/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>未 and 末 are two different symbols
the japanese must pay for their crimes

i went on a goon search and got lost and now the suns down

>>44823022
That's fucked up

>>44823022
read these 容易く to be fair tho

bros i want a burrito at this mexican place near my house but the cashier is very cute and im scare of her

>>44823039
Did you cum?

training dumbasses at work but they care

>>44823106
yes but i edged to long going on the search and ruined it like always it never feels good
https://kemono.su/fanbox/user/4569857/post/2852506

>>44823022
you mean chinamen
also don't look:
出岀

to what extent can reading more cover for not using anki? if i've done 2.3k is it practical to learn by reading from here on?

it covers a
wide spectrum

read + anki

>>44823132
Last time i gooned i came to this

>>44823173
imagine the look on your father's face

>>44823187
weird kink bro

>>44823166
do you use anki for your native language?

>>44823166
Nothing. You should always add new words you encounter into Anki. You’ll save yourself a lot of time in the long run.
>>44823207
We’d all be more well spoken and well read individuals if we did.

anki makes you dumb

>>44823253
given you're the least persuasive person in the history of /djt/ i'm gonna go ahead and doubt you on that.

owned

dudes in their 30s who should be having families spending 10% of their life on flashcards and talking about them

the people who fall for it shouldnt be having families

曲時ね
What the songs you most enjoy and helped learn japanese, not necessarily animu related

This is one that I also like,
Its like the "come to Japan" hymn

>>44823262
>>44823268
>>44823275
>>44823279
>>44823299
I love it. I love all of you people. I love how a simple flash card program is too much. You can’t handle memorizing a few words. You must constantly parade your idiocy like the lemmings you are. You have no argument, no reason, no basis for why you don’t want to use the program other than pure unadulterated laziness. You people are like sheep. The blind leading the blind. You use straw mans and anecdotes about how it “cripples” your “acquisition,” as if you had any argument to begin with.
Well, I’m sick of it. I’m sick of all of this. I’m done pretending like you people aren’t anything other than bunch of, and I’m sorry that I’m saying this, RETARDS!
Okay, I’m done. Go back to your hatred of LEARNING.

>>44823356
Don't waste time on retard dekinais
its obvious if they(probably samefag) spend all their waking time shitposting here, they aren't actually doing shit

>>44823376
kek, very true

tl note: "ki ni nagare," he says to himself

>>44823383
Who said this? QM?

>>44823356
u sound mad bro

>>44823392
I’m very mad

watasi no namae wa kenny nagare

>>44823469
are wa dare da

hello ken sama

劔様? kinda heggin based

yep made up kanji words are just awesome

>he thinks its made up
bro your name immersion...

>>44823356
bro you write retarded spergouts here instead of reading and shit on people who read and look stuff up.
fuck off outta here

>>44823668
>and shit on people who read and look stuff up.
Nice straw man, “bro.”

>and I’m sorry that I’m saying this, RETARDS
dno how anyone can read this and not think yeah thats a 3/10 joke post nice try though the thread really does need something funny

>>44823689
>9/10 half-serious post**

>dno how anyone can read this
ya but you see i didnt

>he spreads his anki throughout the day
oh no no no

>dno how anyone can read
we can’t

japanese.... was a mistake

watch out for anon at 8 am he has a 100% breakdown rate

>>44823703
very based anki user showing these gremlins a thing or two about studying

>>44823709

so, this is the power of studying comedians...

>>44823703
never woken up before 12 in my life

>>44823718
he looks like hes ripping a rank one

>>44823733
already posted >>44823002

i think that reddit post even used the same wording he probably copied and pasted the whole tweet lmfao

rec me a spooky halloween anime or manga

btw if that ever happens to you dont stutter and apologize just say いつもはかわいくないな

stfu og

>>44823762
this, but without the な

>>44823757
*consults MAL*
oh yes... you're looking for cossette no shouzou

right then and there choke her for questioning your authority

>>44823782
>6.79
sasuga

I was rewatching some of Dolly sensei videos because she answers some interesting questions in the comment section, and damn.

>>44823785
ok here you go then nerd https://myanimelist.net/topanime.php

wtf that doesn't even have a 7 on mal

it's too intelligent and esoteric for the unwashed mal trannies

6 in 2004 is higher than 6 today but not sure how much

at least 1

someone should chart mal inflation over time

6.79 should be higher by a smaller amount

are zoomers more liberal with the 10s or something because anime is more mainstream now
while older millenials and gen x think they are esoteric gatekeepers and their max rating is a 5

something like that

4bro said the same thing
>>39829026

>>44823010
not a good OP, I'll be sitting this thread out, see you in the next one

dno but fma is 8.11 and fmab is 9.10 that should tell you everything you need to know

nah its like how ign rates everything a 9 or 10
with all the hype, things become too big to fail so everyone feels the need to rate even dogshit highly because it has to be good

>>44823829
cant blame you but i just scrolled down

>>44823827
>zoomer complaining about zoomers

>>44823829
unko is just mad i keep calling him a boring lolcow

thats just a fact though

>>44823858
holy shit its beautiful

>>44823858
so this is the power of a 1600/1600 satchad...

yeah

paul allen said bill gates was a slimy backstabbing snake

>>44823858
So I was thinking about the rating phenomenon where 7 is average... something like:
Bad 1-6, average 7, good 8, great 9, perfect 10.
I think it's human nature.
We have more distinction to make about things we will consume than things we won't.
Like try rating the following food: a pile of vomit, horse turds, chicken Alfredo with so much salt you'll gag.
The rating is this: I won't eat any of this. Once it's in the "bad" zone it doesn't matter what number it gets is.
there is some nuance among things you will consume.
But only enough to fill like the top few slots of x/10.
But autism demands 10 because numerology.
And then from there people think 5 should be average because it's in the middle.
When an honest review should never rate anything 10 because that means perfect which is impossible. So that leaves just 4 valid slots.
Ebert and Siskel did something like this, 1 negative possibility (thumbs down) and 2 positive possibilities (1 thumb or 2 thumbs up)
They also did "See It/Skip It/Rent It" which is basically the same thing but kinda goes more towards answering the question the "on the fence" consumer wants answered.

Personally I like the binary rating scale the best, like steam. "Would you recommend this? Yes/no".
There are nuances that aren't captured with that, but also I don't think those nuances are captured well by a 1-10 scale either.
Thinking about it more.... Maybe reviewers that use the x out of 10 system actually aren't targeting the audience of people that are on the fence.
I think rotten tomatoes attempts to translate x/10 reviews to bad, good, and "certified fresh" but I'm not sure how accurate the conversion is.
I think it's kinda true that reviews themselves are a form of media for people to consume and how that influences people isn't always straightforward as "bad means don't buy it".

>>44823875
jordan peterson said there is no correlation between virtue and iq

virtuous people are low iq because they get taken advantage of by people like peterson

a 10 is a sign of respect for the greatest works of the medium. a piece of art so mind bendingly good that you become obsessed and it warps your personality.

10 is too many choices for a person to deal with
fractional scores are a joke
rating systems should be out of 5 and they should use words to help the unwashed masses:
done with this studio
it was bad
its an anime
enjoyed myself
will watch again

gintama i kneel

>>44823911
yeah monogatari covered that

>>44823703
not against it,
but imo spreading your learning cards throughout the day can be pretty beneficial

if you can list everything you liked in order from best to worst then you can use a 1-10 scale

should watch more gothic lolita anime for halloween

if you even think you can do that you are low iq

does shiki count as gothic lolita anime

i find 100 to be the best scale

god i wish i had a gothic lolita gf

I've been doing 10 cards a day and I either select "easy" or "again" no inbetween

even oreimo can be a gothic lolita anime if you squint hard enough

we should use colors to rate anime
like death note was orange

>>44823945
orange would be code geass

oreimo is a 6

>>44823942
gmi

synaesthesia rating system

all shounenshit is brown

bongs not allowed to vote

agree

dame banger
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJxedFvbSBQ

sonna yasasiku sinaide~

cant look at anything oreimo without thinking of shoui

still havent watched oreimo and only watched like 2 episodes of kissxsis

>>44823984

that's good it means you can save them for when you're fluent in japanese and you can understand all the nuances

saving media for when you know more japanese is cringe and ngmi

pouring one out for honey boy poster
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZug2c0bJXU

>>44823998
>saving media for when you know more japanese is cringe and ngmi

so fucken true. revisiting the same piece of media that you love over and over as you get better at japanese is such a kino way to measure your own improvement as well as enjoy it more and more each time

>>44824013
at least post the japanese version anal boy

certified banger coming through

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95AGHuxjyX4

>>44824019
there are no jp subs for that anime

double platinum banger
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzJ8U8OtEsE

>>44823010
i bet that pussy smells bad in a good way

>>44824037
rare agree

i post songs rarely

cheeky brat

shonen bros rate black clover for me should i watch it

real banger https://youtu.be/dhjNoIoo9DQ?t=92

>>44824020
that's nice

gonna need jamal's approval before i watch the lamune anime

saving media for when you get jamal's approval is cringe and ngmi

gonna need jamal's approval

out of respect for the work i need to get a fan of the source material's blessings

why dont you just play the vn

im a pauser

jamal says you can pause vns and it's ok though

crazy thing is vns just pause themselves

>>44824087
he said watching it was a high iq move. or maybe he said you need a high iq to watch it? kinda fuzzy on the details

REAL banger
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMtU1r6ndRI

weird how emaru and asahi made the only good songs halozy has ever had but then macaroom sucks

>>44824110
shit goes hard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2r0fbl7NY0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zStW7hLY51w

>>44824164
so true

https://learnjapaneseonline.info/2013/11/05/the-japanese-adventure-about-this-site/

was cure dolly right?

how do i get to the point i don't insert pauses into japanese like with english. for example, i have to consciously think about it to not say nandaare as nanda are.

cure dolly is always right

jamal hated japanese people so much

but its なんだ、あれ

>>44824338
its because in japan he would only be 130 iq

>>44824352
shit thats rough

in japan i would become 70 iq and become ultra based. fuck i gotta get to japan now bros...

shy sucks

imagine entering japan and getting treated the way og did in djt...

>imagine going to japan and everyone wants to fuck you
yes please

crazy how moe 180'd on og after she rejected his advances

every single poster was like
>lol you retard haha unless lol jk not interested but maybe

thats it bros i can no longer respect moe

moe would never do anything like that

og owned moe hard

thoughts on メカバレ?

get off pixiv lil bro

no

stay on pixiv onii-chan

wonder how they dealt with the ai flood

they just added an "ai-generated" tag and let you filter them all out

they didn't

they did but using the tag isnt enforced so its only improved not solved

>>44824345
not always though
https://files.catbox.moe/n6zqcy.mp3
it's most noticeable on words that end on お and connect to a word that begins with お using を, which i often hear slurring together into a long おーー

forget pixiv i'm all about jp x now.

what do the japs think of musk si's latest antics

>>44824460
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htWlj-6GhlE

>>44824473
nobody in the circles i follow seem to give a single shred of a fuck

if you so mad at him just leave his website bro

>>44824460
if you legit can't hear that as two words ur ngmi

>>44824513
no cap?

>>44824513
i'm talking about pronunciation, i have a habit of inserting a very small pause like in english. so instead of なんだーれ it's more like なんだ、あれ　if i don't consciously think about it.

why does netflix produce so much garbage yet somehow can randomly create such killer shows?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvMY1uzSC1E

>>44824542
hella lit fr

hella shit fr

>>44824542
this got me into anime after i thought it was all shit because of one punch man and death note
probably cuz it was written by westerners honestly

>this got me into anime after i thought it was all shit because of one punch man and death note
>probably cuz it was written by westerners honestly

big bait

been a week since i started no fap and i just had a dream about fucking my sister

shits getting fucking based

lil bro...

damn maybe i should try nofap

just to make sure were all clear here that anime was written by pure nihonjins

thank you for disabusing us anon sama

>>44824682
>i thought it was all shit because of one punch man and death note

could you rephrase this? i have no idea what you're trying to say here

Is Japanese From Zero worth it?

>>44824797

lol

daily eikaiwa thread

>>44824797
this is all you need

anal tard wont make it

everyone adds all these terms and conditions like if you cant understand something look it up
while youre at it dont forget to breathe
blinking helps too

ok /djt/ how do I properly go about training listening? you all lost your shit last thread about how jamal is wrong, so I want to hear how you personally did/do it.

watch anime

listen like your life depends on it

why is it キボンヌ and not キボってる

>>44824897
Why would it ever be that?

my listening stagnated and the only thing that can fix it is my own personal 嫁兼母親

>>44824542
netflix doesnt create shit. anime studios are just giving temporary rights to netflix

>>44824791
hes saying
>im a dumb zoomer who only knows about mainstream garbage anime and i base my opinion on every anime from that

who hurt you

>>44824964
seethe

approved anime list

no /lit/posting here

>>44824978
>bakabt
>don't register
this was very bad advice and you can tell the age of the chart by it

>>44824978
moe...

looking for a series that will give me a new really specific fetish that takes two sentences to describe

https://youtu.be/lekpV0vLt3E
bunko + this guy collab when?

holy fuck

>>44825150
never this nigga cringe
like seriously white boy a "black men standing behind white girl on sofa" meme in 2023??
hope he makes money tho

takin hour glass literally

that's gross

>>44824978
ふるーい

ふるいのもいいものはいいとおもうよ

ただ

わだいにしにくいとおもうよ

よりもいはとてもいい

よりもいなんだけど

すごいいいアニメではない

感動してくださーいのところでメインテーマがバーンと流れるから

アニメの作り方は古典的で新しいところはないしむしろ古臭いので褒められないといわれてる

それでも見ないでいいアニメではない

なんだろ

乗ってるアニメってあるのよ

けもフレもそう

乗ってる

if only i could change something from this timeline it would be unkos fucked up taste in woman

i just wish unko was out of sight out of mind

>>44825230
would for both of them honestly

>>44825237
why? im blessed

>>44825299
you got issues

>>44825301
probably but i get to have a lot of sex with soft 母性 women

no one who shows uninterested participants their fetish every day is happy or stable
it's a matter of time before unko breaks down

who is unko

>>44825318
a dekinai with granny issues

>>44825335
how long has he been studying and what is his level (real level, not online test)

mined 上新粉

girl i'm writing with 褒める'd me for using 漁る

>>44825456
cool when are you going to fuck her?

>>44825463
after marriage

cringe

>mine word
>audio doesn't sound anything like the furigana at all
>repeat the audio a dozen times
>still sounds completely wrong
>open card in anki and play the audio
>perfectly clear, sounds exactly how it should
>go back to video player
>doesn't sound right at all again
huh?

>be deaf
>can't hear
huh?

what video player what are you on about

a few years ago when fucking with p-frames and i-frames was a fad i wondered why no one called it vlcing

>>44825517
this shits happened to me too many fucking times

i've tried playing the mkv file in 4 different video players, and they all have the same problem. i have to chalk it up to something being corrupted with the video file that causes it to fuck up at that exact moment, but since i was still able to extract the audio just fine i guess it's not too bad.

have you tried letting the torrent finish

thieves getting their just deserts

welcome to the end of the anime age *evil laughter*

present day
present time

あはははは

きょうのにほんの文化

>夢落ちは禁止

これはなんだろう

ものをつくるときに全部現実ではありませんでした終わり

は

見せられたほうを激しくむかつかせるので禁止

>>44825517
>>44825536
Stop using VLC

>>44825683
日本に限られてないこと

>>44825726
では開幕転生は夢落ちとはどう違うのですか

>try to upload something missing from nyaa
>"anonymous upload disabled"
>try to sign up
>sign ups closed
>apparently been this way for years
I leave for a few years and nyaa became a fucking private tracker? How long until the site is inaccessible for non-registered users?

holy shit reading is such a pain. i can see why recommended first immersion material is usually just simply anime with japanese subtitles instead.

>>44825761
its just to reduce competition for the rippers and the elite reencoders

woke up time to wage

whats better about reading subtitles than reading anything else

>>44825806
quizmeister became fluent with their aid

what's more, their magic is well-documented in his legacy as a trailblazer

how hayai was his success

>>44823895
5 is the average when you pick things to watch completely at random. but people mostly don't do that. except then when they see 7 being the de facto average, they start interpreting that as meaning the thing is actually average, and they start inflating their ratings

says a lot about humanity that they want 3 unique ratings to describe things above average and 6 to describe things below average

>>44824889
close your eyes while reading vinnies

>>44825860
nobody wants that, it's just a side-effect of people preselecting things to consume according to their expected enjoyment

no its a real symptom of society being too afraid to offend

seemingly 6.9 is the mal average

is he /ourguy/?

>>44825965
nice

かわいいそう

かわいそうかわいそうなのです

ALICE!
Anyways what the hell is https://learnjapaneseonline.info/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/Alice_in_Kanji_Land-sample.pdf?

i miss bika

speaking of has anyone ever read cure dolly's seminal "unlocking japanese"

my rating system is
1/10 = bad
2/10 = average
3/10 to 10/10 = various levels of good

logically, if something is bad, it just isn't worth wasting half your numbers on it.
if a website offers a 0/10 then obviously i use that for "bad" instead and 1/10 becomes my "average" rating.

I turned off new anki cards for 4 months and just kept doing my review cards so that during my trip to japan I wouldn't have to do hours of cards there or have ~15 hours of catchup waiting for me after coming home... probably a bad longterm decision but at least most of my cards are mature now

should have still done 1 new card a day

gambs is cool ye

https://youtu.be/Tky2rTQ_IUc?t=19

reading this "alice in kanji land" pdf and why is alice/arisu from kansas

were not in kansas anymore ahahahahaha

>>44826099
that's all great until you start rating niche stuff. then the things you still enjoyed at some level get punished hard just because you've decided to rate them, and they drop in rating below some garbage that's propped by armies of 7/10ers, or below niche garbage that you just didn't happen to rate

>>44823010
Is that bobby lee?

>>44826426
>and they drop in rating below some garbage that's propped by armies of 7/10ers
fixable by normalizing ratings

1. A few guiding bits of food for thought
a. My 4 key bits of advice: Zipf's Law, The 50% Rule, How to Learn, Music School
b. Language isn’t math: You don’t magically become fluent after memorizing enough words or grammar points. Real content isn’t a sterile vacuum like a flashcard; you’ll encounter sentences you don’t understand despite knowing every word.
c. If consistency isn’t your strong point, learn about habit triggers and build a trigger-action plan to ensure you work time for Japanese into your daily life.
d. If you’ve already got a routine but want to optimize it, see the appendix on learning

>>44826099
Very well-put except I go by 1-5. 10 is too much precision for rating stuff. Also I use another metric: replays. If I consume the same media multiple times, that's usually an indicator of high quality.

>間男
Acquired, thanks Poruka.

>>44823703
>What kind of usage you want senpai?
>Just fuck my shit up
>Say no more

already done my reps. having breakfast now

>>44826725
Make breakfast your rep. Describe to me your breakfast in Japanese.

>>44826737
たまごサンドとオレンジジュース

>>44826764
どれパン

>>44826776
知らんもはや食った

>>44826737
ごはん

みそしる

なっとう

たまご

>>44826796
>たまごサンド
悪臭を思い描って

>>44826700

>>44826776
何パン
>>44826796
もう食った
>>44826817
描いて

we're all ngmi aren't we

yeah no shit

ノット・ゴンナ・メイク・イット

use your best japanese to describe this woman

>>44827292
今後、慰藉料との深い縁がありそうな表情

>>44827292
はうぅ！かぁいいよ！お持ち帰りぃ～

the RJ370402
based

they released a game about finding things in summer in october

not interested in 2d now that i get to creampie 3d daily

>>44827439
cringe

>>44827457
i do miss being able to just goon to futa and all that stuff but those days are behind me (for now at least lol)

>>44827292
バカ

>>44827292
五発食らってもまだその顔しやがって…なんてやつ＜あま＞だ…！
殺す！絶対殺す！この最後の弾で…

>>44826700
dame are you me?

love me some dlsite boisu dorama

the ideal listening immersion

>>44826426
literally doesn't effect me lol
only retards care about average ratings

>>44825215
lmfao he looks so ridiculous

if i cared about average ratings my system would instead be
1/10 = didn't like it
10/10 = did like it
just to maximize the effect my opinion has on the average.

Why is everyone freaking out about this guy learning an average number of words a day? Is chinese really that much harder?
https://www.reddit.com/r/ChineseLanguage/comments/16r6c7z/im_going_to_try_to_learn_20_words_a_day/

>>44827767
then it's even worse because that system doesn't distinguish between something you liked and literally the best thing you've ever seen

I'm exhausted, yet I feel amazing. It's like I just ran a marathon, but instead of using my legs, I used my cock. I can't believe how good that felt, and I already want to do it again.

>>44827767
yeah lots of people do that and the devs arent smart enough to do anything about it

>>44827864
wtf is this true

Reminder to never give up in your japanese studies so the faster you learn the faster you can move to japan and enjoy your new life!

>>44827921
17 cards a day guy won

woah just noticed i actually got a two day anki streak going holy shit

this might be my favorite flashcard

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSTwktzm73c

末席
出物
迎賓館
名折れ
流民

guys. is learning a language an example of declarative knowledge or imperative knowledge?

I deleted my deck

>>44828261
n7

>>44828465
im leaning toward declarative, ex. you dont really know why different sounds mean different things, theyre just made that way, for the most part you probably wont be able to find that out. for most languages, im pretty sure the written langauge doesnt have solid reasons for being the way that they are and it would probably be hard to find out. many language rules are just "that's just the way it is" and they change randomly over time without any concrete reason other than peoples whims and laziness

i wipe my ass with djt

My recall has gotten so bad that I know I should be doing isolated kanji study but the absolute last thing I want to do is isolated kanji study.

>>44829069
fucking idiot lol

>>44829069
assuming you mean recall as oppsed to recognition, im sure almost everyones recall here is bad. but I have a feeling you mean recognition

>>44829106
I have lots of red cards that I just can't grasp despite Anki flashing them at me (once) daily, basically.

>>44829069
>>44829124
you should be reading and watching more japanese content instead of playing memory games

>>44829124
sounds like recognition. yeah isolating certain kanji can help with that. you can try learning common words with the same readings as the ones you are having trouble with. you can try one of the many mnemonic systems to help you remember as well. im guessing youre using a core deck?

some actual autist here once mentioned something about how the techniques for learning music are outdated and that there are better ones, basically the equivalent of immersion learning in terms of efficacy. if you're still here, what are those techniques, i think you mentioned a book at some point too

>>44829139
I'm doing my core2k/6k reps, then I read a chapter of Yotsubato a day, and then do reps on the reading pack's deck. Most of my problems are coming from the 2k/6k deck.
>>44829154
Yes, 2k/6k as I said above. I have never been able to use mnemonics to study. I can't take them seriously, even as a child I always thought they were embarrassing and stupid, and I can't really get over that hangup. For me it's going to be hoping something clicks or being forced into isolated study, which is misery.

>>44829192
>then I read a chapter of Yotsubato a day
why are you only reading one chapter lol
the bulk of your gains will come from reading and watching things and figuring out what's going on, not from anki
you're literally spending the majority of your time on what is supposed to be a supplement you're supposed to use a couple minutes a day

>>44826859
what explains this spread on a single user and this variability between users?

>>44829222
I'm riddled with ADHD and get bored after one chapter. I also don't want to get too far ahead of the deck because then I'm not really reviewing anything at the same time it's relevant.

>>44829192
>2k/6k
i would just trash it and just engage in japanese content that you find fun and slowly replace it with what you normally do for fun. youre most likely going to forget most of the words in the deck unless you see/hear them frequently.

>>44829236
...read something else?

he was doomed from the beginning

>>44829236
>I'm riddled with ADHD and get bored after one chapter.
or you just dont like it. sounds like youre following one of the guides but its not really a good idea honestly. you obviously arent doing well with it, you should do it your own way

>>44829230
adhd
>>44829236
>I'm riddled with ADHD
ngmi

>>44829192
https://streamable.com/xffl09

>>44829253
>>44829237
>>44829270
I'd have to manually make my own cards then, and I don't think there's some easy tool to just scan a page and pick out the kanji for me.
>>44829299
Never been big into VNs, more into games and manga.

>>44829306
>I don't think there's some easy tool to just scan a page and pick out the kanji for me.
if the word is shown to you in furigana, you can just type it out but if it isnt then you can use a radical search
>I'd have to manually make my own cards then
much better than using the shitty core decks

>>44824871
>while youre at it dont forget to breathe
>blinking helps too

reading aloud helps too if you feel like you're not comprehending it to the degree you want, makes you really focus on the words and overall message

>>44824889
jamal wasn't giving advice on listening practice lol. the guy that wrote the huge response about how jamal is wrong about improving listening didn't even understand the two main points jamal was trying to make

>>44829306
>I'd have to manually make my own cards then
you missed the part where cards are not necessary
you can learn japanese without ever touching anki and no it's not going to take longer in fact someone who reads a couple chapters a day while looking up words he doesn't know would already run circles around you

>>44829382
thats ok because jamal was wrong like always

>>44826606
>c. If consistency isn’t your strong point, learn about habit triggers and build a trigger-action plan to ensure you work time for Japanese into your daily life.

if japanese isn't already part of your daily life then why the fuck are you learning it in the first place? 10k hours english subbed anime chads win again

>>44829407
win the retard bowl sure they do

>>44826606
>Real content isn’t a sterile vacuum like a flashcard
thats why animecards exist

>>44829306
>Never been big into VNs, more into games and manga.
you claim this but evidence suggests you're into posting on image boards in english, seeking attention and pity

wow anime boobs

>>44829434
I'm strongly into whining when I'm sad, which is how all these red cards make me feel.

>>44829451
holy fuck

>>44829451
let's gooooooo

>>44829465
unless you drop that trash deck/guide, and immerse more youre just gonna end up like the 90% of people who quit learning japanese

>>44829465
>m-muh cards

fuck you, anki is an amazingly helpful tool. people learned japanese as a 2nd language without it for thousands of years tho. if you can't enjoy its benefits, seek the root of your issue

>>44829492
what are the benefits and how can you prove them

>90%
low-ball estimate

>>44829192
>>44829236
core2k is just very difficult at the start because you know zero japanese. keep doing it and itll get way better. if you dont want to read then watch anime with jp subtitles but you have to read eventually. don't drop the deck it's the fastest way to get a bunch of words in you early on.

>>44829492
To be fair the main method by which people used to learn Japanese was to go and live among them until they picked it up the natural way, and that's not practical.

dont fuck with my dopamine

>>44829483
>>44829500
unironically more like 99%

>>44829494
there is a ton of literature about the benefits of srs to improve long term memory. memorizing how to read 梅雨 is nothing more than that, so srs can help you.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5126970/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21574747/

ciaran did core 6k and hes the itiban tuyoi djter doe

at least djts nihongo iq is 135

>>44829520
these are the same people who tried to vaxx everyone. also memorization is irrelevant

>>44829526
cringe bro

>>44829520
memorizing words is not language learning
you need to internalize how the words are used in context
you do this by consuming the language

>>44829546
and that's why manga with furigana is good

>>44829554
true
though jp-subbed anime is better

>>44829554
are the guy who thinks furgiana can replace anki

>>44829546
>>44829541
tell me how knowing the reading of 梅雨 isn't simple rote memorization (or any other word written with kanji for that matter)

>>44829559
you should split your time between raw anime and furigana manga

you don't need to "replace" anki you can just remove it from the equation without losing anything

shut up bitch

clench

>>44829571
raw anime is just white noise for a beginner and a complete waste of time

>>44829581
you gotta start somewhere

>>44829584
you start with manga

start with deez

>>44829584
yeah so start with jp-subs

>>44829589
you do both

>>44829591
no

if you want to gradually build from easier to hard the obvious path is
>start: eng-subbed anime
>middle: jp-subbed anime
>end: raw anime

why isn't this the advice given most of the time? because anki mining autism says jp subs are the only way

i didnt immerse or rep for 6 months and i got better at listening

*saves the noobs*

big j dropped his eng sub wisdom years ago and its already been washed away by the sands of time

raw anime is the best because it's the hardest

based shit scrubbing sand

>>44829601
english-subs aren't all bad if you treat them properly but absolute beginners can't be trusted with them
they'll do stupid shit like attempting word for word comparisons and taking what the english subs say as exact fact rather than just extract the rough meaning

>>44829608
way too biased. for example, manga lookup speed is near instant with mokuro ocr + yomichan

>manga and anime have the same "ease of language"
>but somehow anime input is more dense
quite the opposite actually. A 30 second fight scene with no talking could be a single page on a manga.

>additional context
this entire column is just your bias meter, delete it

>>44829608
thank you anon-sama

you cant control gains
iq will dominate your efforts

>>44829614
https://streamable.com/g8e5jy

>>44829621
>they'll do stupid shit like attempting word for word comparisons

and that is somehow better than nukemarine doing this with written text? https://youtu.be/ndFX-ViOfZE?t=15

a 140 iq who reads a yotsuba chapter a day while playing 神経衰弱 is still ngmi

>140
there's a reason it falls in the only mildly gifted range

>>44829505
I wouldn't say I'm at the beginning of it, I'm about 400 or so words in and 'completed' (it asks me to do like 10 reviews a day of stuff I mostly know, so I don't count it among my reps) an N5 sentence deck beforehand, I switched to core 2k/6k instead of moving on to an N4 deck to see if I'd do better with word study than sentence study. It went fine until recently when I started having issues with learning new words.

>>44829641
this is unironically a great way to learn the language, by just being exposed to how it is used and taking note of it

more like よ唾 lmfao

>>44829661
lol

>>44829591
>none of the shows you like have jp subs

>>44829658
>I'm about 400 or so words in and 'completed' an N5 sentence deck

yeah, so you're a beginner that doesn't know anything.

>>44829678
there's like a million shows on kitsunekko if you don't like any of those there's probably not enough japanese shit for you to learn the language

>>44829658
unironically just read more and your retention will also go up. New words will become easier to remember too

>>44829572
doesnt matter if you need to or not, it doesnt have the same function

this japanese woman i met is trying to get me a job in japan i might just marry her bros

they say that your success in life is highly correlated with the number of uncomfortable conversations you're willing to have.

maybe your success in japanese depends on how many uncomfortable sentences you're willing to try and read

>>44829702
make sure to invite your /djt/ friends to the wedding

i dont think djt has the balls to watch raw anime

>>44829680
Yes, I'm responding to an anon's specific point that I'm not 'new' to core2k, rather than trying to claim I'm good at Japanese.
>>44829684
I am reading, and I'm mostly not struggling with the Yotsubato deck (some of these kanji are hard to parse at the small text size of these cards though,) it's the general use kanji from 2k/6k that suddenly won't stick.

>>44829713
>I'm responding to an anon's specific point
you need to read what that anon said more carefully:
>"core2k is just very difficult at the start because you know zero japanese."
>because you know zero japanese
he's saying you're a beginner in the language, not a beginner at core decks

if your memory is so shit you need flashcards you probably dont have a soul tbqh memory is about emotions

>>44829710
i will invite ciaran and og, and moe as my best man

yeah that's why i like manga with furigana that touches the kokoro

>>44829683
>kitsunekko
i counted it has 2200+.
i use that and other stuff like raws and there are plenty of shows that are missing subs or have issues like horribly timed subs that would be a huge pain to fix, or it only has chinese subs, or the second season isnt subbed etc.
theres plenty of times where i want to watch something and theres no proper subs for it

cry moar

>>44829733
which emotion causes you to recall how 形跡 and 跡形 are read?
fuck off with your pseudo-science bullshit. some stuff just needs to be rote memorized

>>44829623
>Yomichan
>Reading in-browser

>>44829746
you said "none"
if there is literally no show on there you like you are ngmi

>>44829608
How is a vn's ease of language lower than a ln's? Vns literally take novel text and put it into bite sized chunks, not to mention the general vn is composed of more conversation based text compared to lns. And a bit minor but addionally, most lns are full of "ln slang" and are generally full of more unique words per novel

>>44829753
mangaocrreader is a pretty great android app if you wanna read on a tablet and have instant lookups.
i've heard you can send mokuro'd manga to jidoujisho and read it that way too.

>>44829752
>some stuff just needs to be rote memorized
true true and language is not one of them

>>44829752
its scientific bro
long term memory = empathy

>>44829758
im just exaggerating a bit. most of the shows(not just anime) i want to watch dont have jp subs

>>44829722
Fair enough.

>>44829767
>>44829765
>avoids the question
if you can read the jp words i posted then answer my question

theres a big difference between being emotional and feeling emotion

>>44829752
nipongo has phonetic components and furigana for that

>>44829767
I cry at sad songs (correlates to high empathy) but have shit long term memory.

>>44829776
i did lil bro but im afraid your bug ass got no soul

>>44829752
you can just feel what the right reading is
if you know japanese you know what im talking about

>>44829792
>>44829779

>>44829785
neither of those words will ever have furigana over them.
anki is the most efficient way to memorize how they are read

>anki is the most efficient way to memorize how they are read
you just know his soul (愛級) is under 120

reminder that nobody has ever learned Japanese before Anki existed

and you still didn't so what's your point

>>44829711
no reason to watch raw anime when you can just use jp subs. the only people that care more about their listening ability are ones learning the language for a superficial reason like wanting to talk to the japanese. ngmi