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>OP pic
Is that a stereogram? Too flashy.

Somehow, I know everything will work out in the end, and a miracle will occur.

Just think. There are translation projects for games that aren't even released yet that will finish before this.

>>4426664
I doubt out it. Not because I have much faith in this project but because most others are about as productive.

>>4426664
I doubt it. Not because I have much faith in this project but because most others are about as productive.

>>4426559
The guy working on the text issue sent that to me. He's figuring out the image format since that's apparently what the font is.

>>we'll finish sometime in ∞ of ∞
can't wait, and afterwards there's also duke nukem forever.

Why are you guys even translating Hatsukoi? It's not that good, only memorable because of a somewhat decent incest route.

>>4430761

You answered your own question: decent true blood incest route.
The entire 'project' started after some guy reviewed it and said incest was good there.

guy working on the text issue here, this image format is such a bitch

>>4431020
Stop hitting Anzu.

backgrounds are standard bitmaps though, it's everything else that's not

>>4426547
Stop spamming AɳoɳTalk.com with your stupid shit.

...AND WE HAVE OUR FIRST SUCCESS!

>>4431388
Oh god, you cryogenically froze Anzu.

OH SHIT

goddamnit, i can't find where it takes the font from

>>4431893
Good luck, it looks like it ain't going to be easy. Hopefully the interest in the project will return with a proper hack for reinserting the text. Thanks for working on it anon.

Bumping because of /jp/ - Otaku Culture spam

Bumping to get passed the spam again

>>4430761
Nobody likes Komomo?

>>4437382
I like Komomo... ;_;

Yay! A (different) kind of progress is taking place! Hatsukoi Translation thread, are we going to start doing our best again?

>>4440950
Once we have some translation happening, it'll be back to the state it had last year.

Age.

bump

text issue guy here

- they used glib to write their engine. maybe there was a linux version planned
- i still have no fucking clue where the font rendering is done. maybe they linked with freetype or some other linux libs for that too.
- worst case, we switch to another engine.

>>4445014
Not so fond of the idea of changing engines, especially after all the development effort invested in figuring this one out. If it's inevitable, the format of our script files should make it easy.

Translators still wanted. Anything else I missed?

/jp/ - Otaku Culture

I suppose this still works.

Good to see the text issue is finally getting worked on.

>>4445014
Keep up the good work.

Ａｇｅ　ｂｅｃａｕｓｅ　／ｊｐ／　ｉｓ　ｓｏ　ｆａｓｔ　ｔｏｄａｙ．

Ｂｕｍｐ

Keeping it alive

Hey, Hatsukoi Translation Thread. Boof is gone. You are making some progress in these days... come back to first page...

HURERE

Ｕｐ！

Speaking of translations, whatever happened to that general VN translations update thread? Haven't seen it in a week or so.

>>4453427
It was up all day yesterday.

>What is this?
It looks like a colorful loli?

>>4455928
Reminds me of that LOLI RIPE album cover.

Why would anyone want to translate this terrible game?

>>4456823

but but but
>one of the highest rated according to the Japanese

>>4457109
see
http://www.k2.dion.ne.jp/~chitei/jitumai.html

Bork

borka borka borka bork.

Ｕｐ！

Up!

Down!

>>4427206
how did he retrieve these images? im downloading the game, because i like the look of this, and want to extract them

Left!

>>4462027
http://rechan.eu.org/doc/

Once decompressed, the images are standard RGBA bitmaps.

>>4462728
im sorry to be a bother, but how would i go about using this? i have both the game and the tools from the linked site. i see the .img file. is there something else that i need to decompress them?

Sweet dreams, Hatsukoi Translation Thread. Let Hacker-kun do his best tomorrow, ok?

>>4463239
Extract the PGX files from r11d4.g. The PGX header is 16 bytes, which is then followed either by raw bitmap data or GMS compressed data. The dords at offsets 8 and 12 in the PGX header are the width and height, respectively.

Also, a few more random lines from some anon were inserted yesterday. Hardly progress, but still nonetheless.

Not that guy, but I think I'm onto something here.

>>4464625
So you've figured out where it draws the text? Want to post some addresses? The width is certainly going to be hardcoded somewhere nearby.

>>4464636
Damn, how did you know?
Character sizes were hardcoded, but changing them didn't change the width, so I've decided it has some clever way of computing them at runtime and spent 3 days making sense of that object oriented rendering hell.

I feel cheated.

>>4464866

looking awesome, but maybe the line break should be around the "their" as it gets harder to read as the green background fades.

>>4464866
Great effort!
Thankyou for your work!

>>4464866
>Damn, how did you know?
Hint: Think what the 'RE' in REchan meant.

>>4464889
It's trivial to write a script that'll put linebreaks in the correct place, given the character limit. To ameliorate the engine with wordwrapping functionality, however, isn't. Thus, we'll go with the former option, unless >>4464866-kun has figured it out already. Also, try to preserve double-width character rendering too... might need to add a little extra code to do that, i.e.

if(char<127)
width = single
else
width = double

>>4464625
Haha, that's one of my lines. I forgot I did maybe 3 lines of Common. I guess some of what I translated WILL end up in the final after all. Woot.

This looks complicated, a hell of a lot more complicated than I think a lot of people were giving credit for. I hope people realize that it's a real group effort and if everybody doesn't do their part the whole thing fails.

Good luck guys.

>>4464173
glitched image wanting anon here.
thank you for your help. im afraid i cant figure it out (have never tried to do something like this before/no experience other wise) but i appreciate the help.

if somebody whos working on this/has the images extracted (that look like op picture) and could up them somewhere, that would be delightful. however, i realize that that isnt the purpose of this, so if not, thats cool too.

anyway, thanks for your previous help. it was appreciated.

>>4465304
You want deliberately messed-up images?

>>4456382
This? Awesome music.

>>4465508
yes, those exactly. i just really like how they look. i can't figure out how to extract them myself though, much as id like to.

if theres instruction anywhere, or a kind anon whod just upload the extracted ones, that'd be great. dont mind doing it myself, just dont know how.

thanks for another to the collection, though.

>>4464995
If you're good at RE, you should've done it yourself, it wouldn't take half the time it took me.
Anyway, I've tried to preserve wide chars, but to no avail. Space between the chars is not connected to chars themselves and by the time it gets to wordwrapping the actual char values are long lost. OTL

>>4465610
I'd let her touch my power points if you get what I mean.

bump

>Hint: Think what the 'RE' in REchan meant.
Resident Evil?

Ｒｉｇｈｔ！

Bork

borka borka borka bork.

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>>4466400
I didn't have the time. At the very beginning (last year), I did a preliminary inspection. If you give me the relevant addresses/structures I can try to get DBCS and SBCS characters to display properly. It'll require a bit of FE. If you want to try too, this is what I'm thinking:

Where it reads the line to be displayed, one character at a time, add code to store the character somewhere (the early init code or the heap of useless shit the RTL has are good candidates for overwriting with this.) When it actually displays the character, use this stored value to determine the advance width and increment to the width counter. Now it should be able to do DBCS and SBCS correctly.

>>4466400
I didn't have the time. At the very beginning (last year), I did a preliminary inspection. If you give me the relevant addresses/structures I can try to get DBCS and SBCS characters to display properly. It'll require a bit of FE. If you want to try too, this is what I'm thinking:

Where it reads the line to be displayed, one character at a time, add code to store the character somewhere (the early init code or the heap of useless shit the RTL has are good candidates for overwriting with this.) When it actually displays the character, use this stored value to determine the advance width and increment to the width counter. Now it should be able to do DBCS and SBCS correctly.

>SBCS
Spanish Bird Cooking Spaghetti?

>>4469581

>>4470791
Actually, I did exactly that, but my first implementation was faulty and I gave up too early.
Now it seems to work, save/load screen text is too wide now though, but I couldn't care less for now.
The code section is not writable by default and I don't want to mess with VirtualProtect, so I've used the data section. I hope it always loads at the same address.
Also looks like it can't draw newlines, you'll need to pad the lines with spaces.

Some messages are too big even with half-width text, can you insert new ones in the script?

And I have no idea what's up with this.

Not going into details on how you're doing this?

>>4473032
The file doesn't have relocs. It'll always load at the same address. You can always change the section attributes in the header if you want the code section writable. Try a literal \n for a newline.

>>4473043
It should be possible to insert new lines into the script; otherwise, moving part of the text into the next line would also work.

>>4473080
It's a *printf. Look around 4aa2ff or so in the EXE. I haven't figured out where the parameters are coming from though.

>>4473616
I don't have the debug database on me right now, and I'm bad at documenting and organizing stuff anyway.You can check out the exe for the time being. Basically it does what you said, save and replace. Replacing occurs in the wordwrapper and the width is propagated to various structures from there. Save/load screen text follows a different codepath and needs an additional check to disable replacing.
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Looks like everyone is doing their best!

Couple questions...

I noticed we can update multiple lines at once in REtrans, but it's still kinda bulky. I'm free today so I can translate some, but is there anyway I can open it up so I can edit a lot of lines at once?

Also, the submit button when editing 3 lines or so at a time is above the last line, which is a little confusing. Just a headsup.

Oh, also, one last thing...

What has been decided regarding quotes?
Are we using Japanese 「」 or English " "?

>>4476234
er, disregard this. I thought since there were 3 lines visible it meant we could edit 3 at the same time, but it looks like it's still one line at a time ._.

Bunbunmaru did not send me.

Up!

Age.

.

age

/jp/ thread deserving a bump

still waiting for any response regarding a fast way of translating it :/

I tried downloading a dumped script from the past thread but I keep getting an error from the uploader (apparently there are no servers available with the file on them?)

>>4475003
Thanks. A diff should show where you changed the code, so I can study and improve on it. (Next challenge: PROPORTIONAL FONT!) I can also tell you that writing good documentation is an especially valuable asset in RE, and having read much of their work, unfortunately a skill that tons of "crackers" lack. Practice more and you'll get better at it.

>>4476234
>>4476295
!w4lolitaKs was managing a project to update RWI with AJAX which would do exactly that, but that got a little "damaged" by the recent chain of events. I can look into trying to get that restarted again.

>>4476257
The two files that have been completed are overwhelmingly filled with 「」. Let's stay with that. It's also much easier to convert 「」 to "" than the reverse.

>>4478008
Is there any way to edit the script faster? I have free time today so I'd like to add some to Anzu but it's just way too slow to do it line by line on the current interface :/

>>4477923
How fast do you want to go? Analysis of previous logs of a translator running at full speed showed an average of 10-20 seconds per line. That's 120-360 lines an hour.

You might find the keyboard shortcuts useful:
http://retransintl.freewebhostx.com/rwi_um.HTM

>>4478111
that was most likely me.

if i can edit multiple lines at once i can go a bit faster i think, but if there's no other way i'll edit it this way for now. thank you for the shortcuts

>>4478111
average 240 lines an hour, 2 hours a day, 7 days a week --- 3360 lines a week --- done in a few months

even faster if we get a few more translators on it

96 of Anzu has Cheers! in the English side, but there's nothing on the Japanese side... was the Japanese part erased or was the English part put in by mistake?

>>4478481
I cannot explain that. I don't even know how it would be possible to delete the Japanese side. If I were to guess it looks like it belongs at line 98 and not line 96.