/jp/ - Otaku Culture

I want to rest on Shion's warm thighs.

>>45215609
Imagine the softness.

>>45215609
She told me you seem nice so she'll consider it!!

>>45216054
O-Oh wow! Thank you Shion! It's been so cold lately so I look forward to feeling comfy!

>>45216054
Godly work, Shionbro.
Wish I could make my own Shion fumo..

FURUDE RIKA THREAD WHEN?
rikafriend if any of you even exist, create one for me! and for Rika her husband !

What's our consensus on Higanbana?

>>45217396
A cute

Rose Guns Days is making me like american and chinese people, a miracle

>>45217789
>he doesn't know
If you don't go out of RGD as a pure-blooded, racist japanese patriot, you didn't get it.

https://youtu.be/p03fBpoNdno?si=Q118N0NwrEt_1Aey

Remember what they took from you

which one of fuckers said /a/ was shittier than /jp/? it always was the complete opposite, newcancer.
kill yourself already rat/fbnigger

but nowadays /a/ is shit so both are shit.

>even rikafag thinks 'the 4chan when i started browsing is better than the 4chan that i'm stuck in today'

>>45216054
Very cute Shion

Girls I want to fuck, ranked
1. Rena
2. Reina
3. Hojo Satoko
4. Kimiyoshi Satoko

Girls I want to fuck, ranked
1. Keiichi Maebara
2. Miyao Mitake
3. Yasu
4. Sakutaro

>>45215559

lost my Satoko folder bros. but I'm looking for one edit in particular if anyone can help out. its one of her when she's going evil in the realm and it had text on it that says "What zero pussy does to a pussy" . i offer this satoko in exchange

WTF NEW MANGA CHAPTER GOING CRAZY this explains the Kimiyoshi thing

>>45219688
sextoko

is toaru not also otaku culture? there used to be threads for it but not in a long time. /07/th expansion and raildex would be my most frequented threads. are those threads on /a/ or is raildex just not appreciated anymore. I see this shit is so,,

>>45221501
you can try making your own threads, but this general is kept alive purely because of thread personalities refusing to let it rest, there has been no new 07th expansion content in like 2 years (spinoff manga is not content)

>>45219688
Holy kino, Satoko friends gonna love that one.

>>45221501
For me Toaru is about endlessly fanboying over how cool Accelerator and the 3rd world war arc are, levels 6 kino powerlevel discussion, aaaand nothing else.
In fact I advise skipping most non-Accelerator episodes of the anime, the plot and characters are too lame half the time.

crafty little nuisance, this annoying rat.

>>45219660
here's what i could find in the shit folder

>>45219588
omega fucking shittaste, my shitokocuck

I guess Rikafriends did pack their things and went out

>>45219588
>Kimiyoshi Satoko
How anyone can like Reiwa is beyond me, what was Ryukishi thinking when he made this NTR trash?

>>45221568
only headcanon fuckers like you
Rika is better
>ntr
you're way ahead of your shitty thoughts, nigger

>>45221584
I love ooishiNTRanon

Hello? can you stupid idiots stop being idiots. talk about Rika

Grown ass men who haven't stopped thinking about the visual novel they read when they were 15 btw

>>45221587
Rika
is better

>>45221592
rika doesn't belong to ooishi, ooishi prefers big rena boobies and twin butts. rika or satako are more for Tomitake/irie

>>45221591
B-B-B-But

>>45221601
kill yourself shitokonigger you cant even type properly
and kill yourself for being an ooishi homonigger

>>45209380
>>45209480
Does anyone really still believe his lame excuses as to why he hasn't invested a significant amount of his own money in a clearly loss-making continuation of a previous loss-making project? I know, a man who has been making things up as he goes along for the last 20 years wouldn't dare lie while making things up as he goes along, in this case finding convenient excuses that his remaining weak-minded audience would eat up without a single critical thought. The only chance for the few hundred people who can't wait for Phase 2 is to go to the Golden Land, because you won't get it anywhere else.

>>45221619
Don't forget to livestream your suicide at phase 2 announcement, retard-kun.

>>45221568
Ryukishi doesn't care anymore, if he knew he would make a million dollars making an anime series about Rena rimming homeless guys while Keiichi is forced to watch he would. Same reason why Rena is a single mom and why Mion is still waiting to become th next head of the sonozaki family, he will put them in situations even if it doesn't make sense for their character just to have a somewhat interesting plot

keimi

renakei

>>45221568
I'm happy shipperfags lost, have fun simping over these bitches now that they're all canonically used goods by some random guys

>Reiwa
>canonical
About as canonical as F/GO EMIYA is to F/SN.
Imagine actually being this delusional. The manga isn't even written by R07.

>>45221553
Sorry friend I can't really think of anything clever to say.

>>45222133
>an anime series about Rena rimming homeless guys while Keiichi is forced to watch
WHERE??

i can't believe phase 1 came out four years ago and phase 2 is still nowhere to be seen

>>45221619
>muh war
Lmao lame excuses, its because ciconia doesnt give him enough money

>>45221553
I am a Shionbro but I like Rika too!!

>>45221623
Here we have one avowed believer with the expected reaction typical of people suffering in a cult of personality. But don't hang your head, there is still hope for you to be rescued from the endless torment of waiting for the promised sequel, which of course will never come. You may have found a pleasure in deluding yourself, but the course of history has already taken a different path, and only a miracle in the form of Ryukishi, who after reading my comment will find his lost resolve and try with all his might to prove me wrong, can change that. Don't get me wrong, anything new will pull this place out of the clutches of agony, but we shouldn't question the obvious truth that says the actual state of Ciconia hasn't changed one bit in the last 4 years. I was just trying to warn you, save you unnecessary pain, and open your eyes, butthurt-kun.

>>45224465
Not that I disagree, just a little question. How long did it take for Higurashi to stop losing money and start making decent money?

>>45224465
i don't rly understand when people say this because why would he make an excuse to not write it. Why make an excuse, wouldn't he just say he doesn't want to write it, It's not like he's afraid of his fans. Ciconia phase 2 will probably come eventually, I'm just not expecting it anytime soon

>>45224788
Higurashi's popularity grew with Wata and then exploded with Tatarigoroshi. The comiket public dislikes Tsumihoroboshi, but by then the anime and manga were coming out so they were basically irrelevant and Higurashi's popularity overall exploded.

That said, R07 was a complete unknown at that point If you look at Umineko, episode 1 was the most popular one. So, Ciconia phase 1 doing badly might have convinced him further phases won't sell any better.

>>45222133
It's not like Mion still being just the "future successor" has any point in the story, since Akane is sick so she has to act as the acting head anyway. It's really just there because R07 doesn't want to deal/think about Mion leading a yakuza group.

Overall, same goes with everyone pairing off with randoms. It's only there because he didn't want to push away people by confirming pairings, even though that just makes this future overall unappealing to everyone rather than just to certain groups. It just doesn't become a selling point when he takes this route but he's too dumb to realize that, seeing it as something that wouldn't annoy anyone.

Auau Auauau!

>>45225093
Uu! Uu Uu!

>>45224845
Popularity is one thing, but that doesn't really answer my original question. Rather, I wanted to point out that if I remember correctly, Onikakushi-hen was distributed practically for free, so profitability didn't play a big enough factor to make him say, this project has no future and I have no chance of making money on a sequel. Sure, he was trying to raise his profile, so he probably lost money on it for the first few years, but that didn't deter him. The same can be said of his other non-WTC projects, which also didn't achieve much popularity and yet he managed to finish them (or am I wrong?).

>>45225349
>Popularity is one thing, but that doesn't really answer my original question. Rather, I wanted to point out that if I remember correctly, Onikakushi-hen was distributed practically for free

100 yen. So, yeah, very cheap.

Note that he still worked as a public servant by that point though. He only left his job after Higurashi exploded in popularity.

>The same can be said of his other non-WTC projects, which also didn't achieve much popularity and yet he managed to finish them (or am I wrong?).

All of them came out within months of each other though. None of them had the huge break that Ciconia has seen. In fact, it's all really ironic since when Phase 01 originally came out R07 said there was too much time between Higurashi's and Umineko's chapters and Ciconia to follow modern day would finish faster than either of those. Then we ended up in the current situation.

>>45224836
This is particularly sad. Like, does anyone really miss the reason why people are dishonest, why people make excuses, why people lie, or why people don't want to lose their livelihood by pissing off a critical mass of their own customers?

>>45224952
>It's not like Mion still being just the "future successor" has any point in the story
I see this as a recurring problem because the same can be said of Gousotsu. All but partially Rika and especially Satoko have no reason to be part of the story and are basically victims of their own popularity. It's like everyone is trying to write popular characters as bland and dull as possible and kill their popularity.

>>45225772
No, I don't, I just don't buy him being worried about fans getting mad either or "losing his livelihood", like that's gonna happen, to the point of going through the trouble of making up some dumbshit excuse no one will buy anyway and going as fas as to even say he's rewriting phase 2. I feel he'd just say he doesn't want to write it if he really doesn't want to, sure fans would be upset but It's not like people are gonna fucking kill him. He's said worse shit about his fans before, like the whole thing with Umineko where he called fans that didn't get it ''goats''. Best thing I can think of is that he does want to actually write it but doesn't feel motivated and feels bad about taking so long or something, money is a factor too probably but I believe there's more to it than just that.

>>45224566
I dont trust you

Rika OP
I crave for Rika OP

>>45226083
Let's give the other characters some spotlight first ok?

>>45226083
read another VN

>>45225940
>going through the trouble of making up some dumbshit excuse no one will buy anyway
I think you underestimate how many people actually believe any kind of bullshit consistent with their own ideology.
>It's not like people are gonna fucking kill him
Seeing what types of people like Ciconie, I wouldn't completely rule it out.
>He's said worse shit about his fans before
Yes, he did, and we all know the unfortunate consequences of that, which are no doubt related to Ciconia's popularity.
>he does want to actually write it but doesn't feel motivated and feels bad about taking so long or something
Perhaps at first his excuses were sincere, but as time goes on, I think people's motivation to return to old unfinished work tends to diminish, so he continues to find reasons not to continue. You know that, right? A small lie leads to a bigger one, which leads to an even bigger one, and so on. He's simply too wrapped up in his own excuses, and besides, there's always another fresh project to cash in on and give his attention to. Also, if he were to openly admit that Ciconia is dead, it could be taken as a major failure, which he may not want to admit, and therefore he will be lying not only to everyone else but also to himself.

>>45226152
>million rena and shion OPs
>herrdurr gib other chayractors som spotlight exdee
>>45226195
Go read an ass

>>45226341
anon we've had a million Rika OPs it can't always be a RIka OP

Rika should kiss me in secret.

>>45219075
This should be the new OP cuz it perfectly represents what Wtc is all about.
Card games.

>>45222563
>The manga isn't even written by R07.
Except it is, he wrote the entire script and now it's just Natsumi kei adapting it. This is not like meguri where Tomato is allowed to write whatever he wants, Ryukishi has direct involvement in Reiwa

>>45227734
I mean, the dumb pairing choices are all on R07 apparently, and he also designed the children, but we don't know much about his involvement beyond that. His bio for Tamaki is rather off compared to the full story, the school staff is now known to be creations of Natsumi Kei and she just asked R07 who he'd prefer, there were minor divergences between Hoshi and the other arcs which point to the manga artists handling the actual final script at least.

In addition to that, Natsumi Kei has referenced herself (and been referenced in news articles) as the manga's author (作者).

Satoko marrying some random dude and getting pregnant has Natsumi Kei written all over it.

She's always had a strange obsession with Satoko being overly sexual, or getting pregnant (she literally tweeted this).

>>45229105

I wonder what goes through her head lol

>shitoko this shitoko that
kill yourself

>>45229141

I will not, though you sound kinda like a lowlife, so maybe hang yourself or something. I'm quite positive nobody would miss you.

>>45229105
If this is a representative sample of the thought processes of an individual working on a manga, it's no wonder Reiwa is so bad.

>>45224084
Ciconia literally isn't popular enough to continue

>>45229105
wtf

>>45229777
imagine making such a dreary piece as ciconia and expecting people to like it. i know old japanese men are supposed to be on another level of delusion but damn

>>45229586
you're annoying no one in a literal sense cares about your houjou shit drama

that's what you get shitoko wankers

>>45229792
I really think he just messed up the main trio's dynamic. VN's going on in random tangents about science or world views is rather common.

What killed Ciconia's popularity was pulling the gender ambiguity stupidity with the freaking protagonist, with his "best friend" often flirting in an uncomfortable way and then a girl on the sides who just felt like a third wheel.

It's baffling too since even stuff like Loopers although having problems of its own seemed to handle character interaction well enough. Well, I guess there was Gerokasu right around Ciconia's time which was also a mess.

>>45219660
This the one?

>>45227734
I would argue the opposite. Because of the overall structure and creative stupidity of Gousotsu, Tomato is far more limited in what he can actually do. Any major changes from the original flimsy script will basically cause the whole already leaky story to completely fall apart, which is why his interventions are often small, one might even say only cosmetic, but very targeted in response to the anime's most justified critics.

>>45229105
What is she trying to say here? That Satoko would fuck a male teacher?

>>45221568
>>45222519
>>45228040
>>45229105
Being a Satoko fan is pure suffering does Ryukishi have a hate boner for her or something why the fuck does he have to continue to make her and her fans suffer with God awful sequels. I want to move on so bad from this franchise but I just fucking can't I love her so much please someone give me some hope that we may get the original Satoko back that loves her friends and wouldn't marry some random fucking man

>>45230054
>If there had been a reliable male teacher who took care of students with problems, using that to get close, I think it could have followed a progression of lewdness -> pregnancy -> expulsion from school -> single mother Satoko... I wonder if she should be happy St.Lucia is an all-girls school... With female students there can be some yuri, but no pregancies.

She made a bunch of posts like that though. Not just that one. There was one where she said pregnant Satoko could meet Rika who'd notice her breasts growing and think about getting pregnant so her breasts could grow too.

Another time she talked about how if Satoko is the type who'd want sex with her partner all the time.

A bunch of stuff with the idea of Satoko pregnant or having sex.

>>45230113
Kill me

>>45229105
I think Gousotsu wasn't bad, It's just Umineko Higurashi edition, but Reiwa looks weird as hell damn. Sorry Satoko fans

>>45230113

Checking one of those quotes, it was even worse than I remembered.

https://twitter.com/sirius1810405/status/1425995972849528834

>If you replace "Rika!" with "My Lover!" then she (Satoko) becomes what is commonly referred to as a too heavy, too restrictive type, and if you replace "Rika!" with "Anyone I can have sex with!", she'd become a sex addict who can't stop cheating....

>This is why life for "adult children" is so hard...

Like it's just her openly throwing some really bizarre sounding "what if" scenario, but it's still really weird she imagines this stuff and types it out. Also, note all these bizarre comments were before Reiwa's reveal. It's her random musing after watching late Gou or Sotsu episodes.

>>45230265
it's not bizarre at all, many such comments were seen on 4chan

>>45230113
jesus christ lmao

>>45230254
GouSotsu was just as bad with Saroko turning into someone who only cares about Rika and has no trouble murdering the people she saw as family especially Keiichi who she saw as her new Nii-Nii and had a bit of a crush on with him being the primary target of her traps so he would give him attention. But now she's a gay looper who only sees them as pieces to use to get closer to Rika for some reason.

And in Reiwa she's a fucking whore I wish I never got onto this series if this was how it was going to end up for Satoko I'm in hell I wish i was fucking dead

>>45230265
>>45230113
>>45229105
Reading this hurts way too much fuck why did it turn out like this why did Ryukishi allow this to happen???

reminder that Ciconia Phase 2 could be announced any day now

>>45229886
Gay people are based and sell, Umineko has the same gender ambiguity

>>45230418
About Gousotsu, yes I know. People have said this about Gousotsu a million times and It's completely fair, I just see it different personally. I don't mind the SatoRika stuff (I don't really give a shit about shipping, Nor do I care too much for Rika or Satoko in general, I'm a Shion fan). I can buy their relationship but I can imagine anyone who ships Satoko or Rika with anyone else would fucking hate it lol. I'm just gonna quickly type how I feel about Gousots, I'm bored out of my mind anyway. gousotsu had shit execution but I can appreciate what it tried to do for Satoko and Rikas relationship and the intended way to view it i think is in the same way you'd view Umineko, with love.

When Rika breaks out of her loop, she's way too absorbed in her new life to realise Satoko is hurting, and this is also especially because she thinks she understands Satoko better than Satoko does herself, which is just no true. She realizes Satoko is struggling obviously with how she helps her study etc but she doesnt get that thats not what its about for Satoko. Satoko on the flipside treats Rika the exact same and makes little effort to understand her either but she thinks of it as Rika deceiving and abandoning her in favor of her new life. To her, Rika lied to her and she's a different person from who she thought she was, even thoug Rika didnt have malicious intent but this is the only way satoko can view it as and it obviously comes as an immense shock to her. Doesn't help that Satoko also already has abandonment Issues.

In the og, the main evil was constant misunderstandings between everyone and only when everyone came together was Rika able to defeat the tragedy. Now in gousotsu the main evil is deception because Satoko goes on to use deception as her weapon. so in gousotsu, the way to defeat this evil is through honesty, which is how Rika eventually realizes that Satoko isn't out to destroy her, just that she is hurting. so after having her guts torn out by Satoko and realizing this, she prepares a genuine gift for her birthday, the repurposed trap with Rika's love for Satoko. Rika could've done some epic shit to see through Satoko or whatever but that would've just been feeding into Satokos game of deception. Rika subverts it into empathy and honesty and it's the start of Satokos downfall.

Then eventually comes the race between fragments etc etc, where neither of them can reach the sword (i forgot its name) because neither of them truly want to erase the other. Both of them in reality are just fucking frustrated and what theyre doing is more akin to a heated argument rather than some epic battle between the two. Satoko herself is already a very emotional person and comes to realise her view was misguided and she's just been venting out all her frustrations onto Rika (the witch satoko being a personification of her darkest feelings towards rika and her desire to punish her) at this point and this is where she loses and Rika manages to take hold of the sword and she expects Rika to punish her but she doesn't because Rika upon seeing this cools down as well and empathizes with Satoko. She throws the sword into the river where their sins are cleansed by their forgiveness for one another and this is how Hanyuu also achieves her victory against Eua. I think It's fairly satisfying to see them come to a mutual understanding in the end through their love for each other.

Satoko imagined fragments where she made a game with defined rules to send a message to Rika who she believed lied to her. Sound familiar no? This is why I believe you should read Umineko first before watching Gousotsu. When Satoko splits with witch Satoko, the other innocent Satoko who says ''she went wrong somewhere'' isn't the Satoko from the og. You can interpret that It's the Satoko from the time where she tried so hard to convince Rika to not go to st lucia and how she waited for years only to end up betrayed again. It ends with Rika and Satoko in the lake after having thoroughly beat each other up before eventually coming to an understanding through brutal honesty. Satoko suppressed the dark thoughts she had towards Rika and realized they were wrong , which she realizes during their fight as they both listen to each others frustrations. They fought it out and came to an understanding. As for witch Satoko, to me, she split off and became it's own entity and will go on to chase Bernkastel through the sea of fragments.


^^ FYI MY OPINION/INTERPRETATION

There's more I can say but you get the point if you've read all this. I like Gousotsu but I 100% understand why most people don't, there's a lot wrong with it that I didn't talk about but I can appreciate what it tried to do, even though the violence could've been toned down so much and It's so hyperfocused on Rika and Satoko, even if the other club members play a part. It heavily suffers from being an anime imo, I wish it was a vn.

>>45230593
>Gay people are based and sell, Umineko has the same gender ambiguity
With the real world failed mastermind, a character you don't even see directly. It's dumb to do that with your protagonist/pov character.

>>45230594
>When Rika breaks out of her loop, she's way too absorbed in her new life to realise Satoko is hurting, and this is also especially because she thinks she understands Satoko better than Satoko does herself, which is just no true. She realizes Satoko is struggling obviously with how she helps her study etc but she doesnt get that thats not what its about for Satoko.

The issue with this entire set up is that Satoko is away from Rika for more than a year in St.Lucia. She outright disappears for days and ends up in a prison. The whole explanation of Rika not noticing Satoko's suffering just doesn't make sense considering how long that entire scenario goes on for. And if you look at it from the point of view of Rika moving on from Satoko already, it doesn't work at all with the final battle, where she's still trying to drag Satoko with her.

>It ends with Rika and Satoko in the lake after having thoroughly beat each other up before eventually coming to an understanding through brutal honesty.

It doesn't end there though. Probably because they don't want Satoko as a drop out, the final scene happens back in March 87. Now Satoko never even went to St.Lucia and Rika is just going there for the first time. So, if you want to write off all the tragedy loops (which took up most of Gou/Sotsu's screentime) as dreams, you'd also need to write off even Satoko's own backstory as a dream too, since of the St.Lucia stuff ever happened in the final world.

Not to mention you had the first 3 Damashi arcs from Keiichi's point of view, even showing events from weeks/months after Satoko and Rika had died, and your conclusion now requires that point of view to never have existed since the story wasn't equipped to deal with the tragedies that followed St.Lucia (which were much bigger than the actual St.Lucia "tragedy).

This is the entire problem with Gou/Sotsu. It wants things to count when it's convenient for its message, but when it isn't they don't. The final world has nice Teppei who is only around due to Satoko's loops, also Satoko waking up when he hadn' trecovered yet in the original world. Satoko's loops are basically just a tool for her maturity, rather than something that broke her mind, but Rika is still treated as having lived in Hinamizawa for a long time and that justifying her desire for something different.

>>45230664
>also Satoko waking up when he hadn' trecovered yet in the original world.
also Satoshi waking up when he hadn't recovered yet in the original world (by that point, March 87)

>>45230664
I don't remember many details about Gousotsu (I've only fully watched it once a long while ago) so I can't really form a proper countergument but fair complaints. I do agree that Gousotsu is far from perfect and it has plenty of problems but I believe there is plenty to like about it as well. I'd debate you on it if I cared about Gousotsu more but right now I can't be bothered to go back to rewatch it, and I can't make a proper counterargument when I don't remember details but I don't see what happened in Gousotsu as a dream.

A small bit on why I remember liking Gousotsus ending regardless of its supposed plotholes you mentioned. To me, I can see it as Satoko finding the courage to move on as she now has Rika's support by her side but I can also see it as Satoko's suicide. "Very well Satoko houjo. I will return myself to you."

The ending feels to me like Satoko denying she can ever be her again, the her she rejected and which the witch Satoko called "The leavings of an old fragment"; A rejection of the ideal self which that Satoko represented and which she could never live up to. It's the opppsite of Saikoroshi Rika.

It's allowing the other Satoko to live on in the world she wished to embrace and accepting the possibility that things could've been better but It's one Satoko Isn't truly capable of accepting because It's not hers. Eua showing up in front of Satoko when she was suicidal is very much like Ange and Bern, with how Ange goes on a Metaphorical and real journey while standing on a building for 30 seconds or so. Rika went to the shrine to commit suicide. So did Satoko.

To me it's like how your life flashes before your eyes, where you desperately try to figure an alternative way out or try to find reasons to reconsider when you've exhausted all of your immediate options. The show doesn't sugarcoat this and acknowledges that the idealism in the original vn doesn't work here. Gousotsus ending is a deconstruction of the originals happy ending that leads into a circular narrative of trauma and regression.

It's about how Higurashi will forever fail this one poor abused child So she literally leaves the narrative by committing suicide. It acknowledges that it doesn't have all the answers for this abused girl's problems and how the world has failed her. The ideal Higurashi happy ending just doesn't work for her.

It's also like how throughout umineko the golden land is portrayed as a happy ending but turns out to be a romanticized idea of dying and existing as fiction, in memory of the living. Sayo denies the idea of a reality where she can be anything but beatrice and a witch and dies believing this. Satoko does the same and commits suicide too. I'm not making any more Gousotsu posts after this because this interpretation probablt is far from perfect and might have holes, again I don't remember details so I can't form real counterarguments, I just wanna throw what I thought out here. I'd love it if more dedicated people gave it some more thought though.

Also unrelated but what the fuck is up with prison cells in a high school god fucking damn

when will the suffering end? i can't live without satoko...

>>45230550
It already has anon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUKw3WID6II

>>45232098
>HOW THE FUUU-?! -Ryukishi07

>>45232098
>prepare for the autistic salt war

>>45232098
>lalala i dont see anything, gonna post more character pics lalalala

>>45230594
>>45231098
It all comes down to your interpretation of what is real and what isn't. As well as forgiveness for bad plot decisions in return for what seems to be good hypotheticals. Hypothetically Satoko being alienated from Hinamizawa would be good, but the route to that is St.Lucia the most retarded plot device Ryu has ever "allowed" to be written and stuff like that etc.

>>45229940
yes! thank u ;3 you can have this as bonus thx

>>45230594
>>45231098
This is always a reminder to me that as a creator it doesn't matter how much time and energy you invest in your work in an attempt to reach the level of a masterpiece. The result of your work can be as lazy, illogical, sloppy and bland as you want. You can basically write a sequel to a book you haven't even read and yet there will be those who will be blown away by their own parallels between the works, who will defend you to no end and come up with the most convenient sounding interpretations while desperately trying to compliment you, who through their own projection will see in the work what they themselves want to see with the immortal argument without love it cannot be seen. These are the people who will, of course, tell you in one sentence how aware they are of the imperfections of the work itself, only to follow up with a dozen paragraphs celebrating the awesomeness of that same work. They live with an idealized version of distorted facts not allowing for a plethora of criticism, only positive explanations are allowed. They know best, from a few minutes of observation followed by endlessly analyzing the thing in question in their head, how everything was meant or what any given character thought even better than the characters themselves. Truly the autism of some is the gift that keeps on giving.

>>45232462
Malding.

Late to the party but I wanna say, Gousotsu's idea was bad but the execution was even worse.
Even with the same crappy concept we could have gotten a fun anime instead of boring repetition and setups with no payoff.
Remember how Rika hyped us back in episode 2?
>I'm no longer the little girl who knew nothing of the truth
We thought she'd pull out all sorts of NG+ tactics and vastly different scenarios, IMAGINE IF THE ARCS HAD 'MAGIC MURDERS' LIKE UMINEKO QUESTION ARCS.
Not necessarily what happened, but that's how Rika / the unaware viewers perceive it.

I imagine an arc in which Rika gets full protection of the Yamainu, they're guarding her and all is going well... Then Witch hijinks ensue and they start getting picked off one by one by golden butterflies / goats / whatever as they scream on the radio.
We could get some demon fighting Akasaka and Okonogi in a 1 vs 2. Cool shit, but they die in the end.
In Sotsu we'd get all the answers as to what truly happened, which was Okonogi shooting Akasaka in the back when he lowered his guard because he was secretly bought by Satoko or something, I'm not a writer.
But I'd have loved to have this duality of "magic question arcs, normal answer arcs" to keep things entertaining. They still had a fucking magical duel at the end, except it came out of nowhere and wasn't explained.

>>45230088
Lmao thats what you get for being a shitokei rat fucking pathetic nigger

>>45231398
Kill yourself rat find yourself a new hobby and loli cumrag to obsess with and beat your meat off

>>45229105
>>45231398
>>45230054
>>45232529
>>45230594
>>45231098
This is what you get rat now fuck off
Artist is not a shitoko art maker and you should fucking stop thinking about porn. you misinterpreting everything

>>45232710
Fuck off Satoko

Married to life

Might as well rename this general to /hig/ - Higurashi thread

>>45232753
Exactly we dont it here

>>45232769
Rat? Hypocritical rat

>>45232766
Married to my ki-SOUL

>>45232777
read a better vn

>>45229105
>>45230113
>>45230265
What the fuck is this manga?>>45232766
>45232753
Patchouli??????

>>45232769
i noticed that the umineko threads on v basically disappeared in the last few months. seems like were going into another waning period of interest.

>>45232784
Read an ass

I want to say thanks to Rikafriend the one who got me into emulating games

>>45232788
Yes? It's patchouli

>>45232462
You okay? People might like stuff that you don't, crazy concept I know. I just think Gousotsu isn't so bad, fucking relax. I'm aware of Gousotsu's problems, they've just been voiced a billion times already so why not talk about what I like about it.

Kill me Kill me Kill me Kill me Kill me Kill me Kill me Kill me Kill me Kill me Kill me Kill me Kill me Kill me Kill me Kill me Kill me Kill me Kill me Kill me Kill me Kill me Kill me Kill me Kill me Kill me Kill me Kill me Kill me Kill me Kill me Kill me Kill me Kill me Kill me Kill me Kill me Kill me Kill me Kill me Kill me Kill me Kill me Kill me Kill me Kill me Kill me Kill me Kill me Kill me Kill me Kill me Kill me Kill me Kill me Kill me Kill me Kill me Kill me Kill me Kill me Kill me Kill me Kill me Kill me Kill me Kill me Kill me Kill me Kill me Kill me Kill me

My punishment for learning to love again is to have my heart stomped and crushed from now on, this was what ryukishi always had planned for her since RGD where he made her into a prostitute. Now she's considered someone who'll fuck anyone who gives her attention getting pregnant from whoever ryukishi decides it to be loving anyone and everyone except keiichi. I wish I was never born

You didnt even read the vn and rgd, rat

>>45233586
Holy fuck youre a psychotic shipper and the reiwa artist in actuality doesnt give a fuck stop showing xe's xatter tweets, pathetic nigger. Lmao your tears are delicious now you can finally fuck off

Shitoko an actual shit lmao you get what you deserve shitsugou secondaries. Literally wasted cash on crack ship
LMMMAAAOOO AT SHIPPER COMMISSIONERS NEWNIGGERS

Rika the cutest lore story teller in the existence

>>45233586
>Now she's considered someone who'll fuck anyone
She was considered a slut ever since she was raped by Teppei in Tatarigoroshi, and Meryl has nothing in common with Shitoko. Get over yourself sperg.

>>45233586
Plead dont read rgd if you ever have free time

>>45233489
Kill yourself Kill yourself
Read an ass Kill yourself
Read an ass Kill yourself
Read an ass Kill yourself
Read an ass Kill yourself
Read an ass Kill yourself
Read an ass
Read an ass

>>45233586
It's your karmic punishment for all the Rika hate you spammed.
You wouldn't even give a damn if you weren't so canon obsessed that you would bet everything on a side story. In a fucking multi-universe world like WTC, it's just silly.

Please someone save Rika shes not a friend denier she loves friend someone be her friend please friend give Rika a friend shes lonely in switzerland please be her friend please bring her a rena and keichi please be her friend shes not a friend denier she loves friend

>>45234170
Kill you own ass Read yourself

I hope all are doing well, I will never forgive Ryukishi.
Good day.

>>45234444
What for? There's a lot to complain about.

>>45233586
Suicide livestream when rat? im sure satoko thinks of keiichi when shes creaming on teppeis cock

I bet these obnoxious japanese shitokoniggers were pressuring the hard working reiwa artist which is a rikafag and now he leaked everything about her being a whore. Good for him. It will silebce those rats for eternity

I hope all are having a good start to the week!! Shion and Mion wish everyone a happy Monday!!

fuck you have a shit monday and die

>>45234545
Rat
...

>>45234545
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOURE MAKING THEM CRY STOP

>>45234531
Happy Mionday, friend!!

>>45234531
>>45234545

Death to obnoxious attention whores

Satoko being a whore is a good thing, it finally gives her some much needed character development.

>>45234531
Which one is Mion and which one is Shion

>>45234771
Left is Mion, Right is Shion. You can tell by the slightly different eyes!!

>>45234888
Eyebrows* are you japanese?

>>45234901
If you wanna be specific, I meant the eyebrows yeah. Shion's are slightly rounder :]

>>45234531
happy monday anon!

>>45234545
Based

Fuck Mionfags
Fuck Shionfags
Fuck Rikafags
Fuck Satokofags

>>45235699
You forgot "Fuck Renafags"

>>45232462
based, i'm fucking tired of arguing with retards who can't see outside of their own delusional minds

Kiss Satoko
Headpat Mion
Hold hands with Rena
Cuddle Shion
Impregnate Hanyuu

>>45232462
The coping and hypocricy in this is so retarded. Discussion in this general is nigh impossible because of people like you who claim no one has an open mind, yet sperg the fuck out whenever anyone says something that isn't the same common opinion thats been shat out a million times already. You yourself didnt even try to give your own take to maybe continue discussion with anyone else, youre just crying because youre seeing someone enjoy something that you dont

>You can basically write a sequel to a book you haven't even read and yet there will be those who will be blown away by their own parallels between the works, who will defend you to no end and come up with the most convenient sounding interpretations while desperately trying to compliment you, who through their own projection will see in the work what they themselves want to see with the immortal argument without love it cannot be seen

Just like how people who endlessly hate on Gousotsu only want to see its bad parts and refuse to actually engage in a discussion that isnt shitting on it? Can you explain why your interpretation that gousotsu is just a heap of garbage with absolutely nothing of worth to it is so factually correct and that anyone who disagrees is a coping retard? Or are you just saying this because you didnt actually comprehend a single thing i wrote and just hate that someone is trying to defend gousotsu? I dont think its a stretch to assume that hmm, maybe a work written by the guy that wrote higurashi, ciconia, rgd and fucking umineko might have some meaning to it, even if it turned out a shitfire due to godawful production and exection

>These are the people who will, of course, tell you in one sentence how aware they are of the imperfections of the work itself, only to follow up with a dozen paragraphs celebrating the awesomeness of that same work.

Yes, thats what it means to play devils advocate, which is what im clearly doing. Pointing out the parts i like about gousotsu while being aware that its not perfect. If you actually read the post you're replying to, i literally say i dont care much for gousotsu but that i dont hate it and want to defend it instead of mindlessly shitting on it because its been done so much before already, what the harm in some defending even if im not interested in a full discussion. Its been 3 years, you should know whats wrong with gousotsu at this point and so do i, why do you need someone to vomit it out to you again? Someone made a perfectly concise reply, parts of which i could agree with to an extent, and they put it well. (>>45232208) It comes down to interpretation.

>They live with an idealized version of distorted facts not allowing for a plethora of criticism, only positive explanations are allowed

Again, swap positive with negative and youre calling out yourself. If you actually give a shit and if your brain actually comprehends the reasons why you dont like gousotsu, go make a post explaining why my specific view is so factually wrong instead of sperging out like this and filling this gen with your crybaby slop.

Again, I hardly give a shit about gousotsu, what i wrote on a whim out of boredom is just what i gathered after watching it way back and thinking about it for a while. Im not saying im right, its literally just how i see gousotsu personally. If you think gousotsu is complete slop good for you, everyone is free to have their own interpretation of a work.

>>45236130
kill yourself rikahater

>>45236198
I will live because I still need to embrace Rika as well.

>>45236130
Your genes will be in Rika.

Kiss Umineko
Headpat Ciconia
Hold hands with Trianthology
Cuddle Higanbana
Impregnate Rose Guns Days

Kill Higurashi, please

>>45230254
>>45230418
>>45230594
>>45230664
>>45231098
>>45232462
>>45236154
>>45236221
holy fuck kill yourself shitokonigger this is not your shitoko thread, rat. learn english, esl fucker

>>45236224
kill yourself fucker
hang yourself and stop talking shit about Rika

>>45236232
Huh? Rikahater trying to speak to me? Begone rat.

>>45236232
wrong

>>45236241
>>45236221
>>45236154
>>45236245
samefagging rat from shitcord

I'm new and i'm seeing that the "oooh desire" thing is there for years, how did people react to kinzo fucking Beatrice (his daughter)?

>>45236249
nu uh, i don't use discord

>>45236253
We love him
His daughter was actually his son all along

>>45236249
even though rika is best girl

>>45236270
>His daughter was actually his son all along
that's his grandson.

I wanna fuck stella so fucking BAAAAAD FUUUUCK

>>45236286
Also, i remember some servant said that they raised yasu far from Kinzo because the fear of him doing it again, that doesn't go against the idea of Yasu being (male), or Nanjo just thought Kinzo was a fag?

Is it just me who hates Higurashi? Most annoying character in the series.

>>45236290
>>45236241
>>45236228
>>45236284
samefagging non rikafag
Rika is better

>>45236333
fr rika is the only good character in the series

>>45236333
wrong

>>45236290
Can I watch?

>>45236154
Anon was clearly just projecting without any genuine interest in participating in the discussion.
His haughty wording gave him away from the very first sentence; and the rest of his post confirms that his only interest lies in making himself feel superior by trampling on other people's opinions.
No one who cares to learn more about a piece of media through conversation with like-minded individuals talks like that.
But I'm not surprised. We do actually have posters here who shit on titles they haven't even read just for the sake of it as well. It's all just another way to fuel the endless drama and shitflinging which has become the Raison d'être for certain posters in this thread.

>>45236295
Yes, that was Genji. Anon was simply shitposting.
Yasu is a Kinzo's daughter (female). The entire drama surrounding her fall from the cliff, and the fear of Kinzo repeating his mistake, don't make sense if you were to believe that she was a man instead.

>>45236295
>>45236393
Men can have sex with other men, specially weird rich old men

>>45236343
>>45236361
>fr
I feel disgusted
wtf were ciacancer all along

>>45236364
YES

>>45236393
Read the manga

>>45236270
>>45236295
>>45236393
>>45236409
nice shitcord headcanon, xatter troon

>>45236419
Thank you

Yasu's gender is never revealed, but all of the evidence points towards her being a girl.
First off, the entire plot point about Genji fearing that Kinzo might commit the "same sin again" and rape Yasu makes absolutely no sense if she was a boy. Kinzo is a very old-fashioned man with strict ideas about gender roles. He wouldn't somehow mistake a dick for a pussy and rape his son, just because he resembled his mother.
Genji and Kumasawa also wouldn't have raised an unsuspecting boy as a girl for no reason at all, while never telling him about his condition. It's just not in their character, especially not Kumasawa who grew quite fond of Yasu.
Last but not least, all of Yasu's problems (e.g not being able to menstruate, infertility or the lack of notable chest growth) are real-life aftereffects of a crushed womb. On the other hand, nothing indicates that a crushed dick would lead to smooth skin, feminine bodily and facial features or a female voice - which are all attributes Yasu possesses.
Kanon, Yasu's only male persona, has even been called out for appearing very feminine, whereas no one would ever mention anything of the sort in regards to Shannon.
>>45236409
You're free to do as you please, but don't drag Kinzo and Yasu into this.
>>45236420
>manga
lol

>>45236420
I just finished and it was bussin

>>45236435
death to boobniggers of /jp/ the most annoying group of people
>>45236438
you don't even know the characters they're cosplaying as, newcancer

>>45236438
>makes absolutely no sense
in your headcanon
>He wouldn't rape his son, just because he resembled his mother.
in your headcanon
>Genji and Kumasawa also wouldn't have raised an unsuspecting boy as a girl for no reason at all, while never telling him about his condition. It's just not in their character, especially not Kumasawa who grew quite fond of Yasu.
headcanon, they got paid
>Last but not least, all of Yasu's problems (e.g not being able to menstruate, infertility or the lack of notable chest growth) are real-life aftereffects of a crushed womb. On the other hand, nothing indicates that a crushed dick would lead to smooth skin, feminine bodily and facial features or a female voice - which are all attributes Yasu possesses.
false
>Kanon, Yasu's only male persona, has even been called out for appearing very feminine, whereas no one would ever mention anything of the sort in regards to Shannon.
she has huge fake tits of course she doesn't look like a man

>>45236440
kill yourself ironic oldie, using cccp's app lingo speech for annoyance

>>45236448
even though boobs are the most important part

>>45236457
bruh what the fuck are you on about

>>45236459
lmao in your failed otaku(otaku tendencies ruin one's taste in women or opposite sex) loser/jp/ DREAMS, the PUSSY is

>>45236471
even though that's not true

>>45236470
>more nigger speech
kill yourself asap

>>45236471
holy newfag

>>45236438
Don't try to reason with discord refugees.
The main propagator of that "theory" here hasn't even read the VN.

>>45236476
you're not making any arguments at all just statements, you lost. rikahater/flathater
>>45236486
holy ciafag

>>45236478
asap rocky? didn't blud die?

>>45236491
no i'm making great arguments because you're wrong

>>45236490
kek, the true face of shitoko niggers

>>45236501
wrong about what? autistic otaku meme spammer, flats are just superior and Rika is flat right? and you love bern because you're a stupid wanker and it's LITERALLY all about the thighs and ass you fucking cave dwelling monster
im fine with slander and thick thighs all thighs sizes and you should reevaluate your LIFE CHOICES

>>45236490
>>45236511
the question is who made this screenshot? he himself distributed them because he wants attention?

>>45236525
no you're just wrong because big tits are better

>>45236525
nah bruh you straight tweakin

>>45236545
you're a shittaster and a cave dwelling monster nothing more and nothing less.
>>45236553
i don't understand your nigger language anymore

I like big tits and big asses, everyone else should too! But if you like flat, thats awesome too!

>>45236490
Even though Beatrice is trans and you fabricated this screenshot to make everyone take your side

>>45236561
whoa some random post that no one cares about!

>>45236561
fr tolerance and shit man

>>45236563
>Beatrice is trans
this is what nu-xatter believes and no wonder why they're /v/posters as well
>>45236575
is this some kind of new raid?

>>45236563
Beatrice is a biological woman.
Satoko, however, was canonically raped by Teppei.

>>45236581
>this is what nu-xatter believes and no wonder why they're /v/posters as well
Oh come on, you're just dismissing reality

I have an idea
ban these from /jp/:
==========
Vtubers
Idols
Higurashi
People who use words that end with -oomer
==========
and the board will be saved

>>45236581
bro there is no raid what is wrong with you bruh

>>45236587
>>45236594
you're a nigger, rat, lmao why even bother posting in here

>>45236593
rat literally never even read rgd and any of the vn and he just posting in here like a leech. a shitposter leech

>>45236597
you're the one that can't accept valid trans characters in your beloved media

Be honest /07/th

would you fuck a man? this man specifically?

>>45236621
where it indicates that she's trans? where?

>>45236627
bro he fire

>discord hours in full swing
Reminder that this is a strategy to drive people away from /07/th into their shitcord.
Don't fall for unironic zoomers like >>45236490 picrel shitting up this place.

>>45236627
YES

>>45236645
it's common knowledge

>>45236645
that anon is trolling, but fucking read the VN again if you seriously don't get it

>>45236662
>he's trolling
>BUT read it just for the kekes

why newcancer neglect the genderbend troupe?

>>45236668
it's the truth

hypothetically speaking, would a /07/anon frot with a 2huanon?

>>45236819
hypothetically speaking, would you kill yourself?

Re-read the first 6 deaths from ep 1, just now i noticed the irony, battler claims that rudolph wasn't that bad of a guy, and that he wouldn't never go that far, and that Kyrie didn't deserve to go through this, in the end, Kyrie was a monster and Rudolph was his little helper, i guess that battler wasn't that bad of a person, Bern gameboard is dubious, because i don't believe that battler was histericaly laughing while Kyrie and Rudolph murdered Maria and George.
I just wish natsuhi was less of a nutjob and dropped a baby from a cliff, ep 1 really made her an amazing character

>>45224084
first covid, now war. ryukishi is afraid to write ciconia.

>>45236586
>satoko put of nowhere
Beatrice will never be a woman, read the manga.

>>45237024
>Bern gameboard is dubious, because i don't believe that battler was histericaly laughing while Kyrie and Rudolph murdered Maria and George.
Of course it's dubious, it is explicitly not the truth as well.
>I just wish natsuhi was less of a nutjob and dropped a baby from a cliff, ep 1 really made her an amazing character
No character in Umineko is pure good or pure evil; every family member or servant is a multi-layered, believable character with faults and good sides to them, and imo that versatility makes them all the more interesting.

>>45237159
stop being a newshit, she's not trans she's genderbend
holy fucking xatter/shitcord raiders

>>45237159
Imagine shipping a used good with K1.

>>45237222
He was born a biological man and had his mangled penis and testicles removed by nanjo, he now dresses up as a girl and calls himself yasu. That is the definition of being trans

>>45237249
Not even him, still waiting for you to tell me how yasu isn't trans despite the VN and mamga going out of it's way to tell you she is.

>>45237250
Interesting how you didn't bother replying to this post >>45236438, which dismantles your every "argument", shitcord refugee.
Kill yourself trans shitoko nigger.

>>45237250
Yasu was born a biological woman. The cliff incident rendered her infertile by internal organ damage due to the impact of the fall, damaging her uterus and ovaries. This could already be considered a miracle. Now, in the novel, when Yasu discovers the truth after solving the epitaph, this is what she says:

“Why...?!! Why did you save me?! Why didn't you let me die?! Because of that terrible injury,...I've been forced to live in a body like this!! I never wanted to live in a body like this!! This body that isn't even capable of love...!! What's...what's the point in living like that?! This isn't a human's life...! It's like being furniture!!”

It all makes sense if she had just been told that she was infertile due to the damage in the uterus. Honestly, after everything which happens beforehand in the novel, nobody could seriously believe for a second that a “body capable of love” is just a euphemism for “putting penis in vagina” (oh if only she had learnt about sodomy, they think) given how love is such a central element to the work. I interpret this as a “body capable of bearing love”, as in, carrying a child in her own body.

“Creating a universe” would be a good metaphor for this. By creating a child in her own body, she would have truly become a Witch of Creations, a title given to Maria, and a theme common to her given the parallels Maria herself establishes to the Virgin Mary (believing she was immaculate conception), again, returning to giving birth. It even makes more tragic the scenes where George talks to Shannon about forming a family, because she knows she can’t have children. It could also lead us to speculate that due to this knowledge, she treats Maria like her own child, in place of the children she will never bear in her own body due to the accident. This puts Genji, Kumasawa and Nanjo in a brighter light, since it’s not like they lied to her about her gender for 19 years, they would have not been so careless after everything. They never told her she was never going to be able to conceive, hence her reaction, which could lead her to seek revenge due to what was “taken from her.”

>not even me
lmao

>>45237261
YOU DIDN'T EVEN READ THE VNS YOU STUPID FUCKING FAKEST FAN EVER
RAT

>>45237280
WHY YOU'RE TAKING HIS BAIT UNLESS YOU'RE PLAYING ALONG WITH HIM LMAO
>>45237264
why do you post shitsugou Rika? huhuhuuh

>>45237280
>Honestly, after everything which happens beforehand in the novel, nobody could seriously believe for a second that [...]
Remember that you're speaking to an american shitposter who just wants to insert his trans ideology into otaku media.
Don't assume that your common sense applies to such people as well.

Reminder: If (You) use Discord, you are trans and you don't really love /07/th

>>45237295
Beautiful Rika.

>>45237261
Don't bother he's just baiting, the only reason he says Satoko was raped is to try to piss off sperg. Even if it's beyond retarded and has been disproven thanks to minagoroshi

Teppei not raping Satoko feels like a plothole

>>45237327
Well, he does rape her after all. Her mindbreak in tatarigoroshi caused by a male touch, as well as the sexual abuse tip are clear give-aways for any >90IQ readers.
Plus Teppei confirming that he'd rape Satoko once she grows a pair of tits in Minagoroshi, a fact which has been confirmed by her naked sprite all the way back in tatarigoroshi.

>>45237218
>Of course it's dubious, it is explicitly not the truth as well.
Wait its not? Tell me the truth
>>45237218

>No character in Umineko is pure good or pure evil;
Yeah, but rosa is a really bad mother and eva is a bitch and thats it, i know that beato should fall from somewhere some way, but throwing a baby from a cliff is like the third or second worst thing a member of this family did (considering that natsuhi was in a bad place mentally by the circunstance), its really good from the reader perspective, but i wish she dropped yasu more in a negligent way, like if she didn`t pay attention to the baby and he just felt from a high place.

>>45237264
It's because I'm not the poster he replied to dumbass but I'll respond
>>45236438
>First off, the entire plot point about Genji fearing that Kinzo might commit the "same sin again" and rape Yasu makes absolutely no sense if she was a boy.
???
This makes absolutely no sense, the sin wasn't that he got his daughter pregnant it was that he raped his daughter.
>Kinzo is a very old-fashioned man with strict ideas about gender roles. He wouldn't somehow mistake a dick for a pussy and rape his son, just because he resembled his mother.
You have no idea if Kinzo would or not since you're not Kinzo. All Genji knew is that Kinzo really believed Beatrice had come back to him in the form of his incest baby with his daughter, if his love for Beatrice was so strong that he was able to rape his own daughter then I see no issue with genji believing that he would rape his son believing it to be Beatrice.
>Genji and Kumasawa also wouldn't have raised an unsuspecting boy as a girl for no reason at all,
Except we have the reason, yasu lost his genitals after he was tossed off the cliff and was forced to have what remained surgically removed. Nanjo even explained how he had to perform emergency surgery on him as a baby because the damage was so bad. If yasu really was a woman then why would she freak out after being told this saying she has a body that is incapable of love is she was a woman? Just because she has a few scars? It's ridiculous, she was obviously written to have been born a man and to have lost his genitals in the crash and surgery.
>while never telling him about his condition. It's just not in their character, especially not Kumasawa who grew quite fond of Yasu.
>let's tell this child who is being raised an orphan and already has trouble fitting in without getting bullied that she was actually born a boy but had her genitals removed
Did you speedread the VN or something? They explain that they never told her anything about her past, birth, and accident in order not to make her life much harder than it was.
>Last but not least, all of Yasu's problems (e.g not being able to menstruate, infertility or the lack of notable chest growth) are real-life aftereffects of a crushed womb. On the other hand, nothing indicates that a crushed dick would lead to smooth skin, feminine bodily and facial features or a female voice - which are all attributes Yasu possesses.
Kanon, Yasu's only male persona, has even been called out for appearing very feminine, whereas no one would ever mention anything of the sort in regards to Shannon.
Someone raised as a girl her entire life would take on natural feminine gestures that become ingrained into her brain, including all the skin care and self-cleaning females do on a regular basis. If yasu is doing this on a regular basis then of course Kanon will look feminine too since all she's doing is switching clothes. Also this is based off an anime artstyle so of course she's going to look feminine no matter what there have been countless examples where they draw a girl but call it a boy. Everything you said here is not evidence but a sad cope to erase the fact that Beatrice and Yasu are canonically trans.

>>45237298
>>45237349
Reminder that this poster is a mentally ill German who's obsessed with NTR, I am not who he thinks he is but he will continue to repeat the same lines over and over again and purposely lie about it to bait people in the threads. His constant lying about Satoko getting raped should be proof enough.
>Plus Teppei confirming that he'd rape Satoko once she grows a pair of tits in Minagoroshi,
Not at all what he said, he said once she grows up to look more like her mother he'll make a move. Looking like a fully grown adult woman means more than having some breasts and we are shown nothing that implies or shows Teppei sexually abusing Satoko in Minagoroshi the awnser arc to Tatarigoroshi. This shows that you're nothing but a bad faith troll who's obsessed with just pissing off as many people as possible with lies

Women enjoy rape

>>45237484
Figured it was something like that going on, I was wondering why there were so many posts talking about Satoko getting raped glad to know it's just some German autist butthurt for some reason

>baby girl from 19 years ago harasses you on the phone
>they're a man now for some reason, but whatevs

>>45237600
Yeah, its weird that it looks like the voice of a man, but this could be a red herring, I think R07 wanted to confuse us in that aspect by not confirming the sex, because what the other anon said is also true, Genji wouldn`t have to worry with kinzo raping a boy, and the feminine features don`t come with just cutting your dick off.

You were all fooled by r07

>>45236525
would tongue her anus
>>45236130
why not impregnate rika ane hanyuu?

>>45237443
>You have no idea if Kinzo would or not since you're not Kinzo
Kinzo is explicitly characterized as a man with traditional values and views on gender roles. His outburst at Eva trying to compete with Krauss, a man, should've clued you in on that, if not the fact that he's a veteran from WW2. There is no reason to believe that he would feel attracted to a boy, but tons of evidence to the contrary.
>Nanjo even explained how he had to perform emergency surgery on him as a baby because the damage was so bad.
Considering what type of person you appear to be, you probably know all aboiut gender reassignment surgeries, but let me remind you anyways.
It requires constant hormonal treatment and even surgical corrections over the years, as well as daily dilation to prevent the open wound (which is what this so-called vagina really is) from closing, which of course Sayo never got. The artificial neo-vagina is a mangled axe-wound that won't even grow functionally with the child as they quadruple in size. If Sayo had a butchered abomination down there, do you think she would not have known? In this sense the manga’s depictions work against them, as Sayo is shown looking at an anatomy book (her real concerns are about puberty, i.e. periods and breast growth, which is why we see the other girls from Fukuin in their underwear, not her vagina).
The idea that a general practitioner like Nanjo would be able to pull that off and keep it hidden from Yasu all her life is ridiculous.
>If yasu really was a woman then why would she freak out after being told this saying she has a body that is incapable of love is she was a woman?
I'll refrain from wasting my time on that one, since anon explained that point earlier. >>45237280
Only a completely loveless person would equate "a body incapable of love" with the impossibility to have vaginal sex.
Most of Shannon's troubles in that regard stem from her inability to carry children, not the act itself.
>They explain that they never told her anything about her past, birth, and accident in order not to make her life much harder than it was
They never told Yasu about her past as an incestuous baby with a crushed womb, yes. Hiding her "true gender" from her and raising her in the belief that she was a woman, despite being male, would be on an entirely different level of ridiculousness. I am tempted to believe that I'm responding to a shitposter at this point.
>Also this is based off an anime artstyle so of course she's going to look feminine no matter what there have been countless examples where they draw a girl but call it a boy..
So in conclusion, your entire argument relies on the sad cope that ryu07 just didn't properly think about it and uses anime aesthetics to hide Shannon's gender, despite there being evidence (e.g people calling out Kanon's femininity) to the contrary and hinting at her being female all throughout the novel? Whew.

You are free to think whatever you want to, but I hope that you're aware that this sort of behavior is exactly the reason why western society has grown to despise your kind.

>>45237600
This is even more proof that yasu was born a boy, Natsuhi would expect him to sound like a man since last she knew the baby was a boy and still had it's genitals.
>>45237667
>Genji wouldn`t have to worry with kinzo raping a boy, and the feminine features don`t come with just cutting your dick off.
1. If Kinzo was so blinded by love to rape his own daughter then Genji has every right to believe he would rape his son especially after hearing kinzo say how that baby was Beatrice reincarnated again.
2. There are naturally feminine looking men in the world, or are you going to tell me they don't exist?

>>45237667
>, its weird that it looks like the voice of a man
That's because it's Battler's voice. They use the fact that Natsuhi never knew the baby's gender to their advantage and play a prank on her.

>>45236586
>>45234112
There was no rape anon, read the VN.

>>45237732
I frogot, is this made on the gameboard that battler wanted to fool Erika and end up with everyone alive?

>>45237349
>Plus Teppei confirming that he'd rape Satoko once she grows a pair of tits in Minagoroshi, a fact which has been confirmed by her naked sprite all the way back in tatarigoroshi
That makes sense, especially the part where Satoko is scared of K1 and the principal always seemed strange to me if she wasn't sexually abused. She never broke that hard through regular beatings.
And there had to have been a reason to show off her naked body - ryu07 doesn't add any unnecessary elements to his novels.

>>45237754
No, that happens in episode 6. Episode 5 is Lambda's game where the prank solution, as well as Natsuhi as the killer, are two separate, valid explanations.

>>45237696
Why bother putting that much effort into replying to some mentally ill troon's shitpost?

>>45237794
Dunno, I was mostly bored, and letting discordfags run rampant without putting them into their place now and then only advances this place's downfall.
I won't do it again if he bothers to reply again, and his next post is as full of holes and misunderstandings as the last one.

>>45237767
>ryu07 doesn't add any unnecessary elements to his novels
Lol
Lmao even

>>45237696
>you probably know all aboiut gender reassignment surgeries, but let me remind you anyways. It requires constant hormonal treatment and even surgical corrections over the years, as well as daily dilation to prevent the open wound (which is what this so-called vagina really is) from closing, which of course Sayo never got. The artificial neo-vagina is a mangled axe-wound that won't even grow functionally with the child as they quadruple in size
Why are Umineko fans so knowledgeable of tranny surgery? I doubt Ryukishi was aware of this shit.

>>45237696
>Kinzo is explicitly characterized as a man with traditional values and views on gender roles. His outburst at Eva trying to compete with Krauss, a man, should've clued you in on that, if not the fact that he's a veteran from WW2. There is no reason to believe that he would feel attracted to a boy, but tons of evidence to the contrary.
At the point of the story where his daughter gave birth to his son, he is a complete wreck only only truly cares about Beatrice and hates his family. If he really believed in traditional values then raping your daughter because you believe she's the reincarnation of your dead wife is pretty untraditional as is cheating on your wife. Kinzo did not care if yasu was a boy or a girl only that they were the reincarnation of Beatrice.
>Considering what type of person you appear to be, you probably know all aboiut gender reassignment surgeries
lmao not trans I'm just someone who actually read the VN
>It requires constant hormonal treatment and even surgical corrections over the years, as well as daily dilation to prevent the open wound (which is what this so-called vagina really is) from closing, which of course Sayo never got. The artificial neo-vagina is a mangled axe-wound that won't even grow functionally with the child as they quadruple in size. If Sayo had a butchered abomination down there, do you think she would not have known? In this sense the manga’s depictions work against them, as Sayo is shown looking at an anatomy book (her real concerns are about puberty, i.e. periods and breast growth, which is why we see the other girls from Fukuin in their underwear, not her vagina).
The idea that a general practitioner like Nanjo would be able to pull that off and keep it hidden from Yasu all her life is ridiculous.
You underestimate just how far ryukishi is willing to go for this to be true, everything you just said does not disconfirm that yasu is trans it just shows how stupid it is that its canon. The manga even shows that yasu feels like a freak because his body isn't like other girls, and you're exactly right that she just has a mangled axe wound in between her legs. Which is part of the reason why she freaks out so much when nanjo tells her what he did to her that she has a body that is incapable of love (sex/procreation) shes seen what a vagaina should look like thanks to looking at those biology books and that's why she looks so worried when she sees those pics since hers look nothing like that.
>Only a completely loveless person would equate "a body incapable of love" with the impossibility to have vaginal sex.
Calling someone loveless cannot replace an actual argument, on par with just insulting someone you already just admitted your own defeat.
>past as an incestuous baby with a crushed womb, yes. Hiding her "true gender" from her and raising her in the belief that she was a woman, despite being male, would be on an entirely different level of ridiculousness.
Which is why she goes off on them so bad when the truth is finally revealed and why they feel guilty enough to go along with her plan to murder her entire family. They're stupid and they thought they were doing the right thing and that's about all there is to them not telling her it doesn't need to be anything else.
>So in conclusion, your entire argument relies on the sad cope that ryu07 just didn't properly think about it and uses anime aesthetics to hide Shannon's gender, despite there being evidence (e.g people calling out Kanon's femininity) to the contrary and hinting at her being female all throughout the novel? Whew.
Yasu treats and takes care of herself as a female would, and men can have feminine features without being on estrogen. Of course Kanon would have feminine features, all yasu does is swap clothes. In conclusion you have no argument against anything I just said, all evidence points towards yasu being born male and until you find something that proves otherwise then that will continue to be the red truth.

>>45237349
>>45237578
>>45237280
>>45237298
>>45237578
>>45237696
why you're changing your ethnicity, rat the macaco? and why you're still obsessed with used goods?

>>45237767
>>45237349
Samefag. Why are Germans such secondary shitposters? Reminder that he has never read the Higurashi VN too

>>45237810
>>45237578
>>45237349
just slit your own throat shitokonigger
>>45237838
are you the baby who ventured into his domain like a dumbass?

>>45237810
>discordfags
They don't exist

>>45237834
>You underestimate just how far ryukishi is willing to go for this to be true
>everything you just said does not disconfirm that yasu is trans it just shows how stupid it is that its canon
Okay thanks, not going to bother with you any further lmao.

https://twitter.com/nonanonnon6u6/status/1724074899734663680

i think the troon faggot unironically been spamming those japanese artists with DMs and they got mindfucked by him so they leaked some unimportant parts of story like shitoko being a slut so now he's having a tantrum in here instead of xatter. if hes this obsessed with castrated cocks

>>45237696
>Most of Shannon's troubles in that regard stem from her inability to carry children, not the act itself.
Lion can't carry children either since he is a homosexual, but he doesn't go on a rant of having a body incapable of love.
You realize "making love" is an actual expression right?

>>45237858
>No argument
Could've just said you lost in shorter words anon

>>45237876
I wish I was Satoshi so bad

>>45237878
It's the discordfag aka shitokei spammer.
See here >>45236490; this is the true face of these people.
Just another reason why we should've gatekept better.

>>45237878
>mindbroken japtroon artists to the point they spam headcanon
So... Fucking... Zased...

>>45237794
shes so sexy i want her tongue in my throat in a hot kissing session

>>45237899
holy fucking obsessed faggot. kill yourself

>>45237879
>character with ambiguous gender is male because umm.. she just is ok?!
>voiced by a female VA btw
Mindbroken. Lion doesn't go on a rampage because she has a perfectly healthy body (reminder in case the manga left that out: Lion stems from a world where she was never thrown off a cliff), so she she is capable of carrying children as the successor of the Ushiromiya family.

>>45237892
>>45237899
so who distributed this pic? you?

>>45237899
unholy damned uncaring normalgod. keep living

>>45237917
It was probably himself.

>>45237914
Homosexuals can't have children with their partners, no.

What is Spergs endgoal here?

Amazing how this weird cope that Yasu is "male" didn't exist in Umineko discussion on 4chan for years until some tumblrino came up with it and it was spread in /v/ as ironic shitposting.
Weird to think that there are people nowadays who base their entire identity around a shitpost.

I honestly think Rika is the only unslutiest girl in hinamizawa and she was secretly having an affair with keiichi her beloved king so the end result of their offspring is those kids in hinamiwaza at least 112 of them and i don't know their names cause i could careless about shitty side story manga

>>45237945
Driving people into his shitcord by spamming the threads as much as possible.

>>45237945
To make Satokei canon at any cost

>>45237945
CRASH THIS PLANE WITH NO SURVIVORS

>>45237951
Cute and canon.

>>45237959
Ridiculously needs help, (you)

>>45237945

>>45237964
yep

>>45237959
Sperg won before the game even started...

>>45237945
He blames umineko and it's fans for what happend to Satoko in Gou so now he has a massive hate boner for anything umineko related

>>45229940
I propose a yurifag equlivalent of left can't meme.

>>45237983
go eat gobble on horse's reproductive organ you fucking cum guzzling maggot

>satokei
>trans headcanon
So he just chooses the most controversial topics and spams them ad infinitum? Is that really it?
Very weak shitposting game.

>>45237983
I believe in Reiwa, history will prove him right

>>45237998
I propose your hand

why this shitcord nigger shit lumping dlanor into his mess and then drone self posting like an omega faggot?

>>45238004
>Very weak shitposting game
>has completely destroyed all umineko threads on this website and makes every discussion based on higurashi about Satoko in some way

>>45238004
Sperg is so cute

>>45238026
Being a spammy nigger who drives people away through his unlikable presence does not make his shitposting any better.
That used to be an art, and repetitive /pol/ or /qa/ raids are anything but that.

>>45238039
>>45238039
>>45238026
>>45238004
Stop replying to yourself actual fucking obsessive nigger

>>45238026
this nigger really trying to praise himself?

>>45238039
>shitposting
>art
Does it really matter if he got what he wanted in the end? Also there is no such thing as shitposting being an art there's a reason why it's called SHITposting and no anon you baiting someone epic style does not make it funny or better in anyway

Its funny how natsuhi design was supposed to be beatrice at first, If i could write shit i would write a story that Natsuhi is don't attempt to murder an infant and instead Natsuhi and Lion work together to make things right and the murderer is really kinzo (maybe with real magic) trying to bring back his beatrices (daughter and ex lover).

do people really think sperg is behind the umineko tranny meme? There can't be this many newfags right?

why you cocksucking rat drones replied to his posts and his shitoko nigger posting? what the fuck is your problem? been using AI generating text and replying to yourself?
>>45238065
kill yourself shitokonigger

One of the worst threads we've had in a while. Congratulations /07/th, stop making threads.

>>45237998
go puke on donkey's digestive organs you godly gold emanating king

>>45238086
New cycle for the Rikagod >>45238046
>>45238046
>>45238046

>>45238071
Also natsuhi looks like the type of person who would be a lovable wife, if she wasn't obligated to marry Krauss she wouldn't be the wacko she is, she would have a happy life, different from Kyrie, Kyrie is a evil person from the root.

They won.
Sperg won.
True love won.

>early thread
I'll make a new OP tomorrow once we actually reach page 10.

>>45238105
GO BACK TO /v/, nigger
and stay there

>>45238105
Cute and Canon!

>>45238106
>>45238113
you're psychotic, rat, you won't make any shitokonigger threads. period

>>45238105
Keiichi is so nice, treating used goods like an actual human being even though he feels like puking from the smell of Teppei cum oozing out off her every hole!

>>45238105
>>45238113
>>45238065
>>45238026
>>45238004
>>45237696
>>45237810
>>45237443
>>45237349
this is rat and his nigger homo faggots.

why even rikafans replying to rat who makes them seethe somehow?

>>45238130
Detekt0r German autist moment!
Try reading the VN's

>45238141
did you just doxxed yourself?

doxxing is against the rules sperg don't ever post my tag again.

>>45238106
>>45238141
lmao and who you're? the father of these threads? nope. you're ridiculously hypocritical, we all know you're rat who spergs over Rika while having episodic sperguim every 2 months like you did at the beginning of this thread. now please as you said, unmake yourself already.

>>45238173
so my old Rikafriend is a shitcord faggot? no way

>>45238173
seems like you're the Rikafag who find his posts on /v/ as well? you're a pathetic newfag as him

>>45238141
>>45238173
samefag
you will never be Teppei

and now he's posting as if he's accepting it
good someone needs to fucking range ban this psycho

So... Sperg won?

>>45238257
Pretty much.

can you go back and stop wasting posting resource?

>>45238207
Cute wife of Keiichi.

get stoned to death you psycho

>>45238207
Mrs.Maebara looks stunning!

Meryl > Lambda > Jestress > Takano > Vier > Satoko

can you shut the fuck rat you didn't read umineko, ciconia nor RGD. why you're samefagging again?

he and me literally the only souls left in this shithole. Fuck off

>>45238431
who and who?

>>45238470
why did you reply?
the piece of rat that talks about blonde shit like an obsessed cocksucker probably (you)

get loved to sleep you psychic

>>45238402
Tranny reddit image very fitting for cuckt0r

>>45238402
What do Takano, Lambda and Meryl have to do with the rest?

>>45238575
They are 34's.

>>45238592
They are both 3.

Took me too long to realise 34 was a Masonic reference.

>>45238173
Posting usernames isnt doxing, doxing is posting addresses or phone numbers

>>45236295
>they raised yasu far from Kinzo because the fear of him doing it again
and then they brought yasu back to the mansion

>>45236438
>whereas no one would ever mention anything of the sort in regards to Shannon
literally one of the reasons given for shannon's schizo downfall in the manga was that she had "a face anyone would mistake for a boy's" or whatever the fuck it was

>>45237280
>I interpret this as
so it's literally headcanon

>>45237600
no no you don't understand, if beatrice is a tranny and a former penis-haver my dick won't get hard and i can't coom

>>45237914
>character with ambiguous gender is female because umm.. she just is ok?!
>no androgynous male character in japanese media has ever had a female VA btw

>>45238071
>Its funny how natsuhi design was supposed to be beatrice at first
just the head though. both dresses were taken from the same magazine and it'd be really stupid if, like, ryukishi traced the one dress, then flipped a few pages further and was like, no this is way better for beatrice

>>45232788
>What the fuck is this manga?
No, that's just Natsumi Kei commenting on random Gou/Sotsu episodes. Natsumi Kei afterwards then worked on two arcs for the Higurashi Rei manga (Rei from Reiwa, not the old Rei) where there's a sudden 30 years timeskip and Satoko is married to some random Kimiyoshi guy. She was the first one out of the club to have a child too.

>>45237600
I don't think she ever learned the gender. In all likelihood, Nanjo, Genji and Kumasawa were the only ones who ever knew.

>>45237667
>>45237600

Episode 7 says in some fragments "the man from 19 years ago" was a woman rather than a man. So, yeah, within the narrative of episode 5's gameboard it 100% was a man, but then episode 7 says that part wasn't necessarily right.

>>45236627
my concubine. I need him. fit to be Rena's cum dump

>>45236627
That depends, would it be gay?

>>45240139
But you love trannies, sperg?

>>45241061
i hate trannies and i hate coomers

Lurkers who only look at pictures itc?

>>45242023
can you fuck off already from this place you psychopath?

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>>45242582
>>45242582

>>45242586
why you're this obsessed rat?

>>45242586
>blatant shitoko OP because le meryl is shitoko meme
you're obsessed. this thread >>45238046 is already enough

>>45242647
What do you mean?
>>45242673
>early

>shitokei thread got deleted
>and now you spamming a new thread will
you're mentally ill
>WHaT DO YOU meaNN
i mean what i mean, psychopath
>LE EARLY
how many early threads were made now you remembered to make on top of the new already made before? and it's meryl le shitoko alternative world character. kys

Meryl isn't Shitoko.

rat (you) thinks it is

rat...

so why you're adding more shit into already shitty general? why adding more fuel? we all know you're rat

shut up, rat. you're the rat

psycho wow you're a sob human being

rika
adoring
tard

rat