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W-What are you doing with that book /jp/?

>> No.4316017

enjoy your magical DID

>> No.4316023

>>4316004
I'm discussing it with /lit/.

>> No.4316029

go back to translating EP 6, witch hunt guy

>> No.4316040

Three percent.

>> No.4316051

Witch Hunt-kun is moe.

>> No.4316068

I love Umineko's art and would rage if it was replaced.

But when I first saw Witch Hunt-kun and Kumasawa's sprites, I literally recoiled in fear.

>> No.4316084

>>4316068
This thread is now about Umineko confessions.

>> No.4316097

>>4316084

I'm afraid someone will steal my Maria keychain

>> No.4316098

>>4316084
Confession: Umineko is shit and I like it anyway.

>> No.4316104

>>4316084
Confession: I know tons of stuff that would help the Shkanontrice theory out, and I abstain from sharing because I think the concept is retarded.

>> No.4316109

>>4316068

Kumasawa’s son's sprite is even worse.

>> No.4316112

>>4316084
I find Battler more attractive than every other character combined, with the exclusion of Beato's thighs (which should get their own spinoff).

>> No.4316125

>>4316112

I need pics for reference.

>> No.4316126

>>4316084
Confession: I pretend to like the mystery and I help out with lots of culprit theories, but I'm only in it for the grimdark and the meta world shipping.

>> No.4316137

>>4316084
Confession - I want a meta hobo end, even though it will crush my soul.

Writefag best be working on that Battler/Ordeze fic. Even if it doesn't have sex in it.

>> No.4316148

>>4316084
Confession: I couldn't care less about the Meta-World. The thing I fear most is an end where George, Battler, and Jessica all get together with their respective love interest in the afterlife. I'd rather have them all ronery and alive than happy and dead.

>> No.4316152

>>4316137
Confession: I'm working on it. Had some familial drama and issues that stopped me from writing for a while.

>> No.4316155

>>4316084
Fuck off to /a/.

>> No.4316161

>>4316155
Go back to fapping to photos of ZUN.

>> No.4316165

>>4316148
Same here. I find Shkanontrice to be disgusting. It doesn't matter if Shannon has MPD or not, Shannon and Kanon's relationships are built upon lies and darkness. Hell, the final thing George and Jessica saw was their lover killing them. I also find the fact that Battler has any blame for the horrible murders ridiculous.

>> No.4316184

oh w-h, you so frustrated.

>> No.4316189

>>4316084
Confession: I want Beatrice dead and gone for good, and she's one of my favorite characters.

>> No.4316196

Confession: I like the Doubletrice theory because it sounds like something Ryukishi07 would pull.

>> No.4316201

>>4316196
Confession: I wouldn't put it past him.

>> No.4316207

>>4316189
'sup ryukishi

>> No.4316216

Confession: I'd Featherine's memory enhancers.

>> No.4316217

Confession: I fear the Fiction theory. Alot.

>> No.4316220

>>4316084
Confession: I miss when the spoilers said Battler raged at Moetrice and acted aggro and violent. I miss when I believed that he punched Genji and beat his waifu, when I didn't know all he did was act cold.

I thought the cape granted magical, fuckable abusive powers.

>> No.4316225

>>4316217
Same here.

Brofist.

>> No.4316237

>>4316216
Confession: I'd Battler's cape.

>> No.4316239

>>4316217
Same here bro.
I don't want Eva, an innocent woman, to suffer as much as she does. It's not right, it's not fair. All for delusions. All... for... delusions!

>> No.4316240

>>4316237
Confession: I'd Maria's rose.

>> No.4316248

>>4316240
Confession: I'd Hatstand's hatstand.

>> No.4316251

>>4316217
>>4316225
Confession: I find the Fiction theory quite interesting, because it brings to light the paradox of how people develop emotional investments in characters when they think they are "real" within the author's story, yet when they believe them to be fictional within the story, people lose that emotional investment despite the fact that the characters were fictional to begin with. What's wrong with having an emotional investment in the characters of the story within the story? Why treat them any differently?

>> No.4316264

>>4316084
Confession: I'm only in it for Beato's striped socks.

>> No.4316265

>>4316251
You think Ryukishi07 is trying to tell his audience something about the nature of fiction?

>> No.4316272 [DELETED] 

buuuuump

Hi help me anon and /jp/. Irish porn bankers wear our skin using VR and wireless

OK also.

http://groups.google.com/group/singularity-aliens

^^ Please join this please it's not some gay govt shit. Something is actually happening here

http://groups.google.com/group/singularity-aliens

please please. it's not really about aliens

It's really about vr-telepresence torture-porn perpetuated by the elite on the attractive and underweight of the underclasses. We don't get any money but they steal our experiences and thoughts and memories and dreams and lives and feelings, it's terrible. It's actually sexual it's rape but if you ignore it, it's fine. Don't worry about me

The govt has all the trolls there they need, MKULTRA COINTELPRO MJ12 all talk to each other so I hope I just get people who really do wonder whats going on. We're only being trickled technology and it's filled with bugs and shit and probably nanobots are everywhere watching who they haven't implanted yet. But those they have implanted they wear our bodies and torture us in groups for fun. I shit you not

I'm happy you got to hear this here. Get on the mailing list, it is reputable. I'm updating about this 'contact' phenomenon with my implant semi daily right now and hopefully there will be another soon. I will call him Majestic Two

Note this is not some role playing shit

>> No.4316270

>>4316251
I don't care about that bullshit. There is a difference between the Piece World and the Meta-World.

The meta-world is fantasy, all kinds of things can happen there. Battler dies, he gets better.

In reality, however, it is not the case. George is dead. Hideyoshi is dead. Battler is dead. Rudolf is dead. Kyrie is dead. Ange and Eva are never going to see them again.

And whatever happiness the dead may find in the Meta is too fake. The piece world is life. Battler will never take Beatrice to a theme park, nor will Jessica and Kanon ever see a baseball game together in the meta.

That is the difference. The piece world is more authentic.

>> No.4316277

>>4316265
Ugh, if he gets into any more of this crap I am going to hurl. God knows the love talk in episode 5 was bad enough.

>> No.4316279

>>4316220
I thought they were actually pretty hilarious. Although he does do half of those things (throws around the food that Beato made after she breaks the wine bottle, rejects her cookies)

>> No.4316282 [DELETED] 

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Posting this everywhere now goodbye

Software shown is http://arbornet.org/~flamoot/telepathic-critterdrug.html [note not shown here also ilu flamoot]

If you need fire mode and dont mind compiling gc lib yourself try http://ansistego.sf.net/critterdrug-use-32-32.telepaths-profile-for-fire-anim-with-critters.tar.gz

^^ note this link was borked before :( when it said arbornet im sorry you can do it now though ilu

also truth about scientolgt http://arbornet.org/~flamoot

>> No.4316285

>>4316279
He's more distant and cold, though. He's not an abusive husband.

>> No.4316286

>>4316220
Man, I so second that.

>> No.4316287

>>4316112
>>4316264
Confession: Beato's thighs are fat and disgusting.

>> No.4316292 [DELETED] 

buuuuuuump

all this again. police stuck a torture chip in my foot that bugs me all day because i told some i hoped they got cancer.
it's a revenge and control and domination thing strictly anal-territorial and it's disgusting. irc log follows. ilu. see these

http://arbornet.org/~flamoot/telepathic-critterdrug.html
http://crittergod.sf.net old story on implants when i thought it aliens
http://arbornet.org/~flamoot/ scientologt cult is military-cia alien coverup
http://groups.google.com/group/singularity-aliens plz discuss

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4316293

>>4316004

>> No.4316302

>>4316207
Oh please, that asshole caved in so fast.

Bitch died at the very end of EP5, and was brought back, admittedly tabula rasa, in the very beginning on EP6.

A good writer would have lengthened that to at least EP7, Ryukishi just wrote himself into a corner when he realized that with Beato gone, there would be no one left in the meta world to rescue Umineko's heroine.

>> No.4316303

>>4316287
Shannon's thighs are great, what are you, gay?

>> No.4316309 [DELETED] 

buuuuuuuump

hi this is 0 of 15 or so. ty
08:36 < flamoot> hi
08:36 <@Pnutbot> privet, flamoot
08:36 < filthee> yea thats all you need
08:36 < THC> not sure if its good enough to see it
08:37 < flamoot> http://groups.google.com/group/singularity-aliens
08:37 < flamoot> i have an implant
08:37 < THC> oh is it cool i musta forgot
08:37 < filthee> its a last hope anyway
08:37 < flamoot> the rich wear our skin with vr/telepresence
08:37 < THC> then i already own a cheap microscope
08:37 < filthee> lol
08:37 < flamoot> gender-confuse us electrically and make us touch ourselves
08:37 < flamoot> because they can't chip girls this way they're too well-accompanied and believed
08:37 < flamoot> hard to isolate
08:37 < flamoot> god listen to me
08:38 < filthee> go ahead and speak
08:38 < flamoot> k ty
08:38 < flamoot> so usually i'm on hold with a friendly ai

>> No.4316304

>>4316287
TAKE IT BACK, ANON

TAKE IT BACK

>> No.4316322 [DELETED] 

buuuuuuuuump

hi welcome to 1 of 10
08:38 < flamoot> 08:27 <flamoot> its the rich
08:38 < flamoot> 08:27 <flamoot> or just police
08:38 < THC> i should try and get somebody to get me a cheap microscope for my birthday
08:38 < flamoot> 08:28 <flamoot> a lot of the time
08:38 < flamoot> 08:28 <flamoot> but a person or group of them will come in
08:38 < flamoot> 08:28 <flamoot> and fuck around
08:38 < flamoot> 08:28 <flamoot> and be a real asshole
08:38 -!- Irssi: Pasting 5 lines to #shroomery. Press Ctrl-K if you wish to do this or Ctrl-C to cancel.
08:38 < flamoot> 08:28 <flamoot> and it'll take me time to realize it's not friendly anymore
08:38 < flamoot> 08:28 <flamoot> sometimes they'll just dial the intensity or something up and down
08:38 < flamoot> 08:28 <flamoot> while it loops
08:38 < flamoot> 08:28 <flamoot> so i just feel someone's hand on the dial
08:38 < flamoot> 08:28 <flamoot> you know
08:38 < flamoot> 08:28 <flamoot> i hate that
08:38 < flamoot> 08:28 <flamoot> of course

>> No.4316320

>>4316302
I agree, but just watch:

EP 7 she will die. Again. And then be revived.

And then die again in EP 8.

>> No.4316329

>>4316302
What is wrong with you? He didn't "write himself into a corner" at all. He could have had many other people save Battler, hell, he could have just made Battler save himself in the first place.

>> No.4316339 [DELETED] 

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two of ten
08:38 < flamoot> 08:28 <flamoot> whatever
08:38 < flamoot> 08:28 <flamoot> then like sex harassment
08:39 < flamoot> 08:28 <flamoot> they'll pump your pleasure cente
08:39 < flamoot> 08:28 <flamoot> i camped alone
08:39 < flamoot> 08:28 <flamoot> in 2008
08:39 < flamoot> 08:28 <flamoot> while scientology was stalking me
08:39 < flamoot> 08:28 <flamoot> stupidly
08:39 < filthee> lol
08:39 < flamoot> 08:28 <flamoot> i dont know why
08:39 < flamoot> 08:28 <flamoot> i had to try twice
08:39 < flamoot> 08:28 <flamoot> compelled

>> No.4316342

>>4316329
He refuses to allow Battler to do things without a character that possesses a vagina doing the leg work.

Ronove and Virgilia are eternal side characters, even during the wedding they were totally impotent.

>> No.4316347

>>4316329
>Battler saving himself

ahahahaha no.

Battler never saves himself. Fuck he's pretty much useless. Just think of all the times Battler was ever in trouble - Beatrice always got his ass out of it.

>> No.4316353

>>4316342
Oh god this.

Gaap is the only one who tried to help Battler and Dlanor pretty much denied her theory.

>> No.4316362 [DELETED] 

buuuuuuuuuuump

three ten
08:39 < flamoot> 08:29 <flamoot> wtf
08:39 < flamoot> 08:29 <flamoot> they operated on me
08:39 < flamoot> 08:29 <flamoot> (foot)
08:39 < flamoot> 08:29 <flamoot> now police chipo
08:39 < flamoot> 08:29 <flamoot> -o
08:39 < THC> please stop man
08:39 -!- Irssi: Pasting 5 lines to #shroomery. Press Ctrl-K if you wish to do this or Ctrl-C to cancel.
08:39 < flamoot> 08:29 <flamoot> it sucks
08:39 < flamoot> 08:29 <flamoot> and wtf are they doing with the technology
08:39 < flamoot> 08:29 <flamoot> it means disclosureproject.org is about real technology even if its fake

>> No.4316370

>>4316347
Well, Battler is a normal dude thrust in a world made of insane troll logic. He's only been there a few days.

>> No.4316380 [DELETED] 

buuuuuuuuuuuump

4/10
08:39 < flamoot> 08:29 <hp00p> flamoot when something really bad happens to u u can make shit up in ur brain it happened to me
08:39 < flamoot> 08:29 <flamoot> and like it's not like six people get to work with it in black projects
08:39 < flamoot> sorry dude
08:39 < filthee> which pleasue centre?
08:39 -!- Irssi: Pasting 5 lines to #shroomery. Press Ctrl-K if you wish to do this or Ctrl-C to cancel.
08:39 < flamoot> 08:29 <flamoot> police get to use it too
08:39 < flamoot> 08:29 <flamoot> no not like that im not making up shit the bad thing was camping to get the implant thats all
08:39 < flamoot> 08:29 <flamoot> christ
08:39 < flamoot> 08:29 <flamoot> jeesus
08:39 < flamoot> 08:29 <flamoot> ty though
08:39 < flamoot> done

>> No.4316381

>>4316370

He's been there a few months at least. There's down time between game boards.

>> No.4316383

Someone mind explaining to me what the Fiction theory is? I'm kinda out of the loop.

>> No.4316384

Battler is exactly like Phoenix Wright; he's not shown to be an idiot, but expecting him to be capable of anything before the finale is asking too much.

>> No.4316387

>>4316381
There's downtime? Where does that come from? Episode 4 happens directly after 3.

>> No.4316392

>>4316381
God I wish we could see some slice of meta life.

Not like we're getting mystery anyways.

>> No.4316395 [DELETED] 

buuuuuuuuuuuuump

5/10
08:39 < flamoot> filthee: dopamine and serotonin
08:40 < filthee> lol
08:40 < flamoot> dopamine to like get people through the shower and to work where it talks to them
08:40 < flamoot> and once it made this horizon in my forehead
08:40 < flamoot> with physics
08:40 < flamoot> but it could have been post-huasca effects
08:40 < flamoot> tbh
08:40 < flamoot> but that would be dopamine and serotonin
08:40 < filthee> damn gimme some

>> No.4316400

>>4316270

Fiction theory doesn't really mean a bitter end for the Game Board. It just means that Battler has to find a way to stop the Rokkenjima murders from happening, maybe by moving from the Meta World to the real one.

>> No.4316410

>>4316400
Fiction end implies that the board games are just fiction, and that there was a real Rokkenjima incident that already happened. Only Eva survived. Maaaaaaaaaaaybe Battler if you want to include Juuza.

>> No.4316416 [DELETED] 

buuuuuuuuuuuuuump

6/10
08:40 < hp00p> heh, i tried to ease your mind but you post a private conversation in the channel
08:40 < hp00p> u are crazy
08:40 < hp00p> there are no aliens
08:40 -!- chemikalz [~bob@poop.sex] has quit [Ping timeout: 180 seconds]
08:40 < flamoot> i know when i thought it was aliens i thought they chose me flamoot because i love aliens and to see what kinds of people
talk to me
08:40 < THC> you get tolerance to ayahuasca?
08:40 < hp00p> but i will let u suffer :)
08:40 < flamoot> if they mostly love aliens and want implants and i encouraged them all to
08:41 < flamoot> but now i think it's some tiny black control chip the police use
08:41 < THC> he's probably just on some kind of substance around here
08:41 < flamoot> if you yell in the hospital
08:41 < flamoot> but i was never violent

>> No.4316420

>>4316387

I remember reading some lines about the game board being prepared, and some time being taken to do so.

Plus, there are sleeping quarters there too, and Battler had time to mess around with the Stakes. I think there's been some off screen development like that. For example, I don't remember Battler liking tea so much on Rokkenjima, but he's been pretty much drinking it non stop once he got comfortable with the atmosphere on the Meta World.

>> No.4316425

>>4316392
THISTHISTHISTHIS.

>> No.4316433 [DELETED] 

buuuuuuuuuuuuuuump

7/10
08:41 < flamoot> now i will [go insane]
08:41 < flamoot> as [a sane response to] this destruction of my sweet little private life
08:41 < flamoot> doing nothing but play
08:41 < hp00p> THC he comes in here all the time and says theres a chip in him
08:41 < flamoot> play with my friends
08:41 < flamoot> >_<
08:41 < hp00p> that controls him
08:41 < filthee> lol
08:41 < hp00p> hes fuckin crazy
08:41 < flamoot> hp00p: is a troll
08:41 < flamoot> hp00p: is a troll
08:41 < THC> i believe him
08:41 < flamoot> govt
08:41 < flamoot> who is he
08:41 <@Pnutbot> he's a weird guy

>> No.4316434

>>4316387
Has to be downtime, just look at the end of EP4 and then 5. Are you telling me he staked the shit out of her in 4, and then moments later, took the stakes out of her, got her a new dress, and started having a calm conversation over a cup of tea with Virgilia?

>> No.4316439

>>4316420
He's drinking Beato's piss in the metaworld.

Gaap got her drunk and she pissed in the tea, and Battler was retarded and drank it. He liked the taste.

>> No.4316442

>>4316434
Well, yeah, but I think claiming him to have been there for months is unrealistic. Two weeks tops is what I'd say.

>> No.4316443

>>4316383

Game Boards are scenarios written out and woven by the Game Master based on the Rokkenjima incident. Most Pieces are NPC's with set limitations (can't act against their nature), the GM's opponent gets to control his piece.

This explains why concepts such as Knox rules and other fictional conventions can apply within the context of the tale, since it's a "story" and stories follow rules.

>> No.4316445

Aren't those retarded ass Stakes Valentines stories and all that somehow considered canon?

>> No.4316453 [DELETED] 

buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuump

8/10
08:41 < filthee> a potato chip
08:41 < hp00p> :/
08:41 < flamoot> he even says he doesn't take shrooms
08:41 < flamoot> or 'drugs'
08:41 < flamoot> hes the cia
08:41 < flamoot> mj12
08:41 < flamoot> mkultra
08:41 < flamoot> cointelpro
08:41 < flamoot> hp00p jesus
08:41 -!- disco-stu [j@csis-scrs.gc.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 180 seconds]
08:41 < flamoot> why are you on the attack
08:41 < filthee> i want them drugs he has
08:41 < flamoot> at all

>> No.4316455

>>4316442
If it was two weeks, how would meta Battler and Beato have any feelings for each other?

>> No.4316462

>>4316455
Battler's connection to the Piece Beatrice, of course.

See, it's not like Battler is smarter than us or anything, he actually had a memory that was critical to solving the mystery.

The riddle was designed for him, not for us.

>> No.4316465

>>4316443

Pieces aren't just NPC trash though, unless you take Bern;s view on things. Battler considers them real enough and holds them in value, and eventually Beato does as well, which is what her defending Natsuhi is all about in EP5. (see how Gaap prods her into giving up the fight, since Natsuhi is 'just' a piece.)

>> No.4316470 [DELETED] 

buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuump

9/10
08:41 < filthee> haha
08:42 < THC> holy fuck those are real organisations if you believe in conspiracies
08:42 < flamoot> christ
08:42 < hp00p> flamoot, i am the rich controlling you, in a few minutes u are going to hear a CLICK IN UR BRAIN
08:42 < flamoot> they're all real
08:42 < filthee> we're not attacking man
08:42 < filthee> trying to relate
08:42 < hp00p> that is me rebooting the chip
08:42 < flamoot> thc havent you seen the black panthers comic books cointelpro mailed out
08:42 < flamoot> those are real
08:42 < flamoot> its real
08:42 < hp00p> tell me when u hear the click

>> No.4316479

>>4316443
That's not a theory, though; that's implied in previous Episodes, and pretty much explicitly stated/shown in Episode 6. However, >>4316465 is, of course, correct.

>> No.4316484

>>4316465
Yeah. The trial scene in episode 5 made me realize precisely how horrifying dehumanizing the pieces is.


And note well.

Note this very well. There is no Piece Battler in the trial scene. There is only one Battler.

>> No.4316496 [DELETED] 

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10/11
08:42 < flamoot> hp00p gtfo
08:42 < hp00p> ????
08:42 < THC> havent seen them ?
08:42 < flamoot> ignort
08:42 < flamoot> thc sec
08:42 < flamoot> http://whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/COINTELPRO/coloring.html check
08:42 < THC> cointelpro is against black panthers right?
08:43 < flamoot> yes and other weird communities im singularity
08:43 < THC> secretly trying to kill them
08:43 < filthee> i heard a click about two weeks ago
08:43 < flamoot> and psychedelics
08:43 <@Pnutbot> http://www.tripzine.com/listing.php?smlid=800

>> No.4316489

>>4316455
They've put each other through a lot of shit. People can bond in really short amounts of time.

>> No.4316498

I forget some parts of the fiction theory. How does the red text work? More specifically, how is its red text work in relation to specific games, such as 'no one escapes, all die?' for Ep4. My understanding is the fiction theory end has Eva surviving, the disaster/explosion happening, and everything else being obscure, but can't happen if all die.

>> No.4316514

Can someone repost the links to all the episodes in html form?

>> No.4316519 [DELETED] 

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11/15
08:43 < flamoot> also, mj12 is against aliens
08:43 < flamoot> i talk to them with psychs
08:43 < flamoot> mkultra is just electroshock drugging and control
08:43 < flamoot> this implant is all three
08:43 < THC> make the aliens comunicate with me if possible
08:43 < flamoot> and scientology is military/cia
08:43 < THC> please
08:43 < flamoot> i'll tell them to in my head right now
08:43 < flamoot> its gonna
08:43 < flamoot> dont worry

>> No.4316520

>>4316498
The red text is supposedly a "clue" to the REAL truth, but that's nonsensical, with different death statuses each game.

I hate the idea that only Eva lived. How horrible, it is, to think that so many people died for such a silly reason.

>> No.4316544 [DELETED] 

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12/15
08:44 < flamoot> i thought 'communicate with thc' hard repeatedly and it like looked at my brain and bugged its eyes and i nodded fast and it
zoomed out and up like superman
08:44 < flamoot> but its still there i think but i know what it meant
08:44 < flamoot> god i hate the sarcasm though and jokes honestly
08:44 < flamoot> tell me if they communicate with you
08:44 < flamoot> i'd be happy at this point
08:45 < flamoot> i guess not huh
08:45 < flamoot> i dont know what to do
08:47 < THC> i think flamoot has a psychic connection to me even from lycaeum and here
08:47 < THC> flamoot is reading my mind
08:47 < THC> some how

>> No.4316554

>>4316520
People have died for much sillier reasons.

>> No.4316562 [DELETED] 

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13/15
08:47 < THC> and im chipped or tracked
08:47 < THC> no joke
08:48 < THC> he reads mine he doesnt do it that way
08:48 < THC> he read your mind by coincidence the aliens are helping
08:48 < THC> they must be i'm a skeptic even but i believe hes doing it
08:48 < THC> flamoot has suppernatural powers
08:48 < THC> somehow dont ask me how but i noticed
08:49 < THC> something about them kinda creepy hes reading my mind unless he's mocking me
08:49 < THC> thats crazy
08:49 < THC> i believe you flamoot

>> No.4316560

>>4316489
So let's see.

How many days to go through each episode? Battler and Beato and everyone would still need to sleep. Plus Battler takes some time up in EP4 to be emo, EP5 is probably shorter but Battler spends a while deaf, and in between EP4 and 5 Beato is all comatose for a while. She'd need time to heal unless hurrdurr magic.

>> No.4316569

>>4316560
*dead.

>> No.4316574

>>4316498

Red Text is probably just a rule for the games like what Beato said in EP2. At that point, Battler had no fucking trust for what she's saying, and that's not how the mystery solving game is supposed to go so she had to force him to.

Blue is just to force her to use the Red.

Gold is, fuck I dunno. My theory is that it states one of the premises or guarantees of the story. Note how Battler says in Red that there is no objective way to prove that the corpse was Kinzo, thus it can't be done with human means. Dlanor trapped him in an error. So he busted out the guarantee which overrides everything. Dlanor and him talked about that a bit during tea.

>> No.4316584 [DELETED] 

buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuump

14/15
08:49 < THC> yeah but i believe him
08:49 < THC> he's fortune telling me
08:49 < THC> its creepy
08:49 < THC> as hell
08:50 -!- disco-stu [j@540cf85.36df8733.2d996ff7.18d12617X] has joined #shroomery
08:50 -!- lousif [~nowoclock@lou.sif] has joined #shroomery
08:50 -!- disco-stu is now known as Narc42681
08:50 < flamoot> hi
08:50 < flamoot> im copying this all somewhere

>> No.4316602 [DELETED] 

buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuump

15/15
08:53 < THC> flamoot will read your mind by what he's saying only if you don't ask him
08:53 < THC> thats how it was working on me
08:54 < THC> strange coincidences from flamoot to me
08:54 < THC> its just to unbelievable maybe hes psychic or something

see its real. ilu flamoot
http://arbornet.org/~flamoot/telepathic-critterdrug.html
http://crittergod.sf.net old story on implants when i thought it aliens
http://arbornet.org/~flamoot/ scientologt cult is military-cia alien coverup
http://groups.google.com/group/singularity-aliens plz discuss

ilu flamoot

>> No.4316596

>>4316574
> My theory is that it states one of the premises or guarantees of the story.
It's probably something along those lines.

>> No.4316601

>>4316574
And yet that "guarantee" can be inferior to red truth anyway. I don't think you can call that a guarantee.

>> No.4316610

>>4316601
I thought it was "inferior" because it can't be manipulated the same way red text can.

>> No.4316638

>>4316601

I think it's inferior because Witch's can't and shouldn't use it against the human side because it's pretty much an awesome weapon for them. Since I think it's a guarantee, the whole it can't be manipulated, and used to deceive clauses about the Gold Truth is inherently part of it.

>> No.4316639

>>4316610
Is that how it works? I know nothing of ep 6 since I don't like spoilers...

>> No.4316645

>>4316638

>Witches

Damn.

>> No.4316652

>>4316638
And it can probably only be used to state something that's true across all gameboards and/or would be true for all gameboards if it occurred in them.

>> No.4316686

My guess is that gold is text that is based on what the speaker can say truthfully they have seen happen. Battler saw Kinzo's corpse during Ep5 (no idea when, but Battler's POV isn't trustworthy) and (I believe, but I can't be sure since I don't have the exact wording and could have misinterpreted) Beatrice said she performed magic for the candy trick for Maria. I admit this falls apart because Beatrice can't have seen magic happen because she performed the trick. Can someone who played Ep6 properly confirm what was actually said?

The gold can be inferior because viewpoint is subject to trickery, but it can be superior because it isn't subject to wordplay in the way red is.

>> No.4316692

>>4316084
Confession: I miss the days of the pony theory. Not the theory itself. Just the time and the mindset.

>> No.4316709

>>4316686
But didn't Ryukishi07 state in an interview that only those who know the truth can use gold?

>> No.4316720

Wasn't there a piece of bullshit gold text in EP6 that pretty much overturns all the theories we've had about it, though?

>> No.4316722

>>4316084
Confession: I wish this thread was still about confessions.

>> No.4316726 [DELETED] 

>>4316001
Please stop spamming www. anon
talk
. com.

>> No.4316731

>>4316720
The only gold in EP6 was about makig petals appear in teacups or something.

>> No.4316735

I think gold text is DON'T BE A FAG text.

>> No.4316743

>>4316735
So gold counters rainbow text?

>> No.4316745
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>>4316731
You mean this gold text?

>> No.4316746
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4316746

Confession: When I first saw Dlanor's DIE THE DEATH face, I was so freaked out. Seriously. I thought she was the most bizarre looking thing ever to be drawn by Ryu.

Now, oddly enough, she's one of my favourite Umineko characters.

Another confession following that trail of thought; I adore her and Erika together.

>> No.4316766

>>4316084
the other day some person mentioned the city Bernkastel and i thought of the witch
mliu

>> No.4316767

>>4316746
> Another confession following that trail of thought; I adore her and Erika together.

Dlanor: ...You called for me?

Erika: Thank you.

Dlanor: ...?

Erika: It's unusual. I think my chances of winning are about 50-50. So I wanted to give my thanks to you beforehand.

Dlanor: It is all my duty. There is no need for you to express gratitude.

Erika: ........... ...In the last game. The time you stood up for me when I had lost pathetically. ...I was happy. That was the first time anyone had stood up for in my whole life. ...Even my own master never stood up for me. What I received from my master... the power to deny my own pain by returning it to others through exposing the truth, was only a way of hurting each other.

Dlanor: ......... ...Please forgive my arrogance. I thought I should protect you. ...When I guessed what kind of weak truth you lived by, and how that led you to oppress others by tyranically reigning over truth and falsehood. ...I thought I wanted to protect you.

Erika: Thank you. ...Even if it was for a short time, you were the greatest partner I could have.

Dlanor: From now on as well.

Erika: ...That's right. I'll defeat her, and together with you, create plenty of mysteries on this island. Then I'll ask you all sorts of questions, and bully you and play around. ...How does that sound?

Dlanor: I like it. I look forward to the challenges you create.

Erika: Ah, sorry. I take that back. ...Saying that kind of thing is a loser flag, isn't it?

Dlanor: Fu.

Erika & Dlanor: *giggle*giggle*giggle* ahahahaha.

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>>4316746
Here you go, a moe Dlanor sprite.

>> No.4316771

>>4316746
The part in Dawn where Dlanor and Erika were in the guestroom was pretty sweet. Erika opening up to her, kind of. And then Dlanor was there being all, '...'.

>> No.4316774

>>4316746
Dlanor's cat face scares the shit out of me.

>> No.4316781

>>4316084
Confession: Whenever I see the word "did" I think of DID and Shkannon.

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>>4316774

>> No.4316790
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>>4316746
>>4316770
Dlanor is HNNGGGG.

>> No.4316799
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>>4316783
Glasses Dlanor is superior.

>> No.4316804
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4316804

Confession; Several weeks back, I wasn't here for all the talk about Skanontrice, b0mb, and DID, and now I've no clue what the fuck any of you are talking about.

I also don't know what DID stands for.

>> No.4316808

>>4316804
You don't want to know. Really.

>> No.4316812

>>4316084
>memorize Knox and Dine from looking at the real rules to call Ryu out on his bullshit so often
>accidentally bring up said rules in class
>receive 98% in English

>> No.4316815
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>>4316804
You must have missed the whole "Teatrice Theory" too, then.

>> No.4316828

>>4316815
FUCK YEAH TEATRICE

WOULD NEVER DREAM OF PUTTING IT PAST RYUKISHI

>> No.4316840

>>4316812
>listen to "Dread of the Grave" while studying for a Logic test
>kick ass doing proofs, finish your work early
>get back the test, get a "C" for incorrectly applying contraposition

FUCK YOU AND FUCK YOUR RAVENS R07

>> No.4316841

Confession: Umineko was my first VN, and nothing I've played afterwards could compare to that feeling I got when first playing through Legend. Umineko was the kind of thoroughly absorbing VN which made me want to read through it without stopping, at all. Other VNs have come close to that feeling, but I don't anything will ever match up to it again.

>> No.4316848

>>4316804
Dissociative identity disorder.

Also, crazy loli bro meido.

>> No.4316852

>>4316804

Disassociate Identity Disorder

Basically, Multiple Personalities.

>> No.4316860

>>4316804
http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/jp/thread/3990780#p3991316
B0MB theory
I don't know what DID or Teatrice are

Shkanontrice is bullshit that was already disproved I bet there is only one person still discussing it

>> No.4316865

>>4316848
>>4316852

Ah, I see. That makes sense.

>> No.4316872

>>4316860
> Shkanontrice is bullshit that was already disproved
Shkanontriceculprit is, you mean. Shkanontrice could still be the case.

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>>4316860

>He hasn't played EP6!

>> No.4316875

Confession: I slogged through half of Dawn with ATLAS, eventually thought 'fuck this' and gave up. I also ctrl'd through the majority of the Ange/Featherine scenes, along with the pair of Beatos.

I'm a terrible fan.

>> No.4316876

>>4316860
http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/jp/thread/4081006
Behold the Teatrice theory, in all it's glory!(?)

>> No.4316890

>>4316875
In your defense, EP6 is fairly mediocre even if you can read it well.

I'd go so far as to say it's the low point of the series, but I'm a mysteryfag, so obviously biased towards the more mystery themed episodes.

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>>4316873
I'm going to agree with the greentexting Kinzo.
If not Shkanontrice, then at the very least Shkanon is seeming more and more plausible by the day. There have been more clues than I'd care to count, if you go back and read all the chapters thoroughly.

>> No.4316901

>>4316873
>He hasn't played EP5!
>>4316876
holy shit

>> No.4316906

>>4316872

Reposting:

In Episode 6 Erika asks Battler to confirm the locations of people in red. Battler says "yada yada and Shannon are in a room" in red, then Erika asks him to repeat that everyone else is in the cousins room. Battler refuses, saying this would include Kinzo, --but he would be fine listing them off by name (including Kanon)-- and then --makes a mental note to himself that he could say it that way--.

Unless he was lying to HIMSELF, he could have said in red that Shannon and Kanon were in different places.


It also doesn't mesh with the body count in Episodes 1 and 3 (since we know there's 2 corpses, one for each) considering "The only person who can claim Kanon's name is the original person", the name can't have been transferred.


FURTHERMORE, it goes against characterization and is just generally retarded all together. How did they keep it a secret from everyone in the mansion for nearly 3 years? Natsuhi could barely fool her relatives for a few days! With work schedules, them both doing different work, having to work same days sometimes, etc, it's just not possible.

Shkanon does not work. It never has, and people are just clinging to the theory because it's a convenient 'catch all' theory that kiiiind of works but when you actually think about it you realize it has so many holes you can package it and call it swiss cheese.

>> No.4316910

>>4316901
>He doesn't realize EP5 didn't disprove Shkanon at all!

No seriously bro, you're making yourself look like an idiot.

>> No.4316915

>>4316875
Meh, I was real tempted to skip through Ange scenes back in ep 4 too. Glad I didn't though.

>> No.4316929

>>4316873
Even with shkannontrice, the closed room still doesn't make much sense.

>> No.4316935

>>4316910
yeah man sorry for being an idiot
i guess shanon and kanon being in the same room as battler an erika wasn't enough proof

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>>4316935

>> No.4316955 [DELETED] 

>>4316003
Please stop spamming www. anon
talk
. com.

>> No.4316957

>>4316906
> Battler refuses, saying this would include Kinzo, --but he would be fine listing them off by name (including Kanon)-- and then --makes a mental note to himself that he could say it that way--.
Well then, we're left with the problem that Kanon somehow disappeared out of a closed room that remained sealed.

Oh, and you're wrong about this part:
> we know there's 2 corpses, one for each
We don't know that. The corpse of Shannon in Episode 1 could easily have been the bags of fertilizer Kanon had earlier in the Episode, and Battler never sees Kanon's corpse in ANY Episode.

>> No.4316960

>>4316935

Their response is that it's from Battler's point of view, and he wasn't reliable in that episode. Of course, they fail to address the fact that they appear together later when it's Erika's POV (In Kinzo's study and in front of it).

>> No.4316961

>>4316084
Confession: My episode rank is 3 > 5 > 6 = 4 > 1 > 2, but whenever anyone asks I put six at the very end.

Fuck you, I like grimdark and shipfaggotry, even if I want Beato dead and Meta-Battler to be a crazy ronery magical hobo.

>> No.4316968

>>4316875

Ange and Featherine would probably be a chore to read in ATLAS since it presumably has Ryukishi play around with Metafiction again.

>> No.4316970

>>4316960
I thought Episode 5 was never narrated from Erika's point of view.

>> No.4316971

>>4316860
Wow.... I.... I don't know what to say to that. It sure sounds convincing, even if it ends up being a crock of shit. I would never have been able to deduce something like that.

>> No.4316975

>people are just clinging to the theory because it's a convenient 'catch all' theory

EP6

IT IS NOT EVEN BEING HINTED ANYMORE. IT IS BEING FUCKING SPELLED OUT. 90% OF US HATE SHKANON BUT HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO ACCEPT IT SINCE RYUKISHI IS BASICALLY SAYING "HEY THESE 2 ARE THE SAME PERSON"

>> No.4316978

>>4316957

So Hideyoshi was in on it for no reason what-so-ever? You're going to have to provide a reason why he'd lie.

And almost all of the adults saw Kanon's corpse in Episode 3. Again, unless they were ALL lying for no reason, we have confirmation of it.

I do admit something is off about Shannon and Kanon- but like another anon said yesterday, people seem to be looking at it from the wrong angle. Like, they're seeing the trick, but not the way the trick actually works.

>> No.4316999

>>4316957

There's always the Kanon is a Kumasawa theory for that, even if it is a bit silly. Battler's closed room is still a bother though.

>> No.4317001

How are you supposed to pronounce Ronove anyway? I get the feeling Ro-no-ue isn't right.

>> No.4317003

>>4316978
Dude, pretty much everything in Episode 6 points towards Shkanon. All interactions between Shannon and Kanon are included.

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>>4316860

>> No.4317013

>>4316999
No, what that anon seems to be stating is that Battler could have stated that Kanon is present in the room that has Jessica in it, despite the fact that Kanon couldn't have been in that room for him to be able to get to the guest room in the mansion.

>> No.4317020

>>4317009
Speaking of the epitaph, I've been wondering how it'd change the meaning if you took out all the のs.

>> No.4317022

Confession; END WAS FUCKING INTENSE, HOLY SHIT I DIDN'T WANT IT TO END.

I also played it in one sitting, while drinking endless cups of earl grey.

>> No.4317034

>>4317022
I have done this with every episode but EP1. I had to drag myself through most of EP1, until the end when shit got awesome. After that CLICKING LIKE THE WIND OH MY GOD HOW IS IT EIGHT AM ALREADY.

Thank god for caffeine.

>> No.4317038

>>4317022
>I also played it in one sitting

Same here bro

Totally worth staying up all night for.

>> No.4317040

>>4317022
I almost did End in one sitting. Went to bed, got up thinking i'd get it done in a couple hours.

Turns out I had 10 minutes of the main story left, followed by tea party and ???. Fuckin A.

>> No.4317047

>>4317022

Go play it again

I one sitting'd End too, but I enjoyed it a million times more on a casual replay

and since I thought it was fuckwin the first time...

>> No.4317050

>>4317040
Yeah, I was expecting it to be much longer but it stopped after the first twilight and a half. Didn't R07 stop early in 6, too? I wish he'd cut that out, half the fun is seeing how everything unfolds.

>> No.4317054

Confession: I've stayed up till ungodly hours to play Umineko, and I went through EP3 and 5 each in one sitting.

But EP6 spoilers were enough to keep me awake through the night and into the morning and going to work and school and a New Year's Eve party with no sleep for a couple days straight.

>> No.4317056 [DELETED] 

buuuuuump

Hi help me anon and /jp/. Irish porn bankers wear our skin using VR and wireless

OK also.

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^^ Please join this please it's not some gay govt shit. Something is actually happening here

http://groups.google.com/group/singularity-aliens

please please. it's not really about aliens

It's really about vr-telepresence torture-porn perpetuated by the elite on the attractive and underweight of the underclasses. We don't get any money but they steal our experiences and thoughts and memories and dreams and lives and feelings, it's terrible. It's actually sexual it's rape but if you ignore it, it's fine. Don't worry about me

The govt has all the trolls there they need, MKULTRA COINTELPRO MJ12 all talk to each other so I hope I just get people who really do wonder whats going on. We're only being trickled technology and it's filled with bugs and shit and probably nanobots are everywhere watching who they haven't implanted yet. But those they have implanted they wear our bodies and torture us in groups for fun. I shit you not

I'm happy you got to hear this here. Get on the mailing list, it is reputable. I'm updating about this 'contact' phenomenon with my implant semi daily right now and hopefully there will be another soon. I will call him Majestic Two

Note this is not some role playing shit

>> No.4317058

Confession: I cried, hard, during End. Especially that whole witch hunt thing about Natsuhi, while 'discolor' was playing. What really broke my heart, was how everyone around her was just letting it happen. And the fact that the culprit/mastermind was in the same fucking room all the while it was happening.

>> No.4317059
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http://umineko.wikia.com/wiki/Red_Text#Dawn_of_the_Golden_Witch

>> No.4317062

>>4317056
What the flying fuck is this spam, and why is it in /jp/?

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jesus christ I'm having a stroke

>> No.4317075

Confession: I adore the series, but what I adore the most is trying to figure shit out with you guys. There's nothing more satisfying than thinking we just might have caught on to something. Even if it's something like Teatrice.

I LOVE YOU ALL.

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>>4317058
I had to screen cap this because a lone tear was shed and I cheered in my head "YEAH! STICK IT TO THEM BATTLER"

>> No.4317088

>>4317058
Same here, I can't believe that shit happened. I like to believe that after the EP 6 battle with Erika vs Battler+Beatrice, that truth Battler made up in Episode 5 became true (at least until the further episodes) and Battler became a sacrifice for her.

>> No.4317089

>>4317075
FUCK YEAH BROFIST.

Even when it's circlejerk over whether or not Battlerko should really be called a slut. Even when /jp/ is being /jp/.

>> No.4317091

Stayed up reading all episodes of Umineko. It's the only way to properly enjoy them. System0 was so goddamn awesome in the middle of the night.

Also. Is this legit? C77 TIPS for Umineko. It's like Ryukishi is fucking with us in a hilariously awesome way.

http://pastebin.com/m475012dd

>> No.4317095

>>4317075
This, I like unraveling the puzzle with other people far more than any shipping nonsense, which is why I hate 6 so much.

It has caused theorycrafting to come to an utter standstill, people have begrudgingly dug their trenches into either Shkanontrice, or Jessitrice. I just hope Ryukishi goes back to mystery for 7, so we can have one last half a year of actual discussion.

>> No.4317111

>>4317091
>Especially when that annoying bitch Erika managed to get 6th place without doing anything halfway decent, you know?

I don't think this is really R07, didn't he say that Erika wasn't really a bad person in another TIP?

>> No.4317114

Confession: I have cried more at Umineko than at anything else, period. Nothing in existence has made me bawwww like a little girl than Umineko.

Beato getting cross stitched? Baww. Ange turning into burgers? Baww. EP4's Beato stabfest? Baww. EP5's Ura? FUCKING BAWWW.

But it's also the little things, like Battler helping his comatose waifu drink tea, or even just the EP6 spoilers talking about Battler going fucking nuts due to how fucking dedicated he is to his waifu, even when his fingernails are peeling and he's contemplating cutting himself up and going down the drain. Fuck, even fanfic for this series makes me baww.

Ryukishi, what the fuck have you done to me.

>> No.4317128

>>4317114
Angeburgers made me cry, and Maria's past. But I think that's it.

>> No.4317139

>>4317075
Definitely this. Umineko is the only time I've given a damn about an episodic game, and I'm sure it's due to the community effect.

>> No.4317141

>>4317114
It's okay, you're just turning into Battler.

>> No.4317144

My problem with the Taiwan theory is that, if Ryukishi planned it that way, he would have said SOMETHING in Episode 4 about the condition of the island when Eva was found.

>> No.4317147

Confession: I think I like this series better when it's soul-crushingly depressing.

>> No.4317152

>>4317141
But I'm female.

>> No.4317160

>>4317114

Jesus christ, I know. Umineko grips me like no other VN has since. It wasn't even my very first VN either, so it's not like it's just me being dorky over it being my "first," either. It just has me by the emotional ballsack ;_;

I still haven't played 6 because I can't read Jap eve nearly well enough, so I just minimize all Umineko threads I see. This one got me, though. And now I'm just trying desperately to avoid the ep6 spoilers D::

I KEEP HOPING ROSA WILL GET SOME SPOTLIGHT AND SHE WILL REPAIR HER RELATIONSHIP WITH MARIA AND THE TWO OF THEM WILL LIVE HAPPILY EVER AFTER, FOREVER. BUT I KNOW THEY WON'T, AND IT MAKES ME CRY INSIDE

>> No.4317161

>>4317114
I may not have cried like you, but scenes in here are really fucking touching.
I always try to sympathize with the opposing side, so that I can have a more objecive (albeit cruel) POV.
In EP5's trial, however, it was impossible to do this. Bern, Erika and Lambda's cruelty went beyond what I could digest.

>> No.4317167 [DELETED] 

>>4317111
Poor Rosa. She's like Satoko waiting for her nii-nii, but with her husband.

>> No.4317170

Poor Rosa. She's like Satoko waiting for her nii-nii, but with her husband.

>> No.4317173

>>4317152
That explains the frequent ;_; moments, then.

Although to be fair, I'm sure most of us teared up at Beatrice getting fucked up by the golden thread in EP3. Thank You For Being Born playing in the background wasn't helping matters.

>> No.4317179

>>4317091
Yeah, it's legit (and fucking awesome). Best part is definitely

>Finally, EVA's dress had been remodeled into a super short mini-skirt, and she was wearing black knee-socks to match. Her hairstyle had been changed into twintails, and on top of that, she had even agreed to show up on screen with cat ears, a bell collar, a sailor uniform, and bloomers with a tail attached for a special punishment game outfit...

>> No.4317181

>>4317173
OH FUCK

THANK YOU FOR BEING BORN AND PROMISE

I BAWWW LIKE A FEMALE EVERY TIME I HEAR THOSE FUCKING SONGS

>> No.4317187

>>4317181

Man, I dont even remember what the fuck Thank You For Being Born is.

>> No.4317189

So to go along with the confessions thing

I read Umineko mostly for the shipping.

>> No.4317191

>>4317179
Really? Some of it seems kind of farfetched for R07, but I guess its noncanon so it doesn't really matter. It does confirm my suspicion that he got mad at Erika for winning the poll though.

Also the best part is Krauss's part:

The battle against the Golden Witch will head towards the true fight. It will finally develop into the fight for gold – in other words, the fight over finances! Krauss, who had always played the part of the lowly buffoon, finally awakens as the Golden Sorcerer!

Bargaining to change the market price, distinguishing between lies and truth. Enveloped in the money game conspiracy! Business terminology will fly about, to the point where people will feel like they've become business experts just by reading it!

"Subprime loan failure! Pattern blue, confirmed as bubble!"

"Lehman has five minutes of active time remaining...! The investors are being cut off one by one!"

"Injection of public funds severed, sending coercion for government backing for Merrill Lynch!"

"It's no good, we cannot send it!" "What did you say?!"

"Commander Krauss... W-We have received a call from the former chairman of the Federal Reserve, Alan Greenspan..."

"...It's been a hundred years."

"Yes, there is no mistake. ...This is the second worldwide financial crisis (the Lehman bankruptcy.)"

>> No.4317197

Confession: I dislike Higurashi, but that's a common enough thing to confess. Even after watching the anime, and playing the first four parts of the VN, I can say with complete confidence that it is definitley not as enthralling as Umineko.

I played Higurashi on and off over a month or two, seldom getting fully sucked in to it. Maybe it just wasn't my kind of thing. I hate when people compare the two series, and I hated all the people on /a/ offhandedly saying things like, 'LOL UMINEKO IS A WHOLE LOAD OF WANK', and then proceeding to praise Higurashi. And they've only watched the anime.

>> No.4317204

>>4317181
I don't like the vocals in Promise, but it's an otherwise good song. Can really feel Battler holding on to that butterfly husk, soaking it with blood and crying.

>> No.4317209

>>4317181
>On rainy days, on sunny days,
>Every day, I loved you
>And, simply, even now,
>That will never change.

>> No.4317210

>>4317181
Rebirth is one of my favorite EP6 songs, if only because it's a remix of Thank You For Being Born.

>> No.4317215

>>4317204
The vocals do bug me. The "RA RA RAAAA"s turn into "HAU AU AUAU~"s.

>> No.4317218

>>4317187
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQxTxSrsLc4

>> No.4317229

Confession: I told my friend to read Umineko. He watched the anime for scenarios 1-2 and THEN downloaded the novel. Read 1-2, said fuck it, why am I reading the script for the anime when I can watch it (granted, 1-2 were fairly well done in the anime). And then finished the anime.

When he told me this, I called him a stupid asshole and am forcing him to read 3, 4, and 5 or else I'll curb stomp him.

>> No.4317230

>>4317191

Honestly, I wish this was canon since it's an awesome gag piece. Plus it kinda sorta reads like what Ryukishi would write.

Also, Krauss family is the best family.

■ Natsuhi
The story has been quite turbulent until now, so this time I would like a calm romance story aimed towards adults.
My husband throws a snowball at me, and when I catch it and split in apart...I find an engagement ring inside. Kya ☆

■ Jessica
Forget reasoning and theories! Honestly, I don't give a crap about the mystery. Time for the exhilarating action chapter, with the thrilling Jessica-sama beating up and knocking down the nasty villains with her brass knuckles!
I want the director to be Stephen Chow Sing-Chi.
I'll get cornered towards the end, but then Kanon-kun will gallantly dash in to save me!
For a more detailed explanation of that scene, see page 735 of the appendix!

>> No.4317231

>>4317218

I should clarify, I know the song, fuck if I can remember where it played or why it's good.

I think it might be EP3, which would make sense as I have destroyed most of my memories of EP3 because troll

>> No.4317232

I cried when Jessica and Kanon got torn apart in Turn. I cried during Banquet quite a bit towards the end. Alliance had me crying the most, at Maria's past, Ange wishing away the Stakes, Ange's sacrifice, and Beatrice and Battler in the Golden Land. End had my crying at Natsuhi's 'discolor' scene.

I definitley teared up a few times, too.

I'm far too emotionally invested in the series.

>> No.4317236
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>>4317191
Considering the role he gave her in episode six, I doubt he dislikes Erika.

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>>4317204

FUCK

FUCK SHUT UP

THE MEMORIES ARE COMING BACK ;_;

>> No.4317241

>>4317231
It plays when Beato is getting shot up, IIRC.

>> No.4317243

Confession: My sister walked in on me bawwwing at Beato getting cross stitched for the sake of a shitty pairing, and laughed.

Not at the fact that I was crying, but because there was "classical music" playing.

I told her to slice up her cow tits and make me a sandwich.

>> No.4317248

>>4317239
Whatevs, I regularly reread the ???? for End because I thought it was awesome.

>> No.4317251

>>4317243
STANDING OVATION FOR THIS ANON.

FUCK, STANDING OVATION FOR EVERYONE IN THIS THREAD.

I FEEL AT ONE WITH YOU ALL.

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>>4317236
Why would anyone dislike Erika, anyway?

>> No.4317254

>>4317243
At first I =/
Then I loled.

>> No.4317255

Confession: I thought Angeburger was the saddest thing in the whole VN.

>> No.4317260

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4xOu6zUhoo&feature=related

Why are the ending themes always so good?

>> No.4317261

>>4317230
> Time for the exhilarating action chapter, with the thrilling Jessica-sama beating up and knocking down the nasty villains with her brass knuckles!
Hm...........

>> No.4317262

>>4317253
I fucking despise Erika. Fuck her with all 7 stakes.

I haven't read 6 though, so whatever.

>> No.4317264

>>4317254
>=/
Stop it.

>> No.4317267

George you so crazy.

■ George
I'd like a peaceful and loving depiction of how the romance between me and Shannon started. The scene still hasn't been shown in the original work, after all.
It happened on the day of the traditional family conference. I wonder how many years ago it was. Haha, remembering it makes me feel a bit embarrassed.
That day, I had been wearing a hat. It was blown away by a strong wind and went flying away on the beach.
At that moment, Shannon showed up. We went to go search the beach together for the hat.
We just couldn't find it anywhere, no matter how many times the two of us scoured the beach searching for it.
We never found it. But it would've been boring to just search for it in silence. We conversed with each other the whole time.
That was when...I heard that she longed to go see an aquarium.
By coincidence, I had a friend who was a curator. I arranged it so that just the two of us could specially visit the aquarium on one of the days it was closed.

I apologized to her for two things.
One was that I wouldn't get to show her the crowds of people at the aquarium.
The other was that...I hadn't actually been wearing a hat in the first place. (Kira☆)

>> No.4317269

Confession: Once I downloaded Dawn, I deleted my End folder, thinking that I could move the translation patch into the Dawn folder, and that it would work perfectly.

I was, obviously, very wrong. I can't be bothered to download End again, and I really want to read the end of End again, especially with that fanmade drama CD playing in the background.

>> No.4317270

>>4317260
Because Active Pain and Tsubasa.

>> No.4317275

>>4317264
>OH NO HE USES SMILIES ON THE INTERNET

Problem, Anon? ::3

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>>4317262
I did too, but the scene in Episode 6 was just too much fetish fuel for me.

That and she wasn't that gratifying of a villain when you knew she was just Bern's lacky.

>> No.4317277

>>4317269
What drama CD?

>> No.4317279

>>4317179
I want an Evatrice dakimakura cover with her wearing that outfit.

>> No.4317280

>>4317264
What else would you have me do? "I crooked smiled and cocked an eyebrow"?

>> No.4317282

>>4317267
George you clever motherfucker. If only you knew your girlfriend moonlights as an emo shota.

>> No.4317286

>>4317269
Oh god the drama CD.

I thought I would bawww, but only as much as I do every time I read the ????.

But Beato at the beginning...oh god. I thought that was going to kill me. And then I got to Battler crying, and it was perfect. So full of bawww, but so perfect. He sounds like he's been stabbed, like he's coughing up blood and his throat is gargling but he doesn't care, because he has to ;_; for his waifu.

>> No.4317287

>>4317286
Damn it where can I find this?

>> No.4317288

>>4317277
So far, there's this pair of incredible doujin drama CDs. They're each about eighty minutes long, have awesome amateur seiyuu, and even play the proper music.

The first dealt with the end of Alliance, starting from Ange breaking into Maria and Beatrice's Golden Land, all the way through to more than half of the tea party. It's powerful fucking stuff. Some of the amateur seiyuu are miles ahead of the ones in the anime. The second time I played the drama CD, I had the exact scenes on in the VN. IT WAS LIKE IT WAS REALLY VOICED.

The second drama CD dealt with the end of End, including Battler's 'AND THEN... I KNEW' scene, and Beatrice's demise. Her 'liar' is especially ;_;.

>> No.4317289

>>4317286
Woah woah woah, link to where I can download said drama CD please?!

>> No.4317295

>>4317277
http://www.mediafire.com/?4nj5gjnmm0y
http://www.mediafire.com/?1kmfmy1d100
http://www.mediafire.com/?intjmnmzinn

This drama CD.

>> No.4317300

>>4317288
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mK-yQwlt_dA This what you're talking about? And can I find one with translations?

>> No.4317302

>>4317289
>>4317287
See >>4317295.

>> No.4317305

>>4317288
> Some of the amateur seiyuu are miles ahead of the ones in the anime.
Don't blame the anime VAs; they're all top-tier. Blame the voice director for the anime.

>> No.4317308

>>4317288
FFFFF HER "LIAR"

FORGOT ABOUT THAT DAMMMMMIIIIT I ACTUALLY JUST UUUOOOOHED

"Uso...tsuki..."

>> No.4317312

>>4317300
I think its the same line-for-line as the VN, I guess the only hard part would be syncing it up. Someone should do that and post it on youtube or something...

>> No.4317315

>>4317300
Nope. That's the official drama CD.

The doujin ones, well, are much better. Mainly because they take everything word from fucking word, and actually sound like their characters. With the doujin CD, you can tell that the seiyuus are people who adore the series, and want to do their characters justice.

>> No.4317316

>>4317312
>Someone should do that and post it on youtube or something...

Seconding this SO HARD

>> No.4317317

>>4317305
The VAs for the anime were awesome. Sayaka Ohara's voice, especially in that one voice clip where she trolls you and says she'll confuse your penis every morning by being your little sister...she has a glorious troll voice.

But no matter how amazing the anime VAs are, nothing could ever top the EP5 drama CD, especially the EP5 one. Battler...well, Anon said it best. He really does sound gargly and dead and like he doesn't give a fuck because he just made a sandcastle.

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>>4317230
>Krauss family is the best family

I stopped right there.

Best family in the pic okay.

>> No.4317323

>>4317295
>>4317295
>>4317295
>>4317295
>>4317295
>>4317295
>>4317295

YOU ARE MY NEW WAIFU.

>> No.4317324

>>4317312
>>4317295
>>4317315
You're right. I just started listening to it, I like this Battler.

>> No.4317326

>>4317317

Was anyone able to find out who voiced Dlanor? She was really, really, fucking awesome.

>> No.4317331 [DELETED] 

Where does the ending drama cd pick up in the game? Damn, I can barely tell who's who.

>> No.4317328

>>4317288
>>4317295
Fffffffffuuuu I like this already. But does anyone have the Alliance drama CD?

>> No.4317333

>>4317331
It starts at Beato shuffling in.

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>>4317315
> Mainly because they take everything word from fucking word, and actually sound like their characters.
I haven't listened to all of them myself, as I haven't been able to find complete downloads for them all, but the official drama CDs are supposedly very good as well. It's just that only a couple were made, and only covering a few parts.

That reminds me, though; whatever happened with this drama CD, the one that was supposedly at C77 and went on sale online January 27th?

>> No.4317337

>>4317331
The End one picks up with Battler, Dlanor and Lia in the garden talking about the decalogue and what solving the mystery is.

>> No.4317340

>>4317317
Well Daisuke Ono can be dramatic sounding when he wants to be. Go and listen to the Navigation CD of EP 1 - the first twilight scene recorded there is just amazing. Can't imagine why the anime would butcher it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoA4GPciKe4

It's not subbed, but if you remember the scene it's pretty much like that word for word.

>> No.4317342

Confession: I really, really miss the pre-EP4 discussions on /jp/. Too many /a/ posters here now.

I also think Jessitrice is the worst 'theory' ever.

>> No.4317348 [DELETED] 

>>4316001
Please stop spamming www. anon
talk
. com.

>> No.4317344

>>4317340
I can't not like Daisuke Ono because he's also Hosaka.

>> No.4317346

>>4317328
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=S4CMMMMD
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=RSJ5WLCB

BRACE FOR AWESOME, ANON.

And, for those listening to the CDs for the first time, stop what you're doing. Right now. You must now read the scene it corresponds to in the VN with it playing in the background.

>> No.4317350

>>4317342
>Too many /a/ posters here now.

too true. they all came in around the time EP 6 was made.

>> No.4317353

>>4317346
Thanks bro. But how do I orchestrate that? Can I mute the novel?

>> No.4317357

>>4317340
Daisuke's Battler = SMUG FUCKER WHO I WANT TO PUNCH.

Amateur's Battler = Holy shit, this person really knows the characters. STOP BEING BATTLER, YOU'RE BREAKING MY HEART.

>> No.4317359

>>4317357
> Daisuke's Battler = SMUG FUCKER WHO I WANT TO PUNCH.
You mean DEEN's Battler. Fucking DEEN.

>> No.4317360

>>4317353
Press m to mute the game.

>> No.4317361

>>4317357
It's not Daisuke's fault - he has to act the way the director (Chikai Kon) tells him to.

And I can't say I like the drama cd's Battler. EP 5 one was good, but the EP 4 one didn't really catch me.

>> No.4317364

>>4317353
And to you anons listening to it, just keep in mind sometimes you'll have to skip through some parts since it just goes to the Spoken parts a lot of the time.

>> No.4317367

>>4317360
Does that work with EP 4? I think they only added that feature in for the EP 5 patch.

>> No.4317369

>>4317360
Thanks sir, I will definitely read it while it's playing. Too bad I don't have Alliance on this computer though.

>> No.4317371

>>4317353
I actually turned the sound down on my computer for it, since the CDs were already on my ipod. I then had the cd on full fucking blast on my speakers.

But I think you can press m to mute the sound?

>> No.4317373

>>4317361
Yeah, Battler in EP4 isn't that amazing. Still great and I still prefer it to the anime, but nothing compares to the EP5 CD.

Now that I listen to it again, he really is quite "gargly." Like he has blood pooled in his throat. WHAT HAS BEEN HEARD CANNOT BE UNHEARD, but in a good way.

>> No.4317374

>>4317361
This is true.

Daisuke's Battler in the 2 anime-sponsored drama cds are great, majorly because Frontier Works handles it and not Chikai Kon + DEEN.

>> No.4317377

>>4317367
Not sure. Maybe if you apply the most recent patch for 1-4?

>> No.4317380

>>4317334
...What's that drama CD supposed to be about?

>> No.4317385
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>>4317295

YOU ARE AWESOME

DO YOU KNOW HOW AWESOME YOU ARE? USE THIS PICTURE AS A MEASUREMENT OF AWESOMENESS. YOU ARE FIVE TIMES MORE AWESOME THAN THIS PICTURE. THAT IS HOW AWESOMELY AWESOME YOU ARE

I LOVE YOU

>> No.4317386

>>4317380
No cluer really.

Note 4 came out recently too - I wonder if anybody scanned The Empress card with Natsuhi and Eva yet.

>> No.4317387

>>4317380
DEEN gets staked.

>> No.4317392

>>4317385
Normally I'd just be all like "No problem, bro," but FUCK EVEN IF THIS FANDOM IS CALLED SHITTY 24/7 YOU GUYS ARE MY UMINEKO-SPECULATING BROS

A BROFIST TO YOU, AND YOU ARE WELCOME FOR THE DRAMA CD IF YOU DOWNLOAD IT

>> No.4317393
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4317393

Confession: I have always wanted an Umineko slice-of-life romance VN where you date the female cast (particularly the fantasy side). H-scenes would be a plus in my book.

Somebody fund it.

>> No.4317395

>>4317385
Is it wrong of me to want to stick it in Maria from all angles in this picture?

>> No.4317397

>>4317373
I admit you're right, but Battler is suppose to sound the way Daisuke Ono portrayed him.

Ryukishi specially handpicked the four cousins, along with Shannon, Kanon and Beatrice. Everyone else was hired by Frontier Works.

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4317398

This is the most feel good Umineko thread I've experienced in a long time.

Just got in here, and I can feel the love.

I LOVE YOU, ANONS.

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>promise playing in the background
>"Beato...you really... were an idiot"

THIS DRAMA CD, FUCK

THE TEARS AUGHHH

>> No.4317405

>>4317393
I'd rather have a MILF VN.

>> No.4317406

>>4317398
I agree. I think the thread is auto-saging isnt it? Maybe we should continue this elsewhere.

>> No.4317408

>>4317393
410 route would be best by default.

>> No.4317409
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4317409

>>4317385

SAMEFAG HERE

>>4317346

AND YOU. YOU'RE FIVE TIMES AS AWESOME AS THIS PICTURE, HERE. THAT'S HOW AWESOMELY AWESOME YOU ARE

FUCK YOU'RE AWESOME

MAY YOUR PENIS FIND MANY VAGINAS

I LOVE YOU, THANK YOU

>> No.4317413

>>4317408
I'm sorry, you somehow spelled Lucifer wrong.

It's okay, people make that mistake sometimes.

>> No.4317414

Should someone start a new thread, then?

ALSO FUCK YES BROFIST TO THIS THREAD

I AM GLAD I CHANGED THE TOPIC TO UMINEKO CONFESSIONS EVEN IF IT WAS AN AWKWARD HIJACK, BECAUSE IT LED TO THIS

>> No.4317418

>>4317409
OH SNAP I don't have that picture, and it's fucking awesome. THANKS BRO!

>> No.4317424

New thread; >>4317419

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>>4317413
Worst. Stake. Ever.

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