/jp/ - Otaku Culture

i went to ANIME FEST 5 at the local movie theatre and they were playing the spiderman movie where he's black and that was the only movie they played all day. it was $2

>>44029911
Updated DJT guide https://tatsumoto.neocities.org/

raising cane's is overrated by the way

>>44029929
What about Red Lobster?

>>44029929
yeah wait in line 40 minutes and then it's just chicken fingers

i like having BBAs do ツインテール and wear skirts ノーパン

>>44029952
thankfully it wasn't 40 minutes but regardless it still wasn't worth the wait regardless they were probably the most tender fingers i've ever had i got flavor fatigued quickly

>>44029929
FUCK you

>>44030014
raising cane's and a spiderman movie at the anime convention first pal

>>44029937
nothing special it's just like any other chain fast casual restaurant

What's your guys favorite novel you've read in Japanese? I'm looking for something new. My favorite is Kokuhaku by Machida Kou.

Preferably something literary, but I'll accept linnies if they're on the level of Mizuhito Akiyama's stuff.

>>44030167
https://ncode.syosetu.com/n2457fh/

i liked after the quake by murakami but it's actually a collection of short stories. you could always read mishima as well.

>>44030236
I've read the majority of Murakami's stuff in Japanese but I don't really care for his writing style. It has little elegance, especially anything he wrote post-90's. The little style he did have back in the day was mostly jacked from other writers. Even Makoto Shinkai's novels have better writing than Murakami's contemporary stuff. Though I am slightly interested in the plot description of his new book Machi to sono Futashika na Kabe. Any djters read it yet?

>>44030256
Uh, where do you think we are?

こんばんは！！

>>44030256
after the quake is a collection of stories from the 90s but if you're going to be a little queer like that i don't really care to talk to you

>>44030256
>can read Murakami novels
>is shitposting on 4chan
why are you not already living in Japan and banging your Japanese wife? What makes 4chan so much more preferable to Japanese sites?

don't gotta talk to japanese people here

ive creampied a jap before ask me anything

i've got a feeling that i'm going to learn a lot from jigokuraku.
time to finally download mpvacious to make cards from subs.

Did you call him again or was it a one time thing?

>>44030390
it was a biological woman

got your mom on speed dial

i watched jigokuraku in english because i watched it with friends and idk it's full of archaic religious terminology that you will probably never see again

>>44030359
>>44030323
I don't understand? Murakami isn't particularly difficult to read at all, it's just standard contemporary Japanese and vocabulary wise it doesn't even approach a writer like Hirano Keiichiro or Machida Kou. Stuff like jidaigeki by Shiba Ryotaro / Endou Shousaku or famous writers from the Meiji/Taisho era like Izumi Kyoua, now that is difficult to read.

So if you don't read novels what do you read? Nothing but manga and VNs? I like to read Golgo 13 everyone once in a while but if you read nothing but manga your reading comprehension is obviously never going to go up past high school level.

>why are you not already living in Japan and banging your Japanese wife? What makes 4chan so much more preferable to Japanese sites?

I've barely even spoken to a young Japanese girl before, my only speaking experience is with Oba-sans, Obaa-sans, Ojii-sans, and Nii-sans.

i don't even read novels in english i'm a meathead

>>44030425
murakami is not even normal japanese he writes it to sound like english translated to japanese because he is fucking autistic
風の歌を聴け is cool af tho
also obasans are sexable you know

meet my meathead *unzips*

>>44030442
If you've ever read Norwegian Wood in Japanese you can tell the unnaturalness of some of his Japanese just by how much Murakami uses Boku in his sentences even when it's not even needed. You can tell he was trying to imitate the English "I" but in Japanese

Actually Souseki Natsume does a little bit of this too in some of his novels so this has been going for a long time in Jap literature

>>44030461
norwegian wood was ok i guess
i like 海辺のカフカ and 風の歌 by far the most though
the former has some good blood related obashota too

stouffers baked white mac n cheese in the oven

Does anyone know some ecchi anime with japanese subs?

does anyone know if there's a dataset or something containing the most common words used on jp twatter? I want to make an Anki deck based on that. I searched on Kaggle and Huggingface, couldn't find anything except some datasets that only contain the tweet IDs, which defeats the point.
I was thinking of trying to do it myself, but with Musk's recent API changes it'll probably be too expensive

>>44030481
disappointing

Is it cringe to learn to speak with a certain dialect?

you will always have some dialect, even if it's the Tokyo dialect
the idea that some dialects are preferrable to others is what's cringe, its modern form can propably be traced to the Fr*nch revolution
especially since I assume you aren't staking business prospects or whatever on it
also, you know, you have to go back and all that

>>44030739
>>44030762
Stop learning tsugaruben.

I read exactly 10k characters today :)

>>44030423
i feel like i might encounter this stuff in other fantasy works or maybe jrpgs.
i might watch the episode with eng subs first, and then go back and rewatch with japanese subs to catch words new to me, and then extract the audio and listen to it while doing chores to really get those new words stuck in my memory.

personally i subscribe to gaikoku-ben

>>44030784
>oh man guys i can't wait to learn japanese
>uh let me just turn on the english subs for a little while

>>44030401
poor guy in desperate need of a dub after this morning's shameful display lol

>>44030814
thats not what your mom said

>>44030762
for me its hyoujungo which is not the same as the tokyo dialect

>>44030835
brooo friendly fire

I haven't seen any new words for 2 days wtf

if you are going to bed and someone says oyasuminasai but they aren't going to bed what do you say back to them

>>44030880
this is your brain on translations
you oyasumi if you are going to bed

nothing friendly about my viper dong

>>44030897
wrong

>>44030739
If you do it on purpose it's cringe.
If you just happened to live in a certain area or maybe have a close friend with that dialect who helped you learn then maybe it's not cringe.

>>44030903
ive spoken to loads of japanese women before they go to bed and they say oyasumi even though im not going to bed and they know it

do you actually try to remember laws relating pairs of transitive and intransitive verbs?
do you remember which is which for each pair or infer it from context (the presence/absence of an object)?
despite the grammatical designation I've found that some of the """transitive""" ones sometimes omit an object and vice versa
you have this http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/~bblum/Origin_of_transitive-intransitive_verb_p.pdf, but it seems pretty convoluted at first glance

>>44030809
>i can't wait
why would i be in a rush?
what a stupid thing to say. you need to find a balance to avoid burnout. it's not i don't have other activities that i do to improve my japanese, like reading linnies and listening to audio drama.

>>44030860
生体解剖

>>44030814
lol fail

>>44030936
the only thing you need to learn words is sentences they're used in. You don't even need to try to remember the difference between nouns and verbs

>>44030939
>balance
>burnout
holy cope batman

>>44030955
https://vocaroo.com/1oBrhlNsuoCc

I can't tell if you're being serious, but no I don't have to try to remember that because it's obvious from the form of the word

>>44030936
I don't even remember any of the "laws" in my native language, I'm not gonna remember grammar rules in Japanese

people in this thread really need to watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1LRoKQzb9U

im better than you will ever be at japanese and i just spend my time watching vids like this in between all the speaking japanese ofc
https://youtu.be/zOXwhMSzPPM

>facetious
yeah I'm out

>>44030976
dumb bitch in the front adjusting her hair after seeing she's part of the recording lol women are pathetic

>>44030959
cope i'm not an autistic robot who can stand relying on a dictionary for 100% of things in which i am trying to find entertainment?
you're either just getting started with japanese or you've already made it and forgotten how much of a pain in the ass it was.

Do disused kana like ゐ show up in manga and VNs? Seems like a chuuni thing to do

>>44030992
yeah once in a while. havent seen any hentaigana yet tho

poor guy really can't feel out the context for facetious

>>44030989
>you're either just getting started with japanese
kek
i love how that's one of your thoughts to someone laughing at your use of english subs

they show up in Ainu, the trve people of Japan

>>44030992
ゑ is probably the one u see the most

>>44030423
> he thinks that 丹田 isn't in half of all shounens

repeating in this thread
>>44027262
as this anon said >>44027288 it's the green button on the code <> of the repository https://github.com/itazuraneko/itazuraneko, but not the <> button as you are already there
the code is in html, css and javascript. Code is a generic term for what a programm is made with. Then after downloding you open it with a browser of your choice that can also the site's javascript but almost all modern browers and their old (to a sertain point) versions can.

>>44030994
あたしのでばんかな

それは変態仮名じゃなくて

旧仮名だよ

>>44031009
you need to work on your reading skills anon. i said that you do see the outdated hiragana sometimes, but never hentaigana

>>44031009
(￣▽￣)

>(The last font above is difficult and you may want to skip it as a beginner.)
Actually, that just looks like my handwriting

>>44031020
>>(The last font above is difficult and you may want to skip it as a beginner.)
something so funny about that

>>44031009
>あたし
Why do you write like this?

trans

literally dont think ive ever seen an imoto post that is actually helpful

uwaaa my bait post that i made last thread before i went to sleep got lots of people worked up
makes me feel all warm and tingly

Vinnie yomenai

>>44031063
if you are just pretending to be stupid and annoying you are still stupid and annoying and lonely lol get a gf fag

is there an automated sub retimer script that works on linux

uwaa another asshurt replier

My writing speed is much lower than my reading speed. Interesting how the brain works.

>>44030936
The only pairs you have to worry about are ones where u becomes eru or vice versa. Everything else is unambiguous, I think.

>>44031094
https://tatsumoto-ren.github.io/blog/retiming-subtitles.html
alternatively if you're already going to figure out the correct timing just adjust it real-time in MPV or make whatever you want yourself NIGGA that's the whole point of Unix

You know, Tatsumoto will never be able to compete against the DJT method.

That's because nobody has learned from his method.

DJT has Doth, Jazzy, Hmslc, and Kanji Eater

Who does Tatsuomoto have?

methodology fags will never make it, only us raw motivation chads

What's the officially recognized DJT method

the only method that works is 4bc's super secret method donut stel that you will never get

>>44031141
>DJT has Doth, Jazzy, Hmslc, and Kanji Eater
literal nonames and eternal dekainais
>Tatsumoto will never be able to compete against the DJT method.
You make no sense because Tatsumoto is the DJT method. Tatsumoto is the updated DJT guide.

motivation is also gay its about natural 環境
japanese is the means not the end

>>44031146
Glancing at the cards due on your taskbar and then opening up 4chin instead of anki.

>>44031146
>What's the officially recognized DJT method
https://tatsumoto.neocities.org/

>>44031146
Read what interests you and read more

ト゚

>>44031152
looks like i'm gmi

For the past month I've been doing Heisig but instead of learning the meaning that Heisig associates with a character, I've been memorizing the JLPT words associated with them (skipping words that include other Kanji which I haven't gotten to yet). 3 kanji per weekday, 9 sat/sunday for 33 kanji + associated vocab/week, grammar on weekends. Instead of Anki I use a different app that lets me create hand-drawn flashcards with SRT.

Instead of doing it this way am I better off doing WaniKani since it's pretty much the same thing, just without Heisig's grouping? It's kind of annoying constantly running into words during my grammar studies that I can't read yet, and I don't necessarily know if it's a good idea to learn these words on their own outside of Heisig.

name an easier kanji to remember than 凹

>>44031171
口

what's your excuse, djt?

>>44031168
yeah you seem like the kind of guy that should do wanikani

>>44031178
>wanikani
DJT doesn't recommend it.
see https://tatsumoto.neocities.org/blog/what-are-the-downsides-of-using-wanikani

>>44031171
I'd say 田 but...

>>44031174
The kanas can be learned in a couple of hours.

>>44031174
I'm not cute or funny

>>44031171
日

>>44031180
i am above both djt and goat fucker

and above all you will find me

事情　情事
japanese is impossible

is there some sort of software or even just anki deck for vocabulary that uses a "structuralist" approach?
what I mean is it shouldn't reference E*glish but instead the internal relations of the language, it eg. gives you a Japanese word and asks for a Japanese antonym/synonym, or maybe describes the answer in Japanese
normally I'd make something like this myself but this in particular seems like a pain in the ass considering no prior structural data to rely on

yeah jalup but it's shit
anacreon posted the anki decks once

amazing how frequently this happens every night to white guys visiting tokyo

>>44031224
thanks anon, but I just realized I can probably make a deck like this using a J-J dictionary
let me go see if there are any good candidates

oh wait that's what you were asking for for some reason i though you were asking for something more complicated when you said structuralist
yeah a j-j would work, i use 大辞林 and 明鏡 i got them from the moeway googledrive

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uZlp_6mOy4
これは生スバル

>>44031214
i have NEVER seen a jouji in my life, NIGGA

>>44031307
it's literally n3

>>44031312
show me where you encountered 情事 nikka

>>44031328

>>44031334
oh some pretentious VN
not gonna need that one in the 語彙

>>44031336
it's a normal linny for retards bro, stop coping.

>>44031135
don't call me the n word i don't appreciate it

don't wanna learn japanese today i just wanna shitpost on dlt and play games

>>44031307
now you have

I’m better than everyone in this thread because I dropped my Japanese lessons.
Get on my level scrubs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uf3a63J2A9I

Is there N2-N1 content on youtube?

n levels are making you an idiot

>>44031338
ok but ぶっちゃけさ i have never seen a 情事 and i would probably misread that as 事情 anyway and it makes sense that way too so who cares?

>>44031389
you just haven't read enough yet, you'll get there

>>44031391
ふざけんな

>>44031374
No everything after n3 is made up to sell more tests

hiragana excites me in a asexual way its like the loli version of japanese

damn guess we gotta make it illegal then

例えば if we were comparing our 日本語力 in terms of セックス i would 孕ませてやる

my cousin left her husband and children to be with my other cousin who is addicted to crack

>>44031454
now say that in ニッポン語

dont believe their lies. there are no little cuties waiting for you in the workplace. only bitter vindictive hags who will use you as a stepping stone at any given opportunity. fucking cherish your neet life as long as you can

why does every doujin artist use different sound effects for sucking chinko? I think we need to standardize the sounds

>>44031463
ジャパニーズジョーク?

>>44031480
>>44031475
oops

>>44031303
why does she look like Pinocchio

>>44029911

ユニcute magical dreamy pure fairyy games

https://youtube.com/watch?v=5hCtz43vsP8

y^
https://youtu.be/3qZXPJ7O5TU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5-Wpwn1iJU
https://youtu.be/xJQ_LhcOGVU
ユニMy YY castle^ in Russia ^
^

>>44031455
私のいとこは夫と子供を捨てて、クラック中毒のいとこと一緒になりました

>>44028995
quizler never liked vinnies thoughbeit

>>44031645
>there is some moments
c2 moment

Just completed kana. Now where the fuck do I start with grammar and kanji? I've never fucked with anki, and don't know any trusted decks for beginners. What are some good decks or video courses for someone who doesn't know any Japanese grammar/kanji

>>44031716
duolingo is pretty good

>>44031716
>Now where the fuck do I start with grammar and kanji?
https://tatsumoto.neocities.org/blog/learning-kanji
https://tatsumoto.neocities.org/blog/learning-grammar

>>44031716
Hello, everyone.
My name is Cure Dolly and I am here to teach you Organic Japanese.
What is Organic Japanese?
It is Japanese pure and simple, with no harmful additives.
Japanese is the simplest, the most logical, the most easily understandable language
I have ever encountered – much easier than Western languages.
But you wouldn't know that if you try to learn it from Western textbooks or Japanese learning websites.
Why not?
Because they don't teach Japanese structure.
They teach English structure and then try to force Japanese into it.
And it doesn't fit, and it doesn't work very well.
That is the main reason, I think, why so many people give up Japanese.
The Western system makes it seem complicated, full of strange exceptions and odd rules that you have to memorize.
And none of this is true if you learn the language the way it really is.
So, this course is not just for people beginning Japanese.
It's very good for those people – this is the best way to start.
All right, let's get started.
The most basic thing about Japanese is the Japanese core sentence.
Every Japanese sentence is fundamentally the same.
It has the same core.
What does it look like?
It looks like this.
We're going to picture it as a train.
The engine is what makes the sentence move, what makes it work.
The carriage has to be there because without the carriage there's nothing for the engine to move.
Those two things are the core of every Japanese sentence.
And if you can understand this, you can understand every sentence,
no matter how complicated it becomes.
Later on we'll have a lot more carriages.
We can say more about A; we can say more about B; we can combine logical sentences together
to make complex sentences.
But every Japanese sentence conforms to this basic type.
So, what are A and B?
Let's begin by reminding ourselves that in any language
whatever there are only two kinds of sentence.
And they are A is B sentences and A does B sentences.
So an A does B sentence is "Sakura walks".
An A is B sentence is "Sakura is Japanese".
And we can put these into the past tense; we can put them in the negative; we can turn
them into questions; we can say more about A; we can say more about B. But, ultimately,
So let's look at how we do this in Japanese.
the main carriage, and B is walks, the thing she does, the engine of the sentence.
Walk in Japanese is "aruku".
And we need one more thing to make the core Japanese sentence.
And that is the linchpin of every sentence, and it's が (ga).
Now I want you to make friends with ga, because this is the center of Japanese grammar.
Every Japanese sentence revolves around ga.
And the first part of the reason that Japanese gets so confusing the way it's taught in the textbooks
is that they don't properly explain this.
In some sentences we're not going to be able to see the ga, but it's always there, and
it's always doing the same job.
That may sound a little complicated, but it isn't.
It's very simple, and I'm going to explain that in the next lesson.
For now, let's just stick with the very simplest kind of sentence.
So here is ga.
It looks like a post with a big hook on it, doesn't it?
It links together A and B and turns them into a sentence.
or, as we say, "Sakura is a Japanese person".
So, A again is Sakura, B is Nihonjin, which means Japanese person, and once again we need
ga to link them together.
So we're going to picture the A car, the main carriage, with a ga on it, because the main
carriage, the subject of the sentence, aways carries a ga, to link it to the engine.
So, Sakura ga Nihonjin – and we need one more thing.
There's one other thing that I want you to make friends with, and that's だ (da).
Now, you may have met this da in its fancy form, desu, but there are very good reasons
for learning the plain, simple form first.
So we're going to learn da.
Now if you look at da, it's like an equals sign boxed off to the left.
And this is a perfect mnemonic for what it does, because da tells us that A is B.
Why is it boxed off to the left?
Because it only works one way.
Sakura is a Japanese person, but a Japanese person is not necessarily Sakura.
So now we have an A is B sentence and an A does B sentence.
There is one more form of the Japanese core sentence, for it has three forms.
The third form is when we have a describing word, an adjective.
Now, we don't have to learn all these, but we do need to know about Japanese adjectives
ending in i because they make the third kind of sentence.
"pen ga akai" – "pen is red".
Now, you notice that we don't have a da on this sentence.
Why is that?
Because the i-adjective akai (red) – it doesn't mean red, it means is-red.
The da function, the equals function, is built into those i-adjectives.
So those are the three forms of Japanese sentence.
They all start with the subject of the sentence, they're all connected with ga, and they can
because the last word is an adjective.

>>44031733
stop your crippling me please
im even forgetting the english

>>44031733
rip

Thoughts on moving to Japan as a software engineer?
Should you do it? Would you do it?

>software engineer?
cringe

I'm going there to be a mangaka

It's better than being an english teacher

科学 化学
the bitch accent is the same
how does spoken japanese function as a language

>>44031733
Thanks for raising awareness of this situation anon.

>>44031862
激務だよ

サイヤ人しかなれない

>>44031898
I'll give you a hint, they're the same.

>>44031813
Japan's software is old, but you get paid more or less well, but you get paid better in any other developed country anyway.

>>44031908
Science is not the same as chemistry

>>44031911
Yeah but you get to live in Japan!

>>44018243
>my japanese is still better than all of djt
>>44030982
>im better than you will ever be at japanese
the hubris lol shut the fuck up trash

>>44031914
Yeah, no duh. 僕 isn't the same as 俺 either, but they're both "I" in English.

>>44031923
Who cares about English, we are talking about Japanese.

>>44031925
I hate Japanese.

>>44031914
False.

is there a Japanese equivalent for Zizek?
I can listen to that retard ramble for hours, if it was moonspeak it might make for good immersion

Here Koyo will regret giving all blades to Rex.

>>44031923
wouldn't it be funny if English had gendered first person pronouns I wonder what effect that would have on trannies

>>44032140
The effect would be them using the one they claim, obviously. Not sure why that's cause for wonder.

>>44032148
True, it's technically already happening with the あたし poster.

Why you learn Japanese?

>>44032148
I meant like beyond that, eg. if they slipped up and used the wrong one would that cause a mental breakdown, or if you would have "genderfluids" who would consciously try alternate pronouns in a single conversation etc.

>>44032140
That's just the whole he/him pronoun thing all over again innit, just add another word

>>44032166
ZOOWIE MAMA HONK HONK HUMMANNA HUMMANNA BOIOIOIOING

immersion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4M1CtvNbxE

>>44032166
vsluts

Are you still a roricon if you aren't a connesuer and love all roris?

lol bro it would be funny if english had gendered first person pronouns like what would the trannies do lol and the genderfluids do lol like they'd have a meltdown everytime they misused it haha that would be so funny man

true, true
it would also be interesting if English had more instances of language clearly tied to the speaker's gender, that was a totally alien concept when I first started learning

stfu retard

:(

Wouldn't it be funny if I made it past N5 haha...

>>44032166
I'm really into J-Rock, especially Visual Kei. Buck-Tick was my gateway drug. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5_mK0k_Pks

>>44030696
thanks djt, very helpful as always

>>44032241
nice, there are femanons in the thread!

>>44032250
why can't you just learn jp normally you fat fucking retard
all the time these copes of "oh these are newspaper words" "oh anime isn't indicative of the spoken language" "oh this is specialized vocab i'll never see it again" it's all the same fucking language and if you can only understand it under certain contexts then you don't know it
learn all of it
fuck off

>>44030696
>>44032250
The reason I initially didn't reply to your post is because fulfilling your request will not help you learn Japanese. You need to focus on immersion and sentence mining to make it to fluency.
1) Read >>44029926
2) Do the first subdeck of Ankidrone Starter Pack. It contains common words you actually need.
3) Start mining.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DarUu9s7ZI8

why are women like this?

>>44032259
I'm only learning the hentai doujin words and you can't stop me.

>>44032440
actually fairly based

obasan angels all around me

>>44032259
Extremely based.

Can anyone explain how to browse 2chan?
I haven't been able to work out which site is the real 2chan, and how to find controversial boards.
On the sites I've visited, the interface doesn't make a lot of sense.

brb uploading 3000 kanji to the cloud so i can dowload them to my brain

>only 3000

TELL ME ABOUT THE ANIME POSTER
WHY DOES HE WEAR THE MASK

>>44029926
that's the downgraded guide
>>44031094
mpv
>Ctrl+Shift+Left and Ctrl+Shift+Right
>Adjust subtitle delay so that the next or previous subtitle is displayed now. This is especially useful to sync subtitles to audio.
>z and Z
>Adjust subtitle delay by +/- 0.1 seconds. The x key does the same as Z currently, but use is discouraged.
>>44032000
no, this brand of retardation could only ever be created by mixing slav, german and french ingredients

https://streamable.com/mqf473
ｌｍふぁお

now this is good anime writing

time to viscerally terrify the poster who doesn't like weirdos again

>>44033007

hes says it for our own good. hes a good cute little anon

>>44030976
currently in part 4, and while interesting to see an expert confirm this stuff, it's pretty much "yeah immersion is legit", "classroom education sucks" and "output isn't the same as shitty textbook practice" so far. Does it reveal any other illuminating points later on? seems like most DJT weebs are already aware of this

>>44033064
It's as authoritative as an astrology expert.

don't like cute anons and don't like good anons. be a mean ugly bastard.

loser loser~<3

>>44033225
what a babe

>>44033170
how so? I looked him up and he's a professor and linguistics researcher. I'd say that's as authoritative as it gets for this stuff. Is linguistics a bullshit field like psychology?

more authoritative than matt? yea i dont think so

"na adjective" is such an idiotic term

きのう

めっちゃはしった

しぬすんぜんまではしりました

体重はぜんぜんへりません

>>44033437
adjectival noun is much better, that's really what they are, nouns that also work as adjectives

>>44033437
agreed, but not as bad as adjectival noun

imagine falling in love with an online scam artist

they're called 形容動詞 to be actual

i don't know japanese but is it really that hard where people can't figure out if a word is an adjective noun or verb?

https://streamable.com/8t0ezu

yoooooooooooooosh new sureddo new ore

>>44033458
keep at it and watch what you eat

>>44033064
ok I just finished all of it, and the TLDW is acquisition is all about input and real output. Passing aptitude tests and learning rules is completely separate from how the brain absorbs a new language. Input in different contexts is by far the most important thing. So yeah, like most anons here already know - focus on vocab, immersion and communication.

that said, djt does often ignore that last part, I'm guessing cause almost no one here plans on living in Japan nor becoming fully fluent tier.

It's basically implied that immersion heavy approaches like ajatt don't just work, they're the ONLY method that truly works. And it takes a shitload of time. Some people learn faster and slower than others, and some concepts are more or less intuitive than over (independent of your native language), but it still takes time. I'm not sure if this has any implications on sentence mining, except maybe mine multiple sentences that teach the same thing, even if they're redundant. You need the same shit in different contexts to truly acquire it. One other thing that may be important is inflections, he doesn't say it explicitly but if my understanding is correct, for a while you probably won't be able to come up with inflections in real time until you've been exposed to them, EVEN if you know all the rules.

even after all this, I'm still skeptical that listening to jap content for hours will magically make me understand it like AJATT, Refold and the others say, but it definitely puts my worries about grammar to rest.

>>44030982
ugly mullet, gay nose ring, covered in tattoos
guy is desperate to be unique, but if you remove all of that he literally has the most plain NPC normie face lole

>>44031645
bro was doomed from the start

>>44031645
i feel the same

>>44031645
lil bro doesnt even know what まじない means...
isn't he the king of djt?

>>44034264
quiz was never a candidate for that position

gonna move to japan and be a detective or a fireman

>>44034411
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9r-PvX8cPJ8
become a 超探偵

おはようございます！！

>>44031813
it's a tough one, you can either
>paid peanuts compared to any other country
>being not just overworked, but bullied by your boss is the norm (this one doesn't get as much media attention cause it goes against the muh honoru narrative)
>You are required to kiss your superior's ass daily
>everyone is old and dying
>their economy has been heading into a cliff since the 90s, all they did was slow it down, and by the time you get to live there the bandaid will finally be ripped off
>90% of the available work is webshit but even worse, for shitty ancient sites
>an earthquake or tsunami or gigatyphoon or Godzilla could kill you any second
>if you're really lucky, a sexy yellow woman may want to marry you to take advantage of you, and then do a silly NTR while you're at work
>but you get to live in Japan!
or
>work literally anywhere else, the US if you can
>grind leetcode and target big tech or HFTs or defense or a bunch of others
>be overpaid and respected for bullshit work, half of of which a chatbot and autocomplete can do for you
>retire at 30 if you play your cards right
>able to move to Japan if you feel like it
it's really hard to choose, just follow your heart bro!

>>44033846
にほんのなつに

たべずにいると

たおれるですよ

>>44033868
>that said, djt does often ignore that last part
all the ESLs here are doing communication to improve their eigo
>I'm still skeptical that listening to jap content for hours will magically make me understand it
it will if the input is already partially comprehensible. it won't if it's 100% white noise. if it's 99% white noise, then you'll still learn but extremely slowly until you slowly build up to more comprehension.

>>44034411
souseki was right about detectives
>>44024776
>およそ世の中に何が賤しい家業だと云って探偵と高利貸ほど下等な職はないと思っている。

4chan ruined me.

How do you guys remember grammar fast and effectively? When learning a new character, I write it 50 times, so should I just do that but write the word next to an example picture of the Japanese word describing it?

>>44033653
what form is momasete/momaseru?

>>44034696
just read...

>>44034589
just lay off the unagidon

stop consuming japanese or there isn't going to be any left for me

にほん
の
なつ
に

たべず
に
いる
と

たおれ
る
です
よ

>>44034788
nobody said dont eat anything? chill

just realized after aoi-chan teaches kokona-chan to say arigatou instead of sumimasen she always uses arigatou instead

>>44034744
うなぎ

あれは金持ちがたべるものです

you can't limit your food intake because it's summer but you can run until you're about to die?

>>44034864
boring list

women logic

i can't stop farting

>>44034864
me writing the names of every djt poster

>>44034728
causative + te

...in my Death Note!

>>44033653
he's literally me

>>44035013
what about him >>44032990

>>44032990
source

>>44034990
so he's saying "then let me touch your breasts"! xD
here's how i understood the dialogue! from memory as i watched it about an hour ago

"english has started to become my special day. It's (thanks to) Akagi-san's help"
"then let me touch your breasts"

super funny stuff xD have a great day everyone!

>>44035205
specialty* gomen gomen

Why are there people claiming that Cure Dolly will cripple you?

>>44035205
>>44035234
>"english has started to become my special day.
you're missing some important words that describe ambiguity and probability
i'd say something like "it kind of feels like english may have just become my speciality"

>>44035250
the dolls are cursed and break your knees if you make a grammar mistake after watching

>>44035250
technically tatsumoto doesn't have human rights

>>44035260
thank you my friend, upon reviewing the footage, i had forgotten the use of なんか and かも. this was a blunder on my part, but one that you never once hesitated to help me through. it kind of feels like japanese may have just become my specialty. may God bless you friend

>>44035274
And that's a good thing!

>>44034493
Why do people here always make it look as if living in Japan was hell? You realize there are over a 100 million people living there right?
Or are they just trying to gatekeep gaijins?

>>44032990
>>44032990
might pick this up after watching these
read the manga but it was so long ago, forgot how much I enjoyed it and the adaptation looks quite nice

>>44035303
there are thousands of people living in mud trenches in Ukraine, so what

living in any country is hell. id go live on an island but i need internet to chat with my djt bros

>>44035319
>adaptation looks quite nice
only 10 minute episodes though

>>44033350
Linguistics is a real field describing an actual thing and produces useful stuff.
Language acquisition is psycholinguistics, a different field. And yes, it's bullshit.

>>44035338
sounds about right for the type of series it is, no problems there

not enough エッチ anime this season

>>44035368
there's only tenpuru, that's it

prease come to japan gaijin, your wage檻 is awaiting you

>>44033868
>real output
>communication
over for djt

>>44035451
https://streamable.com/l0k9q4

we've known about this for years

>>44035397
不徳のギルドや

レビュワーズとくらべて

ぜんぜん弱い感じはする

というか愛もないし美しくない

５／１００あればいいほうだとおもう

i'll probably make french toast and coffee

>>44035407
Just be better than average
It's not that difficult right?

>>44035551
if you're that good, you can make more money in the US or in EU except also without all the bullshit that comes from being a complete outsider in a bugman culture

>>44035250
the only ones who claim that are already so perma crippled by textbooks they can't understand why she's right

>>44035407
who cares, money is fake anyways

>>44029911
>https://djtguide.neocities.org/
I downloaded the repo from https://github.com/itazuraneko/itazuraneko back in the day. Is there anything important in the djtguide that the (unmaintained) itazuraneko repository doesn't have?

>>44035407
as is always the case with these sorts of things. yeah, sure... now compare to usa

everything i want is available right here in bumfuck nowhere midwest america. in fact i'm already a software engineer here. idk why i would want to start completely over in a different country just because i like their cartoons

>>44035451
djt has been telling you to get a jk gf by any means possible for the sake of hard outputting sessions, and you just won't listen.

Sadly the only people that are happier living in Japan are poor third world immigrants from countries like India, Pakistan or Philippines
So if that's your case then yeah feel free to go, it's not like Japan is a racist country after all

if i had a jk gf id be outputting a lot more than words if you know what i mean

i don't wanna live in japan
but i do wanna fuck some 田舎 babes who've never been to a real city

>>44033868
ajatters are legit retards
like the other guy said your input needs to be somewhat comprehensible, pure white noise won't get you anywhere

i met a nigcel matt fanboy last year who claimed he was gonna learn grammar without looking it up by just whitenoising anime, dumb retard gave up after a month lol... i can probably find screenshots of him passionately arguing about pitch accent and shit on discord, even though he doesnt know jap... fucking ajatters lol

got all my grammar from reading
passed n1
any further copes?

>n1
lmfao

readers mogging listeners again... brutal

>>44035793
lets hear more about that on a stream

>>44035799
i dont think the groups are exclusive

wish reading and listening were both possible within the same lifetime
sigh

reading is useless doe

why would you learn japanese if not for living in japan

>>44035826
99% of djt is permastuck on the kruger noob phase where reading is of use

>>44035770
why would she use sosoi here instead of sosogi?

so sad jamal didn't go through a reading phase to graduate from and is stuck as a pre-beginner

>>44035648
Oh, it's a fork. I just did a git pull and everything worked fine.

ye he skipped the kachite phase entirely good on him

in my car was going to go pick up some steak from the grocer after church but now it’s pouring out and i didn’t bring an umbrella so wendy’s it is for lunch

>Studied 143 cards in 7 minutes today
did my reps...

bros what do i do if i wanna consume a book that has no audiobook version?
text to speech?

did you check youtube for readalongs?

>>44029911
>https://djtguide.github.io/library/game/snes.html
All these links are dead.

>>44036026
pay someone on fiver to read it to you

>>44036098
archive.org has all that shit.

crazy how all you need to do is literally just read but djt cant even do that...

true and true!

>>44035286
heh
and here i was about to just reply "wrong" before deciding to be nice

>>44035545
できて、写真を取ったんだけど、迷惑をかけたくないので、掲載しません。

>>44036098
it is funny to play something like axelay with the intention of learning japanese lol

>>44036285
why would it be a bother

at my lowest point i jizzed in egg whites while making meringue

i hope you didn't feed those to anybody

>>44036314
i leave all my junk mail on my kitchen table and just eat in the spot where i don't put junk mail, so i thought maybe that would make djt posters upset

>>44036324
cute!

>>44036357
sodomite

Finished learning all the hiragana. I should be fluent by the end of the year.

>>44036429
both kanji and osaka dialects?

there's more than two kanji

>>44036429
if it took you more than a day ihave bad news for you

incorrect, there are exactly two kanji
kanji i know
kanji i will know

i learned kana over the course of a semester in college. every week we learned 5 and we learned them by writing each one 50 times

those are categories, but i like your attitude!

FIFTY FUCKING TIMES
IN YOUR FUCKING NOTEBOOK
YOU BITCH
the realization that namasensei knows less japanese than nuke was truly heartbreaking
never meet your heroes i guess

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pVLkIjcs1I

just learned that redditors put sentences on the front of their cards...
lol... just lol

even wanikani isnt that dumb

yosh. going to leave djt for about 2 months for a training arc. gonna be perapera as fuck when i return. try not to miss me too much bros

>>44036609
>training arc
hope you attain the 悟り

>>44036635
i cannot believe people say this is an ugly character design

>>44036591
joke's on you the smartest djters are putting sentences on the front of their cards

they ask huke who is notorious for desaturated and dark color palettes to make a colorful phoenix of course it’s gonna look bad

it doesn't look bad!!!! why do you say this to me

>>44036670
nuke puts sentences on the front of his cards too

>>44036687
yeah he got that part right shame he's fucking up everything else

matt won

unf unf unf ugh aah ah ahh

hooded sweatshirt on, basement entered. now ret us review a za furasshu

>>44036719
stoppp

>>44036687
nuke is the most based and transcendent existence to ever grace the japanese learning community and don't you forget it.

>>44036719
Me after climbing half a floor of stairs.

>>44035407
yes.. but

nuke is so based i truly wish we could have another nuke in our community

>language immersion scene in 実は俺、最強でした
immersion learning bros... are we fiction??

These links are still live, at least for now:
https://boroboro.neocities.org/

>>44036744
delusion

what he's doing is really inappropriate

the dictionary says 取り逃がす is read とりにがす but in my anime sazanka-chan says it とりのがす which is also how i originally read it

>>44037041
post the clip

>>44037060
sorry it's asagao-chan who says it
https://vocaroo.com/1lt6Ph2YdtyL

>>44029911
Anyone know any good android E-reader app that has a japanese dictionary?

ttu ttu reader with kiwi browser and yomichan

i'm thinking maybe asagao's voice actor just mistakenly read it the same way i did and nobody noticed or cared enough to redo the line

did agf acquire japanese yet?

>>44037168
I need an offline reader, one that is in the appstore preferably

>>44037215
open it in kiwi, open kiwi menu, tap "Add to Home screen". then it should work offline too (it loads but I didn't test if opening books works because I don't have any on my phone)

>>44036755
we need another nuke marine to go to japan

>>44037297
we need another nuke to go to japan

>>44036966
インポ野郎

>>44037102
the va didn't learn japanese properly because she read too much

yoshi

>>44036702
https://streamable.com/pchpxu

>>44037327
you're only saying that because of what you read in a dictionary. the va felt it out in speech.

>>44037041
のがす is more natural

>>44037533
ydkj

>>44037572
if you think にがす is more natural in abstract situations you should go back to r*ddit

>>44037578
>in abstract situations
lmfao

負けを覚悟の戦いか

So i'm confused with this? I know that Pre -masu forms can be used as verbs but how is the の being used here? And what's going on in this sentence?

ydkjaywnlj

>>44037327
if she read too much she would realize that the ga okurigana would mean nigasu and not nogasu, that doesn't take the okurigana

Do you guys have a Japanese market, restaurant, or other business near you and speak Japanese with the staff?
I have a Japanese market about 20 minutes from my place. Haven't been there yet. I think I'll make it a goal to have a small conversation in Japanese in a few months.

>>44037591
負けを覚悟
の戦い

>>44037533
embarassing post

>>44037603
transitive verbs can take が dekinai kun

>>44037604
I don't talk to people

>>44037590
>>44037615
https://ja.hinative.com/questions/225512
sasuga noobs

not gonna read doe

>>44037627
hilarious
we're talking about 取り逃がす
とりのがす literally does not exist
go back to pre-school

>>44037636
because you're crippled lmao

self own thoughever

>>44037640
yes room temperature iq anon i already saw the dekinais pointing to their dictionaries and self-owning but this is about what sounds more logical

>>44037640
then why does ime suggest 取り逃す when I type とりのがす

common w for me
crazy how ive never lost a battle on djt

>>44037651
if language had to be logical japanese wouldn't exist

reader dictionary cucks cant stop losing

>>44037617
how about you look up okurigana and wipe that egg off your face.

>>44037666
nice cope but you've been owned because that's not relevant to what i said

>>44037652
逃す＝のがす
逃がす＝にがす
look up this word you stupid motherfuckers -> 送り仮名。

>>44037693
you think japanese people don't make mistakes with okurigana?

>>44037700
they do and it's exactly what you called it
>mistakes

とりのがす has thousands of hits don't care what the retarded non-learners in the thread think

not the google cope...

japs modify phrases and compounds all the time you turbo tards

トイレにビデを付けましたら、うんこをしますと尻を洗います。よく三十分ぐらい後また洗います。無事は最も重要です。

>>44037760
that doesn't mean everything goes

>>44037779
1 native's usage > 1000000 djt dekinai calling it wrong
and thousands of natives have used it

また日本語で話していた夢を見た

will be getting a new emmersion station soon...
winning so bigly

a professional va would notice unnatural japanese while recording it....

>>44037825
素敵だね?

とりにがす sounds dumb

>>44037806
so when an american is using "would of" it suddenly becomes proper english got it

>>44037944
djt tards who don't even know のがす is used more in abstract situations don't get to decide anything
>got it
good

>>44037959
you keep saying のがす when the word we're talking about is とりのがす which does not exist

>>44037969
you keep saying what exists in the dictionary when we're talking about what sounds more logical

>>44037975
language is not about what sounds more logical lmfao

>>44037693
but typing とりのがす gives 取り逃がす too
>>44037944
逃がす–逃す isn't analogous to have–of because in the latter the semantics are completely different and the replacement is just based on sound

>>44037975
>we're talking about what sounds more logical
ye that's a 敗北宣言 if i've ever seen one

>>44037983
language is not about what non-natives think either
natives often say variations of phrases you won't find in dictionaries but nobody cares because dictionaries are made for natives not filthy jsls like djters
your point is moot

how about we tori these nigasu out of the thread

crazy how djt will passionately argue about a language they dont even know...

取り 逃す

she said it in an anime so its correct
everything else is cope

>>44037984
>but typing とりのがす gives 取り逃がす too
and typing どうにはいる gives 堂に入る
what is your point

>>44038010
this is outdated racist language. we say nogasu now

https://streamable.com/616ida

>>44038043
youre not japanese stfu

>>44038062
i accept your concession