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>> No.4389370

Why are you using a generic tactician. Shouldn't you have Kenshin and Ai before taking on Takeda?

>> No.4389376

I fucking hate it, when that happens.

>> No.4389387

>>4389370
Didn't feel like goin through the mikos/ashikage.

>> No.4389392

And Ikkyu died. God I wish I had Ikkyu for this bullshit.

>> No.4389410

maybe you should have brought more R% officers

>> No.4389419

Only characters in that lineup worth anything are Rance and Suzume

>> No.4389432

>>4389419

Yuzuhara and Yamamoto are god-tier.

>> No.4389437

>>4389419

I see you've never played a 5 star game before.

>> No.4389440

>>4389419
Isoroku can pull off up to two insta-kill attacks compared to Suzume's one. And if Yuzuhara is equipped with Working Bee then you don't need to worry about the enemy's front line.

>> No.4389443

>>4389419
Yamamoto with 1400 troops or more+7 on attack stat+Yamamoto sweeping fire= instawin.
If ANYONE manages to fuck up with that, he should stop playing rance.

>> No.4389444

>>4389432
Yuzuhara's good, but Yamamoto's only good for the cheap assassination attempt, which is only ever useful if you're going to be a douche and save scum.

>> No.4389549

>>4389444

See:

>>4389437

>> No.4389555

>>4389444
I dunno man, 3/4 times it works for me.

>> No.4389557

hahaha, that result is just cruel.

>> No.4389567

>>4389419

are you kidding? They are all between okay and pretty good except for that generic dude in the top rear.

>> No.4389568

Is guard break good for anything?

>> No.4389591

>>4389557
It's on their last castle too man.

>> No.4389768

>>4389568

yeah, if the enemy has strong footmen in front and back you can use it and then punch out some weaker unit like a miko or ninja for the bonus you get if you annihilate a unit. My favorite way of beating enemies that turtle is to turtle myself and increase the result bar with character abilities, Sanada's skill and attacks that hit everything like miko storm 2 or A cutter or something, though.

>> No.4389914

>>4389768
Sanada Tourin+Naoe Ai+Hara shouji with 9 attack stat (up him to 7, and use whatever item you like that gives +2 atk)
Status up twice
Volley

Enemy is fucked.

>> No.4390169

Only in an h-strategy game can you kill 99% of the enemy and still somehow lose.

>> No.4390179

>>4389914
In any other difficulty than normal?
No.

>> No.4390215

>Play game for the first time
>Recruit Ikkyu
>HOLY SHIT THIS IS FUCKING AWESOME
You know how it ends.
Feels bad man.

>> No.4390343

What the shit is up with Ran's Suzako?

>> No.4390353

>>4390343
As a famous saying says, 'NINJAS NINJAS NINJAS'

>> No.4390365

Takeda rolls again

>> No.4390385

What the fuck. I'm on normal. Yamgata Masa is fucking in Mouri Family currently. Every time i try to capture him he fucking doesnt get captured.. I have ranmaru with light attack and defeated warrior hunt. I shoulda gotten Shizuka. But how did you guys get him?

>> No.4390398

>>4390385
Make sure your prison is somewhat empty(more tha 20=NO CAPTURING)
Try to beat only his group (you can capture him even if you lose the battle)

>> No.4390405
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>>4390385

patience. Seriously, even with those the computer is a complete bastard for who it'll actually chose to get captured. Out of a sense of pure hope I tried only taking out the commander I wanted to catch to try and not only catch two shitty commanders...

This happened. I had to reload and take another half hour getting it done right.

>> No.4390421

>>4390169
Probably, Tourin misdirected them and Shouen roared and made them scramble for a while.

Battle Rating manipulation is dirty but effective... and weirder things have happened in real-life battles.

>> No.4390438
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>>4390405

the best part of this is that Baba was assassinated by the man I was trying to catch, further, the guy I was trying to catch IS THE FINAL TAKEDA COMMANDER I NEEDED.

>> No.4390447

>>4390169

eh, what? I can't offhandedly think of another game where killing any less than ALL enemies will still count as a win the way it does in Sengoku Rance.

>> No.4390458

>>4390447
Certain Strategy(os SRPGs) missions.
One fag remains, you have 30 times the numbers 'WHOOPS'

>> No.4390484
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>>4390405
>>4390438
Whoa.
I can't top that.

>> No.4390515

>>4390398
Thank you anon

>> No.4390546

Any Total war game

Or just about any other game where the enemy army can rout

>> No.4390550

>>4389549
Dream on, moron. If you're relying on autokill attacks on a five star game, then you're playing it completely wrong.

>> No.4390695

>>4390546

Total War actually is a good example for a game that doesn't do this but most strategy or SRPGs are just like "kill everything" which is actually less realistic than having a time limit in which the attacker needs to do enough damage to drive the defender out ("damage" being a concept that can also include causing confusion etc)

>> No.4390710

Okay, /jp/, I thought that instead of making a new thread I'll try here.

I am fucking terrible at Rance. When I try playing normally I'll get to turn 20 or some shit and lose horribly to the Tenshi sect or some shit, so I decided to try a walkthrough.

I've been using this one ( http://www.gamefaqs.com/computer/doswin/file/936089/58210 ) with decent success up to turn 18.

The problem I have now is that I'm getting my ass kicked. First I have to successfully attack Mikawa, easy enough, then defend against them trying to take back the territory I just took, and then they decide to attack that Oil Field. TWICE. And finally, since Hara is still alive they decide to try and take back their territory as well.

It's just impossible. Even with a walkthrough I fail horribly. I guess it's time for me to give up on this game soon, then.

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>> No.4390764

>>4390710

twice? on the first playthrough? I thought it was once per round there.

>> No.4390782

>>4390710
http://alicesoft.wikia.com/wiki/Sengoku_Rance:First_Game_three_moves_in_thirteen_turns
Keep playing till you can pull this off.
You will have 3 fans early, you will learn how to take advantage of human resources(RECRUIT FOOTSOLDIERS etc), learn how to take advantage of Satisfaction bonuses and youhave a decent ground for further conquest.
Come back when you are done.

>> No.4390800

>>4390758

it doesn't get much worse than that

that the diviner was actually just about to release the shikigamis makes it even more hilarious.

>> No.4390911

>>4390782
The guide I posted is pretty much a slightly modified version of that link. So yes, I have three action fans, and I've had it since turn 14 or something. Yet I die horribly.

Tried reloading now, and after attacking Mikawa Tokugawa decided to try to take back territory in Mikawa, as well as attack Owari twice, and Mamushi Oil Field once, and finally Hara tried taking their territory back as well.

I just don't see how that's possible to defend against.

>> No.4390930

>>4390911
...You just fucking suck if you managed to do all these and cannot DEFEND.

>> No.4390961

>>4390911

sounds like it's not, you shouldn't be at war with both at the same time. Tokugawa is pretty tough on the first playthrough, you won't want to be at war with them before you captured at least Hara and Ashikaga.

>> No.4391009

>>4390930
I know that.

>>4390961
The walkthrough I'm using actually specifies that this is what I should do. Also, I already conquered Ashikaga back at turn 8.

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4391050

rance thread?

I found a modded save and fucked around with it for a few minuets.

I am unstoppable.

>> No.4391077

>>4391050
>Ashikaga Shit

wat

>> No.4391223

>>4391009
A walkthrough suggests tackling Tokugawa that early in the game, while you're fighting another country? In a first game?

An experienced player could pull it off but I really wouldn't recommend doing that.

>>4391077
His name changes to Ashikaga Shit if you character clear him.

>> No.4391331

Wherecan I find this game

>> No.4391352

>>4391331
No links for people sent by KoG.

>> No.4391495

>>4391223

yeah, maybe try to do them one by one without that guide, it's not that hard. Also why didn't you get Hara first?

>> No.4391590

>>4391495
Quoting the guide: a. By keeping the Hara House around, the Iga House will not declare war on
you.

>> No.4391654

>>4391590

yeah well, if you want to play by a guide later that may work, for a first playthrough I'd recommend getting them first.

>> No.4391661

that's it /jp/, keep encouraging /v/ users to post on this board by replying to their sengoku rance threads, please keep up the good work.

>> No.4391682

>>4391590
Irrelevant. The Iga House will almost never declare war on you. The ONLY time they declared war on me was when I conquered everyone else whist messing around in Ran's route. Going Hara->Ashikaga->Miko->Tokugawa/Taneshima is the best route for you now.

>> No.4391855

1-star Second Game. How come I can't vassalize Tenshi?

>> No.4392064
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4392064

Okay, how the fuck do I get Masamune to join? I recruited his 3 wives, and beat him 3 different times, yet he still won't join.

>> No.4392077
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4392077

what happened to my post?

anyway, found a modded save and played with it for a bit.

>> No.4392092

Why is this game so out of moves?

>> No.4392103
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Save me... /jp/

>> No.4392117

>>4392064
he joins the turn after you beat him if you didn't clear any of his wives

>> No.4392132

>>4392103

Go west young man
You will eventually get everything

>> No.4392148

>>4392132
Not very upgraded armies..

;~;

>> No.4392153

>>4392064
he joins after you conquer the one eyed house but you can't have cleared any of his wives

>> No.4392155

>>4392103
>vassaling anything

>> No.4392161
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>>4392148
Forgot my file.

>> No.4392168

>>4391590
Iga will only declare war on you if you're not at war. Basically, declare war on another country in the same turn that you're fully conquering your current opponent, and Iga will leave you alone the whole game. Much less hassle than keeping Hara alive.

>>4391855
You can only vassal them in Demon Army routes. You have to let them live until after the Honnouji event. Seigan will suggest peace eventually.

>>4392064
You have to capture 3 wives (but don't clear any of them), turn the other to stone, beat Dokuganryuu Masamune himself, and wait however many turns it takes for him to join. Might be delayed for over 20 turns by high priority story events.

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>>4392117
>he joins the turn after
>captured Dokuganryuu last

>> No.4392185

>>4392155
You need to vassal pretty much anything that's vassalizable if you want to complete the progress report. It's a bit of a hassle, but a must for completists.

>> No.4392209

>>4392185
This looks like the guy's first game, so that's pretty unimportant right now.

>>4392103
>>4392161
Wow... just head west and try and recruit more units.

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>>4392209
Turn 105 decided to say..

"You conquered all of the Demon Army, good fucking job."

>> No.4392280

>>4392103
If you dick around long enough the majority of that will be conquered automatically.

>> No.4392289

>>4392278
>>4392280
Yeah, that's what I meant.

>> No.4392414

>start with Mouri bonus
>do Kenshin route
>chinusplat.jpg
;_;

>> No.4392445

To get the emperor's ring I just need to get Ashikaga to trust and then boot him correct? I don't need Aki for this right?

>> No.4392479
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4392479

dieing moe~

>> No.4392488

>>4392479
Will you one day to take her to the moon?

>> No.4392494

>>4392488
She already rode my rocket.

>> No.4392511

>>4392479
Rance saves the world from aliens and nobody cares

>> No.4392522

>>4392278
>>4392161
>>4392103
I'm sorry, but I'm just gonna have to say WHY IN THE FLYING FUCK did you not hit Uesugi before Demon Army came?

And SAT BONUSES motherfucker. Do you use it?

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4392912

So I have the last 3 guys from Takeda. Only one I'm missing is Kousaka fucking ninja. Where the fuck is he hiding? Anyone know? It's like fucking Carmen Sandiego. Where in the world is Kousakadiego.

>> No.4392918

>>4392912
You should have paid attention to the start-up of every turn to see who hired him.

>> No.4392923

>>4392918
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUCKKKKKKKKK

>> No.4392998
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kyuu~

>> No.4393040

>>4392923
It's possible he hasn't joined anyone yet
If he has, it'd probably be Shimazu. Countries don't recruit very many people if they aren't at war losing them

It wouldn't help to have read the between-turns thing either

>> No.4393179

>>4390758
Oh fuck, I am laughing and crying at the same time.

>> No.4393361

Playing Ran's route for the first time. I hear that those african boys steal away female commanders. Is it ANY commander(including people like Senhime and Kenshin) or just the generic ones?

>> No.4393367

>>4393361
any female commander that is not in love or ?trust

>> No.4393402

>>4393367
Shit. Sounds hard. And I thought the Demon Army was a bitch, pulling troops out of their asses and diminishing your max troops...

>> No.4393437

>>4393361
It's random, so you can reload and defend again if you want them to steal another.

I usually conquer them before they can steal any of my girls, but you need them to steal at least one girl if you want access to some Kurohime scenes, clears for the four Shimazu brothers and most importantly Agireda's gang-bang scene.

>> No.4393449

>>4392479
Pikoko

>> No.4393475

>>4393437
Can I get them back?

>> No.4393589

>>4393475
no

>> No.4393855

>>4393475
Indeed you can't.

Hire a shit one from your prison if you don't want to lose anyone valuable.

>> No.4393868

How the hell do I beat the "Homo Firebird"

He's killed like, three of my commanders. It's frustrating as fuck.

>> No.4393883

Hey /jp/ where can i get this game, you guys talk about it all the time and I want to try it.

>> No.4393891

>>4393883

Sengoku Rance

the rest is up to you

>> No.4393892

>>4393868
Kentarou, I think.

>> No.4393896

>>4393868
Send Kentarou if he is a demon to stall and give Ken 3 levels up. Send Souun if you want to kill the demon and maybe clear Souun. Also, if you read the alicesoft wiki, things will go great for you later.

>> No.4393935

>>4393891

Thanks bro, found it.

>> No.4393936

>>4393896
>>4393892
Thank you both very much. I didn't want to risk a story character.

>> No.4394154

OP here. As I was fighting Takeda, the coondogs decided to wage war on me. Okay. Fine. I finish off Takeda. The Asai family declares war after I'm not given the option to hold back on titty-grabbin. Okeydoke, cool. Makou: Hey you know what's fun? WAR GOGOGO.

Goddamn this game doesn't like me.

>> No.4394217

>>4394154
Makou?

>> No.4394233

>>4394217
I'll admit I'm still trying to figure that one out.

>> No.4394281

Reading this thread makes me want to play Rance again.

>> No.4394537

>>4394281
I spent hundreds of hours on that game and I'm sure I'll play it again, but now that I've done everything on the Progress Report I want more.

Kichikuou Rance or Rance VI would be nice, but I haven't seen anyone brave enough to plan their translation.

>> No.4394565

>>4394537
I beat the game once and then stopped playing about halfway through Ran's route, though I don't know why.

>> No.4394568

>>4394217
Mouri. I hurred a durr since I ain't slept in two years.

>> No.4394602

>>4394568
Days.

HURDDURRR

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Which one should I choose? I never know with these.

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>>4394657
Reinforcements.

File related to FFFUUU-- route.

>> No.4394790

>>4394657

I always go for reinforcements whenever I can. They're good for cleaning generics out of your ranks.

Leazus before Zeth.

>> No.4394842

>>4394788

>Kou in front row

Oh man, I remember the first time I made that mistake.

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4394869

What's usually good to choose in these situations?

>> No.4394879

>>4394869

I always give foot soldiers improved initial guard, and everyone else improved initial battle rating. After that, it's whatever the fuck. Winning the battle rating was always my problem way more than needing strong combat abilities.

>> No.4395066

>>4394842
Not a mistake.

I upgraded all of her attributes, and she has guard shikigami. She's pretty tough now.

Needless to say, those monsters beat me down. ;~;

>> No.4395443

Okay, [True] route, how do I beat the rest of the Demon Army?

>> No.4395455

>>4395443
Kill all of their captains.

>> No.4395465

>>4394869

Stats motherfucking stats, with 9 ATK and 9 SPD the monsters shouldn't be much of a problem.

>> No.4395557

>>4394788
With Natori, Kenshin and Uruza that shit is easy.

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>>4395557

Pretty much.

>> No.4395568

>>4390405
I hate to admit I'm a Rance newfag, but why do my screens like this have gibberish instead of numbers? Stuff like "PV" in place of those numbers?

>> No.4395598

>>4395557
Excuse me while I point out I have no major story commanders because demon army came at such a fucking annoying time.

;~;

>> No.4395608

After beating every path I got bored and T search hacked it.
Got myself 500 points to but all items, 1,000,000 gold, Rance to level 99, 500 copies of all the book 2's, 500 cups, infinite action fans, and locked battle flags and timer, 900 sat, 500 motivational posters.
I'll teach the damn computer what it is like fighting a resourceless army that can throw the same units into a battle 3 times in a row is like.

Right now I'm just using my new found power to char clear some of the more difficult bastards.

>> No.4395618

>>4395608
500 motivational paper*
bleh

>> No.4395660

Is there English patch for this?

>> No.4395673

>>4395660

No.

>> No.4395690

>>4395660
Clearly not, else the many screenshots posted in this thread would be in English.

>> No.4395698

>>4395660
I doubt you need to know english to play this game.
Just knowing the numeric numbers is good enough.
Big numbers > small numbers and the sex are almost all entirely rape scenes.

>> No.4395699 [DELETED] 

>>4389358
Good Lord. Thank God you're not at AɳoɳTalk.com.

>> No.4395724

>>4389359
Good Lord. Thank God you're not at AɳoɳTalk.com.

>> No.4395744

*Woosh*

Rance gets naked.

>> No.4395789

>>4395744
He is a master at getting ready for sex. Comes with years of training.

I did love the time when he walked through the battlefield naked to save time, though.

>> No.4395812

>>4395789

that was awesome. He also raped a couple of miko on the way up so the sex with Natori would last longer. All in the name of justice and love.

>>4394537

We need someone who'll hack the games. There are several people here willing to do the actual translation who are just waiting for that to happen.

>> No.4395813

>>4395690
Many Japanese games use English for skills/attacks whatever but have walloftext in moon runes.

Not that i looked at screenshots anyway

>> No.4395870

>>4395812
Damn. All we have to do is find a hacker and they'll get translated?

...fuck. Everyone I know is way too busy.

>>4395813
From experience, skills and such are usually in katakana. I guess it's technically English, but...

>> No.4396445

>>4395870

pretty much, yeah. I know I would start right away if I'd get the chance.

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