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kill her then
she must die so we may marry youkai

>>44669621
What does she care what some drifter from outside is doing? I'm not causing an incident or anything.

I'm safe, my wife isn't a Youkai!
As for you, rape her!

>>44669646
you're teaching villagers a bad habit

>>44669688
( Rape Reimu, not my wife, I'm ESL )

>>44669688
your wife is an ancient hag who doesn't know what romance even is
that's arguably worse

Isn't that racist? Denying the right of an entire species to have romance with other sounds a bit...

>>44669693
It's okay, they'll just see me as a nutjob because I am willing to do this with something they are afraid of.

>>44669621
Search anal sex of Reimu and you'll find out why she's worth fucking instead of youkai

>>44669717
We all know Marisa would be the first to ride youkock if it existed.
Take the uniform off you damn femcel!

>>44669768
But i love my youkai girlfriend!

>>44669797
>>44669621

>>44669804
It is a sentiment women will never understand.

There are other beings in Gensokyo apart of Youkai

Like Gods
Celestials
Humans
Magicians
Vampires
etc

What Reimu thinks about them?

>>44669621
This problem is easily solved.

>CAPTCHA AXX HAG

>>44669621
What?! I'll have you know that my girlfriend is a beautiful and modest hermit, not some kind of disgusting youkai!

>>44669804
It's true love! Not that reimu would understand

>>44670404
Did you just call my youkai girlfriend disgusting? I will kick your butt anon!

>>44669621
It's okay she's a ??? youkai

>>44670492
Agreed.

>>44669804
Based villager trying to make sure his children will have a happy future.

HUMAN WOMEN ONLY
FUCK A NICE HUMAN GIRL YOU FUCKING DEGENERATES
REMEMBER HUMAN WOMEN ONLY

My entire top 2hu top 10 is human. Ask me anything. You've got until I marry any one of them.

>>44674115
Most humans in Touhou are filthy fucking race traitors. How do you cope?

My wife has finished digging a mass grave for all of you human supremacists!

>>44674204
Your wife is the impostor, we all know the REAL yuukarin (MY wife) would not leave anything to bury!

I love my dragon wife so much

I hate youkai so much it's unreal. There's a limited supply of human men and youkai just keep stealing them away.

>>44674204
Nah, Yuuka would definitely be on the side of Reimu and Akyuu.
Not because she actually cares, mind you, but simply because nothing gives her more satisfaction than looking at the sad faces of youkai women as they are denied a human husband.

>>44674729
Definitely not. Yuuka mostly seems to mind her own business as of Windows era, and even if she were to indulge her seeming sadistic streak, the moment she takes an interest in a man there'll be hell to pay if some homewrecking red-white miko thinks she can interfere.

>>44674202
I don't care as long as they're human.

>>44674874
Akyuu simply made her an offer she couldn't refuse. So many new opportunities to bully weaklings and those who deluded themselves into believing they are actually strong.
You should've seen the daitengu, anon. She was actually crying as her first catch in ages was taken away from her. Shit was hilarious.

>>44675695
>You should've seen the daitengu, anon.
You're telling me THAT'S why Reimu suddenly flew me away from that nice diner in the village before I could object? That's a bridge too far, I'm going to have to pay off that malnourished witch girl for a proper youkai extermination.

Mating with Youkai creates BEASTS like Rinnosuke.

>>44675857
...This cute guy?

>>44675857
>>44676146
Don't have sex with youkai your child will have major autism

>>44675857
Good, I want my children to have good genes. Me mating with a youkai will give them exactly that.

>>44676229
It's not the youkai part that would cause that.

>>44675857
Who's the lucky bastard that knocked up a youkai?
Are both his parents dead?

>>44669698
Eirin may not understand romance, but she knows about it, just like she knows she loves Anon. Yes, she might drug him, kidnap home from his family, and keep him trapped in Eientei, but she still tries and... mimicks what humans traditionally see as romance?

This is something to be careful when you date youkai or ancient goddesses. Yes, they can love you. But their minds simply aren't human. They will do many things that to you seem inexplicable or strange.

>>44676922
>They will do many things that to you seem inexplicable or strange.
Jackpot.

>>44676922
>But their minds simply aren't human.
Just because Eirin has not been held accountable often enough to develop proper social skills is not an excuse for locking Anon in a room and planting an arrow through the throat of any woman who comes looking for him.

>>44676922
Eirinbros I am so happy...

A youkai woman keeping me warm and safe!
Feeling genuine love for a youkai!
Making everyone in the vicinity sick because of how sickeningly sweet our lovey-dovey romance is!

>>44681386
Loving her so much that she no longer needs to live off of fear! Swearing to stay with her for the rest of your life! Realizing that she will outlive you and will be sad you're gone! Coming up with a plan to transcend your humanity in secret! Taking her by the hand and telling her you want to spend the rest of HER life together! Proposing to her on the spot! Living a long life of love and happiness with your youkai wife! Having lots of children together and raising them the best you both can! Being there for her no matter what! Being glad that after hundreds and hundreds of years together she passes before you so she doesn't have to live without you! Going peacefully in your sleep next to her and then finding her in the next life to be together always!

>>44677096
>>44676945
That's a bad thing

>>44681880
transcending your humanity!
being murdered by reimu!
being unable to accept your death!
refusing to cross the sanzu river!
turning into a vengeful spirit and slowly losing your sense of self until all that remains is a vague longing for your youkai wife who never knew what happened to you!
being killed by reimu again!

>>44687467
>Reimu acknowledging the existence of a vengeful spirit
It's even lonlier than that

>>44687467
Waking up from the nightmare where you die from Reimu!
Surviving because you're not a villager and the laws don't apply to you!
Becoming a youkai anyways!
It's the human fear of death that made you think those bad things!
But it's okay, because there's no issues for you since the limitations of Gensokyo don't apply to you!
Everyone that knows you is okay with it as long as you don't harm the villagers or become power hungry!
But you won't because you only want to spend eternity with your loving youkai wife!
Celebrating by having a party with all invited!
Reimu showed up and congratulated you when you promised to donate regularly!
Getting the Hakurei's blessing!
Having lots of hand holding, baby- making, mating press, eye contact having, romantic lovemaking sex with your newlywed youkai wife!
Figuring out what to name your new bundle of joy!
Happy youkai wife, happy life!

Reimu- I'm dating a youkai, Reimu.
I'm dating an Oni, Reimu. I'm dating an Oni.

Youkaifuckers wouldn't be so bad if they had even an ounce of creativity instead of writing their "youkai" wives as the most generic of humans.
They're supposed to be inhuman monsters, people. Relationships with them should end up in complete disaster 95% of the time, and even the relatively successful pairings should involve a ton of problems simply because of the extreme differences in culture and species.
If you're not writing your stories to revolve around how your youkai wife forces you to help her unleash a plague on some stranger's crops because she thought their owner looked at her funny, you're doing it wrong.

Also, only the most degenerate of youkai and associates would want their spouse to become an inhuman. They understand the nature of mortality perfectly fine and it's a key part of why human spouses appeal to them in the first place. Their short lives and desperation to make meaning in their ephemeral existence is what makes them so lovely. If they wanted to be with someone forever, they would've just married a youkai from the get-go.

>>44689516
I have a feeling that youkai hands made this post.
it's correct though

>>44689516
It would only be a matter of time before people get sick of it, just like how you might feel right now towards these stories.

>>44669621
>Humans shouldn't be friends with youkai
>Hakurei Shrine is infested with youkai
>hardly ever receives human visitors

How do you differentiate between a Youkai and someone like Kaguya for instance?

>>44689590
Youkai tend to have social lives and personalities.

I will marry my youkai girlfriend and there's nothing Reimu can do about it!

I will marry my human girlfriend and there's nothing youkais can do about it!

>>44689516
Who are you, the youkai inspector? Take a hike and untwist your panties.

>>44689574
Stupid frog poster

>>44700255
Don't give Akyuu attention anon, she'll be dead soon.

>>44689516
>If they wanted to be with someone forever, they would've just married a youkai from the get-go.
That's a very easy thing to say before you fall in love and then start thinking hard about how you're going to outlive them.

>>44689516
But, Anon that's where you're retarded.
Close, but no cigar. Most stories end between a human and youkai for the same reason that most human/human stories end-breakdown of communication and breach of trust.

Those that DO stand the test of time are the stuff of legend and survive for generations upon generations.

As for them being "complete irredeemable monsters", that's a very thin logic that breaks over any modicum of study. They aren't human, but they feel, think, and act just as humans are capable of doing, though the reason behind their actions and feelings may differ from that of the human lover. For instance, the swan story: they got along great until the man did what she asked him explicitly not to do; peak in while she plucked her feathers. He broke her trust due to lack of communication, and she was harming herself out of a belief it was the only way to help him, and she broke his trust by not speaking to him about what she was doing.
The fox stories-same genral moral.
Youkai aren't all mustache twirling, cosmic evils. They run the gamut of good, evil, and everything in between. Just like humans, and just like the kami/gods. If a kami is believed to be negative, they take on the negative, and with neglect can "fall" into the state of "youkai". But it's more nuanced than that. "Youkai" comes from that of "Mononoke". And they all break down into "mysterious/otherworldy being/event/thing". Some are helpful and even beneficial to humans. Others are antagonistic and act to provide lessons or warnings to those that listen. And in between you have those that are indifferent to human beings and act as they do with no concern for things outside their influence.

As for the lifespan issue, if they both communicate and are respectful, then it will be a life of happiness for one, and almost a centennial span of happy memories for the other. And children are a possibility, with the youkai acting as parent/family guardian if they so choose.

And if the two are willing to try, respectful of the other, understanding of differences and similaroties, and able, then the possibilities of the human living a lifespan that matches the youkai or just a longer life in general is an almost assured outcome.
As for eating/killing/fear/etc, if they are bound by human belief, then with enough time and effort they can become independent of the need for violence and can even be sustained by the love of another. This can be seen in the story of the fox maiden that was required to be turned down a multitude of times so she could ascend into a higher being, and many, many others.
It may not be logical, and it may be dangerous, but the reward for loving each other and finding happiness in life despite the differences make it worth it, whether you're gone in the blink of a cosmic eye or exist for all eternity. Love is worth it, and so are they.

>>44701266
Look, what you say may be true for myths, but it has nothing to do with Touhou.
Most youkai are inherently antagonistic to humans and there is nothing that can be done about it with such a small and easily influenced local human population.
The whole
>if they are bound by human belief, then with enough time and effort they can become independent of the need for violence and can even be sustained by the love of another
can only be wishful thinking without humanity's belief in supernatural being restored.

>>44703028
It has everything to do with Touhou because the beings in Gensokyo are inherently "myths" that are fully sentient and self-sustaining per your own reply to me in the image where Byakuren tells Marisa that they are no longer bound by human limitations and can stand on their own when it comes to existence and the forms they take. Antagonism does not mean "bad guy". It means that while they are capable of existing in the physical how they see fit, they are also able to change in the metaphysical sense, such as names holding power over one's identity, the hidden reason for the Oni being weak to beans only during Setsubun, the naming convention of vampires being influenced by the kanji for Oni and gaining said weakness, and so on. Yet at the same time vampires are weak to water, but Flan overcomes that weakness because she "practices" around the water and gains immunity. Not invulnerability, because she believes she is still weak to it. I state this example because youkai exist on the mental layer, whereas humans exist on the physical, but both can interact with and influence one another. The whole point of Gensokyo is due to them losing their "purpose"- humans stopped believing in them/fearing them. They didn't all disappear. Some did, but others grew weak and became in the same level as humans, thereby becoming a "human" with extra parts, so to speak. But this shows that they can thrive on other emotions besides fear and death. Even some of the characters in game go through this change, such as Raiko, gaining a new "purpose" upon tweaking their "origin" or their "purpose". Will they stay the same as they are in personality? That depends on if who or whatever instituted the impetus for the change believes. If youkai A wants to/ends up changing something about them and they believe they will fundamentally change- they will. If they, or the humans, or the environment believe they will stay the same in essence but lose the need to eat people-they will.
The name escapes me for what the word is in Japanese, but the modern, real world Japanese people believe that Suwako and Kanako are the versions that the Kami they are based off of have taken in order to continue to exist, and have manifested in such a manner because there is a need for it. The same can be said for the youkai; they are capable of changing with no detriment, and even Miyoi points this out to drunken villager #1432 when he fears they eat people and she tells him that they did in the past, as a collective, but no longer need to.
Youkai, like the Kami, are just as likely to change, grow, and evolve as their human counterparts. That's the whole point of your example and it happened around the time of the Meiji Restoration, both in real life and per in game lore, and is the catalyst for them changing and growing beyond what they used to be bound by.

As for humanity's belief needing to be restored in order for such a change to occur-Kanako says that's baloney. All they need is to be thought of as real and to have interactions with humans to exist. It's not about a mass scale religious revival the world over or a fundamental return to living the ways our ancestors did. The residents of Gensokyo world be ecstatic for such a thing, but it's not necessary. All they need is for you to believe they're real, and they become real to you. And if we believe that they can love and be loved, that's all that matters. The rest comes from the individuals involved.

To you who lacks faith, these things are impossible. To those of us who believe, it is simply a fact of the world.

>>44703206
>Antagonism does not mean "bad guy"
It does. I have no idea why do you think it means "ability to change".
>But this shows that they can thrive on other emotions besides fear and death
But here's the thing - most of youkai either can't or don't want to.
>All they need is for you to believe they're real, and they become real to you
If what you said was true, there would be no need in keeping the villagers in the dark about the nature of their existance in Gensokyo, just them believing in youkai would be enough. But instead they're kept ignorant, because otherwise the wouldn't fear youkai, which would kill them, and most youkai don't seem to be keen on the idea of improving their relationship much past that.
>Miyoi points this out to drunken villager #1432 when he fears they eat people and she tells him that they did in the past, as a collective, but no longer need to
If they didn't need the Village they would be just as cruel to it's inhabitants as they are to outsiders, but that's not the case, so of course they'll try to placate them.
Let's stop here, this thread really isn't a place for this discussion.

>>44703348
This is the lore thread
Besides, not having it means the odds of grimsokyofags raiding goes up rapidly

>>44704005
No, it really doesn't belong here. Human-youkai relationships in Touhou are not good enough for there to be interspecies romance, and that's how it is untill some future work proves otherwise. And no, Rinnosuke is several centuries old, he was not born in Gensokyo as it is now, so he's not proof.
>This is the lore thread
Seems more like a waifu thread to me. Only a few recent posts have anything lore related, and that's a mistake, because, as I explained, lore doesn't allow much romance.
I'll stop here, before this really turns into a lore thread.

Grimsokyofags can gtfo of this thread. We fuck ageless youkai pussy here.

>>44704526
You're god damn right.

And I don't know what these others are talking about the discussion above not being lore related. It's literally describing the very nature and origin of the youkai and how they relate and differ to the real world lore.

And you>>44703348
>antagonistic, blah blah.
I ran out of room and it was late so I missed describing the full extent here. My point, and the definition you provide does not mean bad guy. It means to oppose. The opposite force to one being provided.
Some of them are evil. Some of them are not. They can change and do. Suika even states that they play a role when discussing Setsubun and its origin in relation to the in game reasons and effects it has for both the Oni and the humans. To the humans, they are weak because.....they just are okay! To the Oni, they knew that they were too strong and manipulated/manufactured their very own weakness for varying reasons.to keep pace with the humans growth, to keep a distance from the humans they had grown to dislike, to make a false scenario in the hope that some humans rose above the need for falsehood, etc. This shows that while their nature is violent, raw, and dangerous, they also are honest to a fault, and are interested in fighting, drinking, and fucking for good or bad. They are a check and balance system to the humans, per their own admission and per Lunarian admission.
They aren't "evil" as you seem to understand it. They provide antagonism. If you and I are having this conversation, neither of us are "evil", but we're acting as antagonist to each other. If you drive to the store and get stopped by a red light, it's your antagonist for getting to your destination. Back to the point.

The villagers agent in the dark, nor entirely, just like some youkai are in the dark on their side of things. Ran is a good argument for this in how she acts (and gets beaten by Yukari).
The very nature of Gensokyo is such that everyone is playing a part, for better or worse, and that involves keeping things in balance, which necessitates the need for an antagonistic force, but again does not mean "villian". I'm not one to badmouth people here, but you're coming across as a Grimfag with nothing to back it up with. I've provided examples both in-game from Gensokyo's side, Zun's reasons for the way things are, and their real-world counterpart in youkai, Kami, and human nature. The most you've provided is "nuh uh" while claiming it's devolved into "waifuism".
>>44704005
>>44704168
It can be both, as I'm doing now. Goes hand in hand for discussing lore. Grimfag, like Cutefags, are one end of a pendulum and both hold some merit but the real thing is somewhere in the middle. But no one's ready for that conversation based on what's been said against my reasoning above.

>>44704005
This is the youkai dating thread, what are you talking about?

To put the lore discussion back on-topic: Realistically there isn't that much stopping you from courting a youkai or any other non-human in Gensokyo beyond the usual dangers, most of which are easily prepared for as a large number of the man-eating youkai we know of are relatively weak, and any sort of item or weapon capable of inflicting harm on the Mental Layer is a hard counter.

Fundamentally, the issue with Touhou's non-humans is not that their psyches are inhuman, but that they're too human. Most of the named ones have enough power that they're unlikely to face real consequences for most of their actions provided they don't threaten the status quo, which is typically in their favor, and therefore some of the worst possible traits a person can have are mostly permitted without fear of retribution.

To clarify some misunderstandings, however:
>>44703028
>>44707154
Both Byakuren and Kaguya's claims are debunked by the Mental Layer. Byakuren can't acknowledge that in front of the villagers though lest she meets the same fate as Fortune Teller, and Kaguya just wanted to hype up her people. Yukari's explanation of the origin of Youkai is the closest to the reality of it, which is mostly just a direct rip of SMT's lore for the existence of gods and demons.

>>44704168
Rinnosuke is proof that it could work in what probably should've been a worse time for it. Even considering that most youkai hide their natures in the village, there are quite a few that generally do get along with people.

To reiterate the initial point: The root of it all lies in the power dynamic between humans and nonhumans. Human belief can easily create new nonhumans, and result in fundamental changes in the nature of those that exist. Just the same, nonhumans can often easily kill humans, and there's little better leverage to get someone to do what you want. Without some sort of balance, of course the average powerful youkai is going to be unpleasant to deal with short of having leverage of your own.

>>44707154
I'm probably having my view of Touhou skewed a bit from recent lore threads' tendency to jump to darker themes (which, I admit, I contributed to by making one of them), but I just lost the ability to see the positive in Gensokyo. I'm new to Touhou, and only had games and PMiSS for lore info untill recently, so my view of Gensokyo got thoroughly destroyed by WaHH and FS. I sperged out about it without thinking on several threads, this being the first unrelated one, sorry for this.
You're still wrong about the villagers though: they know nothing, FS and Lotus Eaters show this.
>>44707503
>Both Byakuren and Kaguya's claims are debunked by the Mental Layer
Mental layer was so vaguely defined in CoLA I didn't think it would contradict what Byakuren said, and I haven't found any more info on it.
>Rinnosuke is proof that it could work in what probably should've been a worse time for it
Another weird thing about Rinnosuke is that he's a half-youkai at all. Usually children from youkai relationships are either full human or full youkai. Half youkai are incredibly rare and are truly legendary figures, like Abe no Seimei.

Also, a bit more rerailing this thread, I made this "which girl would agree to a date with a completely normal human" list for some reason. Feel free to correct me.

>>44707154
I'm probably having my view of Touhou skewed a bit from recent lore threads' tendency to jump to darker themes (which, I admit, I contributed to by making one of them), but I just lost the ability to see the positive in Gensokyo. I'm new to Touhou, and only had games and PMiSS for lore info untill recently, so my view of Gensokyo got thoroughly destroyed by WaHH and FS. I sperged out about it without thinking on several threads, this being the first unrelated one, sorry for this.
You're still wrong about the villagers though: they know nothing, FS and Lotus Eaters show this.
>>44707503
>Both Byakuren and Kaguya's claims are debunked by the Mental Layer
Mental layer was so vaguely defined in CoLA I didn't think it would contradict what Byakuren said, and I haven't found any more info on it.
>Rinnosuke is proof that it could work in what probably should've been a worse time for it
Another weird thing about Rinnosuke is that he's a half-youkai at all. Usually children from youkai relationships are either full human or full youkai. Half youkai are incredibly rare and are truly legendary figures, like Abe no Seimei.

Also, a bit more rerailing this thread, I made this "which girl would agree to a date with a completely normal human" list for some reason. Feel free to correct me.

>>44707802
Don't think the tsukumo sisters should be high up there. Whether or not it was due to seija's meddling that they wanted to form a tool society free from humans, they don't seem to be the kind to trust normal humans.

>>44707802
>Feel free to correct me.
Generally I think your tier list is a bit pessimistic to the point of disconnect from canon. Yuuka, for example, doesn't seem to actually be that hostile to humans in spite of her PMiSS article (and to be fair, Akyuu is known to be an unreliable narrator with an agenda.) Toyohime might refuse, but she's already had a human husband, so I doubt it's that unlikely. In fact, most of the "will refuse" you listed are actually decently friendly individuals. It helps that, assuming what we see of the oni in hell is accurate to what they currently look like, a lot of youkai aren't exactly as easy on the eyes as humans.

Overall coming to terms with the darkness in Gensokyo isn't that much different from doing the same IRL, and much of the problems in the setting are the same fundamentally (although a part of that is likely ZUN using it to make political allegories now more than ever.) None of the issues are anywhere near unsolvable provided someone has the cunning and determination to do so.

TL;DR: Even now there is hope for man. (To date, marry, and fuck nonhuman women.)

>>44708002
I assumed their behaviour was from the Mallet, yes, but we really have no idea how they are after its effect was gone. But ok, I'll lower them and Raiko.
>>44708182
Yeah, I overdid it with Yuuka.
>In fact, most of the "will refuse" you listed are actually decently friendly individuals
Just because they're friendly doesn't mean they would like to date. Sometimes, the power/status gap is just too much, and I dont see fairies or Mayumi being all that interested in romance. And in case of Watatsuki sisters, it's because they're married, not in spite of it.
>None of the issues are anywhere near unsolvable provided someone has the cunning and determination to do so.
Yeah, but as long as ZUN wants to keep making "satire", I can only imagine the setting getting worse.

>>44708182
>TL;DR
You are correct.

>More detailed explanation:
Even the SDM is known to be friendly and welcoming to outsiders, i.e.- anyone that catches Remilia's interest despite what danger may lurk inside. And even then, as long as you're polite and don't act retarded the most that will happen is you'll be kicked out (even if the grimfags claim you'll be turned into human lasanga for Flanfield in the basement. The most you'll get is drained with permission and left to recover/get thrown out after you've been used as a caprisun that becomes anemic).
The real danger is having the residents take a liking to you and then having to keep them happy or risk getting turned into a stain on the carpet. Don't give Sakuya more work than she already has, please.

>>44708344
>Just because they're friendly doesn't mean they would like to date.
Depends on the context, I guess. If you meant agreeing to being asked on a date out of pocket I suppose I'd be more inclined to agree, but again, most of them get along with humans well enough that I doubt they'd be opposed to a romance with one they were fond of, and there are a multitude of cases in Gensokyo of even powerful youkai taking a degree of favor towards normal humans (Kosuzu being the prime example.)
>And in case of Watatsuki sisters, it's because they're married, not in spite of it.
Only Yorihime is married. Toyohime's husband walked in on her giving birth as a shark/crocodile thing and she ran off to the moon in shame. That's actually the biggest issue with dating nonhumans from Japanese myth: They have serious issues opening up, even after getting married and having a kid, and that poor communication is the biggest barrier to a relationship with them.
>as long as ZUN wants to keep making "satire", I can only imagine the setting getting worse.
Strictly a meta issue. Just from the setting alone even a normal human could make serious waves by rubbing elbows with the right people. Make yourself an indispensable part of the emotional life of someone influential and you'll find a lot of benefits. Again, much like the real world.

>>44708603
>The most you'll get is drained with permission and left to recover/get thrown out after you've been used as a caprisun that becomes anemic
Where is that stated? I mostly ask because this sounds like what happens to "delivered" outsiders in one fanfic I read, so I assumed this wasn't canon.

>>44708603
>The real danger is having the residents take a liking to you
Truth is, Gensokyo's biggest issue is that youkai have yet to realize that their ire is far less terrifying than their love. The affections of a woman with enough power to simply ignore societal norms and strike down anyone who gets in her way is a thing of dread.

>>44708682
It's kind of implied lore mixed with personal theory/understanding. It's stated that everything the sisters eat has human blood in it, but they do not eat human meat. That's just certain fans pushing a theory. Meiling may, and possibly Koa, but that's an extreme stretch for both with very little, if any backing. I digress.
Those that are bit by vampires in lore are said to have a few different things happen, with some contradicting the others.
1. They become "zombie-like" and disentigrate in the morning sun.
2. They simply become anemic for a while and that's that.
3. They almost never die because Remi is a light eater (and is small/has a small stomach), and Flan can't drink from the source because she gets too excited and doesn't leave anything-she makes em go pop in bloodlust, so all her food is delivered with blood mixed into prepared dishes like cakes(they are not made of human meat) or champagne glasses full of straight blood(with wine?).
For the Outsiders "delivered" it's never stated in what form that takes. Most likely it's just the blood from people who won't be missed (suicidal, forgotten, death row inmates, but all speculation) while the meat is given/sold to those that need/want to eat human. Or, it may just come from blood banks despite that one Anon who argues with me and is retarded.
Remi is a high class gal who is particular about taste and can even differentiate between blood types (B is her favorite) and HATES bitter stuff. She's the type to dump sugar in her tea when no one's looking.
So implied, varying degrees of in world lore, and speculation putting things together.

>>44708722
That's what makes her affection for me even better. I'll sustain her with my love and she'll love me regardless of what or who may come.

>>44708603
The thing about Remilia is that it's hard to form a real relationship with her, since she's mentally a child, and she's likely to completely drop a guy without a thought as soon as she gets bored of it, especially since it wouldn't be like the kind of fairy tale relationships she would've read about in books and the like.
Youkai fundamentally have different needs from humans, with some being especially alien from humanity.

>>44709295
I.....don't disagree to an extent, but her and her sister are......let's say "complicated" when it comes to how they think. Through the lens of a young girl, with the energy that comes with it? Definitely. But solely thinking like a child, not really. They are both "childish" in some ways, but if something comes up that necessitates being serious you'll see the mask fall and the ancient, wise, mature (and maybe sadistic, maybe not) side will come out. She's from the early 1500s around the time of the Renaissance in Europe (English/French/ mix of both) and there wasn't really a concept of "childhood" back then. More than likely she came from a high class position in life and is spoiled, or became spoiled in personality after acquiring the power of a vampire (if she didn't poof in like that one Anon thinks). She's incredibly loyal to those she cares for and even goes out of her way to make it up to them for having to deal with her antics, so she's self-aware in what she may put others through to satisfy her boredom. As for a relationship, I would agree that she would drop someone in the blink of an eye, but that would only be for those that didn't pass her evaluation tests. She wouldn't drop her significant other just because, but she would drop potential suitors that didn't make the cut that fast, I agree. The list she would have from fairy tale relationships would rule out so many that it could contest with Kaguya, but the right man with the right personality, with the right pedigree, with the right skills would find her attached to him for the rest of his life. Me. She's attached to me.

>>44709295
>Remilia
What happens if she gets forced to lose to cock?

>>44709384
>A vampire who resides in the Scarlet Devil Mansion. She can manipulate fate. She has apparently lived for over 500 years. Considering how long she has lived, she acts rather childishly.
>Creatures of her kind forfeit their growth and maturity in exchange for eternal life. In other words, she can live forever because she never grows up.
Her vampirism fundamentally leaves her a child forever, even if it's one with five hundred years of lived experience. She's not a good romantic partner and her approach to love would basically be the same as little girls fantasizing about it; it's not a genuine desire to share her life with another, but just another form of play.
>>44709557
Trauma.

>>44670289
>Shooting a 2hu playable character with bullets

>>44709779
Hate to break it to you anono, that Luger is emptier than my ballsack after a night with an Oni.

>>44709793
That Luger still exists without any visible damage, though, Nonny.

>>44709779
You'd have to be real scummy and shoot them before they notice. The humans are probably just as bulletproof as the rest of us.

>>44703348
sorry to be a nnoying, but antagonist IS morally neutral. It merely implies opposition to the protagonist, and nothing more. If the protagonist is the one morally in the wrong or if neither are "bad guys" who just disagree with each other, then it it totally possible to have a non- "bad guy" antagonist.

>>44709620
I hear you, but I don't care. She's a wonderful little lady and the only reason the residents of Gensokyo think that is because they think all Westerners are violent and/or childish. Ask the Dutch what the natives thought of them when they showed up in Nipland.

>>44709909
See attached.

>>44708638
Yes, I did mean "just asking or a date", and judged the responce by what canon info I know.
>poor communication is the biggest barrier to a relationship with them
They always try to hide their nature, and have weird restrictions, like "don't watch me sew" ,"don't follow me to my fathers funeral", or "don't ask about that one time woman who looked like me killed your mentor", and if you break them they just leave, even if you were fine with what she is afterwards, or if you already have 10 kids. Mythical wives are just weird like that.
>Just from the setting alone even a normal human could make serious waves by rubbing elbows with the right people
I wanted to disagree, but then I remembered Moriya shrine's nuclear power being a thing, so maybe?

>>44669636
Why would you kill her?

>>44723574
The only reasons not to kill her are that if she was murdered there would be some severe retaliation from the Sages, and whoever they put after her would be worse.

>>44714879
>They always try to hide their nature, and have weird restrictions
Like I said, poor communication most of the time. Possibly because in that era, people would in general be more averse to most sorts of non-humans, and therefore they didn't want to drive their partners away. That seems to be pretty consistent as they act ashamed of it when discovered.
>I wanted to disagree, but then I remembered Moriya shrine's nuclear power being a thing, so maybe?
I mean, a normal human making themselves difficult to kill is one thing, but that alone isn't enough to survive unfettered, it'd be more important to ensure that enough influential people like you enough that it would be too dangerous for someone to maim or kill you.

>>44689574
worst picture ive seen all year

>>44731958
I've had the displeasure of seeing a worrisome number of frog and wojak Touhou edits. That sadly doesn't even rank in my 10 worst this year.

Guys dont worry. I'll marry Reimu so she's too busy to stop you guys from marrying youkai