/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>44445335
Adopt a japanese religion. My chosen path is to understand the sounds of japanese and what they actually -mean-

For example, what does で mean?
>B-B-BUT IT CHANGES ON CONTEXT!
No it fucking doesn't. There's one single perception of it that will make all possible uses of it click.

>>44445346
Do you mean apply Shintoism to the etymology of hiragana? Seems a bit obtuse but I get the idea.

>>44445346
WAIT THIS IS GENIUS

>>44445335
>anymore

It never did. Literally only one country speaks the language.

>>44445335
What's with this westoid propaganda thread spam that's been happening recently?

>>44445335
It's use is consuming japanese media in it's original form instead of the censored abridged parody pushing westoid propaganda trying to pass off as a translation.
That sounds like a big use to me.

>>44445335
Learning a language exclusively because it has some practical "utility", like getting a job or something, is generally a bad idea. You need to have a personal interest or reason in learning a language (or any skill) if you really want to see it through to the end. Assuming you're not obligated to learn it through school or living in Japan or something, because then you have external factors to keep you responsible and consistent.

But if by "real utility" you just mean using Japanese for any reason outside of "because I can", then there's loads of reasons to learn it. It's hard to explain or understand until you see it for yourself, but it's more than just reading or watching stuff in Japanese. I saw a post here several years back that described it pretty well, but to quote a small part of it, "At a fundamental level, any time anyone in any way associated with making the stuff you like speaks or writes anything at all, they’re creating more Japanese that would have to be translated for you." People like to think everything's translated nowadays, but ask yourself how often you read articles or watch videos or watch streams or talk to friends or read forum posts or social media posts about your non-Japanese hobbies and interests. Knowing Japanese allows you to do all that with your Japanese hobbies and interests, because that's shit you can't rely on being translated. And this is without mentioning unreliable translations or stuff that isn't even translated. If you just wanted to watch anime without subtitles just so you can say you watch anime without subtitles, then yeah there's no point in learning Japanese. But if you have a genuine interest in otaku culture, then knowing the language it's produced in is insanely useful.

Learning jp enabled me to think more about linguistics, more about history, more about eastern philosophy and culture in general. There's a lot more cross cultural exchange between the japanese, chinese and koreans than either country would like to admit.

There's also a self sufficiency angle like above post said, you don't have to rely on some dog shit translation by some protugese dude in college which is his third language and barely knows english to begin with. By learning you are removing one less barrier to the hobbies you enjoy. In the same way you basically need to learn french, latin or german if you're big into history that's not American.

No real utility just sounds like wagie speak for 'it doesn't get me a job', which it can, but you should fuck off this board if you are being here for the pursuit of anything other than indulging your weeb hobbies.

>>44446248
Continuing off your second half with the topic of translation, there is mountains and mountains of untranslated manga, LN, and doujins that could keep someone entertained for years; this is just part of the available media, there's articles, videos, podcasts, TV, and radio as well. Rather than scraping the barrel of what has been translated, you can instead pick through what isn't and get what you want with relative ease. You can enjoy the new content that comes out right then and there without waiting for translators to get around to it if they haven't decided to drop it for whatever reason.

>>44445753
you will never gain enough skill to properly be able to do that though, you can study every day for hours and in 5 years you will still not be able to properly consume japanese media

>>44446437
No need to project your brainlet issues on me anon.

>>44445346
Not OP but I probably should. I've been reading about Inari Okami a lot.

>>44446456
lol keep fooling yourself

>>44445335
You can always work at a host club and make big bucks. I'm sure there is a sizeable demand for European hosts among rich Japanese women.

>>44445335
was talking to a jap yesterday. I've only got quote to reply, like a bot.

>>44445335
why would I care either way