/jp/ - Otaku Culture

I wish pregnancy wasn't the ending but the beginning.

I kneel

I appreciate that they are actually allowing the heroines to fight other people, even if they're just drawn in silhouette. When I was reading Mekuiro and figured out that they basically were only ever going to show fights between heroines or the few side characters with few variations between routes, it was a little disappointing. Little things like that show that a developer is willing to learn and evolve their craft.

>>45215900
I have known people who get addicted to falling in love. How to explain it...? they can't live alone and need to have someone by their side. Emotional dependency is pretty fucked up

>>45215929
It's the same as smoking, you just get addicted to whatever chemicals your brain produce
It's more peaceful to live without trying it out

>>45215929
Every single one attempt at relationships ended up in a failure and a waste of a time, so nowadays I just read eroge instead, mostly plotge

Do you have to be autistic to enjoy this kind of text? Everything in this game feels like it was designated specifically to waste your time, it takes ages just to say one thing and every scenes feels 10 times longer than they should be

This has to be the most boring shit I've ever read in my life, it just has nice coating with nice art and music and a seemingly deep theme, perfect to fool retards

>>45215959
I'm not going to be so radical as to say that the experience is not worth it, because falling in love with someone is great, but yeah, the possible disappointment afterwards can be devastating. I feel that's why I liked white album 2 so much when I read it a few years ago, connecting with others can be really hurtful

>>45216053
You need to have more "soft" mentality to be able to enjoy the flow, if you keep thinking about how many times each word is repeated or how it could cut scenes to not waste time instead of feeling the vibe out then those kinds of "fairy tales" are definitely not for you

>>45216053
Don't care, I like it.

>>45216080
I don't have any experience with failing in love, but while reading eroge i experienced the kind of feeling several times where something inside your chest is bursting out, if love is anywhere near close to this feeling i can only imagine how painful it would be to live with it all the time

>>45216053
sakumoyu is largely a 雰囲気ゲー, both the prose and the structure of the story are intended to make you feel part of a fairy tale world; if you have read some japanese children's stories you may realize how obvious that is

>>45215929
They like the feelings they get in a new relationship but can't handle it when things become calmer. They also tend to have a strong need for drama or to be constantly reassured that the other person still loves them. It's using another person to regulate your own emotional state.

If we're gonna talk about this, then yeah, I fell in love once and it was like a fever dream. I couldn't think about anything else.

>>45215929
I fell in love with 2D and sperg about it everyday. Does that count

ive only fell in love with 2 vn heroines

>>45216155
I've read a bunch and none are written in such a boring way, even 銀河鉄道の夜 that is full of long allegories is always showing something new instead of constantly repeating the same shit
I'm pretty sure you have never read any japanese fairy tales yourself

>>45216053
I'm starting to realize that any retard can write a whole lot of nothing. It doesn't make the story more deep or meaningful just because it's long. Now I look for quality over quantity.

>>45216183
How long did your relationships last? Each time i fell in love with some character to the point of sperging about it everywhere it could barely last a few months, after that i would only continue to do so out of dedication

>>45216211
Recently I've been having a really hard time with long stories precisely because of that...

https://vndb.org/u242757

This one of you fags?

>>45216225
yeah not long, few months at most. I wonder if I'd be obsessed longer if I never had the feeling outside of eroge

JAV

>>45216256
I don't get it, looks like a random profile with almost no activity?

>>45216273
I think the novelty is essential regardless if it's 2d or 3d. I had once fallen in love with the kancolle character to the point that each time i heard her voiceline something was squeezing inside my chest but it barely could last long and with time i stopped feeling anything at all. But then a few years later when she got a new cg and voice lines that feeling blew up again and could last for a good few months after that. It's harder with eroge since the best you can do to feel some novelty is some merch

>>45216383
You can feel novelty with 2D all the time if you just made your own content, bro.

>>45216441
I guess this is what keeps all the artists going, wish i had any creativity to do something similar

New bare and Bunny announcement any day now.

Fuck other people. Take the self-love pill

Chiwa-chan is so precious.

Has anyone here read ONE trial? I wonder how much the experience has changed

>>45216545
Those colored text outlines in favorite are so ugly i swear, i always go to the setting and set each character's color to 0 because otherwise it kills my eyes

>>45216537
I hate myself more than anyone else.

>>45216537
This. I love looking at myself in the mirror and hearing myself talk.

>>45216256
Yeah, that's me.

>>45216730
The heroines that say stuff like this are usually my favorites. All I want to do is hug them tight and teach them the joys of self-acceptance and self-improvement. The MC has to not be a little bitch though.

Damn this scene was so epic, i like how each Masada's woman in the end is just a 恋する乙女

>>45216502
Cute cat.

>>45217038
>spoiler
Yeah that is one of my favorite things about his female characters too. One of the best scenes in the entire game right there.

>>45216053
That particular conversation portrays a feeling of tenderness and affection. If the characters just blurted out their business and got it over with, it would feel completely different.

>>45217253
Every conversations in the game is like this

I thought it was pretty clear that the interactions in sakumoyu are that way to contrast the purity of fantasy, hope, dreams and innocence lost versus the harshness and hopelessness of reality

>>45215846
My wife Yua...

>>45215892
>Story starts with heroine already pregnant
>Story follows the months of pregnancy, through birth and keeps going through child rearing
>You get "remembrances" through the whole history about how they meet, how they fell in love, their first time and why they decided to get pregnant.
Fund it

>>45217717
>Story starts with heroine already pregnant
>Story follows the months of pregnancy, but she dies during the birth
>You keep raising your daughter alone, she keeps reminding you of her mother, and in the end you decide to marry your daughter
I'm in

>>45215892
Is there an eroge with actual child raising and fatherhood/motherhood even? Shit always seemed slapped on if anything

>>45217755
Thanks, you ruined it.

>>45217448
by being repetitive and boring? I can get the intent but the execution is fucking shit

>>45217794
At most there are fandisks like Iroseka i guess
Also Extravaganza

childhood friend who remembers a marriage promise made when you were children and takes it utterly seriously

>>45217837
That trope is so annoying, like is there literally anyone who remembers shit they said as a kid?

>>45217857
I remember telling the mother of a childhood friend that her food makes me feel like puking

>>45217755
You wouldn't fuck your daughter

>>45217837
childhood friend who doesn't remember pretty much anything you did as kids and is mostly just annoyed about how her parents forced her to hang out with you

>>45217902
It's better to be me than some random faggot, at least I know for sure that I'm not going to beat her or cheat on her.

>>45217794
>Is there an eroge with actual child raising and fatherhood/motherhood even?
https://erogamescape.dyndns.org/~ap2/ero/toukei_kaiseki/game.php?game=21261

>>45217794
FDs i guess

>>45217925
>Not Sexually Involved

>>45217930
Isn't that a tiny append scene?

>>45216903
>The heroines that say stuff like this are usually my favorites.
I agree with this but I have the opposite reaction as you. I want to see them spiral into a destructive cycle of self-harm until they alienate themselves from all the people that they love.

Women who hate themselves and think no one will love them are so stupid, like girl you literally can just go outside stay still and do nothing and you still gonna get as many dicks as you want for free

>>45217954
No, that's the second part of her FD

>>45218226
You can literally find gay men to use you as an onahole right now, just go on grindr. You have no excuse to be lonely.

>>45216903
>I can fix her!

https://vndb.org/v25478

this is cool

https://www.dlsite.com/maniax/work/=/product_id/RJ266972.html

this is cooler

>>45218274
The fact that going gay is the only solution you have left if you don't want to be lonely as a male says it all

>>45218312
looks worse

>>45218226
>>45218318
Go back to >>>/soc/

>>45218318
The point I was trying to make is that people using you for unpleasurable, painful, and risky sex is not a sign that you are loved. How dense are you?

>>45218438
I don't understand your point. Sex between the same gender is inherently unpleasable, painful and risky. Sex between opposite genders is inherently the opposite.

>>45218552
Sex is painful and uncomfortable for women when the guy is selfish and bad at sex. Risky because of pregnancy risk and STDs. Having miserable sex where the other person doesn't give a shit about you is going to make someone feel more lonely in the long run. If a gay guy reamed your asshole with no lube, didn't even make you coom, and possibly gave you an HIV scare, you wouldn't be happy, I assure you. Now enough 3DPD shit, try to break free from the redpill garbage or you will be miserable forever.

>>45218715
There isn't a single VN protagonist that's selfish and bad at sex though.

>>45218756
https://vndb.org/c3560

>>45218756
I thought NTR shit is all about the protagonist having a small dick and being bad at sex compared to tyrone.

>>45218756
ENTER
https://vndb.org/c35613

>>45218827
Based...

Any good ロリゲー?

>>45218879
https://vndb.org/v231

>>45218715
>Sex is painful and uncomfortable for women when the guy is selfish and bad at sex
There is nothing painful or uncomfortable about it, at worse they can't get their orgasm unless you are dealing with sandpaperdick-kun
>Risky because of pregnancy risk and STDs
There's absolutely 0% risk of pregnancy with the pills, and condoms eliminate STDs

>>45218904
Yes, you have the loosest vagina here to know that sex isn't painful.

>>45218904
damn we got a real live escapee from the 2D realm
how did you get here? teach us how to go through the other way

>>45218879
Tsuushinbo

>>45217902
I would. Without any hesitation.

New thread from just a few hours ago and it's already littered with off topic trash, awesome

>>45219009
It's half a day old already and it's a weekend evening in Americas so it's quite understandable.

>>45219009
How about you actually bring something related to the topic then instead of meaningless throwaway replies

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22WhWxTa4a4
Any other eroge like this, that's not kusoge?

>>45218904
Shut the fuck up already.

>>45218918
>A woman's hips can drop off from high enough during sex for a man penis to bend and torn its ligaments
I guess sex for men can be painful too, where do i get my ticket?

>>45219053
https://vndb.org/v2966

>>45219077
Where's the eroge with that. I need to self insert with my cock being ripped off

>>45219081
I meant kamige where the heroines fight each other in front of you and you can choose to egg them on or intervene.

>>45219081
Jesus Christ that text is a pain to read with no stroke or drop shadow

arigatou meido-san

>>45216550
Isn't it all-ages now? That's beyond acceptable.

What happened to Ryuusei WA, is it dead? Shit, another unfinished one by Kinugasa I guess

>>45219345
I thought the third game was supposed to be in development already

>>45219376
When was it? iirc back a few months after the first one, they said 4 games was planned on their website, then near two's release, they deleted that line, and the gacha died, so idk

>>45215846
Finally finished VB Frontier... and also Frontier International. I had no idea that the latter was actually a remaster with extra stuff. I thought it was just a rerelease for the English version.

The eugenics program got downgraded to merely hiring units now. What a shame, I liked the pregnancies.
The game now limited your units. You only had at most 12 units of each type. I don't like it. I perfer having every one at my fingertips.
The menu controls were a bit clunky, at least for me. Drag-and-drop was fine and all, but there's 60 units you needed to gear here, and it's a hassle to do them all. I just only equipped the main characters. Abyss had one-click-to-equip-all function and I don't understand why they didn't reuse it.
The moon cycle and units were expanded to have more elements as well as day & night. 1 turn now only had 6 phases instead of 10. It's cool but didn't change the gameplay much.
The most annoying part for me was when you needed to defend the captured cities. In previous games, these happened at fix times, during plot points. Now, it's random and really screwed you over if you just wanted to go through the chapter fast. I sometimes had to spend 5+ turns in a row defending. They should at least had like a cooldown between invasions or something.

The plot took notes from Empire, a demon invaded the holy lands, then turned back and took over the demon land. It's nice and back to basics.
The game did a good job making me dislike the antagonists. Surtr was such a bastard. His grin after the change was really unnerving for me. True Odin was a surprise, but just as detestable.
Loki was fun and Hvedrungr was hilarious.
I liked all the heroines, except Fena. Nothing against her, I did warm up to her relationship with Loki, I just didn't like her design. Maybe it's the pink hair. I'm allergic to them.
The character endings were proper epilouges this time. Although the requirements for them were slightly more annoying to do in exchange. The goddesses can't be corrupted during the final chapter, so I needed to do that chapter twice to get both versions' endings. And there were several battles between the endings choice and the actual final battle so I needed to repeat them too.
At least I like the epilouges, except for evil Rigret end. That one was weird. She's the designated anal slut, so I guess she's like the punching bag for this game. It's too bad since I like her.
Also this game had too much ryona, especially during the chaos parts. It's too extreme for me.
The demonesses now had their own ending. Well one ending together instead of separately, but it's progress.
What I like the most about the heroines, but game didn't draw much attention to it, besides Tyrka, was that most of them were related to Loki. The incest was awesome.

I first thought the extra scenes added with the international version were like after-epilouge, a where-are-they-now thing, but they were just stuffs happening during the law route. What a let down.
I liked the lovely dovely H-scene with Tyrka. I dig their relationship.
Freya didn't even get anything lol. I guess people didn't like used goods. I liked her more than the previous motherly heroines from previous games.
Odin's H-scene was odd. I don't know why they went with that direction.
The isekai girls apparently came from ninetail's other games? I think one came from Gaia, but the references went way over my head at the time. Also her H-scene didn't happen with Loki, which was a strange decision.
Fun fact, my favorite unit was the Reaper, and she actually got H-scenes in this version, two in fact. Wild.

Idk. While I think the art for franchise peaks here and I do love the law parts, the chaos parts were too degenerate and extreme for me, which hold me back from fully enjoy the entire game.

>>45217919
Are there any like this?

I just read Subarashiki Hibi untranslated. Are you required to hate yourself to like it?
"Hey you otaku loser creep. Yeah you. So you want to play your eroge? Fuck you. Fucking kill yourself. You think it's okay to be attracted to girls while being a male who likes otaku culture? It fucking isn't get a fucking clue you fucking retard and kill yourself now. You fucking scumbag. You fucking trash. You should have been born female or at least as a male who's epic and manly. Stop liking what you like and read *classic literature* and stop being yourself and be epic and manly (unless you're female then it's okay to be yourself)." That's all I took away from it. Did I miss something? I admit I skimmed.

>>45219789
i didnt even like subahibi at all but damn youre retarded

>>45219798
How so? That's an accurate description of what I read.

Can't wait to see 200 messages when i will wake up because you fags are going to take the bait seriously as always.

>>45219830
If you just don't wake up, you won't see anything.

>>45219789
What the fuck did you read?

>>45218842
>Makes fun of the moebuts obsessed with anal sex
Insanely based writer

>>45219830
I'm not baiting though.

>>45219830
I don't understand why you complain every single thread with off topic bullshit. You must be the troll here.

>>45219891
nta, but this thread is full of fucking retards who feel the need to respond to every baits. It's funny that in a medium where you have to read so much, some faggots have such shitty reading comprehension that they can't discern that. That one above for example, who the fuck says "Subarashiki Hibi"

>>45219914
youre one of them btw

>>45219914
>acknowledging it
Yeah, clearly you're talking about yourself third person. Once again, people like you aren't helping at all.

>>45219914
I do?

>>45219634
I would love to play these games but the gameplay pill is so fucking hard to swallow. I've had Galaxy Angel and Rance on my PC gathering digital dust for years but I still can't bring myself to play them. But putting aside my fear of trying new things for a moment, nice review anon.

>>45219998
at least give Rance a try, anon
it's great for lots of reasons

>>45219634
I wanted to peep those games because I know there's futa in it. But how much is prevalent in the actual game? It's like in Subahibi or Rance where the futa is only in one scene?

>>45220009
I definitely have to play at least the first one but even so I don't think I'll play it very soon. I'm still busy finishing what I'm currently reading to make time for the games coming out this and the month

>>45220061
and next month*

>>45220054
I'd say it pops up occasionally. It's not the main point, but also not a one time deal either. There's on average maybe 5 scenes per game.

>>45219634
I hope you make a compilation of all your posts at some point, you've written some good shit

Are Shumon games plotge or prosege?

>>45220181
>sex with protagonist only
moege
>sex with others
plotge

>TROPES! TROPES! TROPES!
Shut the fuck up. Read a dry manual if you can't handle classic storytelling.

hate tropes
love deconstruction
simple as

Any dry manuals about visual novels?

>>45219998
play https://vndb.org/v15652
it doesn't get talked about by alicesoft fans because it isn't some massive game you can dump 100+ hrs into like most of their other stuff but because of that reason its alot less intimating to try for someone who's never read anything with actual gameplay.

Also its just good in general writing wise along with its gameplay but that's to be expected from alicesoft, OST obviously goes hard too https://youtu.be/x5Hr71E4Bmc?si=CiNNeMjywusfGYlG

>>45220437
Are you White?

>>45220455
Shame that they had MIN-NARAKEN do the art. No doubt Alicesoft's worst illustrator.

>>45220459
No, thankfully.

>>45220468
looks fine?

>>45220469
Are you Chink?

>>45220478
I'm a SEAGOD, which allows me to comprehend visual novels more than the Japanese themselves.

>>45220459
ya

>>45220468
Dunno, he's pretty good.

>>45220468
Shit taste, his artistic style gives a really entertaining aesthetic to the games

>>45220468
I only dislike his art in Alicesoft's hag games.

>>45220476
>>45220549
>>45220557
>>45220567
Onigiri-kun is their best artist.

I don't know about AS illustrators, because they have all been pretty good, but composer for me will always be Shade (not only in AS, but in general). How the fuck can anyone be that good?

>>45220468
just say you're a faggot https://files.catbox.moe/280qe0.jpg

>>45220651
Yeah he nailed it with pic related too.

>>45220675
Horrible game, rpgmakerslop is awful. hgg2d fags should all kill themselves for circlejerking this crap

>>45220675
Kamige, hgg2d fags will ascend to heaven for their kami taste

>>45220651
>Goes from working with one of the greats to one of the Chinks.
Anons, is this a huge downgrade for him?

>>45220733
As long as he can keep making money and more good shit, cool for him

>>45220697
Unironically filtered.

>>45220455
I think Blade Briders is one of the weaker Alice Soft titles.
I've given it two chances now and I struggle to find reasons to give it a third.
I really like the cast but I find the gameplay and story uncompelling.
The characters themselves are great but their relationships felt shallow.
Maybe it gets way better right after I stopped but it just feels like a "Shaman's Sanctuary" to me.
Don't get me wrong, it's still Alice Soft, it's above average, but I don't think it stands out in their catalogue.

For a person who's interested in Alice Soft games but isn't sure about gameplay I'd recommend Haharanman.
The gameplay is very simple and easy to learn but still challenging and satisfying. The OST is one of my all time favorites. Just beautiful.
I also love the Taisho era setting, it feels refreshing. It's a very comfy game despite all the rape and abuse and murder.
The Japanese is fairly difficult though so it isn't a great fit for a new learner.

>>45220779
isn't this cuckge?

>>45215846
>Y*a

>>45220900
https://files.catbox.moe/boh9du.ogg

>>45220900
kek is that a jojo reference

>>45220900
it's a nice reminder, i tell myself. that other people do not think the way you do
every time i see someone who doesn't think yua is the best shit since sliced bread

>>45220957
I prefer heroines who don't make me wear a condom then laugh at the sound of my children dying.>>45220957

>>45220970
lmao, I'm going to have to read this shit

>>45220970
if you didn't find this funny then i'm afraid i have nothing left to say to you
are you only gonna fuck her once or what?

>>45220995
I don't play asapro games for comedy or heroines with wacky personalities.

>>45220970
This is okay as long as there is a scene where you mercilessly nakadashi her later.

Ideally throat nakadashi and anal nakadashi too.

>not being wacky with your girl during sex
And this is why you can't get any.

>>45221134
We only love pure vanilla sex here

>>45221136
Which includes anal sex, of course.

>>45221119
Shitposting aside - this is my real problem with Yua. She's namaiki as fuck and never gets corrected and gets the most vanilla scenes in the game.
Give her one of Rui Rui's chokefuck scenes and all would be forgiven
>>45221134
Anon, I thought the fact that I said
>I don't play asapro games for comedy or heroines with wacky personalities.
When those are the two primary appeal points of asage made it obvious it was a joke. It's like saying "I only play light games without homoerotic chuuni fights"

>>45221151
>this is my real problem with Yua. She's namaiki as fuck and never gets corrected and gets the most vanilla scenes in the game.
>problem
listen here
your problem is another man's treasure
you may have your personal preferences but i would prefer if you kept them far away from reality

Ok faggots, what is your asapro ranking? it would be cool as a reference

>>45221193
i'll let you know when i get around to asa-bro-fuck
generally however they have been better the more recent they are
this will depend upon what you're looking for, but should hold relatively true

>>45221134
Any other heroines that are wacky during sex?

>>45221216
I see, I read this one https://erogamescape.dyndns.org/~ap2/ero/toukei_kaiseki/game.php?game=23727 a few years ago and felt it was pretty bad, so I never played anything from asapro again, but you guys have been sending some ss for a while now and the other games look genuinely fun

Is it going to be ludo or slop?

>>45220116
Good enough. I'm really scraping the barrel for futa content.

>>45221250
I'll wait until it's out and then read it and then decide.
Is it just me or are more VNs releasing directly onto steam these days? I didn't think it was that big in Japan.

>>45219638
riaru

>>45217837
obviously not eroge but I loved the reverse of this in Medaka Box

>>45221267
bst was steam only iirc

>>45221267
It's a short all ages game with simultaneous EN/JP/CN release. Most of the Steam purchase will probably be from outside Japan.

>>45221250

>>45221113
>I don't play asapro games for comedy or heroines with wacky personalities.
Why else would you play them lmao
>>45221151
>She's namaiki as fuck and never gets corrected
based

>>45221329
Anon, did you somehow miss the second half of the post you just responded to?

>フタマタ恋愛
wait, asapro makes cuckge? i thought they were a moege brand.

>>45221334
Yes, just read it now

>>45221335
Did you miss the whole koibana "controversy" a while ago?

>>45221335
Futakoi is MC cheating on multiple women, so that's okay.
But some people did not react well to the bro announcement in Koibana.

>>45221343
That anon is obsessed with that "cuckge" shit, just ignore

Futamata > koibana.
Heroine personalities aren't wacky enough in koibana. And koibana is not melodramatic, unlike futamata.
Surely having bros with their own thots is nice, makes me feel like I read actual romcom. Waiting for FDs.

>>45221351
Student council election arc was pretty melodramatic.

>>45221352
Not enough desu

Avesta's almost certainly getting enki'd, right?

>>45221531
Probably yeah. Definitely if they don't announce something soon, in like two weeks at most.

>>45221652
This needs to lead to anal sex.

>>45221188
Based. I'm tired of the wakarase meme. I want namaiki heroines to stay namaiki.

>>45221652
Moege needs more chibi lewds

>>45221652
Is this sfw?

Too many NTR jokes...

>>45221664
Oh, niiice.
Though dunno if it's the same scene.

Tina's especially adorable here

>>45221267
Please understand they need that american and chinese money.

>>45221975
>American
>Buying digital powerpoint
Unless it has Twitch Meme potential, forget about it.

>>45221784
Why those fags always hide the only good heroine behind other routes
At least the guide says you only need to finish 1 route for it, how long it is?

>>45217448
>>45217804
I think the main fault was in the poor as fuck editing, you can just tell that no one even bothered just by the sheer amount of typos it got released with
It could still easily manage to keep up with that style without losing much just by cutting some edges here and there, but instead it just feels like a writer's masturbation

>>45222105
Well considering that they use vtubers to promote their shit and some even make versions for shilling on youtube you can expect those pretty soon.

blocks your path

>Story hasn't even started and i already found a typo
Off to a great start

In your honest opinion, what is the truly artistic VN you have read?

>>45224896
Engrish is how you know you're dealing with a superior product.

>>45224913
What does that even mean?

>>45224942
A vn you could unironically consider a work of art, potentially with life-changing properties. Vn that made you cry and think about life, but in good non-nihilistic way, etc.

>>45224913
>>45224953
Bro, it just is Sakura no Uta for me.

>>45224966
>Scaji
But didn't he say "le life is meaningless, so mon panache and delude yourself."?

>>45224913
>>45224953
Dasaku

>>45224976
Didn't seem that way to me.

>>45224986
He literally rejects objective meaning in Subahibi if I'm not grossly misremembering it.

>>45224994
I said Sakura no Uta.

>>45225002
Did he change his opinion of life then? Looking more and more interesting to me now.
Could you describe the philosophical "catchphrase" of Sakuuta?

>>45224953
Im pretty sure there is plenty of moege out there that made anon reconsider their life

>>45225053
I thought so too, which is why I added the non-nihilism cause. I feel like too much moege could make one disregard the value of life.

>>45225011
I dunno, I only know it changed a lot for me. And sorry, I'm not really interested in talking about the details too much.

I'll say that Sakuuta had a real pratical effect on my life, getting me where I wanted to be. This really isn't something special or deep btw. There just was something I wanted to do and Sakuuta gave me a hint how to get to it.

And about the "meaning" contantained in the game, I'll say I liked chapter 6. You know, how Naoya still had it after all that years. It was very inspiring.

I haven't read Toki yet btw. I'll have to dedicate some time to it one day. Ideally with a reread of Uta too.

>>45225011
Nta but here is the best quote of Sakuuta for you
It's up to you how to interpret it
「人と共にある神は弱い神だが、それでも、人が信じた時にそばにいる
芸術作品は永遠の相のもとに見られた対象である。そしてよい生とは永遠の相のもとに見られた世界である。ここに芸術と倫理の関係がある
何も、永遠の相を保証するのに、絶対的な神なんていらない。人は、人のための神を感じ、そして、感動すればいい……
弱い神は、かよわき人々の美の中にいる。だから、そのかよわき神には意義がある。だから、俺は言うのさ
さぁ、受け取るが良い。この絵にやどった神は、永遠の相だ。この感動は一瞬だが、永遠だ。そして、そこに幸福がある……
かよわき神と共にしか、幸福なんて感じられないさ
だって、強すぎる幸福は、強すぎる酒と変わらず
人を悪酔いさせるのだから……」

>>45225061
>could make one disregard the value of life.
Or the contrary, it may make one value life more, not everything has to be negative.

Not gonna lie this is one of the coolest phrases i've ever seen

>>45225971
Senshinkan also has a lot of cool phrases.

>>45220877
It is and it isn't.
The goal of the game is to protect the heroines from being raped, mind controlled, abused, and killed.
So I suppose you could say it's netorare if you lose. But the concept is that that only happens as a punishment if you fuck up.
If you do well, it actually feels a lot like a "netori" game where you steal the heroines back from the type of shitty guy who would normally end up with them in a trashy NTR manga.
For example, the green bar in the center of the screen is essentially the sanity meter of one of the antagonists, and you lower it by having sex with the heroine he wants where he can see so he gets jealous.
If anything it almost feels like the opposite of cuckge. You train with your sword so you can defeat any rapist, you manage your schedule so you're always there when a heroine needs you, you use the magic gifted to you to heal the psyche of girls who have been mindbroken. In this city, while the Sakura trees bloom, any man or monster that wants to touch the women you love will learn to fear your name and your blade.
As a person with negative interest in NTR, I can say that I enjoy it very much.

>>45226020
Picked up. I like netori ge

>>45226014
Masada really gets what 男のロマン is really about

>>45226041
Yes. I'm feeling proud to be 男 when reading Masada works

>>45226062
What's the feminist's version of this? Gotta have gender equality after all.

>>45226077
Not sure if you can call Eleonore a feminist or antifeminist

>>45220779
>>45226020
I'm not particularly a fan of gameplay, but after reading your posts and taking a closer look at the game, I have to say it looks pretty damn good, so I'll try my best to play it before the end of the year. And the OST indeed goes hard
https://youtu.be/vTtA7VhmwPE?si=EGQ7voxbbbyveGo-

>>45225971
Okay but what if a woman wants to be cool too

>>45226194
>smaller girl's va
idk it kinda doesn't feel fitting at all, sad

>>45226202
Sure thing she can go ahead

>>45226210
I think that's a you problem bro, I already love all those girls

>>45220779
>>45226020
The gameplay was fucking awful and it's the second worst alicesoft milfge, Heartful Maman taking that spot for being a complete waste of time for 80% of its runtime.

Alicesoft should take another stab at the Dai series and course correct what Daiteikoku did wrong.

This isn't the kind of content I was expecting in Sakura Moyu.

(Chiwa route spoilers.)

>>45226020
This game sounds cool. Even if the gameplay isn't amazing, I'd rather play something unique like this over something that's basically just a regular RPG/strategy game with h-scenes added in.

>>45226202

>>45226357
It's called a dark fantasy for a reason

>>45226412
It has dark man NTR? Picked up, I love plotge.

>>45226357
It's moe, bro.

>>45225192
I can't seem to interpret it?
Also
>It's up to you how to interpret it
isn't this basically a form of soft nihilism?

>>45226412
Clearly yes.

>>45225192
I think sca-ji does here exactly what wittgenstein was cautioning us against. Sca-ji's trying to make a statement about good life, he's trying to express the inexpressible, the mystical aspect that can only show itself to us and whatever you say about it will only turn out to be nonsensical. He's engaging in the futile effort of answering unanswerable nonsensical philosophical questions. I don't know if sca-ji is illustrating here how weird it would sound if someone who regained spark in his life is talking about his experience of the problem of life. Maybe he was trying to engage in language-games that later wittgenstein was so fond of but this isn't quite that.

>>45226438
'God with man is a weak God, yet He is near when one believes.
A work of art is an object seen under the eternal phase. And a good life is the world seen under the eternal phase. Herein lies the relationship between art and ethics.
Nothing needs an absolute God to guarantee an eternal phase. One only needs to feel and be moved by God for man. ......
The weak God is in the beauty of the weak. So that weak God has significance. So I say.
Now, receive. The God in this picture is an eternal phase. This impression is momentary, but eternal. And there is happiness: ......
You can only feel happiness with a weak God.
Because too much happiness is like too much alcohol
It makes one as drunk as too much alcohol. ......

>>45225192
Basically sca-ji's liberal watered down interpretation of this quote but I don't think he's quite getting at what wittgenstein is talking about. You need to understand wittgenstein's distinction between showing and saying to properly interpret what he's saying it. You should also keep in mind how he defines eternity view.
>if we take eternity to mean not infinite temporal duration but timelessness, then eternal life belongs to those who live in the present.
He isn't saying "life when you look at it holistically is just a collection of happy and unhappy moments, and both are intrinsic to living".
>The solution to the problem of life is to be seen in the disappearance of the problem. Isn’t this the reason why men to whom the meaning of life had become clear after long doubting could not say what this meaning consisted in?
Looking at art through this view was perfectly portrayed in zypressen where the mystical element in noaya's art exercise shows itself to rina and inspires her to become optimistic. Similarly, if how you are living is in certain harmony with your world, the good life shows itself to you, and the condition of death wouldn't bother you.
>Fear in the face of death is the best sign of a false, i.e. a bad life’
I think sca-ji does here exactly what wittgenstein was cautioning us against. Sca-ji's trying to make a statement about good life, he's trying to express the inexpressible, the mystical aspect that can only show itself to us and whatever you say about it will only turn out to be nonsensical. He's engaging in the futile effort of answering unanswerable nonsensical philosophical questions. I don't know if sca-ji is illustrating here how weird it would sound if someone who regained spark in his life is talking about his experience of the problem of life. Maybe he was trying to engage in language-games that later wittgenstein was so fond of but this isn't quite that.

>>45226465
>He's engaging in the futile effort of answering unanswerable nonsensical philosophical questions
Isn't it a whole point though? His passion for trying to make sense of inexpressible stuff is what makes his chuuni so fun to read
He isn't writing a fucking philosophy article here or something, he is writing a fiction story

I like Lucle's prose

>>45226508
Mtl in shambles...

>>45226535
I like the melodramatic style like in Kamimaho but prefer when he tones it down. Unmei Yohou's style was great.

>>45226535
that makes two of us

>>45226535
It didn't seem that quirky to me in Kamimaho. Good, readable, but not something where you would have to decide whether to like it or not.

The story and its twists are the true great part of Kamimaho to me. I guess you can say that make his prose good, it's just right to not get in the way.

>>45226535
His prose actually felt inspired by scaji in Lupercalia
All of those poetic monologues toward the end sounded exactly like something scaji would write

>>45226528
Vn that are a philosophy article?

Most Christian VN?

>>45226558
>It didn't seem that quirky to me in Kamimaho.
Really? It's nothing like anything else I've ever read. Every detail gets elaborated in multiple lines comparing it to something tragic. For some people it was too over the top but I enjoyed it.

>>45226652
https://vndb.org/v3660

>>45226646
This looked interesting https://vndb.org/v611

>>45226679
Is it legit or the usual Japanese aesthetic level?

>>45226679
Complete with gay pedo priests, very realistic.

That's too high iq for me i'm out.

>>45226652
This one is very heavy on christian terminology, didn't finish it yet though https://vndb.org/v807

>>45226668
I dunno, I guess I just was so into it that the prose kinda faded away for me. I really focused on the story.

>>45226722
Looks very gnostic.

>>45226755
Well the whole setting is basically a purgatory

>>45226652
Tokyo Babel

>>45221351
If the release is the same as usual then they will probably announce FD within this month.I need to see Tokiya and Mia having the most retarded and autistic sex conversation ever.

>>45226652
https://vndb.org/v2230
You have the most religious girl shit on a statue of God.

>>45227118
>flat girl torturing a cow
I found a new fetish

>>45227118
>touchy
I played https://vndb.org/v2290 a few years ago and I think it killed part of my soul for good.

>>45226652
cross channel

I just came to realization that Nitro chiral has outlived Nitro+ and their main writer keep making kamige for 20 years
Just where did the world turn wrong

>>45227336
Turn right you mean?

>>45227336
I will never forgive those faggots for dogura q, that shit had me genuinely hyped

>>45227181
That's Chuck Miyabi for you. Played his other works?

>>45226652
https://vndb.org/v1566

>>45227483
Are you not hyped for their new steamge with reused Tokyo neggro 3d graphics

While we're already on this subject, how about eroge featuring these religions?
>Islam
>Judaism
>Orthodoxy
>Zoroastrianism
>Taoist

>>45227564
>doesn't even exist as a tag

>>45227494
I played https://vndb.org/v6158 before it, but nagarusu just went to a different level of comically over the top cruelty with the tiny loli heroine (and all the interactions with her dad) as opposed to the older girls in the first game.

>>45227684
Did you play the last game from that trilogy too or did you stop?

>>45227706
Never got around to it.

>>45227763
Try it when you have time. It's more or less like the first one.

>>45221700
I only just realized, but that cap is adriano goldschmied? drip

>>45227483
Funnily enough there's also a popular BL game (https://vndb.org/v17018)) with a taishou setting and Yumeno Kyuusaku references.
Guess the only choice left is to become gay.

I love the romantic scenes here so much, wish there were more of them
Ren might be a slop but when he does a きめる move it doubles the impact

>>45226354
Would kill for a Daiteikoku remake with proper main heroine h-scenes like Daibancho. No idea what was TADA thinking when they allowed the game to ship in that state, probably going senile, retard or both.

>>45228021
It is bad? I was interested in it because voiced

>>45228021
To be honest I never understood the shit that game gets, I thought it was pretty fun

>>45226652
Unironically https://vndb.org/v24202

alright now that we've got that straightened out, what's the least Christian game?

>>45228245
Can't go lower than this https://vndb.org/v14314

>>45228036
It wasn't bad, but development got screwed hard.

>>45228060
Broken promises and half baked ideas and those resulted in a really bad impression to fans.

>>45228285
That is the point. If you take it to a videogame context, fable 2 and cyberpunk were similar cases, but if you don't know all the advertising campaign and the "promises" that surrounded both games during their development, they are really solid and entertaining titles. The diversity of socio-political currents surrounding each nation are very well differentiated, and it makes very good use of all the shit surrounding the cold war while giving it a more comedic approach as is typical of alicesoft games. Damn, even all that shit about having to organize your ships well for each battle was really fun. For this reason and more, I still don't understand the shit that many people throw at it

Don't worry you they will remake it eventually
In the form of gachashit

>>45222168
Common and An's routes are relevant to Tina's route. Both are a tad bit long.

https://streamable.com/u5hl7m
Now this is some next level high-quality laugh

been playing damekoi this weekend, I think Maruto might once again save my life bros...

>>45229888
If an eroge is "saving your life" then you weren't going to do it anyway. You're just an attention whore.

Do you feel overwhelmed by your backlog?
Don't get me wrong, if I'm not enjoying enjoying a game I don't force myself to stick with it. I've accepted that if my memory is already fuzzy even on games I love then there's no sense in absorbing every word of a game I'm not enjoying and I'll either skip through a route or outright drop a game. But I just get so overwhelmed by how many games are available to me that even when I'm enjoying something I'm always distracted by other games I'm eager to play and will frequently start something new. 'The grass is always greener' kind of situation. When most games are 20-40 hours long each it's hard to finish one instead of it getting buried under other games. Long ago when I could only dream of playing games untranslated, and when English releases were few and far between, I enthusiastically consumed what I could. But now I feel so spoiled for choice that I can't focus because I can't get to everything I want to play fast enough. Anyone else experience this or manage to overcome it?

>>45229973
Eroge is saving my life every day, i can only live as long as i read eroge

>>45229984
Seems like you aren't reading what you really like or you just got tired from eroge. When i read something i truly enjoy there is literally nothing else in my head besides it and i will try to spend every possible minute of my free time into reading it

>>45229984
>Do you feel overwhelmed by your backlog?

Not really. I look at it more as a collection from which I can choose what to play. Or a collection of games I feel good about having. At this point it's unrealistic for me to think I'll actually play everything, do I don't expect to. That's how I managed to dodge your issue.

Same is true for normal games and their mods, for example. I really enjoyed Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom of example, but I dunno if I'll find another 150 hours to play either of them again. But I like knowing I got them backed up, along with a collection nice Linkle mods for BotW, so I can play as a cute girl next time, if I ever do. Some of her modded outfits are really nice.

does anyone have that graph of enjoyment for the chapters/routes in sakuuta

>>45229994
this but unironically
>>45229984
I think a lot about what I should read next since there's so many options but when I pick something I stick with it instead of juggling back and forth a bunch of games. No point rushing through everything I'm interested in, it's not like I have anything else to do with my time.

>>45230041
I could make a new one which would be my opinion and also objectively correct.

>>45229984
Just don't stress out about it.
It's not a race. It's not even a marathon. It's reading books.
If you read a book today and you enjoyed it you win.
If you didn't read today, or you didn't enjoy it, you didn't win, but there's always tomorrow.
Finishing VNs is fun and good and meaningful and worth doing and worth trying to do but it's really not worth worrying about.
If you really like a VN you'll read it over and over again, so whether you finish it today or next month or next year doesn't make a huge difference.

>>45229984
>>45230029
But I'll add that I do feel your issue about forgetting. I would like to 100% fully remember everything about games I loved, like Daitoshokan, Eustia, Dies Irae, Sakuuta etc., but ultimately, forgetting is natural. So I focus on enjoying things as I read/play them. I think "damn, this is really good and hopefully I'll remember a lot of it for a long time".

For Dies Irae, I played it in 2017 and even now I remember the best moments and enjoy seeing the guy in the last few threads post about them, for example.

Also I do feel like I got enough with my collection now. Which is what lead me to generally being content. I just need to do some finishing touches like getting nude mods for Resident Evil games and that's it. No obsessing about grabbing stuff, since I got enough.

>>45229973
There are a lot of people who years ago fought depression with dark souls; in my case, there is a movie that really marked me during my adolescence. Literally anything can save your life if you experience it at the right time

>>45230051
>Finishing VNs is fun and good
Not when you've dropped a bunch of time on a bad one like I have. I'll complain more in detail later but what a disappointment.

>>45230051
I read a LN today and enjoyed it, does that count?

>>45230041
It's pretty simple
Common(7)-Makoto(4)-Rin(5)-Rina(9)-Shizuku(7)-IV(10)-V(8)-VI(9)

>>45230068
>IV(10)
t. slutfag

>>45230071
You just have no balls

>>45230068
Pretty true. Common chapter 2 could be 8 or even 9. And Rina 10 then.

>>45230075
My balls are saved for my virgin princess.

>>45230068
yeah this seems right

>>45230076
I liked the route but Rina herself as a character was pretty boring not gonna lie, Yuumi carried it if anything

>>45230086
Yes, true. In this case 10 is for the whole route, not just Rina herself.

>>45230086
And her seiyuu is a bitch. She was the only one recasted right? Needs a slap.

>>45230041

>>45230110
>1ch>2ch
Something is fundamentally wrong

>>45230110
In what other eroges does this happen? that much of the story is shit but at the end it achieves kami status

>>45230123
The majority of my favorites have a huge gap of a pacing in the middle that draggs everything down but still probably nothing near the level of Pica/Olimpia kind of shit...

>>45230142
Pica Pica is huge for toki ch1, which itself is better than most uta chapters.

>>45229984
What i do is that i only complete one route(unless is ladder structure shit) and move on, by the time i completed a route i already got used to the setting and i rather start smething new since the new setting makes it more exciting

>>45230151
I actually managed to like quite a lot of Pica while rereading because i could grasp all of the foreshadowings that were hidden there but reading it the first time when you know nothing was pure torture

>>45230110
>>45230123
zypressen is for sure better than ch1 and imo better than ch2 though
I personally also feel like ch2 has a shadow cast over it because you have to go through pica pica and olympia right after which is a really long time to wait before it gets good again

also what is supposed to be between olympia and zypressen? clicking skip? lol

>>45228406
>If I don't know about the game at all, then I'm happy.
You're probably the type who buys "mystery meat" and hopes for the best.

>>45229984
You let yourself be afflicted with choice paralysis you end up being less productive than when you have less of a selection.

>>45230123
Muv Luv is the gold standard for that development.

>>45230260
stayed shit through to the end though

>>45230226
Unbelievable that you concluded that from what I wrote. You really deserve an award

>>45230270
Thanks, I appreciate the kind words.

>>45230275
you could try giving them out sometime, too

>>45230260
Will you really be able to enjoy its peak if you hated the rest though?
I went into it with 0 knowledge and expectations and i managed to enjoy it pretty progressively
Extra(7)-Unlim(7.5)-Alt first half(8)-and then it went just nonstop kino till the end

>>45230312
You must really love Lacrosse.

>>45230319
Not him but Lacrosse was good

>>45229984
I have maybe 1000+ VNs on my wishlist and wonder if I'll actually go through them in my lifetime or get bored of VNs or die before then but I just enjoy them one at a time. I get that whole excitement and distractibility but there's no point in wasting time worrying, just read and enjoy things as they come and reread your favorites when you feel like it. If you want to jump ship to a different VN then just do it and come back to the other one later or force yourself to only read one at a time (as long as you read stuff you like). I find it helpful to keep track of my reading time each day because then instead of a nebulous feeling of "oh no I have so many VNs left to read that are all so long" I have a concrete representation of my progress through my backlog (time spent reading). Having an objective measurement that keeps going up over time makes it feel more real and helps stick to one or two titles at a time instead of getting fomo about all the other titles I could be reading.

>>45230319
I just love punches that sends you into outer space and the several districts long limousines

>>45230295
You can keep several yourself.

Oh no oh no an autistic schizo with a desire to argue with everyone showed up

>>45230411
Who are you quoting?

I hate censored pubes

>>45230411
Almost all the sex scenes in eroge are fucking shit.

>>45230041
>does anyone have that graph of enjoyment for the chapters/routes in sakuuta
Here is my graph

>>45230492
Your fault for reading bad ones.

>>45230506
>futa
weak

>>45230506
You seem to have mistakenly made the futa part go down instead of way up.

>>45230506
I instantly cannot read eroge if it has futa desu

Isn't it kinda autistic to chart everything?

>>45230523
I love futa on girl, futa on girl is whatever.
>>45230557
This is the only eroge i charted, so dunno what you're talking about

>>45230557
Nah

>>45230334
>I find it helpful to keep track of my reading time each day because then instead of a nebulous feeling of "oh no I have so many VNs left to read that are all so long" I have a concrete representation of my progress through my backlog (time spent reading). Having an objective measurement that keeps going up over time makes it feel more real and helps stick to one or two titles at a time instead of getting fomo about all the other titles I could be reading.
This is a good idea. I like using Manictime tracker for this.

I read about 20 times faster than most of the rest of you - with the exception of a few bibliophiles. What is a true chore, taking up tens of hours for you, might very well only be a short eight to ten hours for me. Reading that fast - whether in English or Japanese - gives me a greatly different perspective than a lot of the others here.

The act of reading in itself can bring me something close to sexual pleasure if what I'm reading is interesting. The reason I like chuunige is because to me, the stimulation from a good chuunige is actually better than sex. There is always something going on and that something is usually meant to shake up the emotions or engage the intellect. Since, for me, reading something like this really does give me so much pleasure, I can honestly say that concerns about length don't bother me at all, lol.

Those were fun the first 30 times

>I love futa on girl, futa on girl is whatever
What did he mean by this?

>>45231160
pretty sure that last one was supposed to be "futa on male"

>>45231160
this >>45231194

>>45229984
Not in the slightest. A backlog means there's good VNs you haven't read yet, it's not a chore to get through just so you can say you're caught up, it's a pleasure to be savoured. If you're not enjoying a VN, just move to the next one. The whole point is to die before you finsih your backlog.

Can someone share Navel Plus? Only copy I can find online doesn't have voices

>>45231767
>Only copy I can find online doesn't have voices

How does that work? Why would someone make a RIP?

>>45229984
Nigga just buy multiple displays like nigga move your neck after each text box.

This guy lmao

>>45231773
For maximum efficiency listen to the voices in one while reading unvoiced lines in the other.

>>45231909
>>45231947
This terribly painful. The author should be sued for this shit.

>>45231947
haha..

>>45231947

>>45231947
Someone has turned 青春禁止令 ( https://youtu.be/E0lqQy-PP8s ) lyrics into a protagonist?

>>45231773
>>45232039
Personally, I have a three way setup going on. I've got one VN on auto mode in each ear (I use TTS to make them fully voiced including narration) and one that I read on mute.

Most right-winged untranslated visual novel?

>>45232616
https://vndb.org/v43047

half a year since sakutoki and i still don't understand what the thematic implication is when Naoya gets a voice. I don't think it signifies moving on or whatever. Naoya is a stoic character. He himself doesn't ever change, he changes the people around him.

>>45229984
I find myself jumping from title to title, until I find something that really engrosses me. A lot of eroge aren't bad outright, but they fail to be engaging. They very rarely give you something to look forward to. Usually the selling point is the heroines, but it especially sucks when the characters are likable but the writer is awful at making them shine. And bad pacing doesn't help either.

Odd, the common route ended up being only 7h45m, it felt at least 12 hours long.

>>45231947
I thought people here were like that?

>>45233364

>>45233453
Do not post with this shit kerning.

>>45231767
https://mega.nz/file/JodiwYYZ#C-tso-UYH5M4fcRIKQD-Wz06setm0GYmFSX19JXoio8
This patch says it fixes the voice issue and some other bug so maybe try it out

https://twitter.com/auaunovelge/status/1724004259044454444
Deep

>>45231947
>last line
plotbros...! we're winning!

>>45231947
eroge bro....

>>45232616
Bump.

>>45234958
https://vndb.org/v13566

>>45234973
But I was being unironic in my request.

>>45235014
https://vndb.org/v24000 this unironically

>>45231947
Can't relate because I can't even find real women attractive anymore.

Most left wing VN?

>>45235158
Nukitashi 2

>>45235172

>>45235190
VN refuting this viewpoint?

>>45235265
Anything by Masada

>>45235158
https://vndb.org/p82

>>45232616
Dasaku

>>45235354
I feel like Umineko does have a right wing reading and interpretation though.

Most centrist visual novel?

>>45235368
Wrong.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKSxdCg4_7o

>>45235417

>>45235369
You are just stupid then, it's very left leaning

>>45235431
How so? I enjoyed it while not being the typical definition of left leaning.

>>45235190
Woah! the cringe is strong with this one.

What is the most 4chan-centric visual novel?

>>45235501
Something mostly consisting of epic memes and a couple of insightful thoughts thrown in for good measure? Subahibi?

>>45235501
Katawa Syouzyo

>>45235427
how do you know what I picked?

>>45235458
Probably because you were too stupid to understand what it was about
The main heroine being trans and the whole critique of capitalism with the true motive and the whole furniture thing didn't tip you off?

>>45235501

>>45235501
https://vndb.org/v13871

>>45235458
It's possible to enjoy an author's work without agreeing with their politics, you know.

>>45235556
A writer's politics are always going to leak into their work.

>>45235566
Sure, the question is whether that ruins it for you.

Am i the only one here who has no idea what is the difference between the right left center and all that shit?

>>45235625
Your life is definitely better this way

>>45235625
That's really weird to me, I thought that was basic knowledge they taught in all schools

>>45235671
We didn't have politics in my shithole

>>45235625
Suffice it to say that it's based on American politics and is hideously off-topic, and almost assuredly posted as bait.

The fag asking for "most X VN?" isn't interested in playing any VNs, stop replying to him

>>45235741
kek, bro unironically thinks politics only exists in america