45420235
Serious content? Only in Tsuki R, especially Arc True and Melty and Tsuki 2.

>Tsuki 2

>>45420200
True. I wonder what would be enough to trigger Gaia's alarm. Zepia state Logos React destroying the entirety of Wales wouldn't warrant attention, though that's in Fate/Case Files.

>>45420253
anything that isn't the gacha basically. the fact that archetype earth has more screen time in the gacha since the remake released than her own fucking game is a joke. i'm curious to see how her dynamic with the cast, especially shiki will play out. will nasu reintroduce the promise to the remake continuity?

>>45420280
Still, Tsuki 2 is more likely than Mahoyo ever getting sequels as VN. That's how bad it is.

>>45420331
You will literally never get Tsuki 2, after his Asthma year Nasu has done a full 180 on his plans for FGO and decided he's going to keep it running until he fucking dies

>>45420235
I want to see her in Melty. I miss her.

>>45420293
>the fact that archetype earth has more screen time in the gacha since the remake released than her own fucking game is a joke
I wouldn't call that "screentime". Other than having a short appearance in a few Valentine's day scenes she doesn't have any kind of appearance at all in FGO.

>>45420331
>impossible thing 1 is more likely than impossible thing 2
sure bud

>>45420293
The gacha isn't serious. It's why the character isn't even present and she's not fulfilling her in character/lore role as the brain of the planet, let alone her more antagonistic traits but as just another unit on team humanity.
>archetype earth
Well, technically that's wrong since AE is just Arc's True Name. The old continuity exists still but yes I do think they'll remake the KT scene in some way. The fact that Remake is playing with the concept of dreams and Shiki&Roa being connected even in the prologue while he's Nanaya can be seen as something like progression from the CM scene in KT I believe. There you have dream with Arc, Shiki and Roa and a similarish presentation in how Shiki and Roa's thoughts are integrated. You can also see A1's line about having or had something she can't ignore, referencing Shiki and her fondness for coincidences. The creation of Arc by Shiki being referred to as a coincidence. She also makes reference to Primate Murder so we'll inevitably see Tsuki 2 stuff with Altrouge.

>>45420341
It's not a problem. I'm going to get Red Garden which will probably be TM's last visual novel, and maybe their longest too. I'm also going to get Melty Blood contents, and more Arc contents with Arc True or whatever Nasu has planned for it. The anime is probably a given too. You see, Tsukihime 2 may remain a pipe dream forever, but that doesn't change the fact that it's a real dream of Nasu's. Meanwhile, DDD will never be finished, Mahoyo will never be finished as a VN, and the chances of getting original content that isn't related to Fate or Tsukihime are practically zero. It may take a long time, but I win either way.

>>45420341
He's conveyed the sentiment twice this year in the handful of times he's spoken that he's getting old and can't keep doing it despite wanting to let addicts continue. It won't continue, at least with him, forever.

Maybe Sakurai will write Tsuki 2 while Nasu is busy writing a Christmas version of Oberon.

>>45420441
Nah, Sasaki Shounen will do Tsuki 2.

Nasu will do Tsuki 2.

>>45420488
Nice

Could a Divine Spirit that had authority over nature act like an Elemental and gain mana from Gaia?

In 2027, Type-Moon will unveil a collaboration with Nitroplus, working on a Tsukihime-related project (title still unknown). The main writers will be Urobuchi Gen and Narahara Ittetsu, the latter coming out of retirement after many lengthy discussions with Nasu and Takeuchi. Nasu will not be the main writer, but will supervise them both. The project will be a kinetic visual novel (15 hours), fully written in tategaki, focusing on expanding the "Red Demon God" side-story introduced in Kagetsu Tohya with Nanaya Kiri and Kishima Kouma as main characters. The project is still in its early stages, but I'll come back when we have more detailed informations.

>>45420613
>Nasu, Urobuchi and Narahara
A collab work between them would have too much rape to ever see the light of day.

>>45420613
anon pls

>>45420634
Too much kino.

I know that people really like Narita but man, everything I hear about Sigma just sounds way too over the top. Like a 13 year old edgy kid making an OC. What is Sigma's appeal?

>>45420853
There is none.

>>45420853
>everything I hear
hmm

So the Second Magic can revive a corpose by overwriting the world itself. I wish we ever saw some examples of Zelretch using Magic.

>>45418611
MEoDP don't form impossible, they do exactly the opposite, show where things eventually may end.
Death itself will die too, that quote wasn't metaphoric.

>>45420853
qrd?

>>45422498
Narnia?

>>45422222
It's not a true resurrection, though, is it? Parallel worlds and all.

>>45422508
Lovecraft.

>>45422507
>He's the rape baby of Maiya from Fate/Zero
>Raised by a government secret agency experimenting with magic
>Badass child soldier. Uses guns and grenades to fight
>Looks like a teenager because of the experiments done on him where he'll age slowly, but die somewhat young and age rapidly near his death
>summons a being called the Watcher who assigns him quests to turn him into a living Heroic Spirit Lancer
>goes around pretending that he summoned Heroic Spirit Charlie Chaplin
>waifus the qt False Assassin
>saves a qt loli master from her abusive parents and ends up getting a Noble Phantasm Crossbow that was used by Qin Shi Huang, the first emperor of China (you can see an alternate version of him from a Lostbelt in FGO)
>This crossbow is given to him by a spirit called by the Crossbow, implied to be one of the Vietnamese kings that kicked QSH's ass when he invaded Vietnam
>He later uses the crossbow to kill Ishtar as the guy that puts the last blow in her (the fight to kill her is like some MMO raid boss shit where multiple teams end up working together to kill her)
Really feels like some shit a teenage boy would make up.

>>45422786
>goes around pretending that he summoned Heroic Spirit Charlie Chaplin
Fucking lold. He is best character for this.

>>45422222
it's such a crime we don't get to see much of him for how important he is

Hottest character pairing?

>>45423088
you're waifu with me

>>45423088

>>45423088
Female Shirou and Shiki

>>45422498
Shiki's pure eyes give form to things that should have none. His eyes aren't only MEoDP. This is why he could manifest a SHIKI in the state of mind he was.

>>45423103
Figures that this artist just essentially traces other people's shit.

How would UBW Shirou pass his course if he can't use magecraft outside of projection and reinforcement?

>>45423669
What did he trace?

>>45424035

>>45424052
Now this is hot.

>>45424052

>>45424057

>>45423665
New lore? I can't run tsuki-re.

>>45423103
For a moment I thought that hand was a ribcage! That was lewd, ribby girls are sexy.

>>45424100
That's KT and profile stuff from back in the day. In remake he does see the end of a vampires principle. Though the actually impressive part of it is not just seeing the past and its death but actually the principle itself since it's just some light that we're told should not be possible to perceive with a cognizance that builds theories through language and memories.

>>45406785

>https://arimiadev.com/why-does-aniplex-want-mahoyo-to-fail/




AHAHAHAHHAAHHAHA

>>45424943
That's not unexpected though. They put minimal effort in F/GO's promotion even though it is supposed to be the big money printer. How many ads do you see for F/GO compared to the other gacha games? Genshin and Raid pay literally any semi-decent youtuber (especially anime youtubers) for advertising. Tsukire should probably have a bit more effort since it's a new release, but I wouldn't bet on it.

>>45425519
They will have a threesome with Rin

>>45424943
Based western division keeping mahoyo to stay niche

https://youtu.be/c26-S-ydpfc?si=CE_NEAexmlfY62sD

So what exactly happened in this bad end? Was there something equal to this in the OG?

>see a shit post of Aoko
>cannot find the original artwork anywhere
what the fuck?

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=au44H_0QujA

>LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT THE SONG "LOST" WAS ACTUALLY AN DOUJIN WORK INSPIRED FROM THE OG TSUKIHIME AND THE SONG REAPPEARED IN THE REMAKE THAT'S CRAZY AM I THE ONLY WHO DID'NT KNOW?

>>45426797
I didn't know it was inspired by the OG though I knew it was an old song. That's amazing.

>>45426709
On the surface it's a version of this bad end.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2acZ2RnD44c&list=PL44BEF9E12AB85952&index=5
But all of the changes don't make any sense without red garden context. Like what the fuck happened to Shiki? Some say he just died, others think he got locked up like SHIKI. If he just died, then who killed him and how? You could probably find the same questions in the comments of the video you posted.

>>45426953
I dont trust youtube comments, especially for TM lore stuff. There's way too much TM wiki fanfictiom/reddit head canon tier misinformation everywhere. Plus they spoiled me that Shirou was Archer when I had only watched Deen and UBW wasn't out yet.

>>45426709
If this is the bad end I think it is, the answer is "nobody know besides Nasu".

>>45427104
You have to deal with headcanon in this case since there's not enough information in the game itself.

>>45426709
Akiha turned Shiki's life support off, or reduced it at least. He's not quite dead though.

>>45427560
If you interpret it as that then what about "whydunit"? What's Akiha's motive and what does Kohaku gain from helping her (if we assume that Akiha is the mastermind and not just a perpetrator in this scenario)? Also what does Kohaku need a disguise for? In Ciel route's bad end, she never dressed as Hisui.

>>45424154
Ah, KT. I always put it off, never got around to reading it.
Thanks.

>>45426136
that's such a fujo type of gay hell that you're walking into that Archer might just kill both of them

>>45427560

>>45427745
It's directly triggered by you lying to Akiha and going out to meet with Arc, and it even says that Shiki upset something that was keeping him alive.
It's easy to imagine Hisui wouldn't agree to help with locking Shiki up so Kohaku does it instead, although that doesn't really explain why she's disguised as Hisui. She does disguise herself as Hisui in the Ciel route bad end where Shiki doesn't realise he's already killed Akiha and Hisui though.
There's clearly information that we're missing though and I wouldn't be surprised if Gouto was involved or maybe Arach.

If Nanaya genes combine with Tohno genes will the resulting baby be able to enjoy a life expectancy of 80+ years? What about Nanaya semen- can it be used to repel the inversion impulse? I wish TM was still a small company to be able to tackle these themes.

If you were gay or lesbian, what would the most ideal heroic summon be?

Rider/Medusa (as a lesbian) is already taken (by me) sorry

>>45427138
Noel will turn gay for Miyako

>>45428580
None of the male servants in fgo that swing both ways is of my liking

>>45428580
Lancer
Always Lancer

Why are mahoyo protag's tits so big? It's just unfair compared to the older heroines.
Even bigger than Medusa in the og stay night.

>>45429178
Aoko has always been a titty monster

>>45429178
Beacause Koyama. Aoko is drawn smaller by Takeuchi despite being an older version.

>>45429178

>>45429178
I hope Aoko breasts get even bigger in the movie

Imouto.

>>45411878
Arcueid lost to a high schooler with poor physical health and Gilgamesh lost to a sword autist and a cann of worms, King Arthur got wrecked by a school teacher etc. this has been part of the type moon in it's beginning. In ORT's case its not even that bad in comparison.

>>45413741
Be Universal+ yourself like Lucifer from DC or Othinus from Index

>>45429413
High chance Arc is multiverse level due to her heart being the foundation of Tsuki world. Arc herself is the reason why there is one Zelretch for Tsukihime and one for Fate.
Day 2 suggests the entire story of Tsukihime is Arc's dream.
Just a bit longer till Nasu elaborates I guess.

>>45420853
>What is Sigma's appeal?
He's funny

>>45429474
>multiverse level
Lucifer easily covers and surpasses that. Being the second strongest after literally God in something as big as DC Comics makes you ridiculously. Can't say I like it, the Magic Gods from Toaru is or the new Arcueid stuff. I kinda loose interest the second powerlevel bullshit goes above the Planet itself.

>>45422811
He's also a big fan of Monty Python.

>>45429518
Who cares? Lucifer isn't from Nasu. Also, as always what matters is the execution. The whole concept of parallel worlds, the planet's dreams and what-if possibilities between Arc and Shiki is pure kino and I can't wait for Nasu to elaborate on the concept further.

List all the canonically gay/bi servants according to myth/mythology

The list will surprise you

>>45429720
Firstly my wife, Nero Claudius, whom castrated and raped a pretty boy who looked like his deceased wife!

>>45429178
Because Nasu wants fans to be unreasonably horny for her like I am

>>45429862
Something wrong

>>45430255
AI art

>>45430255
what's the problem?

>>45430279
It looks more like a stump with a sock than a human feet

>>45430385
It's a sock you massive retard

>>45430385
apologies most artists don't draw the foot fetish kino you desire, king

Saber’s small toes

>>45430388
>>45430390
>>45430385
This shit is funny. It's a baggy sock lol.

>>45429399
All those three examples have another actual thing in common, which is why they lost. Fate.

>>45429615
Did Nasu ever cross it over with SMT like Saber being in Nitroplus Blasterz?

>>45429399
>Arcueid lost to a high schooler with poor physical health
This wasn't a fight.

>>45431129
Shiki ganking Arc is literally described as her fate. This is the one thing that can save her and probably the world long term.

>>45431259
It was stated the chances of Shiki encountering Arc is equivalent to a miniature universe being born out of nothing.

>>45423088

>>45423088

>>45431581
this but archer

>>45431862
Rin doesn’t want someone with old man pubes retard

>>45431919
Um, this is a world where numerous people with blue hair exist. White is probably not the most off-putting hair colour.

>>45423088

>>45431291
Zelretch helped, didn't he?

Why is Aimaitei such a perverse woman and why did she make so many fate futa on male pics?

>>45431153
reminded me of how i played tsuki and persona 2 around the same time and thought it was funny how shiki/SHIKI's relationship has similar gimmicks to tatsuya suou/tatsuya sudou.

>>45429197
imagine Koyama Medusa...

>>45432780

>>45431291
And so their fateful nature. Arcueid is the impossible result created of a miracle coincidence that saves her who is otherwise bound in unbreakable chains. Metaphorically and then literally.

Anyone got the japanese for this? From Kouhon

"Those that have inherited the blood of ancient purebloods, like the Tohno or Saiki.
Pureblooded species means non-humans (oni-kind), or alternatively those that have strayed from being human and turned into onis."

What philosophy should I study if I want to live like Tohno Shiki?

>>45434887
https://eternalisedofficial.com/2021/08/14/nietzsche-the-ubermensch-overman/#:~:text=The%20overman%20is%20the%20ultimate,and%20relies%20on%20nothing%20else.

>>45435228
He feels guilty over killing Arc and for leaving Akiha alone though. I've only read a little of Nietzsche, but is that consistent with him?

>>45434887
Do you have a natural instinct to attack someone?
if not, ngmi

>>45431919
archer shaves
t. nasu

>>45435644
Sex with hisui

Did Nasu work on Fate zero or was it all Gen who did everything.

>>45435302
Overcome guilt and yourself. Part of it is to strive to reach where you can affirm your life to where you'd redo it all despite knowing the meaningless of everything. Create your own values and meaning.

>>45437513
bullshit

>>45436263
Only women and professional sports swimmers shave/wax their bodies (for maximum swimming speed) lmfao what a fag

>>45437637
It's bullshit but I believe it. Something like that would be totally unexpected. People theorized about some announcements on NY stream or that Aniplex panel, but not fucking TGA.

>>45437808
it's fake
https://dronesoma.cgsociety.org/cn1a/seiba-saber-fate-sla

>>45437840
It's still real to me, dammit.

>>45434887
1)Learn to stab people and jump like a spider
2)"It can't be helped"

>>45438463
1a)Make yourself forget that you know how to stab people.

>>45436263
Why would he shave at all?
Can't heroic spirits alter their materialized body composition on the get go? How else would Archer in Extella have that silly long hair?

>>45436512
>assumes meaningless as inherent property of reality just because (beyond necessary meaningless)
>implies that redoing all again (no questions asked) has to be forced — fatalistic lack of will
>bluntly advocate to create own values without understanding reality at large as if own's path is an end all in itself even within its own purview
And then, ah, "guilt". Nevermind the silly assumption that some select entity is guilty, while cutting bits of yourself may make you enlightened, it is hardly commendable. Would you toss away pain too? True failures cannot be overcome other than with ideal solutions.

>>45434887
Tsukihime. Walk like the goat until you become the goat. Skip the murder part though. Fucking your nurse is a good place to start.

>>45406785
Newest Ufotable project

>>45439054
See, I can't get mad if they make ironic Fate content.

>>45439054
Whom is she punching and why?

>>45438824
Mimicry ain't a real thing, and Shiki is no mimic.

Can Archetype be said to have authority over worlds other than Tsuki? The MBBAN manga implies she does.

Throughout the manga she is referred to as "the will of the World". And she only shows up because Sialim and Olga were creating simulations, making the simulated worlds into real worlds, and then destroying them. This implies Archetype is connected to all possibilities/parallel realities created on Earth even beyond the Fate/Tsuki split.
Near the end of the manga Sialim complains saying every human on Earth can't have every single possibility because the world can't bear the strain of those calculations. To which Archetype replies the world doesn't do calculations, it merely adapts and changes, and it doesn't obey neither Human Order nor human nature (makes sense since it governs them). And Archetype is the will of the world, she even said she can fix the world from her position but she prefers not to since it can have consequences, but that's not elaborated.

But it does seem pretty clear Archetype is operating on a scale that's even beyond the Compiled Events themselves.

>>45440165
Morgan, because she doesn't bore her a son.

>>45440442
what is nasu smoking

>>45440442
Nothing surprising, really.

Dead Apostle sex
https://x.com/pashiwa848/status/1732467909338034618?s=61

>>45440763
>not loli
disgusting

>>45440763
Post Arc'n'Ciel futa on male instead. I think Shiki was impregnated...

>>45440763
Needs more DA Noel. She is a cutie.

Would Shirou get the immortality bonus from Caliburn?

>>45437513
this is obviously fake but it would be nice to see a square type moon thing considering how much inspiration nasu and takeuchi took from final fantasy 8, tactics, and valkyrie profile

>中
It's another 3 parter. I thought it might be.

>>45442246
SEX

>>45442216
Waver looks like he's scared of Shirou in this cover.

>>45442289
Calm down Aoko.

>>45442432
SEEEEEEEEX

>>45442433
!

>>45442216
「決着をつけよう、メルヴィン・ウェインズ」

　死徒ヴァン＝フェムの船宴で起きた殺人事件。
　その解決もままならぬまま、エルメロイⅡ世たちは第二のゲームに挑むことになる。競う相手は盟友であったはずのメルヴィン。魔術師同士のギャンブルによる運の偏りを読み切り、Ⅱ世たちは勝機を見出そうとするがーー。
　一方、前回の船宴に勝利したという衛宮士郎は、謎の錬金術師と死闘を繰り広げる。「シロウ・エミヤ、絶対に、お前を許さない……」強烈に敵視されるその理由とは……!?
　神代よりの謎と、死徒のギャンブルが複雑に絡み合う、『ロード・エルメロイⅡ世の冒険』第七巻！

Some people are speculating the alchemist is an Einzbern.

>>45442538
Another shitty installment incoming.

>>45440763
Whoever commissioned gets the seal of approval.

>>45440442
I think you're thinking too hard about a one off crossover manga where multiple settings were being intermingled. She shouldn't even exist in Fate nor probably gives a fuck about those worlds.

>>45409501
Heroic Spirit job is to answer prayers of hope and be summoned by humanity when they are in danger. Literally Merlin states so in Garden of Avalon. The Grail shit is a distortion of their actual purpose.

>>45412053
By that reason, Guda didn't defeat anyone because his Servants did. Kukulcan was working for Guda.
Anyway, Batman defeated him before that, but I guess it's a He Who Fights Monsters case.

>>45422222
Second Magic is explicitely NOT time travel.

>>45429474
She's featless wonder. Meanwhile Lucifer Morningstar literally creates his own universe and we see him dong that instead of words words jobs to dick. She's also a pretty dumb retard, Lucifer can probably make her kill herself because he's exceptional IQ.

>>45440442
>Can Archetype be said to have authority over worlds other than Tsuki? The MBBAN manga implies she does.
Archetype's defined as some record of the planet without any power whatsoever in Fate. Can't even fucking MOVE from the inner sea of the planet. This is before they met deino Arc.

So absolutely no. She has no power in Fate.

>>45443096
Also LB7 already defines what the Archetype does and is and is very underwhelming. With Nasu defining it's Humanity who runs that shit in Moonlight Lostroom. It's just Arcfags can't help but hope their niche waifu matters in the big franchise.

>>45443559
>Also LB7 already defines what the Archetype does and is and is very underwhelming
nta, but what does they do?

>>45443782
She serves as a "memory/record" of the planet and isn't supposed to move from the inner sea designed zone. Brotosaurus Arc was an example. Loli Vinci does an infodump before Chaldea meets her.
It's very obvious Arc's actual power comes from her link with CM than being "Archetype Earth." It's also foreshadowed in her Princess profile (that she accepted CM's will). Since he got fucked over and offed in Fate, even if there's a Proto Earth Arcface stuck bumming in the inner sea, she's a glorified camerawoman.

>>45443782
The Archetype Earth is the Brain of the Planet which, according to Loli Vinci, acts as a spokesperson and recording device. That's all the function it is.
You need to remember that Earth's got many organs, not just the brain. The big dick fairies (great mothers/fathers) are all organs of the planet. Took several of those to make Excalibur.

>>45443982
cute photography-obsessed waifu

>>45444025
She could be cute, but my point is that the Fate world is ruled by "Humanity/Men's Sense/Will."
There was a good post/compilation by a nip with Arc saying the world (in Tsukihime/Melty Blood) was ruled by the Planet's Sense/Will. While this was before the retcon, I still think it sticks. Then FGO prologue, Olga says is Men's Common Sense/Will.
FGO prologue, the booklet in moonlight lostroom single out Humanity as the one in control of the parallel worlds and prunning and everything. That's very much one of the moral grieving and conflicts in fgo.

It's that this Arcfag literally can't read shit, and doesn't understand what a "crossover" is.

>>45443982
>Proto Earth Arcface
>implying it isn't a Saber face

>>45444088
>quoting fgo filler garbage
Arcueid is the strongest character in Type-Moon as per Nasu. That's all you need to know.

>>45443096
Oh boy, it's you again, gracing this board with your asinine arguments. This is going to be fun.
>one off crossover manga
You mean a crossover manga written by Nasu meant to foreshadow plot points about FGO and still does to this day. The content is very much canon.
Her not existing in Fate doesn't mean she can't interact with those worlds if she wants.

>>45443540
Are a vs battler by any chance? Also we explicitly see her overwriting the world on a universal scale in Ciel's True, so that's wrong.
Even in the OG game Arc summoned the world from 1000 years in the future, which is both a time travel feat and parallel world feat. But it's fitting since she is connected to the realm of possibilities as both MBBAN manga and Remake further elaborates upon. Also, who gives a damn about Lucifer from DC.

>>45443546
>in Fate
Good thing we're not talking about Fate Archetype then? Since MBBAN manga shows Tsuki/Melty Archetype manifesting in the Extra verse.

>>45443559
It's cute how you're replying to yourself.
>Also LB7 already defines what the Archetype does and is and is very underwhelming
Good thing the Archetype/planet's brain in Tsukihime wordlines is explicitly stated to have a different functionality than in Fate worlds. In Fate worlds the Archetype is, just like you said, a Recorder. In Tsukihime worlds it's explicitly stated to be a in charge of the prolongued utilization (administration) of the celestial body:
>Though normally bound to the planet's interior, being a ‘soul’ (the chances of a celestial object being born in space is practically none. Force of Fate and Spacetime Causality which lets this be established is defined as a soul) meant for prolonged utilization (administration) of its celestial object, once it leaks onto the surface, it causes a system critical error.
So yeah.

>>45443982
>It's very obvious Arc's actual power comes from her link with CM than being "Archetype Earth."
She is a combination of both bro. She is a Recorder with the power of an Ultimate One.
This is why she has the ability to materialize the planet's memories via he rMarble Phantasm.

>>45444088
>It's that this Arcfag literally can't read shit, and doesn't understand what a "crossover" is
A crossover with actual canon content. Keep seething.

as neither of those anons
Fate and Tsukihime worlds have very different Arcs, the question is clearly if her abilities extend through the Fate/Tsukihime divide
i.e. Tsukihime Arc's domain, is its boundary all the Tsukihime worlds, or all the TM worlds
I don't know enough about said F/T divide, the crossover manga and its canon/seriousness level, or Arc's abilities to say
how hard is it to contact Nasu with this sort of question?

>>45444515
>A crossover with actual canon content. Keep seething.
A crossover is not actually using the same rules. I don't think loli Olga can do that shit either but can in the crossover.

>>45444543
The manga is very much written by Nasu. And shows content you can't find anywhere else: https://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread.php/9380-Grand-Unified-Theory-CHALDEA?p=3232047&viewfull=1#post3232047
It's much more important than a gag crossover manga.

>>45444642
What do we know about loli Olga? You can't just say you don't believe it so it can't be true.

>>45444441
>You mean a crossover manga written by Nasu
It wasn't written by Nasu. It was SUPERVISED by Nasu.
>content is very much canon
It's self contained crossover. Can it serve to foreshadow? Go wild, but it's not relevant to the uncrossover worlds.

>Good thing we're not talking about Fate Archetype then?
We're very much talking about Fate as a setting. Which, you know, she can't do jackshit. Stop taking a cameo seriously.

>>45444662
The manga was written by Takeru Kirishima, you fucking idiot. Nasu simply supervised it.

>>45444441
What. Not really.
>Good thing the Archetype/planet's brain in Tsukihime wordlines is explicitly stated to have a different functionality than in Fate worlds.
Glad you understand. Archetype won't be able to do anything in Fate. Period. The ruling principle is Humanity.

Ea, gg.

>>45444721
since you are clearly a well versed gacha fag explain ascension 3 anon

>>45444441
>Are a vs battler by any chance?
You're the one who asked that question. I was. I got bored of vs.
>Also we explicitly see her overwriting the world on a universal scale in Ciel's True, so that's wrong.
"Universal scale" = shows a city changing in actual reality.
>Even in the OG game Arc summoned the world from 1000 years in the future, which is both a time travel feat and parallel world feat.
That's still very unimpressive when that's your biggest gun. TM powerlevels are very low in general. Besides she's pretty fucking stupid who falls for the "look up" strategy with Ciel. She'll be solo by Lucifer without needing him to flex. Lucifer literally outsmarted gods and made them kill each other without using any power at all. The guy isn't only a powerhouse that we actually see him weave a whole creation (multiverse on its own), he's a cunning and ruthless one. While Arc can't tie her shoelaces without Shiki.

Talking about in page watching him shape stars, creating species, deciding laws of everything. None of the poetic "tell, not show" stuff Nasu pulls which could be just embellishment. He destroyed an entire afterlife just because he walked in there, and he was too fucking powerful. The place crumbled. He wasn't unleashing any power, it was him just being normal.
>Also, who gives a damn about Lucifer from DC.
You tried to argue earlier when the anon brought him up. It's ridiculous to see anyone in Type Moon, even the whole collection of Types, even standing near this guy. He can just unmake them.

>>45444694
>It wasn't written by Nasu. It was SUPERVISED by Nasu.
It amounts to the same thing really.
>but it's not relevant to the uncrossover worlds
You can't have your cake and eat it too bro. If the information in it is important enough to foreshadow then that means this information is very much relevant to the worlds themselves, at least when Tsuki and Fate are interacting. We both know Nasu is going to write more crossovers in the future.
>Which, you know, she can't do jackshit
Except for the manga both showing and stating otherwise? The point is in Nasu's mind Tsuki Archetype does indeed have power over Fate wordlines when doing crossover stories. Yeah, Tsukihime stories will remain self-contained. But if Nasu is writing a crossover that's very much the scope of the Princess in his mind.

>>45444721
>Archetype won't be able to do anything in Fate
Except for the manga showing us otherwise. The Princess > humanity. Stay mad.

>>45444817
Read her description.

>>45444857
>Except for the manga showing us otherwise.
She still does nothing there.
>The Princess > humanity.
Humanity > Princess. Stay mad she's irrelevant.

>>45444857
>It amounts to the same thing really.
No, it's not. Turas and Stella are supervised by him too, and serve as foreshadowing. They don't suddenly 'replace' canon.
>You can't have your cake and eat it too bro.
Yes, because Nasu, by definition, thinks crossovers don't count. See about Arc in Extra in Blossom Sensei's segment he ACTUALLY wrote. Similar take with Servants in Type Lumina. You're not supposed to take that seriously. Or the Neko Arcs.
>Except for the manga both showing and stating otherwise?
There's nothing in the manga that shows Arc can do that -in Fate-. She doesn't do it even. She may do it in Tsukihime (which we don't know, I'm inclined to believe it). You're extrapolating.

>>45444848
>"Universal scale" = shows a city changing in actual reality.
>space itself is being overwritten
>we see nebulas, stars, and galaxies further away, all of which overwriting space as the narrator described
I guess a universe is a city in your mind lol.
>Lucifer literally outsmarted gods
I don't give a crap. I'm not discussing Lucifer.
>You tried to argue earlier
No I didn't. I merely explained the scope of Arc's abilities as shown and stated in the game itself. Characters outside TM aren't relevant to the discussion, it's very much off-topic.

>>45444882
>She still does nothing there.
She chooses not to do anything. The point is she is the will of the world there.
>Humanity > Princess
Haha, no.

>>45444920
>She chooses not to do anything.
Anon, she doesn't do anything. She telling she can do (this thing) may be informing what she can do in her setting not that she can do there. You're overlapping the two things.
>The point is she is the will of the world there.
The will of the world is Humanity. This is factual canon. Stop being in denial. She's a nobody in Fate.
>Haha, no.
That very manga you quote tells humanity can destroy the universe.

>>45444920
Bro, I beg you to read the description of fucking EA unleashed. It's the same language and vague poetic description.
Is this your first Nasuism?

>>45444907
>Turas and Stella are supervised by him too
Apples to oranges. These are manga adaptations, not new content. MBBAN can't replace canon because it's not adaptating anything, it's explicitly new content.
>Yes, because Nasu, by definition, thinks crossovers don't count
Epic of Remnant CCC event anyone? Crossovers don't have to be canon to the main storyline for the content in there to be legit. It's not like Tsuki and Fate can ever interact without it being a crossover event after all.
>There's nothing in the manga that shows Arc can do that -in Fate-
She quite literally affected the Atlas institute from a different universe.

>>45444946
>That very manga you quote tells humanity can destroy the universe.
Isn't that the very first page too? Or the second.

>>45444907
Shiki defeating Ushi, and claiming her in his harem, is completely canonical.

>>45444963
>MBBAN can't replace canon because it's not adaptating anything, it's explicitly new content.
Anon, it can't replace canon lore written by Nasu based on you taking things out of context either. Neko Arcs aren't running around Zelretch place.
>Epic of Remnant CCC event anyone?
That was a collab. Nasu defines crossovers as "not serious" (he made a very meta study of that in one event). He uses crossover specifically for the presence of Arc in Fate, or Fate/Ryogi in Tsukihime. Nurse Sakura very much states you weren't supposed to take it seriously (Arc being there at all) in a cd drama written by Nasu (actually written).
>She quite literally affected the Atlas institute from a different universe.
She just literally plucked Sion back, like Olga plucked Sion before. In no way she affected the world or anything bruh. You understand the difference, right?

>>45444946
>She telling she can do (this thing) may be informing what she can do in her setting not that she can do there.
No. We're outright told she can change the world if she wants to she just chose not to. This is explicitly in the context of the Tsuki/Extra crossover.
>The will of the world is Humanity
Not within the context of the crossover.
>That very manga you quote tells humanity can destroy the universe
Sure, overtime they can. This has been a thing in Nasu's works since forever.

>>45444953
>It's the same language and vague poetic description
There is no poetic description here when the visuals show exactly what's being described. Especially when we're told these are the planet's Records overwriting reality. So it's all very much a concept present in the TsukiR cosmology.

Why didn't Roa just ask Daybit what the universe looks like?

>>45445023
>No. We're outright told she can change the world if she wants to she just chose not to
That's literally her assumption.
>crossover.
important keyword too.
>Not within the context of the crossover.
Cross.Over. Doesn't matter because nobody established there will matter.
>Sure, overtime they can.
Not even over the time. Marisbilly has been declared a universal threat by the terminal of the Dark Star. Overtime is 2017.

>>45444996
>it can't replace canon lore written by Nasu
And it doesn't have to. Nobody is claiming it's replacing lore. The stuff in the manga is not contradicting anything.
>That was a collab. Nasu defines crossovers as "not serious"
The point is those are Archetype's capabilities in his mind within the context of a crossover. Of course she is not going to crossover in a Tsukihime-only storyline.
>In no way she affected the world or anything
The point is that she could have if she decided to do so. She merely chose not to.

>>45445047
>That's literally her assumption.
And I see no reason to doubt her. After all, who else knows more about TM cosmology than she does. She is literally the will/spokesman of the world itself.
>Doesn't matter because nobody established there will matter
Oh it will matter once Nasu writes another Tsuki crossover.
>Marisbilly has been declared a universal threat
With a silly amoutn of time and prep time. Starting from him winning the Holy Grail and wishing for money lol.

You lost me

>>45445075
You know crossovers are not actually factual things, correct? The 'setting and rules' are just mixmax. Who says that Alaya can't kick that bitch's ass if she tries something? Can you? No because she effectively DIDN'T DO ANYTHING. You're taking her word as gospel.

>>45445100
>She is literally the will/spokesman of the world itself.
She isn't. Planet =/= world.
>another
he didn't write this one.
>Starting from him winning the Holy Grail War
In 2004, and he was ready to rumble earlier than 2017. In a decade he went from "mildly sus affably shady mage" to "the enemy of the universe."
The point is that you're trying to make it sound that this claim was "distant" when it literally is ongoing to what's fucking happening as it was published.
Probably why that has an emphasis in a colored page in the beginning, and Archetype smelling her farts is forgettable.

>>45445111
>crossovers are not actually factual things
Factual is relative. They are obviously important tothe story they are trying to tell?
>Who says that Alaya can't kick that bitch's ass if she tries something?
lmao. You mean just like Alaya always does when it solves problems right? It can't do shit.
>You're taking her word as gospel.
She is the will if the world, the world that explicitly govers Human Order.

>>45445144
>>45445144
>She isn't. Planet =/= world.
Nope, MBBAN explicitly states she is the willof the world, not just the planet. Later we're told this world is above Human Order and human nature.
>The point is that you're trying to make it sound that this claim was "distant" when it literally is ongoing
I don't particularly care. He would have been fucked if Chaldea didn't stop Goetia. His whole plan required several pieces falling into place, as well as a ton of preparation time. I think the quote at the beginning is likely describing Aoko and human consumption in general more than any one specific person.

>>45445153
>You mean just like Alaya always does when it solves problems right?
Alaya's literally the one in charge of the main timeline. Abomination born after moon invasion was successful is as much departure as Morgan's experiment with fairy britain.
>She is the will if the world,
She's only literally the planet's brain. try again. she has nothing to do with the human order.
>the world that explicitly govers Human Order.
The WORLD is the Human order you fucking retard.

>>45445204
>Nope, MBBAN explicitly states she is the willof the world, not just the planet. Later we're told this world is above Human Order and human nature.
Not really.
>He would have been fucked if Chaldea didn't stop Goetia.
He would have dispatched Kirsch to stop that.
>I think the quote at the beginning is likely describing Aoko and human consumption in general more than any one specific person.
Aoko is literally irrelevant to a manga that exists to foreshadow "Animusphere bad" bro.

https://youtu.be/VsYZy1g8jGs?si=gqnNX_sigWRk_6oJ
Sovl

>>45445223
>Alaya's literally the one in charge of the main timeline.
And it can't do shiton it's own, which is why it always sends Servants to do it's bidding.
>She's only literally the planet's brain
You're contradicting what's stated in the manga, so no.
>The WORLD is the Human order you fucking retard
The manga explicitly states the world is at the mercy of spiritrons and it obeys neither Human Order nor human nature.
So again, wrong. Keep seething you little shit.

>>45445232
>Not really.
Its very explicitly stated.
>Kirsch
Kirsch was in a coma then.
>Aoko is literally irrelevant to a manga that exists to foreshadow "Animusphere bad"
The only Animusphere in the manga is Olga. But there is no universal stuff at the current point for, FGO, only foreshadowing.

>>45445247
I laugh when I watch it

>>45444441
>Her not existing in Fate doesn't mean she can't interact with those worlds if she wants.
I agree she's the strongest and special but you're trying to make her some god who affects all of reality including a separate multiverse all based on a crazy crossover scenario that mixed multiple worlds and according to >>45444662
probably takes place in imaginary number space and possibly resulting because of a gag character's world and dimensional powers. Think what you want, since you care so much but don't get so combative when not everyone is convinced. This reminds me of late 2000's Ryougi is omnipotent fans or the "Goetia affected all of TM" people. I'd want Arc doing something while in one universe while simultaneous and clearly affecting the other universes.
>It's cute how you're replying to yourself.
Don't be schizo.
>>45444817
She's not based on Fate. Actually she isn't even fulfilling her role. Probably because they're just a guest servant. Also LB7 is not Tsuki or Fate. And an Archetypes role as recorder doesn't mean that's all they can be.
>The point is in Nasu's mind Tsuki Archetype does indeed have power over Fate wordlines when doing crossover stories.
Sure, that could be? But that is only the case in crossover settings where there is no distinction between universes and the underlying worlds. Normally there is a barrier that separates them as seen in MB so in Nasu's mind they normally have no relation and should only interact under special events.

>>45444983
True. She's trying her hardest in MBPP to see his skills.

>>45445425
>to make her some god who affects all of reality including a separate multiverse all based on a crazy crossover scenario
The point is the manga describes her as the will of the World, which she states isn't bound by Human Order and human nature. The events and canonicity (as in specific placement within a timeline) of the manga aren't important, but what they tell us about the characters and the world around them very much is.
>Don't be schizo
Same dude from /vg/. Now the discussion is being a bit more reasonable which I appreciate.
>But that is only the case in crossover setting
And I agree with this.
>Normally there is a barrier that separates them
But who do you think even made that barrier? If not the will of the world?

"World" can mean a lot of things depending on context.
>>45445499
The most legit crossover actually since they established the world separation being reaffirmed, the servants leaving, Ushi remaining. So tangible continuity for that specific MB universe.

>>45445546
>But who do you think even made that barrier?
Nasu. I just figure its probably just a meta narrative thing. Like two different seeds being planted to make different trees and he's
a gardener working to not let the roots and branches touch too much since he thinks they'll kill each other. Which is why we get Shiki laying stake to the protagonist role and sending the servants back before things go to shit and he was memeing in that twitter message about which will survive between Tsuki and Fate.
>And I agree with this.
I do think she'll be placed above human order and everything in crossover scenarios since humanity is in the end just a small part of the equation and she's the big fish. In Fate Strange Fake for example she probably supercedes Alaya and everything since it's also a world where Gaia awakes and she'd likely still have her authority. In short, it probably depends on the "setting" that serves as the basis since she might just get nerfed like in FGO.

>>45442216
I'm really skeptical of where this series is going but maybe he'll surprise me. I wish this came out on a better day than New Year's Eve but oh well.

>>45445823
I just wish he took more time to work on the novels.

>>45445896
1-2 books a year is pretty normal for LN authors.

Every time I read something about FGO, I just want to cut Nasu in seventeen pieces.

>>45445917
FGO is dumb. 2023 has been so bad. What are they even doing?

>>45446044
I'm not sure what's the point of the OC filler arc. Just finish Part 2 and be done with it.

>>45446093
>In the PV, you can see part of a fourth Class Card on the screen for a fraction of a second, so would it be correct to believe that there will be 4 OCs in total?

>Nasu: As everyone already predicted, it's not a matter of if, it's a matter of when. Look forward to the surprising timing of it. In our long years working with FGO, we've been introducing Classes outside the standard Holy Grail War roster with no explanation. Before the game is over, we need to clarify each Class's significance and the reason why they're allowed. It's partly our responsibility for creating each Class.

>And OC is there to portray that?

>Nasu: Yes. I initially wanted to explain all Classes at once, but that idea was too incohesive. The direction we decided on from there was to split it into one story per Class and start expanding the OC plot starting in 2023. If you play PAPERMOON, aside from getting a good FGO chapter, you'll also be able to understand what our farewells to each Class will be like.

>Are you going to make stories for all Extra Classes? Mooncancer included?

>Nasu: No, Mooncancers are like the EX Rank or the fun bonus pages at the end of a manga volume, and more accurately, they have extraterritorial rights by default (laughs). Pretenders don't cause distortions because they come disguised as existing Classes. And we can't make a whole story for Shielder because there's only one of them, so our plan for this one is to do the thing everyone has been waiting for. Look forward to it.

>>45446459

>>45444983
I don’t understand the infatuation with hairless armpits

Decided to start the original after playing the remake, the differences are small so far but refreshing

>>45442447
SEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEX!

>>45443086
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>>45449621
Perfect and canon.

>>45450858
Why is there air coming out of there? Is that how women fart?

be the Christian the Japanese think you are

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2052410/WITCH_ON_THE_HOLY_NIGHT/
>TYPE-MOON, known for the widely popular mobile game "Fate Grand Order"
Nasusisters, I'm so excited!! Don't forget to do your dailies while you wait for the new Nasu masterpiece!

>>45452739
How long til they match Aoko with the Gacha self insert?

>>45452788
Not too long, hopefully.
Soichirou needs to learn his place.

>>45452788
Her inclusion will be just basic friendship that illiterates will misread and pay for while never seeing progress until the ending where they have to say goodbye to all their servants.

>>45452739
>and the epic visual novel "Tsukihime"
That's epic. I guess F/sn and KnK doesn't exist anymore

>>45452788
Shes the one character I can see never being added and only teased. Since outside of MB which is gag shit she's only been in Mahoyo and 5mins of Tsuki.

>>45453772
Most FGOfags don't read FSN and KnK, and Tsukihime here is obviously referring to the remake which they would know cuz Arc is in it.

I want a Christmas miracle with Red Garden announcement in it

>>45454149
me too

>>45452839
And what is his place?