/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>42995144
Aya was making up fake news about a good and charismatic leader, much like the media made tons of fake news about Trump.
Generally in Touhou Gensokyo represents Japan (see Lafcadio Hearn's Kwaidan), Makai/Hell represents the US/West (see above), and the Lunar Capital represents China. Given that Aya was being manipulated by Sagume, we might say that the message here by ZUN is that China was trying to ruin relations between the US and Japan.

>>42995144
It's just Aya making shit up, and making outrage-bait article, in reality Miko was just there to promote a healthy living.
The whole book is a commentary/parody of modern tabloid journalism.

>>42998731
>Given that Aya was being manipulated by Sagume
Imagine actually believing this, when it was obvious that it's just Hecatia's own bias speaking. As much as they're all self-absorbed bitches, the moonies stopped giving a shit about Gensokyo after the situation with Junko and Hecatia was resolved, and Sagume herself was more than willing to help bring down the chaos that ensued during Sumireko's little festival, since she's not actually hostile towards Gensokyo, and presumably felt that she should at least give something back after using the protagonists to deal with Junko and the hell fairies.

>>42995144
ZUN discovered /pol/

>>43002820
But this was clearly a parody whereas /pol/ felates Trump's cock whenever possible

>>43002796
you are right that Hecatia is quite biased against the lunarians. I cannot see her comments applying to the Watatsuki sisters, who seem quite fine with Earth. However, given that their position in the Moon is quite fragile and their loyalty is questioned, there might be a more virulent anti-Earth group on the Moon, and I feel like Sagume is/was part of that group.
Sagume's interference is pretty much confirmed by the text isn't it? Aya herself recognized that she was acting quite out of character

>>43002843
>On today's installation of; anons reading into shitposts too much

>>43002843
We're in post-ironic era, so when ZUN stated that he's parodying outrageous clickbait article, it's actually his subconscious way to enable the state of which story get filtered to his reader by make sure that it's very ridiculous in the first place
...or something like that idk im not even american

>>43002858
Sagume is, if anything, much more amiable towards the Earth and much less concerned with kegare than your typical Lunarian. For example, she's willing to make a casual visit to the Moon's most notorious criminal, unconcerned with what the other Lunarians would think.
Mind you, if it came down to the Earth or the Lunar Capital, she'd probably strangle every last child with her own two hands, but even during LoLK, she went out of the way to work towards a solution that would end the siege of the capital without having to nuke Gensokyo, even though it was clearly much riskier than the official plan to relocate the capital.

And AFiEU is only a bit worse than Aya's typical fare. She's always been notorious for yellow journalism, and never fucking learns despite all the people calling her out for it.
Blaming Sagume for everything is just a cheap excuse so that she doesn't have to do any self-reflection and acknowledge her own faults, and she doesn't better herself in the slightest. Not long after this tabloid, she decides not to publish her interview with Okina because it made her and the other Tengu look bad, and even more recently, she refused to publish the truth of the origin of the red snow, for similar reasons.
Aya's "reporting" has always been utterly self-serving and sensationalist, and she has never been deserving of any respect.

>>43003044
The himes also came down to Earth. If you don't value Inaba of the Earth&Moon, Toyohime goes to Earth and then later sends Reisen down there. In fact, Yorihime scolding her sister can be seen as evidence that she takes far too many trips to the Earth.
Sagume is single-handedly responsible for the Urban Legend incident and for the Lunar Relocation Plan. She could have easily erased Gensokyo's existence, and was pretty much on course to do that. Surely she waited for a better plan, but it was only because of the flaws of the relocation plan (would it have stopped Junko?) and not for any care towards the Earth.
As for Aya, surely she is flexible with what she calls the truth, that's impossible to deny. But! Her fanning the flames of a baseless xenophobic attitude towards outsiders is completely out of character. She has never shown that attitude again. This behaviour is what Hecatia criticizes and is directly derived from Sagume's interference.

>>42995144
Was this the downfall of Aya? It seems like she got turned into a punching bag right around this got released.

>>43003216
Since her first appearance she has been criticized by almost everyone she meets. In BAiJR many people treat her newspaper as garbage.
But yeah this is probably where she's at her lowest. She's insulted by everyone and basically called a retard by Akyuu in her detective story. It's hilarious. I don't know how people don't talk more about the many weird aspects of that book. It feels like half of it is common knowledge, half is completely buried

>>43003216
Have you read the book? Canonically the book was never publicly published as Aya deemed it low-quality even for her standard. I don't get how that makes her a punching bag.

>>43003279
Not really, this >>43003288 and in Forbidden Scrollery's last episode she was actually trying to expose Kosuzu's cover-up by Reimu, which was pretty fucked up, and Aya had every right to expose them (eventhough she failed)

>>43003216
I don't think most people liked Aya to begin with, the fate of scummy journalist I guess

>>43003216
She's straight up slandered Byakuren without any remorse in Miyoi's manga, she's definitely supposed to be a dislikable character by ZUN

>>43003846
It's almost like zun writes unlikeable characters that aren't enough of a bastard to still *be* likeable, because that's more interesting than a holy saint, the two of which in gensokyo are genereally insufferable to non-believers

>>43003866
>to still *be* likeable
That's just your penis speaking bro

>>43003319
What would have happened if she managed to expose the cover-up?

>>43005587
Publicizing the expose would've caused a riot in human village, as it would show Reimu, and Akyuu conspiring with a youkai (Yukari) to fake an incident to avoid killing Kosuzu, while being cool about killing other harmless human-turned-youkai like the fortune teller, who sadly got killed as he didn't have the right connection unlike Kosuzu. However knowing Aya, she would most likely use that info as a blackmail Reimu instead of publicizing it, as breaking the human-youkai power balance wouldn't be in the interest of Tengu's agenda.

>>43003111
Inaba isn’t canon and shouldn’t be taken as evidence of anything. As emissary of the moon, Toyohime can visit the earth, but she clearly avoided direct contact with Eirin, only acting through intermediaries to avoid suspicion.
And Aya posting heavy anti-immigration shit is entirely on-brand for her, because she’s well established as being severely lacking in moral scruples, despite her posturing as being a pure and honest reporter. Eiki lectured her on this pretty strongly, as you may recall. She’s willing to write whatever story she believes would get her the attention and acclaim she wants, with little concern about the truth or how her stories affect others.
What actually happened was that Aya saw an outside world tabloid and concluded that she could make something similar, imitating both the form and the contents, because she thought it could be popular, until Hecatia confronted her with just how incredibly dogshit her magazine was, which made her reconsider publishing it. It was never out of character for her to write it, she just stopped when she realized that it was going to backfire on her, but it was all Aya’s own doing from start to finish.

There’s simply zero actual evidence that Sagume is responsible, she has no motive, it doesn’t line up with the things she actually does, and the only people making that claim are someone who clearly has an immense bias against the lunarians and someone who’s using Sagume as a convenient scapegoat. Neither of them can be taken as trustworthy on this subject, and their testimony should be discarded entirely without strong evidence to support their claims. Since no such evidence is ever shown, we can safely conclude that this is just Ayayaya once more proving herself to be the fastest in Gensokyo when it comes to avoiding responsibility for her own actions.

Seriously, anon, this entire book was focused on fake news and you’re just going to accept Hecatia’s claims without even the slightest bit of scrutiny?

>>43007152
>Inaba isn't canon
Show me one quote from ZUN saying that. Just one.
Events from Inaba have been referenced in other mangas. It's the third part of a three-part series.

>>43007152
Toyohime only talks through intermediaries because she was still busy with the whole Yukari situation. She directly states in SSiB that she would welcome Eirin back into the moon no questions asked. She clearly has no problem with interacting with Earthling Urashima in CiLR.
My point is beside this, but the situation in Inaba of the Earth&Moon is not in any way weird character-wise. The mission of the lunar emissaries, of which she is a member, is to conduct relations between the Moon and Earth. The sisters' affection to Eirin is well-documented throughout SSiB and CiLR, even to the point that they are viewed with suspicion by the rest of the Moon (remember, Reisen believed that Eirin was going to be the leader of an invasion to the Moon. It's easy to see that this is related to the rumours about the Watatsukis.)
Sagume on the other hand acted largely from the Moon throughout the Urban Legend Incident and LoLK. She only warms up to the Earth afterwards; all of her actions before were leaning towards conflict.

>>43007152
Eiki lectured Aya on creating incidents with her words, not for her awful reporting. There's not a single article in BAiJR that's fanning the flames as much as AFiEU. And she didn't realize it was dogshit, she cancels it because of the potential interference from Sagume. She DIRECTLY states she was satisfied with her work's quality.
Hecatia may be biased against Lunarians. However, Sagume's entire plotline is influencing events through her words; Hecatia doesn't even confirm that Sagume's responsible, but the mere thought is already scary to Aya.
Really, Aya never acted xenophobic before. She's one of the few Tengu that cares about the world outside of Youkai Mountain, and if anything she's left-leaning, given that she tried to insert criticism about Tengu society in AFiEU. She did like the tabloid format, and it is in line with her normal stance on journalism. However, the xenophobic attitude isn't, and that's what Hecatia points to Lunarian interference.
You should notice that Sagume's the queen of fake news; her very power is to make real things fake and fake things real (see the Urban Legend Incident)

>>43007265
ZUN usually writes for all 2hu manga but for Inaba he didn't. 2007-05-14's blogpost ZUN pretty much states he let the guy whatever he wants to do with the plot.

>>43007782
I am aware that he's not credited as the main writer; however, he's still credited with the scenario, and it's published as an official part of an official series, Bougetsushou. He has never stated it isn't cannon. Here's a quote:
>The jokes from Arata's Udonge book?
>I gave him rough instructions on the usuals and the conclusions
>Which characters to show up, only those.
>(everyone sounds their agreement)
>If I don't do that then he (the mangaka) cannot think of jokes. [too much instructions limits creativity]
So ZUN DID give instructions to the plot. He only did not control it tighter because a comedy is different from other mangas and requires more liberties. However, it's still canon.

>>42995144
I hate Aya so much it's unreal

>>43012539
I love Aya so much, I want her to have my babies.

I have such a middling, neutral opinion of Aya that it's almost outrageous.

sine when is jp infested with yokai burners

>>43012614
Why middling?

>>43015171
I'm ESL and forget what words mean sometimes that's why

>>43012614
Reveal them to us

>>43013432
We're just biding our time amongst the youkai supremacists

Remember when Aya recruited Momiji and Hatate to take lewd pictures of themselves so they could sell more newspapers?

>>43021651
Mating press time

>>43021651
the true question is why the fuck did the other two retards accept?
Don't they hate Aya? I mean, Aya was badmouthing and even spreading fake news about Hatate in this very work.

>>43021927
Because it was scrapped and never released to the public duh

>>43022042
But why the hell did they accept it in the first place?
Why would Hatate and Momiji pose for someone whom they don't have a particularly strong friendship with?

>>43021927
The real hard hitting question is why did they decide that taking provocative photos of themselves was the best way to get new subscribers to their newspaper when the newspaper itself is mostly targeted to the human village?

>>43022818
That's the easiest question to answer. Besides, the newspaper was mainly distributed in Youkai Mountain and outside of the village up until FS, when Aya made a washed-down version to be distributed at Suzunaan.

>>43022802
Megumu's order

>>43026831
Damn pervert tengu

>>43027320
They all are.

>>43021927
People and Youkai badmouthing and backstabbing each other for their agenda is just Monday in Gensokyo

>>43022818
Unless those human male are all gay in there, the tengu still looks human duh
The power of boner triumphs all

>>43026831
I bet Megumu would jack off a human man and insult him and his disgusting penis and asking why she would let a inferior human penetrate her superior Tengu pussy while spreading herself and rubbing said penis between her folds and sliding over her opening.

>>43031512
This post is extremely lewd.
Horny police, please escort this man from the premises.

>>43007152
>Inaba isn’t canon and shouldn’t be taken as evidence of anything.
Its 2023 and people still spout this bullshit

>>43031512
I sure hope that never happens to me! But if it did, I pray she would finish me off by sitting on my face while grabbing Tsukasa and forcefully pushing the little sex fox onto my dick to serve as a sperm receptacle.

>>43031512
H-hot. At that point she should just step on it

>>43030970
No such thing as gay males in the Human Village. They get expelled to the outside world by Yukari

>>43031512
And what happens next?

>>43031512
Haha, it would suck if that were me.

>>43038882
What would suck? Are you Megumu in that situation?

>>43038892
No, It totally suck if Megumu were to get me off like this, driving me to the brink of pleasure and smirking, while asking me if my human instincts are making me to cum inside of her. I totally 100% would not want that, especially if she were to "accidentally" slip me inside. I would not want that at all, haha.

>>43038892
Don't be silly there is no way Megumu has internet and even if she did why would she browse 4chan and post on /jp/

>>43021651
Aya a slut?

>>43042095
I think It's more like youkai don't care as much what they show but by human standards she would seem like a slut. That and Aya likely knows what sells well.

>>43042095
She'll do anything for her paper

>>42995144
I'm pretty sure if you know how to read, it tells you.

Haha funny Trump reference
Probably.

>>43040134
>t. Megumu

>>42995144
I mean...she's right. The best humans can hope for from most youkai outside the village is being a slave. There are youkai with good intentions for humans but good luck running into one outside the village, your chances are low

>>43061577
How would being Koishi's slave be like?

>>43061591
You literally wouldn't have a choice to even try to say no to doing something. Koishi could control your subconscious mind into enjoying anything she wants no matter how cruel. She could even make you hate things you love. Granted, she might just force you to love her with your entire being, that would be enough to control most people.