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>>43502340
>Previous:
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>>43502273
No she was in love with me.

>>43502379
stop being tsundere, Touko

>>43502273

>>43502466
No!

I think it's somewhat close to Rin and Shirou relatiopnship, where Rin is okay without Shirou but can develop romantic feelings for him

>>43502686
I hate pregfags so much

>>43502273
No though it has more substance/potential than anything you'd find in go or most of the fate/ spinoffs at least.

Full Aoko bush.

one of the best tsuki sprite. unmatched seduction.

silky smooth imouto hair

>>43502794
I hate waifufags in the first place. Degen and creepy. Always weird to see someone say "{Insert jpeg}, My Beloved." so the pregger shit is usually worse. Especially coupled with self insert cringe.

Saiki, My Beloved

Aoko, My Beloved

>>43502794
Cry about it

Aoko Puppet, My Beloved.

schoolfriend.bmp my beloved

Archer, My Beloved.

Unlimited blade work, My Beloved

/tmg/, my beloved.

>>43502839
SHIKI My Beloved...

Where can I read the rest of the FGO storylines? I've finished this playlist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcFfZvZqbmU&list=PLFeASRPMYXgnT3XobD2iz71kn4mW_01-L&ab_channel=JasonDoesWhatever
Is there any channel with a playlist including the rest of the storylines?

>>43503192
>FGO storylines
get a load of this dude

>>43503192
Did you actually watch all that? Woah.
Did you like it at least?
https://www.youtube.com/@Neobenedict/playlists
I think that has all the F/GO content that hasn't been officially translated yet.

>>43503192
Found the M. That's lie slamma jammin your dick in a door.

>>43503224
Yeah, I got hooked on the main story and the filler chapters have gotten better as of late.
There are pieces of lore here and there which was my main motivation for reading.
Thanks, I will check it.

>>43503549
I like it

https://web-ace.jp/tmca/contents/2000048/episode/2381/

https://twitter.com/HenshinRX/status/1658438594837590016?t=9U-fLsbrydbgEsWO6qT7Qw&s=19
bros?

>>43503807
Man, I should really start playing VTMB and create an Arc character

>>43503549
I like that

>>43502340
Can Aoko beat Goku???

>>43503690
Cute

>>43504127
no

>>43504127
She can beat my dick

>>43503363
Glad you're enjoying it bro. Despite everything, I do think the second half of the story is fairly entertaining, with some really cool moments and concepts here and there.
I just never thought someone would want to get into it without engaging in some .png gambling.

>>43502823
Pure maiden in love

>>43503690
Noel and DA Noel are now something like Jekyll and Hyde. Funny idea

>>43503690
>Noel mains Shiki?

Should I read Mahoutsukai no Yoru before Tsukihime?

>>43506521
It doesn't matter.

>>43506521
Sure why not. The other way around is okay too. Applies to both Tsuki and TsukiRe

>>43506521
if you read mahoyo first, you'll understand why a certain something in tsukihime is the way it is
if you read tsuki first, you'll want to read mahoyo to understand why it's like that
tl;dr: >>43506524

>>43504840
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGSsegl_2O4
>they're the same picture.jpg

Reminder that both of them are willing to share

>>43506524
>>43506528
>>43506584
Thanks, I will flip a coin

>>43507265
Arc is so Shikisexual she's ok with the dynamic of him having side hoes so long as he's hers. I guess that's always been the case but now that they seem to be interested in making sequels and have MB alive again, maybe they thought that was the best way to keep the other girls included. That's fair and they'll probably go the amalgamation route but I do want to see something following Ciel-Normal someday since that seemed like such a sick premise for learning about the church and seeing more DA stuff.

Shiki's justification on why she wanted to help Arc defeat Roa when Ciel asked him about it was amazing

My short wife

>>43508266
t. Arc

>>43508433
I mean even Ciel got hit by it

>>43508307
>>43508314
kumari...! sex...!!

>>43502971
I want a boyfriend as cool as Archer…

>>43508786
same

>>43508266
>>43508553
11/10 confession. Shiki is so strong that he causes collateral damage. Shiki's got the perfect balance between puppy and wolf. Just no one like him.

I hate when fags write their deluded coop fanfic scenarios on twitter for me to accidentally stumble upon. At least stay in character.

>>43508786
This.
Straight male btw.

Archer is cute!

>>43502823
>implying

Shiki things.

want beautiful and elegant saber
end up with shit talking living room trashing redman

tohsaka deserves a refund

dubs nasu is kill

>>43508786
You will just end up like one of those girlfriends he abandon after a mission

I finally finished the tsukihime remake's arcueid route. God damn it was great.

Hearing the OST of the original game pop up made me giddy, it was faithful to the original arc route and the extra scenes like Arc getting all giddy before fighting Roa thanks to Shiki's confession.

I did not remember Arc dying to Roa being this sad though.
>Lose your vision
>Think you killed Roa
>Shiki has to pretend everything is ok while you are dying

It's kind of crazy how Nasu's best written romance is the once written over 20 years ago.

I'm hyped for the Ciel route now!

>>43508307

mai cute wife

>>43507195

Seeing this makes me always appreciate carnival phantasm Arcueid voice so much but eh I do like arcueid remake moaning voice.

>>43495830

In all my years on here this is the most random shit ever on here that I need context so bad.

>>43510711
It's amazing. Good taste. Glad you liked it. It's even better with the added elements and the fated angle with the dream stuff. I think it may not have been so sad in the original for some people because it was harder to recognize that Arc's actions were all for naught and that she died in her final attack. I've seen many a person not realize that her final move basically used up the remains of her power and from that point on she was just depleted and not recognizing anything around her except for Shiki in the final moments. Makes the futility that Shiki feels come through really hard especially with the stellar acting from Shiki's VA. The way he's trying to gently lie to her about Roa being dead and being saved, the sense that he's lost everything and to not let her actions go to waste. Man...

>>43510865
>No Seras Victoria
booo

>>43511016
I liked the Captain. He was the best.

Finally watching the trailer and damn it looks pretty good bros

>>43511624
The story is kinda MID but fanservice done right so it's better than any Fate not SN or Hollow I guess.

>>43511643
Plus the animation quality looks good (from what we've seen) so it will be a nice visual treat I am sure

>>43511658
Ya it looks pretty good. Wonder if it will stay solid.

>>43511725
>>43511658
Uh... I wonder if they'll do a flashback to the crusades and show Nero's new DAA design for a few screens as a tease before they unleash him on TsukiR.

Which TM female would make the best futanari? Hardmode: no Saber

>>43511928
Mordred

Does Arc get her LE treatment in the remake?

Doctor boobs, My Beloved.

>>43511989
Last Episode? No. Why do people expect to get that when there needs to be a Tsuki2 first. If you mean a different ending that better leads into the future, wait for her True Route.

>>43511989
She already gets it in FGO with Guda

>>43512408
>Tsuki2 first
Nasu will die before that come out

Does Alaya have a Heroic Spirit Casting Couch?

>>43513058
>>43513063
i honestly don't get shiki. why is he so obsessed over a fatso when he has akiha, ready to suck his cock as soon as he comeback to the mansion? very retarded brother.

>>43513170
Blonde hits different

>>43513170
trust the red garden

>>43512605
Then the answer would be there would never be a conclusion/LE and just vague hints on how things may have occurred between the end of the route(s) and Tsuki2 which hasn't happened to the characters yet. They're in eternal limbo.

>>43513170
imouto hands typed this post

>>43513284
will nasu write implied sex scenes in red garden like he did for arc, or it's a privilege only dedicated to the main heroine?

>>43514147
That'll be a common privilege for all heroines except ciel lmao.

>>43514147
>>43514209
Anons, don't be this dense. What do you think happened after Ciel took a shower and slept together in the same bed as Shiki?

>>43514264
>Anons, don't be this dense. What do you think happened after Ciel took a shower and slept together in the same bed as Shiki?
They played mario kart to sleep

>>43514264

>>43514496
he's literally me

>>43514264
shiki was horny for ciel during her entire route, i remember him wanting to fuck her in the middle of the battle against vlov so i would be surprised if nothing happened that night. still, implied sex scene or at the very least a kiss CG would have been great for ciel. for red garden, i hope nasu manage to write an alternative like he did with arc since i feel like her scene added a bit more than just the H, it was a very sweet scene.

Ciel is pure Love, Arcuied is just Lust

>>43514693
has pure love for curry*

>>43514693
Remake starts with Shiki gawking at Ciel's legs and getting called animal by Mio afterwards.

>>43514693
For Shiki love and lust is in perfect balance probably because he got introduced to sex when he was like 12
>>43514533
It's refreshing how open and proactive Shiki is compared to other TM protags. It makes even common anime tropes fun
>Shiki stays at Ciel apartment
>there's only one bed and they both look at it in silence
>Ah yes, they'll both say "you take the bed" at the same time
>Ciel does say that but Shiki says "ok let's sleep together"
Expectations subverted

>>43511734
It's only a movie is it? There is only so much they can adapt.

>>43514147
Dere Akiha is a miracle

>>43514496
literally me except I don't have a qt tomboyish gf like Shiki

imoutu > school friend > 5th magician > vampire > nun

the maids are just sluts

>>43516753
Why is Ciel there 3 times?

>>43516775
because she only has three fans

>>43516753
>the maids are just sluts
Hisui is quite literally the purest girl there becuase story reasons. If wanting Shiki dick makes a slut then all of them are sluts

>>43516795
we have at least 5 after the remake

I THINK AKIHA IS SEXIER THAN ARCUID

>>43516753
t. Akiha

I haven't even noticed it first time but this scene is even creepier than I though. Through entire thing there are those "tendrils" wriggling around Shiki like some monster from lovecraft mythos waiting to be unleashed. It doesn't feel like simple upgrade to MEoDP. The fuck is that?

>>43517094
Lines?

>>43517107
Lines are the red or blue "scribbles". I mean those black and red shit that looks like tentacles or tendrils and moves around

>>43517094
Surprised this isn't Shiki's Last Arc in MBTL.

>>43517210
MBTL is a timeline where Arc didn't "die" so Shiki didn't go all out. It would probably be Satsujinki Last Arc if we ever were to get him as dlc

>>43517094
Its his brain frying live. These are all lines, his perception is just fucked because he normally can't see/make sense of them

>>43517317
But he saw regular lines too and it looked basically the same as when he was going into overdrive to see lines on Arc in Ciel route. Whatever the fuck >>43517245 is must be something different

>>43517366
For comparison

>>43515570
True.
>>43514496
Impossible, see:
>>43514759 and
>>43514533
Given Shiki's thoughts just prior and the setup it's hard to imagine nothing happened while they time-skipped the entire night. The only thing that might realistically stop him was the presence of Roa but we know better than that.
>>43515856
>>43515298
Preach.
>>43517094
It's a peculiar scene and the tendrils only serve to enhance the foreboding atmosphere. The manga has a weird panel when Roa questions Shiki's humanity. Lines shouldn't move but as he pushes himself and his vision blurs, the world itself melts away and all that's left behind is the world of death like the moon. Maybe Shiki overlayed reality with the boundary/death? Or it's showing the concept that everything in the world is linked and the theme of Tsukihime/KT where Shiki sees the world itself as something that can collapse at any moment. It is rather interesting what sort of unique thing is happening for him to be doing this.

>>43517420
>he was seeing death in space itself, while Arc herself still has no death in that scene
Arc > Space.

>>43517210
He says the line that accompanies this scene(Before stabbing the point) on his Arc Drive despite it not being remotely similar.

>>43517527
Killing her is framed as an impossibility that he does.
Sasuga, Satsujinki.~ Arc

>>43517527
Whole point is that as long as she is connected to the planet she's doesn't have concept of death. No concept of death=no lines. If it's "just" immortality it still can be killed with MEoDP. Look at Ciel and how many lines she has despite Roa paradox which even entire arsenal of the Church couldn't bypass

>>43517366
>>43517420
>something different
its his brain frying. vs arc he was just straining himself, vs Roa he went even further because he was furious.
Also >>43517245 is from Roa POV im pretty sure, I dont remember if tendrils were visible from Shiki's POV so might be just Roa being scared shitless - the whole "seeing approaching death" thats used in fiction alot.

>>43517426
>the world
Actually, if he saw the inanimate objects as "alive", to visualize their "death", it'd kinda make sense if they "moved" to him as if alive, no? could have been just that.

>>43517594
Seems like Shiki is the only thing that could kill Ciel. Easier to just trap her.

>>43517752
No, lines don't move. They make a point of that which is why you can't use the MEoDP to be a carpenter or craftsmen.

Whatever happened with Roa was different and stemmed from Shiki. It's really just him breaking the rules and limitations of his own ability since the idea is that Roa possesses an unsurmountable advantage where Shiki is immobile and cannot reach him but Shiki somehow sees Roa as rooted in death along with the new lines that are formed with Shiki at the center. This results in a scenario where everything in front of Shiki is killed simultaneously. It wasn't Roa's PoV as we're told he couldn't sense anything. The only one who could see this was Shiki. You could argue the initial lines weren't really "moving" so much as Shiki was revealing the truth of the world and seeing more death but that doesn't explain what he did when new lines manifested out of the ether. They wouldn't have given such a new stylization and effect if it was literally nothing different.

>>43517816
>but that doesn't explain what he did when new lines manifested out of the ether
isnt that just lines that were there already but he couldnt see before?

>>43517245
Those are some thicc lines. Also like half a second before this you can see the normal lines on the walls and then these new "lines" overwrite them. If you look at Roa's body you can see he's got both types on him at once.

>>43516795

>>43517834
Doesn't really seem like it? With the way they rush forward and almost crawl up Roa's body. The way the scene unfolds makes it seem like something changed conceptually in that hallway. Roa's body no longer being rooted in the foundation of life seems telling?

>>43517930
I dont wanna think Shiki got some kinda massive buff like that in the remake, especially since nasu based this on the manga scene. To me its just his perception going far beyond what it used to be and rather than seeing singular lines for each separate object it's expanded so far he could see ones responsible for entire areas/concepts

>>43517948
nasu already confirmed that there is something unique to that particular scene/moment which will play a role as to why arcueid only got one route in the first place. shiki 100% got buffed.

>>43517948
Thing is he wasn't straining himself to see death any harder than he did in both Ciel routes, quite the contrary. The only thing that changed was the way he perceived himself, he stopped being human, that much is clear.
So whatever he shows in that scene is just not the same as his regular death perception.

>>43518001
>>43518019
Oh no. This means he will get shoved into f/go one way or another.

I'll be happy so long as Shiki eventually learns to use the chaos Arc used to heal him to make crocodiles shoot out of his arm.

>>43518031
Tsukihime powerlevels > FGO powerlevels.

>>43518019
>he stopped being human
I dont think he can just stop being human like that lol

>>43518107
He probably means metaphorically since that was an important precursor to the scene. Or rather mentally or spiritually?

>>43518129
that doesnt really make sense either, unless he gave up on being human/stopped caring what happens to him

>>43518054
Shiki canonically has the potential to manifest tentacles then?

>>43518138
>>43518054
Shiki is connected to a DA(Roa)
Shiki's body is actually containing DA elements because of Arc.
Shiki is always in the line between life and death because of his circumstances.
Interesting.

>>43516888
Tbf that's not much of a hot take. Akiha and Rin's blue eyes plus dark brown to black hair combo alongside those soft faces of theirs are too much for the penis.

If Far side routes for tsukiremake release in 2025 does that mean translation will be finished in 2030?

>>43518233
>If Far side routes for tsukiremake release in 2025
lol
lmao

>>43518233
I think it's actual possibility to far side routes to be released in 2030+
But don't worry, by that time neural networks will translate shit at very decent level

>>43518286
And there's also a chance for full remake bundle release in english

>>43518294
how high are the chances that its a totally cucked translation that doesnt have any allusions to rape in it

>>43518233
It took 2 years for tsukihimates to translate arc anc ciel routes. So maybe shorter than 5 years if people will have the same will to work

>>43518233
>>43518286
>>43518302

Guys I think im ngmi

tell me something that wont make me kill myself

>>43518300
Is rape a taboo in western media? I think there's plenty of books and movies about victims of rape

>>43518311
kill yourself, stop being a weakling

>>43518315
ok i killed myself

what now

>>43518136
>>43518136
>unless he gave up on being human/stopped caring what happens to him
That's exactly what happened though...

Just learn Japanese

>>43518311
Well, for start you don't need to kill yourself if you want to make it.
Second, if you've already read all nasu's works, I guess you just need to learn to move on. If you didn't, then you can read rest of the vns

>>43518325
but then it would make sense that he just went and fried his brain beyond his limit, because he truly didn't give a fuck if he dies, rather than doing anything else

>>43518356
Frying his brain and doing something new isn't mutually exclusive.

>>43518361
what new thing could he even do though aside from just seeing more lines lol

Shiki also pushed the limits to look into Vlov's history and kill the principle which was really just some invisible light he had no business seeing. Him getting upgrades and new applications related to his psychic powers shouldn't be surprising.

>>43518373
Principle of Death.

inb4 Shiki got Nero transplant during his childhood hospital stay in tsuki;re
inb4 the darkness he released vs Roa was "chaos" taking form as "death"
dont (You) me when im right, still waiting on Ciel TL

What was the wait for the Tsuki remake like?

>>43518405
I didn't care, thankfully. I've read original tsukihime only in 2021, before remake's release.

>>43518405
>He wasn't here when /tmg/ was just the FGO hate general
You newfriends don't know what real pain is.

is muv luv liked here

>>43518469
I never understood the funny of calling sex like seggs.

>>43518405
Suffering. I took a break off any TM content from 2016-2021. TM was dead for me for 5 years.

>>43518457
I can understand why people started to play FGO in the previous decade. But at the same time I think FGO is a step aside from the works Type Moon is loved for and what they capable of.

>>43518405
Bro if only you knew what waiting for Notes is. At least Remake is something they really working on

>>43518516
Good one. Notes was never promised to be delivered in any other format, so why would that bother you?

>>43518497
>step aside
It's why the community crossover is so minimal. Once that shit is over and forgotten you'll see a lot of people just vanish and move onto another gacha.

>>43518457
What about the absolute state of the thread when third ascension Arc was a thing?

>>43518578
That's just obnoxious tourists pushing delusions.

>>43518457
>>He wasn't here when /tmg/ was just the FGO hate general
and if I had my way it still would be. If Nasu wasn't stuck babysitting that retarded fanfiction gacha we'd be getting more VNs

>>43518373
Tohno's powers aren't very simple. Even the points Tohno sees are quite different in effect relative to the standard lines. He's also shown the ability to see the past and be aware of things outside his vision. I think Nasu even said on the old bbs post-tsukihime release that seeing the future was possible. There is a moment in Ciel route where Shiki wonders if the reason he can see the curses of Ciel and Noel is because he's becoming a DA. Given that Origami is likened to a curse, it might just be because of his pure eyes original ability? If I had to guess I'd think he's somehow imposing the concept on the area with Roa which is why he can do something new like chain-linking. Though we won't know until 2030+

>>43518469
Muv-luv was pretty fun but when I think about it, it really didn't have a strong impact on me like real kamige such as Fate, Steins;Gate and Muramasa had.
>Look at the fate community. Look how peacefully they live
Actually laughed out loud.
>>43518480
N*rmalfaggot meme.

>>43518621
Blame the government for not cracking down on that type of stuff. Should be subject to all relevant gambling regulations.

>>43518533
Not promised, but Nasu did said that he wanted to write a big Notes project in the past. So it's something that will never be, but always be dreamed of.
Personally I like the idea of full scale Notes project to be a final moon setting installment that will tie all other stories together and bring a feeling of a closure to nasuverse in general

>>43518681
>read Hollow Ataraxia
>that Archer scene in Decisive battle

>>43518469
Thank god Nasu isn't a complete retard like Kouki.

>>43518636
>If I had to guess I'd think he's somehow imposing the concept on the area with Roa which is why he can do something new like chain-linking
wouldn't that just be a "proper" way to use mystic eyes? Looking at X causing Y?
>He's also shown the ability to see the past and be aware of things outside his vision. I think Nasu even said on the old bbs post-tsukihime release that seeing the future was possible.
isnt that old info, just never explored much - given MEODP lets him see the "end" of things, the name seems mismatched as he's not just seeing "death", but the future. During KT epilogue he even talked to a future version of SHIKI

>>43519170
Giwtwm

>>43517948
Shiki just achieved moksha and is now capable of determining the oneness of all things and the veil and illusions of maya have fallen from his eyes

Then he forgot because he got entranced staring at the moon again

>>43519437
The moon is suppressing his powers with mystic eyes of its own. Its an eternal battle between two transcendants

>>43519455
Not sure if serious. Does this idea have merits?

>>43519409
I don't think the SHIKI at the end of Kagetsu Tohya was a future version, he's just the ghost of the real SHIKI without the inversion impulse that messed up his karma or whatever the explanation was.

And SHIKI in that scenes tells Shiki it's his pure eyes that let allowed him to see SHIKI as a theoretical "future" personality was how he explained it, but in the end he's obviously a real ghost talking with Sacchin and everything.

Not sure if the seeing the past was part of Shiki from the old VN. I thought all the scenes of Shiki seeing the past was just Roa memories leaking.

>>43519504
stop making me realize nasu could actually go through with a shitpost like this.
if you're schizo enough, surely there must be a merit or two

>>43519527
>a real ghost
Sure, but one created through Shiki's eyes, since that version of SHIKI didn't exist till Shiki came up with it basing it on SHIKI's old self.
>Roa leak
It was, I just meant to say that if he could see the future, seeing the past aswell isn't a big stretch.

EVN Rin

>>43519189
I have followed many Japanese creators in my life, and Kouki might actually be the worst. Not in quality of the work sense, but literally everything else.
There's creators that have self-worth issues or just absolutely do not want to be celebs in any way and keep themselves "hidden" for years or even decades, some of them can't even be fucked giving interviews.
There's creators who accept their popularity but are humble about it
There's creators like Nasu who are half aware that they are hacks and joke around about it, they're just in for the ride either for fun or for money.
There's creators who are unpopular as fuck and keep going anyway, or go out silently.
Then there is Kouki, who hasn't done shit in over a decade and stays relevant by saying retarded shit about other IPs or world politics on a weekly basis. A person who ran his company and IP into the fucking dirt but is still convinced he did nothing wrong and instead chooses to throw everyone else under the bus while somehow having the audacity to chain-beg for kickstarter money. A person so fucking retarded that he destroys the prereg campaign of their fourth FGO clone attempt simply by existing.

Kouki sounds like he could kill servants

>>43519409
>wouldn't that just be a "proper" way to use mystic eyes? Looking at X causing Y?
Uh, not sure what you're even trying to say at this point. It doesn't really matter if it's solely from the eyes or a principle or whatever as it's still something new and unique.
>isnt that old info
He's never done anything like read an entire persons history and what makes them them like that. It's essentially some kind of retrocognition however they decide to justify it. I think seeing the principle in the first place is odd enough since it's not something that should even be visible.

>>43519534
Highest class of eyes. MEoDP and the Crimson Moons Rainbow Eyes
The best killer(Human) and the Strongest lifeform(Planet) connected fate.
Seeing the oneness of all things fits the themes and if it was the moon he falls in love with entrancing him that would be sort of kino.

>>43519527
>>43519601
The effect of Shiki's pure eyes is seeing what shouldn't be seen right? That's a pretty broadly useful auxiliary to death perception. Is that why he was able to see Nero's thoughts? That's kind of like Kiri's power but different. Might help explain some of the other stuff like seeing things out of sight and the light of Vlov.

I love the word Mysic Eyes of Death Perception

It sounds stupid and cool at the same time

>>43520733
I love (you)

>>43520743
are you a girl(female)

>>43520213
>It doesn't really matter if it's solely from the eyes or a principle or whatever as it's still something new and unique
I guess I just didnt view it as something particularly new, just a slight variation on what he already had. At least when compared to Shiki getting a principle

I'm more interested in what silly shit he'll do now that he's got bird bones and muscles built for chuuni. That's new but also an expansion and reason for why Shiki could do movements no one else but Nanaya could.

>>43520906
>bird bones
Dino bones. Apparently Nanaya clan was started by the group of velociraptors lol

>>43519621
In retrospect, it's a miracle Age didn't fold in the early 00s or something given how fucking bad he is with money. The dude literally had to sell his house to fund Alternative development. Luckily for him it was a massive financial success. He easily could have fucked over his whole life if that went poorly.

>>43520733
It's a masterpiece of dumb pun translation.

>>43522136

where did it come from? From the translation of the tsukihime anime?

Man. With all this discussion about Shiki's eyes, no wonder Arc called him a monster.

>>43522161
I'm not oldfag enough to know, and I can't find archives that go back far enough.

>>43522532
Then you remember she calls him as rare as his eyes in the sense of his nature and skills as a killer.

Why don't you guys make these tmg threads in an active board like Anime so we can talk actively?

>>43525246
why the fuck would you want to talk to /a/-tards

>>43525265
I'd rather talk to retards than talk to no one.

>>43525246
I like these slow comfy threads. Quality over quantity. You don't usually get a lot of quality discussion in fast boards.

>>43525246
the ones who are interested will come here.
I'm one of them

Fun fact, Medeas beam spell "hecatic graea" has ruby text:
>Divine Word Magic Formula, Bride of Ashes

>>43525271
Then go to /a/ idiot

>>43525246
see >>43525281
Theres threads on /a/ at least once a week anyway, mostly filled with garbage

>>43525246
>>>/a/252729102

>>43525379
>>>/a/252729206
Based

>>43504127
Yeah, just laser beam him while he's distracted.

>>43525596
Or just travel through time and kill him as a kid.

>>43525675
That one wouldn't work due to DBZ time travel rules. When you go back in time like with Trunks' time machine and change the past, you just create a new timeline. This is why nothing Trunks did in the past changed his future.

>>43525708
Retrogalaxy light-year genesis then.

>>43525246
Slow generals are best generals. No general has ever improved by getting more popular.

>>43525882
What you don't enjoy the excitement of posting single buzzwords like it was a youtube live event?

>>43525391
I would fuck Neco-Arc if I get the chance
I wonder how her moans sound like

>>43526294
>t.Neko-Arc
Leave Shiki alone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvYkDwApdk0

So what is Roa's theory? What exactly he got right? Whatever it is it must be some pretty arcane knowledge that's unknown to even top magi.
This is also the only time Roa was so ecstatic. Despite all the craziness that goes on in Ciel's True at no point was he ever this excited. That would mean that was all stuff he either saw or knew of, which says a lot. That means what Arc did in this one scene was more impressive than almost anything that went on in Ciel's True.
The stuff Arc did was change the Order of the world by creating a different universe as the narration describes, reflected in the fact that magecraft formulas and Ether didn't exist so magecraft could not be enacted. This is apparently a major deal. It seems like the ability to ennact magecraft is such a fundamental aspect of the world that it's not something that can ever be changed, no matter what, it will always be present except in this one instance. That's why the narration describes Roa being trapped in a different universe; a different universe of awareness as CCC describes the concept.
Any thoughts?

>>43527762
It's because in Ciel true he gets over Arc and kills himself before he gets a chance to see what he wanted. There's a line from Shiki's perspective when he's approaching Arc's core that says something like this is part of what Roa spent his entire life trying to achieve.

>>43527825
Yeah, he said "even though the opportunity has already been lost, a fragment of his wish has now appeared on the surface of Earth". Which must mean the universe Shiki was seeing is not something that can be observed normally, and seeing it was only made possible because the whole texture became part of Arc's Luminary body due to Event Storage.

>>43525246
To be honest, most people on /a/ only know neko-arc/Alfo and have never read any of the VNs
So its pointless since they can't discuss anything of note.

Can someone explain Roa's intentions better for me? SHIKI hated Shiki because Shiki took away his family birthright. I think that's the simplest way of understanding the tension between them.
I just don't understand Roa's intentions very well. Was it just a ploy for Arc's power, like Nero, or was his intentions more complex. There's a lot of backstory with him and Arc I just don't get quite well because its much scattered in Tsukhime's universe than SHIKI's history. I'm talking about the pre-remake version of events. I haven't played the Remake yet, but its probably different. I want to play it when its completely done so I get the full story of that version of events.
And does Roa take over, instead of SHIKI, simply because his spirit;s will overpowers Shiki instead of SHIKI, or does Shiki's differing actions on that route trigger it?
Also a thought - if Shiki stayed with the Arimas - would anything have changed - would he have never fallen to his demon possession?

Thinking about rereading Tsukihime again

>>43528252
He's the ultimate scholar and socially awkward nerd who doesn't realize he's in love.

>>43525246
Have you seen the fate discussion on /a/?
You don't want schizo like wormfag to read Tsukihime and shit in Tsukihime thread

>混沌
why?

>>43528252
Roa basically:
>Desired eternal life (specifically to observe/record humanity I think since he didn't care about living after all humans are dead)
>In order to achieve his eternal life he wanted to become a dead apostle that reincarnates from a human
>He wishes to use the strongest true ancestor (Arcueid) to become a dead apostle

Then this is where things go wrong for Roa.
>He falls in love after seeing Arcueid, but he doesn't realize this until the very end
>But he unconsciously realizes his desire for eternity was corrupted by some unknown desire (love of Arcueid)
>So this manifests as Roa's "hatred" or obsession over Arcueid. He thinks he wants to return to his pure obsession over eternity so wants to erase Arc.

The ciel route went over it pretty well in the original VN imo.

tl:dr dude fell in love, but never realized it and wanted to return to the state before he fell in love.

>>43529468
What's wrong with chaotic neutral?
Huh, and I wonder why 天敵 in the profile for Mio is Nanaya Kiri, is she part of the Saiki family as well?

>>43529495
she is pretty friendly to shiki overall, but then if mio is truly the panther she also killed shiki so i guess chaotic neutral make sense, it's hard to place her involvement within the story as of now. she is stated to be part of the saiki family, yes but i'm guessing it's a red herring since neither the credits or extra material mention anything about her family name.

>>43529532
It was mercy kill and he offered his neck to her. Alternative that was regenerating behind him was far worse

>>43529686
this is what i assumed too since shiki mentioned that he at least wanted to say thank you to panther-chan, that was some sort of deliverance for him, i guess. but that still doesn't answer the question of why mio (the panther) repeatedly protected him, only to kill him on the spot? it's safe to assume that mio has actually some importance, or connection to shiki, likewise if mio is actually the panther it's probably the same for shiki as well since 1. kid nanaya shiki mentioned something about a cat 2. shiki character profile has 大型の猫 in what he likes. maybe i'm just coping hard but it seems that they have some connection from childhood but then again mio is only 14 meaning that she was 1 (?) after the nanaya massacre, how is she able to remember anything about shiki?

>>43529805
Nasu compared Shiki in remake to Koichi from Babel 2 who got a panther sidekick so there's that. Now I'm just waiting for confirmation that he'll also have a giant robot, like Koichi, in Red Garden

>>43529963
yeah, this is definitely not a coincidence. just add more question as to why someone that is able to transform into a panther would be a childhood friend to a nanaya. there is also the whole theory that rather than just a childhood friend, she is shiki's relative but that create another set of questions but at the same time her character design (especially eyes) is very reminiscent to nanaya shiki. her character is a puzzle, and i love it. the good part about her is that it clearly indicate that the nanaya will get some focus in red garden unlike the original. definitely one of the most interesting addition to the remake in my opinion.

>>43518233
>>43518311
if you start learning japanese today you will be able to read far side route fluently by the time they come out

>>43529468
I like how nonsensical her likes are.

>>43529805
She was definitely doing him a favour because even Shiki admits it allowed him to avoid a more awful death by Arc who was regenerating behind him. In the moments before he died he even said he wanted to thank her, so even her killing him was in a way her protecting him.

>>43529805
>meaning that she was 1 (?) after the nanaya massacre
In the dream in Ciel's route, Nanaya says he's 8 years old and that Tohno is 9, so I think Mio would have been 5.

>>43530468
I still haven't gotten over the concrete.

>>43529805
>repeatedly protected him, only to kill him on the spot?
because there was no Tohno Shiki left to protect there.

Anybody know where I could find raws of the last episode one shot? My japanese is pretty limited in the long run but I tried using all the keywords I could think of while googling to no avail.

>>43531360
The manga one?

>>43531370
Yes, I believe it came out during an anniversary event a few years ago? I'm not exactly sure

>>43531360
https://mega.nz/file/4ktGwb6L#YBrTCCJYjpFIJSQm-fJBnK8tV8SsYMqq_A1h0pFus8A

>>43531512
>a few years ago
it feels like yesterday....

>>43531634
Thanks a lot anon

Why did Lancer do Archer in the butt that one time? Was that really necessary by Nasu? I felt very bothered by it.

>>43531234
True, Eco-Arc indicates that Shiki lost himself and couldn't bear it as well so it was certainly putting Shiki who had lost himself out of his misery. I wonder what Nanaya's alignment would be.
>>43529495
Her eyes look like Nanaya's so she could be his little sister or cousin. Maybe views Kiri as an enemy for getting the clan killed.

>>43531265
Odds that her pendant means something? Or did she just copy some magazine model.

>>43532907
Maybe Altrouge-related. I have absolutely no basis for this though.

>>43532907
Takeuchi just couldn't help himself.

>>43532907
It was a present from me.

>>43532886
Shiki’s sister harem is just too strong…

>>43534037
A biologically imperative kink.

>>43532886
Thoughts on Shiki's new wife?

>>43534336
I find her inclusion as having more potential than the others even though I expected the least from her initially. Since she's sticking around the cast I hope they actually blend her in well so that she doesn't feel out of place. This modern day continuation of her tales is an interesting backdrop and she seems like she could have a place within the Hunter and Oni lore. She also has the imouto factor and the potential for an interesting dynamic with Shiki, Akiha and the Tohno house in general. Enjoying school life is cute and another crazy character interrupting Shiki's normal routine is very Melty Blood.

>>43534336
i don't and will never play the gacha so i don't know much about her characterization but i find interesting how reminiscent of nanaya her movesets is. i thought it would be just a gameplay thing but her lines mentions something like shiki being capable of replicating her moves, and her making reference that shiki got raised in the mountain. not sure if nasu put that much thought when he decided to add her into melty, but they have some interesting points in common.

>>43534782
It has to be intentional. She's not a Nanaya and is using Tengu stuff(Notice the fans and wind) but I guess Shiki's special anatomy would let him recreate a lot of that. He even does some weird movement technique in KT that brings Shukuchi(Tengu educated her) to mind though it's probably different. It's funny she marvels at how light his body is and then suggests trying something as outlandish as clinging to ceilings before realizing it would mean a slip = death. A clear fanservicey reference for OG fans. She also came out of a mountain and has a thing for taking heads so it definitely seems like she's set up to be involved with Tohno/Nanaya.

>>43535004

>>43535008
Built for mountain assassins.

>>43535008
>>43535004
>Sucks mana and sucks my dick
perfect wife!

Hag sweat is sex.

>>43534336
Does her height(168 cm) include the shoes? She weighs almost the same as Shiki despite him being 173 cm. Wondering if it's because of his bones.

>>43534336

Tohno gland is nothing compared to THUNDERCHADCOCK GUDA.

These two are having a harmonic convergence on the catalog. Would they get along?

>Chad
Epitome of average. Minimal characteristics that could be cited as masculine. Geek preferences. Childishly naive. Too fearful to fuck. Horrible case of pink eye. Representative stand-in for otaku.
I guess times have changed.

>>43535547
Woah, he's literally me...

Can Soujyuro kill Servants?

>>43534782
>>43534999
Because she belongs to the Genji clan which was the OG big oni slaying clan in nip history. So Nanaya will likely be an off-shot of that, like a secondary branch thing for sure because Nasu has begun incorporating history. She's not an oni slayer, her ancestor Raikou was.

>>43536671
In the same way that Kuzuki can, yeah.

>>43536671
He’s only good against dogs so no,

>>43534999
The tengu arts she learned from her teacher who is a tengu. She's a member of the Genji clan. Nasu's probably hinting association between Genji and Nanaya which he'll explore later in Red Garden backstory. Maybe it's a maternal bloodline from Genji.

>Arcueid is tall by FSN standard.

>>43536718
>>43536683
I doubt they'd be connected by blood given the Nanaya isolated long enough to produce a different physiology(From ancient times) and the strongest hunters. She also doesn't recognize him as a hunter or Nanaya but they could still have operated together I suppose since the Nanaya were a clan of psychics involved with Oni before they became hunters.

>>43537001
It's hard to say since the Nanaya explicitly existed within the darkest dark. They're basically fucking around in some mountain's dark forest acting as the demons boogeyman only coming out to kill shit. Actually I just realized had Shiki grown up as Nanaya his fate would have been the same as Arc's more or less. No wonder Kiri got shivers when Shiki said he was happy to live and die on the mountain with him. He wanted a different possibility for his son.

>>43527762
The luminous body thing shouldn't be new to Roa, the church stuff vaguely alluded to it too. It's a surprise to Shiki and Ciel for obvious reasons but Roa was alive when there was more than one (two?) True Ancestor so it makes sense that he wouldn't be surprised by it. Arc doesn't get new tricks, just powered up versions of her old stuff. Roa didn't get to see the part that he would have been interested in, but he probably wouldn't even care much by then
>>43525775
any Super Goku would probably tank

>>43539640
>Arc doesn't get new tricks, just powered up versions of her old stuff
This is factually incorrect. When was an ability like Event Storage or the Luminary state ever even implied in the OG material? Let alone Arc having a conceptual universe that carries laws outside the purview of human awareness.
>but he probably wouldn't even care much by then
Maybe because he accepted his death. Otherwise he would have done his damnest to overwrite Shiki's consciousness.

>any Super Goku would probably tank
You can't tank being sent on a voyage to the beginning of the galaxy. Aoko's retrogalaxy is a buffed up version of Goetia's retrograde cannal plan.

>>43527762
Ether is the fifth imaginary element making up the world. Nothing, and I do mean nothing that's actually magical in nature can ever occur without Ether being present to one degree or another. So if Arc can summon a world without Ether it means she indeed summoned a different universe. It'll be like summoning a piece of the DB verse, or JoJo, or Harry Potter; obviously the concept of Ether doesn't exist in those verses.

What the hell? What the fuck is her problem?

>>43540544
イチャイチャ in public is shamefur

>>43540111
>When was an ability like Event Storage or the Luminary state ever even implied in the OG material?
...Why would remake Roa care about what happens in the original. Use context clues I'm talking about normal remake Arc vs Luminous Body, she doesn't really gain a whole truly new ability it's just tuned up versions of shit she already did. Roa's already familiar with most of that so it makes sense he wouldn't be surprised by any of it. Cube, presumably, he's never been hit by before so it's new to him.
>You can't tank being sent on a voyage to the beginning of the galaxy.
If you can tank universal+ stuff you can probably tank something roughly galaxy level as a guess. That's Buu saga scaling.

>>43540611
I thought you meant Arc is using powered up versions of her stuff relative to the OG. My bad.
>If you can tank universal+ stuff
It's not a matter of raw power though. DB characters have never tanked the ability to get sent through time. That's a God-level ability by DBS's standards if you look at Whis' time manipulation, which pales in comparison to Aoko's.

>>43540655
Oh right, that's what that does, forgot. That would beat Goku if she gets it off and he's not allowed to get any outside help. He might still probably blitz outside that though, depending on if you want to let Goku keep feats for moving in stopped time

>>43540544
Another jealous brocon imouto.

>>43540998
if she ever drop into melty after red garden, her existence probably gonna create a war

>>43541485
Mio vs Miyako?

>>43541485
>>43541661
>Akiha
>Miyako
>Mio
I want to see what happens

>>43540756
Doesn't DB have characters that can just wave and wipe out entire universes now?

>>43542241
Got Ushi now too. She seems like she wouldn't know her place, lack common sense and would get on Akiha-sama's nerves.

>>43542963
Only Zenou does that. The most other DBS characters do is destroy mountains.

>>43542936
Only Zenou does that. The most other DBS characters do is destroy mountains.

>>43542963
But Ushi gets along well with Akiha in Melty. Akiha is her Master IIRC.

>>43542999
Yeah but Akiha immediately turns violent when it comes to Shiki and she was worried about their interactions given her dress. So someone lacking common sense with the imouto elements like Ushi seems like a good breeding ground for some comedy.

>>43542992
Doesn't Goku's punches shake universe initially.

>>43543301
equally shit designs

>>43542148
I love Seiba more than anything I am sorry, Hisui

>>43543456

>>43543301
this looks like it came from a chink mmo to be honest

>I-Is that the trolley problem? t? AIEEEEE I'M GOING INSANE! SAVE ME, HOLY GRAIL!

>>43543363
It's Arcs worst design(s). They're overdesigned and the ribbons are silly especially on Hime's dress. The spic space suit is full retard though.

>>43543588
>no bun for saber
I HATE THIS IMAGE

>>43543593
you missed the point, kerry already knows the correct answer to the trolley problem, he just hates the fact that he does

nasu hates utilitarianism