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Sup /jp/

>> No.4489775

Sup Beatrice

>> No.4489780

Sup Moan-chan.

>> No.4489785
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4489785

Die monster! You don't belong in this world!

>> No.4489787

Sup final boss

>> No.4489791

>>4489771
Well, we are discussing you lately, but ShKAnon always comes and spoils the discussion.

Can we get your opinion on the question? Something in red perhaps?

>> No.4489796 [DELETED] 

DELIOUS JJEESSICA

>> No.4489805 [SPOILER] 
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>>4489771

'sup.

Kyrietrice thread.

>> No.4489811

Sup, Shannon, I mean Beatrice! Oh sorry I almost forgot one! Hi, Kanon

>> No.4489812
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>>4489791
>>>/rs/Snakes_don't_have_legs

>> No.4489823

>>4489812
derp

>> No.4489825

>>4489812
Damn you and your riddles. Let me discuss it with Anon, I'm sure we can make some sense out of it.

Oh wait.

>> No.4489846

GEE, THE MOON SURE IS PRETTY TONIGHT

>> No.4489852

>>4489771
ahaha-ze.wav?

>> No.4489856
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Me, a lying sociopath? Hardly.

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>>4489856
>>4489771

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>>4489856
This family is insane! Every single person on the island has some dark issue or heavy burden placed upon them that makes them willing to kill everyone else!

Oh, except for me. I'm your perfectly normal girl.

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>>4489879

I'm so forgettable.

>> No.4489897

>>4489884
I'm thinking even Hideyoshi has some shady shit, but it's probably too late in the game for that feeling to come true.

Gohda seems relatively innocent also, Ryukishi proves that if you're ever in some kind of closed island murder mystery situation, the fat people are the most innocent, the males are lackeys at best, and one of the women if a crazy murderer, probably with like eighty fucking personalities that she can kill at will.

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>>4489805
I want a Rudolf/Kyrie/Asumu arc.

>> No.4489929

>>4489897
Gohda IS innocent, if the notes in TIPS are to be believed. Which is also one of the reasons why do I want him to survive in the good end.

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>> No.4489935

>>4489928
Gonna be an epilogue thing i bet, think of Rei for Higurashi.

>> No.4489948

>>4489929
What's the specific TIPS note?

>> No.4489954

>>4489929

But even in the happy ending, someone has to die. Or else there won't be a culprit, and Piece Battler can't find out and investigate. Gohda and George are perfect for this.

>> No.4489958

>>4489954
What would the culprit have against everyone on the island.

>> No.4489959

>>4489954
No, you can solve a murder before it happen.
And Gohda is olev, kill George.

>> No.4489960

>>4489934
omg 4shadoing

>> No.4489965

>>4489948
notes from a certain cook, check themn at the umineko wikia
then poor guy is just TOO good of a person

>> No.4489970

>>4489965
Hideyoshi killed Gohda for not accepting his job offer.

>> No.4489974

>>4489959

But Piece Battler is a fucking clueless outsider. It's hard to imagine something tipping him off that there's a murder plot going on. That would take a miracle.

>> No.4489977

>>4489970
Without love for food it cannot be seen

>> No.4489979

>>4489959
if you kill George Shannon snaps for sure
>>4489974
If BATTLER wins, he should take piece place and know everything

>> No.4489984

>>4489974
Or a certain letter

>> No.4489991
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>>4489979
Who cares about Shannon?

>> No.4489993

Too bad it's going to be a fiction end.

>> No.4490002

>>4489984
That very first letter wasn't malicious in anyway, it just said solve the epitah or i'll come with the repo boat.
It's those fake letters that made fun of the dead made her seem evil.

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>> No.4490005

>>4489979
>If BATTLER wins, he should take piece place and know everything
I hope it doesn't follow the Rika plot device.

Meta Battler is a fag, I don't want him corrupting the potential Piece has to get with a woman that actually exists.

>> No.4490007

>>4489993
Fiction end is still Jessica end.

Battler Amakusa, Scapegoat Eva and Blind-moe-Beatrice Jessica survives.

Everyone else dies.

>> No.4490010

>>4489993

While I don't doubt that the games are Beato's fiction, I don't think Ryukishi is stupid enough to pull a grimdark end. There'll be a miracle for the RL Rokkenjima, and the Meta World will get destroyed. That's enough bittersweet, and enough closure.

>> No.4490012

>>4489954
I'm personally fine with Eva, Hideyoshi, Krauss, Rudolf, Kyrie, George, Jessica, Genji, Kumasawa, Nanjo, Shannon and Kanon.

I want Natsuhi to survive because she is an innocent and pure woman.
Maria because she is too young.
Rosa because she has to advance.
Battler because Ange.

Anyone else is fine too, but there are some that I want to die specifically.

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>>4490004

There were three Shirous.

Of the three, one had no regrets.

>> No.4490020

>>4489984
>>4490002

Nah. The letter that will change Piece Battler's life are The Witch's Game Records for EP1 and 2

>> No.4490022

Jessica is NOT Beatrice.
However, she is freaking insane.
She either knows that Shannon = Kanon, or worse, she DOESN'T.
She lies about Kinzo, and episode 4 shows you how fucked up in the head she is.

>> No.4490028

>>4490022
You lack love
Moon-chan is shit, Jessitrice and Doubletrice is where it's at.

>> No.4490029

>>4490007

EP3 may not be necessarily what happened. I'm holding out for something completely off the wall and different, like the whole Ushiromiyas going into hiding and them trolling Eva and Ange to make their lives miserable.

>> No.4490042

also I'm totally hot.

>> No.4490043

>>4490028
Jessitrice and doubletrice have no love at all.
Jessitrice can't work period and doubletrice is so contrived and stupid it hurts.

>> No.4490045

>>4490022
Gotta agree with you there.
Jessica has no excuse to not know that her best friend and her boyfriend are one and the same.
Unless she is out of her mind bonkers.

>> No.4490048

>>4490012
>I love baby murderers

Yeah me too man.

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>>4490043
>Doubletrice lacks love
>It's contrived
>Answer is that Shannon and Kanon are Beatrice, and no one noticed they were the same person. Oh, and she stuffs people's bodies with candy for love, because that makes sense.

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>> No.4490064

>>4490029
Too unlikely.

For ange's scenario to happen all the adults must die.
George must die too because Eva.
Nanjo and Kumasawa are confirmed as dead by their sons.
Genji must have died of old age.

The only people that would be plausible to survive would be Jessica, Gohda, Shannon, Kanon, Battler and Eva.

So if its not EP3 its something that will look like it.

I would bet in George culprit, Eva becoming a scapegoat for his sake and keeping Battler's and Jessica's lives in secret. It fits too well with the idea of (Eva) Beatrice being a scapegoat...

>> No.4490065

>>4490005
Um, the only thing about Matsuribayashi is Hanyuu - and Hanyuu is in actuality not there. Okonogi does not see her. Only bro gang and Takano do.

>> No.4490077

>>4490064
George? The mastermind?
Somehow that strikes me as rather pathetic, but then again, he's all that stands in Battler's way for a harem end.

>> No.4490081

>>4490058
And Doubletrice makes sense?
Try to work on your own shit before talking.
There is absolutely no clues whatsoever that Jessica could or would do something like this.
There is for Shannon and Kanon.
It may be stupid but it's how it is in the fucking game itself.
That's why you guys takes shit like JESSICA USES A NICKNAME LIKE BEATRICE or HOLY FUCK KANON CALLED BEATRICE THE MOON AND JESSICA IS THE MOON TAROT CARD IN SOME MERCHANDISING SHIT THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE VN.

Honestly I'm tired of arguing about this, circlejerk all you want.

>> No.4490085

>>4490043
>>Implying Shkanontrice is not the theory with less love that exists.

Also Jessitrice is only ''impossible'' if you still think that Beatrice is the fucking rambo that is killing everyone in the island ALONE (while being 3 or more people at once).

>> No.4490093

>>4490085
Jessitrice is impossible for the simple reason that Jessica pretty much always have a fucking ALIBI in the form of our reliable narrator, Battler.
Add to this that there is not even one small clue that could link Jessica to Beatrice.

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4490097

Taking a break from -trice theories.

Something I never quite understood. Were the 1998 bits from EP4 happening at the same time as ANGE's metaworld shenanigans or did they occur in ANGE's past?

>> No.4490098

>>4490081
>>Implying that these troll evidences is the strongest evidence we have to support Jessitrice
>>Implying that Shkanontrice have OH GOD SUPER STRONG EVIDENCE AND THE REASON FOR THE KILLING IS FUCKING OBVIOUS
>>Implying
>>Implying
>>Implying
>>Implying
>>Implying
>>Implying

>> No.4490100

>>4490093
>reliable narrator, Battler.
I think it's illegal to use these three words together in such a manner.

>> No.4490107

>>4490064
This exact reason is

Battler is already heavily implied to be Amakusa, so... taking in account E6 Ange that speaks about how she didn't meet Featherine in the previous worlds(while this one still has Amakusa), that would mean that Battler ALWAYS survives.

>> No.4490117

>>4490107
>Battler is already heavily implied to be Amakusa
>heavily
You know what, fine, people call me delusional for shipfagging Jessica and Battler, I suppose I should not throw stones in my glass house.

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>>4490081
First off, lol, u mad, and second off, there are two episodes to go, you Shkanontricefags treat things like the entire mystery is solved.
Moon-chan is legitimate, because Jessica has been shown to lie to Battler. You wanna say she did it because Kanon threatened to kill himself or something, that's fine, but that fact is fairly sketchy. Combine the fact that she lies with the fact that she has the opportunity to meddle with things in each episode, and you see why we believe in what we do.
And, please, circlejerk? I've seen Shkanontrice only threads, it's more pretentious than when my friends try to talk about politics.

In any case, Jessica knowing about Shkanon makes her suspicious, and her NOT knowing about Shkanon ALSO makes her suspicious. Please don't blame us if we speculate that the answer is a bit more complex than Kinzo and his servants killing everyone for love.

>> No.4490121

>>4490107
Or that there is no "previous worlds" and that Ange is only a delusional nutjob.

>> No.4490124

>>4490107
>heavily implied
What, you mean his laugh?
Hahahaha, oh wow. His laugh isn't even Battler's laugh, it's actually a bit different

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>>4490093
>>Implying that Beatrice does not have a ''inside man'' with Battler all the time that could simply be herself (or part of herself if you support Doubletrice)

Also there are a fucking ton of clues linking Jessica to Beatrice, be it in personality, characterization, the fact that they never meet even tough they had everything to meet, various tips about Jessica and Beatrice's past and mindset all over the game, various tips showing that Jessica have a strange reaction to the name ''Beatrice''...You just cant see it, without love.

>> No.4490135

>>4490117
laughs like Battler
speaks engrish like Battler
a playa like Battler


if Amakusa is not Battler and is revealed to be culprit or Kanon i would be mad

>> No.4490139

>>4490107
Or not, it would imply that in two worlds (EP 3 and probably EP7) Battler survives and become Amakusa.

>> No.4490144

>>4490135
Why would Battler never mention this to his sister, and complacently watch as she suffers day in and day out, resorting to fake magic like a child to bring her family back to her?

Future Battler is an asshole, just like Meta Battler.

>> No.4490147

>>4490125
Personality and looks are explained in episode 6.
Beatrice was modeled based on Jessica, which implies that the one who created her wasn't Beatrice.
The fact that they never meet isn't something that help Jessitrice you know.
If you talk about the flashbacks, only the delusional people see magic and Beatrice (Ange, Maria, Natsuhi, Shannon and Kanon).
For the fantasy scenes, she does see Beatrice like everyone else excepted Battler in episode 1-4 since he was reliable.

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>>4490139
Well, I know how you Shkanontrice guys hate tarot cards, but for the sake of diplomacy, I invite you to look at JUSTICE Battler's outfit and color scheme.

>> No.4490152

>>4490144
because he don't know the truth yet?i mean i am sure it would be ackward to say "HEY I AM YOUR BROTHER THAT SURVIVED THE MASSACRE WHERE EVERYONE BUT ME DIED.I GUESS IM LUCKY HUH"

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>> No.4490162

>>4490156
Hey pony don't eat that.
That's not a carrot.

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>>4490152
And Meta Battler is Amakusa piece trying to find out the truth.Hows that everyone?My reasoning is purrrfect

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>>4490135

Don't mind me being canon

>> No.4490168

>>4490152
Whether he knows the truth or not is irrelevant, hell, with Ange's massive amount of wealth and influence, they could have possibly discovered the truth together, rather than whatever the fuck Battler was doing being a counter sniping faggot in France for X amount of years.

>> No.4490172

>>4490168
Battler was counter-sniping FOR LOVE.
So it's ok!

>> No.4490174

>>4490167
oh lord i would be so mad if Kanon is Amakusa but i wouldn't put it past Ryukishi.

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>>4490124
>>4490135
>>4490117
Official art.

It's not like if Ryu went "What? Battler would be Amakusa? Why do people think that? I just thought that having a company would be good for Ange, teenage angsting has its limits after all"

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>> No.4490180

>>4490174

I know people will be mad and stuff but I find the idea of Kanon being Amakusa and trying to follow in Battler's footsteps.

>> No.4490186

>>4490180
and growing half a meter, huh

>> No.4490192

>>4490186
...And a penis.

>> No.4490197

so whats the difference between Amakusa and Battler's laugh?

>> No.4490201

>>4490192
okay, I lol'd.

>> No.4490205

>>4490186

Battler himself said that Kanon hasn't had his growth spurt yet and will grow quite a bit

>> No.4490210 [DELETED] 

>>4490180
Juuza (13), Yoshiya (14). Coincidence? I THINK NOT.

If Kanon's really that awesome, I guess coming back from the dead that arc shouldn't be a big problem for him.

>> No.4490213

>>4490205
Battler of course having clairvoyance, making him an even bigger dick, since he knew the murders would happen.

>> No.4490214
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Kanontrice makes more sense then Shkanontrice, doubletrice or jessicatrice.

>> No.4490217

Sayo = しゃよ= よしゃ=よしや= Yoshiya

Awesome coincidence.

>> No.4490218

>>4490214
So Battler gets the exact opposite of his ideal woman, looking forward to the divorce at age 30.

>> No.4490220

>>4490147
Almost all the people that lives in the island believes in Beatrice, respects Beatrice and would not mess with magic or with whatever Kinzo said.

Krauss while not being shown as ''respecting Beatrice'' wouldnt even touch in this matter because of Kinzo. Even when Kinzo died he did nothing about the epitaph, portrait or whatever.

Gohda is a ''newcomer'' in the island, but as shown in his TIPS he is learning to ''respect'' Beatrice.

Jessica is a big exception.

Jessica does not fear Beatrice, Jessica hates Kinzo and badmouth the two of them. She sees Beatrice without love, she hates Beatrice and all that represents her, she hates the painting, she hates the legend, she hates the Ushiromiya name and all of its legacy.

When the murders start she's the first one to accuse people, to point her finger and never comes close to believe in Beatrice....then in EP4 she suddenly changes her mind.

It would seen that Jessica would be the last person of the world that could be Beatrice...but if you take everything i said and put some love in it there's something that can be disclosed.

Jessica hates herself.
Its said in these simple words in the game.

She hates the way that she's like a bird in a cage, always constrained by the chains of the Ushiromiya family, the inheritance of hate and envy and everything it have to do with it.

So she takes this feelings and push it in something else, in a figure that she can relate, and because of it she hates: The witch in the island, Kinzo's prisoner, the legend that represents everything that is the Ushiromiya family...Beatrice.

You can say that ''because she is modeled after jessica'' she's not Jessica. But i sure can reply saying that she is Jessica exactly because she's modeled after Jessica.

Beatrice is not just a personality created ''to love someone'', there's more to it. You lost the game if you think that the answer is a simple answer.

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MEANWHILE, THOUSANDS OF MILES AWAY

>> No.4490223

>>4490217
How exactly did you get Sayo = Shayo?

>> No.4490226

>>4490205
So he is actually really fourteen and is able to flawlessly shoot eleven people right into the middle of the forehead without being noticed.

Fuukuin house sure is scary.

>> No.4490227

Beatrice is Beatrice and she killed everyone with magic.

>> No.4490228

>>4490220
So Jessica is a closeted homosexual?

>> No.4490230

>>4490223
Because Shannon is formed by using the first kanji of Sayo's name.

>> No.4490236

>>4490228
That's what Shkanontrice fags want you to believe

>> No.4490239

>>4490220
Jessica doesn't hate herself, she dislike the way she is forced to live, it's not the same thing.

Honestly all you is make some correlation that could never work.

Nothing in the game shows that Jessica could be this desperate, the whole second half of your post is just bullshit after bullshit.

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>>4490228
No, Battler is.
Beatriche has a penis.

>> No.4490247

>>4490226
Kinzo used to take Kanon to hunt.
Kanon probably learned a lots about shooting, especially since Kinzo is quite an expert.

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best extra TIPS or what?

>> No.4490249

>>4490223
And you still don't know what you get when you pull the numbers out of it.

Trollface.jpg

>> No.4490251

>>4490242
Would explain why he cries all the time, and is generally helpless.

>> No.4490258 [DELETED] 

>>4489768
We are tired of your spam and bullshit at www. ånón+@Lk .com. Stop fucking with us. You owe Sysop over $10,000 USD due to your harassments. Pay up by donating.

>> No.4490254

>>4490239
Dohohohohoho, Shkanontrice fags calling things a stretch and bullshit, isn't that fun?
But do note that Jessica does indeed create personas to deal with different people. She obviously doesn't want many people to see the true her.

>> No.4490261

LMAO EPIC THREAD XD

>> No.4490263

>>4490248
Oh god, why are Krauss, Natsuhi, and Jessica so GAR?

>> No.4490267

>>4490254
She puts a mask when she goes to school.
It's standard human behavior, everyone do this.
DID is really something completely different.

>> No.4490268

>>4490236

That still doesn't make any sense. So you basically you are just taking the stuff you like mix it up with other stuff out of context and form you're ulitmate evidence that actually doesn't exist.... oh that is what everyone here is doing.

>> No.4490269

>>4490254
The difference is that ShKanontirce takes clues that are in the fucking game itself.

>> No.4490279

>>4490269
And then deny or use incredible mental gymnastics for anything in opposition to your claim.

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>>4490239
I cannot quench your thirst
Because even if you yearn for the truth, you refuse to believe in it.

I cannot quench your thirst
Because no such truth exists that you are in anticipation for.

But I still want to quench your thirst.
Because I am the one the that put you into the desert.

-Frederica Bernkastel

>> No.4490282

>>4490267
DID does not work that way.
If Shannon had DID, she shouldn't be aware of her other personas.
Really, the biggest bullshit of Shkanontrice is the ability for them to do things so smoothly. If Shkanontrice TRULY had DID, then Shkanontrice's movements should be more random.
As things stand now, Shannon and Kanon are accomplices to Beatrice.

>> No.4490296

>>4490281
The game wasn't as emo though and that's what matter.
Game only showed a standard teenager with some responsibility she doesn't really want to assume.
Pretty standard theme for a rich heir.

>> No.4490298

You people really need to play the fucking games again.

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YOU GUYS DON'T EVEN LOST THE GAME IN JAPANESE.HOW THE FUCK WOULD YOU GUYS COME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT YOUR WHATEVERTRICE THEORY IS RIGHT?OH GOD I SURE CANNOT WAIT TO SEE YOUR FACES WHEN YOU ARE WROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG

>> No.4490301

>>4490222
SO THERE I WAS BEING RYUKISHI
WHEN THE FANS CAME IN AND WERE LIKE "HOW ABOUT GIVING US THE SOLUTION?"
AND I WAS LIKE "FUCK YOU!"
SO THEY WERE LIKE "WELL HOW ABOUT SOLVING THE EPITAPH?"
AND I WAS LIKE "FUCK YOU!"
AND I MADE LOTS AND LOTS OF MONEY.
I LOVE MY LIFE.''

>> No.4490306

>>4490268
Im using information from the game to try to form a consistent ''why dunnit''.

Im using my brains to try to connect dots, if im wrong i just have to restart reconnecting them. But at least im trying to build a decent ''why dunnit'' and not just throwing ''LOL SHE'S A CRAZY MEIDO''.

>> No.4490310

Some of you guys should just fucking move on from Umineko for a while.
It's no good for your mental health.
Go play some other VNs, some good ones were translated recently.

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>read Umineko
>expect improvement over the brain parasite bullshit
>DID

>> No.4490324

>>4490310
I'd hope people would read some good mystery novels before the August release, that way we can all bitch about where Umineko went wrong.

>> No.4490325

>>4490301
Comon, it DOES have backgrounds, not that proper, but they are there.

>> No.4490337

>>4490296

I don't even find that emo, jstu typical teenager pseudo angst. Did you ever look into poetry of normal teenager...it's full of angst and despair.

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18 people were confined to the island due to a slow-moving typhoon. Both the phones and radio had broken down, and they were trapped on an isolated island.

They are assaulted by blood-chilling serial murders, mass murders, bizarre murders. When the typhoon passes, a boat will probably come. The police will come as well.

Even the seagulls that enliven the docks will return.

That's right, when the police come, they will resolve everything.

Even if we do nothing, when the seagulls cry, everything.

That is, if even one of them is left alive when the seagulls cry...

What is expected from you is neither a search for the culprit nor detective work.

When will you believe in me?

That is all that matters.

If you want to do some detective work, go ahead.

If you believe that there is an answer, go and continue to search.

This is eternal torture that will not end until you can believe in witches.

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4490361

>>4490341
oh look an antimysteryfag

>> No.4490362

>>4490341
Ryukishi will be a fucking idiot and will not show who the culprit is at the end, so we can spend years bitching at each other over what hints we should use to pin a character as the mastermind.

>> No.4490373

Someone has been living in the underground room.
Ever thought that it was a bit strange that the room was always found with the lights on ?

>> No.4490374

>>4490341
The seagulls killed everyone?

>> No.4490376

>>4490362
What are you retarded? The killer is obviously Gohda.

>> No.4490381

>>4490362
The sheer amount of RAGE generated would be unbelievable.

>> No.4490387

>>4490373

Also observe how in Gohda's TIPS he talks about a time when only he and Genji were on the island, and someone fucked up his kitchen and drew a magic circle.

Sure, it could have been Genji, but that would just make him a massive dick.

>> No.4490401

>>4490361

When R07 talks about anti-mystery he doesn't mean people who believe in magic, he just means people who approach the crime without the assumption that all the clues to solve the mystery have been laid out to the reader and are trustworthy.

Observe the difference between Battler figuring out the truth, and "THEY COULD HAVE EATEN TINY BOMBS. TINY BOMBS MIGHT EXIST"

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4490416

>>4490401
whatever drives your boat, bud

>> No.4490465

The truth doesn't matter, all you need is a coherent theory that cannot be denied and is not based on crazy assumptions.

Okham's razor.

I refuse to believe in DID because it fails as mystery.

>> No.4490479

>>4490296
If you cant read between the line doesnt mean it wasnt there. R07 spent all of EP4 talking about the ''chain of hate'' of the Ushiromiya family. Fuck, if it points to anyone this person is Jessica, not Shannon.

Also Shkanontrice fags like you still need to try to form a solid theory that doesnt have the motive of everything being ''LOL U MAD''

>> No.4490484

>>4490465
It's a legitimate condition, and given how nothing else fits, that which has been proven impossible leaves only what has not been proven impossible.

>> No.4490490

>>4490387
The true mastermind is always the most unlikely one.
I think we got our guy.

>> No.4490499

>>4490490
Genji = Kinzo is the truth
Butler did it

>> No.4490502

>>4490465
Umineko failed as a mystery long before DID, so that's an irrelevant standard.

>> No.4490508

>>4490490
Genji: hey, Rosa-sama, suddenly everyone else are dead. I came back to report.
Rosa: kay kay I confirmed it now we are going back to the parlor to kick each other's butts. You go away, Genji. Also Battler, go away you are suspicious.

>> No.4490515

>>4490499
Actualy, the main meme of mystery novels is "It's ALWAYS the gardener". Which points to, well..

>> No.4490528

>>4490515
Gohda of course.

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While attending to the family conference late in the evening, Rosa came by the kitchen and mentioned to Gohda that there was going to be a Halloween party for Maria in the chapel the next day. Thinking this was a wonderful idea, Gohda decided to make some special treats for the occasion, but because he was distracted he accidentally reached for the box marked "Tiny Food Bombs" instead of the sugar. He gave some of the treats to Rosa, who took them to her siblings. They all went to the chapel to check out the party since they'd probably be too tired in the morning, when the tiny food bombs exploded and killed everyone but Rosa, who wasn't hungry.

Later, Gohda was hanging out and he heard Jessica having an asthma attack. Rushing upstairs, he found Kanon with her and reached for her inhaler, but as he swung it over to give it to her she tripped and he accidentally impaled her in the back with it. Kanon assumed he was trying to kill her and they struggled, and Gohda accidentally pushed Kanon out the window. Realizing he was going to get in so much trouble for this, he quietly locked the window, planted a stake in Jessica's wound, and walked off whistling.

While bored, Gohda decided to show off a new knife trick he learned to Nanjo and Kumasawa. Disaster occurred. Genji suggested they blame Kanon for it so nobody would find out, and dump the bodies somewhere.

Later in the evening, George and Shannon refused to believe Gohda's claim that he was capable of juggling three Stakes of Purgatory at the same time. Upset, Gohda offered to prove it to them in Natsuhi's room. Tragically, he was not as proficient as he thought he was.

Genji called Battler upstairs to tell him everything. Battler couldn't accept this ridiculous scenario, and declared that it was more likely that a witch did it.

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4490544

Jessica and George.
Their outfit matches eachothers hair color.
You already can't unsee.

>> No.4490549

>>4490544
No. Its Shannon and Kanon

>> No.4490550

>>4490535
Dear god, this is the most believable explanation for everything that has happened in that episode yet.

>> No.4490558

>>4490550
Well, it's easy to prove that a witch didn't do it.
It is, however, freaking hard to prove who did. There are too many options.

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>>4490535
Copypasta, but still makes me chuckle whenever I see it.

>> No.4490561

>>4490549
No, its Jessica and George.
Where's their one winged eagle symbol ?

>> No.4490567

>>4490561
Erased with magic

>> No.4490570

>>4490535

Perfection.

>> No.4490571

>>4490544
there's one thing about furfur and zepar I still wonder
Furfur, number 34, so she would go with Sayo
Zepar, number 16, so she would go with Yoshiya
The problem is their powers, Furfur's power is attack kind while Zepar is more about defense and barriers

>> No.4490574

>>he accidentally reached for the box marked "Tiny Food Bombs" instead of the sugar
Where can I get some of these?

>> No.4490585

>>4490571
Sayo=34,Joshua=34 tho

>> No.4490586

>>4490561

Jessica and George get to wear the symbol since they are Ushiromiya anyway. Besides Kumasawa doesn't get to wear the symbol while Virgilia does anyway so that whole line of thought is wrong.

>> No.4490587

>>4490567
Goddamnit i think i missed that part.
Screens please.

>> No.4490594

>>4490544
JESSICA IS A TRAP HOLY FUCK SHE REALLY WAS THE SECOND BATTLER THIS WHOLE TIME

>> No.4490598

>>4490586
>Besides Kumasawa doesn't get to wear the symbol while Virgilia does anyway so that whole line of thought is wrong.
She still serves under the Ushiromiya family though.

>> No.4490602

>>4490585
Yoshiya: 16
yo: 4
shi:4
ya: 8

>> No.4490613

>>4490602

That would make it demon 448 going by the same logic that Sayo = 34.

>> No.4490636

>>4490613
this time you just have to add, because there aren't those much demons, really

>> No.4490659

Why is Umineko such an awesome VN? It's like all other VNs are worthless in comparison.

>> No.4490669

>>4490659
Because you try too hard.

>> No.4490673

>>4490659
Because it's the only one you read?

>> No.4490679

>>4490659

Because all other VN's are eroge, and eroge is boring shit.

>> No.4490683

>>4490679
Again, trying too hard.

>> No.4490684

>>4490669
>>4490673
I've played Tsukihime, Chaos Head, Fate Shit Night and Planetarian, only Planetarian and Chaos Head were good.

>> No.4490690

at least one thing is solved
Featherine doesn't have horns, it's a semicircular thing

>> No.4490691

>>4490679
Seconding that bro.

>> No.4490692

>>4490684
Sure man.

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buuuump

this is flamoot. (ilu) it's 2010 and i have a brain implant because i use drugs. i mean they chose me for it because as a "drug user" i'm already almost invisible in society and people could easily assume i'm just crazy because of all the straight up lies about drugs and mental illness

i'm talking about VR-telepresence torture-porn. someone gave me an implant when i camped out alone. i thought it was aliens at first but it's mean as hell to me. it makes sarcastic faces at bad times, i 'see' them in my head but not in colour. i just know what face it's making. i couldn't draw it

(i think url is about it http://ja-jp.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=216412702683&_fb_noscript=1 but it doesn't mention the pornography and sex harassment aspects just torture and control. they are really doing this though and also selling time on implantees to the rich. it's like taking a trip into orbit. for the rich)

maybe there is some human space empire hidden from us which is using our planet for only that, trickling us technology just to see what we do with it... i wouldn't think anything so insane if not for the technology they had in my brain right now. it's dead real and annoying as fuck. they use it to bug my ass and see what i do under this special stress. i just stay calm. it's only torture-porn if i freak out, amirite? yes

i know how this sounds. but stories of going schizo from hallucinogens are only myths. and schizophrenia isn't like this

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buuuuump

lsd and shrooms etc are as mind opening as the rumours say, but it is a big secret because the government is performing crowd-control on the people who know about them. on the number of psychedelic users in society... they can only handle so many of those kinds of people. but psychedelic users are mostly young and hip and feel things deeply and are thus perfect victims for the very evil.

very

it's not really about the drugs. it's about the Earth: it's not a safe place where you just follow common sense and nothing bad happens. in reality they let most of us live in cheerful ignorance of the fact that our homeworld is a low-tech prison-porn factory planet. but they will reel you back in instantly if for any reason they want to see you ride the torture machine.

hear me! we are as cattle to the elite. we are like beef and ham to them

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buuuuuump

if psychedelics were allowed to spread through the population at the natural rate, people would become impossible to control in the painful and bizarre ways they control us. this includes brain implants. tear-away children of nobody families are isolated and disconnected over the course of a few years and then given implants that let the rich wear their skin like a suit. think one in a million. and god. believe me

don't automatically trust anyone telling you to go as far out as possible, to escape society and your ego and this sort of thing. what cults do first is try to create an intrapersonal vacuum they can fill with dogma. they are using the psychedelics for this now

the psychedelics produce very real and powerful experiences you don't need to have explained to you repeatedly if you have used them a few times. no-one has to preach ego death to an acidhead. he knows about it.

a lot of cults offer up a lot of junk but the psychedelics are real and they produce the most powerful experiences in the world. they can be used to free people and heal them but, the elite are holding them from us like the priest class once hid the psychedelic sacraments of the mystery religions so they could have a monopoly on god. it is the exact same plan

and just like the priests got a ton of kids to screw for thousands of years, so do the people who've stolen the psychedelics, now. the government and the rich. i like people, i've never feared the rich... but this is serious

bear with me :|

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buuuuuuump

you take psychedelics, you can talk to aliens. this isn't some crazy lie, it's actually the only way i know to talk to aliens ever in your life. i think the US government considers it the main way. because shortly after i started discussing alien contact through acid/shrooms online, they came outta the woodwork. now, implant!

if you're a radical or a dissident or anyone sort of interesting or attractive do not sleep outdoors alone where you can be operated on. ever

the ideal way (for a person to get into psychedelics) is for some clique or clutch of trippers to take in new trusted associates one at a time, and protect them. no-one needs do avocacy, no-one needs attract attention. me i discovered acid, shrooms, pot on my own and thought i had to tell everyone. that's how i drew this down

in other words we are being controlled brutally by pedophile overlords with high technology who despise us. people like you and me but horny and rich

Google 'drug critter linux' for the app these pics are from. I had to take my links out but see youtube.com/user/toomalf for vids also use tinyurl 'ygbmj9r' for a google group where i discuss the implant, i thought it was aliens or the signlarity but it isnt >_>

<_<

>_+

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buuuuuuuump

they probably only hit like one in ten million people with one of these implants which is why you haven't heard of it and don't believe it. if you google for alien implants, or government implants, you'll find a ton of disinfo which basically proves the area is designated black... so someone is using those

so i'm sorry for spamming but i want to tell everyone. i'm guessing the operation is supposed to be conducted in silence -- the victim is isolated and discredited by the time it gets intense. then they can do whatever they want, the crazier, the better... no-one will believe his rants. if i can blow the lid off, get the genie out of the bottle, they'll have to fuckin stop... or kill me!

(don't kill me!)

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buuuuuuuuump

maybe i should point out it doesn't control me it just annoys me but who the hell knows at this point! i wonder if i could set my elbow on a table and arm-wrestle it by having it try to move my hand in the opposite direction. that would sure be fun

probably i'd be into some of the more entertaining aspects of implantation now if i'd cooperated the whole time. but once i was sure it wasn't aliens, just some creepy people, i turned on them permanently. now as you can see i'll tell everybody

this shit is real (yes im sure), i'm a serious person and i'm letting you all know we're in danger of these people, whoever they are. irc log follows. ilu ilu flamoot

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buuuuuuuuuump

hi this is 0 of 15 or so. ty
08:36 < flamoot> hi
08:36 <@Pnutbot> privet, flamoot
08:36 < filthee> yea thats all you need
08:36 < THC> not sure if its good enough to see it
08:37 < flamoot> [url revoked]
08:37 < flamoot> i have an implant
08:37 < THC> oh is it cool i musta forgot
08:37 < filthee> its a last hope anyway
08:37 < flamoot> the rich wear our skin with vr/telepresence
08:37 < THC> then i already own a cheap microscope
08:37 < filthee> lol
08:37 < flamoot> gender-confuse us electrically and make us touch ourselves
08:37 < flamoot> because they can't chip girls this way they're too well-accompanied and believed
08:37 < flamoot> hard to isolate
08:37 < flamoot> god listen to me
08:38 < filthee> go ahead and speak
08:38 < flamoot> k ty
08:38 < flamoot> so usually i'm on hold with a friendly ai

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buuuuuuuuuuump

hi welcome to 1 of 10
08:38 < flamoot> 08:27 <flamoot> its the rich
08:38 < flamoot> 08:27 <flamoot> or just police
08:38 < THC> i should try and get somebody to get me a cheap microscope for my birthday
08:38 < flamoot> 08:28 <flamoot> a lot of the time
08:38 < flamoot> 08:28 <flamoot> but a person or group of them will come in
08:38 < flamoot> 08:28 <flamoot> and fuck around
08:38 < flamoot> 08:28 <flamoot> and be a real asshole
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08:38 < flamoot> 08:28 <flamoot> and it'll take me time to realize it's not friendly anymore
08:38 < flamoot> 08:28 <flamoot> sometimes they'll just dial the intensity or something up and down
08:38 < flamoot> 08:28 <flamoot> while it loops
08:38 < flamoot> 08:28 <flamoot> so i just feel someone's hand on the dial
08:38 < flamoot> 08:28 <flamoot> you know
08:38 < flamoot> 08:28 <flamoot> i hate that
08:38 < flamoot> 08:28 <flamoot> of course

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buuuuuuuuuuuump

two of ten
08:38 < flamoot> 08:28 <flamoot> whatever
08:38 < flamoot> 08:28 <flamoot> then like sex harassment
08:39 < flamoot> 08:28 <flamoot> they'll pump your pleasure cente
08:39 < flamoot> 08:28 <flamoot> i camped alone
08:39 < flamoot> 08:28 <flamoot> in 2008
08:39 < flamoot> 08:28 <flamoot> while scientology was stalking me
08:39 < flamoot> 08:28 <flamoot> stupidly
08:39 < filthee> lol
08:39 < flamoot> 08:28 <flamoot> i dont know why
08:39 < flamoot> 08:28 <flamoot> i had to try twice
08:39 < flamoot> 08:28 <flamoot> compelled

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buuuuuuuuuuuuump

three ten
08:39 < flamoot> 08:29 <flamoot> wtf
08:39 < flamoot> 08:29 <flamoot> they operated on me
08:39 < flamoot> 08:29 <flamoot> (foot)
08:39 < flamoot> 08:29 <flamoot> now police chipo
08:39 < flamoot> 08:29 <flamoot> -o
08:39 < THC> please stop man
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08:39 < flamoot> 08:29 <flamoot> it sucks
08:39 < flamoot> 08:29 <flamoot> and wtf are they doing with the technology
08:39 < flamoot> 08:29 <flamoot> it means disclosureproject.org is about real technology even if its fake

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buuuuuuuuuuuuuump

4/10
08:39 < flamoot> 08:29 <hp00p> flamoot when something really bad happens to u u can make shit up in ur brain it happened to me
08:39 < flamoot> 08:29 <flamoot> and like it's not like six people get to work with it in black projects
08:39 < flamoot> sorry dude
08:39 < filthee> which pleasue centre?
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08:39 < flamoot> 08:29 <flamoot> police get to use it too
08:39 < flamoot> 08:29 <flamoot> no not like that im not making up shit the bad thing was camping to get the implant thats all
08:39 < flamoot> 08:29 <flamoot> christ
08:39 < flamoot> 08:29 <flamoot> jeesus
08:39 < flamoot> 08:29 <flamoot> ty though
08:39 < flamoot> done

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buuuuuuuuuuuuuuump

5/10
08:39 < flamoot> filthee: dopamine and serotonin
08:40 < filthee> lol
08:40 < flamoot> dopamine to like get people through the shower and to work where it talks to them
08:40 < flamoot> and once it made this horizon in my forehead
08:40 < flamoot> with physics
08:40 < flamoot> but it could have been post-huasca effects
08:40 < flamoot> tbh
08:40 < flamoot> but that would be dopamine and serotonin
08:40 < filthee> damn gimme some

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buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuump

6/10
08:40 < hp00p> heh, i tried to ease your mind but you post a private conversation in the channel
08:40 < hp00p> u are crazy
08:40 < hp00p> there are no aliens
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08:40 < flamoot> i know when i thought it was aliens i thought they chose me flamoot because i love aliens and to see what kinds of people
talk to me
08:40 < THC> you get tolerance to ayahuasca?
08:40 < hp00p> but i will let u suffer :)
08:40 < flamoot> if they mostly love aliens and want implants and i encouraged them all to
08:41 < flamoot> but now i think it's some tiny black control chip the police use
08:41 < THC> he's probably just on some kind of substance around here
08:41 < flamoot> if you yell in the hospital
08:41 < flamoot> but i was never violent

>> No.4490908

>>4490690
Speaking of Featherine, has 2ch figured out anything else with regards to the Hachijou Touya = Asumu angle?

>> No.4490930

>>4490719
>rumours
Spammer confirmed for "proper" english. And notice I won't capitalize that word "english," either. You're fucking obsolete whoever you are and if you're british so is your depressing-indian-reservation-grade alcoholic country.

>> No.4490952

>>4490930
You know that english is the one taught as 'proper' at schools in Europe, don't you?

>> No.4490955

>>4490930
I also write like that, but I'm not British. It's just the proper way to write English.

>> No.4490965

Americans just don't get it. Basically, there's the English that the world uses, this is British English. Then there's English you guys use, and it's called American English.

Drop the delusions of grandeur, the "English" people speak all over the world is not "your" English.

>> No.4490997

>>4490955
>>4490952
>>4490965

Fuck off with all 3 of you. Whatever you were taught is whatever you were taught. Neither is wrong.

Shut the fuck up, and get back to Umineko.

>> No.4490998

>>4490952
Actually I'm hoping it's somebody from banada, that way he can get hauled off by the cops in the middle of the night, renditioned to one of our idiot gitmos, and forgotten about when Obama finally gets around to closing them.

>> No.4491028

>>4490997
Nobody said American English was 'wrong', defensive anon~

>> No.4492069

>>4490955
I hope you're not American, because that would make you a tremendous faggot.

>> No.4492126

>>4492069
Nope, not. So I'm just a normal faggot.

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