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ばかじゃないの。

>Still no estimated end time for maintenance.
Guess the launch day was a bit too smooth for KMS standard so they had to find a way to fuck it up somehow.

>>43979695
honestly they fucked up so hard this time. probably they take this time just to decide on whether they want to piss dolphin/whale or f2p players

>>43979695
Time to place bets on compensation/results. Will there be a rollback? Apology jewels? Guaranteed 3 star tickets?

>>43979924
>Will there be a rollback?
Seems too extreme to me.
>Apology jewels?
Undoubtedly.
>Guaranteed 3 star ticket
I could see them giving one to everybody who didn't abuse the bug on the paid one-time guaranteed gacha. Bug abusers keep their free guaranteed 3 star and everyone else gets one, too.
As for bug abusers who got free rolls in the regular gacha, I think the most reasonable answer is to give them gem debt. They could keep all their pulls but they'd probably have to save up for a long time to even get back to 0 gems, depending on how much they abused the bug.
Although, that still isn't a great response, since some of the cheaters probably have completely maxed out Venuses now and will shitstomp other people in PvP the second it releases, gem debt or not.

Finally, Claudette.
Though it's probably a parallel world Claudette because we still don't have the last one of those events.

>>43980116
Was there a bug with the paid gacha?

>>43980245
As far as I know, for about an hour after the first emergency maint today, no paid gems were consumed when rolling the gacha. The one-time guaranteed 3 star gacha was also affected.
I've seen a joke suggestion that we should get 1000 free rolls as compensation to help catch up to bug abusers.

>>43980306
That's actually pretty impressive. How do you even break your entire gacha system after a patch

https://twitter.com/starknights_PR/status/1678466735937036293
Twinkle's maintenance should be done in 10 minutes. Daily reset is almost here so log in fast.

10K gems and a guaranteed 3* ticket for compensation, not too bad I'll say.

Tower 30f done. Push everything away, stun something and have venus go wild on it. Pull venus back again and again with both msgks

Anima from ticket and finally got Yomi, pretty good

Got Towa, Sophia and her from a 10 ticket gacha roll. Now I have almost all my starter favorites, even made a 2nd team to play around.

Whale boss bug still works for now. Lost once and and got 2k event currency.

>>43981881
Yeah, that's going to get fixed during the next maintenance.
https://twitter.com/starknights_PR/status/1678478076949282816

>>43981506
Are you mainly using Sasha's S2 to push? I have a similar team as you except for Nezemine but I can't for my life clear it. Using MC in her place.

>>43981940
Yeah her s2 is a 5 unit push if you aim it at the center unit it's really strong. Anima has a similar s2

>>43981940
If you don't have Neze, maybe try using Ruruka, the water supporter 1 star. She has a similar EX1.

>>43982021
She's already in the team since I'm only missing Nezemine.
>>43981953
Don't have her either, shucks. Guess I'll just take the 89/90 for now.

>>43975542
What's a blue ticket?

>>43982108
Oh nvm, the spark tracker, thought this was another gacha ticket

>>43981940
>>43982074
https://files.catbox.moe/lr7ub6.mp4
Here's what it looks like

>>43981057
did they rollback abusers or not?

oh come on, thats so lucky and yet getting dupes feels so fucking shit...

>100 rolls and venus keeps evading me
It's over...

How are they going to power creep the initial characters when you have insane turn manipulation from the get go

>>43982977
you arent allowed to complain until you hit 200 rolls and no Yomi while getting Venus 4 times like I did.

>>43983036
>make anti knock back enemies
>make beefy enemy that can't be damaged until you hit certain damage threshold per attack so you need to bring proper DPS instead poking them to death
>shorter time limit should also work to semi counter poking strategy

how do you beat the floor 20 boss? i was once close to killing it because it charged triple unison twice in a row for whatever reason, but whenever it connects even once it just oneshots me.

>>43983246
>Easy rank up Venus
>somehow that's a bad thing
come back when you hit 200 rolls without getting anyone like I did.

>>43983036
True, a bunch of the OP Twinkle Crusaders moves were already transferred over. Like Merilot's Shadow Reactor (EX Unison) is basically Nezemine's Rapture Gum.

But there's still quite a few broken ones they could add. Like pretty much all of the Princess Witches cast's moves.

>force a rumble on the closest enemy
>automatically win every rumble by reflecting the difference in level
>restart the current Unison immediately on the next turn (so OP that it had to be nerfed to drain the EX gauge to use, instead of "only" costing 200)
>clone yourself, then Unison or use EX attacks with that clone
>literally just Metronome from Pokemon
>drain HP AND EX gauge
>reduce everyone's wait/charge time
>reduce all taken damage to 1 for 7-10 hits
>turn the enemy into a cat

>dupe from 3* ticket again.
This is why I have no sympathy whenever they fuck up their games and have to fork out huge compensation for players.

Nezemain from 3* ticket so I don't need to roll until someone broken comes out

>>43983905
>drain HP AND EX gauge
almost there

Got a dupe Nezemine from the 3 star compensation ticket, but I managed to get to 10 gacha tickets today and summoned Ana, who has a cute butt, so that's nice.
And now that I'm taking a closer look, I'm realizing that every fire unit in the game right now is a painfully mediocre selfish attacker. Progressing in the fire tower is gonna be tough.

>another maintenance
christ

How long's maintenance lasting this time? I didn't even get a chance to complete my dailies nor did I even try the whale.

>>43984253
according to the notice until 17jst so 4 hours from now on?

>>43984265
Yep time to sleep

Is shangrila the only recent dmm game that didn't get fucked on day 1

>>43984318
You already forgot they also have a day long maint after launch?

>>43983883
dont care about actual 攻略 in this shitty gacha, only want sex scenes

>>43978571
who is this

>>43984525
https://twitter.com/tenpara_staff/status/1678313113748402181

>>43984318
You already forgot they delayed their release, servers exploded day 1 and has multiple bugs that error looped your account?

>>43982977
100 rolls and no rateup. Waiting until I get 30k jewels before doing the last stretch.
Granted, she should be moving to common pool afterwards, but they don't have any wording to suggest that will be the case. And it would be awful to smack into the ceiling right out of the gate too...

>>43983036
They have numerous elements to spread ideas to. I haven't seen any of the fire 3-stars, but unless I'm missing one, everyone below that rarity is attack only, and only the two 1-stars get any note manipulation when they hit 3-stars.
Looks like only Luluka directly manipulates positions as a 1-star.

>>43985238
>I haven't seen any of the fire 3-stars
Ana

>maint extended
Someone post the cobra picture.

>>43985256
>twinkle star extended maint
>legeclo extended maint
motherfucker i wanted to play

>>43985266
shangriladrive maint also got extended

yup, it was isekai Claudette and Katia

>>43985253
As in, I don't know what her kit looks like.
No I'm not checking the wiki or the doc link.

I went 3/3 on fire tower runs today, using the four low rarity girls. Not exactly spectacular for being the first three floors, but it wasn't as slow as my three support loli run on light's first floor.

quite honestly i think that the free event girl is waaaay cuter than the one from gacha. event shop also gives enough fragments to 3star her so thats nice.

finally something dropped

Wait, the rate up banner gives 120 frags on rate up character dupes but only 70 on the launch characters? Damn that feels really bad.

a week for harder stages?

I legit cannot tell if Twinkle Star Knights combat is worse than Ayakashi Rumble's

they really need to combine quest logs. whale has its own, event has its own and then theres normal log, this is kinda ridiculous lol

Legend Clover's finally up

>>43985796
Wait, the whale has quests? Fucking hell I've been missing it since launch then.

>first ten roll
>get Neze
>second ten roll
>get new loli
I now have full meta, but I still can't get Luluka to 3*s.

>>43985826
new loli is also good?

>>43985831
She has both a push backmost ally forward skill on EX1 and a push all enemies back skill on EX2. I would assume she is.

wtf why did i get over a million reprint event stamps in legeclo

You need keys for the extra stories but there's 3 of them so I don't think it'll be porn.

>>43985831
She's pretty good 'cos her S2 push is a force push that disregards the weight of the enemy. Lv1 effects are 5~6 notes pushback with -1 note per additional lane to the left/right. Upgrades up to 8 notes in total at max level. Her S1 is a pretty nice weight down for enemy and pushing your last ally so it helps your 2nd pusher like Sasha if you use her too.

Did they do something to the framerate of Shangri-la Drive? It feels really sluggish now.

>>43985959
Her unique equip also improves her s2's forced moveback

>>43985982
It doesn't improve the number of notes being pushed back if that's what you're saying. Her unique accessory only improves the damage for both S1 and S2.

>>43986001
It does at mlb. Unsure how many uncaps it needs tho

>>43986025
Oh, their effects get improved with LBs? Thanks for the info, never knew that and was checking it from shop.

>All fire event basically
>Event angel is also an attacker
wtf

I let auto run for some the easier stages and I have no idea what it's trying to accomplish.
>Zero ex skills despite full charge
>Doesn't wait for unison even though the enemy can't catch up before a teammate does
Have to rerun one because they got bodied to under 50%
Speaking of
>rerunning some stuff for 80% HP clear
>Run is pretty good, but still get an S clear
>Check score details
>HP Bonus: 79%
Damnit. I'm just going to take this genki cow or loli sensei to these from now on.

>>43985796
This way just lets you check them while you're actually running something. Even though it's really easy to overlook since it never marks it when a mission is cleared.
But for whale boss, I think it's incentive to go check that specifically.

>>43986039
Yeah some are nutty. The seiken light gorilla girl adds another hit to her EX2. Her EX2 has the absolute highest mod in the game at around 2.4k with maxed skill level and mlb unique equip.

Fanza ranking tickets gave me a free not-pecorine

>>43986048
>not-pecorine
more like shizuru to me

wow, the Twinkle event is fully voiced? wasn't expecting that from a DMM gacha.

As >>43985826, I feel blessed today.

Uhhhhhh

>190 rolls
Anyone know if you get gated by gold anywhere yet? Thinking I might as well get it to 200 instead of letting it convert.

>The girl you got from spark just got quietly sent to your team without showing off her transformation scene.
Talk about insult to injury.

how does the whale event work? it has time limit and only crystals in the shop are time limited, is there going to be another boss with different crystals after whaleboi is gone or what? im debating whether i want to buy crystals or some accessory. speaking of, which accessories would you recommend going for first?

>>43986265
same as the event girl, its kinda lame and i hope that its a bug or something.

>>43986265
>>43986368
you can rewatch their scene from char menu (profile button the on bottom of their stat menu)

>>43986350
It'll probably cycle through 3 different bosses, seeing how only humans get the attack buff right now.

>>43986436
so theres no rush for shit that doesnt have end date to it? neat

Is anyone else having trouble logging in to eden's ritter?

>>43986545
No problem for me, though recently the memory leak problem makes it impossible to play the game for more than 15 minutes on chrome.

>>43986384
yeah, but im almost certain that this is a bug because whenever you raise a character to 3 star then the animation plays automatically.

>>43982173
how are your characters teleporting to the front at the beginning of the battle?

>>43986677
Rocket start

>>43986693
whats that?

>>43985925
Keys are from doing memoria quests as daily event missions.

The new girl is pretty hot but I need to stop pretending I'm rolling anything but common dupes in this scam. And where is that butthole that thought there was going to be mileage available while this memoria event was going? Finally got that card to SSR now that they brought double drops+runs back to memoria dailies.

Also does it feel like they changed up their strategy and overall plan since anniversary?

>>43986146
Tenkei Paradox
Jew Princess Reincarnation (but they rarely run such events)
Mist Train Girls
Kamihime maybe?

>>43986677
>>43986727
Anon pls...

>>43986730
anon im serious, i noticed this in some video and now here. all while im struggling to clear shit because sometimes my units are about as fast or even slower than enemies lol

>>43986820
Before I find my spoon, you have to tell me your favorite girl so far and what your team says at the start of the fight. It's pronounced with an Engrish accent, but you should still be able to understand.

sharure-nu is best girl (2 star). also isn't rocket start when you get the circle in the circle

>>43986820
This is why aliens won't come visit us

goddamn Claudette's tits are even bigger out in the open

think im gonna save up for this ho when she comes out in 2 years

>>43986891
fuck. i never even noticed it until you pointed it out. in my defense i play with max speed since beginning and shit moves really fast. maybe i can max clear tower bosses after all...
as for my favorite then it would be sasha, though i really like charlene too.

>>43987089
I'm glad they didn't samesize her tits like they like to do with a lot of characters, where they are huge, then they get shrunk for the bedroom
Still, rape is sleep

Mahamut and Namiel is so disgusting together. Finally managed to clear the hardest stage of the Whale boss today with her.

Does Kumasan run 2x drops for their other games? Wondering if I should save the ticket entries for daily mats they gave out as compensation for the issues.

oh they're actually rerunning her

>>43986972
Charlene. The u vowel can almost always be dropped for borrow words when trying to puzzle what it's supposed to be.
>But then why didn't they use a ン at the end?
shh...
But yes, this is the right answer.

>>43987196
Sasha is great too.
Honestly a lot of the demon girls are up there. Except I can't figure out what Lillia is supposed to be based off of, as she doesn't have any horns/wings/ears etc.

>>43987329
Mahamut is absolutely obnoxious

Out of curiosity, did anyone build a team that can reliably auto through all 30 floors of the tower? I can do it manually thanks to Venus/Ruriel/Mahamut but I can imagine doing auto would be a pain in the ass.

>>43987554
thanks anon, finally did it with the new tech.
now i only have to beat last whale levels. if i retire the whale fight does it consume the attempt and lock out my girls? i always played it safe and only fought third level, because im scared of bricking the run lol

>>43988229
Retiring is fine. Only getting killed by him locks out the characters you used and takes away an attempt.

>>43988229
It also locks you out if you run out of time, so pay attention and get out of there before it's too late.

so does isekai Claudette put Assclaps out of a job?
lower CD reduction on her heal but it targets the whole map

>>43987483
This got me to start kamihime back whenever it first ran, when I spotted the icon on the front page. I managed to get her but it was certainly a miserable experience, especially back then before they streamlined all the busywork.
Makes me wonder if they're going to do a new release?

>>43986146
All kms games are fully voiced

Why is a Venus-lead unison so much weaker than her EX1? A 2 person unison with her as leader does like 3k but her EX1 is a 30k nuke.

>>43990742
idk about others but monmusu td events are not voiced, only main story.

>burn affects the whale
Really should've been using Anna.

I think it took me at least 1200~1500 stamina to get 1 3* equipment drop

>>43988998
so that's what she does, I saw a -1 but I thought it was the usual damage skill -1 on kill
that still looks like a meh upgrade to something that works just fine
still would roll for her for the titties if I had more rolls

Where do you get exclusive gear? I'm assuming you need to progress hard mode but I haven't been able to beat the boss for the second world yet. Also holy shit I forgot how horrible exp mats are when you pick up a brand new game, so many levels I need but lol nope no exp.

>>43992222
Exchange from the whale boss token shop.

>>43992258
Oh the one thing I've been slacking on, great.

>>43991788
I'm at over 4000 with no Nova Rod from Hard 6-D.

>>43991774
>looking around for ana strategy
>stumbled upon this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPV6ftoqUKk
seems like 1 attacker + 4 supports will be the way to go for this game

Is it me or defenders without barrier skill is pretty meh? Their damage reduction skills have low value, they seem to have very high weight and would win in rumble fight by themselves but their slow ass speed isn't helpful for that niche.

>>43992654
How do people have so many 3*'s of 1/2*s already? Are they whaling or are they buying out the shop

event boss having no skip sucks, it doesnt help that drops are pretty shit aside from guaranteed(?) fragment

>>43992916
You can't really farm the fragments to exchange them from the shop yet so the only answer is whaling.

Watching auto lose me a god clear because it decided to charge a triple union instead of finishing up the last 5%

>>43988998
no lol. assclaps does -3CT on her heal.

they're FAKE

>>43992978
The auto in Twinkle is incorrigibly shit. It really needs character-specific toggles in regards to letting each one use which of their skills or charge.

Getting a lot of screen tearing on the dmm player but the browser version feels really laggy...

>>43993510
I got screen tearing too after running the game for a few hours but it went away after restarting the game.

does weapon type matter in twinkle knights?

Upcoming characters have leaked.

>>43992833
There are already some enemies with debilitating status effects that can be applied through barriers, so maybe having a taunter to soak them could be useful in specific difficult content later on.
But for right now, yeah they're pretty bad.

>>43992916
They're spending all their gems and buying multiple of the 2 hour 160 to 480 yen deals that give 20 to 30 star pieces. It takes about 250 star pieces to get a 2 star to 3 stars if you haven't rolled any dupes of them.

>>43993510
I got a lot of screen tearing as well. Only way I could fix it was by matching the game's resolution to my display's in regedit and playing in full screen.

>>43993713
If you match the weapon with the character's proffered type, they get extra attack, which only matters for the 1 or 2 attackers in your team. Everyone else is better off taking EX or EX rise weapons.

>>43993774
>Anna swimsuit
I should've been saving harder.

>>43993774
Putting a loli in a swimsuit right after launch, they really want that sweet gacha bux.

>>43993774
Where'd you get these

and whale down. ive seen a lot of people complain about combat in this game but im honestly quite enjoying it.

>Get Feniel to 3-star
>More pieces become available
>100 pieces for 80,000 event medals
>That's only halfway to finishing her 4th star
I hope you lads are strapped in for this...

Also, what's going on with her ex2 skill? It reads like a run of the mill, semi-pointless single target attack skill but when I go use it, it seems to encompass adjacent lanes.

>>43991018
Ex skills have a list of things it's doing and working off of. The attack-all unison is just combined (maybe) attack power dropped on the enemy team in the leader's element.

>>43993411
THAT'S WHY
Should've known something was up when her transform looked different from her usual appearance.

>>43994037
>I hope you lads are strapped in for this...
currently highest event boss has guaranteed shard drop, at least it always dropped a shard for me so far. maybe higher levels will drop more?

>>43993774
I'm ready for my summer loli

>>43994057
there is a rare chance of the boss dropping 2 shards

>>43994022
Discord.

>>43994031
People understandably shit on the combat because it's a bit of an RNG-shitfest early on and the UI sucks total ass, but it gets a lot better as you learn the game (and get better units).

>>43994091
my dick is ready, especially for the second girl.

they should've just plagiarized Tenkei or Star Rail for combat and not revive some old eroge's actual gameplay mechanics. Also I think they fixed remembering having Auto ticked on after refreshing the game.

And the last bit.

Anyone has a good sample of the 3* equipment drop rate in Hard Mode? Been doing 6D Hard everyday with my spare stamina hoping to get 1 of the 2 weapons to drop but even the 2* equipments barely drop.

>Instead of an original battle system they should have plagiarized [shit] or [garbage]
Nope

>>43993431
gotta love when the wave has like 50 hp left and they bust out a quadruple unison attack

>>43993774
easy skips

>>43994091
might not skip this though if the third girl has a thighjob

they need to add exp and affection gain when skipping stages. Dunno if I should be surprised or not shit like this gets constantly overlooked in newly released garbage.

>>43994395
dont skip
like pricum, you only get exp and affection potion equal to those gained by 1 character if you skip it.

>>43993774
Fiona is sexy but an alt this early...dunno

>>43994091
All skip

>>43994130
Maybe loli witch

>>43994404
I have no idea what a "pricum" is

I didn't realize whale boss has an ex2 that practically flattens my entire team, so not only did I lose a run I was expecting to go much longer (let a tag get a turn to avoid a unison/rumble), who I had remaining for a third team couldn't do anything except 'get close' before they got deleted.

>>43994404
Run-limited stages should be fine to skip.
But I don't think anyone has the technical patience to manually run everything all the time, especially with auto being as hokey as it is.

>>43994460
Princess Connect. Shortened to PriCon in Japanese, and it's popularity on /mbgg/ flourished and got a nickname...
It's known for popularizing this rarity raising system that a lot of games started copying as a way to have dupes be "useful" but not in a direct manner - while also making bottom feeders take a long time to raise rarity.

>>43994516
I know what princess connect is, was completely confused on what a "pricum" was. Looks like I need to wait for KMS to add auto farming function as in Tenkei...and for them to remove it and actually put the exp gains when skipping.

yooo, this thing can give tickets?
also fuck, i only found out now that event characters increase drops...

>>43994516
imo, pricum is also the first mobage that introduce skip/skip tickets

>>43994609
>imo
iirc

>>43994554
a word play on priconne and precum since you basically can follow your dick and raise any girls you like without worrying about their rarity from gacha

In Aigis is it better to buy cost reduction hero fairies from the normal exchange shop or from the tower?

>>43994746
You get plenty of Rainbow Crystals and they're extremely cheap for Rainbow Crystals. The tower exchange has a bunch more important things to get like certain heroes for barracks bonuses and ten rolls every month, but you buy the cost reduction hero fairies there if you really want to cost reduce a hero and have run out of the ones in the monthly RC exchange.

Btw don't toss your equipment before uncapping them. There's a 3star uncap orb as a mission reward for uncapping stuff a 100 times

>>43994091
Is that the fanza discord?It seems pretty dead

Should I pull on the gundam banner in eden's ritter or wait for swimsuits?

Is that a unlimited debuff immunity or one time cure?

Spent the next 10 minutes after this point whittling down Imlau's HP with only Tytto because Lukifer couldn't reach. Didn't want to restart at the time to move her to the right because I didn't know if I could repeat my steps (I did afterwards anyway). With this I've finally reached 520 on ToC.

>>43996043
Didn't even think about doing it with Lukifer. Used Epthra instead and it was a bitch to not leak either the healers on the left or the big guy from the right

>>43995409
Immunity as long as the skill's on

>>43993774
I'll roll for the blonde witch
>>43994091
I'll roll for the white witch

>Spend 3~4k stamina getting a 3* drop for my Merueru
>Find out she doesn't have a proficiency for it
Kind of an unnecessary mechanic

>>43999210
What drop was it?

what do you guys use your stamina for?
event (feniel pieces) or trying your luck on *3 equip?

>>44000188
The event unit sucks so I'm using stamina on event dailies and then farming hard main story for drops.

>>43999798
Unicorn lance h3-c, at least it's a good EX stat stick

>have a Meruel/Venus comp that can consistently do 150k to whale before it one shots me
>have Anna burn comp that can do other 50k
Well I guess that means I'm at endgame. What are your guys whale comps?

>>44000188
This seems like a game where you're expected to have comps for every element so farming a 5* Feniel seems worthwhile. She also works for my third whale team in case of the chance I die with the whale at like 10k left. I get the feeling they might make mechanics focused around burn and other status ailments in the future.

wow bought venus accessory and i went from struggling with the whale to venus casually two tapping it. power sure ramps up very quickly.

>>44001478
Game difficulty also swings wildly depend on whether you get lucky or not. I spent like dozen of tries to 3 star the tower 30 boss to no avail, then one run I got lucky, everyone lined up perfect and the boss got annihilated in 1 union before it can even make its first move. Quite underwhelming honestly.

>collect all button
>hidden achievement of the same type appears after hitting collect all
>need to sit on the screen hitting the button 30 times
why did they do this

>>44001649
It took them like 1.5 years to consolidate everything when you collect weekly rewards in mist train

>>44001665
this means that they already have the technology

>>44001665
it's not a massive issue since it will mostly go away after the starting missions are all cleared, but it's still annoying.
>>44001693
also this

>>44001693
>have the technology
One thing I learnt from those kusoge is that all companies will start from ground zero again when they develop a new game.

>79%
GOD
>74%
FUCKING
>77%
DAMNIT

>>44000682
>>44000856
The description on her ex2 is wrong in some aspect. Sure there's the burn debuff but it's also hitting multiple enemies and doing a shit ton of damage.
>They just gave compensation for a bug associated with her ex skill
Nevermind it's probably fixed. Haven't taken her to something to really test it.

Is there a description on what the debuffs even do? Nevermind, Help has it
>Poison and Burn - Damage for each CT
>Paralysis and Freeze - Note can't move
>Confusion - Input and target becomes random
>Atrophy - Reduces amount of ex gauge obtained
>Silence - Can't use ex skills

>Whale comp
Finding it's a bit 'safer' to run my second party first instead of my strongest first. Strongest can tank a lot better once it gets the atk buff from being under half hp.

>>44001601
>Finish whale with third team
>Error: Error has occurred
Didn't eat my run but had to retire the reattempt because of the start arrangement.

>>44002492
>Nevermind it's probably fixed. Haven't taken her to something to really test it.
surely they didnt nerf her right

>>44002567
That whale retry I had to do was because I unison charged some supports and when her turn came up, I used her ex2 and it did next to nothing. But when I normally use her I get the atk buff from her ex1 first, and obviously I can't tell if it's still multi-hit on a boss. I won't manually run an event hard stage until later to test her out.

Based event tickets gave me both of the new Shangris. Probably won't ever use them because they're single target but the outfits are appreciated.

>>44002567
her 2nd skill supposedly a single target as per description, but it was acting like an AoE and was fixed

Here you are, whore

August premium pass skin is bartender Shingen

its been a while since I did level 131 Leviathan, and Valentine Arthur didnt even get to move. Looks like that extra damage from Class Affinity buffed up Beethoven and Da Vinci considerably.

Midnight Girls R collabing with some game with irl 3Ds, what the heck. never expected that. does anyone here even play any of those?

>>44000856
Venus, Mahamut, Namiel, Ruriel(2*) and Fiona. Thinking about buying Ruriel's shards for the 3* EX2 but I don't even have the SP to use it even if I get it until I get some 3* EXUP gear on the girls.

>>44004708
It's just a mission collab, so they're just looking for crossover players and not likely to get anything substantial in either. Something like Idol Wars had cards for the guests from a 3dpd game, but those had 2D art.
I almost picked up one of the 3dpd games when I realized I could play any moonrune game I wanted.Thankfully I had those thoughts exorcised.
They use AV actresses (duh) but found out some dub over the recordings with VAs

>They fixed the humans perpetually walking in the pixel house they finally finished
Can't have anything in this game

Does anybody know what the time limited green crystals in the accessory shop are for? Wondering if I should buy them.

>>44008189
Those green crystals have a 60% chance to pop out a human faction 3 star if you use 100 of them from your inventory. I bought them because I'm okay with getting a dupe of Nezemine or Fiona, and I still need Irena.

>>44008305
>60/40 bullshit boxes
Oh. That also explains the crystals from elemental tower. I really wonder why that ratio is industry standard. It feels like the exact probability meant to tilt people by just putting it slightly in your favor, but still making getting jackshit a relatively common outcome.

>>44002988
Based DWU. I forgot this collab even happened.

>>44008305
nezemine is (fallen) angel

>>44008714
I'm gonna hoard human crystal until they add venus in it. it's not like you will get 100 piece this month anyway

Finally cleared the last level of deneb, spent almost 40 mins don't think I'm going to bother with it again
The 2nd last stage might even be too much effort to clear daily too.

Stop it, Hecatie... Why are you smiling at me like that?

Wish these type of games had a skill filter, don't know who has (if there's even any) a barrier as their first skill

>>44009290
She just had sex with you and is now expecting more sex, did you not read the mandatory h-scenes?

RIP Illusion

>>44009915
Just saw that about half an hour ago. Still hasn't really set in. It's so hard to believe.

>>44008714
getting 2 star is not that bad since plenty of them have pretty good skills if you upgrade them. also so far i have a pretty good record with them, got a 2star and 3star from general 30% crystals and a 3star from general 60% so far. though im now wondering if i still want to crack them or hoard them because im missing only like 5 characters.
>>44008964
how do you know what characters are in the pool?

>>44009915
>>44010065
Quite shocked to see them go like that, but they only have themselves to blame. They struck gold with schoolmate 2 and koikatsu but instead of making more add on and expansions for them they just went on with those games with the crappy realistic 3d models that no one asked for.
RIP.

>>44010066
>how do you know what characters are in the pool?
from detail button on item menu

>>44010066
>>44010152
for example, this is large water crystal
I'll definitely use this ASAP since it has very good *3 lineup

>>44010169
damn, forgot pic

>>44010152
damn i think im getting blind because i never noticed this button before

>>44010173
this is pretty funny how fire stones only have anna in the pool lmao

KMS forgot to put up monthly passes and extra daily quest limits after they decided to randomly reduce dailies from 3 to 2 a day. So much garbage being overlooked with gachashit nowadays.

>>44011620
and then they add a banner claiming drops are 50% extra that can be changed anytime. Dunno what they're trying to achieve here anymore.

>>44011620
it wasnt randomly though. unless im mistaken, baseline was always 2 but there was +1 daily "campaign"

>>44011770
You are correct. It is a launch 7 day campaign that added 1 extra entry per day for daily content. The base is 2, so 2 + 1 naturally equates to 3. Right now, the new campaign for 7 days has started which gives 50% more drop to the EXP and money daily. Guy above you is just trying to stir the pot for no reason other than being bored or just a pure shitstain. Campaigns giving various benefits that rotates has been a longstanding of any live service games, not just gachas.

>>44011620
>>44011636
>t. eop

>>44011770
>>44011847
if you havent noticed, evolution, skill and equipment materials are only obtainable from daily quest with a limit, which makes no sense at all. No passes at launch is still a mystery though.

>>44011855
池沼ガイジ

>>44011974
just enjoy your bonsaige

>>44012006
I dont mind equipment quest to be daily, but evolution and skill quests being time gated is annoying as hell.

Also, Cathia is the only relevant lancer isnt she.

>>44011928
she will be mine

>>44012027
Scathach

>>44011928
very cute. thanks for always posting these.

Cleared everything but the timegated towers. I had to hit pity for Venus but after I got her I basically used the same team for everything with a flex swap to Ana to burn whale. I was still clearing without her but fights were much slower with Fiona as my own dps kek.

40CT self attack buffer dps are pretty strong (Venus, Lillia) because that's basically two whole lane turns and they can stack the buff. Skill is very spammable since it's an EX1 as well. You can probably get more than 3x the effect if you use abilities like Nezemines on them.

Barriers are also really strong for longer fights. Never getting hit basically allows you to stack your Rush counter and you get damage numbers similar to coin stage boss. Multihit attacks also build rush faster and their hit counts are doubled at level 10 with their accessories adding +1 hit when maxed.

>>43992654
Anna basically only works here because the whale is super weak to burn which increases the proc chance by 2x and her aoe can basically give it 5 burns. Otherwise, she does like no damage everywhere else.

I could probably get away with putting in Jeanne somewhere

>>44012938
> and their hit counts are doubled at level 10
Wait, like Lilia's EX1 will go from 3 hits to 6 hits at Skill Level 10?

>dropping the pick-up rates from 1.5% to 1%
>non-pick-ups are still limited to base units only
What a dick-ass move. How many games actually nerf their gacha later on? Usually it's just buffs once the game starts overflowing with old girls.

>>44013596
yes. lilia, meruel, some *2 with skill that do x% dmg 3 times will go to 6 hits (+1 to 7 with their max LB acc)

>>44014292
oh, and that +1 hit is gained on lv 4, 7, and 10 on respective skill
other skill get higher dmg icnrease on that level, or sometime extra number on buffs (like nezemain will also increase %CT reduction on those level while all other level will simply increase the buff timer)

>>44009427
>skill filter
Yes please. In every game that has hundreds of variations on different nonsense going on, nobody seems capable of implementing a way to pick out something within that nonsense.

>>44011928
>>44012106
Wew.
Going to end up regretting the rolls I did for Rosette hips.

>>44014253
Jew Princess has increased restrictions practically every month.
>Enigma classification where you only need one of them, instead of a dozen dupes to raise.
>Eventually should be able to exchange for them with common drops but now new ones have been pay-only
>New common releases got a step up (discount rolls, increased rates) until a paid guarantee
>Now only one step can be done with free gems, have to paypig tickets to progress further
>They introduced limited Jewels (not even enigmas) that you can't even roll on step up without paypigging
>Have to roll a separate, more expensive gacha with 2% rates, the remaining 98% is common item trash.
And 90% of the content/jewels they add are rehashes from the previous game they trashed, except now it's paid-only.

>>44014730
Thank god I didn't pick up that jewel game.

>>44014730
There are two things I've learned about these kinds of games: 1) Never play a foreign version. Only play the original release. The foreign version will almost always die before the original does while also being way behind in content and probably be censored somehow. 2) Never play a game that has died once and come back. It will be way worse.

>>44016432
I didn't even mention how many boosters they sell for every fucking reward list.
Oh, and one event is specifically so players can fight over drops with paid tokens.

>>44016532
I didn't really get deep into JewPri's original, but I got a lot of the outfits they rehashed and paygated. They got animations but they're simple single loop two speed sort of stuff. I also can't compare gameplay, just that pvp is still a shitfest and I literally can't advance story because their idea of engaging content is mutliple waves which include a fast-casting bitch that meteors your team.

Meshiya has been better, but perhaps some aspect of the charm disappeared, whatever that may have been.

Did this reset early? Last I saw it said 2 days remaining but that didn't sync up with the whale end time either.

Is it even worth buying anyways? The units available in it are pretty mid since I already have Fiona and Irena and the opportunity cost is accessories. As high as 60% chance is, it's still not a guarantee and will cost you 20k medals which is 2 accessories.

>>44017763
Mine is still bought out, it hasn't reset for me at least. Two accessories might be better if you're rushing to cap out your characters, I bought them since I'm just chilling.

>>44017804
Is it 0/6 with 14 days for you? I'm just asking because I didn't buy it before the timer changed and was wondering if it actually reset or just got the time got extended(reset) since this cycle ends in about 16 hours.

>>44017763
They extended the duration that they're available because we're gonna get medals as compensation for the whale boss bug sometime soon.

Is there a way to check debuffs/buffs?

>>43991018

Leader attack shouldn't matter. Looks like it scales with rush?

What to bring to whale? I'm stuck at 上級 and if I get bad luck or misclick I get close to being fucked. My standard team is Neze/Venus/Lurielorwhatever/Luluca/kinda whoever I feel like it. I basically just spam everyones ex1 and the last character I bring just sits there and slaps rarely using a skill.

>>44018547
like the other anon said, element from leader + leader knockback range is probably the only thing matter when choosing which one to lead the unison. plus maybe if you want to sacrifice a character to fill the gauge first

>>44018927
try ana, and do risemara using her skill 2 and see if you can burn at least 4 whale at the start

>>44018927
I'd bring Mahmut because she was specifically designed to push back the whale. Also an invested barrier character like 3 star Sophia or Sharon can help you tank.

I refuse to believe 3* equipment drops exist

>>44018927
This is what I used, you could probably replace Namiel with Mahamut but I was using her to control turn order/using s2 to do aoe knockback
Otherwise try and get Luluca/Nezemain to move Venus up as much as possible and mash Luriel/Venus s1 as much as possible

>>44019082
I'd be fine with them not existing if the stamina cost wasn't so fucking high

>>44019123
Also I was hoping the event would have at least one of them in the shop

Everyone needs too many skill report E

>>44018927
Work on Sasha at least. Her ex2 is indispensable for crowds and bosses, especially breaking up enemy unison formations. But aside from that, I can't really give advice on 超級, since I got ruined attempting it today after my main team got bodied without even reaching half hp, when they needed to reach sub 10%. I don't need my ticket back, but some pity trophies would be nice on a failed run. The boss gets a buff to its ex skills under 50% hp, so maybe take a weaker team first before sending in Venus.
You also need to figure out managing your charges. Venus' ex1 is absurd by itself but being able to stun a tag is helpful for buying time or bullying purposes. You should have enough time to charge one or two girls at the start.

>download Twinkle scene rips
>Brown Egyptian girl already has her scenes in the game and it is also anal
This has to be a record for a DMM game. Especially considering it's 1 H-scene per girl instead of 2.

>>44019472
Is her anal actually visible or is it ambiguous like Ana?

>>44019624
It's visible. There's also sex scenes for other unreleased characters, like two of the leaked characters I posted above.

Eggplant is at level 79 with LB2 accessory and EX1 level 8. Still need a good weapon for her. Hopefully I get enough Charlene dupes to take her to 3*s for real buff shenanigans. I wonder why light is so over tuned compared to every other element.

Hecatie's splash also has assassination during her SAW, which was fun to see work. With this clear I've reached 690 on ToH. Now to wait for HS Risley and heroes to come back.

wanted to make sure there wasn't any more unlocks...

What happens when star knights, mist train and monmusume get top 3 ranking

holy shit thats a lot of damage

>>44020507
The prophecy comes true.

>damn the H-scenes are more enjoyable if you turn off h-scene effect sound from menu

>>44020782
did this after the first scene where they thought it was a good idea to play the moan sfx track simultaneously with voice lines for some reason.

>>44021019
this seems more like a bug than intended thing. similarly sometimes clicking sound bugs out and it keeps playing all the fucking time until the scene is over

>>44018927
I did it with a lot worse gear than this 5 days ago. I had to rely a lot more on sasha/mahamut pushing and clutch rapture gums when it was like level 60 or so. Mahamut/sasha ex2 are lvl 4 rest are default. Can't get shards for horn girl to save my life. You get used to nezemain gameplay after a while I kinda see her being used to drag whatever ele/race carry in their raids unless something drastically changes with the new datamined characters

https://files.catbox.moe/8t7ap5.mp4

>>44021019
I've encountered few hentai ASMR using background moan sfx and it was not bad.
Probably KMS decided to do similar approach but they did it so poorly that they don't really sound synchronized and ended up disrupting one another

Is it better to buy the accessories or the crystal/human gacha?

>>44024727
Accessories if you already have a solid roster. Crystal if you are really desperate to get new characters to fill the holes in your teams.

>>44024727
keep the currency until we know
1. is the whale battle will have new boss or it will only switch bonus atk to other race (angels or mystics) on next reset
2. how hard the event boss after new event stages unlocked in monday (2 more daily reset)

but if you struggle even on current event, then accessory for your main attacker might be a good pick

>>44020507
Flower Knight Girl gets executed for bringing shame to the family

>>44019948
>I wonder why light is so over tuned compared to every other element.
The devs cranked up the stats of light units to encourage whaling on launch while still leaving room to expand with the other elements. If Mahamut is any indication, I would assume most new units regardless of element will be similarly broken.

>>44026175
Lights being carried by the supports in other elements too so it's not like they don't have their own broken units either. Lylia is probably comparable/better than Venus if lightning ever gets a decent buffer.

What are some good dark units for going through the tower? Only 3* I have is Neze

>>44028821
The girl wearing the mask has knockback on her EX1, so she's not horrible.

what is this even

>>44029569
iirc, one of the skill used by summer luoshi

Do you guys go for atk up or crit up equipment? I want to go for crit because crits are dank. Also is there any way to see what kind of equipment characters prefer without having things yet?

>>44024727
im buying crystals because they are expiring while accessories just stay here so ill just slowly buy them with leftovers

nice, i finally have enough characters to progress all elemental towers.

>>44031536
personally collecting crit since on end game win seems to be a lot better (multiplicative vs additive multiplier)

there are 3 type of weapon (see upper right icon)
1. slash/pierce
2. blunt/strike
3. magic
just look at lower rarity equipment and see what type of weapon they prefer

What's the rotation schedule for the whale fight supposed to be?

AAAAAH THIS IS NOT HECATIE
IT NEVER FUCKING IS HECATIE I HATE THIS GAME SO MUCH

Couldn't believe my luck.

>>44036595
Well done

>>44036760
Thanks. I'm really casual though so the limit break pieces are wasted on me (one duplicate didn't even give enough in the first place anyway).

can they at least remember Auto turning on after every login, and im not even sure if it actually tries to Rocket Start

Don't forget about this quest if you've already 30F'd your tower.

>>44032095
Bonuses also seem to be type specific as of the current weapons. Slash weapons give EX, blunt gives crit, and magic gives EX up.

Don't know if they'll break the pattern later, but could keep an eye on dps weapon type since blunts can edge out a bit more attack from getting a 50% bonus which is 216 attack from the 432 weapons. On element crit weapons do give like 30.4% crit though(except fire). Raw attack wise, the 2 stars without any substats actually have more than the 3 stars. If you don't care about the abilities or EX/EXup, you can use those instead.

Got 3 Holy fists and 0 Nova Rods so far from H6-D. Might take a break and try to get some 2 star EX Rise armor.

I'm dumb and didn't make a party with event bonuses this entire time even though I rolled Mahamut day 1

>>44038223
It doesn't even with auto on

It's funny how worthless the recommended team power indicator is for the fights. You can easily beat the fight even if the recommended power is multiple times higher than your team power.

Unreliable indicator is still way better than the shit they pulled in Nikke where they apply a massive debuff to you if you are lower than their recommended team power though.

>>44039389
It's pretty reliable for getting god clears on auto I think. If it's over the recommended power you're likely taking more than 80% or getting wiped from bosses.

I was worried Zekka wouldn't make it in because she wears pants. Her 3d face looks round and less angry than I remember.

Let me put Venus on the home screen, it's not like she's giving me anything useful

reminder maintenance today
in case you want to save stamina for new event stages

>>44040540
but she's already on everyone's home screens all the time

>>44040578
It's not the same

>>44040567
Seems like that's going to be the standard maint time, man that sucks for me.

Everyone in this thread dropping 150k damage hits in Twinkle Knights and I'm over here with my 2-10k damage from my damage characters.

>>44040540
>it's not like she's giving me anything useful
leveling mats, tickets and gems would count as pretty useful i think

https://twitter.com/starknights_PR/status/1680850461728055297

Oh

>bunch of new stuff in the event shop
>no E reports
fucking hell why are they like this

Oh wow 42400 medals as compensation

>>44044037
Sasha with a dispel on S2 and lesser knockback because of the dispel. I like her ojousama vibe but I don't think I can pull for her.

>>44044082
Only got like 30k+ from the compensation, wonder how it's counted since I didn't fail the whale fights when I was doing them.

>>44044084
I thought it was funny that you could get mahamut for 4800x2 and buying out 50 of her shards to just exchange for her and it was going to be a recurring thing. They dont seem to be selling any of the new character's shards tho.

>>44044066
e-report drop on event stages

>>44044096

>>44044091
I got 42600. I assume it's set so that everyone has the same amount, maybe excluding daily or first clear missions people forgot to pick up.
For reference I'd have 55450 total.

>new batch of event items use different currency
really?

>>44044082
I also got exactly 42400, but I missed the first day of playing entirely and didn't get to the highest level of whale until a few days before it went away. However, if I tally up all my spendings, I'd have 65650 medals total.

rolled way more than i initially wanted to but i have zero regrets and drills transformation scene was pure sex. im also 20 shards off from sharon 3* so i could get a barrier whenever ill need it, so thats nice.

>>44044498
I rolled with you too. Got a spare dupe on the side. She ohohohos on entrance that's worth the price of these rolls already

>>44044498
>>44044540
I got offrated so hard and only managed to roll her on the 150th. Got like 4 Fiona dupes and 1 new Nezemine during it.

bought 2 accessories, and 7/10 of the gems with 300 remaining, so 27300. I did miss using up all the tickets on 1-2 earlier days though I think.

>>44044498
>>44044540
Went for 1 ten roll and got a Meruel dupe, I have 60k, but I have to save for Egyptian girl and swimsuit Anna.

>>44044651
FUCK. Her scene is a hairjob. I was hoping it'll be a sex scene, now I'm feeling a little sad for the 150 rolls I've put in.

holy crap 6 shards

>>44045134
damn that will make it easy to get her to *5
now I need to decide whether I build her or ana (*3)

>>44045283
yeah im at 51/300 for 5 star upgrade and i still didnt buy the most expensive shards from last weeks part and only bought the cheapest from this part, so buying everything will probably be overkill. can you do anything with excess shards even?

This event really highlights how bad the release fire low-rarities are, compared to the event girl. Who isn't even particularly special, she just manages to do a lot more damage compared to the others.

>Sasha gets targeted by boss
>Lose entry tickets
Fug

>>44045079
I'm going to strangle you.

>>44045471
Strangle sex with her hair will be pretty neat. Just not a normal hairjob......

>>44045471
Yuuri seems okay? She has dual atk+crit buff on her EX1 but the damage mod is below average. Her atk at level 60 was higher than Feniel(event) who was 1 star higher. She also has a so-so proper single target nuke if you're below a certain amount of stun (3 or less at level 1) but that's conditional and at EX2.

>Common trash in the swimsuit ssr ticket pool
Can't have shit in this game.

>>44045696
She's the only other fire I take to Hard fights after Feniel, since I don't have Ana or event gacha 3-stars.
Most of them would probably be 'fine' with some skill levels but the low-tier reports are currently at a premium.

>>44045471
Decided to do a damage% EX ranking of all attacker units. Unique Accessories at full limit break increase all these values by 50% and add a bit more to the skills at the top which are multi-hit by adding an attack to them. AoE attacks can do up to 5 times the damage listed if 5 enemies are present.

1200% Single Debuff EX2 Lilia
1104% Single Debuff EX2 Annulas
800% Single EX1 Tamaki
720% Single Status EX2 Pheniel
660% Single Status Propel Ally EX2 Maribel
564% Single Self-buff Propel Ally EX1 Lilia
564% Single Status EX1 Meruel
504% AoE Propel Ally EX2 Meruel
480% Single EX1 Cenary
420% AoE Propel Ally EX2 Cenary
288% Single Self-buff Propel Allies EX1 Venus
264% Single EX1 Eris
264% Single Conditional Self-buff EX1 Pheniel
252% Single Healing Status Propel Ally EX2 Hotarubi
250% Single Knockback Stun EX2 Venus
240% Single Self-buff EX1 Hotarubi
240% Single Debuff EX1 Maribel
208% Single Stun Propel Allies EX2 Kuroto
200% AoE Knockback EX2 Sasha
200% AoE Debuff Status EX2 Fiona
192% Single Self-Buff EX1 Hildione
192% Single Status EX1 Sasha
184% AoE Knockback EX2 Eris
176% Single Status EX1 Annulas
168% AoE Status Propel Ally EX2 Tamaki
160% Single EX1 Kuroto
150% AoE Knockback Dispel EX2 Hildione
144% Single Knockback EX1 Fiona
144% Single Self-buff Status EX1 Anna
134% AoE Status Propel Ally EX2 Anna

There are very clearly 4 archetypes for damaging skills with strength adjusted depending on if it's EX1 or EX2 and other effects of the skill. Status infliction seems to have the highest tradeoff cost by the way.
Plain Single Target
Single Target Multi-Hit
AoE to the left and right lanes
AoE within 3 notes
Lower rarities are weaker than higher rarities, but the bigger problem is the complete lack of characters with the harder hitting types of skills. AoE within 3 notes is stronger than general AoE and multi-hits are stronger than normal single target skills unless they have an attack buff specifically attached. The reason Pheniel hits so hard wasn't because she was doing AoE, it was because she had a multi-hit skill.

>>44046633
how about this doggo?
I personally think she is a hidden gem

Is there a good way to farm silver fairies in Aigis?

>>44046633
Also decided to categorize the list for better reading and pointing out who actually has good skills.

Multi-hit skills:
1932% Single Propel Ally EX2 Yuris
1200% Single Debuff EX2 Lilia
1104% Single Debuff EX2 Annulas
1092% Single EX2 Katya
800% Single EX1 Tamaki
720% Single Status EX2 Pheniel
660% Single Status Propel Ally EX2 Maribel
564% Single Self-buff Propel Ally EX1 Lilia
564% Single Status EX1 Meruel
520% Single Self-buff EX1 Katya
480% Single EX1 Cenary

AoE within 3 notes:
504% AoE Propel Ally EX2 Meruel
420% AoE Propel Ally EX2 Cenary
168% AoE Status Propel Ally EX2 Maia

Normal Single Target:
288% Single Self-buff Propel Allies EX1 Venus
288% Single Self-buff EX1 Yuris
264% Single EX1 Eris
264% Single Conditional Self-buff EX1 Pheniel
252% Single Healing Status Propel Ally EX2 Hotarubi
250% Single Knockback Stun EX2 Venus
240% Single Self-buff EX1 Hotarubi
240% Single Self-buff EX1 Maia
240% Single Debuff EX1 Maribel
240% Single EX1 Setsuna
208% Single Stun Propel Allies EX2 Kuroto
192% Single Self-Buff EX1 Hildione
192% Single Status EX1 Sasha
176% Single Status EX1 Annulas
160% Single EX1 Kuroto
144% Single Knockback EX1 Fiona
144% Single Knockback EX1 Namiel
144% Single Self-buff Status EX1 Anna

General AoE:
200% AoE Knockback EX2 Sasha
200% AoE Knockback EX2 Namiel
200% AoE Debuff Status EX2 Fiona
184% AoE Knockback EX2 Eris
168% AoE Status Propel Ally EX2 Tamaki
150% AoE Knockback Dispel EX2 Hildione
134% AoE Status Propel Ally EX2 Anna
126% AoE Knockback EX2 Setsuna

Anybody with skills in the top two categories will be a worthwhile attacker. For the other two categories, the standouts for single target are the ones with self-attack buffs, and for general AoE, it's knockback. Hotarubi and Maia stand out as decent low rarity attackers due to this. Single target EX2s are the worst off though general AoE skills can still do decent damage simply because they hit all enemies. Anna is really unfortunate having neutered modifiers due to inflicting burn and her self-buff on EX1 is a crit buff instead of attack.

>>44046784
Oh yeah, speed types are also basically just fast attackers. Added them to the list.
>both EXs are multi-hit
You are correct.

>>44046976
If you have to farm them, then you do the fairy daily I suppose, however, I just use Gladys(the all rarity fairy) for class changing as I ran out of silvers and am always out of them. You do consume silvers 6 times as fast as black fairies so it's not like you're going to ever be bottlenecked on black class changing especially when most new classes don't even have a class change.

>>44046633
>The reason Pheniel hits so hard wasn't because she was doing AoE, it was because she had a multi-hit skill
But multi-hit is still on the one target. Her ex2 was erroneously hitting multiple lanes before the fix. After the fix, it doesn't seem to do enough to use 2 charges on, when her ex1 hits plenty hard.

Also you're going with the presumption that anyone has enough skill reports to work on making these multi-hits do a substantial amount of damage. Granted, I don't think this game has an explicit defense modifier that usually make multi-hit awful for tanky enemies, aside from the debuffs to increase damage taken (Charlene ex1 for example)

>>44046784
I like her a lot (Setsuna is fun too) but she doesn't have much going on for her. They're both speed, which I haven't really found a purpose for, aside from being able to race to the line pretty quickly.
Koumei is another fun one but she's heal support.

>>44047009
>288% Single Self-buff Propel Allies EX1 Venus
christ that seems very low compared to big multihits and my venus was already strong enough to one shot the hardest whale lol

>>44047245
Checking the JP wiki to confirm, yeah, you're right Pheniel got a huge nerf with her skill being corrected to single target. The reason she was hitting so hard was because she was the only one with multi-hit AoE in the entire game. Theoretically, she could have hit 3600% damage before the fix.

>>44047349
Damage calculations in this game are very multiplicative with attack buffing. Venus's is 46%-92% so a 1.46x-1.92x multiplier compared to any unit without attack buffs. Combined with Ruriel's +100-200%, all light units get to hit hard as fuck. What really will keep Venus broken in the future though is the propel all allies part which is actually really rare compared to just propelling 1 ally.

>>44047448
speaking of which, are buffs stacking with each other instead of overwriting? i sometimes notice that after a few ruriel rounds that my venus is attacking pretty much immediately after previous attack lol

>>44046633
so accessory mods are added to every hit? that's the assumption because multihits have much lower bonuses and happen to be 50% of the skill right? no multiplicative bonuses here?

>>44047529
Not only do they stack, they can stack with themselves. One of the reasons Venus hits so fucking hard is because she has twice her attack buff on her second EX1. This is another reason why all self-attack buffers are inherently good.

>>44047562
Accessory mods are basically additive with the skill's normal multipliers. Taking Lilia for example who has 150%*8 hits or 1200% damage at level 10 EX2, her accessory adds 75% to the skill modifier and an extra hit turning it into 225%*9 hit or 2025% damage. If it were just the skill modifier, she would be doing exactly 50% more damage at 225%*8/1800% damage, but the extra hit ends up adding more comparative to accessory bonuses for non-multi hit skills.

Also, something that shouldn't be forgotten is base attack and equipment stats. Attacker accessories also give a huge chunk of attack stat which significantly raises the base of all this multiplicative chicanery.

>>44047009
>AoE within 3 notes
>worthwhile attacker
Childhood friend fingers typed this post.
But seriously, they're too conditional and reliant on RNG to be worth using unless you're a f2p with no other options. Having to retry a stage 20 times until all the enemies line up is dumb when you could just unga bunga with Venus or Lilia and be done with it.

>>44047637
i actually meant if it was a 1.75x mod for the hits, but the numbers are such a way that makes it seem unlikely as single hit skills would have a much larger bonus. But then again, that could make up for not being good at building rush as multihit skills seem strictly superior.

https://twinklestarknights.wikiru.jp/?SandBox%2Fダメージ計算式
Also, here's the JP wiki page that goes over the damage formula.
All attack buffs are additive with each other and form a final multiplier when added together.
Critical hits are 1.5x meaning crit chance buffs are some of the worst value in the game.
Attribute advantage is 1.5x and 0.5x on disadvantage.
Stunned enemies take double damage.
Charge is another 1.5x multiplier.
Rush is a combo multiplier that's 1% for hits 1-10, 2% for hits 11-20, and so on, up to a 6.59x multiplier at 100 hits.

>>44047733
I feel like there's a very huge divide between one-shotting the enemy immediately when they're all grouped together versus actually having to play the stage out where enemies can properly separate which is where you seem to be fixated. The 3 note range AoEs tend to work perfectly fine at one-shotting the stage immediately. There's a reason there's a literal whale one-shot on the spreadsheet when Meruel didn't even have bonus damage like Venus did. Also, I just use both Meruel and Venus. Ruriel buffs both of them to the starting line immediately and I can charge the whole formation, so it's pretty trivial to hyper destroy anything. Meruel still does buttloads of damage even if you only get 3 enemies.

>>44047779
All accessory skill damage values are exactly 50% of the skill's base damage at level 10 or 100% at level 1. If they weren't additive and instead multiplicative, the resulting bonuses would be wildly inconsistent and some accessories would be utterly ridiculous.

>zenith
Think I'm good with danta, zuo (lu bu), big alex, okita and rear

>>44047733
And to actually illustrate.
https://files.catbox.moe/k5vyv1.mp4
My Meruel did 15k*5 damage with level 4 EX2 while Venus did 30k with level 8 EX1 despite being vastly more invested.

Did they say what's going on with the Whale battle in Twinkle? Like are they closing it indefinitely or is the next session going to open soon?

>>44047009
nice to hear, I'm kinda convinced that daughter of kaori and hiyori won't be bad as she inherit both good side. good cycle from kaori and multi hit from hiyori

>>44047245
personally I also have a hard time to find a reason why she is replaceable in the party
but cathia being speed means she can be your battery. my main canon is meruel so she need that extra energy as well as someone to latch on when using nezemain/ruruka.
some anon also mention about charge having +50% atk buff as well which also has good synergy with speed type.
also on how #hit on uninterrupted combo will give you better damage multiplier. this probably only good in paper or if you can make full knockback/teleport/barrier party

also personally think that in the future you will need to make 3 parties like during whale event, similar to pricum dungeon.
I personally think that they set the whale weak enough to defeat using 1 party since the game is still new and most player won't have the resource to even build a proper full party plus it is a time gated event.

>>44047448
>Damage calculations in this game are very multiplicative with attack buffing. Venus's is 46%-92% so a 1.46x-1.92x multiplier compared to any unit without attack buffs.
what people need to consider beside a blind multiplier is the atk stat itself. any number mubltiplied by 0 is 0. venus iirc has the highest atk stat so it really help with buff and multiplier

>>44047822
>Critical hits are 1.5x meaning crit chance buffs are some of the worst value in the game.
I don't think so, atk buff is additive one another so it will end up giving you diminishing return
crit on the other hand will end up being multiplicative multiplier
in most game in general, stacking atk on early game is the way to go as you need to hit damage ceiling, but it will fall compared to crit stacking during late game

>>44047941
god i love her so much

Missed the first day of this event, probably not going to hold top 1000 for the next 3 hours before it goes away. Really not sure how they expect people to hit 4m points in such a short time span. Going to just chalk this up to a game mode for whales only to make them feel good.

>>44048173
Love her God clear voice line so much.

>>44048173
I love her dom H-scene too.

I'm not entirely sure, but I think they added more event boss kill missions so don't forget to do some of the lower difficulties again for those gems.
I'm pretty sure my kill count for the 3rd boss should've been higher than 3, so I'm guessing it just carried over the count from a previous mission which stopped at 3.

is this completely random? its my second ticket already
>>44048705
im not sure if they added anything, i finished 中級 10 kills before second part and theres nothing after that. today i finished 上級 10 kills and theres another quest for 15 kills, which could be new but i dont know.

also which event stage are you guys skipping? only normal stages seem to drop both tokens and hard mode drops are kinda weird with only one type of token.

>>44047009
>AoE within 3 notes:
>420% AoE Propel Ally EX2 Cenary
Cenary's EX2 is just the standard 3 lane AoE, not 3 notes.

>>44048841
I must've forgotten to do the boss a few times since I only did 1 boss a day for the daily mission, which should've put me at 5 if I did it every day. I didn't even know there were milestone kills, would've done more than the minimum if I actually checked.

>also which event stage are you guys skipping?
I'm just skipping hard, but I guess it's worth checking whether normal is good if you still need the old currency.

>>44048146
Don't get me wrong, I detest it when I'm not able to run girls I like. I had a goof-off team that I eventually had to stop using so I could progress more consistently.

They kinda designed the whale where you'll be fucked using your progressively weaker teams. Don't know how many times I failed the run with 2k~5k hp left on the whale. Resources are rather limited right now too, so getting numerous decent teams put together is also a challenge.
It's partially why I'm wary of focusing all resources on Venus compared to getting everyone raised together.

>>44048173
I hope they don't completely forget their various release characters going forward, but they're probably just going to use them for seasonal bait.

>>44048841
Looks like it's every other stage on Hard that flips between event drops, but I'd assume higher up gives more boss tickets.
>Hard 9 and 6 drop skill reports
Been running Hard 10 but I guess that's changing.

>>44048841
>>44049135
You can skip 9 for old drops and exchange excess to the new drops when you finish. It's not 1:1 but if you still need old drops, like I do, it's a nice option.

tower weekly quest feels kinda dumb after clearing entire tower. they rework it to count elemental towers or something.

Looks like Magdalena and Wisteria were on the sadpanda archive so im gonna save up for them. Unfortunately it's too hard to get all girls in this game unlike Tenkei Paradox.

Costs 25 silver badges to trade for 10 gold
1 gold = 2.5x silver

Stage 10 hard 40 stamina 432 gold (1080 silver)
Stage 9 hard 38 stamina 1026 silver
Stage 6 hard 36 stamina 380 gold (950 silver)
Stage 20 normal 28 stamina 134 gold 336 silver (671 silver)

Silver per stamina
Hard 10: 27
Hard 9: 27
Hard 6: 26.38
Normal 20: 23.96

>>44051763
forgot about boss tickets
Hard 10 gives 388 (9.7/stamina)
Hard 9 gives 358 (9.4/stamina)

>>44051763
>>44051830
Due to the amount of boss clear missions, it's probably worth it to refresh stamina with gems, at least the first 3 times as the first 3 just cost 40 each while each boss clear amount challenge gives 150 gems.

>>44048841
>finished 上級 10 kills and theres another quest for 15 kills, which could be new but i dont know.
It was there before, it goes up to 20 according to the wiki iirc

Whoever designed the stage select/team UI needs to be fired. Keep changing stages when I want to change teams.

>>44052175