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Guide: https://djtguide.neocities.org/
Guide: https://djtguide.github.io/

Previous threads:
>>44842386 (#3656)
>>44832563 (#3655)
>>44823010 (#3654)

>> No.44853762
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winter is coming
comfy immersion sessions ahead

>> No.44853773

it was 80 degrees today

>> No.44853810

matt won

>> No.44853817

matto the type of guy to run away when his gf gets attacked in the street

>> No.44853821

his hater the type of guy who can't get a gf

>> No.44853826

haven't tried but i have big plans in the next year

>> No.44853831

>>44853821
https://streamable.com/zs5joo

>> No.44853885

Is the Core 2K/6K deck in the guide actually better than the Core 2K w/ audio deck from the Anki website? Asking because it looks fairly comprehensive to me already and it'd be kinda annoying having to restart.

>> No.44853914

https://anacreondjt.gitlab.io/docs/coredeck/

you'll want this one with all the fixes

>> No.44853952

>spend 10 minutes trying to figure out why none of my translations of a hiragana term result in anything
>turns out it's a name
okay

>> No.44853968

>>44851334
Bros pls...

>> No.44853977

>>44853914
Looks good, but kinda annoying it doesn't have furigana for the sentences.

>> No.44853988

>fuirgana
holy ngmi batwoman

>> No.44853989

>>44853977
Also it uses kanji for words that are traditionally written in kana.

>> No.44854010

why would you put sentences that you cant read on your cards

>> No.44854014

>>44853977
you have the sentence audio, it doesnt matter

>> No.44854016

ciaran didnt put sentences on his cards

>> No.44854056

>>44853989
this is also good because you will inevitably see them written like that one day

>> No.44854074

>>44854056
bullshit excuses to sidestep the deck's flaws

>> No.44854094

>oh no if i see the kanji 10 times in anki i might forget that the n6 word i see 300 times a day is normally written in kana
jesus christ

>> No.44854107

everytime i mined something in kana it was a mistake

>> No.44854108

aside from onomatopoeia which dont have kanji anyway i cant imagine why anyone would mine any kana words

>> No.44854118

i change o go and mi to 御 on my cards

>> No.44854143

>>44854014
it does. the deck is for beginners and they wouldn't be able to parse the sentence with just the audio. it's a huge defect

>> No.44854157

>>44854107
Oh no, bros. I mined すべ in kana. What am I gonna do?

>> No.44854159
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this right here is why im learning nihongo

>> No.44854166

seriously why would anyone mine sube
there hasnt been a single time in my life where i was like oh shit what was sube again

>> No.44854171

>he whitenoises over it every time
sad

>> No.44854175

>>44854166
You could say the same thing about literally any word in the language.

>> No.44854182

literally any word in kana

>> No.44854193

>seriously why would anyone mine kawarakojiki
there hasnt been a single time in my life where i was like oh shit what was kawarakojiki again

>> No.44854199

>>44854182
なす術もない

>> No.44854214

there should be a name for the special kind of retards who think knowing a words pronunciation means you pretty much know the word

>> No.44854216
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>> No.44854223

you arent going to gain anything by looking at your sube card and saying "means" 10 times

>> No.44854239

>>44854223
people learn vocabulary from other languages using anki all the time

>> No.44854240

Piracy of untranslated japanese media is dying so by the time I learn enough to consume everything will be gone

>> No.44854259

>>44854223
you arent going to gain anything by looking at a sentence with sube in it and saying i know what it means 10 times

>> No.44854269

>>44854259
lol nice one

>> No.44854285

can you ever really truly understand a sentence if you dont have a flash card for every word in the sentence

>> No.44854472

>>44854285
Short term yes, long term no

>> No.44854518

god i fucking love srs

>> No.44854551

same
genuinely think dekinais are born from the people who get filtered by mining

>> No.44854568

>>44854285
youre going from implying one cant learn any kana word with a card to strawmanning others as flashtards asserting the much stronger statement that one cant learn any word without having a card for it, and youre doing that solely to distract from the boldness of your first claim because you knows its utterly indefensible when you consider that the original research which showed the usefulness of spaced repetition for learning vocabulary and thus motivated the development of supermemo and anki was on european languages which have no kanji

>> No.44854664
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>> No.44854722

>>44854568
>implying one cant learn any kana word with a card
wasnt my intent
but @ >>44854214 theres a lot more to "knowing" a word than memorizing a translation
you can memorize it means means and thats fine but i think its completely pointless for at least the majority of usually-kana words because theyre often extremely common and even when youre a complete beginner theyre often contextually obvious
if i thought anki was useless i wouldnt use it
i was saying why use it for easy shit which is why i took it to the extreme

>> No.44854736

>>44853762
still haven't finished my summer vinnie
>>44853952
get yomichan with jmnedict so you don't waste time in the future
>>44854056
you will inevitably see 魑魅魍魎 one day, but that doesn't mean you ought to spend one of your first 2k word learning credits on it. 煩い is like top 15k frequency, it's just dumb to spend time on things like that at a time when you can't recognize basically any 1000-2000 words
>>44854143
but you have both the text and the audio

>> No.44854794

The reason Cure Dolly teaches the passive form (e.g. 食べられる) as two separate entities made up of the verb (in renyoukei for ichidan verbs and a-stem for godan verbs) and the suffix (れる/られる) is not only to make it easier to understand the suffering passive, it's also because there are instances where XにYされた does NOT mean "Got Y-ed by X".

>> No.44854815

>>44854794
hate when anyone writes "there are counterexamples" and doesn't provide one

>> No.44854853

>there are instances where XにYされた does NOT mean "Got Y-ed by X"
such as?

>> No.44854910

jumping in here real quick just to say i also hate matt.

>> No.44854923

>>44854815
you can often prove something exists without having any examples to show

>> No.44854952

>>44854923
if you want to provide a proof without examples for what can occur in natural language i'd be prefer that because it sounds impressive

>> No.44854976

>>44854853
probably means verbs that use に like 顔につけらた or suffering passive like 愛猫に死なれた

>> No.44855025

>>44854976
>愛猫に死なれた
and? he got killed by his beloved cat, what's hard to get?

>> No.44855031

>>44855025
he died by his cat but his cat didnt kill him

>> No.44855069

>>44855025
yeah this anon is right >>44855031
because its 死 and なる, and we use なる when its a natural course of events

>> No.44855092

>he died by his cat
lmao

>> No.44855110

why is the に dropped in 死になる

>> No.44855117

>>44854952
sure take any dictionary it will have an entry for its longest word

>> No.44855134

>>44855117
dictionaries arent natural language

>> No.44855155

>>44855025
doesnt this mean "his beloved cat died on him"

>> No.44855174

>>44855110
because when you use に too many times in a row it sounds weird

>> No.44855198

>>44855134
the words can occur in natural language

>> No.44855201
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She's gotta be full of shit right?

>> No.44855215

djtは今日ゲイ

>> No.44855228

>>44855201
>im moving to dubai
>30k monthly

she is defecating on arab men

>> No.44855240

>>44855201
all passive income self help shit is written by poor people larping or rich people who just had their parents give them some apartment complexes

>> No.44855266

>>44855240
what makes you say that

>> No.44855293

>>44855266
because they all say things like if you have some spare cash consider buying an apartment complex and renting it out

>> No.44855299

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=9+passive+income+ideas

>> No.44855313

when did 9 become such a blessed number

>> No.44855323

its the most you can pack into a single digit

>> No.44855335

3 and 7 have more emotional and spiritual impact though
and also take less effort on the writers part

>> No.44855408

passive income just means that it doesnt mean you dont have to work for the rest of your life

>> No.44855415

>>44855293
i mean if you have a few millions of spare cash, that's not a bad idea

>> No.44855435

suffering passive income

>> No.44855446

lol

>> No.44855469

>>44855415
yeah but doesnt everyone know that

>> No.44855491

>>44855469
thats by your own choice of example

>> No.44855532

like dont you see its a self defeating argument you complain passive income is tied to wealth and income but that means it scales which is the whole idea

>> No.44855560

i have a few grand where can i buy a mini apartment complex that fits that budget

>> No.44855567

この話は日本語と何の関係ですか?

>> No.44855577

このスレは日本語と何の関係ですか?

>> No.44855663

おれにはわからないからないじゃないかっというわけにはいかない

>> No.44856050

>>44854159
source? download link?

>> No.44856245

love these 20 year old vns that mute the bgm every time you alt tab and theres no setting for it

>> No.44856347

you cant fix em after 18

>> No.44856361

https://streamable.com/b64khu
22

>> No.44856392

https://gamma.app/

someone make a djt guide website generated purely with this ai tool

>> No.44856601

>>44854166
i dont know even what sube is

>> No.44856612
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>>44856050
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/2643006

>> No.44856651

>>44856639
こまちゃんって言うなー!

>> No.44856676

人生日々勉強ですね

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44856685

i thought i heard 疑心暗鬼 as a jpn person trying to say githyanki and now i cant forget it, they are pretty suspicious afterall

>> No.44856689

人生万事塞翁が馬

>> No.44856694

How can I get good enough to read 3 kingdoms?

>> No.44856702

>>44856694
read as much as the first 2 kingdoms combined

>> No.44856705

san goku bu sou

>> No.44856707

>>44856694
step 1: learn chinese

>> No.44856788

Any where here actually read 3 kingdoms? or even good enough?

>> No.44856860

3 kingdoms? there is probably a rance game about that

>> No.44856891

kingdom hearts 3 wasnt that great

>> No.44856896

isnt dynasty warriors about that i played dw3 and dw4

>> No.44856909

パリピ孔明

>> No.44856925
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>> No.44856983

What's the difficulty of Hatoful Boyfriend?

>> No.44856993

i cant visualize words in my head
just comes up completely blank when i try to remember what simple words look like

>> No.44856996
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>>44856993
what about red apples?

>> No.44857007

>>44856993
why would you be able to recall what words look like if youve never exercised the skill of recalling what words look like

>> No.44857014

do 90 iqs really

>> No.44857036

>>44857007
idk but i have a reading speed of 200 wpm. this should be easier.

>> No.44857052

>>44857036
if you want to be able to visualize words you have to write
useless skill but thats how it is

>> No.44857057

not true i have never written japanese and can visualize them fine

>> No.44857060

bet u cant visualize kuchi

>> No.44857086

draw kanpeki from memory without checking

>> No.44857120

>>44857036
but reading goes in the reverse direction

>> No.44857175

I'm an uproot shill AMA

>> No.44857249

>>44854976
i thought suffering passive uses を

>> No.44857323

>>44855201
>>44855228
yep typical hapa whore...

>> No.44857325

>>44857175
what is uproot? shill it for me.

>> No.44857338

>>44857052
>being able to write is a useless skill

>> No.44857361

>>44857338
being able to visualize words is a useless skill
being able to write is only useful if you live in japan

>> No.44857369

>>44856501
his gravity is just that much *snickers*

>> No.44857407

>>44857361
if you can visualize something, recognizing it and differentiating it becomes easier
being able to write is useful if you want to take notes in japanese(which works as good language practice)
if you wrote anything in eng, you can then write it all in jpn

>> No.44857418

>>44853773
no it wasnt

>> No.44857424

>>44857407
being a means to the end of being better at japanese doesnt really make it inherently useful

>> No.44857449

>>44857424
well yeah i agree that knowing how to write in japanese in another country is not generally useful

>> No.44857452

what's the best way to practice writing? no shilling paid shit please.

>> No.44857469

>>44857452
no one hear can write in japanese

>> No.44857474

>>44857469
i cant write in english either

>> No.44857481

>>44857325
Ummm, well ... a while ago matt vs japan made this thing called 'project uproot' with ken cannon. It was basically a pitch accent course. It was controversial for being a 'scam'. Bunch of people practically disowned matt but then almost all of them made dumber courses they shill. Like Refold making an 'Ultimate Immersion Course'. Pretty hypocritical. It was expensive , I don't remember what it cost off hand ( like hundreds of dollars though he kept discounting it before you actually paid for it) but it wasn't as much as a lot of normie language classes that make you spend thousands of dollars for stuff that doesn't even work. I'm not a master of pitch accent or anything and he is super inconsistent with it but I do feel I have an edge over people who don't know any pitch accent. It was like reading tae kim, you don't become a master of grammar but you have an edge over people who did no grammar at all, and at some point it has diminishing returns. No idea when he will release anything to non-uproot members -_(シ)_-

>> No.44857498

>>44857452
write it down 50 fucking times every day in between dangerous amounts of alcohol

>> No.44857513

>>44857498
with what? paper and pencil? stfu shill I'm not made out of money to buy that shit.

>> No.44857522

uproot was made irrelevant by sakkon

>> No.44857527

>>44857522
what's sakkon?

>> No.44857537

sakkon these nuts lmao

>> No.44857541

>>44857513
smear shit on the walls or piss in the snow

>> No.44857553

>>44857481
>It was controversial for being a 'scam'
why the quotes
it was as classic as it gets
join an exclusive mailing list to hear the high price
people who paid were continuously upsold higher and higher priced packages
matt recorded talking about how his brilliant friends told him all you have to do is aim for whales and youll be set for life
refold is just what matts previous scam business partner made and the only reason matt isnt a part of it is because his mom told him hes not allowed to give anyone else shares in his name so why would you expect it to be any better
matt chose the name and commissioned the logo for refold

>> No.44857570

I think dogen's patreon is the best pitch accent resource available ( in english ), If you already know japanese there are probably better resources idk, but by then you probably going to have to undo a lot bad habits/misunderstandings. So pay dogen like 5 bucks or whatever and also skip all the general pronunciation stuff

>> No.44857577

>>44857541
thats a waste of food and beverages

>> No.44857581

>>44857570
theres a torrent of it

>> No.44857593

>>44857553
A scam, eh. Over priced maybe. Crummy tactics yes. I got what I paid for. A pitch accent course. I thought it was well made overall, and I don't think it is worth it for everybody but it was something I was interested in and there really isn't a comprehensive pitch accent resource for beginners in Japanese. Except for sakkon of course.

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I still don't fully understand できる. Can be? Possible? Able to make? Manage? My brain just fails to process it. I am probably too retarded for this language.

>> No.44857619

dekinai

>> No.44857620

>>44857607
im a beginner myself, i dont think about it much, possible/able to do is a good enough definition of it. a word in japanese is not going to match 1:1 with english words

>> No.44857633

>>44857620
I know the translation, or I let those pile up, but when I see the word in sentence where I "know" all the components, there is no message I understand. It's just blank. I might have different problem that's in me.

>> No.44857649

>>44857593
that sounds like a classic cope to avoid feeling buyers remorse
didnt even remember it being about pitch accent but isnt dogen like $5 i have a hard time believing matt put 1/100th as much effort in as that
alternatively just buy the 2 pitch accent dictionaries that everyone is referring to and read the appendices yourself (think dogen did more research than that but i guarantee you matt didnt)
but it sounds like you fell for the "youd better obsess over pitch accent from day one before you can read anything in japanese" so dogen is the only option

>> No.44857693

>>44857633
i have the same issue with anything that lacks visual or other kinds of context. i gave up on trying to read lns for now

>> No.44857701

gaining hunters want you to have an accent, it is cute and part of the appeal
dont fall for bitch accent if you want pussy

>> No.44857767

>>44857607
the more you seeing a word in different contexts, the more you can grasp its meaning. try context reverso. at least it works great for me

>> No.44857787

https://www.twitch.tv/usa_miharu

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>> No.44857802

>>44857767
Yeah, I keep reading daily, just doujins, though i moved from porn to nonh and those can get pretty hard. But I feel like i am much stupider than the minimal requirements for japanese are.

>> No.44857810

>>44857649
>>44857701
Pitch accent is not that important, but like learning Japanese isn't that important? You don't have to learn stroke order, kanji, hiragana, keigo, katakana, kotowaza, vocab, etc. I like learning Japanese, it's my hobby --- I use to think that Japanese was
going to be my escape, that it was going to be the answer to my problems. It stressed me out to do anki and immersion. But then I let go of the thought that I was going to do anything with Japanese in my life. Then it became fun again. I paid for a niche information in my hobby that I was interested in. Would I pay for it now, maybe not idk. But I don't regret. Is that a cope idk lol

>> No.44857816

whats the writing equivalent of kino and ludo
naro?

>> No.44857857

i know what 用向き means but i don't get it intuitively, i always read it as "the content of your business/purpose"

>> No.44857865

>>44853749
Is Duolingo worth using or just a waste of time?

>> No.44857872

>>44857802
then please just keep going if you feel you can do it. that's totally fine. no pain, no gain

>> No.44857921

>>44857872
I don't remember struggling with English this much. It really is one of the easiest languages on Earth.

>> No.44857936

>>44857921
Native language?

>> No.44857959

>>44857936
esl

>> No.44858001

>>44857959
English as Second Language? Not the question. English might be easier because it's closer to your native language like for example spanish or french. The other possibility if english is farther away and somehow are closer to japanese like chinese or korean, then you probably just had more exposure to english.

>> No.44858062

dont think chinese is close to japanese at all its just like if you did rtk and rtk was actually good because they can already reliably differentiate like 6000 characters and relate them to words

>> No.44858072

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiW9V9PQrVg

>> No.44858089

>>44857865
waste of time

>> No.44858094

It's easier for japanese to learn chinese and vice versa. Japanese has words that come from chinese because history even if there not technically 'in the same language family' they might as well be 'related'

>> No.44858100

Maybe I am stupid. Maybe there is something about Japanese people that makes them smarter so they can use their incredibly chaotic language.

>> No.44858111

>>44858100
being forced to use it everyday and not spending all their time talking to *nglish speakers

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I don't watch anime.

>> No.44858128

>>44858100
If they were smarter then they wouldn't have so much trouble with english.

>> No.44858144

>>44858072
I've seen some extremely beautiful German rural areas in southern Germany.
Images can't capture the magical feeling of moving through a foreign forest, just to meet a tiny village or rows of houses on the other side.

Not the biggest fan of the people, though. Northern Germans are much better people, while Southern Germans are much nicer people.

>> No.44858146

>>44858072
the winner

>> No.44858157

>>44858128
their english teachers permanently cripple them while theyre still too young to think for themselves

>> No.44858260

>>44858128
I don't know why. English is almost primitive. And you can talk most broken English and people still understand you. You can't do that with Japanese. I have no idea how I am supposed to practice it.

>> No.44858349

>>44858121
Where to watch? Recommendations?

>> No.44858368

>>44858144
austria is better

>> No.44858370

>>44858349
dailymotion, it's one of his more popular movies, i doubt i will find a way to watch his untranslated work even if i understood them without subs

>> No.44858383

https://streamable.com/lu7poh
how it feels to be the last remaining 140 iq on djt

>> No.44858440

>>44858383
>old thing nobody cares about
yeah, seems about right

>> No.44858497

>>44858440
anime has declined

>> No.44858499
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>>44858383
because of low iq, I was lured by goddess pantsu... desu

>> No.44858525

>>44858089
Why? What's wrong with it?

>> No.44858531

>>44858525
it's a scam

>> No.44858534

finna get bennies

>> No.44858547

>>44858531
Is it just because of the cost? A friend sent me a cracked version that gives you everything for free, this is why I'm asking if it's worth getting into.

>> No.44858561

>>44858547
it turns flashcards into a shitty game and has no relevance to language acquisition

>> No.44858598

>>44857607
you use it when a new store opens too that one stumped me at first

>> No.44858602

>>44858440
not a good look lil pup we respect gineiden here

>> No.44858643

>>44858602
You never help anybody anyway, so why you want being respected?

>> No.44858648

>>44858383
dont know how much of that dudes voice i could handle

>> No.44858655

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/BE0X7aX4lvQ
rattattatta horny?

>> No.44858672

https://youtu.be/pgXpM4l_MwI?t=64
those esls did it again

>> No.44858760

https://youtu.be/7UubKYqEy3s?t=15

>> No.44858788

>>44857498
dumb nigga buy a tablet, infinite paper nigga lmao

>> No.44858817

>>44857513
>>44857513
damn i fucked up it was supposed to be reply to this :( im retarded

>> No.44858837

i havent used paper in years shits expensive erasing is slow then you have to throw it away and it takes up too much room in the trash oh and pens and pencils dont last for shit also typing is way faster

>> No.44858847

>>44857513
get the buddha board
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdGdfIRKLDI

i think its 40 bucks or so
bonus points for drawing with a brush

>> No.44858889

the cleanse approaches

>> No.44858901
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44858901

>>44858655
>>44858672
>>44858760

>> No.44858905

lil pup lmao

>> No.44858971
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Pathetic.
Modern japanese does NOT use つまづく.
Whoever wrote this deck should commit 切腹.

>> No.44859082

>>44858971
woah thats pretty damning but i think its even more questionable that you caught it

>> No.44859091

core 2kripple6kripple deck

>> No.44859095

huh

>> No.44859102
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>> No.44859106

>>44859082
It came up in an older manga before, so I ended up learning the 'lore'.
Anyway, IIRC the づ~ず changes date more than 50 years.

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>> No.44859189

>>44859102
i miss him

>> No.44859206

>>44859106
for some reason i thought there were more exceptions than there are but its actually pretty simple huh

>> No.44859253

>>44857921
yeah because you had lower expectations of progress. I also don't remember struggling with english, and yet I also distinctly remember playing an mmo in english in 4th/5th grade and learning what "I will" and "you shall not" mean from chat messages when I already had a few 100s of hours of interacting with english behind me.

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>> No.44859267

every day i have to struggle to not let it go to my head

>> No.44859274
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>>44859262

>> No.44859275

>>44859262
https://streamable.com/nqtfkx

>> No.44859297

醍醐味
大ゴミ

>> No.44859316

learning japanese just in time for them to make english their official language

>> No.44859330

>>44859275
How does this not sound like weebs sprinkling in random japanese to them? It sounds really cringe

>> No.44859342

>>44857789
Lolicon?

>> No.44859349

>>44859330
english is cool
america is cool
lets idealize them so much we pretend to be them

such is the way of all shithole nations

>> No.44859351

>>44859342
Huh? What? No.
rorikon

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I no longer have a reason to study nihongo because translators are good enough and with what I did study I am more than capable of fixing the mistakes it makes on my own with high enough confidence. I wish I didn't rely on translators as a crutch so much but I just have no strong enough reason to not use them.

>> No.44859362

feels good man

>> No.44859368

>>44859349
https://streamable.com/61tfto

>> No.44859375

vtumer opinion discarded

>> No.44859388

>>44859375
https://streamable.com/tk3c9s

>> No.44859397

>>44859388
69M

>> No.44859401

what did 2016 djt look like

>> No.44859406

>>44859359
Conflicting statement. One of these clauses isn't true

>> No.44859412

"wow anon, you seem to have the absolute command of a genius expert. please tell me how you studied!"
what do you say

>> No.44859422

>>44859412
https://streamable.com/qzq3s1

>> No.44859433

>>44859412
Show them my eroge collection

>> No.44859462

>>44859412
i actually had this happen when i was i japan twice
both times i said that it was 独学 and that it didn't feel like studying because i read and watched japanese stuff that i liked and over the years got good that way and they were like なるほどね! and that was that

>> No.44859476

>>44859412
"u sound mad bro"

>> No.44859480

>>44859412
100 spaced repetition reps, 100 new Kanji learned, 100 hours of listening practice and 1000km of writing Kanji. Every. Single. Day.

>> No.44859502

kyou ha djt ga lively des ne

>> No.44859509

>>44859359
ok y u here then

>> No.44859514

>>44859509
Dunno, was hoping something would happen to change my mind I guess...

>> No.44859572

>>44859262
>this is what they meant by ボボボーボ・ボーボボ

>> No.44859584

>>44859502
>djt ga lively
ngmi

>> No.44859587

self own

>> No.44859590

>>44859514
dno anyone who says translation is good enough is either braindamaged or coping beyond salvation just hope its the former so you can enjoy it

>> No.44859594

>>44859590
You readlet retard.

>> No.44859599

>>44859590
will you ever stop being wrong

>> No.44859608

hes right

>> No.44859610

no he isn't

>> No.44859612

>>44859599
Do you even have enough reading comprehension to learn Japanese?

>> No.44859620

no hes right im right

>> No.44859625

glad im not pathetic enough to have my life revolve around understanding japanese

>> No.44859627

...right

>> No.44859635

>>44859253
this is the real reason why children learn languages better

>> No.44859648

glad im not pathetic enough to have my life revolve around understanding japanese
i posted in the daily japanese thread
a place i once visited with enthusiasm about my new hobby as i hoped to one day also understand japanese
but that dream is behind me now

>> No.44859652

>>44859648
why'd your dream die anon?

>> No.44859656

I believe a dream can still come true
Why shouldn't I believe the same in you?

>> No.44859658

>>44859587
is this what i think it is

>> No.44859661

>>44859359
https://streamable.com/o1q1ij

>> No.44859663

d'you guys think meisou girl will ever come back

>> No.44859662

世界中の日本語の勉強の夢
叶え

>> No.44859664

at no point was japanese my life im no cringe ass bitch

>> No.44859666

she cant post anymore she gets too worked up

>> No.44859672

>>44859658
is it ever

>> No.44859673

don't care

>> No.44859676

the fabled
>i-its grammatically correct

>> No.44859680

t. the not so fabled 110

>> No.44859682

im not that old

>> No.44859697

>>44859275
>https://streamable.com/nqtfkx
sauce?

>> No.44859702

i don't understand "onii-chan". the o is making it respectful, right? but the -chan is looking down on, right? how can both of these things be true

>> No.44859704

there's this real handy thing called an archive that might be able to help

>> No.44859708

>>44859514
If you're hoping that, that's already proof enough you aren't content with it but whatever. You overestimate translators in their current form, even if you feel you can "fix their mistakes" there are simply some things that they cannot ever hope to translate properly. And considering you're at the level to where you use them as a crutch, I wouldn't trust yourself with having the ability to understand in its place either.
Yes, I do believe one day they will be able to replicate fluent human comprehension perfectly in their translation decision making, and maybe even somehow be better. But that's just not now. If you really intend on relying on that future, or if all you ever care about is simply consuming moege instead of more complex media, then go on ahead.

You'd think progressing into learning will actually decrease one's tolerance for translators, as they start to realize the nuance between the language and how in the end it really is two different works you're experiencing. Yet here you are clearly fine with talking to the mediator instead of directly speaking to the author himself. Some crazy confidence you have there. "Don't worry Mr. Translator, I definitely won't misunderstand your communication between us because I know the author personally and what he'd be meaning to say!" When you can't even talk to the author yourself.

>> No.44859721

kind of a bad post

>> No.44859726

>>44859661
so did this guy ever make it

>> No.44859730

if jamal were here he would say you have aids

>> No.44859742

is he even a doctor

>> No.44859749

self-diagnosed aids

>> No.44859750

that was jamal?

>> No.44859757

https://japaneseasmr.com/?orderby=post_views&order=desc
time for my daily listening practice

>> No.44859770

>>44859702
>the -chan is looking down on, right?
>dude trust me learning from context never fails

>> No.44859774

https://japaneseasmr.com/101875/
yosh time for listening practice

>> No.44859783

how would anyone think that from context

>> No.44859785

>>44859708
>or if all you ever care about is simply consuming moege instead of more complex media, then go on ahead.
That's the entire reason I began learning japanese in the first place.

>> No.44859786

>>44859708
>even if you feel you can "fix their mistakes" there are simply some things that they cannot ever hope to translate properly
give sentence and context where this is true

>> No.44859791

>>44859785
kind of based desu

>> No.44859792

djt arguing for its own extinction

>> No.44859795

>>44859783
they wouldn't that is just pure textbook gibberish

>> No.44859801

>>44859783
he sees it used in a teasing manner?

>> No.44859806

kinda like a certain real group wink wink nudge nudge

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>>44859730
wonder if he could solve this faster than me

>> No.44859815
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wut

>> No.44859816

can you please reply to the people you're replying to

>> No.44859818

>>44859816
just this once for you

>> No.44859819

>>44859816
ok will do

>> No.44859820

it's 1 right

>> No.44859826

you arent allowed to write down anything btw

>> No.44859827

>>44859786
tuki ga kirei desune

>> No.44859831

the moon is ugly as fuck you stupid bitch

>> No.44859833

>>44859827
Any idiot would understand what that means in the context of the situation it's being spoken.

>> No.44859837

>>44859812
3

>> No.44859838

>>44859786
pan ga tabetai

>> No.44859839

the fuck is wrong with the moon you whore

>> No.44859849

read 512k today

>> No.44859850

>>44859837
+2 if it took under 10 seconds +1 for 10-20 seconds 0 for longer

>> No.44859851

core512k

>> No.44859856

suspicious that iq anon is making the scoring up

>> No.44859860

dunno im just tired of talking about iq every day i wanna talk about matts bald head

>> No.44859864

>>44859833
and yet they dont

>> No.44859867

>>44853773
What's that in a civilised unit of measurement?

>> No.44859870

>>44859856
no its based on clinical trials

>> No.44859874

>>44859867
subtract 30 and divide by 2 lil bro

>> No.44859878

>>44857865
It's not only a waste of time, it's a scam.

>> No.44859886

personally i wish anki would let me buy streak recovery every weekend

>> No.44859888

>>44859886
all you need is on your pc just hack the databases to add reviews on the missed day

>> No.44859893

>>44857865
No. There's a dude who spent 800 hrs in Duolingo and regrets it. It's on yt

>> No.44859894

>>44859874
estimate the ratio of errors for 80:160 F if you actually have to subtract 32 then divide by 9 and multiply by 5

>> No.44859900

>>44859893
its funny how that guy learned english through basically immersion but when its time for japanese he predictably switches to the duolingo route

>> No.44859932

>>44859850
what is the difficulty level supposed to be

>> No.44859935

>>44859932
140-145 under those time limits

>> No.44859954

>>44859935
how high can you score now

>> No.44859962

>>44859954
what do you mean

>> No.44859979

>>44859962
on an iq test

>> No.44859986

>>44859979
about as high as i could when i was 16

>> No.44859990

>>44859986
i thought practice works

>> No.44860000

went from 108 to a reliable 120 on average over the course of 8 years

>> No.44860005

>>44860000
thats impressive how many hours did it take though

>> No.44860012

dno

>> No.44860017

>>44859990
its the same as what i can reconstruct using standardized testing data from school and university

>> No.44860020

>>44860012
do you feel it was worth the time investment

>> No.44860025

feel pretty retarded so no

>> No.44860047

afraid to take an iq test ever since i realized i wasnt a genius

>> No.44860048

in 10 years seifuku will be a relic of the past that don't exist in anime anymore and that will be sad

>> No.44860057

on the up side no more gakuran

>> No.44860058

don't do it bro

>> No.44860072

>>44860000
familiarizing yourself with the problem types invalidates your scores and it would be obvious that you are around 108 if you took a comprehensive clinical test
the test should ideally only be taken once in your life and twice only if you first tested when you were not an adult

>> No.44860075

cope

>> No.44860078

why dont japanese students earn cloth badges to sew into their uniforms

>> No.44860106

>uhhhhhh you can't just improve your abstract thinking over a period of time and have that improvement reflect on your test scores
>something something inborn something something g-loading something something invalidates your scores
maybe the blackies are somewhat right, this does seem to be a bit of a scam

>> No.44860110

>>44860075
lol you know a clinical test is nothing like the online ones right there are so many unknown and difficult tasks that you are guaranteed to get exposed

>> No.44860117

https://ravens-2-progressive-matrices-clinical-edition.netlify.app/
cope

>> No.44860128

i remember back in 2005 when people thought they had 140 iq because they could handle transitive properties in sentences in a 20 question quiz

>> No.44860144

>>44860117
matrix puzzles count toward like 10% of your final score and are the most prone to score increase by practice
its not surprising that the kind of person scoring 108 is the same kind of person who would believe they became 120 by memorizing patterns

>> No.44860153

stfu

>> No.44860165

>>44853914
beginners can't read the sentences anyway, even if you finish the whole deck you wouldn't understand most of the sentences even if they had furigana

>> No.44860202

whats up with this youtube adblock thing are they gonna stop letting me watch videos eventually

>> No.44860222

youtube hasnt had good videos in years so not like you are losing anything

>> No.44860225
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Day 137: Today I feel like kinda blitz through the session but like I have 102 cards and only 18 minutes.

>> No.44860228

watch stuff on niconico douga instead

>> No.44860229
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and sure enough its a ridiculously easy garbage test
you need to stop stroking your ego and take a clinical test with a professional psychologist to know if you really are 120

>> No.44860246

>>44860229
what's the logic on that one

>> No.44860253

>>44860246
number of vertices if they are the same

>> No.44860259

>おわします
u wot m8

>> No.44860260

>>44860253
infuriatingly obvious in hindsight

>> No.44860263

>>44860259
get a j-j dictionary

>> No.44860270

i got 141 on an online test when i was 13

>> No.44860279

>>44860229
now do https://web.archive.org/web/20100122211331/http://www.cerebrals.com/tests/tri/TRI52.html

>> No.44860327

>Card order is now sorted by average frequency of vn, narou, and bccwj
whats narou whats bccwj

>> No.44860332

convert to percentile with https://web.archive.org/web/20091229185320/http://www.cerebrals.com/tests/tri/Classeur1.pdf

>> No.44860353

https://www.google.com/search?q=narou
https://www.google.com/search?q=bccwj

>> No.44860361

i'm a little suprised that just searching "narou" brings you to the website as the first result

>> No.44860367

i just dont know bros

>> No.44860403

tfw confirmed 97th percentile midwit

>> No.44860407

tfw 86er

>> No.44860415

>>44860361
well it's in top 200 websites in the world

>> No.44860423

tfw 69er

>> No.44860430

you should have mentioned that its age corrected so entering garbage will make the score useless

>> No.44860440

にがっ

>> No.44860445

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e59A0flB1iY

>> No.44860455

>>44859827
>DeepL: The moon is beautiful.
>GPT4: The moon is beautiful, isn’t it? / I love you.
>>44859838
>DeepL: I want bread.
>GPT4: I want to eat bread.

Hmm, seems as though you arguments against machine translation are a little weak.

>> No.44860465

>I want to eat bread
>I want bread
both wrong

>> No.44860473

fail

>> No.44860477

i am eat-want-received by bread

>> No.44860480

>>44860465
>lowercase doesn't know japanese
kek

>> No.44860486

sorry bro neither of those capture the nuance of that sentence properly

>> No.44860495

bread is eat wantable for me

>> No.44860496

>japanese
>nuance
lmao

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>>44860279
a much better test but it is still only assessing visual reasoning if you take a clinical test you will be made to do all kinds of different tasks to get a holistic profile

>> No.44860503

how does iq anon do it

>> No.44860507

i kneel

>> No.44860552

>>44860503
>>44860507
i know people who could do better than me
keep in mind when you take a clinical test there will almost surely be other tasks you will not be good at which will bring down your final score

>> No.44860553

cant imagine the iq quiz fanclub group chats

>> No.44860558

can't imagine caring

>> No.44860561

maybe we should call him quizmaster

>> No.44860571

basically take what you get on these online tests and subtract 10
you can confidently say your score is that or maybe a bit higher

>> No.44860575

generate a random number between 1 and 80 and add 80 to it there's your iq bro

>> No.44860579

thank god i made it over 120

>> No.44860652

wonder what moe scored

>> No.44860661

on the jlpt

>> No.44860667

quiz still wins with a 169

>> No.44860698

69M

>> No.44860710

>>44857789
what book is this?

>> No.44860712

forgot to add i hate analcream

>> No.44860715

obsessed + rent free + hate in your heart

>> No.44860717

boner in my pants

>> No.44860723

can a hateboner be gay

>> No.44860727

me after 1 hour nuking

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>>44858971
i mined that word last week while i was watching non non biyori

>> No.44860731

thinking about anime titties

>> No.44860733

now mine 跪く

>> No.44860753

mining is for peasants

>> No.44860776

peasants are good people

>> No.44860789

*self proclaimed

>> No.44860805

should have been a quant

>> No.44860825

its a stressful job

>> No.44860846

>>44860728
Oh hey I mined it the same sentence except reading Non Non Biyori back in May.

>> No.44860957

you know that "Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo" sentence? this is what kana-only readers are doing to themselves

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>you know that "Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo" sentence? this is what kana-only readers are doing to themselves

>> No.44860966

dont be rude

>> No.44860967

sorry

>> No.44861000

>>44860957
People love to pretend the buffalo sentence doesn't exist in English whenever they bring up うらにわにわにわにわにわにわにわとりがいる as a reason for kanji being necessary. They never acknowledge that kana-only sentences are written with spaces for clarity.

>> No.44861075

kanada yakara ga kanada ga kana ka kana janakatta ka wakaranakatta ga kakanakattanda

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another innocent japanese learner crippled by romaji.

>> No.44861139

sheash

>> No.44861142

yall

>> No.44861144

Why the dash? That's not in the Japanese word

>> No.44861147

>>44861000
you would never say either of these things so anyone using them as an argument why the language needs anything is low iq

>> No.44861152

>maji resu
embarrassing

>> No.44861158

always gets crazy when people forget that spoken language and written language diverge

>> No.44861189

artistic kana fuligana on top of kana lmfao

>> No.44861205

oreimo killed anime
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJxedFvbSBQ

>> No.44861225

row row row maji

>> No.44861249

row row fight da power

>> No.44861347

brehs whys this shit dead

>> No.44861353

no newbie questions in a while

>> No.44861355

u should speak lil bro

>> No.44861356
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44861356

it's independent reading time lil guy

>> No.44861365

awful color combination

>> No.44861378

djtは今日はつまらない

>> No.44861390

We need QuizMaster to stream again and save DJT

>> No.44861412

only thing that can save djt is crispr catgirls

>> No.44861430

>>44861347
everyone left to post in エロゲスレ

>> No.44861431

lol bet they're having a good time with all the learner questions

>> No.44861439

hey if the kids wanna read kanon cuz of a show let them

>> No.44861602

>>44861144
To account for the double vowel length in ローマ.

>> No.44861698

checked the eroge sure and i guess i was wrong it seems mostly on-topic

>> No.44861780

djt has shite taste

>> No.44861889

bros when does it get easier
i'm going on SSRIs soon because major depression and i'm hoping that it helps me be more motivated, but also reading is just hard. having to look up every other word kinda sucks
i get really happy when i can read words but really sad when i can't
t. halfway through 2.3k deck but fell off half a month ago because i couldn't drag myself out of bed for anything other than food and showers and shit

>> No.44861900

dunno man get well soon lil dude

>> No.44861901

>>44861889
>bros when does it get easier
when you stop caring

>> No.44861909

>>44861901
fug X(

>> No.44861916

>>44861909
its the easiest thing to do
your brains going to do what its going do whether you care or not

>> No.44861955

>>44861916
honestly really good point
gonna do my best to remember this when i get my meds, thanks anon

>> No.44861962

>>44861900
oh shit sorry i missed your post. thanks for the well wishes

>> No.44861992

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6870640/

>> No.44862003

>>44861602
Huh, I've never actually looked up romaji in the dictionary. Didn't realize the just tacked on ji to the end of Rome. But since ー is just katakana vowel extension wouldn't it be romaaji instead?

>> No.44862009

according to some, it's "romanji"

>> No.44862032

>>44862009
That's bizarre. There's no ん or ン character in the word, though

>> No.44862037

>>44862032
i always thought it was because english speakers who don't know japanese subconsciously add the n to turn the unfamiliar "roma" into the more familiar "roman"

>> No.44862039

>>44862037
NTA but that's what i did
i didn't realize it was romaji till my sister made fun of me for saying it wrong lol

>> No.44862109

>>44862039
in hindsight one of the biggest tells that namasensei wasn't very qualified should've been that he says "romanji", if i remember correctly he even tries to write ろまんじ on the board once

>> No.44862131

lots of hindsighting today

>> No.44862135

looking back to the past to make a better future

>> No.44862153

So apparently 「石上十年」is a famous karate saying... Any idea what the hell it means? I know the literal meaning of these kanji but I don't get it put together.

>> No.44862154

while missing the present

>> No.44862158

what present

>> No.44862192

>>44862153
Looks like it could be a shorthand way to write 石の上にも十年 which itself seems to be a play on the proverb 石の上にも三年

>> No.44862248

>>44862192
Oh, I think you're right! Thanks anon. Mas Oyama wrote this next to some of his signatures and Google Translate was useless telling me what it might mean.

>> No.44862254

>anons are sitting on stones to warm them up as we speak

>> No.44862269

>>44862254
your shit is hot enough to burn through the stone in three years

>> No.44862282

taking proverbs and removing all the kanji to make them look cooler to the general public

>> No.44862285

meant the kana

>> No.44862298

make it all katakana to make it look extra cool

>> No.44862313

のにも

>> No.44862350

>>>/int/188268131

can you solve this

>> No.44862354

i cannot

>> No.44862378

>>44862350
liberty

>> No.44862422

i fucking hate matt so much

>> No.44862439

>>44862350
The subject is women, obviously.

>> No.44862486

>>44862439
why?

>> No.44862509

>>44862486
Because the sentence is about women

>> No.44862516

>>44862509
that's not what a grammatical subject is
the structure of the sentence is (subject) (to be) (adjective)
the subject is liberty and enjoyment
the adjective is granted
to women and in no other country are prepositional phrases so they're grammatically irrelevant

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