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being male, Battler

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Goddamn magical sorceror.

Keiichi is only the magician of words

>>4366545

>Implying magic exists

Battler is a dork.

Keichi any day (except when he has a psychotic episode because then I lock all doors).

>>4366561

Except Keiichi cries even more than Battler and does little else.

>>4366582

Yeah but Keichi has to eat food with nails in it while Battler only has to hang out with a bitch.

>>4366591
more like being delusional enough to believe there's a nail in it

>>4366591

In the beginning he also has to put up with all of the Stakes' bullshit.

>>4366595

Shit still sucks.

>>4366598
what? eating ohagi with tobasco? come on, that's easymodo

Hmm mostly dislike Battler because he looks like a pompous douche.

>>4366601

Hey he also kills his own friends due to his insanity.

>>4366558
Go read Ep5/6

>>4366636

Yeah, they don't prove magic exists in either episodes.

Ep6 gold text doesn't count as proof, as it says "her OWN magic"

>>4366659
don't you fucking start it, avatarfag

>>4366665

You sound mad.

Keiichi >>>>>>>>>> Battler.
Seriously, read both games.

>>4367762

But how is he better? He doesn't even fight back (well, he tries, but fails miserably most times)

Keiichi is ten times manlier than Battler.

>>4366671
He does indeed seem mad.

>>4367979

He does, doesn't he?

Both

at the same time

>>4366513
Why must you stupid guys constantly spam and attack www . anon
talk . com for? Please stop. We don't want any chanturds there.

I would Battler for 1000 years straight.

Battler in casual clothing > K1.

Fuck you and your beige suits, Ryukishi07.

Why choose when you can have both?

>>4366515
Is Battlerko an option?

>>4368415
No, that'd be gay.

>>4366515
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>>4367954

Keiichi gathers the whole village to save Satoko, he's granted the title of Official Representative of Hinamizawa, he's the man that Oryuu was expecting, "the embodiment of the new winds" he will be most likely the next head of the village.
He taught Bernkastel how to create a miracle, she called him "the six in her dice" Along with Rena he made even the crybaby Hanyuu fight.
And he's not fucking incompetent being The Magician of Words.

>>4368435

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>>4368504


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>>4368499

see >>4366558

>>4368499
Actually it doesn't make any fucking sense why Bernkastel is the Witch of Miracles, she actually didn't create a miracle.

>>4368530
Winning the Hinamizawa game was a miracle, no?

I'd Battler, and his cape.

Maybe even both at the same time.

>>4368530
She's the Witch of Miracles in part because she knows that there AREN'T any miracles. I don't have the complete quote, though; could somebody post it?

>>4368588
Don't have it. I do recall Lambda saying that "Bern is the witch who waits for miracles, but Battler is the witch who creates miracles" in EP6, though.

I'd Battler, and his delicious tears.

And apparently, everybody else would too.

>>4368588

But there are miracles, Keiichi does just that in Higurashi, he creates miracles.

>>4368559
CAPEFUCKERS UNITE

Battler is my husbando, nothing wrong with K1 though.

Batter for Eternity.

The whole thing about miracles in umineko and higurashi is that YOU have to make it happen. You cannot just wate for fate to change, YOU must force it.

>>4368718
>wate

>>4368588
>>4368602
Found it in Witches' Tanabata.

> I am a witch. The witch who governs miracles.
> ......No matter what kind of effort, fortune, enthusiasm, or unity......I know that at the end of it all, there is no miracle waiting.
> Specifically because I know that there will be no miracle, I am the Witch of Miracles.

Ronove

>>4366511
Why must you stupid guys constantly spam and attack www . anon
talk . com for? Please stop. We don't want any chanturds there.

I would fuck them both.

>>4368795
>> ......No matter what kind of effort, fortune, enthusiasm, or unity......I know that at the end of it all, there is no miracle waiting.

This is bullshit. Witch of Miracles my ass.
Keiichi and the gang did create a miracle.

>>4368847
Yeah, they did. But the twisted part of it all is that, because Rika never died in the final arc of Higurashi, BERNKASTEL NEVER GOT THOSE MEMORIES OF WINNING.

>>4368867

Except Bernkastel was fighting against Lambdadelta in a way much alike Battler and Beatrice. Human vs witch. Rika was piece-Bernkastel all along.

>>4367762
This.

>>4368918
Bernkastel was in the dark for most of the time, though. She didn't start figuring things out until the very end. In contrast, Battler knew roughly what was going on from the very start, because Beatrice straight-out told him after only one iteration of the game.

>>4368867

Saikoroshi-hen wants a word with you bro.

She does have the memories of winning. Just not the memories of Rika's final life.

>>4368867
Read Higurashi.

You want to see what that piece looks like?

giggle giggle I'm sorry. I can't show it to you.

But in that world, Rika and the gang miraculously beats their hardships and blast through fate to live past June 1983. It's a bit overzealous, so it's kinda embarrassing to show it to you.

"...But I'm sure that the piece that Rika will make will shine much more brighter. Even if she gets trapped in June 19th, 1983, that still will be a very bright piece as the end of Rika's one world. And no matter what kind of hardship stands in her way, if she could get past that, that piece will then shine even brighter. Because no matter what kind of story I make, the story that Rika makes on her own would be the most spectacular."

To me it's pretty obvious b y now that Bernkastel of Higurashi is another being different than the Bern of Umineko.

Rika and Hanyuu were Aurora's pieces, i guess.
Bernkastel and Lambda were born somewhere near the higurashi end.

>>4368918
It was different, though. In Umineko, piece Battler can be influenced/controlled by Meta Battler, but does not possess the memories of Meta Battler. (Not when he's the detective, at least.)

In fact, you can't really treat Higurashi as a gameboard like Umineko. The way things worked there was that the memories of each dead Rika were transferred out by Hanyuu and placed in the Rika of a new kakera (in the process, overwriting that Rika's memories and personality). When the amount of memories started to become too great, and as Hanyuu's power started to weaken, they would accumulate in, for lack of a better term, Higurashi's "meta world", and only a fraction of them would be placed in each new Rika. Note as well that she decided in the real world to use the name "Bernkastel".

>>4368971
> Saikoroshi-hen wants a word with you bro.
I assume you're referring to the sound novel version, because the version that was animated only illustrated that the Rika of the kakera in which she won decided to consider herself separate from Bernkastel from then on, and didn't say anything about whether or not Bernkastel actually had the memories of that Rika, who used to consider herself Bernkastel but after Saikoroshi-hen does not.

>>4368979
Kakera #52

Nice, isn't it?

To say it like this.

That she received an advance of the miracle.　

Very well, I wonder what I will play next.

Because there are as many kakera as I want that I can play with.　

What?

You wanna play too?

*giggle* It's interesting.

It gives you the feeling you became god.　

Like a world where Satoshi is together with them or a world where the Sonozaki twins don't change places.

I wonder what a world where Satoko's parents and Rika's parents are well would be like.
　
Aah, how would it be?

If Akasaka was seduced by Takano and went to the enemy side.

Ahaha, it seems interesting.　

Personally, I have an interest in seeing a world where that Takano is madly in love with Tomitake.

It seems to be interesting to try and play pairing Keiichi with many girls.

I love fighting scenes.

*giggle*

Well, I wonder what I will play next. There are as many kakera as I want.

Hey, do you have some more?

What do you want to play?

>>4368971
> She does have the memories of winning. Just not the memories of Rika's final life.
But I thought the world in which they won WAS Rika's final life. ...Or is Miotsukushi-hen canon after all?

>>4369076
The game Higurashi tells Berkastel doesn't have the memories of Rika, but she can see the Kakeras of her. She knows that Rika, thanks to Keiichi and the gang created a miracle.

From Matsubarashi:

"You want to see that kakera?
giggle giggle. I'm sorry. I can't show it to you. But in that world, Rika and the gang miraculously beats their hardships and blast through fate to live past June 1983. It's a bit overzealous, so it's kinda embarrassing to show it to you."

>>4369120
Oh, that's what you meant. Well yeah, but being able to see something and being able to experience it yourself aren't the same thing.

...In fact, wouldn't that almost make Bernkastel kind of jealous? Part of her was able to get a happy end, and she's able to see that that part of her got a happy end, but she herself didn't get one.

>>4368993
> Bernkastel and Lambda were born somewhere near the higurashi end.
Wrong. Bernkastel existed from the start of Higurashi; after all, she started out as the original Rika. And Lambda existed even before the events of Higurashi; she merely gave Takano some assistance.

>>4369183
I don't hink witches live linearly so it's possible for Takano to paradoxically be both the "base" of Lambdadelta and get assistance from her.

>>4369223
Entirely possible, but if I remember correctly, R07 denied Lambda coming from Takano in an interview a while back (though he didn't deny Bern being Frederica Bernkastel).

>>4369237

>Bern being Frederica Bernkastel

You mean Rika, right?

>>4369291
Iirc, Bernkastel herself states in Higurashi that she's a different person from Rika.

Regardless, the Bernkastel of Umineko probably does use "Frederica" at times, going by the person the second poem at the end of Bernkastel's Letter is attributed to, and by the fact that said poem is used in Episode 6.


Many things were found from his room.
From those evidences, it is possible to deduce that I am loved by you.

Many things were found from my room.
From those evidences, it is possible to deduce that I also love you.
　　　　　　　　　　　
Nothing was found from her room.
However, I can't deny the existence of an undiscovered evidence X of unfaithfulness.
────Frederica Bernkastel

>>4369326

>Iirc, Bernkastel herself states in Higurashi that she's a different person from Rika.

But..she even Niipahs D:

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