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ばかじゃないの。

New event for Twinkle on Friday?

Recommend me some games

thunder girls start really growing on me. especially setsuna and anima when its their tower day and i check the shop.

Got Ripple at 60 rolls. But 100 rolls on summer Fiona:
>Normal Fiona at 20
>Anima (new) and Namiel (got her to 4-star) later
Probably should've stopped at 50 but finally got a few lower rarities to 3-star too, including Luriel and Luluka.

No line about whether or not they're limited or coming back or what in any of the gacha details from what I've seen.

>>44271062
Monster Musume TD

Man Angelic Link gacha has been shit for me recently. It takes a long time to build up spark but I've had to spark or almost spark the last 4 3* that I've wanted. This last one I was one more 10 roll away from spark before I got the banner and I didn't even see a 3* until two 10 rolls before that.

Any confirmation if we're actually getting summer Venus or Ana or Sasha or not?
Also what should I prioritize on the event shop if I'm new?

>>44271062
tenkei paradox

Since I was curious, made a poll since I want to know what games have any population here at all.
https://poal.me/52phq3
If I forgot a game, just add it.

>>44275369
This only matters if you're willing to use a VPN, unless you live in a region that isn't blocked.

>>44274257
Yea, the gem rewards and how much it costs to spark are why I stopped playing that game.
>>44274740
no clue
I prioritize the summon stones and the highest tier skill books.

>>44275852
The only good thing about it is you don't need to roll for the new shit. For an extremely long time I just rolled strong units from the first year and only really changed when I got something new and shiny. One thing that sucks is you can't tell if some weird kit is actually incredibly good, if not actually OP. I missed out on a few of those so I can't one shot the newest kachinuki difficulty but that's basically the only thing I can't do. Well the "pvp" mode is tough for people who actually care enough about that mode but there's more than enough people who don't.

>DMM Player throwing errors trying to launch games
>"Oh no"
>You have not purchased this item
>???
>Kill process and restart it
>Everything is fine
Spooked me.

>>44274257
I suspect the main reason Angelic Link has survived its predecessors (Gemini Seed and now FruFul) is because of the garbage rates and shitty gains. Not that the rates were particularly good in the others.

>25 energy sodas + 3 level ups worth of stamina
>0 SSR equipment drops
i'm not feeling so good, bros

Techcross' 3 games reached a combined 100 million accounts so looks like they're readying up a joint announcement on the 18th.
Do not be a three way collab. I cannot be any more broke than I already am

>>44275369
While the results are about what I expected. I'm surprised there are that many anons still playing Flower Knight Girls.

man i finally got ruriel to 3* and holy shit its so strong. every battle ends at charging whoever went first then ex2 ruriel into ex1 venus one shotting pretty much everything.

>>44282337
I've never seen any of you talk about monmusume

>>44282440
thats probably because people talk about it in vmg thread instead

The KGA banners in Detariki are finally over. I didn't get Ellie or Eclesia so now I go back to sleep.

All this time I've been doing the monthly and weekly missions for the medals/points lotteries and I've never actually clicked the buttons to apply.
wow

>swimsuit ana
The time has finally come

deed done

I just noticed they increased the equipment and amulet limit in Legend Clover to 9999

sasha is by far my favorite girl and it seems like the feeling is mutual

Not punished for sparking swimsuit Fiona and got both in 70 rolls.
>Swimsuit Anna has warp slowest to second front ally and dark Symphonic Blast
>Swimsuit Sasha has multi-hit attack buff skill with propel
Dark has improved drastically with their implementation.

>start the game for ana and yomi
>got a lot of 3*s on the way including yomi, but no base ana
>got mahamut, lilia, irena, and swimsuit sasha before actually getting her in her own gacha
>still no base ana
I don't think Ana likes me. Really hope I win the 60% later on the fire shard
>>44286271
Absurd

>>44286397
fire shard now has mahamut in the pool, good luck anon.

>>44286391
Shit, did Nezemine just get powercrept?

>>44286414
Oh FUCK this game. I'm gonna be so mad if I don't get her later

holy shit, let me fuck my mom

>>44286391
Would be funny if they decide to balance the game by adding a Luriel-like to each element

>>44286391
im tempted to roll for anna just because of her skills, but i have the feeling that i shouldnt. im not really into lolis and sasha on her own seems to be plenty strong.

>>44286247
They also made 4Gods sweepable.

>new boss is actually using turbo light + ripley taunt with shield against us
this is pretty annoying to fight

>>44286397
>start the game for ana
>get her from the first 30% blue crystal thing I open
Sorry anon, she loves me

free 3000 gems for some gacha display bug

my venus got dethroned by a quite large margin lol. how does the game even count battle power?
also im not sure how to feel about boss health inflation happening so fast, lv50 ripple has alreay over a million health, but then ive seen sasha hit for like 950k only on self buffs without any boosts too.
>>44287294
what was the bug?

>Nothing in 70
>Fucking Sariel from red ticket
This game can start to fuck off

>>44287435
*4. that explain a lot. the increase between * is huge. just make sure you go full autist with math if you want to throw luriel buff to venus


last time al'motahel got around 900k, so it's kinda tame compared to whale -> reaper doubling it's HP

>>44287435
I think they showed Swimsuit Ana as a Def type instead of a Sup type on the gacha page

>>44287581
>*4. that explain a lot. the increase between * is huge.
but my venus still has higher hp, atk, skill levels and only a little lower crit. i dont really get this battle power rating.

>got ana at 30 and two sasha at 100
Nice.

>>44282440
I sometimes tell octopus anon that there is octopussy on rateup. Like now for example, there is a swimsuit octopussy on rateup.
>>44282556
also this

started playing the game for sasha, so I had to roll even if she isn't limited. dark team was really hurting too. ana can fuck off I guess.

Pain. But it's worth it. Guess I'll be skipping the next few banners.

that event weapon seems really good this time around. attack/crit up for demons. considering how hard it is to farm story weapons, that seems incredibly good.

>>44286416
Nezemine is still good. A fundamental problem with this game is that skills don't go on cooldown and you can only use one per turn, so characters are only as strong as their best skill.
Summer Anna should basically never be using her EX1 because her EX2 is so much more impactful. Venus, Luriel, Mahamut, and Summer Sasha, who also have 2 good EX skills, are similarly linear.

Rinko's *teleports behind you* looks really cool. Tempted to roll for her once she's on rate-up.

>>44286416
different skill
neze pull any char on last position (pull all tied char)
s.anna pull char with highest ct stat regardless of their position (and only leftmost char if tied)

>>44288744
Unless I'm missing something, EX2 isn't particularly useful right now since most of the bonus units are water, and there aren't a whole lot of good darks right now anyway.

But between Luriel and Summer Fiona buffing their respective elements, I'm sure Summer Ana will see use in the future.

>>44289790
Ah, so that's how that works.

>>44289790
>pull
wooooo

Very nice
Tempted to keep rolling because I'm new and still don't even have Luriel, much less Venus, but I'm also not crazy about Sasha so maybe I'll just save and use S.Ana with base Fiona for now

>>44290735
You don't really have to pull for S.Sasha. Her and Fiona have similar DPS after S.Anna's EX2 buff. The main reasons to use S.Sasha instead are that she has lower CT, the potential for AoE knockback in a pinch, and her damage skill costs less EX gauge.
Also, you would need to pull Luriel 11 times for her to be useful.

Ana/Sasha aren't limited right? I couldn't find anywhere that says they are, same with SFiona

>>44291853
If we're lucky, Kuma-san might have realized very few limiteds is actually healthy for a game's performance due to MonmusuTD performing vastly well without relying on them. It has more than enough games it could trivially pull collabs with for collab limiteds nobody would begrudge as well.

>>44292013
Even mist train has toned it down this summer so hopefully.

Well, finally I can quit Twinkle, I knew my insterest wouldn't hold after I have to spark Venus banner and after being unable to get Anna I finally have a reason to quit.

Got Sasha in one roll, I should probably just take this as a win and save since rolls are expensive and income is quite slow now that the launch bonuses are gone.

>>44292885
>>44286419

I need to start saving for Kuroto's mom

Finally. After years I've managed to save up 2000 SC. With all the gibs we're getting this anniversary year it doesn't feel that much anymore, but at least I stuck to it until the end. Now I can waste it all on offbanner dupes.

Soldier and Sorcerer challenge stages up

>>44291853
even if it isn't limited, do you have confidence pulling them later when they got added to standard pool?

Is she getting an event/banner/something? There is an ad ingame but couldn't access it via app.

>>44296791
I think the banner was about a survey or something

Man you guys are lucky, had to spark Ripple and now no sign for Anna and Sasha. Currently spending money on monmusu, dont want to spend money in another game...

Well this was an incredibly nice surprise. Got her off of the small blue gems that only have a 30% chance of giving an SSR. Lightning was the last team I didn't have an SSR for and she is the best one in that element.

>>44294295
Nice. The most SC I've had on-hand is no more than 1.4k and that's only because I was able to grind all these history missions that released this year. Can't imagine holding off from splurging for years.

Even though twinkle censors ochinchin etc, the script feels a bit dirtier than other vanilla dmm games

Any titfags here super excited for the Kyonyuu Fantasy game? Got the huge tittied brown elf in pre-reg so I am fucking set.

>>44296791
>>44296853
survey for 300 gems
also the survey didn't have any open ended questions where I could complain about the UX for the dailies being dog shit.

>>44300333
Question 14 though?
今後改善して欲しいと思うことや不満点・ご意見・ご要望がございましたら、ご自由にお書きください。

My game bugged and Yomi turned into a ghost

Let us skip directly to floor 50 in these boss events

>>44298467
I'm not sure if this is the standard because I haven't played any other DMM games but compared to your standard VNs it surprisingly has a lot of praising how manly the main character is and begging for pregnancy

Shield, taunt and confusion is cancer to fight against.

>>44301927
Just be faster bro and stun her.

>>44302165
>Perfect start
>S.Ana rumbles and gets stunned
Every time

>>44301927
>letting Ripple have turns

>>44302221
That happens to me about 25% of the time going from level 40 onwards, but outside of that it's smooth sailing even with this team. Chaining Ana's EX2 and Sasha's EX2 is just ridiculous. Yomi's carrying me so hard with her huge EX gain stat.

just wow. sasha on her own catapulted my dark team from weakest to probably strongest. i would dare to say that shes even stronger than venus. her ex1 is doing really good damage, with good self buff and some gentle ally push and she can also push back enemies with ex2 that also pushes dark allies.
shes fast, both of her skills are really good and shes mad cute. i fucking love her so much, shame that you cant have both sashas on the home screen.

Is the event weapon good enough to keep multiples of?

>>44302575
Kept getting multiples of Anna, don't think I can get her now. At least she's not limited.

>>44303024
>Is the event weapon good enough to keep multiples of?
have you ever made a team with 2 dps? or 3 dps with same race/weapon during racial battle?

>>44303024
i keep one spare just in case but im a hoarder

>>44303231
It has EX stat so I figured it might be useful just do a turn 1 nuke on auto or something

Thinking about it, is Luriel actually really just meant to be Uriel, as in the archangel?

>>44305943
ウリエル in legeclo, so probably not

>>44305982
That's the thing. ウリエル isn't actually the proper translation of Uriel as it implies the wrong pronunciation. Uriel is pronounced starting with /j/ instead of /u/. As in Loo-riel instead of Oo-riel. ルリエル would be a correct transliteration.

>>44306381
wouldn't ユ be closer than ル? also just googled a list of angel names and nothing comes close to her japanese name. also checked the general jp wiki for uriel and it's spelled the way it is in legeclo.

>>44307149
After thinking about what to look for, I ended up finding Uriel in Japanese wikipedia. It seems they do use ウリエル for him.
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/ウリエル
It seems they may have went with the original Hebrew pronunciation which has apparently fallen out of use in all English as far as I can tell as all English pronunciation sites pronounce it with the /j/ instead of /u/. Which make Luriel's possible English name very confusing as it can translate both to Uriel as it is already used in English or Luriel or Ruriel.

This is why translating names sucks.

5SC code

Wait, does skipping Ripple fights on level 50 really take 5 tickets? Does it give you rewards for 1 run or for 5 runs?

I finally saved up 99 keys. It seems the odds are about 50/40/10. It might be something a bit off like 49.5/39.5/11 as well.

>>44307388
Apparently the apocalypse horn blowing angel is Uriel, so you were probably right. I thought it was just some no name angel that had the trumpet.

>>44308241
costs 5 tix for 1 run's worth of rewards
do you rike it?

>>44309901
That would be Gabriel, not Uriel.

>>44310154
Better than sitting on 100+ tickets by the end of the event like last time I guess...

>>44307388
afaik, luriel isn't one of the 4 archangel in this game. so far revealed one is magdalena (and maybe tamaki)

Spent 350 SC for Rinko and got Yukikaze and Wirbel in the process. No platinum taimanin though.

>>44308241
It's worth it I would think, unless you don't have much in the way of bonuses.

I suddenly can't use DMM Game Player looks like they are extending the block to it. Can only get through with VPN

Kinda don't like how dark requires a little thought. Light you just spam Kaoruko EX2 and Venus EX1 and not give any shits since you go so fast. At least dark has an easier time to get started since you don't need to buff stack for a couple turns and can knock back everything. It's just that it of course requires both banner characters.
>>44312501
I'm surprised it took so long for you to get blocked.

Which ex to upgrade for s.sasha? They both seem good.

>>44313605
Depends on what units you already have in your team and what roles you need filled.
If you need damage, invest in EX1. If you need knockback, invest in EX2.

>>44313466
>>44312501
It works fine to me, maybe keeping outdated has something to do I wonder if there is something bad about it

Is fruful not doing anything 'fun' for EoS? I just see a few introductions for other games.

>>44314270
Think they are trying hard direct people to Angelic Link

>>44314282
>3-star rates are 2.5%
>Pickup is sub 1%
The only thing they do well is skip spam being somewhat streamlined compared to other games.

>>44314361
1% is standard for most games though?

>>44313605
i only took her ex1 to 8 so far because i needed a damage dealer for the dark tower anyway. cleared floor 30 today and her damage is pretty absurd, she one shots everything on the very first turn so she never even utilizes the buff aspect of it. similarly ive seen her hit for 1mil on the event boss without the multiple ticket boost.

>>44313605
personally, will wait for next hard boss
currently able to beat lv50 ripple without multiplier on skill lv 1 for both sasha and anna, so no upgrade needed right now

>>44314270
Last spurt campaigns start on the 16th.

>>44314361
0.7% for pickup and the rest is split among either 3 or 6% depending on the banner type. Double banners did not split the pickup percentage like other games, so you would have a 1.4% chance of pulling something new. Most banners didn't have an exchange ceiling, but the strongest units had a 200 roll ceiling. They also gave out a fuck ton of rolls. I would rate their gacha as being extremely generous. Probably the reason it died just like Dragalia Lost.

>>44310203
I just typed "horn blowing angel" into google and it popped out Israfil. Then I searched for different names for that angel and got "Isrāfīl has no clear counterpart in the Judeo-Christian tradition, though some scholars have drawn connections to Raphael, Uriel, or Seraphiel." But there is also that one anime gabriel dropout and she has the apocalypse horn as well, so who knows. A bunch of the search results said Raphael is the horn blower.

>>44310203
>>44316759
There are many different legends concerning angels and trumpets. Gabriel is specifically famous for blowing the horn for judgement day, but there's also the seven trumpets of revelation which is similarly apocalyptic, but is 7 trumpets blown in sequence, each by a different angel. Rather angels are shown blowing trumpets for all sorts of reasons and the iconography of any angel with a horn is extremely common from cherubs to archangels. Israfil is specifically the horn blower for Judgement day in Islam which also does have Gabriel and Michael, but the other 2 are Israfil and Azrael as the main 4 archangels in Islam instead of Uriel and Raphael. Israfil has been associated with both Uriel and Raphael due to this.

Due to ancient legends just being very old and mostly word of mouth until printing came along, most legends have a lot of figures be interchangeable.

>>44307626
Thanks.

>>44317352
>>44317362
>more swimsuit dorks
nice

Did 50 more rolls and got Ana. Dark team feels pretty good with the two banner units and Nezemine. Also bought Sasha's accessory before the wiki updated and it didn't give any knockback or an extra hits at max unbind. Is there anywhere to check what the max unbind bonuses are in-game?

>>44319292
go to menu in main screen.
menu -> encyclopedia -> equips
you can see all equip stat at lv 1 and max lv

Kyonyu fantasy prereg gacha is brutal. Got one SSR so far but she was so ugly I kept the SR.

I need the new Kyonyuu Fantasy game to come out already. It is literally made for (Me). If the game focuses on paizuri as much as Edel Grenze focuses on monster rape then my dick will never recover until it reaches EOS.

Holy shit why can't we farm more of those god damn medals, I get that eventually we'll probably have too many to use just like everything else but aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

hell yea, won the 30% chance turn in on the fire gems.

they keep releasing new whores, just redirect that budget to their other gachashit. It also gives good insight on how far ahead they plan their content.

weird, I got them all within 100k gems. Still got 50k gems on an alternate account in case they release even more sluts next week.

>twinkle is still getting first place
is this still the honeymoon period or is the game actually a huge success? at this point they gave out so much free shit for first places its unreal

>>44325648
No one would deny the game is a huge success but not like there were a lot of competitors, there's nothing else notable going on at the moment, and pretty much all the new releases were shovelware or fucked itself up like Shangri la.

>>44325648
Literally the only other big game right now is Monmusu which could only get second place with 2 new shiny subskill+L ticket packs yesterday. However, the real dealmaker is the countless flash sales Twinkle throws at you which apparently Nips buy the shit out of. They show up for literally any reason, so there's constant sales every day. Twinkle's honeymoon period will end I reckon when most people have their towers mostly complete as they're a huge source of the constant flash deals.

>>44325807
>towers
man i wish they would expand the tower with weekly reset or something because it feels kinda dumb to have a weekly quest there while the tower is complete already.

>>44325807
Monmusu could have gotten first if they put the princess sisters on a banner instead of making them subskills.

>>44325807
can't believe people actually buy that shit.
>>44326154
yea, I thought that new moon tower would reset monthly based on the name at first, but then I breezed through it with one unit and realized the rewards were way too high for that to ever happen.

>>44327226
Yep. Them being tokens just makes them restrictive and cheap-feeling compared to other characters for no good reason. Having them be paywalled is a slap in the face, too.
If other NPCs keep getting subskill'd, I'll be so disappointed.

Some hero made a fruits viewer, check the panda comments. Didn't give it a thorough look through, but it seems like it is only missing the 4th anniversary units that just came out and the story H-scenes. Looks like the gambit of being a lazy piece of shit and hoping someone else would preserve everything paid off. Only scenes I'm going to record are the non-H short comedic scenes for the few characters I like.

>>44333457
He's the same guy making alot of viewers. Hopefully he bothers to do Ryuusei World Actor The Strange World one day

>perfect rocket start
>enemy beats my speed character to the line
That ripple fight was incredibly annoying at level 50. I will gladly pay 5 tickets to never have to play that trash again.

>>44335074
Just let me skip through the early floors if I cleared the event last time...

This new boss is a piece of shit, super close to rumble even with perfect on these lower difficulties. It also seems like light would be fucked since they need time to ramp up, almost like they made this boss especially for people who have Ana/Sasha.

>>44340026
>Meruel has damage bonus
It really isn't.

>>44338896
Disagree with this since they are different elements and different enemy types. Doing well on one boss doesn't mean you will do well against a different one. If it was a rerun of the same boss then I would agree.
>>44340026
Agreed, incredibly annoying fight even with speed characters.

>>44340317
pretty sure he was talking about the ripple boss since sasha/ana are the units on the banner for that fight.

>>44340327
I'm not saying all of them, at least like 20~ floors where you can still auto through them. Not trying to sit through the opening animation 50+ times.

Just cleared the mock battle for the hardest difficulty unicorn with Sasha/Ana/Nezemine dark team core with Sasha/Namael to fill the empty slots. Considering I couldn't beat the reaper, this felt pretty good. I have a Meruel team that can do 2/3rds of it's hp if I mess up.
>>44340441
Yea, I could get on board with that.

Pretty nice roll. One day Venus will show up.

>>44340760
I am horrendously jealous

>>44340317
>no damage taken
Yeah idk how you managed that, did 10 trial runs and none of them could get 1/4 hp down because Venus literally never had a turn. Those fuckers having a literal 6* stun gauge skill really puts the cherry on top. At least it's basically free with my dark team as long as rng doesn't tell me to fuck off at the start.

Is it a bad idea to roll on four unit focus banners in Aigis? I want Leone now, but I might get spooked by her in the future.

>>44341533
As I said.
>Meruel has damage bonus
Don't even give a shit if anybody besides Luriel gets rumbled. Rather it rarely happens if you just put in low CT supports/speed types for everybody else.

>>44342284
It absolutely is a bad idea. Like it's only permissible if you want at least 3 out of 4 of the blacks on the banner. If you want a specific old unit, I would literally just recommend buying a pick ticket, but at that point, there'd probably be a dozen other units you'd probably want to pick over her if you did. Anyways there's not too much point to Leone now since the removal of stamina unless you're willing to manually do all your gold daily farming rather than using commission tickets.

The Midnight Girls R challenge battle was dick breakingly hard. I don't think there is a chance of clearing it without the two on the right with their joker skills unlocked. Extremely fun though.

>>44342495
I gave this a try today. It just werks.
Luriel was 3 stars with a level 40 accessory and 7/10 EX2. Meruel was level 100 with a level 40 3 star fist but no accessory and 5/10 EX2.

I still have no fucking idea how big Meruel's AoE actually is. I just targeted the enemy in the middle vertically.

Nice sort kmg

Ana is ugly, will never roll for her.

Ana is a hot loli, will roll for every limited skin

>>44342495
>23k atk
What the shit.

>>44348169
Max LB Luriel accessory and level 10 Symphonic Blast. It is not an investment I see becoming obsolete anytime soon. My Meruel has a level 50 Fist, is 4*s, EX2 level 7, and LB0 accessory, so there's room for growth still.

Ana is neither ugly nor hot, I rolled her because she had a good kit.

Well ok that's kinda weird.

Ana is cute and anal is hot, will always roll for cute girls with anal scenes

>HS Risley available in a week
Earlier than I had expected, but holy fuck I don't want to wait anymore.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=mhFR5RZEvIs
3 way collab indeed it seems between LegeClo, KamiPro and Ayarabu.

Too bad they picked the most boring girls possible except for like, Arthur.
I'm sorry Ten but I'm not gonna ever like Jeanne no matter how hard she's pushed. Simply the inferior main heroine.

>>44351579
Legeclo getting the superior Sol though.

Gave up trying to farm the light staff in Twinkle and started farming iron swords/the dark armor for Sasha instead. I should have farmed iron swords first to equip to my level 1 characters, but I really wanted that staff.

>>44351874
I've had enough Sol calling me リーダー for a lifetime, pass.

>>44351874
>knocked out from falling from the dumb bait banner
>actually need a main and support from sorcerer banner
>this
they better have mid scenes

https://twitter.com/flower_staff/status/1692461342161358940

FKG x DraPri/Slobbish Dragon Princess

>>44352092
>try to farm 3* equip
>get flooded with useless 2*
>decide to farm useful 2*
>get useless 3*
such a wonderful system

Shangri-la's finally getting the blonde elf girl in a few days.

Think I'm capping at 240 stamina at lv90+ in twinkle

>>44355986
Close to level 100 and still at 240 as well

>>44351874
Why did I spend in the summer gatcha...

>>44353262
Not sure I would call the lightning/shadow armors useless since they are the best in slot armors for that element's DPS characters, but they are definitely less useful than weapons. The 2 star armor on the light staff stage gives 12% crit at level 50, but I'm hesitant to upgrade it since hammers are so incredibly scarce in this game. The only real source of them is the boss event we get every other week, and you really are only going to get them all if you roll for the banner characters. Even the daily with +100% and three entries gives 1 gold hammer if you're lucky. That's my only complaint with the progression in the game.

>>44357363
> but I'm hesitant to upgrade it since hammers are so incredibly scarce in this game
this. I'd rather upgrade EX up armors instead of DPS armor since skill rotation beat is king in this game in general unless you use one hit kill team like meruel's

>>44357363
Speaking of best in slot, does Fiona prefer the 3* book, the sword or the mace? She's my main DPS right now and I've no idea if +atk%, +crit% or magic affinity is more important. The book also has EX up so there's that.

>>44357498
>Fiona
which one

>>44357513
Base

>>44357498
Not sure how attack calculations are done, but I'm guessing it depends on how built your Fiona is. (2970 atk from levels/stars + 432 from weapon + 720 from accessory) * 1.32 (dark armor gives +16% attack) = 5441 vs (2970+648+720) * 1.16 = 5032. You would have to weigh the 8% damage difference with the 30 EX up and decide which one is more important. The book is probably better until you get her to 5 stars, but there isn't any info about her attack at each rarity on the wiki.

>>44357498
>>44357513
personally, I see fiona as a support rather than dps, so I won't invest on atk or crit.

buy if you want to use her as main dps, I prefer to use the weapons with affinity. as it transfer over in your total atk stat in char stat window. +atk% or other weapon passive that won't show in char stat are not accounted to your basic atk stat and hence it will trigger diminishing return when you stack other atk% source from support buffs. crit weapon are also fine in this case but full upgraded crit weapon/armor will need more investment in stamina/orb/hammer

and since I touch upon buffs, I believe from these
>>44342495
>>44348169
that racial bonuses for the event is multiplicative

all is Sol
Sol is all
all becomes Sol
Sol becomes all

Let me turn off skills in full auto in twinkle

Did you guys know this was timed? Also able to one shot it with Charlenne/Luciel/Meruel without either support being 3 stars. Charlenne's skill is level 1 and Luciel's is level 5. Think I'm going to replace Magdalene with a rando lvl 1 speed unit from any other element because she isn't doing anything and I have to reset a ton to the horse fucker outspeeding Meruel.

>>44365452
Meruel is my most invested character though. She is also 4 stars.

>>44365452
>>44365550
It has always had a timer, I almost timed out during the whale fights.
Why did you max out Meruel ex1 before 2 though?

Tenpara minigame riding that Vampire Survivors fad

>if the boss acts once, you have to restart
>too new or clueless to easily one shot
They should let you skip levels lower than 50, this event is a fucking pain to climb.

>>44365864
For the bonus hits to build rush and also to deal with things like this >>44366065. I already had the accessory, so going from 700% to 758% damage is only 8% more damage on s2.

756%*

>>44366019
Now I'm wondering why there isn't a Vampire Survivors gacha yet.

I really fucking hate how these dumb elemental towers are limited. Just let me clear the whole damn thing when I want to ffs.

>21 wins to unlock the last character
Guess I have nothing better to do

seems like ouji movement speed and unlocking 5 girls then rushing the boss seems like the best strategy

>>44367795
for me, unlock 5 girl (4 range + 1 healer) + piercing bullet for ranged chars + atk speed; and do exploration without leveling to find the mirror asap and grinding near it

Man why can't Twinkle put their news in the DMM Player verison? I never know when maint or updates are coming which ends up wasting a whole shit load of stamina.

>>44376787
Look at the bright side, you have full stamina for the new event

>collect all 40 swimsuits
>Don't you have better things to do?
No Cristina, I don't

Nice try Esmeralda with your healing all status effects, but im saving up for Kuroto's one chance not blood relatedmom and Wisteria.

>koharuko is in
time to spend these tix

>5 new floors for the main tower
>finish it in 10 minuets
Welp, that was fun while it lasted. 35 being a wave fight was annoying but didn't really cause issue for my 3 star clear.

>>44377571
They'll be adding new floors in batches up to 50.

>>44377615
Nice. It's good content and I like that it has no cost and can be done at any time. Makes for a good place to test stuff when your out of stamina.
In other news, finally got all the current 1 and 2 star girls ranked up to three stars. Time to start saving the tickets now.

>>44377756
you're*

is the new event just a whale bait or what? i spent like 1k stamina and im only 120/200 on the first box lol. feels like a week is nowhere near close to enough time to get to the new girl.

I think you can just skip to her box if you want to. Probably can't go back, but I'm probably going to skip the A report boxes myself and skip any tickets/gems I miss after getting the 5 star orbs. They don't give out enough demon/angel/human books for you to run out of those.

>>44379093
how do you skip it? i thought that you have to get everything and then you can go for next box

>>44379426
I could have sworn the infograph said you can move to the next box once you got the good stuff. That's generally how these loot box events work in every game I've played. I'm assuming the button in the top right takes you to the box you are looking at.

>>44377857
Assuming you get 10 days of stamina regen and have no stamina refill items, you will need to spend over 1000 gems a day refilling stamina to clear all 9 boxes.

>Esmeralda's skills.
What did she do to deserve this?

My VPN does not seem to be able to bypass DMM region check. What is everyone else using?

>>44381106
Nvm, it is working again. Though weird that it directs to another tab with the dmm not available in your region message, compared to the usual error pop-up.

>>44381025
I can't even imagine how they're gonna buff her and the other healers. They need complete reworks.

I should finish up bullying Ripple
>Two of them now
>6-hit shield spam
>Stun one but the cohorts just move her to the front and chain spam note advances
>Go back and turn on 4x damage
I know I have Yomi and probably a few other buff deleters but this can get out of hand pretty quickly.

>>44381025
Coffee addiction.

>>44381220
It's partially why they have the 80% HP requirement for clears, but most really need an additional benefit aside from the heal getting stronger for on-element members. Most don't really help open up an opportunity to recover from a low health situation when they're eating SP too.

>>44381456
Healing and tanking just don't work in the current game meta when it's all about kill or be killed first, prolonging the fight just give bosses more chance to get a jump on your team and swiftly delete them. And honestly I don't know how could they make it work later unless they have to revamp the whole combat system.

Don't think healers will ever be usable in serious content like the whale/reaper/unicorn or event level 50 bosses. Everything does too much damage to consider trying to tank something rather than kill it. Also everything is timed, so tanking hits isn't going to get you closer to killing a boss and will just waste time. Even if I wanted to try out Healer/Tank it would take months of gathering hammers to get a full set of level 50 armor for the whole team. There isn't even a guarantee that a fully built team would even be able to tank boss hits, it might require 5 stars on everyone to reach that point.

>dmm game
>has a poorly thought out combat system with shitty unit balance
many such cases

>>44381788
>>44381796
Ripple's hit-count shield has helped with dodging the current racial boss' 3sp nuke and they nullify knockback. Without it I'd have to focus on keeping the boss knocked back instead, which isn't possible to keep up when I'm trying to get a nuker ready.
Haven't tried any of the HP-shields but those also seem to expire rather quickly.

Equipment is a different issue altogether but I tend to hate most games that implement such a mechanic since it always feels like trash management.

Both player and enemy damage were senselessly inflated with gacha game numbers while they forgot to touch HP and healing. The complete lack of defense as a stat also makes the damage part even more dumb.
It feels like the system would be far more workable if they simply made damage and HP in the single digits. Bosses like level 50 Ripple or the biweekly bosses would have 50 HP. Your side would have like 5-15 HP depending on the classes in your party with barriers functioning like 1 hit shields exactly like before. Healing would be significant since the enemy couldn't ever one-shot the party.
If I actually knew Japanese and hadn't already answered the survey, I'd really advise them to start from a minimal numbers setting before trying to scale up the gacha stats as it's clear they need an actual base to work off of.

>finally get a good run going on the last stage unicorn
>time out
oh FUCK OFF give me my ticket back

>>44371220
Irene is so cute, was willing to spend jims rolling for her but if she is a gacha box reward cool, I will keep hoarding until an interesting banner appears.

They made the free character better than the gacha character...?

>>44381796
Honestly, they should just change how defender and healers operate (maybe spd too). Defenders should just move up or push everyone else up whenever they get hit. I don't know what they could do to healers without just doing something like legeclo where they just made them another dps, maybe give them an ailment null so they can actually do their job. Spd just feels like a shittier atk/supp class

>>44383148
Said gacha character is probably the worst character in game with 2 heal skills.

>>44379534
ohh i get it now. so you can skip only after you get the big item, but its still random when you will get that item.

>>44383148
>free character
"free". you need 30k dmm points to get her to *5

Just got Yomi from a yellow crystal, anyone played around with her skill 1? Thoughts? Being able to stop Ripple from casting her barrier for example sounds pretty handy.

Man I was eagerly waiting for Esmeralda but I guess I get to save my gems.

>>44384142
And before that, you need to spend 10k+ gems worth of stamina refills to get her to 4 star, although unlocking her base 3 star form is much cheaper.

>>44384386
Her EX1 isn't very good because the seal has a low activation chance and can only hit one of the multiple Ripples at a time.

>>44384434
Same. I was shocked to see her released so soon but relieved when I saw how bad she was. Kinda hoping she'll get a usable alt eventually

>>44384475
>you need to spend 10k+ gems worth of stamina refills to get her to 4 star
coincidentally, you get 9600 bonus free gems for buying those packs

>>44384142
Why did you even bring up 5*ing her as a counterpoint to being free

they also need to stop balancing the racial battle bosses around getting perfect rocket starts or exit the battle

>>44384571
question, is there a *5 unit that you can't get for free so far?

>>44384728
>Perfect rocket start
>Rumble

>>44384780
Sometimes Luriel can act first or she has to rumble, and loses but thats because I havent decided on what 3 star lvl 50 weapon to give her yet. Also dont know if she should just wear the stupid maid apron ビビ神のメイド服 or some double EX armour.

>>44384780
>>44384918
Just put in the fast doggo into your team, so they can knock away the fastest Alicorn.

>drunk and sleepy trying to parse comments on Esmeralda's wikiru page
>can't understand shit
>perfectly understand the guy commenting that this was originally a nukige so just roll with your dick
Hah.
>>44384918
Luriel is never going to be strong enough to win an opening rumble against anything if it isn't super weak compared to your team.

>>44384941
Yomi?
>>44384956
She barely loses the rumble against the first Alicorn with her lvl 40 card weapon so im thinking about maxing out a Nova Rod for her.

>>44384993
I meant Katia, but I just realized Setsuna the cat ninja is 1 point faster. These 3 are the fastest in the game so just add one of them or all of them really to ensure you never have to deal with rumble again.

>>44385052
Luriel is only 1~2 points slower, does it really change that much? There's a bunch of times when Luriel doesn't even get to act

>>44385119
As >>44342495, I haven't really had to restart at all outside of missing the perfect start. Simply having 4 characters capable of outspeeding instead of just Luriel makes getting the first move trivial. It's a matter of odds, so stacking them in your favor helps. If you do Luriel into Meruel 1-shot, then there's literally no reason to not have the other 3 be speed characters.

>perfect rocket start
I'm utterly incapable of doing this, this bullshit desperately needs some leniency

>>44385225
It's when the circle is slightly more inside rather than having equal let either way for when it's directly on the circle for some reason. So you always have to do it slightly late.

I hope FruFul adds a way to get previous event units somehow. There's a lot from before I started that I want.

>>44385333
its about to end next thursday so just get the viewer from sadpanda.

>>44385546
how?

>>44385546
I suppose that's an option. Does it download assets you request for an offline mode?

>>44383169
Do defenders lose rush when they get attacked with taunt up? That's another problem I just thought of. If they do, they should probably change the taunted hits into rush building. Amu and Magdelene seem like they were made for each other. Amu tanks the hits and eats stuns while Mag heals her, increases weight, and removes her stun. If light had a unit to teleport the last position to the front, it might be viable.

>>44383868
Yep, got the orb at 40 pulls and reset with all this stuff left in the box. Top right is the button to move to the next box. A warning message pops up telling you that you can't go back once you move to the next box. Not going to prioritize a ticket/300 gems/10 summon shards over the new character and her pieces.

>>44385845
140 pulls left*

>>44384993
How? At absolute max she gets 954 base atk. High level shit has 1500-2000 so unless you're really good with equipment and have her max I can't see how she would ever get close to winning a rumble.

>>44386090
Remember, angels get attack bonus this boss.

>>44386090

what is this overdrive gacha pachislot shit

>>44371220
I wonder who the middle girl is. The 4-tip stars remind me of Kuroto's stars, made me think she might be one of the Demon Lord successors for a bit.

>950k one shot to the last unicorn with Meruel buff with Luriel
>>44385052
I added all of them and it took me from really shaky wins to winning every time unless I miss the quick start.

Gina kinda has resting gangimari face.

How many iron swords did everyone build? I'm at two fully built and I'm thinking about farming a third then moving back to the light staff. They also added a new hard level with the light staff + the generic +atk% crit crown, so I can farm that instead of the gauntlet level.

Today I learned that attack % buffs in Shangri-la (from memory drive dupes or buff skills) are only based on the pilot's base stats combined with their ride gear's stats. All stats from memory drives and custom parts are ignored.

>queue interrupt skill
>get hit by frozen status
>assault gauge stolen
wow
pls, the skill selection interface is bad enough as it is

Hammurabi is carrying my sorcerer challenges/origin ex like crazy
She really deserves that I roll snegs/marduk for her, but collab, etc

>the two other imys fags in here
show yourselves!

>>44393736
I love imys. Yu is my wife.

>>44393811
based

>>44393736
I'm still feeling like a retard because I fucked up using the ticket for a Swimsuit SSR and got the one I already had, wasted all my gems getting the other girl.

>>44393913
I went all in on all of the swimsuit gacha and then on the current Sharon banner and now I have nothing for the end of month Mysteria dress gacha so I really hope it's not going to be someone I would really want to roll for

>>44385845
i finally got mine after 160 pulls, thats why i initially thought that you have to pull everything to get the big thing lmao

Goodbye hammers. Now have Meruel and both Sashas with fully upgraded accessories. Thinking about getting Mahamut and Lillie next so I can have one unit in each element with accessories.

Also used the energy juice they handed out and finally got one of these.

I thought there might be some EoSes with so many games coming out. Didn't expect it to be Magicami.

https://twitter.com/MGCM_official/status/1694243094051582452

>>44395607
Does the team have any other projects lined up? MGCM is one game I'd have never expected to hit EoS.

Amaterasu is garbage, Support Sol is generic, Main Sol is useable. Another attempt at baiting right before 2nd anniversary.

>>44395781
Maybe that's what the stream latter today will reveal.

https://www.youtube.com/live/NDzjNiB34aE?feature=share

>collab sucks
>drop 50 on yukinko sorcerer banner
>nothing
they really want me to fuck off huh

is it contagious?
also good to know Sol's magic not only can regenerate hymens, but also create clothing

>>44395781
>MGCM is one game I'd have never expected to hit EoS.
Game was dead for me when they started changing the VAs. Pretty retarded when you have such a small cast, and Akisa was like the most popular girl

>>44396953
Wasn't the seiyuu changes because of the seiyuu's agency NG than the studios because of the scenes they are going to cast?

>>44397075
That might have been for Iko's change at the start but I don't think they ever gave a reason for Riri, Hanabi or Akisa, and they already had plenty of extreme scenes with the game only getting tamer over time after they changed.
For Akisa's well, she barely does eroge anymore and is going full in on her Vtuber gig, maybe she just wanted out and it was out of their hands but still, that kind of thing can kill interest for a lot of people.

This is as surprise as Eiyuu Senki EoS when they revealed that the one guy working on it was dying from overwork, although this case reeks of corporate meddling

All the collab spam and that crap VIP system they started with rehashed h-scenes showed they had run out of money for a while.

>>44397471
Oh and last month they did a collab with fucking Ammolite trash nukige, talk about scrapping the bottom of the barrel.
Makes me wonder if Deep One with all the random moege collabs and starting the Memoria stuff is having financial trouble too.

>>44397185
Iko's change was because of health and she came back as Lux

>>44395607
I haven't been by the thread since I got locked out of DMM, but came back to pour one out for MGCM.
>>44397383
As I understand it, apparently there was a merger between companies that own MGCM Studio and they decided the game wasn't profitable enough to keep around after restructuring, so yeah, that's exactly it. The devs only found out two weeks ago.

>>44397185
>Riri
As I remember, this one was really a contract NG thing.

>Hanabi or Akisa
This one is unknown. Best I can think of is that they just ran out of the initial one and didn't renew or something. Akisa's one is still doing Deep One so I don't think wanting to get out is the reason.

>>44397520
>Makes me wonder if Deep One with all the random moege collabs and starting the Memoria stuff is having financial trouble too.
Is it not because Deep One's parent company is Baseson and thus pretty deep in with a lot of eroge companies? I don't think we have to worry yet about Deep One since they apparently went from 2 Memoria per H-scene into 1 Memoria each, doubling their initial cost.

>>44397520
This makes me extremely worried about midnight girls, they did a collab with that complete garbage 3dpd game.

oh no
what if they end up in detariki

>>44397185
Iko's change at the start was due to illness. That VA came back as Luxuria and Iko's VA ended up being very good too.
Both Akisa and Hanabi "graduated" from the role as they or their agency wanted them to "pursue other interests."
Riri was contract dispute, and really just a curse for gal girls to have their VA switched out. Which was a shame since she was really good compared to her replacement but early MGCM seemed to confuse a lot of people about what sort of h-content it was pursuing, especially when even VAs separate aliases depending on content.

>>44397520
It may have been among the random requests from surveys as they attempted to bring back harder h-scenes.

>>44398278
>went from 2 Memoria per H-scene into 1 Memoria each, doubling their initial cost
That was due to backlash, since it seemed impossible to muster enough resources to humor two cards. But based on the loading screen backgrounds, I wonder if one card was going to be 'free' and the other was going to be from gacha - because obviously making them both be from time-limited gacha goes against "completion" regulations.

Detariki ZX added a new SSR Detariki that includes a special tentacle h-scene with Rain. Very tempted to roll, the preview looks really good(and they totally took the idea from Shangrila Drive, dont remember Detariki having scene previews before)

>>44394955
Fake image

I forgot to do guild wars last week and I finally got kicked so I'm finally free from legeclo

>>44398840
The 3D models aren't nearly as good.

>>44401823
Previews are a recent addition, they've even started adding 2D animated scenes too for some reason.
And yes, it's the first Jammer to have that. A small group of players have been asking for that sort of addition for a while. But good luck rolling it, the first 'limited' Jammer I got out of such gacha happened to have a sub 2-star player score and was worse than a common one.
Detariki are the emblems you collect and equip on cosplay outfits.

>>44402104
godspeed, I like these game's designs to quit even after getting fucked for 2 banners in a row

>>44401823
why have you awoken me from my slumber
I just want to rest in peace

>got the new girl out of the box
>no intro scene
Well that's kinda lame. Idk if I want to still rush the boxes or clear out the important stuff, but 3x refreshes with gems doesn't seem like it's enough. Maybe if I dump all of the stamina drinks but idk if that's worth it. I hope they rethink this box shit before the next one.

I sleep

>>44403738
>I hope they rethink this box shit before the next one.
They won't even have a free 3* character in the box next time. It's only available this one time as a commemoration for the first box gacha event.

>>44403757
Used 60k gems to get it, maybe the jammer itself is not great but all my detariki rolls are dickrolls and the novelty of the tentacles is too powerful.

>>44403774
Well I guess that at least makes it not feel too horrible to miss out on the later boxes. Kinda wondering how many refreshes you need to empty every box since usually games let you clear them out without too many refreshes.

>4800 yen for 4800 paid gems + 4800 free ones and a 3 star gacha ticket on Twinkles for reaching level 100 maou

no thanks Ruruka.

really? and thats after first box demanded 160 pulls

So how is the girl from the box? I got her today.

>>44406481
She's a good supporter for the thunder tower.
She has over a 100% chance to paralyze on her EX1, but certain enemies (like Ripple in the last event) are immune to paralysis.

>techcross taking #1, 2 and 3
Kek

>rush through a bunch of the new history event missions in Aigis
>get all three tickets from Riven's event
>nothing
On the flip side I got HS Risley (and Krehl) in 175 SC.

>kuuko sharing a banner with reimi again
Fuck off, not going for the remi dupe

>>44406999
alivecross?

>>44403738
It would be marginally better with some overlap with an event, instead of making everyone pretend they'll get anything farming 3star equipment.

>>44408096
>>44408272
>Try to roll for Yukata Rami
>Two plat dupes
>"I'm close to black pity, may as well roll the new banner"
>Plat dupe and Black dupe
Not sure what I was expecting...

>>44408705
Smart, kuma hasn't given shit to mist train even though it's twinkle that's been taking 1st place whenever it gets 2nd

>>44405530
why's she flashin' gang signs

>finally got the orb
im not sure how to feel about this

>>44410955
>mist train
>find dmm rank reward in gifts
>It's some stamina pots
I've been meaning to ask, but what is with all the random bullshit needed to raise girls? I started during the kuma three-way thing but I seem to be getting trounced easily despite doing all the obvious stat raising on the latest SSRs.

>>44412509
Mist is more about team building so you can only get so far by haphazardly making a team, but this also means getting the right characters so it is a bit harder if your main team's loops are resisted etc.

Other than that, it's relatively straightforward. Stats are capped by your max HP and running quests is the only way to get higher HP. Equipment matters but you only need to get speed/attack stat up to do most content. Formation's also help a lot in terms of changing speed orders/aggro value etc.

>>44413344