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Gohda=the seven Stakes
Gohda is the incarnation of the devil and possesses the personalities of Satan, Lucifer, Asmodeus, Bephelgor, Leviathan, Mammon, and Beelzebub

>>4404663
tell me this is fanart

>>4404676

It's fanart

Beatrice = The cousins

Created to please Battler and to be scapegoat for all the murders they committed.

>>4404676
For me it looks Kanonish

Suuuuure op.
In fact, Battler wanted to taste George's boobs.

>>4404862

...!

>>4404874
translation?

Why haven't people figured out that all of them are Battler?
It's clear that he is a delusional freak with serious mental problems and split personalities.
Doesn't it make sense? It would explain everything, all of it would make sense.
The gameboard, the meta-world, all of it are his delusions.
This theory is a devil's proof and you can't deny it.
Furthermore, in ep5 at the end where he supposedly realized the truth about Beatrice and her game, what really happened was that he realized that he was a delusional nutcase and finally took the place as gamemaster in order to battle his inner delusions.

>>4404885
you already lose if you stop thinking

>>4404885
Good theory.
But would make more sense if the one having delusion isn't Battler but the culprit, aka Kanon.

Who is also really named Battler, son of Kyrie and Rudolf.
That's what the ending of episode 4 meant, true Battler from Rokkenjima really is the son of Asumu.
Battler from the meta-world is Kanon who is a delusional nutjob, he sees himself as the Battler we know because he always wanted to be as strong.

>>4404893
you mean Amakusa right?Kanon does not exist.

>>4404663
Is this a whole CG pack?

>>4404903
http://community.livejournal.com/rokkenjima/233217.html

>>4404902
Amakusa is true Battler who survived of course, he has nothing to do with the meta-world.
Meta-Battler is really Shannon/Kanon who is actually Kyrie and Rudolf son/daughter/whatever.

>>4404893
I prefer that the one who is having delusions of the entire games is Amakusa who is actually Battler who want to figure out the truth.

I can't wait for ep7 to come out and shit on all of our theories.

>>4404885
Finally a theory that makes sense. Now what will all the Shkanontrice and jesstrice fags do?

>>4404885
more like Battler was having this delusion in order to find out the truth kinda like a virtual reality quest.

I've stopped bothering trying to come up with theorys on this and that.

I'll just humbly await the conclusion. I don't really need to guess anymore, it's not like it really matters to me.

>>4404885
And a good name for this theory would be?

Have any of you played Eternal Sonata?

My theory is somewhat like this, except Kinzo is Chopin.

>>4404950
Battler's Roleplay

>>4404930
Shannon = Kanon = Beatrice = Jessica = George = Maria = Battler

>>4404954
>The game is centered on the Polish romantic pianist and composer Frédéric Chopin, who died of tuberculosis at the age of 39. The story envisions a fictional world dreamed by Chopin during his last hours that is influenced by Chopin's life and music, and in which he himself is a playable character, among others

Thats fucked up, bro.

>>4404950
"Onahole". Because it doesn't lack love from a certain perspective.

>>4404959

Why

>>4404988
kinda too tragic, don't you think?

>>4404908
i love these!
my new alarm clocks~

>>4404959
I wouldn't put it past Ryukishi.

>>4404885
Because detective cannot be the culprit.
And there has been no hints (knox' rules)

>>4405043
being a man who hates a part of his family and comes back to the island after 6 years + always surviving to the end in every game is a damned good reason to suspect him, but the detective can't be the culprit, so no

>>4405043
>>4405060
You must have missed what makes this theory so brilliant.
Because the rules are his delusions as well it doesn't apply to anything, and the point is that there is no culprit, it was all delusions played out in his head, none died, none of them existed, there is no detective.

>>4405043
>no hints
I believe there have been lots of foreshadowing pointing toward the fact that he isn't right in his head.

>>4405060
No murders, no victims, all delusions: no culprit.

IT WAS ALL A DREAM END

>>4405087

>No murders, no victims, all delusions: no culprit

FINAL DESTINATION

I'm sorry

I don't care how this ends so long as i get my Rudolf arc.

>>4405104

That would be glorious indeed.

>>4405104
>>4405107
ep7/ep8 has to be it, the whole Kyrie/Asumu story has to be explained, thi year we'll have it

>>4405112
No Asumu story till Umineko Rei

>>4405112
Well, so far, the characters who haven't had their entire backstories explained so far are Rudolf, Kyrie, Asumu, Jessica, Nanjo, and Gohda.

I take it we'll get informed about that next, yeah.

>>4405141
Gohda is the detective

>>4405141
Gohda has already notes from a certain cook
we need a Rokkenjima backstory as a whole with Kumasawa, Genji, Nanjo and Kinzo and the Rudolf/Asumu/kyrie backstory
About Jessica..., well she's Jessica

>>4405141

Hideyoshi too. If he doesn't get an arc I'll be mad.

>>4405141
Don't forget Hideyoshi, Genji & Kumasawa.

>>4405146
This would actually not surprise me

>>4405149

Hideyoshi is definitely the culprit. My reasoning for this is because he's not suspicious at all.

And that's pretty damn suspicious if you ask me.

>>4405148
I'm happy for another Jessica story, but only if it leaves the teenage romance shit out.

>>4405154
To me he doesn't have the character & in Ep3 he made it clear how much he loves life.
But in most theories one way or another Hideyoshi has to be involved so i don't know.

>>4405153
using the less obvious (Hideyoshi) is as bad as using the most obvious (Eva)

>>4405157
That's the funny part of it.
Jessica's only "back-story" so far was her hanging out with Shannon and Kanon a year before the story. Meanwhile, every other character, even freaking Krauss, has a whole song and a dance to tell. We've learned more about Jessica from other people than from her own mouth. Rather suspicious, methinks.

>>4405154
If ShKanon is true then according to EP1, he can lie with Kanon for sure. Maybe they are lovers?

>>4405171
Don't do it!

Is Battler present in the real tragedy of Rokkenjima?

>>4405078
WE STILL NEED TO FOLLOW THE RULES.
Umineko, as a mystery genre, needs to follow them.

You can't just pull conclusions out of your ass.

>>4405187

He should be..

The best theory

>>4405169
Well, it'll be nice to see if she had a shitty childhood or a good one.

God tier evilness would be her having a good childhood and have her still kill everyone.

>>4405227

Well, nothing seems to point to the fact she had a bad chilhood.

>>4405237
Well, I'd say the fact that she had LAWFUL STUPID Natsuhi as a mother could potentially make for a bad one.

"You didn't read your books for today, 4 year old Jessica-chan? Ok, 5 hours in a locked closet, gogogogo!"

What if the motive is revenge...for Battler?

>>4405257
He himself establishes the possibility, but I doubt it. Battler is a good dude.

>>4405259
doesn't mean he can prevent his cousins from exacting revenge for him.

>>4405248
Ah, Umineko. Truly an excellent guide on how to raise children.

>>4405267
So, what, George and Jessica are just that in love with Battler that they'll forcibly enact revenge for him? I doubt that!

>>4405268
Poor Ange, she had the best mother & best childhood till she was 6.

I hope this doesn't have any connection to Kanon's overall presence in the game.

>>4405259
>implying Battler isn't delusional

>>4405227
But what is more evil, making other people sad without knowing sadness, or making others sad and knowing what it is?

I have a better theory. Kinzo has been dead for 6 years. Battler's sin is killing Beato's lover and running away.

>>4405277
Battler had a pretty sweet deal with AUAU til he was 12.
And Georgeuwa had a good mother and father, but hell if he appreciates them.

>>4405284
Rosa can top that, she killed Beato.

>>4405282
Well, knowing sadness makes you a bit crazy, hence, your actions a bit more forgivable.
Doing evil on a whim is terrible.

>>4405275
Maybe just Jessica who loves Battler.But for George, he agrees to participate in this to eliminate anyone who is against him with Shannon.Hey i bet he want to be the head of the family.So he would take this opportunity to get rid of Jessica and her parents too.

>>4405286
I think George does appreciate everything, but like his tarot card he has to choose between his future & his lover or stay in the past with his mother.
I can respect that sort of character.

>>4405287
Or possibly assisted suicide.

>>4405294
George really just cares about Shannon.
The prospect of Jessica offering him the headship if he helps her kill everyone because Battler got a boo-boo is also pretty much a stretch.

>>4405296
Oh, I remember the tarot card thing. Didn't Jessica's tarot card pretty much amount to FINAL BOSS material?

>>4405306
what about Jessica offering Shannon the prospect of having George instead if she helps her killing his family?Man at least i could come up with motives for Jessitrice theory other than "BOO HOO YOU FORGOT MY PROMISE"

>>4405324
ponies!

>>4405322

I still don't know why you guys give so much importance to those things.

>>4405324
Well, as for that, Jessica seems to support Shannon and George being together.... t'would be rather odd if she knew about Shkanon, I suppose.

this is the reason why Jessica snapped and killed her family.

>>4405330
Well, they've been pretty in line with the characters thus far, and when the biggest beef with Jessica is her apparent deception, and then she gets a card meaning deception, it's kinda funny.

>>4405322
Pretty much, the moon. But every card apart from the world has a negative aspect to it.

>>4405337
BUT WHO WAS KANON'S PENIS?

>>4405340
The moon is particularly bad, though. To get to the world, the moon has to be dealt with.

>>4405297
Sup /a/.

>>4405347
Yeah, The Tower isn't very positive either, I wonder who will get that.

>>4405337
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!

speaking of motives, Beatrice rants alot about filty love etc.Boy, did Shkannontrice/Jessitrice/whatevertrice got raped or what?what is the significance of those rants to the cause of those murders?!

Ronove has the Devil tarot.
Rosa has the Fool.

>>4405358
Bernkastel, or Erika, I think.

>>4405364
>Ronove
>The Devil
Perhaps the most misunderstood card of all the major arcana, the Devil is not really "Satan" at all, but Pan the half-goat nature god and/or Dionysius. These are gods of pleasure and abandon, of wild behavior and unbridled desires. With Capricorn as its ruling sign, this is a card about ambitions; it is also synonymous with temptation and addiction. On the flip side, however, the card can be a warning to someone who is too restrained, someone who never allows themselves to get passionate or messy or wild - or ambitious. This, too, is a form of enslavement. As a person, the Devil can stand for a man of money or erotic power, aggressive, controlling, or just persuasive. This is not to say a bad man, but certainly a powerful man who is hard to resist. The important thing is to remind the Querent that any chain is freely worn. In most cases, you are enslaved only because you allow it.

Sure sounds like Ronove to me!

>>4405358
To get the tower you have to overcome the devil (Ronove/Genji) so maybe Kinzo or at stretch Gohda?

>>4405364
Rosa fits the fool
>If he is not, then he is just a joker chasing after extravagant diversions, indifferent to the chaos he leaves behind him. A laugh at any price might be his motto.

>>4405362
i mean this.i suppose Jessica was against George and Shannon if Jessitrice theory is right???wat

>>4405377
lol, yeah, that is Ronove, fabulous bastard.

>>4405388
It just means Piece Beato is all kinds of fucked up.
.....Which is fairly self-evident.

>>4405386
Plus, the fact that she has huge potential, smart as fuck, solves the epitagh several times.

>>4405393
Just wait for an envy show down between piece Beato & Kyrie.

>>4405388
Lecturing Beato about love is the worst possible idea ever

>>4405404
Oh, please, Beato's experiences with love was a 12 year old who played with her for like one day.

She's hardly an expert on the issue.

>>4405409
Mornin Kyrie.

Are you implying Shannon is George's waifu?

>>4405420
Well, she will be.

George is one sly motherfucker.Can someone post that extra TIPS?About how George fall in love with Shannon?

>>4405400
Hm? We already had that, Kyrie ended rather well-done as a result.

>>4405442

I'd like a peaceful and loving depiction of how the romance between me and Shannon started. The scene still hasn't been shown in the original work, after all.
It happened on the day of the traditional family conference. I wonder how many years ago it was. Haha, remembering it makes me feel a bit embarrassed.
That day, I had been wearing a hat. It was blown away by a strong wind and went flying away on the beach.
At that moment, Shannon showed up. We went to go search the beach together for the hat.
We just couldn't find it anywhere, no matter how many times the two of us scoured the beach searching for it.
We never found it. But it would've been boring to just search for it in silence. We conversed with each other the whole time.
That was when...I heard that she longed to go see an aquarium.
By coincidence, I had a friend who was a curator. I arranged it so that just the two of us could specially visit the aquarium on one of the days it was closed.

I apologized to her for two things.
One was that I wouldn't get to show her the crowds of people at the aquarium.
The other was that...I hadn't actually been wearing a hat in the first place. (Kira☆)

>>4405446
JUST AS PLANNED.
George is one sly motherfucker.
Too bad he's not quite sly enough to avoid dying the death.

>>4405446
>One was that I wouldn't get to show her the crowds of people at the aquarium.

Is it because he want to control Shannon and bind her to him like Kinzo with Beatrice?Or is it because Shannon does not exist and just his imagination?

>>4405452
He should have worn a hat then.

George is so sly.

>>4405474
why cap this?what is the significance?why you think George is sly in this scene?

>>4405484
Think he's speculating that George is trying to hide teh truth from Battler.
I doubt that, personally.

>>4405484
Because he's telling Battler to stay away from the conversation.

>>4405446
Funny thing about this TIP? The only normal attendees to the family conference who don't show up are Kanon and Shannon.

Know who else doesn't show up? Beato. Of course, the 1998 crew, Bern, and Erika don't show up either, but it's interesting to point out anyway. Even EVA-Beatrice makes an appearance.

>>4405484
I never thought about the details of the cap though to be honest, i just like to think of George being the only cousin aware of the incoming murder.
But i do find it a little strange that for quite a few conferences George has been forced to sit through them, what makes this different?

>>4405505
Battler was there?How do you know?It is not stated in the TIPS

>>4405521
You must be confused. I am talking about the GM Battler TIP.

Where most of the characters come to Battler to request more screen time and awesome scenes for EP6.

>>4405521
That was an excerpt from:
http://crystalweaver.livejournal.com/96454.html

>>4405537
WHOA
>>4405538
PAGE NOT FOUND FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

>>4405537
Is it an extra tip or a tip from ep6?

>>4405547
Extra TIP released at C77. Give me a second and I'll put it on pastebin.

>>4405557
>>4405547
http://pastebin.com/m20f53652

>>4405562
i wish ingame Battler was like this...god this is awesome.why noone tells me about this before?!

>>4405579
Because the beef of the games is the boring drama. I'd rather have silly shenanigans like this more often.

>>4405594

Oh god I can't stop laughing

despite being a gag, the extra TIPS has rather interesting information about the characters like George especially.

I've just uploaded this TIP to wiki:
http://umineko.wikia.com/wiki/TIPS#Game_master_Battler.27s_tip

Any idea if Cornelia's TIP was fully translated? I only have 3/4 of it.

I want swimsuit Natsuhi to be my lap pillow
I want bunny outfit Eva to cook for me
I want gym uniform Rosa to wash my back

GODDANMM YOU BATTLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEER

>>4405647
Nope, as far as I'm aware

>>4405662
Battler has excellent taste.

>>4405662
...I want to bully Lucifer.

>>4405687

"The six younger sisters are fine~ But I sure owe Lucifer for EP3~ You gouged me so many times with that stake of yours, grinding grinding, grinding grinding grinding! Aah, just remembering it pisses me off!"
"Ahh, in that caaase, I think this time Battler-sama should gouge into Luci-nee instead."
"I think that's a great idea! Until Battler-sama feels satisfied, I think he should bully her all night loong!"
"Wh...What are you guys talking about?! H-Hey, let go of me!"
"Oh, I know, Lucifer-onee-sama. Your back is your weak spot, right...?"
"Wai... L-Levia?! H-How do you know that?!"
"Everyone knows your weak points! You were the only one who thought we didn't know, weren't you?! You're too careless, onee-sama!"
"Hoh-hoh-hoh-hoh, so her back is her weak spot, is it, hoh-hoh-hoh-hoh!"
"St-Stop! Do you think I'll surrender if you do that?! Do you really think I'll cry and beg for forgiveness?!"
"Ah, shut up, shut up! Know my grudge from that day you tortured me by grinding and gouging into me! Is it around here? Around here? Take that, there, there, there!"
"Ahhiiiiiiiiiiiii!"
"Or is it around here?!"
"Ahaaaaa! Noooooo, please forgive me, Battler-samaaaaaaaa, auaaaaaaa!"
He finally got the chance for revenge he never had in the original story. Battler complacently ground against Lucifer's back...

"How do you feel, Battler-sama? Are you refreshed?"
"Yeah, I feel great... My long-standing grudge has been totally cleared up, and I feel all fresh, like I've finally shed my skin!"

Lucifer's shoulders heaved as she caught her breath. She had collapsed with her clothes in disarray, and it looked very much like the aftermath of something.
...It was a bit obscene.

So do I. Oh god so do I.

>>4405630
I like some of the new fanart this TIP produced.

>>4405037
oh fuck, I laughed

>>4405758
I'm scared.

>>4405771
Don't be.

could someone send me the picture of ep2 with maria and the " As if she was waiting for a memory og Beatrice to be revived" please?

>>4405789
Posting Maria knows.jpg in an Umineko thread.

>>4405662

>>4405795
Maria knows all.

>>4405795
Thx a lot bro

>>4405037
>>4405278

Yandere shannon and ronrey jessica compete for most mental character lusting after Battler in umineko, I think both are the case.

Actually, since apparently Battler can't be GM is EP7 because he can't show his family being evil, they all are probably messed up in the head somehow.

>>4405290
But how much caan you blame someone who didn't fully understand the consequences of their actions?
Stupid yes but can you give the person all the blame?
A child that sets a house on fire without even knowing what fire is, can the child take the blame?

>>4406334
he's not even to blame, the year he made the promise, his mother died, his father remarried and he left home

>>4406354
It's not just the fact that he didn't keep his promise, though. He completely forgot it.

Do you know what is the sin?
It isn't because you ate the forbidden fruit.

Do you know what is the sin?
It isn't because you listened to the serpent.

You still don't know what is the sin?
Then, that itself is your sin.

-Frederica Bernkastel

>>4406390
And that's a poem from Higurashi, is it not?

>>4406395
Bern was trolling us all along.

Please tell me what happened in this night.
It's like the cat inside the box.

Please tell me what happened in this night.
You don't know if the cat in the box is dead or alive.

Please tell me what happened in this night.
The cat in the box was dead.

-Frederica Bernkastel

>>4404663
THAT PIC OP

Goddamn, I remember when I found out she wasn't acting Ep3, but everytime else. Umineko is really TROLLS TROLLING TROLLS

>>4406404
Even better.

> The guy who originally did the classification of the seven demons with the seven sins was Peter Binsfeld, a German auxiliary bishop and witch hunter. He was born in the 16th century in the small town of Binsfeld, in the district of Bernkastel-Wittlich. He wrote a book, which was very famous at his time, Hexentraktat, in which he argues that witches do exist and explains how to find, interrogate and execute them.

>>4405939

What if it's delusional kanon taking battler to the homosexual world?

>>4406570

Or delusional Jessica jealous of Shannon for stealing battler's affection and making her dress up as a boy to satisfy her other personality's delusion.

>>4406411
So Umineko is 4chan?

>>4407839
at least the troll is good
4chan trolls are lately just meh

>>4405805
dat wink.seriously.dat wink.

>>4408357
>A wink is an informal mode of communication usually signalling, depending on context, sexual attraction or shared hidden knowledge or intent.

yup

>>4408363
So she's either triggering a FUCKING MOON-CHAN moment or hinting that it's time for Maria to go into the basement with her now.

>>4408363
So Battlers cousin & aunt want him?

>>4408381
Yes. Everyone on the island does in fact.

>>4405141
Gohda's is explained in a side story. He used to work for a hotel, and heard of the pay and seclusion by working for the Ushiromiyas, so he gladly accepted the offer. Doesn't believe in the witch and notes that to Kanon who freaks out (since he had his own personal experience), but had a situation in which he ran into those symbols. He had cleaned up the kitchen and left to later to be called by Genji, with the entire kitchen a complete mess in a short amount of time. From what was known and explained to him, everyone had left the island, save Genji and himself.

That's just a rough summary, though.

>>4408388
Kumasawa?

>>4408404
she offers her breasts to Battler once, remember?

Beatrice=Kyrie=Kasumi=Amakusa=Battler=Ange

I just solved your Umineko

>>4408441
No.

>>4408570
EP1

>>4408441
You have forgot Rudolf.

>>4408593
He has a while till he's Rudolf.