/jp/ - Otaku Culture

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>>44117749
>Discussions of translated visual novels (including MTL) should go to >>>/vg//vn/
keyed

>bastardized op
This is what lack of sana does to a general

>fucked up OP
>no subject
Good start

What are some VNs where the heroines have nice, big asses and there are several H scenes focused on them?

>>44117749
Based OP

>>44117787
>>44117785
Who are you quoting?

Oh boy, I hope we are getting a new exciting OP war. Who could forget the ノベルゲーム schizo who kept making threads as soon as the thread hit the bump limit. Great times.
>>44117809
You have to understand, they're most likely /vg/ tourists, hence their objections.

What's your favorite gameplay vn?

>>44117889
"Gameplay" covers a lot of genres there, but if we're really just lumping them all together and not taking into account solely gameplay design, then Rance 10 obviously.

>>44117889
None because I hate gameplay.

>>44117889
Kurukuru

>>44117749
>no title
>altered OP text
kys. maido-sana delete this shit. someone bake a fresh pan with tsu.

>>44117889
Same as >>44118266

>>44117889
Rance X I guess. I usually don't like any gameplay

>>44118189
I really like jrpgs but they are really lacking on the cute girls part
Gameplay kinda makes it way more immersive for me when you can do various stuff with girls whether it's just exploring or combat or even some kind of raising sim

>>44117889
I liked the one where I clicked my mouse to progress text. Best gameplay/10.

>>44118266
I remember trying to get into it back in the days but I couldn't understand that combat system for life
Does it get better later?

>>44118289
This but my favorite is one that features 読み上げ so I can just put it on auto and listen to the story while playing other game

>>44118327
Never seen anything like this, examples?

>>44118327
There are games like that?

>>44117889
I know its hated but sankai ou no yubiwa. I liked the ship wars, and I'm a sucker for the pirate theme/setting
The game could have been so much better though if Eushully didn't butcher it

is this rare?

>>44118457
it has the best Eushully H-scenes and a few really good characters. gameplay is dogshit as always.

>>44118534
I've never seen it before

>>44117889
I need to play more alicesoft

>>44118534
Go do you reps

>>44118534
Is an idiom with 6 mil hits on Google rare?

Anybody know why I can't get this to work properly?
https://vndb.org/v12130
The game launches fine and I can click through to advance but the text box isn't there. Voices work. No idea what happened or if I'm retarded.

>>44118534
does it matter when the meaning is extremely obvious?

>>44118713
yes

>>44118534
Only seen it once

>tfw no bratty Angel gf

>>44117785
>>44117787
>>44118268
>>44118795
Are we being raided or something? All the greentexters are EOPs.

>>44118836
only the last one is from /vn/

Reading Subahibi for the first time knowing basically nothing about it and holy shit I was not expecting all the gay shit. I just finished the scene where Mamiya got mouth-raped while being forced to cross dress, that shit was scarring.

>>44118996
That's the second hottest scene in the VN though?

>>44118689
Did you try locale emulator

>>44119349
Yeah I did and that didn't work but but I fixed it now. There was apparently some patch that the company had to release because it was buggy as fuck on release. Got the version on sukebei instead and it worked fine with the patches they included

>>44119373
japanese code compiled over 1000 times strikes again

>>44117749
Sana doesn't deserve this treatment anyways.

>>44117889
/jav/

>>44119394
>compiled over 1000 times
that's not how it works, tech-illiterate-kun

>>44119429
it's a joke thinks-he's-smarter-than-everyone faggot-kun

>>44119434
NTA, but the word Japanese has become a slur on this site. That's how unironic these "jokes" have become.

>>44119429
If you don't do over 1000 fresh builds before pushing into production, you're doing it wrong.

>>44119465
just pull an Elon and make prod main to reduce redundancy and the need for all these complicated branches

>>44119465
let me guess, you're some retarded web frontend developer?
maybe even worse, python faggot?

>>44119479
My man, it's just a joke. It's okay.

>>44119493
phew

Based ESL autist.

MTLGODS ww@

Speaking of bugged or controversial releases, what's the most notable one? Pic related has to be high up there and the kurokamige with the blue hairs. Any Overflow game of course. This year's kusoge of the year is another contender.

>>44119576
Pink never got her route patched in?

>>44119576
Can you explain about mean further regarding Garden (unless it's a notable spoiler)? Ideally I plan to read all Cuffs releases so you got me curious here.

>>44117889
scd

>>44119610
nope

>>44119613
https://erogamescape.dyndns.org/~ap2/ero/toukei_kaiseki/povlist_game.php?game=8758&pov_id=39
https://erogamescape.dyndns.org/~ap2/ero/toukei_kaiseki/povlist_game.php?pov_id=17&game=8758#pov_infomation
or read the changelog for the 670MB v3 patch:
https://www.cuffs.co.jp/products/garden/support/support.htm

>>44119704
>>44119610
>they released without pink's route and then never finished developing it
What the fuck were they thinking?

>>44119576
Pink is the cutest so it's too bad she never got a route.

>>44119741
>>44119760
>このような決断をするに至り、大変心苦しいのですが、時間を費やしてもこれ以上の進展は難しいと判断した結果です。何とぞご理解頂きますよう、よろしくお願い致します。
please understand

>>44119792
No. Garden remake with Ruri route when.

>>44119792
I'm so disappointed

Oh fuck off. Fucking plotges...

>>44117889
https://vndb.org/v33944

Can someone share a non-translated eroge with lots of blowjob scenes?

>>44120384
The newest milk factory game has a dedicated
>click to immediately cut to a blowjob h-scene
button
Made the game take forever because I just kept clicking it like a dog.

Playing tenshi souzou right now. I hate that they use the past life thing to conveniently advance the plot and then just throw it away. Also no harem route, despite the girls seeming to be okay with it, and when he gets a gf none of the others are jealous at all. It doesn't help that the mc is a boring polite self insert. Right now I'm thinking I'll just finish Kurumi's and Amane's route before uninstalling.

>>44120418
> I hate that they use the past life thing to conveniently advance the plot and then just throw it away.
How far are you? It's pretty important to several routes.

>>44120421
I'm halfway through Noa's branch route.

>>44120401
It's this one https://vndb.org/v38511 ? also, that's an.... interesting button.
Isn't this a nukige though?

>>44120432
Isn't that what you asked for?

>>44118996
I self inserted and had a good fap there

>>44120434
>eroge
They are not the same, I want a VN with lots of blowjob yes, but I like having an actual story for it.

>>44120430
Noa and Amane have the past lives be really important to the plot. Kurumi's route has the past life be pretty important, but not as important as you'd think it would be.

>>44117794
お尻っ娘ヴィーナス.
Phl also has an heroine like your pic.

>>44120450
nukige are a subcategory of eroge
eroge is a very broad catch-all

Is Ikusa Megami finished like Rance? I haven't heard as much as a peep from this series.

>>44120432
Fine. I'll torrent this meme game. I still hate cancer chests.

>>44120634
Enjoy the slippery slope.

>>44118996
I cried in that scene

All the eops that come here must be from Reddit or Fuwanovel.

>>44119837
The silver lining is that Cuffs released her CGs and they are super hot.

>>44120781
They just make me want her route more. Wish they just tried to make something work with what they had even if it wasn't everything they wanted

>>44120639
The mothers are not very appealing to me. The daughters are amazing tho

Can't seem to hook 穢翼のユースティア on textractor. First time mining on VN's. Anyone know any other way to so it?

>>44120860
Here's how

>>44120855
I'm convinced Anastasia's mother is Derauea self insert.

>>44120860
You remind me of something. I was too dumb to understand how to use text hooker. After struggling for several days, I said fuck it and started doing my reps.

>>44120860
Games made with that engine (BGI/Ethornell) shouldn't need special codes, just check every hook line until one with normal text comes in.

is there only threesome endings in 3ping lovers?

>>44120922
The law of that land is that 1 man must take 2 wives because of... reason I don't remember. So yes.

>>44118996
unironically the scariest part of the whole vn

>>44120936
damn... wathever thanks for the very fast response

>>44120781
>Cuffs released her CGs
Where? I'm interested but it seems I constantly mess up to find necessary google keywords.

>>44121136
Found them in sadpanda/exhentai

>>44121213
Thanks. Looks like they are published here on the official site: https://www.cuffs.co.jp/products/garden/special/index.html

Do you think VN scenario writers ever do location trips to research overseas locations?

>>44117794
any vn with an heroine like pic related?

>>44121420
Wasn't ef using some overseas location as a setting and backgrounds?
But it's almost certainly very rare, especially in current market.

>>44121420
>to research overseas
lol

>>44121680
Good thing they don't. They'd be adding brownies, fatties and other undesirables.

>>44119576
>https://vndb.org/v16489

this one fuck up so badly they basically had to release the entire game again with a different file name scheme, the only older files that are used are voices and bgm.
the patch is 1gb and the game itself 2gb.

>>44122386
Is that why that's their last game too?

>>44122420
maybe lol, hoinestly if they used something like xdelta patching they could have done in like 3mb.

One day i'll read Koihime.

>>44122591
I have started reading kakumei recently and it has been pretty decent, feels like your usual moege but with the three kingdoms references everywhere
Karin has a pretty nice personality as well

Imagine. A Japanese eroge set in Korea.

>>44122959
I don't know enough about gooks to imagine that.

>>44122959
That would never sell.

>>44122959
In North Korea. Could you imagine that?
It might involve a couple of pointy missiles and nice nuclear multimegaton explosion as the ending background.

>>44120860
Look at it this way, this is your chance to stop being a hookoid

>>44123254
Oh and you also could have genocidal yandere sister as heroine. She might even blow up a couple of her rivals' houses.

>>44123246
I know the setting isn't actually Korea, but Blue Archive is a 100% Korean developed soshage with 100% Korean artists as their chara design. And it exploded in popularity in Japan, just see the number of circles in the next Comiket as one indicator. Honestly BA popularity in nippon still surprised me even now.

>>44123485
So was Azur Lane once upon a time. If it features moe girls, it doesn't matter to them where it comes from.

>>44123485
>BA popularity in nippon still surprised me even now.
They were paying jap artists to draw fanart and upload it to twitter and the faggots actually accepted it.
Also nothing of that has anything to do with VNs set in korea.

>>44122759
But do i have to read them in order of release?
And is it bad if i don't know much about this period, is there like a built-in encyclopedia?

>>44123596
dude its fucking porn what the fuck is wrong with you....

I'm still baffled that they're willing to feature Chink girls to be fucked in multiple eroge, but somehow Gook girls are off limits.

>>44123726
I can't even really think of any Korean girls in Japanese media. In terms of chinks I can at least think of that one girl from Infinite Stratos and Meirin from CCS but that's about it.

>>44123833
>>44123726
Chinks can at least have an exotic appeal and some semblance of a culture, gooks don't even have this. They're just the americans of asia

>>44120896
reps of what? You didnt mine

>>44123596
http://baseson.nexton-net.jp/kakumei-gi/concept/q-and-a/index.html
They say on the official site that it is recommended to start with kakumei so..

>>44123909
>Chinks can at least have an exotic appeal and some semblance of a culture
At least Taiwan and (previously) Hong Kong existed. But mainland China become a soulless hellhole after the cultural revolution.

>>44123833
There's a Chinese love live now

>>44123909
They could try to get a Kpoop idol since that's what they're known for in terms of pop culture. Have them fill a subset of gyaru.

>>44123930
Current china is a soulless hellhole but they have an actual history that you can dig through for inspiration. Koreans don't

>>44123927
Don't mind him, some retards here think you need to have perfect Japanese before even attempting to read a vn for some reason. I started reading vns when I knew maybe a hundred words and kana and now I only look up a word maybe every 10 minutes.

>>44123936
I dropped Sunshine after three episodes and haven't watched any LL besides the first one. Is it any good?

>>44123723
porn doesn't have 50hrs of chink history filler

>>44123985
I haven't watched s2 yet but I enjoyed s1 a lot, I'm not usually that into idols but it was fun. I liked the smaller cast that allowed more focus on each girl, and visually it was very nice looking and colorful. Of course s2 introduces new ones though. If you didn't like it after 3 episodes I don't know how much you'd like the rest though.

>>44124103
I think I'll pass then. The only idol anime I really enjoyed in recent times was the new loli idolm@ster. The 3d shit other idol shows do is really off putting to me.

>>44123985
Both Nijigasaki and Superstars are great for different reasons but something tells me you’ll just drop them, so no don’t bother.

>>44124143
You're a pedophile aren't you?

>>44124202
dangerously based

>>44124202
It's a good show anon...

>>44124202
How in the world do you get deep enough into otaku culture to read untranslated VNs and still feel like morally grandstanding about loli

>>44124202
I am.

>>44124252
It's bait

>>44124252
We've had MTL tourists in the thread, so I'm hardly surprised...

>>44123928
Ah shit.
Well thank you anon, it's nice that they made this QA really helpfull.

>>44124143
>>44124236
Have you watched IM@S 2011 at least?

>>44124451
Yes but I only watched the first season of CG.

>>44119576
Digital Cute games always need like ten patches. They are pretty ambitious with their engine though

>>44119576
>This year's kusoge of the year is another contender.
Wait what game do you mean?

>>44120860
Try /HA8:-14@421530/pnBGI.exe

>>44124733
https://erogamescape.dyndns.org/~ap2/ero/toukei_kaiseki/game.php?game=33133

>>44124918
I once tried to understand the timeline of this fucking franchise and I actually couldn't manage, theres several different manga and VNs that are all sequels or reboots of each other and I'm pretty sure the main character gets amnesia two different times.

>>44125100
kek

>>44124918
Jinki sounds like chinky and I laugh every time

>>44125122
It just reminds me of Scooby Doo

>>44125100
>I'm pretty sure the main character gets amnesia two different times.
christ

>>44125122
fuck you for making me laugh with that shitty pun

What's the funniest VN you've played? The less known the better.

>>44125384
Oretsuba probably

>>44125384
Summer Pockets

>>44125384
I don't read funny VNs

>>44125384
Henpri

>>44125419
That's badass

>>44125384
humor is subjective

>>44125384
Unironically this https://vndb.org/v7093
Saotome Takuya is still the peak of humor for me and nothing ever comes even close

>>44125612
I agree but no one said it wasn't as far as I can tell.

>>44125384
i don't read a lot of funny vns and i don't laugh very often but oppai maid gakuen got me laughing out loud a few times.

>>44124918
Woah, I didn't know it was THAT bad.

>>44125384
https://vndb.org/v24854
this probably isn't the funniest but its funnier than I was expecting and the girls have good chemistry

>>44125384
Honestly, it's probably Senshinkan.

>>44125384
https://vndb.org/v2352
It's not really meant to be a comedy but I was laughing the whole time because of how absurd it gets the further you read

>>44125878
Same

>>44125770
Amazing how Atelier Kaguya NEVER made a single bad game

>>44125770
Is this henpri but good?

>>44125384
Ayakashi, the bonus route in particular

>>44120891
It absolutely is, given how much oneshota stuff she's drawn.

>>44125384
Rakuen got more than a few chuckles from me.

>>44120401
>click to immediately cut to a blowjob h-scene button
eroge has existed for over 20 years and they're the first to do this? they're playing chess while the rest of the eroge world is playing checkers.

>>44126627
Hmaid truly is the Elden Ring of tiddy harem nukige

>>44125897
This looks so ridiculously edgy, can't believe these guys were the Yuzusoft predecessor (?)

>威勢のいい
is this rare???????

>>44120384
https://vndb.org/v8507 is very blowjob centric, but it comes with the caveat that there a lot of gangbang scenes in it, standard Liquid though.
What I also like about it is that the girls are willingly slaves and willingly get trained, the main two girls anyway. And their personalities are both very nice especially Shizuku. I like the whole setting and pimping angle but I don't want to see them get fucked or lust after other cocks that should happen off screen or something.

How many of you know how to play Mahjong? It's getting to the point where I've got enough stuff centered around it in my backlog to warrant learning

>>44127432
I learned from watching a turbo autistic vshitter.

>>44127432
I thought knowing how to play Mahjong was a requirement to learn Japanese. You're telling me there are people here who don't know how to play?

Is Mahjong even fun?
I like Chess so eventually I'd like to learn Shogi but learning Mahjong never crossed my mind.

>>44127567
Mahjong is fun if you're into probability theory.

>>44127567
Depends if you're a lesbian or not.

>>44127567
Shogi is cool and if you like chess you'll like this too. I couldn't get into the promotion mechanic.

kendo > shogi > i-go > pachinpo > muhdong

>>44127432
I learned it to read/watch Fukumoto stuff (Akagi and Ten) but forgot how to play it after I was done with that.

Mahjong looks more confusing than it actually is. The game itself is extremely simple and you can learn how to play it in 10 minutes.

>>44126862
>the girls are willingly slaves and willingly get trained
FUCK
THAT
SHIT
Seriously, every time with this nonsense. It is RAPE. They are not supposed to like getting raped. They are not meant to get mindbroken by the cock(not immediately, at least). They should be either seething with rage or full of complete despair and crying as the Cock is being whipped out. Fucking Jap shits.

>>44127649
>They are not supposed to like getting raped.
They do though. That's how women work.

>>44127432
I know

>>44127649
This.
>>44127696
Who cares how they work? Despair is fun, mindbreak is boring.

I fucking love inheriting two story apartment buildings from my dead grandfather then becoming the manager and staring at all the girls' individual rooms via a map view while contemplating which one I'm going to fuck tonight

Is bakage an official genre?

>>44128041
have an upvote, my good friend

>>44128122
There are no "official" genres. If it's useful as a tool for designating a subset of works, it's a genre.

>>44128041
It's a common setup but I've never read anything with it.

>>44127588
What's your opinion on Kyuudo?

>>44127649
>>44127815
You're moronic sociopaths who only get off on pain of others. Having them enjoy them is the ultimate reward.

>>44127649
Tell us about your mother.

>>44127696
You go rape some women then and tell us how that works out for you.

>>44128187
If I wanted them to enjoy it I'd look for something tagged anything else

>>44128239
Look for something tagged with rape then. There is overlap but slavery and training isn't the same as rape.

>>44127432
I will never learn mahjong related kanji compounds
Everytime there is a conversation about either majong/japanese food i go full
>trace on
>brain off

>>44128228
Stockholm Syndrome eventually kicks in, more effective if you have a handsome face.

>>44127432
I play on and off ever since the original Saki anime aired over like a decade ago.

>>44128180
Nice to watch but I can't do it. If I was an archer I'd use knives.

Nukitashi really is such an intensely otaku work; representing all the glorious excesses of what this medium is all about, and as a shameless fan of otaku media, I simply found it sooo much goddamn fun That said, I do have a few more chats about some interesting features of Nukitashi's storytelling now that I've seen everything it has to say:
(1) Nukitashi's vacant politics

Nukitashi is, I think, an uncontroversially excellent work of satire-as-entertainment. The premise of an entire totalitarian political regime dedicated to the proposition of dosukebe sex is such rich, fertile grounds for ridicule, and Nukitashi is wildly successful at plumbing this setting for a veritable mountain of exploitable comedic content. Seriously, I really can't overstate how extremely fucking funny this game is, guys, and you really owe it to yourself to play it~

But... satire often isn't just a means to the end of entertainment; it has tremendous power as a tool of social commentary and political critique, and I feel that Nukitashi itself very much had such aspirations with its storytelling. Unfortunately, though, as you can probably tell from my lukewarm tone, I feel like the game's satire was much less successful on this front. Apart from some banal platitudes like "arbitrarily discriminating against minorities is bad, guys", I find it very difficult to construct a cogent argument about what Nukitashi is actually satirizing?

Certainly, Nukitashi does a consistently excellent and hilarious job of pointing out "lmaooo, isn't the idea of a place like Seiran Island sooo farcical and absurd~?", but it's deeply unclear to me what the political project of this satire actually is. At the very least, I feel like it hardly even tries to present the "best possible arguments" for the ideology it is trying to critique with its satire, such that its attempted answers like "what if we don't use violence to coerce people into having sex against their will?" or "y'know, hows about we just not discriminate against sexual minorities?" don't end up feeling especially satisfying or insightful. Conversely, almost all of the genuinely interesting political dilemmas the game raises--the inherent capitalistic tension between economic development and individual exploitation, the tricky need to balance the will of the majority and the necessity of minority rights... all of it is largely hand-waved away by the unimpressively trite neoliberal "solution" of putting a nicer person in charge and making some commonsensical reforms to the system... To be sure, the vast majority of all media--everything from reincarnation isekai to superhero films--could be accused of being just as politically vacant and cowardly, but still, I was perhaps hoping for something more politically ambitious from a work like Nukitashi that at least superficially seemed to be so sharp with its satire!

Ultimately, I think my feelings on Nukitashi's satire could be summed up like this: I'm left with the curious feeling that two people with completely different views regarding the issues of sexual politics Nukitashi raises (i.e. people who hold very different opinions on questions like "are displays of sex something that belong in the public sphere?", "is excessive obscenity and depravity something to be ashamed of?", "does sex have any meaning beyond being an act to derive hedonistic pleasure from?", etc.) could both read Nukitashi and walk away feeling affirmed in their own ideologies and feeling like the game totally owned the perspectives they disagree with~ And while this fact doesn't detract one bit from the genius of Nukitashi's satire-as-entertainment, I think this outcome could only be considered a failure for a work that aims to achieve genuine political critique.

>>44126785
>This looks so ridiculously edgy
Yeah. Look up all the CG online and you can see how ridiculous it gets with the demon and insect bath mindbreak.

>>44128403
>Nukitashi really is such an intensely otaku work
glad I can ignore it

>>44128403
(2) Media portrayals of ideology

This was an argument I first thought of few months back upon finishing a Winter 2023 anime I quite enjoyed called Tenten, but was crystallized much stronger upon my readthrough of Nukitashi...

By the way, Tenten is a very nice anime and you should definitely check it out, but one of the issues I took with it was the fact that as a work, it very much adopts the language and aesthetics of a revolutionary ideology (with the very explicit framing of the protagonists' political project as a "revolution"!) but, like so many other works that notionally swathe themselves in the appealing aesthetics of "revolution", it does nothing more than pay lip service to this concept and can hardly be said to embody a genuine revolutionary ethic! (Tenten, too, contents itself with the decidedly-NOT-revolutionary resolution of putting a nicer person in power and passing a few feel-good reforms while preserving all the existing power structures...) True, genuine revolution entails a fundamental rupturing of the existing social order; a radical reimagination and remaking of political institutions and power structures, and I didn't feel like Tenten--or Nukitashi for that matter--credibly portrays this ideology even in spite of how much the writers, with Jun as their mouthpiece, love to indulge in the rhetoric of revolution >__<

In all fairness, the sociology of revolution, having been one of my substantive areas of study and research, is something quite near and dear to my heart, and so, I can't help but frown slightly when it gets treated in non-thoughtful and flippant ways in media--I imagine that computer security experts feel the same way towards, say, media depictions of hackers xD

Anyways, I suppose my ultimate argument is just that I feel like depictions of revolutions in media often come across as rather hollow and not-credible, whereas some more thoughtful and well-researched writing could easily ameliorate this issue! One of my larger issues with Nukitashi's narrative was the fact that every route revolves entirely around the White Haired Girl and her not-especially-credible MacGuffin-esque significance to the plot, whereas I feel like this issue could have been easily written around with more attention given to the actual mechanisms of revolutionary success like the "decades where nothing happens" process of laborious political agitation that that Lenin quote speaks to. Instead, though, we're just meant to believe that the revelation that Fumino is Hitoura's illegitimate child is capable of bringing down the entire Seiran Island regime in a span of a few days, or that her giving a big televised speech is capable of spontaneously inciting all of the islanders to social unrest. Indeed, Nukitashi even occasionally brushed against some more thoughtful revolutionary ideas--the process of covertly collecting signatures and engaging in political agitation, the notion that Jun could become a "Rosa Luxemburg-esque" figure that can build political consciousness through the power of his dick rhetoric, these are really cool ideas that Nukitashi could've engaged with much more deeply rather than content itself with the naive conception that "revolution" is simply about taking out the big bad in charge rather than radically remaking the structures of power.

One last thing that I wanted to mention is a little curious observation that Nukitashi (but also lots of media, otaku or otherwise!) seems to be so extremely insistent in foregrounding the salience of "personal motivations" rather than "ideological motivations" in informing characterization. What I mean is that almost exclusively, it seems that characters are motivated to take action by "petty" events like personal trauma and tragedies rather than philosophical ideals and convictions! In the true route, for example, we learn that all three of the major power brokers care about the fate of Seiran Island for exclusively personal reasons--to avenge the wrongful death of a relative, to live up to a loved one's image of themselves, etc. such that their ideological motivations are largely rendered moot. I'm genuinely curious what other folks think about this, but I find this a rather unsatisfying approach to characterization, simply because I feel like this isn't especially true to life? Can you imagine if all history narratives were constructed like this?! Rather than being convinced of the truth of vicious ideologies like scientific racism and antisemitism, Hitler just did the Holocaust because Jews killed his parents? Rather than being moved by his great ideal of wanting to liberate all people from suffering, the Buddha decided to pursue enlightenment because he wanted to prove to his crotchety old grandfather that he could make something of himself?

>>44128419
To be sure, Nukitashi isn't more guilty of this than many other works as well, but still, I feel like it makes the fairly deliberate artistic decision to marginalize the importance of ideology in favour of shallow personal motivations, and that it could've been a far more interesting work if it engaged with the best possible versions of the arguments from both sides! I, for one, find tragic backstories far less compelling than genuine disagreements of philosophy and ideology~

(3) How to make entertaining fight scenes

Nukitashi, I think, genuinely has some of the best "fight scenes" in the whole medium of eroge! I'm usually not the biggest fan of action-centric works, but I think Nukitashi (despite not seeming like it at all) manages to pull off the conceit of delivering fun-to-read fight scenes superbly well~ I'd argue that the comedy of its parody is at its absolute best here, and that the sheer novelty and ridiculousness of, say, using a dildo as a melee weapon and delivering surgical one-hit-kills in the form of incapacitatingly-pleasurable orgasms just really doesn't get old all throughout Nukitashi's runtime. I also greatly appreciated that rather than trying to be "serious" and "tense", Nukitashi completely leaned into its farcical, rompy, "B-movie" style of storytelling. Yes, the protagonists are always going to be facing outrageously hopeless odds. Yes, everyone has ridiculously thick plot armour, and you know that that they're somehow always gonna pull victory out of their ass. But I think it's somewhat unimaginative to assert that setups like these make for bad storytelling when really, they're totally awesome and entertaining if done right! Make no mistake, I am certainly still underselling just how campy and cheesy and eye-roll-inducing all the action setpieces can get, but damn if you won't have the biggest dumb smile on your face the whole time you're on the edge of your seat reading about the whole gang surviving by the skin of their teeth through the power of blowup sex dolls~

(4) Sex, sex, everywhere, and yet...

Perhaps somewhat ironically, the worst part of Nukitashi is, I think, the H content? To be fair, some of the H-scenes really are quite good if only for the novelty (the "sex as shounen battle" ones, for example~) but besides that, all the "honest" H-scenes are really, like, sorta lame and not very good? >__<

To be fair, it's not like the H-scenes are egregiously bad by any means. They're just nothing special and utterly forgettable when I was expecting Nukitashi of all games to offer some special insight on how to write H well; to be able to deliver them in a more naturally-paced manner, to manage to be more titillating than the average fare. Unfortunately though, Nukitashi really didn't pull it off, such that all the scenes that don't leverage some unique conceit in its premise could totally be mistaken for generic H-fare in a mediocre moege. To be fair, perhaps a lot of these issues are just sort of intractable and endemic, and I'm certainly willing to accept the conjecture that it's basically impossible to write scenes that simultaneously manage to be (1) well-paced and fit into the story, (2) enhance characterization and development, and (3) are really hot, especially in a heavily story-oriented work... but at the very least, if there was any work that might've been able to achieve this, it seemed like Nukitashi ought to have been the one to do it~ Perhaps Nukitashi 2 could prove me wrong? God I just want my Asane route so fucking badly...

>>44127649
Like 99% of slave training games is of the rape 調教 variety, and the 堕ちる過程 is almost always nonsense. And then the game ends when you reach what youre aiming for.
Just give me girls that are happy if not outright proud to be a slave from the start. I don't want to train girls, I just want the end goal.

And pure rape, if that's what youre talking about, is an entirely different genre anyway, if that's what you want. It's not supposed to be the same.

>>44128424
>Just give me girls that are happy if not outright proud to be a slave from the start.
There's a few that are like that. They also tend to be your partners in crime in getting more slaves.

...she's about to rape his desk, isn't she.

seems like /jav/ finally gathered enough balls to raid this general

>>44120384
well apparently this has lots of blowjob scenes according to this review
https://vndb.org/w2591#review

All this slave talk makes me want to replay Daiteikoku CORE route. Does anyone have a save that unlocks it? Want to instantly jump into it.

>>44128473
Not /jav/, Jeff.

>>44128419
> Nukitashi (but also lots of media, otaku or otherwise!) seems to be so extremely insistent in foregrounding the salience of "personal motivations" rather than "ideological motivations" in informing characterization. What I mean is that almost exclusively, it seems that characters are motivated to take action by "petty" events like personal trauma and tragedies rather than philosophical ideals and convictions!
That’s what makes otaku media good unlike western slop. Real human emotions will always be deeper and more resonant than much ideology.

>>44128424
There need to be more games of this kind. Or even moege heroines like this.

Searching the first sentence of that wall of text returns a reddit post from 4 days ago
Fuck off, faggot

>>44129062
It's that pathetic guy who has nothing better to do but to spend his time on there to mock redditors: >>44038885
I guess he's overtly trolling the thread now.

>>44129062
>>44129156
Seething redditors found. If you weren't you'd just laugh at that faggot.

>>44120855
While I like the daughters, don't get me wrong, I think almost every single daughter is outclassed by her respective mom

>>44128403
>but it's deeply unclear to me what the political project of this satire actually is.
I know you're just reposting someone else's meme review, but did this guy not pay attention at all? Fumino had like a 15 minute long speech at the end of the true route where she looked at the camera and explained the moral of the story. It was south park "I learned something today" tier.

>>44128187
>who only get off on pain of others
That's the entire point of rape, you dolt.

>>44130084
It can also mean forcefully copulating your one sided crush.

I'm really in the mood to read something super emotional like Hatsusaku or Sakumoyu or Asairo or Rewrite where the music just pierce through your soul

>>44119792
CUFFS and the writer failed so Im just going to enjoy Ruri in the common route and imagine a scenario that leads to her unreleased content afterwards.

Ryona is surprisingly erotic.

>>44128434
i bet she smells like candies

>>44130511
Why would you torture yourself like this lmao

>>44125100
None of the games are important. The original and ext are the only things that matter. They're not complicated in any way and in fact very nice; the games are a straight up insult to anyone that enjoyed the original mango.

>>44130638
No one is going to tell me about Ruri and I want to know more about her so the only option is READ, NIGGA, READ.

>>44130511
Same, anon.

>>44130633

>>44130511
I will never forgive CUFFS

Norwegian Wood is too similar to an eroge to be mere coincidence

>>44133431
How?
Something about Murakami makes me unable to remember anything from his books, despite having read a few of them.

>>44133501
Midori is pretty much the only good thing about this novel. Rest are just depressing and boring, desu.
>>44133431
Wind-Up Bird Chronicle is literally mindbreak and ntr. It's reasonable to assume eroge writers took inspiration from real novels and not the other way around.

You lads know any eroge that feature guro as beautifully as KnS does? I'm not looking for fap material here, by the way/

>>44133431
Some eroge writers got their inspiration from his works. I remember finding some parts of The Wind-up Bird Chronicle similar to Key's works and later found out Maeda is a Murakami fan.

Are there any eroge that dabble on the topic of HIV/AIDS from having too much sex with different people?

>>44134154
Why?

>>44134154
Eroge typically take place in Japan not Africa.

>>44134171
>>44134239
But the rates are increasing and we all know why.

>>44134252
Russians?

>>44134287
And Nigerians
And Turks
And Viets

>>44134154
https://vndb.org/v21199

>>44134297
And Americans

Guys, do you know of any sites/torrents that host japanese psp isos?

I usually find whatever I need on cdromance or archive.org or myrient

But I haven't been able to find この青空に約束を― てのひらのらくえん anywhere yet

I can find the ps2 disc easily but that doesn't have the extra heroine (ちひろ)

Thanks in advance!

>>44134252
We should go back to using condoms in vns to bring back that sense of 特別 when they do it without it, the whole 生セックス have become bastardized in the last decade thanks to the dozens of different birth control methods and don't give the same impression it gave 13 years ago.

>>44134576
No luck on my side.

>>44134576
If it's the 2015 psp one, I see it up on AB, but it's slightly too big for litterbox

>>44134627
NTA but 2015 is Vita isn't it? VNDB doesn't state if Vita version has the extra heroine from the PSP one and given how it's titled it's probably not on there.
The PSP version from 2009 is on AB too (1.29 GiB).

1.44 GiB*

>>44134396
Which one has the AIDS?

>>44134662
Yeah I'm dumb, the one he's asking for is the 2009 PSP release per VNDB. Would be kind of odd if the 2015 release didn't have the extra content though imo

>>44134576
Did you search the romanized name? I think I was able to get it on some random site sometime ago so it's shouldn't be that hard to find.

>>44134691
Yeah this makes me think the Vita one has all the same content. They call it the definitive edition:
http://entergram.co.jp/aozora_vita/point.html

>>44134691
>>44134576
>『ROYAL SWEET COLLECTION』に追加キャラ「ちひろ」のストーリーが収録されていたので、[...]
On EGS someone says that the Giga Royal Sweet Collection on PC includes the extra girl's route (ちひろ). Might be worth getting this to play at an acceptable resolution rather than playing the older PSP version.
It's available here: https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/2657250

How come Sakuuta is rated 8.72 on vndb and Sakutoki only 8.37? Did it flop? Haven't read anything about it btw.

>>44134737
I haven't read either, but that still seems like a pretty good score by any standard.

>>44134737
Sakuuta's score is way too high

>>44134767
Yeah, but often sequels are rated higher since the people who didn't like the game don't read the sequel, like Utawarerumono 3 is rated way higher than Utawarerumono 2

>>44134808
Sakuuta is a considered a great classic, it's hard for sequels to live up to that kind of hype

>>44134576
Any good dating sims for the PSP?

>>44134808
Still, I don't think you could ever call an 8.4 a 'flop'.

>>44134836
Amagami?

>>44134844
read it already.

>>44134808
It's actually higher on Erogamescape.

>>44134737
They absolutely failed Sakutoki, the real rating should be 7 at best

>>44134737
Friendly reminder half of those votes are MTL

>>44134871
And the other half could be people who ctrl'd, weren't paying attention, only read part of it, or didn't even read it and wanted to lower the score so their favorite VN would be higher-rated so they gave it like a 7 since giving it a 2 would be too obvious.
You shouldn't care about online review scores, basically.

>>44134847
How about Photokano? Dating sim is pretty niche I guess.

>>44134900
yeah also lover kiss for the switch, waiting for the fucking vita emulator to get good to play recolove.

>>44134895
It already had 20 10/10 votes before release

>>44134895
>or didn't even read it and wanted to lower the score so their favorite VN would be higher-rated so they gave it like a 7 since giving it a 2 would be too obvious.
>You shouldn't care about online review scores, basically.
Some people should really just fucking kill themselves

>>44134895
Those who weren't paying attention are the ones who are giving it 10s just for good graphics
No one who actually cared about it would give it more than 7

>>44134863
This makes more sense imo. I think people started rating it on vndb after the trial was released, maybe that was a factor

>>44134921
You shouldn't really pay attention to the scores from vndb anyways

>>44134396
Yeah who has the HIV here?

>>44134936
Damn, I should really play Maid Gakuen

>>44134956
Hasshaku too

>>44134936
I mean, it makes sense. Hmaid is nearly as good as a game can get at what it does, it deserves an extremely high rating. It's apples to oranges. It's like saying
>This hammer is extremely good at hammering nails, it gets a 9/10
>This cordless electric drill is quite good at drilling holes, 8/10
>therefore the hammer is better than the drill
They do different things

>>44134972
I wish I could enjoy giant-titge, it would open a whole new world for me. But alas.

>>44134984
Perhaps start with medium titge and work your way up.

>>44134936
>Clannad higher than Oppai Kino
Ridiculous.

>>44134995
I personally prefer the medium to small range, but unfortunately it seems there is less and less middle ground between completely flat and giant. Trying to reprogram my brain into liking giant tits is tempting, but I also want to stand my ground.

>when a game keeps calling a girl small but she's barely smaller than the designated big titted girls

>>44135017
>Completely flat
We haven't been getting those either. Really, it's just double downing on mega milkers now.

>>44135017
> but unfortunately it seems there is less and less middle ground between completely flat and giant
We're watching eroge makers hyperspecialize in real time. The eroge business is basically like the galapagos finches. Nobody wants to have a well-rounded build when they could min/max
>>44135027
Lolige are still coming out.

>>44134972
Their next game should be just about hags imo.

>>44135027
It's probably still more common than medium though, because this >>44135025 is usually their fate.

>>44135034
I think they want to make a hag-game focused on the milfs but are scared it might lose their audience.

>>44135027
Apologize to yuzusoft right fucking now

>>44135059
I will once they make a game that's nothing but Noa tier chested girls.

>>44135066
>man nobody is making flat-chested girls anymore
>what about this major recent release with a completely flat-chested girl
Your desires can never be quenched, can they?

>>44135059
Yeah and she was good but all the other heroines were in the large to very large range, so on average they're still getting bigger.

>>44135071
See >>44135072
I don't want to be treated like a second class citizen being thrown scraps. I want full catered service.

i will never apologize to kemonomimi haters

The future of eroge will be the ability to choose the chest size for every girl of the roster
They can't keep going from extreme to extreme forever

>>44135086
How would that work with CGs then?

>>44134936
No different from EGS, a minority inflating a score should always be ignored. Milk Factory games are glorified scene viewers with terrible designs

>>44135086
The issue with customization is that it will hamper artistic quality. Compositions for artworks take into account the girl's body type and whatnot. This is why this kind of thing is only prevalent in 3D games so far.

>>44135095
>AI時代へようこそ!

>>44135098
>No different from EGS
huh?

>>44135099
They've already dabbled into personality and hair types with https://vndb.org/v30458 It's only a matter of time.

>>44135099
Most moege and nukige these days lost any artistic values at this point, it's the same face with just different hair and boobs again and again

>>44134972
ダイワスカーレット、 行くわよ!

>>44135079
Your taste will go extinct in a few years thanks to a combination of western pressure on japan deeming anything petite as pedophilia and japan catching up to the "thicc" meme, i hope you still have a lot of flat heroines saved for when the time comes.

>>44135169
I don't feel like it's happening in other otaku media nearly as much as eroge.

>>44135072
>>44135079
But she was the main heroine, so we can argue they purposely made her flat-chested so she could stand out. While they gave all the other heroines big breasts because they don't matter as much.
>>44135099
>3D games
Not to mention illusion is kill now. What's left besides KISS?

>>44135195
This. Manga, LN, and games still have healthy representation of chest sizes.

>>44135169
There is such thing and demand and offer
No matter how much they will keep forcing their thicc narrative, the flat lovers won't suddenly start liking hags
And as long as there is a demand for it there will be the market, even if in way lover scales than it used to be

>>44135122
>>44135131
I mean for this type of works sure yeah, but I wouldn't want this sort of system for anything sensibly serious. It's not only a matter of visual representation but such a "free for all" design would also hamper the overall writing and direction as the devs won't be able to properly conceptualize the heroine's essence when making the route and thus will fail to project anything of substance because of it.

>>44129739
I just like younger girls

I'm more bothered at how they're not even pleasing to look at anymore. Busty does not mean having balloons plastered on your chest.

>>44135216
>But she was the main heroine
Was she though? I think more people cared about the BR imouto. Besides we're talking about averages here, we all appreciated Noa, but having one flat chested girl (at most) in a sea of cowtits is just a trend I don't like. See also Study Steady 2, Unless Terminalia and many other recent moege.

>>44135195
Anime and manga have it worse right now but with other things, and light novels are doomed since they share an umbilical cord with anime, we are basically in the backlines thanks to eroge being pretty niche but as soon they fall we will soon follow

>>44135226
Eroge devs abide the law at all times, there is a reason why you can't have "gakuen" students drinking 2 drops of alcohol without lawyers coming to your studio to break your legs.

>>44135290
What are you talking about

>>44135337
Almost every plotge has at least 1 underage constantly drinking shit...

>>44135337
If saying "dude trust me they're legal" works for underage H it should work for underage alcohol consumption

>>44135337
In Hatsuyuki Sakura the mc was bascially an alcoholic, and there was a scene with drinking in Subahibi which I'm reading right now. How did they get away with it?

>>44135378
>"dude trust me they're legal"
Some times they don't mention their ages, iirc even games like cafe stella where the MC is technically in college they avoid saying anything related to age, neither it has a disclaimer at the start saying they are over 18, that's mostly a westoid thing(although sometimes some japanese ones put that disclaimer as well)

faggot

>>44135337
I think they just do that as an inside joke or something

Flat "women" are not women.

>>44135712
Fat cows are not humans.

>>44135712
There it is right there, the smoothbrain cowtitfags ruining eroge.

>>44135724
They're superhuman. The next stage of evolution.
>>44135732
If her tits aren't at least the size of her head, she isn't worth shit. I look forward to a future with zero flatties.

>>44134576
https://romsfun.com/roms/playstation-portable/noko-aozora-ni-yakusoku-tenohira-no-rakuen.html

You have to do the romanized name because no EN rom site is going to use kana and no JP rom site is worth it's salt.

>>44135712
Hello my australian friend!

>>44135120
So VNDB is more accurate

Biman 6 delayed to december

>>44135434
>neither it has a disclaimer at the start saying they are over 18, that's mostly a westoid thing(although sometimes some japanese ones put that disclaimer as well)
Every other (Japanese) game I play has this though. At least more recent ones.

>>44136097
That gives me some time to play through the others.

>>44136097
Well at least it's not as ridiculous as that other game that got delayed.

>>44136097
how bout that new bishop game?

>>44136278
You mean this one?

>>44136097
>yuki onna game releasing in winter
As it should be.

>>44136355
He probably means the propeller game.

>>44136355
Was there any explanation for these repeated delays? It's kinda strange.

>>44136504
It was most likely the E-Mote shit.

>>44136097
I was actually surprised that the release date was so close to the announcement
I'm fine with this

>>44135740
Go be a freak fetishist somewhere else.

>>44136639
This is what, the third VN getting massive delays because of implementing bad animations?
Is it really that difficult?

Does anyone have https://vndb.org/v6 saved?
The official download link is long dead and all I can find is the butchered english version

Why does Yuzusoft mosaic buttholes while other eroge developers don't?

>>44138396
Other eroge developers do. I know Ricotta did. I think it's probably an abundance of caution.

>>44138396
>other eroge developers don't?
They do, i have no idea why

>>44138386
I don't have it sorry.
>1 Hour
How do you make something good out of that length? You'd need at least a couple more to establish characterization.

>>44138386
>もし、曲だけで満足できず思い出に浸りたい人はこっそりコンタクトをとってみてください。
身内の方から怒られそうですが、私の方からお渡しさせて頂きます。
Email this guy https://rain-blue.com/notes/snowy-flower-tinsmith/

>>44138450
NTA but then by that logic children storybooks are "bad" because they're not long and have mostly archetypal characterization? Length has nothing to do with whether a piece of work will be "good" or bad". Short stories have always existed.
One-shots are a good example of that if we're talking about manga for example, and there are a bunch of short anime out there which are also pretty great despite being under 10min long.

>>44138477
Not equivalent. Children's stories are short by design because they have short attention spans. One shots are like pilot episodes which are for the purpose of pitching interest for more. The only case I can think of where short OVA's have been good are those artsy abstract animations that don't have otaku in mind.

>>44138512
>Not equivalent. Children's stories are short by design because they have short attention spans.
You don't understand anything about child psychology, you are also conveniently omitting me talking about short stories.
>One shots are like pilot episodes which are for the purpose of pitching interest for more.
No they're not strictly used for that purpose.
>The only case I can think of where short OVA's have been good are those artsy abstract animations that don't have otaku in mind.
You're wrong and probably haven't watched more than a few dozens anime.

Damn. That you don't have any artistic or creative inclination is one thing, but don't try to rationalize it by trying to pass off your dumb generalizations as objective.

>>44138512
Short stories which you can read under one hour often get adapted into movies anon, so why would a VN that is 1h long be bad? It makes no sense, they're both books.

Sana your time has come

>>44138529
>You don't understand anything about child psychology, you are also conveniently omitting me talking about short stories.
Hah, rich coming from a loser invested in porn games.
>No they're not strictly used for that purpose.
More often than not they are.
>You're wrong and probably haven't watched more than a few dozens anime.
N-no u is not an argument.

>Damn. That you don't have any artistic or creative inclination is one thing, but don't try to rationalize it by trying to pass off your dumb generalizations as objective.
Your crying doesn't invalidate what I said.

>>44138535
VN's and movies are structurally different. Do you realize how the former gets trashed if it has a bunch of throwaway characters and plotlines that movies tend to to get away with?

>>44138617
braindead

>>44138627
Concession accepted.

>>44138617
>How do you make something good out of that length?
I don't think you understand your position anon. I may have written with a bit of a harsh tone but I'm trying to make you realize something which is obvious to most people and which you evidently cannot grasp for yourself.
The argument you're desperately trying to win is equivalent to you hitting yourself right now. It's just sad.

>>44138637
Pathetic

>>44138386
https://mega.nz/file/WTAm3JKS#C5bEtQ-uLxWZUIi_HoEyVwExKRlSIGhDZKMk2Af4950

>>44138665
Not anon but thanks.

>>44138665
Thanks so much anon

>>44138651
Cry more.

>>44138647
Acting condescending won't turn you into some rhetorical superchad. Actually back up what you said or bow out.

Speaking of lost VNs, I've been looking for this VN all day but all the links I've found are either dead or apparently I'm too dumb to find it. It would really make my day if someone who has it saved could share it.
https://vndb.org/v11647

>>44138719
Found on h-suki

>>44138747
Damn I always forget to check hsuki, thanks and sorry for the trouble anon.

>>44138716
This isn't an issue of bringing you the sufficient data that will somehow resolve the ongoing argument, as you will simply contiunously rationalize and reject it as a way to show yourself being on top. It's just about your baby feelings being hurt for not getting the reverence you crave, but even that might take you a moment to realize at this rate.

>>44138775
All that VN reading got you to think that soapbox tirade of yours will make you look based. Tragic.

>>44138719
This looks pretty interesting.

>>44138769
Don't worry about it, I always wanted to try this game so I appreciated the reminder

New thread:
>>44138855
>>44138855
>>44138855

>>44138747
thanks anon I came here to ask about another game and found it on h-suki as well