/jp/ - Otaku Culture

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKSxdCg4_7o
So is this game and its sequel actually good or are they just memes?

JAV

I was trying to read Seigi ranman, but I ran into the error I regularly run into with cube games where the game doesn't open properly and I only hear audio. Is there a way to fix this?

>>45185190
reset window position

>>45185192
what's the consensus with that shit at the end? Is it worth reading or not?

>>45185192
>NBR
Dropped

>>45185198
It's fun if you'll manage to adapt to third-person narration in eroscenes and a lot of weird writing there.

>>45185195
And how would I do that exactly?

I wonder if there is any way to filter a youtube channel

>>45185246
There is, on youtube. I don't think there's any way to filter someone posting youtube links without filtering all of them.

>>45185257
Sad, I guess I'll just have to use the classic
>hide
>apply
Thanks anyway bro

>>45185226
https://www.lifewire.com/how-to-move-a-window-that-is-off-screen-4772840

>>45185205
That sounds cool. I'm in.

>>45185179
Reading this in english because FUCK japanese. Ginka is cute.

>>45185306
>FUCK japanese
You will never be able to.

>>45185313
First post and that one share IP, js

>>45185246
Do you mean like this
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/blocktube/

I wish vndb staff wasn't retarded and hadn't taken so fucking long to add playtime votes.

>>45185696
I just record entire playthroughs with default text speed settings (unless it wasnt tested by the developers like Daitoshokan no hitsujikai's protagonist lines being too fast)

>All the adult women in Palette's novels have no routes

At least Yuuri's voice is pretty sultry.

>>45185743
What do you mean, are you submitting these times to vndb? If so, doing god's work. Seems like a pain in the ass though, how do you deal with choices?

>>45185696
Those playtimes are retarded and are full of speedreaders

>>45185773
Mister kew, kill yourself

>>45185773
Then don't look at those times?
They are still a myriad times more useful than egs at least because a lot of people actually use time trackers

>>45185796

>>45185773
They're still more reliable than EGS times when there's enough voters.

>>45185808
He's right.

>>45185773
Still better than EGS full of voice-skip speedreaders

Maeda-bros, our reaction?

(AstralAir and Charlotte spoilers, I guess.)

>>45185925
It's 2023, there are no Maeda bros anymore.

>>45185931
Heaven Burns Red was his glorious return, no?

>>45185937
Yeah, as much as Priconne was Jackson's return.

>>45185808
You will never gonna be japanese.

MIN POST E VIKTIG MIN POST TIL KONGER

Reading the Tsubaki Renka FD for Mekuiro now. (I don't like to read FDs immediately after the main work for whatever reason.) I appreciate that they are introducing a tag-team tournament in the FD. A lot of the time, FDs don't really have much new story and are just more イチャイチャ between the protagonist and the FD's heroine. This way, it's more fun to read.
Also, the setup for the omake harem H-scenes is stupid enough to be funny, which I also appreciate.

Just got Semiramis off DMM, stripped the exe as usual, but it doesn't seem to do anything. No terminal output (WINE), either. Any ideas?

>>45187214
Dunno, I'm on Windows.

>>45187223
Do you mean to say the result of the python script runs on Windows? Because the OS shouldn't matter.

>>45187352
The script is the simplest thing ever that just takes out the SoftDenchi header, so the result should be clean exe. You can do it by hand even, with a lot of scrolling, I guess.

So if that went fine, the game itself just doesn't run well with Wine?

>>45185925
Somehow I never made the connection because I erased Charlotte from my mind.

Shirone a whore

white haired girls are the one that statically betray the less

>>45188439
context?

>>45188618
This, that's why they are superior.

Do I switch between main game and FD for each heroine or play all heroine routes then move on to the FD?

>>45188743
I have done both and... its the same, if anything 1 heroine>FD is better since your memories are fresher

>>45188743
It may depend on the game but if there is at least some kind of slightly elaborate plot or multiroute mystery then FD almost always involves grave spoilers for all routes. There are sometimes meaningful spoilers even in the OP movie of the FD.
Finishing all routes before starting the FD is probably safer in general.

>>45188953
>memories are fresher
Not really.

>>45187389
I know. It spits out something of plausible size that looks like an exe. Usually I'd say it's WINE, but no output at all is very suspicious, and there's just been an update to SD. So I thought, maybe they've started encrypting stuff again.
Anyway, confirmation that the script still works on Semiramis hot off the servers would be appreciated.
Meanwhile I'll break out the hex editor, maybe it latched on to the wrong signature. That has happened once before.

>>45189270
Ok, it cuts out the piggybacked exe correctly. So it's either a variant where that won't run on its own or the engine won't even launch on Linux (not even Malie is that bad).

So, let me rephrase the question. Does anyone have any pointers for running Semiramis or other Yuka System games on Linux?

this dude could have been the protagonist of a chuunige

Seeing Yureaka's combat through the lens of a fighting game is making it a lot more fun to read. Look at this cute spammer gyaru

>>45189493
Same behavior on a Win7 VM. The cut-out exe doesn't run on its own. The main.bin it dumps when I log in is identical, so no luck there, either. If I actually run it as intended, it works. So SD does more here than just wrap it. Maybe it's just the old partially encrypted exe thing. Anyone here remember how to get past that?

>>45189698
Is there any particular reason why you need to get it running off the DL version instead of downloading an iso?

>>45189738
My OCD. And I like buying stuff on there, much quicker than finding a DDL. If this is a one-off, that's one thing, but the thought they might've changed SD to actually do something instead of providing me with clean, DRM-free, pre-patched copies to archive is just too sad for words.

>>45189855
i always knew that buyfags are schizos

>>45189855
If that's not the only thing you have bought then you could probably download something else again and check if it still works. If they changed something in a way that affected such an old game then it should've affected a lot of other games too.

I played this creature's game, but man it is not very good. She's really good, basically perfect, but goddamn after finishing her route I'm really tempted to just stop playing because I don't care at all about the other heroines. I wish it was longer just to enjoy her longer, but on the other hand I guess it wasn't a horrible use of 3 hours.

>>45189950
being a kitsunefag is suffering...

>>45189950
The whole thing's only like 10 hours max if you go by VNDB, might as well just finish it.

>>45189855
Try this Semiramis.exe: https://files.catbox.moe/abmj93.7z
Maybe it will work. Or maybe it will provide hints why it's not working.

I extracted it from the Update.ykc in Semiramis_update140819.zip at https://www.caramel-box.com/products/semiramis/download.php using https://ide.kaitai.io/ and format description from https://github.com/AtomCrafty/yukatool/blob/master/doc/ykc_format.ksy .

How do we deal with people inflating their vndb votes with shortge?

>>45190336
We stop caring about how people deal with their vn lists.

>>45190342
wtf?

Reminder that any poster using the "ge" suffix with an English word is almost certainly posting bait.

>>45190357
All the japs who say scenarioge must also be baiting according to your EOP logic.

For me it's gameplayge.

I will never not use cheat engine when faced with gameplay

>>45190581
you got any thoughts on the astronauts:sirius line of gameges? never tried any of theirs before

>>45190603
The proper term is gege.

Speaking of A:S, very curious about the 痴漢shit of them, I would greatly appreciate if anyone played them and can share their impressions

>>45190581
You still playing this thing?

>>45189855
Just tried to run the exe in Bottles, it runs as intended. The game is on my Windows partition too, so it's not even properly installed in my Wine prefix. Mine is taken from Nyaa with the 1.03 patch from the official website.

Speaking of Semiramis, thanks the anon who was blogposting it here. It was a fun read, but I feel like there's a lot of wasted potential. I guess I had false expectations because it gave be the SubaHibi vibes in the beginning, but ended up being just a SoL with Ami's keikakus to spice things up. I'm a sucker for mystery and suspense, and there was barely any.
I hope I'll like Alicematic better.

>>45191563
Yeah, one of my complaints with Semiramis was that the reveal of the voices was kinda lame. I was hoping for something more mysterious or even fantasy-ish.

>>45191563
Don't set very high expectations for the Alicematic plot, it's much more of Hanachirasu with Utena vibes rather than mystery

>>45190736
played 1, currently on 2
it's ridiculously fun: the gameplay is satisfying, the art is beautiful, the soundtrack goes HARD... basically everything I could ask for
https://streamable.com/n3fwzb
it manages to feel epic while not fully taking itself seriously, reminds me of Nukitashi in this sense (the puns and overall writing too)

>>45191731
Why do they make nipples so disgusting?

>>45190603
Not him, but Demonion 2 was their peak if we only talk about the gameplay. After that they started making them more and more simple, making their latest releases feel like shitty mobile games. The chikan games are fun, but they're still using the same formula from the Saishuu Chikan Densha days. M&M's art also seems to be getting worse with each new release, which is reflected in their inability to draw more than one body type and pubes, which sucks but it's still good enough for me to keep coming back.
I'd say their peak overall was Saint Estella just because of how hot it was and how cool the OP song was.
>>45190736
They're a fun ride. Some characters are surprisingly likable and sometimes the plot goes pretty hard for a nukige. I'd definitely recommend giving it a try.
>>45191785
You don't know what disgusting nipples are.

Did you guys watch this week's 16bit Sensation?

>>45192804
I'll do it later.

>>45192804
I'll binge watch it when it comes out fully or maybe even when BDs come.

>>45189640
fuck, now I'm sad Jackson never wrote chuunige

>>45185754
No im pretty sure they wouldnt accept it anyway because for some novels where the auto read settings are too fast for non voiced parts I have to manually adjust the settings. And im pretty sure the userbase over there wouldnt know how to stream a 3~5 gb video file over a torrent.

I simply edit the video when the recording gets stuck before a choice/before nakadashi or cumming down someone's throat.

>>45192804
Of course.

>>45192804
Its shit, so no. The blatant yuzuslop and purpleslop shilling was episode 1 drop-worthy.

>>45193194
What? You wanted it to shill Geminism and go on hard autism over eroge and /g/?

>>45190599
Same. I felt like a genius the first time I remembered that I could use CE on VNs with gameplay.

Is there a recommended route order for Seigiranman or is it just standard moege read the routes of the girls that interest you?
There's no professor plum mini-route or bonus route, right?

>>45192804
This is a minor point, but the show annoys me because the whole premise is that MC is fed up with colouring in the backs of background characters for shitty no-budget nukige and all I can think of is "what zero-budget no-creativity nukige have background characters?"
They just use generic backgrounds from a library, i.e. downtown street. They don't have background characters, let alone anyone whose full-time job is coloring them in.

>>45193387
Yeah, I thought the same. Even serious scenario focused games often don't have mob characters. I wish this wasn't so common because it makes the game feel empty as hell, just adding a few generic models to the backgrounds goes a long way in making the game feel more alive.

>>45193387
>>45193409
There are several CG backgrounds in eroge with badly drawn mobs. Not always, but not exactly infrequent either.

>>45193422
Show me one in an appetite or miel game, I'll wait.

>>45193427
Why those two in particular? I was going to mention Mashiro Iro Symphony.

recommend me some funny eroge, finished Akagoei and need something similar, or maybe not similar but as funny

>>45192804
>modern anime
shan't

>>45193979
Comic Party more your speed?

>>45193903
senshinkan sol pretty funny

>>45194049
is it really worth to read for sol though?

>>45194095
No

>>45194095
IIRC The very first few chapter senshinkan is sol only with a few chuuni action. After you enter the route it's doesn't have too much sol. Maybe you can try reading the first few chapter.

>>45193903
Sorechiru, Kazokei.

>>45193222
How do you use it?

>>45193903
Ruitomo

>>45194095
that shit is literally paced like persona but instead of 3h long JRPG dungeons you get Masada stroking his chuuni dick in your face for even longer

>>45194041
I really don't understand how someone that has been watching anime for at least 10 years can fathom modern ones, not to mention they are aimed at zoomers now, so im not the target audience anymore.
SnK ended last week and normalfags(those who anime are made for now) praised that shit, so you can't help but think there is plenty of room for modern anime to get even worse.

>>45194731
while I get shit like Undead Girl Murder Farce once in a while I will continue to watch anime

why do so many nu-JOPs fall for the prose meme?

Speaking about anime, i wonder why they stopped making those vn adaptations of animes recently
There has barely been 1 new title per year

>>45194784
cartel legacy, pseudo-intellectual parrots, never read book
>>45194836
ln and mobage popularity

>>45194836
Anime is now a manga/light novel/gacha advertising medium

>>45194836
because VNs are a dead medium and all the coping of people in these threads isn't gonna change the fact that the people with money know that.
If you adapt a manga or LN you can get big fucking sales for the original work, maybe like 1k people are going to buy a VN.

>>45194836
Not true. There are at least 4 of them in this year.

>>45194836
>>45195009
Are any of these games good even? I never see anyone talk about them. I do recall someone saying the Guilty Crown VN made by Nitroplus was better than the anime, but that's not exactly a big achievement.

>>45194731
Let me guess. You shat on anime all the way back when Green Green was the hot new thing.

>>45195037
Oreimo since it gave every girl a route instead of hard locking to incest.

>>45195009
The sensei better have a route in Oregairu.

>>45194843
>>45194864
>>45194967
I really can't comprehend that ln popularity in japan, there are like thousands of them, who are those people who buy all that?
Aren't zoomers supposed to have fucked up attention span to read text-only stuff these days?
I get the popularity of manga and gacha because there are visuals but ln? In this day and age?

>>45195087
Why would you not want incest?

>>45195009
>all-ages-galore for romance stories
oh my...

>>45195096
VNs are not popular anymore not because they're text based, but because they're computer games. Japan is full of kids who have pretty much never used a computer in their lives and don't even know that you can copy and paste.

>>45195113
Yes that's why 90% of kids sit in mobages these days, like i can't see any kid going his way buying a ln over manga or some game

It's Japan is a primitive shithole hours again I see.

>>45195096
>Aren't zoomers supposed to have fucked up attention span to read text-only stuff these days?
LNs are dropping faster in sales than VNs nowadays, what saves them is the triangular trade situation where all they compliment each other.

>>45195132
How is it even possible to get that conclusion out of the posts above? If anything, if lns are still popular in Japan it means they still somehow managed to preserve their attention span despite all odds.

>>45195179
Someone will definitely construe that as
>they still read books on paper instead of epubs on tablets? Wow.
>hehehe fax lmao

How many of these successful LNs are not print editions of template WNs, though?

>>45195037
I remember liking 涼宮ハルヒの追想 and 境界線上のホライゾン PORTABLE way back when.

>>45195145
lol, ln needs to sell like 3k to be a succes, you don't know what are you talking about

>>45195388
like half of all ln's have nothing to do with wn's

>>45195400
Nice medium bro

>>45195444
>mfw the one LN series I'm reading is bucking that trend.
It's Roshidere.

>>45195444
that's about physical books only, no?

>>45193309
You can read the routes in any order you want. Maybe do Fujika before Hikari? Doesn't really matter.
In terms of bonus or mini-routes, once you complete all four routes, a Momoyo route opens.

>>45195457
I read yesterday that it has 7 volumes and still no confession, so i should ask, how can you like stuff like that when you have moege for light hearted romance stories where they actually confess, kiss, have sex and if you get lucky marriage and have a proper conclusion?

>>45195600
I like the lite keikaku-doori the MC does. Reminds me of Youjitsu which I also enjoyed.

>>45195390
>境界線上のホライゾン
Have you read the LNs? I probably will next year

>>45195707
What a fag

>>45195707
Cats are better

>>45195707
>>45196209
No, ferrets are. In fact, they're wholly underrepresented in eroge. Only one I can think of was Triangle Heart (Yuno Scrya).

Foxes are better

Monkeys are the best. There needs to be more eroge and video games with monkeys.

>>45196423
>monkeys
Here
https://vndb.org/v31262

>>45196423
https://hitomi.la/reader/1469003.html#64

>>45196423
This but apes. Specifically orangutans.

>>45196423
>>45196521

>>45194967
it doesn't look dead

>>45196583
You posted this on the 16bit thread.

>>45196423
https://vndb.org/c77103

>>45196583
Devs only need to release a COP version if they want to make a profit; those guys are the ones who really keep the medium alive after all

>>45196583
Reviews on Steam (16,526 total):
15,024 simplified chinese
1,475 japanese

>>45196653
We complain about china but they are the ones who keep eroge alive...

>>45195037
hamster game is pretty endearing

>>45196583
>>45196653
Honestly between americans and chinese i rather japan focus on china, at worst they only demand their version to be censored, unlike certain country that wants the source altered as well.
Grim

>>45196583
>400.000
why do euros use this fuck retarded notation?

>>45196583
anon that game is 8 fucking years old, 400k is terrible.

>>45196813
>400k is terrible.
Most VNs never achieved that number even in 8 years

>>45196783
To Floyd you.

>>45196690
Unlike the rest of the world, Chinese zoomers does know how to use a computer. This medium probably would be dead now if it translated everything to English instead since westoids have no respect for the medium itself.

>>45196813
VNs aren't exactly AAA smash hits.

guys, english tls aren't going anywhere because localizer companies need en tls to spread their woke agenda through them
they normalize femoid slurs like manspreading, mansplaining and incel
they literally brainwash eop coomers lmao

>>45196872
>>>/pol/

>>45196718
What if they focus on Russia?

>>45197007
Why would they focus on monkeys who don't pay?

>>45197015
Because they're one of the only few countries that don't outright demonize them in their pop media. Silver haired sexy bombshells is basically a compliment compared to how the West portrays them.

>>45196718
At worst companies will try to focus on China and you will get only all age releases, even in Japan. Look at how it worked with Yuzusoft sour and Harukaze's Marco

Chink bros i kneel...

anyone know a good nukige to explode my dick to? i recently enjoyed role players

>>45197167
I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be only boys', not girls'. At least that's what I heard.

>>45197199
Role players 2
Harem x shangri-la
or Hasshaku

>>45197221
>hasshaku
the faces are extremely off-putting but i might check out harem x shangri-la

>>45197199
Oppai maids?

Wow this dude is literally a living scum

Anyone who just can't into nukige? Everytime I heard the 40-50yo baba trying to voice an highschooler, it kills it for me, at least in moege it's mostly young seiyuus, even if it's not, her voice is good enough to not let me guess from the first sentence that it's a baba behind.

>>45197199
it's hard to top role players....

>>45197199
https://vndb.org/v3896 beautifully animated scenes, god tier art, only downside is that you can't really read at a high pace
https://vndb.org/v30998 simple setting but awesome art and ultra erotic girls

>>45197279
>https://vndb.org/v3896
Too bad the nipples ruined it

>>45197279
man the scenes with the mom were good

>>45197271
I'm homo so I don't get them either.

>>45197271
>it's mostly young seiyuus
Bro the majority of good seiyus are already in their 50s, the new young ones you can barely count on your fingers

>>45197239
Sukebei elf is also pretty good.

>>45197372
this looks horrible

>>45197372
Makes me wanna look at men after seeing this.

Elfriends...

>>45197372
I wish the epilogues had more oyakodon...

>>45197279
>https://vndb.org/v3896
It's amazing how this company has done nothing but milk the ever living life out of this to this day. Not even TM went this hard at squeezing Fate.

>>45197279
sisters is meh. only the mom scenes were good and she fucks off early in the game.

>>45197445
indeed

>>45197279
>https://vndb.org/v30998
look ai

>>45197391
Here is a cute man for you.

>>45197334
Which one would you consider good, in their 50 and still active? Without saying Kazane nor Kamishiro Misaki

>>45197473
Nah, the 3P with the siblings is peak ero.

>>45197334
The good ones right now like Kanako, Taichi You or Akabane Kyouko are relatively young though

>>45197515
yes this is much better

i hope haruna ren is still single

>>45197495
Amazing that all this shit is canon

>>45197445
Mega milkers of https://vndb.org/v15288
http://www.hs-crowd.co.jp/clip-craft/top/

>>45197033
Parquet was focused both on america and china, it released with an english translation and was released on the biggest western store

>>45198102
>it released with an english translation
Didn't it come out in Japan a few months prior?

Still not reading light novel SHIT. Visual novels and eroge 4 life.

>>45198193
>dedicated to the losing team.
There's always going to be fanatics everywhere you go.

>>45198193
>medium soon to be all ages slop 4 lyfe fr
ok buddy

>>45198193
LNs are easily better in terms of writing quality though

>>45198327
There are constantly talks about everything going all-ages for the last 20 years, since CLANNAD going all-ages, and yet eroge keep coming out.

>>45198345
Show me a ln that would have a writing quality similar to that of romeo or jackson and i will go and read it right now

ok LNfags, tell me your top 5

>>45198345
Which LNs can rival chuunige? If not, it's total dogshit

I read both LN's and VN's. You tribalistic niggers can throw feces at each other for all I care.

>>45198365
Karabe, Mareni... wait

>>45198365
nisio is probably the only worthwhile writer there

>>45197616
Akabane Kyoko will not work eroge for long, her anime career gonna be the main focus so enjoy her while you can.

>>45198365
>Show me a ln that would have a writing quality similar to that of romeo
bro? your jinrui?

>>45198383
>>45198414
Ok i'm noting this out: the best ln writers are... the eroge writers (+nisio as a bonus)

>>45198372

LN: WORDS WORDS WORDS
VN: Full package of writing, high quality and quantity visuals, presentation, voices and sometimes even gameplay.

VNs are superior and will never be displaced by the inferior medium, simple as.

>>45198372
9s, Kyoukai Senjou no Horizon, Wizard's Brain, Boogiepop, D-Crackers, Miss Fabre, Bara no Maria are all chuuni as fuck.

No but seriously asking, are there any LNs that are really worth reading...other than 空ろの箱と零のマリア or 86?

At least Manga gas some actual gems like Inio Asano who do something you won't find anywhere else

>>45198468
Boogiepop or any Kadono series not named Shizuru series.

>>45198462
Kino no Tabi has chuuni moments too.

>>45198365
Hisamitsu Ueo, Mizuhito Akiyama

>>45198365
Hiroshi Ishikawa, Mamizu

>>45198543
>Hisamitsu Ueo
I have heard of Murasakiiro no Qualia manga being good but the ln has only 3 chapters, is there even anything to read?
>Mizuhito Akiyama
I have seen people saying that vn version of Ufo is really good https://vndb.org/v4694, is there any difference between the ln version?

>>45198468
I have a few in my backlog like 砂糖菓子の弾丸は撃ちぬけない and イリヤの空、ufoの夏. Maria's good but the last volume felt a bit underwhelming. Out f the few I've read とある飛空士への追憶 is probably the best for me.

>>45198620
Read Akuma no Mikata. Didn't read vn version, sorry.

Fucking faggots are really going to make me read LNs... but to be honest, opinions of the anons here give me a lot more confidence

>>45198685
Just don't read modern isekai shit and you will be alright.

>>45198468
>86
Literally written by a woman with american-like views of the world. aka total dogshit

>>45198829
She built her whole life playing kino like FFT so she's cool in my book. We're not all completely "based."

>>45198847
>She built her whole life playing kino like FFT
wtf /mygirl/, reading 86 now

>>45198656
Why do lns keep using furigana for the most obvious words? It's literally nothing but a distraction

>>45198883
It's literally YA fiction.

>>45198918
Then why it's so arbitrary? At least manga is consistent with using it for every word
I think the chances for a kid to not know 解釈 or 認識 is much higher than 嘘 or 誰...

>>45198685
You dont really want to read "shit" that gets dragged on and on for years because of money with no end on sight, right?

>>45198685
I just finished reading the second volume of hyouka with the jp audiobook and it was quite nice ngl

>>45198983
Is Hyouka even categorized as a LN? I thought it wasn't published by a LN publisher and wasn't following traditional ranobe-standards in terms of illustrations, etc.

>>45198982
no, I'm going to read shit that's already finished

>>45197522
Yukana (C.C's VA) is 48 and still active, still very taleneted. Also I saw her this year and IMO she looks amazing. If you told me she was 32 I would believe you. I would give me left nut to spend an evening with her

>>45198468
りゅうおうのおしごと!
俺の妹が最高のオカズだった
冴えない彼女の育てかた
人類は衰退しました
半分の月がのぼる空
basically anything written by Isin, Ueo, Akiyama, Kadono, Minoru Kawakami and Narita.
Dクラッカーズ
コップクラフト

Started reading pic related as I wanted something spooky for halloween and had problems with other VNs I tired. It's pretty neato, there's no point in reading it post-nut but the pacing keeps you engaged assuming you dont come in 1 scene, fun spooky rural shit, I'm sure there are better examples. Shuri best girl. Makes me want to try Kyokugen Chikan Tokuiten due to liking nukige with some pacing between the scenes

>>45199533
eerie, I was literally looking at this game like 2 seconds ago and wondering if it was any good

>>45199533
I'm kinda sad that besides the main heroines, the rest were just there only to pad out the roster. I liked Emma.

>>45198620
>I have heard of Murasakiiro no Qualia manga being good but the ln has only 3 chapters, is there even anything to read?
The first chapter is 1/3 of the book and the second is 2/3. The final chapter is just a short epilogue. It's a regular length ln, it just has long chapters.
>I have seen people saying that vn version of Ufo is really good https://vndb.org/v4694, is there any difference between the ln version?
It's been a while since I read it but I'm pretty sure the vn version is missing the 番外編. It has a lot of art though so a combination of the vn and the ln might be the best way to read it.

>>45199394
>りゅうおうのおしごと!
I hate all those "ecchi" lns or mangas so much it's insane
If you are going to keep baiting me without delivering anything you better just fuck off from the start

>>45199533
Still have to finish this, kinda surprised that 10 or so hours in there are no more scenes with Kagome other than the prologue one, was expecting her to seduce you at every opportunity to betray your partners. And this is after selecting the choices to get into her ending so obviously there is no branching out yet.

>>45199548
I heard about the news from a bugbug.news so you may have heard about from the same place. Overall i'd say its worth a shot but there are better games you probably could be playing, there are certainly worse games. As a side note I wish I knew where to look for just interviews/news in JP for eroge without so much focus on nukige like bugbug has, but their interview with sei shojou was very interesting.
>>45199703
Please dont let it all be the sister and Tsubame, they are the worst girls. Emma is a solid pick.
>>45199852
That is very surprising, I too expected more scenes with her. I'm only at Tsubame's first solo scene so still a long way to go in the game

>>45199394
>俺の妹が最高のオカズだった
sounds kino

>>45198950
Read more manga. A lot of them suffer from the same erratic furigana placement.

>>45201279
no manga sucks

>>45201290
You are beyond help.

>>45200129
>Emma is a solid pick.
Why? Because she's an uppity haafu skank?

>soulful bad end tip corner feat. Peruru and a rotating guest character
I was already in love with this game, and it just keeps getting better.

cute pose

So I'm reading Chiwa-chan's route and damn, what a terrible reaction by Taiga to her confession. Luckily it was solved relatively fast. Now it seems the actual drama will be something with her father.

>>45201367
Yeah, that reaction is one of the most "die fuckin' faggot!" moments in eroge history

>>45196813
Bro, a VN reaching 5 digits makes it a runaway smash success, 99% of them don't even manage that.

>>45198883
>>45198918
I've seen 18+ eroge with full furigana.
It's kind of distracting, honestly, but I wish I'd known about it when I was starting out.

>>45202225
i like when they do this

>>45202483
would be nice to have on a hotkey or something that you could toggle on for irregular readings or ones you forgot. Definitely wouldn't want to have it on all the time though

>>45202225
They know that eroge readers have no 学

>>45194784
What does this even mean

Small Asuka.

>>45203451
when they discuss a game and all they can talk about is muh prose

>>45203885
Show me any review where all they would talk about is prose and ignore everything else

>>45204207
not that anon, but the older I get the more i realize i do not actually care that much about plot, characters, etc. all something needs is a really good sentence for me to enjoy it. generally this applies more to books than to eroge, but some eroge writers have really cool turns of phrases.

>>45203733
Cute chibi

>>45204237
Good characters are important for that prose to have an effect because often it feels like the writer is using the characters just to talk with himself which is pretty pretentious

>>45204207
almost any review of oretsuba, for example

>>45194784
>implying they know Japanese
Westoids were always permanent dekinais who only knows how to sniff their own farts. Just by having wh*ite blood is a permanent debuff in knowing the language.

>>45204366
Well there is pretty much no plot in oretsuba so there isn't much to talk about outside of it
The reviews on vndb are pretty accurate in calling it a comedy charage with the main focus on the witty prose

>>45204366
In oretsuba practically every character has a different speech pattern, how is that shit not impressive?

In my experience, the ones who complain the most against assessing the writing of something are dekinai, because you have to have a certain level in a language to identify when something is well written or not

What's the best Whirlpool game? I've wanted to try them out since their art always looks hot but idk which one of them to play.

>>45205572
It's undeniable that there are a ton of super annoying gaijins who pretend to be the PhD of philosophy and look for the deep meaning in every single word (even though they haven't read anything outside of eroge in their lives) but the people who get triggered by a single mention of prose or writing because "it's just porn" are just as equally annoying

>>45205572
this is true, but it's also true that many nu-JOPs try to talk about prose even when they clearly have no idea what they're talking about (some are even hookcucks)

>>45205648
What they both have in common is they don't actually enjoy eroge.

>>45205572
Feels good to be a moebuta that just enjoy cute slice of life stuff

>>45205697
And being the one that's actively catered to boot.

Feels good to be a moebuta because I can't read plotge.

>>45205713
moechads can read it fine, they're just not interested in cuckge

>>45205572
There's nothing wrong about assessing the language if you're actually fluent, yes. It's just annoying how so many low level "JOPs" in the West talk nothing but bullshit when they "assess" eroge for its prose or some sort of abstract symbolism. I know JOPs (MTLers) who shit on JP for being more boring than English because of the prose and internalized false superiority. Dunning Kruger is more common with westoids, especially if their first language is English for some fucking reason.

>>45205865
>I know JOPs (MTLers)
That's your fault for hanging out with them

>>45205945
bro... look where you're posting...

>>45205958
I'm not posting on /vn/?

>>45205958
The point of imageboard is that you don't know anyone who is there

>>45205865
>Dunning Kruger is more common with westoids, especially if their first language is English for some fucking reason.
SEA's are afflicted by this disease even worse, specifically Flips.

>>45205945
Fortunately I ghosted all of them and now hang out with you fags to talk about porn powerpoints.

If you actually know Japanese, you'd talk about eroge on 2ch/5ch.

>>45206113
Flips are just hispanics who worship the westoid ways in disguise. They're not real asians. Most of them I met essentially act white and think they're hot shit, especially the girls.

>>45205572
>In my experience, the ones who complain the most against assessing the writing of something are dekinai, because you have to have a certain level in a language to identify when something is well written or not

Most people can't assess prose and writing in their native language, so a bunch of self-proclaimed wannabe jops with 10 titles finished but parroting ecelebs opinion about writing and prose is just funny at best.
You ain't fooling anyone here, buddy.

>>45206146
They literally won't allow me to post there

>>45206120
Good decision. There are some retards and schizo's here, but also a lot of really cool people. Time goes by and these are still the threads I enjoy the most on this shit

>>45206146
we already talked about that a few threads ago

>>45206146
No, not really.
See >>45206190

>>45206166
>>Most people can't assess prose and writing in their native language
We are not all amerimutts, pal. Some of us live in countries with good educational systems

>>45205958
People actually believe retards who "forget to hide the MTL from their screencaps" are actually using MTL and are not retards that are just bored and want to bait people here.

>>45206197
>Europe
>Canada
>Australia
>Good educational Systems
These places are actively dumbing themselves down to accommodate brownies.

>>45206197
Sure thing, sweetheart.

very nice eroge discussion

>>45206148
>Most of them I met essentially act white
I guess them being one of the biggest weebs on the planet does count as White behavior.

This general is only fast when talking about anything but eroge

Didn't expect people here out of all places to be white genocide enablers desu.

>>45206247
most of us are SEAchads or slavchads. whitoids are not welcome here.

>>45206268
Don't lump me together with you, SEA monkey.

>>45206268
>slavchads
Slavs are white bro, niggers trying to prove you otherwise just so you joined their white genocide.

>>45206247
Whites are the first in the line to blame when it comes to the eroge decline so it's pretty reasonable reation in the thread about eroge

General will be slow tomorrow after a bunch of posts get deleted out of nowhere and anons suspiciously stop posting...

>>45206268
Trying to buddy up to Boris won't get you to sleep with Anastasia, Ernesto.

>>45206293
>Whites are the first in the line to blame when it comes to the eroge decline
How so?

>>45206309
Why do you think the lolige decline lines up so suspiciously well with the increase of eroge popularity on steam?

>>45206328
You realize most of companies making nukige and lolige don't give a crap about steam or western releases?

>deleted

>>45206309
They have been messing with japan laws for years, eroge is not the only thing declining, the fact japan had to up their nationa age of consent to 16 despite no one giving a fuck should tell you everything

>>45206350
Japan slowly becoming woke, but that's not whitoids fault, niggers pushing their woke agenda so you should blame them

>>45206334
Japanese and American media cultures are very tightly related, it's inevitable that they will be affected by each other
Just 10 years ago it would have never even come to mind to a Japanese person that you could go to jail for a drawing, now you can see the memes about jail when it comes to any loli characters that they inherited from Americans literally everywhere around the media

This all never would've happened if Russia controlled Japan instead.

>>45206350
no one gives a fuck because prefectural aoc was already higher than the meme meaningless national number

>>45205865
>>45206166
Yeah, it doesn't make much sense when people who are still learning JP talk about prose. Sure you can say you enjoyed reading the text but you won't be able to evaluate it properly if you're not fluent. Even weirder when they talk about grammatical errors or criticize prose.

>>45206391
Yet they had to do it to appease to their american masters, a literally all other prefectures got fucked in the process just to follow tokyo. So when sofurin approves a law that forbids any kind of loli/shota being shown(not legs meme anymore) dont act surprised when it happens.

HOWAITTO PIGGUS GO HOME

>>45206402
You don't need to be fluent to be able to see a difference between Romeo and say Hozumi Kei because only one of the two you will be able to comprehend

>>45206437
Nigga you just had to take a shot at our guy Kei.

>>45206446
What do you mean a shot, i'm praising him for being easy to understand

>>45206457
The issue is, Romeo is also easy to understand.

So I understood it as you shitting on Kei.

>>45206437
>Hozumi Kei
I just remembered that no longer works at eroges
How many big names are still active today?

>>45206437
>You don't need to be fluent to be able to see a difference between Romeo and say Hozumi Kei
Of course, because you can just repeat after your jop eceleb daddy :)

>>45206463
You clearly haven't read Saihate no ima then because not even him can understand all the schizo shit he wrote there

It's funny how the ones who suck ecelbs' cocks with the most passion are the ones who hate them the most. They just can't stop mentioning them

I can see the difference between mareni and everyone else's writing, is this an eceleb opinion?

>>45206520
According to these smegma cleaners
>>45206470
>>45206166
yeah

I wonder how come trying to understand the thought process of some classical writers (read: chronic alcoholics on aids) in 6th grade is considered absolutely normal and a part of compulsory education but trying to understand some harder eroge writers after 10 years of reading eroge is considered elitism

>>45206584
>buks gud animu ppt bad

>>45206584
The problem is that the act of creating something is linked to a body of knowledge, so it is often not enough to simply know japanese, you have to have a certain knowledge that the writers in question consider their target audience to possess. You can't ask a bunch of hikkis with no preparation outside of compulsory education to have knowledge of some specific branches of knowledge when the only thing they have dedicated a large part of their lives to is learning japanese. Since some can't understand that, they get salty

>>45206584
and people did not all perform at the same level when they were in school
when someone says "prose" I consider it to be a completely different meaning than just the themes they have in their writing

>>45206644
So basically you need to put a lot of effort to be able to understand certain writers which makes sense, and yet for doing so you will be instantly labeled as elitist or some celeb because how come you can take something as primitive as eroge seriously

>>45206584
I hold Scaji in higher regard than Nabokov or Dostoyevsky.

>>45206703
Not as primitive as garbage books.

>>45206713
Can you really make that assessment without knowing Russian? Well I guess there's a decent chance you're one of the slave posters.

>>45206703
There are some faggots who just hate their own lives and have to vent it on the internet against anyone. Eroge is fun, and so is the diversity of interpretations

>>45206584
Elitism is not just writing about themes of certain games and you know it

>>45206804
And yet you going to be labeled as so for a single mention of writing or themes or (god forbid) philosophy just because some certain elitist somewhere has been pretentiously doing something similar
So basically we just made a full circle there

>>45206682
Wait, prose is about themes? Always thought it was the way they worded their sentences, how they use the narration with dialogues and stuff like that, the way they write

>>45206845
You are correct, prose has to do with the way the sentences are constructed. Symbolism, theme, etc. aren't under that umbrella.

>>45206845
well >>45206584 was talking about the kind of bullshit you had to do as a kid in school where they realistically expect you to know what a metaphor is and stuff
what I'm saying is, you can still try to understand eroge in other ways without going "muh prose"

Prose is good and all but have you lads seen the new Geminism video?
https://youtu.be/m5V7PVK4lMs?si=Py3LDlnU2Vn4A_Ch
You don't even need a PC to read it so today's youth literally has no excuse.

What a fucking great way to end November. I'm going to finish reading setoguchi and then I can immediately start geminism. What were the other upcoming releases? I remember there were some delays

>>45206899
What are those other ways though?
Some of the ways i know of:
Understanding how hot the girls are (the most common one), then it goes to understanding what the writer wanted to tell through those hot girls, then how did he manage to write them as hot as they are, then what kind of reference that shimoneta was referring to, then what kind of symbolism has been hidden behind that cumshot, and then you can finally try to relate with the writer's psychical state when he wrote that guro scat scene

>>45206955
Autistic people have a big problem with subtext anon, unfortunately you ngmi

>>45206937
>What were the other upcoming releases?
Hakkenden is the one I'm looking forward to.
https://vndb.org/v31076
Trying to keep things light until then

>>45206937
>What were the other upcoming releases?
I think the other interesting ones coming out in november are Hirahira Hihiru and Criminal Border3
>>45206972
>Hakkenden
I'm also looking forward to this one

I'm interested in Hihiru but i still haven't read a single Setoguchi
And my autism tells me that i should read them all in order.

>>45206970
Reductionist takes is how you suck the fun out of anything and 4chuds are so addicted to it.

When someone says that eroge/galge are dead I take a look at bl&otomeshit(vinnies that women are playing) and then I'm glad we're nowhere near this level

>>45207386
Slow damage was kami apparently tho

>>45207386
If all you can be happy about is doing better than some of the most niche mediums available then it only confirms out current state

>>45207386
I like otome but chuunige and lot of other galge are usually more way enjoyable. Also you guys are better to talk to than the average otomefag.

>>45206383
I wish I had a sister like her

I'm just sad that loli protagonists had never managed to become a trend among otomes

>>45207571
Otome would be better it had more lolis, white haired girls and BR incest

>>45207687
And at least one optional yuri route

>>45207913
More actual friendships between girls would be nice too. Fucking Gayoushi got it right.

So i got curious for a second whether there are some male otome writers and... apparently there are some actual fags over there
https://vndb.org/v?q=&ch=&f=033gjaN38024wm-5wscenario-80UJ&s=m4N

>>45207386
>We will never have MC faces during sex scenes
It hurts...

>>45208019
What do you mean...

>>45207984
Reminder Nasu could've been in this list

>>45207984
Bet Masada would be a great BL/otome writer.

I'm so gay now bros
https://youtu.be/Vz9QWY7AO5w

>>45208421
God, I want to fuck all the guys Masada writes about. No homo

what's the story behind sorechiru being incomplete？

>>45208421
Toriumi Kousuke at least is in a couple of legit BL games.

>>45197007
>Why don't they pander the country where game piracy is legal?

>>45209502
They only do that because the West keeps bullying them.

>>45209502
Also Russia just blocks pretty much all anime porn on the internet. Technically it's not illegal but that Roscomnadzor thing is out of control. And they bully, raid, and deny publishing licenses to legal distributors of anime-related content too. That pretty much means that there is no possibility of legal market opportunities there, even if it wasn't an impoverished shithole with a piracy problem.

>>45210179
Anime is also considered the gayest thing ever there and if you get exposed in public that you are one of them you have a very high chance of being beaten (or at least it was like that years 5 ago)

>>45210209
Thirdies are wild.

>>45207984
I've seen some male nukige writers who've also randomly written BL.

>>45210209
>Russia is more based than america nowadays
Grim

>>45210209
Ehh, it's not like that in major metropolitan cities like St. Petersburg, Moscow, or Vladivostok (top Russian cosplayers are from these places). Might still be true in bumfuck Soviet shitsites.

>>45210273
By based you mean ruining itself just to prove its hateboner for anything non-Orthodoxy then sure.

>>45210179
Really crazy how this degree of racketeering culture never seeped into Japan despite sharing border boundaries with Russia.

>>45210425
You know there's like tens of thousands of miles in between where people actually live in russia and Japan right

>>45206584
>trying to understand some harder eroge writers after 10 years of reading eroge is considered elitism
uhh yesh hello i would like to post my thots on this very hard eroge write uhh my thots are no different than default eceleb thots on the subject and uhh i cant really say anything else about this eroge uhh because uhh idon't know but umm this prose is cool bro ohh

>>45210437
Vladivostok isn't all that far.

>>45206584
No one is reading classical writers for prose, mostly for the sake of themes. Baffling to see you don't even know difference between themes and prose and yet trying to defend your right to talk about prose eroge. Ironic.

>>45210574
People most definitely do read writers like Woolf, Joyce, McCarthy, Nabokov, Samuel Johnson etc. for the prose, what the hell are you talking about?

>>45210273
America is pretty based if you're black.

so what are the essential prosege?

>>45210574
I am certain that the vast majority here have an extreme level of autism, otherwise I can't explain how many of you have such a hard time understanding analogies

>>45210625
>akshually dat was analogy and not shit in my pants bro it's chocolate just you try it

>>45210574
What the fuck. There are several old English books that I've read specifically for the prose.

Are there any bad books that are overrated by autist elitists on /lit/ just as how Sakura Moyu is to this thread?

>>45210657
Eh?

>>45210657
Anna Karenina

>>45210657
prosecucks hate that game though.

>>45210664
those are fighting words

>>45210657
I wonder if this anon meant to say Sakura no uta.... It would have been rather retard of him to make that mistake tho

>>45210452
Vladivostok is almost completely irrelevant backwater city with nothing but fishermen and importers of Japanese second-hand cars.

>>45210684
Sca-ji games are not really prosege

>>45210699
But those games are attributed to elitists, not sakumoyu

>>45210694
St. Petersburg is just riding on /his/ and nothing else but it's still important by Ruskie standards. Vladivostok is civilization in the midst of vast Siberian wasteland.

>>45210694
So just like every non-Japanese city.

>>45210209
>(or at least it was like that years 5 ago)
This post is delusion, anime is normie thing in Russia since like 2010 or so
t. 26 years old Russian zoomer

>>45210597
hentai prison
kyokugen chikan 1
kyokugen chikan 2
kyokugen chikan 3

>>45210891

>>45210891
>>45210969
kek

imagine repeating these same stupid jop/eop/cartel jokes in the year of our lord 2023. this shit was already getting stale back in 2015. i have to imagine we're being raided by /vn/.

>>45211285
That sakumoyu comment makes me suspect that yeah

>>45210891
>>45210969
At this point I want to read oretsuba for context for the shitposts.

>>45211579
Why don't you read it then?

>>45211593
For some reason it's a lot easier to pick up and start reading some random kusoge than it is to go back and read something old that's been really hyped up, even if the old thing is probably really good. Maybe it's an expectations thing.
I just want cute girls to say they love me, I don't want to be intellectually stimulated or challenged.

>>45211605
Oretsuba is not about intellectual challenges. It barely has plot

>>45211627
You're selling me, are the girls cute?

>>45211632
yes, but it's cuckge.

>>45210657
Lol, pretty embrassing. I guess you meant Sakura no Uta and said Moyu cause you have been seeing me talk about it recently.

Sakura Moyu is about enjoying the drama and atmosphere, not prose. Though the game is great so now I like the prose too, including all the Urushibara-sensei quirks alike 小さいちいさい and さみしい.

Btw Sakura no Uta isn't a "prosege" either.

>>45211760
Shitposting cuckge as in a girl looks at another man once or there's a girl MC can't fuck, or is there on-screen explicit netorare sex with the intention you the reader jerks off to it?

>>45211605
Funny how memes can warp people's perception. All these games that certain people love to circlejerk over are fantastic entertainment, first and foremost. You can play games like Asairo, Subahibi or Oretsuba without going through a checklist of "preliminary reading" philosophy works and have a blast. And if you care enough you can also look into all these references and analyze how they relate to the game and get your challenge or intellectual stimulation. They're eroge, not philosophy treatises or something.

>>45211820
>without going through a checklist of "preliminary reading" philosophy works
You didn't read the game then.

>>45211830
ok

>he read Sakura no toki without watching Ghost (1990) first
You didn't read it

Bros, honestly... did anyone here like sakutoki? did you feel it was worth the wait?

>>45211890
I haven't read it but I think the lolibaba looks cute.

>>45211848
the ghost pottery scene lives rent free in my head

>>45211890
It was "okay" just like sakuuta

>>45211927
Personally I really liked sakuuta, but sakutoki was like... what the fuck happened here?

>>45211957
>sakutoki was like
It's all about vibing along, I have no idea about what happened towards sakutoki ending but I like it

What is the "Joker" (Todd Phillips, 2019) of VNs?

>>45212236
Joker (Oyamada Shin, 2012)