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What's your top 3 light novels of all time?

>>44206430
1- Arifureta
2- Arifureta after story
3- Arifureta zero

Anyone here have epub for 軍人少女, 皇立魔法学園に潜入することになりました ?
zlib only have the volume 1

>>44208148
Just buy it bro

>>44208280
already used the money for pic related, being poorfag is suffering

>>44206430
Category too broad, choosing is hard.

>>44208308
Feels like as of recent years only overlap seems to care about more sci-fi stuff.
Weird when their flagship series was arifureta.

>>44206430
Whatever they are, (You) are all insecure about them.

i like overlord
i like honzuki
i like kage
i like evil lord
i vastly prefer lns to anime
sorry if this counts as hate speech

>>44210787
>>44210897
Just how pissy are you that you're tying to bring this to another thread?

>>44211011
I'm just an agent of chaos

i'm more of a neutral evil guy myself

>>44206414
Sex.
Pure sex.

>>44206414
>>44211270
why is this author so autistic anyway, he's one of the few that can write girls with a few screws loose so well without killing the plot

what are some light novels that have racism?

FUCK, so I just realized that 七つの魔剣が支配する Side of Fire 煉獄の記 exists and now my 'tism about the reading order is flaring up. Should I read that immediately after I'm done with volume 10 or does it not really matter? I don't have that volume on hand right now, but I have the rest.

>>44206430
1. Tanaka
2. Nishino
3. Sasaki

>>44206414
eagerly awaiting accel world volume 26. volume 25 ended on a real cliffhanger.

>>44218445
Do those two have sex with a man?

>>44218470
read it yourself and find out.

Is there any reincarnated as an object/animal/monster LN in which the MC gets into a romantic relationship with girls without changing back into a human form? It can be smut or not. Asking for a friend

>>44218265
>'tism about the reading order is flaring up
wait is that really a thing? isn't reading by release date enough in most cases?

>>44218755
It was released on the same day as volume 11.

>>44218607
Those are always gimmick/meme premises so I doubt it.

>>44218265
You can read it anytime, it's just alfyn's prequel. If anything, read it after vol 11

>>44221720
I'll take your sage advice and read it after volume 11 then.

>The TL group currently doing Mamahaha is so angry at people "stealing" their TLs that they made it so that the TLs on their site are images instead of text
Why are they like this considering they don't even own what they're translating? They seem to be pretty owny about an ILLEGAL TL.

Is there any problem with creating dump accounts to buy books on bookwalker with the first purchase deal? Like could my accounts get banned for it

>>44221889
For some reason the line you have to cross to go from wanting to learn Japanese for your own enjoyment to actually wanting to bother with translating stuff seemingly selects for some despicable personality traits

>>44221889
>>44221999
reading for your own means you either reach a level where you're happy with the basics and ride the slow grind, or go full 'tism studying to squeeze as much intended meaning as you can from what you read
either way the result is chill solo reading, the worst it can happen is the 'tisms sharing the double meanings and references they found, correcting each other or wanking themselves to death over cool chants and special move declarations
looking down on EOPs is not even a thing that happens anymore, the closest thing to it that still happens is the weekly complaining about TLs, but that's more shitting on shitpress and 7S than on EOPs

actually translating for other people attracts a wide variety of red flag personalities, failed writers, donation beggars, donation cartels, attention whores, those wanting to "fix" otaku media out of hatred, a recipe for disaster regardless of who it is and always results in shit TLs
the personality matrix that allows someone to just translate normally to try get as much meaning across to share the fun with others is not only extremely rare these days, those just tell others to learn japanese now instead of TLing, but the rare ones that do exist just work for JNC now or know the vast majority of EOPs aren't worth translating for and keep it to themselves

>>44218607
Reincarnated as a Behemoth and that one slime rapecave Nocturneshit whose name I forgot. The first one got their side characters (which has their own series) getting knotted, while the second one is just plain smut since the author went schizo after his readers said his previous work's romance/characterization sucks, got actual depiction of bestiality to boot. Dragon egg used to be just monster form for the first ~200 chapters or so, but the MC is an actual unbearable moron that I can't manage to finish reading it. There's also Goblin Kingdom if you argue that demihumans=/=humans, MC being a goblin is an actual plot point and he stays as one until the end. There's quite a lot of those "reincarnated as monsters" series during Kumo/Slime's era, which would be around 2016-2018, might want to search around that range.
>>44206430
Even though I could probably recite Dendro from start to finish, it's gotta be Regios, Ben-to, and Mondai/Index just for the nostalgia factor. Also more than willing to say Slayers, but am not born in its era, so suffice to say it didn't hit me as hard as my gateway LNs.

>>44222161
What explains the group I'm talking about specifically?

>>44222161
Interestingly the old translator of mamahaha an old B-T veteran retired partly because he got burnt out on all his series getting licenced over the course of a decade plus, when fucking loli shogi somehow got licensed he knew he was cursed. JNC offered to hire him and purchase his Infinite Stratos scripts but he declined as he didn't want to give up his freedom to translate what he wanted.
And it sounds like mamahaha has passed into worse hands.

>>44222759
>Infinite Stratos
that sure brings back memories...

>>44222828
Never read it, but I remember how apparently it lost all relevance because the author was obsessed with the main girl that not many people liked and it came at the expense of the other, more popular ones.

>>44222759
Couldn't a better group snipe Mamahaha then? The funny thing is that the new group isn't even any good, they're clearly an MTL group, and a bad one at that. And yet they're the ones being super protective of their "translations".

>one more mahouka spinoff series
The author should contentrate on the sequel instead. At least make it 3 vols per year

>>44223612
>snipe
just run the text through claude2 and snipe it yourself or shits and giggles, j

does anyone have epubs for
カノジョの妹とキスをした or
友達の後ろで君とこっそり手を繋ぐ。誰にも言えない恋をする

desu jewnovelclub will catch up on Mamahaha eventually, so the group are probably just trying to squeeze out what scambucks they can now because the clock is ticking.

>>44222828
Bad memories most likely.

>>44228524
I just don't get why of all TL groups are that protective when they aren't even good and clearly MTL

What is the consensus on フォーリナーの過ち?

>>44231758
EOPs don't know any better and even if they do they think "readable in burger" equals a better translation even if it's literal edited MTL and all characters sound like internet shitposters.
This ends up inflating the egos of those translators far too much, and that's the cause of the protectiveness.

>>44235314
readers of MTL patreonwalled shit are usually ESLs who aren't biased in favor of burgerisms

I've realized that Oliver Horn and Kageaki are actually a lot alike. if you're read both, you know what I mean.

>>44235824
So does Oliver also get a sisterdaughter later?

>>44235824
who is the muramasa sansei of nanatsuma?

>>44235819
why would ESLs need english TLs when non-english languages have actually decent fan TL groups

>>44236983
because ESL isn't a language

>>44236983
Spanish and portuguese Fantrans are toptier from the few i've seen.
>>44222161
>>44222759
Take me back to the BT era. At least then, it was about the nip autism when it came to fantrans. Funny how these paywallfags never dmca'd

>>44206430
unironically ありふれた職業で世界最強, i've read it in both ln and wn, the author knows exactly how to trigger my dopamine receptors
治癒魔法の間違った使い方 very likable and fun cast of characters and some good jokes, made me laugh at times which is pretty rare
異世界はスマートフォンとともに。 maximum comfy, "god i wish that was me" the novel

>>44206430
>>44206430
saekano
mushoku
ryuuou no oshigoto

>>44222161
>failed writers, donation beggars, donation cartels, attention whores, those wanting to "fix" otaku media out of hatred
realest thing I've read this week

You know when you are reading something, it's okayish, then suddenly a couple of immensely retarded reveals/twists ruin all your will to continue reading?

Hell Mode vol 6. I didn't even reach 10% and I don't even feel like reading anymore. Maybe when it's complete, I don't know.

>>44237259
The constant praise here for arifureta makes me want to read. Which version should I read, ln or wn?

>>44237378
what even happened to it to cause such strong reaction?

>>44237378
Not a light novel, but yes, Jewelry Hearts Academia ( https://vndb.org/v33175 ) was like that for me.
I really liked the first half and it seemed like the stupid twist was close to the end so I decided to power through to the end, but it turns out the stupid twist was actually the midpoint and the second half was not worth it.

>>44237671
they are very similar, the ln mostly just has a bit more content and some parts are fleshed out a bit more
i'd just go with the ln

>>44206414
Is there an alternative fan TLs for "Otome Game no Heroine de Saikyou Survival"? The one on nyaa seems to be MTL. I could only barely finish 2 chapters before giving up

Does anyone have the raws for アブソリュート・デュオ? I've found raws up to Volume 9 on the usual places - but not 10, or 11.

>>44237837
Thanks.
>Only 13 vols
Shorter than I thought

Has the LN of "Koukousei WEB Sakka no Mote Seikatsu "Anta ga Kami Sakka na Wakenai desho" to Boku wo Futta Osananajimi ga Koukaishiteru kedo Mou Osoi" been axed? There are only two LN volumes released so far, the last one last year, but both the manga and the original WN are still ongoing.

Rereading 謳えスカイスクレイパー arc of shangrila frontier. However boring the intermediate fights of the series tend to be this author hits it out of the park with the arc ending rush everytime. Especially orchestra's is just かっこいい

it's out!

>>44239219
arifureta's pacing is weirdly blazingly fast, for the content covered it could have easily been 30+ volumes

>>44242907
maybe if he dragged out the first dungeon and described every single floor but i'm sure as hell glad he didn't

Does anybody have the raws for the danmachi astrea record volumes? Haven't been able to find them via the typical sites and won't be able to purchase them since my bank which im looking to switch is up my ass about foreign payments.

>>44242907
>>44243010
There are a few sections where it could have gone into detail and spent a lot more time on but i wouldn't call it "blazingly" fast

Are MTL groups having big egos and overprotectiveness the norm or if the Mamahaha group not the norm?

>>44243677
Pretty sure it's the norm, the drama over sniping MTL manga groups is ridiculous.

>>44243677
>>44243704
It's only a more recent problem in the LN Fantran scene compared to manga. Can't wait for AI to put these hacks out of business

>>44244096
or you could just learn japanese

>>44244231
Regardless of whether people are at the mercy MTL shitters or not, those fuckers need to be delt with either way. thinking this wont effect you if you know jp is shortsided.

>>44237702
So two volumes ago the main characters face the largest army ever of demons and reinforcements, lead by an officer that happens to be a deity. Big win.
But ACKSHUALLY that was all according to keikaku, because the REAL super secret demon lord's army is composed entirely of deities, mini gods and ancient evils and shit and they were attacking other gods somewhere.
The leader they beat was a lowly footsoldier. And now what, all enemies are gonna be gods? Power levels went full retard so quickly, so suddenly, that I don't even feel like checking out the rest of the volume.

>>44244288
Things like this is what make me think the entire TL industry is intentional and malicious sabotage of JP media or at least the perception of it in the west.
BT got murdered in cold blood but somehow DMCAs don't affect any of these MTL groups? Somehow actually good translations are the ones getting DMCA? Why is that not raising more eyebrows?
Either way if takedowns don't deal with MTL shitters then nothing will, you have to keep in mind the average EOP consuming translations already feels like MTL itself is too much effort, even if it's literal copypasting off a WN or epub, how do you expect them to MTL with AI when that's even more effort?

>>44244584
so that's what people mean when they say hell mode is just a shounen manga in LN form and not in a good way, it's already doing the shounen powercreep at full force

>>44244595
>Things like this is what make me think the entire TL industry is intentional and malicious sabotage of JP media or at least the perception of it in the west.
Given the state of western animation/comics, they have to be trying some shit
>Somehow actually good translations are the ones getting DMCA? Why is that not raising more eyebrows?
QRD? i'm out of the loop since dipping closer and closer to learning jp
> how do you expect them to MTL with AI when that's even more effort?
The moment there is a plug and play AI that can handle documents with little to no command tweaks is the moment paywallfags start panicking. You would be surprised what lazy EOP's are capable of when motivated out of spite.

>>44244595
My guess is paywalling shit got common enough that groups pop up faster enough than you can smack them down with DMCAs. Though with 7shit and cumpress being the ones throwing DMCAs, it's just watching crabs in a bucket really. I guess that's why most people tell you just to learn Japanese, there's no one in the English sector worth giving money to.

>>44243254
I have them, will upload them later. And what did you do that made your bank get pissy about foreign transactions lol.

>>44243254
>>44246157
here https://files.catbox.moe/korsmo.zip

>>44245649
the jewnovel CEO once tried to send DMCA takedown to cnine for 望まぬ不死の冒険者 and nuke his patreon because the concept of paywalled MTL just personally disgusted him, and the process actually took so much effort and time to achieve so little that he never bothered trying again and just stuck with the "do it faster and better" approach that they did with stuff like RTD's isesuma
this was before they got bought by kadokawa though so maybe if they wanted to do it now they could just get the kadokawa lawyers idk

Anyone have 乙女ゲー世界はモブに厳しい世界です12 epub?

>>44246405
>nuke his patreon because the concept of paywalled MTL just personally disgusted him
Based. Say what you will, but it seems like JNC have people who genuinely care about the source material more often then not

>>44246405
wait hold on JNC is owned by kadokawa directly?

>>44246672
Yup, majority owned since 2 years ago.
Original owner is still in charge though

>>44221968
your cards might get blocked

>>44221968
>>44247095
i've done it 9 times and haven't been blocked yet

I need a recommendation for something very very easy to read, but that isn't boring slice of life stuff or kuma bear.

>>44247594

When does it get good?

>>44247648
It never gets good. But there's enough shit on the market that it looks like gold.

>>44244584
yeah I gave up on hell mode after volume 4

series started off fun what with gaming the summoning mechanics but it escalated way too fast

>>44247600
I'll try out 剣と魔法とセーラー服, looks cute

>is zero raws in your way

>>44206430
1. rakudai kishi
2. are you okay with a slightly older girlfriend
3. archdemon's dilemma
If single volumes count then empty box and zeroth maria vol. 1 would be my top pick, but I really can't judge it well just based on that. Really wish choppiri would get more volumes but apparently it's finished at 6. Atleast musume janakute is getting translations and I still have a couple volumes of boku no kanojo sensei ahead of me. hagchads stay winning.

>>44246157
>>44246402
Thanks a lot anon
>And what did you do that made your bank get pissy about foreign transactions lol
I tried to make the switch over to amazon jp, when i tried to purchase the nanatsu volumes that haven't been uploaded as epubs, it got flagged for fraud. Had to talk to the bank about getting a new card and shit

>>44248196
>are you okay with a slightly older girlfriend
Was this axed? I'm surprised it never got an anime considering it got a manga.

>>44247594
黒の召喚士 is on the easy side rather than very very easy but at least it's not SoL

>>44248239
>switching over to amazon jp
You mean changing the account's country? What's the benefit over opening a completely new jp account?

>>44249162
As in switching from bookwalker to amazon jp - not changing an account's country, since it's apparently easier to rip stuff as epubs as opposed to scripts which screenshot stuff as is the case with bookwalker.

>>44249487
I see, your bank is just being shitheads. Tangential, but did you have to pay the 10% consumption tax on bookwalker? People say that it won't be applied if you change location from japan with vpn but that doesn't work for me so I had to stick with amazon

>>44250900
not that anon, but it works for me
when i use a vpn to set my location to japan i have to pay it, when i turn off the vpn (i live in europe) i don't have to pay it

日本語訳がグーグル先生以下で
たまに意味不明の文章に出くわします。

whatever translation it will get will be worse than mtl like divinity

What's the best site to get LN recommendation? Amazon jp keep giving the same bunch of LN while Kimirano gave lots of axed LN

>>44250945
Huh, wonder why it doesn't work for me. Can you post your screenshot of latest kumakuma vol page from here please https://bookwalker.jp/de92d2f401-54b8-46fd-932e-59fee7f7959c/
The image is how it's displayed to me.

>>44252589
you have to go to checkout

>>44252589

>>44252605
Oh, thanks. So I was just being an idiot. They should at least change how the price is displayed out of country

>>44252589
Unrelated, but would you mind sharing Vol. 20 if you actually buy it?

>new coomer coomer coomer bear volume
wtf why did no one tell me

>>44252099
unironically probably here, any other board doesn't care, NU got overtaken by literal KRshill review bots, and both reddit and MAL will just give you entry level EOP stuff like overlord or MT, discord servers are just reddit colonies, and jp boards are (thankfully) still elitist and will rec you literal shitposts in LN form if you sound like a newfag, or worse, a JSL

>>44253396
>overlord and MT are entry level
I miss when 4chan didn't immediately turn on any older narou series that gets popular to the point of history revision

>>44253460
agreed

>>44253460
and i miss when newfags didn't equal entry level with "bad"
objectively speaking those are entry level when they are gateway series, the kind of thing that ends up being a lot of people's first LN

>>44253497
overlord is a huge filter actually

>>44253521
Anyone "filtered" by baby's first genocide is just looking for a reason to drop it after the slog that is the lizard sex volume and the one immediately afterwards.

>>44253497
>i miss when newfags didn't equal entry level with "bad"
>kind of thing that ends up being a lot of people's first LN
maybe to an actual newfag who started reading LNs in the last couple years... they weren't even the first big isekai LNs.

>>44253460
what are you smoking?
>Naruto is a gateway series of the worst kind
is ancient kopipe

When i think of entry level series, it's usually something simple, easy to read/get into and requiring minimal knowledge/familiarity/adjustment to common tropes within the genre. Something without a big requirement of investment to pick up or continue reading, especially not if it's a long over arching series that's narrative heavy.
I wouldn't call something like say mahouka an entry level series just because it was alot of peoples's gateway battle academy LN

>>44253676
is ancient kopipe
I'd give you a "no u" but i dont speak ESL

konosuba is the definition of entry level

>>44253819
This, kuma bear, oregairu, isekai smartphone ect fit the bill. I'd even say SAO to an extent, especially early on.

>>44253761
would it help if I wrote コピペ instead?

anon here >>44228292, some time after making that post I found both on some discord server named moeway that seems to have a decent amount of people sharing raws
Just finished reading ImoKisu and unfortunately I'll need to go to sleep feeling depressed tonight.
I was already prepared for a bad end so it was a bit more cope-able than I expected in some ways, but having enjoyed and smiled so much at the cute Shigure and mc interactions through the volumes I really wanted them to just be happy. This bittersweet ending is probably hitting me harder than a full bad one would.

>>44255800
The bittersweetness of drama romances can get addicting and it can cause severe long lasting emotional damage, just don't overdo it bro.

>>44254619
I'm actually surprised hover dictionaries pick that up.

>>44248557
originally the author had plans for 3 volumes in terms of story. because they were successful he made another 2 volume arc and pretty much wrapped up all character arcs with vol. 6. it wasn't officially axed but no new volume in years. I really don't know where the manga came from. and I don't think we can expect an anime adaption. would be really cool though.

>>44253396
>unironically probably here,
Any good new SF LN? preferably that have less than 3 volumes

>>44259001
>>44208308

>>44259030
Already bought that, still waiting for delivery. Got anything else?

>>44206414
How do the Monogatari localizations hold up? Are they decent? Currently learning Japanese for the later books and some other stuff but reading the english translations right now

>>44260160
you're spending time reading english books while learning japanese? don't you hours spent is the number one factor in learning japanese?

>>44260217
I can only learn so much kanji at one time. My tutor said to be careful to avoid burnout.

>>44260263
There's no such thing as this. You don't learn through selecting a number of kanji and deciding to learn it that day like a fucking game, just read and words come to you naturally.

>>44260263
the bigger danger is losing interest because you spend way more time on "studying" instead of trying to read and understand the things you're actually interested in, which is how you get good

>>44260263
your tutor wants you to stay dependent as long as possible to make more money off of you

>>44260621
>just read and words come to you naturally.
I can't read kanji though anon
>>44260651
I've been going pretty steadily for about 3 months and only gaining motivation, I expect somewhere around the end of the year I'll be able to start reading on my own
>>44260680
My tutor is a personal friend, I don't give him any money

>>44260780
i'm 11 months in and have read 2 series plus 4 lengthy VNs and multiple anime and manga series...if you start now you'll be way ahead by the end of the year compared to the timeline in which you wait until the end of the year to start. by the way forcing yourself to memorize kanji without reading is painfully slow and inefficient

>>44259001
>preferably that have less than 3 volumes
but why

>>44260780
If you don't have a dictionary haven't learnt anything

>>44260913
How am I supposed to start reading without knowing a bunch of kanji? I seriously don't understand. Unless you mean reading digitally and using a digital dictionary via copy & paste, but frankly that sounds tedious and irritating
>>44260932
I have a physical one and an app downloaded to my phone

>>44261042
yomichan

>>44260780
Well, everyone has their own way of doing things but personally I think you shouldn't wait for a specific date to start consuming media anon. You will find learning most effective when you read something in parallel, even if it's extremely difficult initially. For example browse nhkeasy news or force yourself to read something like yotsubato.

>>44260919
Because I already read most of ongoing SF LN

>>44261042
>physical dictionary
literally useless and gigantic waste of time, just use a digital dictionary on every word you don't know. How is this hard to understand?

>>44260780
is your tutor japanese? if yes, he probably doesn't know how to learn japanese as a jsl efficiently
is your tutor not japanese? if so and he's a normie it's very likely he doesn't know japanese very well and his methods are shit. has he actually read a lot of japanese material?

>>44261042
>Unless you mean reading digitally and using a digital dictionary via copy & paste
name a beter method. you can't

>>44261042
>frankly that sounds tedious and irritating
You are completely right, even if you use something like yomichan. But it's also extremely effective. And it doesn't take too long to pass through this phase actually, like under a week for something like yotsubato if you have a basic grasp of the grammar and common vocab.

>>44261114
hover dictionaries
no, taking the time to copy and paste does not improve how fast you'll acquire the word, it's just wasted time

>>44259001
I know this out of topic just read vn if you want that short

>>44261042
>but frankly that sounds tedious and irritating
Yet it's unironically the most efficient method to read and learn.
It barely takes a day or two to read up basic grammar, from there you can read as good as MTL is if you look up every new word you don't know (all of them) and the bottom floor only goes up from there.
Even for a complete brainlet it barely takes 3 months to be better than MTL, and about a year or two in you only need occasional dictionary use.

>>44261129
I don't trust those things with every reading desu, you end up having to manually copy past a lot of the time anyway to fix it. besides, I dont read novels on my desktop

>>44261165
VN are just too slow and has too much bullshit before you get to the meat of the story.

>>44261075
I tried reading Yotsubato but found myself looking up so many words that it became extremely tedious just to translate a page, and I wasn't really remembering anything. If I have a foundation I think it will be more enjoyable to read and still look things up when I don't understand them.
>>44261105
>just use a digital dictionary on every word you don't know
Anon, if I don't know how to type the kanji, how do I look it up? I read physical books
>>44261108
He's jsl and not a normie, he regularly reads JP news sites for game and anime news
>>44261114
>>44261129
Doesn't work on my physical books, I learn better with hard copies, I even keep some notes on some kanji
>>44261127
I don't know for sure that I have a basic grasp of vocab and grammar, most kanji I've learned so far are pretty simple but cracking open Yostubato, the kanji are pretty complex. I still feel I need to progress my radicals so I can more easily identify the complex ones
>>44261194
But how do you learn to recognize such complex kanji? The characters are so detailed. I know immersion is the fastest way to learn but I feel like I'll just not understand things and get burnt out fast

>>44261203
>you end up having to manually copy past a lot of the time anyway to fix it
not at all the case with yomichan, it's very rare that it'll fuck up and if it does the word was probably rare enough that you don't have to care if you're a beginner
it does happen on kindle though because it's not as good as recognizing compounds and verb declinations

>>44261211
>I learn better with hard copies
geez

>>44261211
>Doesn't work on my physical books, I learn better with hard copies, I even keep some notes on some kanji
same thing, just type (and find the kanji) instead of copy paste. truth is i only copy paste LNs, everything else I type out

>>44261211
>I tried reading Yotsubato
Well, then there's nothing to say as long as you are not obsessed with sticking to a particular timeline or learning schedule. You are the best person to evaluate your capabilities so just remember to try reading something from time to time and see if you progressed enough to continue reading with some effort.

>>44261211
Either write them out on a writing to character converter or just get yourself some epubs and save yourself time and money
>I learn better with hard copies
clearly not

>>44261211
>But how do you learn to recognize such complex kanji?
If you can't just copypaste then learn radicals.
The simpler ones are barely any harder than kana and make up for 90% of the kanji you will ever see.

>>44261165
nta but SFags probably also already read the VN stuff that would come to mind as recs like muv-luv

>>44261211
>recognize such complex kanji
not what you'd expect actually, more complex only means harder to write. the harder kanji are the ones that you can confuse with others, which are usually more complex ones, but plenty of complex ones are also really distinct and hard to mix up with others.

>>44261203
pretty sure yomichan and jisho use the same database, in most cases the results are 100% identical

>>44261384
They both use JMDict but Yomichan's is outdated so they occasionally differ. 甲斐甲斐しい is totally wrong on Yomichan's jmdict dictionary.

Stupid question but how much is the most expensive one volume LN on Kindle? 1300 yen?

>>44262824
1.5k is not exactly rare

>>44260263
>learning kanji
You need to learn vocabulary, not kanji. Best thing is immersion - try reading along with audio books or start with visual novels or anime with jap subs. Also good to start off re-watching or re-reading things you've already done but in japanese.
Worst thing to do is wait. Saying things like "i need x amount of vocab or x amount of time before starting this thing" will always hold you down and you'll keep pushing it off and then feel like dogshit when you can't do it. You can always reread the book or watch the anime AGAIN. It doesn't disappear once you experienced it once.

Where to get the raw bros? Recently i got burnt out from consuming way too much animu and vn so i moved on to LN but i don't know where to get raws other than nyaa. Preferably an actual epub rip instead of low resolution screencap like what most i can find on nyaa. Right now I'm looking for ゲーム世界転生〈ダン活〉. There's vol 1-3 on nyaa but it's a low res screen cap and near the end of vol 1 it's starting to have missing page. Also, I'm a poorfag so buying isn't an option.

>>44264400
Z-lib, dlraw, moeway discord, or abusing amazon refund policy

>>44261211
If you really want to read physical books, gboard or google translate's japanese handwriting input (pic related) are great at recognizing kanji, even if you ignore stroke order.
However, using yomichan on an ebook is much less frustrating, as the best way to learn is by brute force. In my opinion, an even better way to learn would be visual novels with Textractor and yomichan, since having voiced lines really help. A few years ago Axanael was a fairly common recommendation for beginners, because it is pretty simple and has almost no unvoiced lines.

>>44264504
>dlraw
Well, the one with missing pages are uploaded by dlraw though. I'll try the others ty bros.

>>44264504
Which mirror of z-lib are safe?

would anybody happen to have the epubs for shinyaku toaru no majutsu?

>>44264710
The tor site onw

>>44264627
>since having voiced lines really help
While they help, you don't NEED them.
Something that also helps is voicing what you read out loud, somehow that makes the language stick to the monkey brain far better than trying to do it silently or through inner monologue.
And don't come at me with the cope of saying it would be cringe, you're already learning another language to read anime books, either go all the way or don't bother.

>>44267101
>Something that also helps is voicing what you read out loud
terrible idea you'll just solidify incorrect pronounciation

>>44267218
Bad habits are a meme, this shit isn't literal substance addictions like drugs, it's just saying a word wrong.
And who cares when you will learn vocab exponentially faster while solving the pronunciation errors doesn't take that much effort either?

>>44267263
>you will learn vocab exponentially faster
>solving the pronunciation errors doesn't take that much effort
you really shouldn't be giving advice

>>44267316
to be fair 90% of the people here will never use the spoken portion of their jp skills in any real situation, it will be almost exclusively input and maybe text output

>>44267263
>Bad habits are a meme
I don't know about that one just like at how many ESLs there are who sound like absolute fucking retards because they never learned proper pronounciation, it'd probably take months of deliberate practice to fix that kind of thing

>>44267332
While that is true, it's not a valid reason to recommend it as a method when it will absolutely make things more difficult for the people who do want to eventually speak Jap. Especially since the benefits aren't even that great, you're not going to learn "exponentially faster" lol. But if you really think it would help you, at least do it with voiced content

>生物の人格、性格は25パターンくらいしか...
How the fuck am I even supposed to know that he is referencing to pokemon...

>>44261042
VNs are your friend.
>voiced
>bite-sized text
>can just choose a VN that plays nice with texthookers to make lookups easy, no copy paste, no OCR, no nothing
>long as fuck so you get comfortable with setting specific vocabulary and the author's style
I drilled the core 2.3k deck in a month and started reading muv luv. Halfway through the first one, I was having fun and pulling 10+ hour days. You can't do that with a textbook.

>>44268336
>muv luv

>>44268389
Yep. That's it.

>>44268336
how did you survive any time yuuhi opened her fucking mouth

>>44268470
By the time Yuuhi appears Class Rep has flapped her mouth for at least 1/5 of the previous games.

>>44268470
Just imagine it's Meiya and you can put up with it.

>>44264504
>moeway dicsord
I joined them but i don't see any channel for sharing raws. Do i need to manually search for people sharing their purchase?

>>44269102
Do their kanji quiz and get student role

What's with all these romcom LNs having just one or two volumes? Were they axed or were they intended to be oneshots to begin with?

>>44269190
How to do it? I'm not well versed in using discord.

>>44269820
go into any of the quiz channels and paste this
k!quiz jpdb1k(1-300) 25 hardcore nd mmq=10 dauq=1 font=5 color=#f173ff size=100
then answer the questions

>>44269102
moway is just a scam site. I've been using the "moeway" guide for a while and IMO its not worth it , it's not a good guide it isn't written well and requires too much effort for no good reason. It's more than a Jap learning method more like Mehmet's (shoui's) lifestyle choices he's forcing onto you IMO.
i think the Tatsumoto guide is better (Decided to start using it a week ago) because they are more focused/streamlined idk how you call it.
You can join the DJT matrix space here https://tatsumoto.neocities.org/blog/join-our-community

>>44269820
Avoid discord like a plague. It's literally malware. See https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/discord
There are better alternatives, such as matrix: https://joinmatrix.org/

>>44270671
>>44270686
Pretty sure that anon only want to download LN raw, and moeway discord has a lot of new shit compared other places

>>44206430
konosuba
kuma kuma kuma bear
bakemonogatari

>>44270710
>LN raw
can be found here https://tatsumoto.neocities.org/blog/resources#books

>>44268336
>core 2.3k
I'm not sure about that. You see, all "Core" Anki decks are based on newspapers from early 90s and sometimes additionally sorted in a way that makes learning harder. The format of the cards also tends to be WCC instead of a more efficient TSC. Ankidrone Starter Pack is made from a COMPLETELY different corpus ー everyday words used commonly in Japan. I would rather get Ankidrone Starter Pack.

>>44270801
Keyword: new shit

stop responding to any post containing the words "tatsumoto", "tsc", "ankidrone" and "matrix" he is a well-known shitposter from /djt/ who for some reason decided to suddenly put his drivel into this thread as well

>>44270848
>tatsumoto
Based.
I owe my fluency in japanese entirely to tatsumoto.

>>44270848
yeah, I know, felt like typing out a response since it missed the point of my post so completely, then when I went to google those nonsense acronyms it led straight to someone's patreon
look at his greentext, obviously triggered the bot into dropping his usual sales pitch
my bad for using some no-no words

>>44270671
you can't talk about scams while listing your spam scam site at the same time tatsucuckold

>>44270933
>straight to someone's patreon
lol bullshit

>>44270975
tatsumoto probably doesn't know what 4chan is

>>44270979
ye rly

>>44270996
the first result is the right one
the second result is just an old announcement

>>44271031
no one asked

>>44271056
>brainlet

>>44271031
kill yourself

>>44271078
eat shit retard

There's a bookwalker campaign starting soon that gives 45% coinback for purchases above 1.5k yen and books published before 10th july. It's a good time if any anon plans to buy missing books from a series

>>44271148

>>44271148
45% coinback, so if I bought 10 000 yen worth of ln/manga, I will get 4 500 yen worth of coins back to buy stuff on bookwalker?

>>44271148
>>44271196
thanks for the heads-up anon - if you combine this with the 50% bonus for new accounts you get almost 100% back
>I will get 4 500 yen worth of coins back to buy stuff on bookwalker?
yes, but it gets better because when you spend those 4.5k during the campaign, you'll get another 2.25k, and so on and so forth

>>44271148
>>44271155
I wonder if the reason their deals are always so great is because of the DRM.

>>44270848
probably because any given thread is 40-80% shitting on shitpress and 7S and telling people to learn japanese
if you tally all the advice given, this general probably has given better advice than djt in the last few years combined

>>44270710
Can someone already inside there mirror the stuff they upload? Not everyone wants to use discord.

>>44271790
depends on which djt you're talking about
in the last couple of years the advice in jp djt has mostly been identical to the advice given here
the djt on int however is giving r*ddit tier advice

>>44270118
>pasted this
>ez
>someone joined midway and typed faster than my ass on phone
>only managed to answer 18
>still no student role
Uhh, is this supposed to be some kind of battle royal shit? How many score do i need to get the student role?

>>44272305
If I'm understanding the command correctly, you need to answer 25 correct answers and get disqualified when you miss 10 questions.
It's not supposed to be PVP, so whoever did that was rude

俺が…　俺が…　俺が禿頭外人だああああああ！！！！！

>>44271804
seconding this, it's too much hassle

lots of books from there have been re-posted here in the past
no one is going make the effort to mirror every fucking book if you're too lazy/retarded to join a discord server buy shit yourself

>>44271219
Oh I didn't see they don't make epub, well, guess I will pass on it then

>>44272831
only lazy retarded little children join discord servers, little broccoli bro

>>44269190
In which channel are the links?

>>44272915
what do you think?

>>44237088
>Take me back to the BT era
this. post-tokyopop crash was genuinely a golden age for fan translations of LNs. threads for shit like DxD and campione got to a bajillion zillion posts on places like animesuki. there was legitimate momentum behind LNs in those days while the market wasn't too saturated.

>discord shilling
Really now

in other news: new round of overlap has been announced
no arifureta after

>>44272931
The problem isn't LN saturation, look back at stuff released then and you will see the good:shit ratio was about exactly the same.
The actual problem is active sabotage from the western side to kill otaku media in the west.

>>44272932
Anyone here have epub for 軍人少女, 皇立魔法学園に潜入することになりました ?
zlib only have the volume 1

>>44272574
bullshit, it explicitly gives points to whoever answers first, it's literally PvP

>>44272975
you're not supposed to interfere in someone else's quiz so feel free to complain to the fucking discord mods instead of posting about it here where it doesn't belong and nobody cares

>>44272993
your discord server is shit and i hope someone leaks all the uploaded stuff

>>44272952
>The problem isn't LN saturation, look back at stuff released then and you will see the good:shit ratio was about exactly the same.
I'd disagree. LN premises 10 years ago were far more varied and esoteric. The premises for accel world, campione, index, horizon, etc. were all far more interesting than isekai #1000 but (insert gimmick here). sure, there was shit too, but even the shit had stuff going for it a lot of the time.
>The actual problem is active sabotage from the western side to kill otaku media in the west.
but this is genuinely true. there are many ideologically motivated actors in the translation space and not just in LNs. it's a real bummer.

>>44272951
god damn it. i'm considering whether i should cave and read the wn version, he just started to write new chapters again too.

>>44273014
if you think LNs are just isekai now then you really need to read more stuff, as only isekai gets translated apparently so it appears that way to the west
and honestly i'm starting to buy into this schizo theory now

>>44273017
the LN is just WN+
the changes are minimal and when they exist they just add more content without changing what's already there, the only exception is the final fight which got extended
you can read the LN all the way to the end then start on the afterstory in the novel

>>44273038
i know
but i can't track the wn on bookmeter

>>44273010
>and i hope someone leaks all the uploaded stuff
Be the one, Anonymous.

>>44273038
there are some more differences
i'm pretty sure kaori and shizuku didn't get deflowered in the isekai during the wn but the ln mentioned it near the end

>>44273031
I am reading quite a bit these days. I'd say almost as much as I was in BT's golden age. however, the only relatively recent series I'm reading that aren't isekai are
>オーク英雄物語　～忖度列伝～
>ゴブリンスレイヤー
and the latter of the 2 is definitely on the older side. I'm reading
>烙印の紋章
too, but that's old as dirt. pre-tokyopop crash but somehow never made it to the west.
If you've got recs for more recent stuff that isn't isekai I'm all ears.

>>44273106
>something any MTfag would know
>literal entry level stuff even normalfags wank, and copedified the native isekai meme no less
>something recommended from here within the last thread and this one
yeah, read more, your knowledge is as shallow as a puddle

>>44273254
>something recommended from here within the last thread and this one
I was unaware the last thread started 3 months ago. I'll just take it as you having nothing worthwhile. at least, nothing you're willing to air out for the entirety of the thread to mock you over.

>>44273279
so you did get it from this general lol
like i said, read more anon

>>44273307
I am, but I'm not finding anything I care about and end up dropping stuff due to disinterest. I've dropped more series than I've taken active interest in. I started reading the thing in the OP too and caught up in 2 days, but the genderbender stuff in the most recent volume has me inclined to drop it.

>>44273014
Isekai hasn't been the main trend since 2020 when stuff like hell mode killed the interest and novelty of it and the arifureta LN finally ending on 2022 closed an entire era and put the final nail in the coffin.

>>44273346
>but the genderbender stuff in the most recent volume has me inclined to drop it.
That stuff was over 2 volumes back not counting the spinoff or the WN, that's forever ago.
Have the TLs really not caught up yet?

>>44273374
I got all I could of the TLs the day before yesterday and vol. 5 was the last of the bunch.

>>44272931
>animesuki is now a grave yard time capsule
The thing i miss the most was the sense of community. everyone was in either BT/AS or here on 4chan for spoilers. People actually talked about the series they followed instead of 'muh look at my cool shelf' or 'muh taste snobbery'. Theory crafting and power scaling threads were unironically heated discussions, but both sides of arguments came from people who actually engaged with the material at hand.
Now, all the fantrans/LN forums have moved from blogs to discord, some even locking them behind a paywall, all of which are basically reddit colonies.

>>44273346
>>44273387
>EOP talking like he knows shit
lol

>>44273401
I suppose no one can piss over your reading list if you don't post it, but I'll assume it's shit until proven otherwise.

>>44273387
Well yeah, this is why you should learn japanese, to avoid being spoonfed only garbage shitpress and shitseas feel like regurgitating into your mouth.
After someone brought it up I have the evil lord TLs a speedread and honestly it's one of the worst translations I have seen in recent memory, it's quite literally worse than fanfiction from how much the characters change despite following the original plot.
You need to be actively malicious and trying to sabotage something to have a translation that awful, even just straight up AI MTL gave me better results than the shitseas version, though deepTL still lags behind and is a bit too robotic.

>>44273428
>shitseas
I've been beginning to wonder about that. I've never read a LN TL'd by them that I liked, but every one I've read done by JNC has been at least okay, isekai or not.

sucks 7S got COTE, it would have been wanked here far more than dendro
sucks shitpress got spellblades too, for just about the same reason

>>44273466
JNC is the only company that gives a shit. For Any other series from elsewhere that i follow, if i can the raws for them, i wont even bother ripping the 'official' release
>>44273470
>spellblades
the they/them shit with carlos almost made me drop the series. I can only imagine how many others got filtered by shit the author didn't intend

>>44273466
Like I said, intentional sabotage.
Just with liam alone the TL makes him sound like a clueless moron at all times, which later makes no sense when he puts his foot down when his two main knight girls manage to piss him off (and other things).
But no, liam isn't a clueless moron, that's the entire point of the prologue, he was an idiot but out of naivety, not actual stupidity (someone truly dumb would have died sooner), and the entire first volume explores that.
He knows he's an idiot, he knows knowledge is power, he knows he has no knowledge, so he goes ahead and fixes those problems one by one, then later on when he has power and is used to the social dynamics of this new world, he starts forcing his whims as he intended.
By the time the toy hammer scene happens he's aware and has enough self control to let out steam in a way that wouldn't cause severe consequences later, he didn't go on a blind murder rampage, he just smacked people around to assert dominance.
He is not dumb or unwise, he just genuinely wants to live as he wishes and has a "Why should I care?" attitude due to it, but his personality doesn't let him be fully sociopath cruel either.
It's extremely straightforward character growth, it's not perfect (in my opinion the capsules are a bit of a copout, but the blow is lessened from needing to study manually and use that knowledge anyway), but as far as things go, not only you could do a lot worse, it's well above average without any critical flaws, making it simply good with no ifs or buts.
And I just know the TLer saw the scenes of liam sword training and thought "this is one of those parody animes like konosuba, people like konosuba, right?" and made the entire thing into an abridged parody yet again, missing the point that the joke in those scenes is that he got hired to teach, and his nonsense teachings worked, instead the entire thing is made to have that meme-parody tone, so the force of the contrast is completely lost because everything is played out like a cheap joke.
That level of awkward dissonance between plot beats in the TL with none of the depth make it feel like an abridged parody forced to follow the original plot than a translation.
And boy, I could go on all day just from volume one alone, but just learn japanese and read it by yourself as the author intended instead of the horrid vomit that is the TL.

>>44273625
that's not unique to evil lord, anything that isn't grimdark suffering has been translated as abridged parodies by 7s and shitpress for a while now
i remember skimming the space mercenary TL for the illustrations and it was just as bad despite not being comedy focused

>>44273697
>space mercenary
Melp, time to drop that from my backlogue, was more interested in isekai mistress anyway
Speaking of which does the volume 6 of the LN end in the WN?

>>44273738
*where does volume 6

>>44273738
isekai minecraft may be even worse, that one actually has a joking-ish tone at the start despite the serious plot because of the MC POV kinda coping with the situation through laughing it off
that one may actually get translated as just konosuba 2.0

>>44273738
>>44273758
Learn japanese ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

>knights and magic gets picked up by JNC
I lament for all the mecha LN that will never get TL'd if they even exist.

>>44273780
>konosuba 2.0
Having actually read it, nope.
>>44273798
Either answer the question or dont

>>44273812
how the fuck did that take so long to get translated? actually i thought it already had a translation
just what the fuck bro, i remember complaining about shitpress grabbing it

>>44273625
Let me guess, the 7shit TL doesn't even bother to change tone when the perspective flips to Liam's fanatically loyal followers, right?
Never regretted picking up Japanese. Vol.1 was a blast.

>>44273819
>>44273780
>looks up the publisher thinking it was jnc
>it's actually seven seas
Fuck, guess they're both chalked. Suddenly the limpdick line sylphy uses in volume 1 wasn't just an odd liberal interpretation...

Has there been any instance of a LN changing hands between 7S/YP/JNC?

>>44273839
Giving it a quick skim again, yeah it doesn't really try, it barely comes off as a slight tone shift but I suspect it's because I already read it in japanese and I already know what it's supposed to be.
Before I complain at length again I will just paste a bit and let that speak for itself.
Liam:
>The soldiers were all on edge, but they couldn’t talk back to a noble. This was just how things were in the Empire; the class divisions were absolute, and no one could disobey me. Frankly, it felt great. The lowly grunts worked like maniacs while I was sitting pretty at the top, watching them.
>This is what it means to be nobility. Course, I’d be pissed if I were in their shoes. You’re working hard and your boss is taking it easy? I’d wanna kill him.
>“It won’t be long now, my lord. More importantly, is this really the best course of action?”
>The commanding officer once again questioned my orders, but I cut the conversation short with a curt “Enough.”
>This is a fixed game. Sure, I’m up against a huge pirate gang, but it’s nothing but a bonus stage for me. My win’s already been decided. I smirked. I couldn’t wait to see my prize. “These guys have some sort of treasure, right?”
>The soldiers exchanged a glance at my sudden change in topic. “I-it seems so. From the way they run rampant, it would make sense that the Goaz Pirate Gang is in possession of some miraculous treasure.”
>I grinned. “I’m looking forward to taking it from them. I’m eager to make use of it.” They continued to gawk at me, baffled.
>These guys are totally scared of the other side’s numbers. Is it normal for my personal army to respond like this?

The POV flip immediately afterwards:
>In the midst of all the nervous energy on the bridge, Liam alone was smiling. Sitting in the chair prepared for the count and no one else, he elegantly sipped his drink. He looked entirely calm, so no one was quite sure how to react.
>“Pretty calm for his first battle,” the mouthy colonel remarked to his commander, the lieutenant general.
>The lieutenant general wasn’t sure how to feel about Liam’s attitude either. “It doesn’t look like he’s simply putting on a brave face.”
>His cohort was inclined to agree. “He has a reputation for being a capable administrator, but what about his military prowess? Personally, I’d prefer it if he didn’t try to interfere too much.”
>“Agreed.” None of the soldiers knew what to think. It was rare for a lord to come to the front lines himself. Normally, nobles stayed safe in the rear or left their domains behind and fled. Yet Liam had said he would lead them into battle—and he wasn’t even an adult yet.
>“Maybe it’s his brand of noble pride. I think it’s commendable,” the lieutenant general said, and the colonel nodded.
>If they were to be honest, the soldiers would have preferred that Liam run and live to see another day, but it also gave them courage to watch him trying to do his duty.
>“The troops are less jittery with our lord here. I hope he’ll just keep sitting there and boosting morale.”
>From the soldiers’ perspective, their ruler was fighting with them instead of abandoning ship. Some of them were deeply moved by the sight, thinking, This is what a noble should be.
>Liam being on the battlefield also meant that his military personnel wouldn’t be used as sacrificial pawns. Sacrificing soldiers so that the nobility could escape wasn’t an unusual tactic in the Empire. As a result, House Banfield’s private army had unexpectedly high morale. They were still able to hold on to their fighting spirit in the face of an enemy force six times their size.
>Adjusting his hat, the lieutenant general steeled himself. “Now we have to make sure to follow his example ourselves.”
>“You said it.”
It kinda gets the point across at least.
Though it sounds like random people glad their new boss isn't shit and not really zealots in the making from seeing the light after a life of despair.

>>44273869
i remember something about nageki no bourei getting thrown at JNC after it already got it's first volume translated, but dunno what became of that

Once again, I have discovered that learning Japanese for anime books was one of the best decisions I've made in my life.

>>44273836
I dunno but I remember dropping it forever ago back when the fan TL was in the giant forest place.

>>44273878
I went back to read the original text: 'mouthy colonel' is what they translated '皮肉屋の大佐', and I think the original author intention was to show that even this cynic was starting to warm up during this scene.
>'I hope he’ll just keep sitting there and boosting morale.'
>'出来れば、このまま座っていて欲しいものです。'
He sounds a lot more respectful in the original text to me.
I've no idea how 7S runs their translation staff, but I can imagine if they focus on getting shit out fast enough that they would miss minor nuances like this.

>>44274003
sure but like, no individual raindrop wants the blame for the flood, but stack enough "missed minor nuances" and the entire tone changes

>>44274016
100%.

>>44274016
>>44274033
This is why early digital releases were a bad thing in hindsight. The more they pick up, the worse it will get

>>44274071
it's not like shitseas and shitpress were doing good translations before that either, all it did was actually get their translators to work instead of pissing around on twitter all day

>>44274071
>>44274140
>That feeling when the spanish fantran unironically wipes the floor with these hacks.
A sign of the times

>>44274016
>>44274071
>>44274140
>>44274160
This is why I keep repeating it's intentional sabotage, once you see it you can't unsee it, and it goes from funny schizo theory to extremely obviously blatant.
Or at least it does when you learn japanese and start noticing their "spicing up and fixing of the source material".

>>44274160
kind of an unfair comparison when in spanish countries and communities the animes are mainstream normally rather than mainstream by irony to ridicule as a guilty pleasure
it should be no surprise their autists still have BT-tier autism to translate

>>44274175
I'd do intentional garbage translations if I was a localizer too. Basically free money.

>>44274213
I won't be surprised if that's what they do. Just MTL shit then do a single edit pass. Unfortunately as long as it brings in the money for the Japanese publisher as well, I doubt anyone is going to be raising a stink.
I hope the day comes where MTL eventually runs all these grifters out of business. Whoever still remains will be those that provide properly written translations that a niche group still can appreciate.

>>44274213
I wouldn't blame you for it either, it is pretty much the perfect scheme now.
All the heavy lifting was already done by the japanese author, all your work is done with literal MTL or worse (you can often spot the deepTL or yomichan mistakes like "mansion" or "demon"), nobody will call you out because EOPs will eat up anything, and anyone calling you out sounds like a schizo thanks to decades of propaganda and circlejerking calling anything "anime" shit.
If someone says you missed any nuance (or outright got shit wrong/cut out parts), then everyone will just think it's something anime so it can't have nuance, what's more you aren't just translating it properly, you're "fixing" it, so how dare these weebs insult you?
Not only it's free money for no effort, you also get an internet defense force for free and get to be an eceleb if you post on twitter about being a localizer, and as a cherry on top you get to "fix" lowly media for plebs.
Should be no wonder why these faggots sound like they are on a perpetual power trip, they literally are.

>>44274278
>Just MTL shit then do a single edit pass.
Dont flatter them. i thought it was a meme from the kage jitsu airing threads, but the MTLs actually are better than whatever the fuck "shadowbroker" was supposed to be.

>>44274356
that's not very dark knight of you sir, can i see your "it's a FF reference (which also was badly translated)" cope license?

>>44272931
you don't remember all the garbage J-C-E and stalled novels?
strike the blood would never have been finished if not for shitpress
half of vanadis is MTL
shana never got off the ground

>>44275109
>strike the blood would never have been finished if not for shitpress
>half of vanadis is MTL
pretty sure that happened due to BT getting murdered

>>44273625
honestly I doubt it's intentional sabotage, it's either the translator or the editor's genuine professional opinion that it should sound like this, and their professional opinion is just retarded because there is no professional body that regulates translators and editors like it does for doctors and lawyers and even live interpreters so anyone can call themselves an editor or a translator

>>44275157
I would trust on that plausible deniability if, and only if, the translators didn't act so smug and saying variants of the following:
>It's weebshit so who cares about quality.
>It's bad anyway so I fixed it/spiced it up.
>Translation can't be literal, so my fanfiction is good enough.
All while missing subtext so obvious it's basically text and making mistakes even N4s would avoid.
As well as constant disdain to what they translate of course.
Put it all together with constantly writing abridged parodies and passing them off as translations so nothing ever gets taken seriously.
Seriously, this is the MO:
>Claim to translate something.
>Wipe clean all meaning, subtext, character depth and themes.
>Cram it full of memes, out of character moments, plot holes and contradictions from those "fixes".
>After the fact, insult it by calling it devoid of depth, pulpy/trashy and immature and how people should read REAL (read: western) books and how it doesn't deserve the effort of translating it properly anyway.
>Even though this is literally the fault of disingenuous localizers in the first place.
There's bad, which is getting certain words or conjugations wrong.
Then there's this, which you have to intentionally try to actually get, this is not accidental, this is not out of retardation, it's the intended result.

>>44275157
The "regulation" is essentially the company that hires you checking your portfolio and making you do a test.
What I think the issue is here is that Yen and Seven Seas are born from the same stock as Tokyopop and Viz from that traditional publishing industry which is why they have traditional practices like giving an editor full control of the script in the editing phase with no translator input, and traditional opinions on how works need to be Americanized to suit the target audience, in extreme cases you have the butchering of Kino no Tabi rearranging chapters and making Kino more feminine, or edited images in Shana. In comparison J-Novel has no traditional publishing background and is descended from 2000s anime fansub groups via Crunchyroll, which means their whole mindset towards workflow and localization is rooted in that instead.

>>44275356
>and traditional opinions on how works need to be Americanized to suit the target audience
how is that supposed to make any sense when ironic weebs will think it's cringe regardless and actual otaku will hate you on principle?
no target audience reading actual /lit/ shit which is who this is getting localized for is actually going to read any of it

>>44275393
do you not remember Kurt Hassler claiming the original western cover of spice and wolf was totally necessary to make it marketable to Americunts?

>>44275321
I don't think they're trying to make everything abridged parodies on purpose, I just think that they recognise the original is a comedy and are attempting to convey the humourous atmosphere, but that they're so uncultured that abridged parodies are they only style of comedy they know how to write.

>>44275424
yes but my point is that wouldn't even work

>>44275468
>I just think that they recognise the original is a comedy
They are wrong from step one then.
Most "comedy" you will find in LNs isn't haha funny with laugh track included 24/7 for the entire thing, but rather normal stuff that happens to throw in a dry comedy jab from the absurdity of the situation more often than usual, or just someone in universe doing a tsukkomi outright.
Meanwhile they think of it as "insert laugh track here" which results on the abridged parody phenomenon.
Honestly, konosuba was a mistake.

>>44274160
>>44273516
funni friendly reminder

>>44273516
I disagree with his reasoning, but I at least recognize that the they/them thing is rooted in a linguistic aspect of the text (biologically male, uses あたし) instead of being purely a political point. It's something that would otherwise have been lost in translation. However attempting to translate it fundamentally breaks because choosing your pronouns in Japanese is a matter of how you present yourself to others, choosing your pronouns in English is a matter of how you insist others treat you. It's just something that I think the translator should have let be lost, and let Carlos's feminine mannerisms speak for themselves.

>>44275696
>It's just something that I think the translator should have let be lost, and let Carlos's feminine mannerisms speak for themselves.
And that's why regardless of his logic, it still has the same effect to someone who is none the wiser.
>It's just something that I think the translator should have let be lost, and let Carlos's feminine mannerisms speak for themselves.
THIS. and what get's me is that this needed my hand to be held and not all the other usual context that's trimmed?

>>44275321
This is the exact MO and isn't exclusive to LNs by any means. You see this dumb shit all the time in Japanese vidya too and have been for decades now. Series like fire emblem have been seeing rewrites and omissions for nearly 2 decades now and when autists try to get more faithful translations out there they're put down by alleged fans and the localization defense force. Luckily, it's come to the attention of Japanese publishers and some like Sega have been more hawkish about it. Here's to hoping that attitude finds its way to LN authors too.

>>44275820
In retrospect it's just a result of localization companies following the Apple playbook of building a diehard fanbase that will defend their every move regardless. Nowadays I want to believe people are wiser and companies less competent, so cracks are more obvious. Here's hoping

>>44275820
pretty much this, the "abridged parody-fication" of translations actually got copedified by JRPGs in the modern era, specifically with neptunia and trials of, and started all the way back in the early fansub days when 4kids was the shitpress of it's era
not saying it's not malicious sabotage, but that claiming it's only on LNs is wrong, this shit is way worse than just LNs, it's on everything from japan

>>44275820
>>44275879
Obviously I'm not saying this is exclusive to LNs, I'm just focusing on that for obvious reasons.
I wanted to say it's particularly bad with LNs, but now that I give it a second thought not really, it's pretty shit everywhere isn't it?

>>44275820
>Series like fire emblem have been seeing rewrites and omissions for nearly 2 decades now and when autists try to get more faithful translations out there they're put down by alleged fans and the localization defense force.
heh

>>44275926
I'll try and give you some context for just how bad it is, anon. Going back to my mention of fire emblem, the most recent entry-engage-had quite a few rewrites it it so autists got together and did a more accurate translation themselves. Serenes forest and feuniverse are the biggest sites out there for fire emblem and fire emblem patches, romhacks, etc. These autists had to post the fan translation on fucking gamebanana of all places just to be able to get it out there. It's genuinely sickening how far people will go to defend localizers butchering the intent of the original writers. Drives me up a fucking wall.

>>44275984
Anon, just remember that nowadays companies actually pay people to defend them online. Those "people" that actually do it for free, you can just laugh at them.
That said, anyone know any way of cutting out localizers when buying stuff on Steam? Like swapping regions and the like?

>>44276025
Sometimes you don't need to. Companies like sega often included the Japanese language option. I remember when I got Valkyria Chronicles 4 I could go into the options, switch the voices to Japanese, and turn off subtitles.
That said, switching your steam account's region is something you can only do once every 3 months so if you really wanted to do this sort of thing you'd need to take a page out of the sonypony playbook and have a backup account set to Malaysian for all your japanese gaming needs. They tend to get basically everything Japan gets. I had to import my copy of Gundam Breaker 3 from there too.

>>44276101
>malaysia
Don't they censor stuff? Like the infamous boxer wearing titans from AoT

>>44276167
They'll piss and shit themselves over nudity, but their stuff tends to come in with Japanese in the options which is why I brought it up. It's how I managed to play gundam battle operation 2 when it came out and wasn't in the west yet using a Malay PSN.

>>44276167
Films, TV and publications yes, but Steam isn't regulated and Malaysia don't actually have a national videogame classification board. Videogame shops are a free for all selling a wild mixture of US, EU, AU, HK/TW, JP region games.
t. Malaysian expatriate

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>>44276286
Nice. How's the regional pricing?

>>44276167
Should also note that that was the Malay language version of AOT, and you can walk into KL Kinokuniya and buy the unaltered English version of AOT just fine.

>>44276315
Varies from maybe 10% cheaper for some publishers to as much as 40-50% cheaper for others, big AAA publishers tend to have the least generous regional pricing.

>>44275879
>and started all the way back in the early fansub days when 4kids was the shitpress of it's era

>>44276555
Kanji doko...

>>44248196
I can't read Slightly Older Girlfriend because I identify more with the cake than the male MC and being reminded is torture.

>>44276631
Low memory and low resolution means few to no kanji in old japanese games.
Be glad you have hiragana at least, even older computer text was katakana only

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