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lmao this character already got fucked in the West thanks to one translator intentionally being loose with the translation to give it a romantic edge

He translated it as crush to try and pass it off as canonically romantic, and then later made a half-hearted correction to admitting it doesn't explicitly mean romantic, but he knew that before. It wasn't about being truthful or giving an accurate translation, but pushing ideas he personally likes as canon. No one cares about the correction made and hidden, but the initial falsehood shouted. He doesn't even hide his bias since his twitter is full of shipping pics of the character.

Now you have various places online (example: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Characters/TouhouJuuouenUnfinishedDreamOfAllLivingGhost)) touting this as Touhou's first canon lesbian character, because after so many years ZUN has just finally decided to reverse his general avoidance of romance and shipping material.

Sorry anyone who wanted to use this character, shippers have already started asserting their headcanons as canon. Maybe TH20.

>> No.44326102

>>44326031
Not even a shipper myself but who fucking cares? Even without the misleading translation, Hisamu and Zanmu would have been shipped to death solely because of the 'adoration' aspect. Breaking news fucker, shippers have been shipping every character in the series since the dawn of time and often asserting their headcanons as canon. Just ignore them if you really can't stand it or just stop playing the game altogether, jesus christ.

>> No.44326124

>Twitterdrama
Drama fagging tourist we are not gonna attack some troon just because you dont feel like dirtying your hands. And as the first anon said who tf cares.

>> No.44326127

I don't believe a western Touhou fandom exists outside of 4chan so this doesn't affect me.
Hisami is a PAIZURI character and that's all that matters.

>> No.44326157

>>44326124
This is poetic, a post written by an obvious tourist calling someone else a tourist. Who are you quoting?

>> No.44326187

>>44326031
Just learn Japanese and stop caring about those twitter fags.

>> No.44326221

>>44326127
No, she's not a paizuri character, she's a lesbian. She would never be in a situation that would have her give that, don't be a secondary.

>> No.44326229

>>44326157
Im quoting the resume of this retarded OP post, of course you wouldnt understand that because you are that retarded, I can use the quote function whoever the fuck I want so keep crying about it.

>> No.44326251

>>44326221
I've already fapped to paizuri art of her. That makes it canon.

>> No.44326255

>>44326229
You seem oddly hostile! It's OK, I understand this board can be quite a culture shock! Might I suggest returning to /v/ so you can calm down some amongst others of your own kind?

No need to thank me for this advice, please take it easy!

>> No.44326266

>>44326255
>moar crying
Lol.

>> No.44326271

>>44326221
>She would never be in a situation that would have her give that
Zanmu is a canon futa btw, ZUN just tell me this crucial information this morning

>> No.44326272

>>44326266
That's nice, but who are you quoting?

>> No.44326291

>>44326271
>tell
*told

>> No.44326295

>>44326272
(You) /jp/sis!
How about some more (You)'s?

>> No.44326364

>>44326102
There's a world of difference between shipper and shipper who's a translator intentionally mistranslating things to present them as canon. And "just ignore it" is fucking braindead as hell

>> No.44326404

>>44326031
This post is taken word for word from /v/.
Next time please create an original thread.

>> No.44326446

>>44326271
Bullshit. ZUN told me that she has absolutely nothing(ness) down there, like a barbie doll.

>> No.44326452

Thread made by the Toby Fox schizophrenic that has already ruined a few threads

>> No.44326479
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>>44326364
/jp/ doesn't care. Go dramafag about twatter on twatter, faggot.

>> No.44326561

>>44326031
>Sorry anyone who wanted to use this character, shippers have already started asserting their headcanons as canon.
Why are you saying that as if it was our problem?

>> No.44326602

>>44326446
He told me he changed his mind after thinking about it for a long time

>> No.44326612

>>44326364
We still don't fucking care

>> No.44326662

>>44326031
Who cares? The western fandom doesn't create anything of value.

>> No.44326691

>>44326602
He told me he changed it again after having his dinner beer(94 oz) and is going with that she's actually a canologically in love with (me)

>> No.44326698

>>44326479
Not part of this argument, but do note that the same translation has been put up on the wiki. It's not just a Twatter problem.

>> No.44326724

>>44326698
>wiki
Oh I get it now, wiki fags want us to chase a boogeyman, seriously fuck off.

>> No.44326800
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44326800

Hisami is lesbian canon.

Miko is trans canon.

>> No.44326844

>>44326031
Can janny delete this obvious raid inciting thread?

>> No.44326854

>>44326724
Yeah, fuck me for clarifying a misunderstanding. Great. Next time, I won't.

>> No.44326896

>>44326364
I really couldn't care less about a dude whose doing it intentionally or his skills are bad, (you) are still the biggest loser for getting your translations from a guy on fucking twitter.

Get out.

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44326995

>>44326800
I fap to futa and lesbian already

>> No.44327006

>>44326854
You are an annoying fag. Please do us the favor

>> No.44327319

Why should I give a fuck? The fact that she wants to be punished is enough for fans to run with it anyway. I can't imagine actually giving a shit about this.

>> No.44327524

>>44326854
So a wikifag is abusing his power to spread misinformation and not doing his job right, got it.
Isn't there a ban function on shitcord?
Why are you wiki translator retards scared of doing the right thing?

>> No.44327600

>>44327524
>shitcord
>you wiki translator retards
You're barking up the wrong tree.

>> No.44327605

>>44327600
Still a (You) problem.

>> No.44327617

>>44327605
I really don't see how.

>> No.44327622

>>44327524
I imagine the wiki is free to edit with an account after a point like any other fan wiki, but that's not really the issue here as the thread is apparently a literal copy/paste from /v/. And on top of that complaining about a twittertard nobody's ever heard of as if he matters.

At least make it about DekinaiBlue.

>> No.44327631

>>44327617
That in itself is another (You) problem.
Go back.

>> No.44327638

>>44327622
>>44326404
Is there any proof of this? It feels like an awkward way to try and bury this, especially since we know IceFairy posts on /jp/.

>> No.44327650

It's actually sad that wikis are discord-based now
Probably the same outcome as if it were run by a tranny admin back then when discord didn't exist but I'd still say it's worse
Editing wikis online by yourself used to be fun before people made discord communities to gatekeep information
>>44327622
I would say that in current year the MediaWiki interface is just for show due to admins actually moving to discord and being admins there as well
But I'm not that familiar with Touhouwiki and ThPatch wiki so I might be saying a lot of bullshit

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44327654

>>44327631

>> No.44327656

>>44327622
far as I'm aware you still have to request an account for the wiki and wait for it to be approved, but then you can edit it
I've heard rumours that there's power-tripping users who babysit certain pages and revert changes they don't like

>> No.44327657

>>44327638
>we know IceFairy posts on /jp/
Who is we?
Aside from that check the /v/hu general, this faggot got redirected to /jp/ there.

>> No.44327677

>>44327657
He also got called a retard there. OP is just asking for a double whammy

>> No.44327682

>>44327677
As if we didnt have enough with the lowquality crossposting.

>> No.44327805

>>44327657
>Aside from that check the /v/hu genera
I don't crossboard and I don't plan to, post direct post or I'll assume you're bullshitting

>> No.44327821

>>44327805
Spoonfeed yourself.

>> No.44328112

>>44326364
Learn Japanese, you complete moron.

>> No.44328132

>>44328112
You're a moron for missing the point, or knowing the problem and thinking nothing of it. You're the reason Touhou is so fucking shit these days on the Internet. An ostrich covering its head.

>> No.44328156

>>44328132
>You're the reason Touhou is so fucking shit these days on the Internet
>Spammed his Twitter drama cancer in every active Touhou thread
>Keeps bumping his own thread when no one wants you here
No self-awareness

>> No.44328184

>>44328132
If every fan learned Japanese, this literally wouldn't happen.
>You're the reason Touhou is so fucking shit these days on the Internet
You get your translations from a bunch of trannies and then complain when they shove their mental illness into it. You have no one to blame but yourself.
>An ostrich covering its head.
Strange way of saying "reading the original text and not using twitter".

>> No.44328194

Is this a stealth thread?

>> No.44328201

>>44328132
Everyone is calling you an overreacting retard on two boards. Get a hint.

>> No.44328235

>>44327638
>https://arch.b4k.co/v/thread/647364181/#647380290
Fuck you for made me check.

>> No.44328241

>>44328184
>and then complain when they shove their mental illness into it
So what you're saying is... we shouldn't complain or warn others about it?

Are YOU a tranny?

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Is this the thread?

>> No.44328284

>>44328235
That post was made after this thread Anon...

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44328298

>>44328258
possibly, I have yet to find comfirmation

>> No.44328302

>>44328284
Point is he is crossposting this retarded shill.

>> No.44328325

>>44328302
Or someone else posted it. Or maybe you posted it as a falseflag because you really hate OP.

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44328335

>>44328325
Stop samefagging.

>> No.44328350

>>44328335
I'm just asking you why you're so upset that you're defending false statements. The original claim was that this was originally a thread from /v/, then /vg/, now it's that it was later just a post to /v/.

>> No.44328361

>>44328258
What is this dance from? It seems familiar and I'm too half asleep to remember.

>> No.44328373

>>44328350
Anon if you want to bait for bumps that badly at least make it credible.

>> No.44328384

>>44328373
What's your personal issue Anon? You're genuinely upset by this, it's a bit odd. Did your father leave after someone made fun of you on an imageboard?

>> No.44329275

>>44326031
The accuracy or lack thereof with regards to translations will never stop rabid shippers. They took Orin's dialogue about Okuu in the Patchouli Route of SA as "proof" that Okuurin is canon, in spite of every other route having her describe Okuu as awful and the worst, so even if the translation were made more accurate it wouldn't stop them. Best thing you can do is support those who ARE willing to translate faithfully, and not acknowledge twitter retards, because despite how vocal they are, they remain a minority, and tend to drive off saner people anyway. Nothing more to be said, really.

>> No.44329315

The LGBT disease doesn't exist in Gensokyo, and if it did Reimu would execute them permanently.

>> No.44329580

>>44326031
drama drama drama
what are you gonna do bitch, cry? in a fanwork world, complaining achieves fuck all. or you create and enjoy, or you shut up. throwing a fit achieves nothing except create stress.

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44329806

Its true that yuritrannies would have shipped them regardless, but the fact that such a large account as icefairy is spreading misinformation, in order to further push their headcanons is a problem, especially for touhou fans who dont know any better.
But its quite hilarious that yuritroons are thinking that hisami being "the 1st lesbian character" is a win for them, despite that she is a literal degenerate stalker demon, who has a one-sided obsession with someone else... not sure why they would want to be represented by that.
Just remember that yuri ships will never be canon, or be treated as anything but gags or small jokes.

>> No.44330448

>>44329806
>But its quite hilarious that yuritroons are thinking that hisami being "the 1st lesbian character" is a win for them, despite that she is a literal degenerate stalker demon, who has a one-sided obsession with someone else... not sure why they would want to be represented by that.
They completely lack self awareness. In other news, the sun is hot.

>> No.44330649

>>44329806
an actual yuri cuck from hell
lol
meanwhile junko exists as proof that 2hus fuck

>> No.44331434

>>44330649
Don't forget Seiga and Suwako as well. Toyohime, Yorihime, and Chang'e herself from the print works, and probably more than a few others I can't think of right now that universally are/were in straight relationships.

>> No.44331442

>>44331434
Goof grief if you are going to post in a kuso thread a least sage it.

>> No.44331452

>>44331434
Dont forget reimu wanting to summon a male god because she thought he was "handsome" (in the manga with aki eda as the illustrator, of all people) and ZUN just straight up disproving that soga no tojiko is the same person as prince shotoku's wife

>> No.44331461

trannies, jews
bad news

>> No.44331476

>>44328361
Odd loop
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCp2iXA1uLE

>> No.44331496

>>44326031
Who fucking cares what some cunts in twitter are saying?

>> No.44331593

>>44331452
If you're talking about SSiB, Tewi mentioned some other god being handsome in that. Not to mention the manga where Reimu and Marisa get all flustered upon seeing a couple.

ZUN will never put a canon relationship with any more focus on it than that of Yorihime and her nephew, but every single character that's expressed any sort of interest in that has expressed interest in men.

>> No.44331648

>>44331593
That kind of talk can get you banned in certain Touhou communities. No points for mentioning that Miko isn't trans, though.

>> No.44331707

>>44331648
It shows how much troons and other fags have latched onto touhou.... oh well, it has basically happened in every single western online community.

>> No.44331737

>>44331707
Which is why this whole thread is just a pointless shill.
What do OP seriously want us to do about it? This is literally the job of the wikifags.

>> No.44331777
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44331777

the translation of her profile on the touhou wiki was updated to change the wording from crush to adoration

>> No.44332088

>>44331648
Even if we count Miko as "trans," the method she used required her to die. Much like Hisami, a sensible person wouldn't exactly want that to be their "representation." Then again, we're not exactly talking about sensible people here.

>> No.44332097

>>44331777
its gonna be another wiki editing drama incident that leads to somehow zun sending dmcas to piracy sites like the reimu x marisa editor isnt it

>> No.44332142

>>44332097
>reimu x marisa editor
tell me the story anon

>> No.44332149

>>44332097
Probably. These people arent just content with making and consuming yuri content, they, for some reason, want it to be canon so that it invalidates everyone else's headcanons.

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44332689

>>44332097
>wiki editing drama
Nice, wikifags are all obnoxious retards with incredibly bare bones character pages.
I dont see Hizami as a lesbian but im glad the twatter western trooms are rubbing them off so badly they have to resort to 4chan to make them do their dirty work.

>> No.44332692

>>44332142
A yuri troon who liked reimu x marisa edited the wiki without their permission, so that it would say that the two are in love with each other. One of the wiki editors reverted the change and attached a comment calling the shippers "annoying degenerates" which enraged the horde of twitter troons. Some small e-celebs like megapig even threatened to "expose" the wiki with a video. In the end, nothing else happened.

>> No.44333936

>>44332692
>nothing else happened
no surprise, but thank you for sharing anon

>> No.44336914

>>44332692
>Some small e-celebs like megapig even threatened to "expose" the wiki with a video
That sounds hilarious, I wish it happened

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44337044

>>44332692
It's genuinely funny how secondaries treat the wiki like some kind of Akashic Record where, should you change an article, it would automagically become canon. Never fails to make me snicker. Those zany secondaries, I swear...

>> No.44337110

>>44326364
>>44328132
Do something about it, then. Be the difference you want to see. No one's gonna do shit for you, spoiled ass.

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44337304

>>44326031
Who fucking cares you twitter tourist? Go back to arguing with trannies on twitter we do not fucking care about this shit

>> No.44337340

>>44337110
Wiki article has already been corrected by someone with their heart and dick in the right place. It only remains to be seen whether an editor will take issue with their headcanon getting ousted by dictionary definitions.
>>44337304
Shut up, false flagger.

>> No.44337434

>>44337340
>false flagger.
You just learned that word didnt you.
You still have been spamming your shitty thread in both /v/ and here and in both places you have been called a dramafaggingtard so please take your filthy tourist ass out of here.

>> No.44337444

>>44337434
Mate, people are going to take issue with shoddy translations whether or not you scream at them to stick their heads in the sand and stop noticing things. Sorry, but we aren't letting this one go. You can apologise to your Twitter friends for us.

>> No.44337531

>>44337444
>scream at them to stick their heads in the sand and stop noticing things.
Nice deflection, but no one was taking issue here until you came crying and moaning about it.

>> No.44338251

>>44337531
And wouldn't you have just loved that to continue, eh? Well, too bad.

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44338456

>>44338251
>And wouldn't you have just loved that to continue

>> No.44338530

>>44337444
>Sorry, but we aren't letting this one go
You sure showed them by a posting a screencap of twitter here. The hero we always needed!

>> No.44338766

>>44338530
>posting a screencap of twitter
A swing and a miss. I have not posted any X screencaps in this thread..

>> No.44338813

Do you guys think Musk is actually our guy and wants to destroy Twitter? If so, he's good in my opinion.

>> No.44339182

>>44329806
Where did you took the pic? Is that legit? I'm seriously curious.

>> No.44339337

>>44339182
Its from an interview from around 2013, called "the untold history of japanese game developers". One of the people interviewed was ZUN.

>> No.44339722

>>44338813
He's not "our guy", he's just another businessman looking to exploit political beliefs for money while not believing in anything himself. Only diffrence is which beliefs and how he exploits them.

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