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A place for discussion of the great works by Kinoko Nasu / TYPE-MOON.

>Type-Moon Visual Novel Collection (Japanese)
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1tyCb9CZR_bh6ZyvK8N1v3HU0GhG6aTZe

>Mahoutsukai no Yoru
Mahoutsukai no Yoru:
https://nyaa.si/view/1611543
Mahoutsukai no Yoru PC:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/177wSYqWfOpH_4AsGzY27sZOs8y84GWa9
English Patch (Partial):
https://mega.nz/folder/dBkXjbaa#e3rJvGTb9PT7TFVwjk-2ww
An Adventure of First Love (Mahoutsukai no Yoru complementary short story):
https://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread.php/8887-An-Adventure-of-First-Love-%28Mahoutsukai-no-Yoru-Short-Story%29-Translation

>Kara no Kyoukai
Kara no Kyoukai Novel (Japanese):
https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/shousetu/b/奈須きのこ_空の境界/index.html
Kara no Kyoukai Novel (English):
https://nyaa.si/view/1414316
Kara no Kyoukai Animated Films:
https://nyaa.si/view/264295
Kara no Kyoukai Manga:
https://nyaa.si/view/1187963

>Tsukihime
Tsukihime VN Collection:
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/3439039
Shingetsutan Tsukihime Manga:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1cC2cl1r46qDxKLQ6SJ2ss2V0JS8ihlpn

>Tsukihime Remake
Tsukihime Remake:
https://pastebin.com/QSz8A5Jf (embed)
English Patch (Arcueid Route):
https://tsukihimates.com

>Melty Blood
Melty Blood PC Collection:
https://nyaa.si/view/1042489
Melty Blood Manga:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1qfSckM1X-oLSl8DPCk9GqOydRRH5UjEq
Melty Blood - Back Alley Alliance Nightmare Manga:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/16jgRv-WneCDBF324U_MFsuguPFTt2J0S
Melty Blood - Type Lumina:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1372280/MELTY_BLOOD_TYPE_LUMINA/
Melty Blood - Type Lumina Community Translation Patch:
https://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread.php/9302-Melty-Blood-Type-Lumina-Community-Translation-Patch

>Fate
Fate/Stay Night [Réalta Nua] Ultimate Edition:
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/3748986
https://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread.php/9101-Fate-Stay-Night-Realta-Nua-Ultimate-Edition-2022
Fate/Hollow Ataraxia:
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/2575055
https://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread.php/7705-Fate-Hollow-Ataraxia-Voice-Patch
Fate/Spinoffs:
https://pastebin.com/Vgy14rSK (embed)

>Other Type-Moon Works
Angel Voice / Notes:
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/7899136/1/Notes-The-Legend-of-the-Gun-God
Fire Girl:
https://firegirlthetranslation.wordpress.com
Mahou Tsukai no Hako: Starlit Marmalade Manga:
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/y68oxcrmg8i6k/Sutamamo
Tsuki no Sango:
https://www.mediafire.com/?uq1eqhccbxhxktx
Tsuki no Sango Manga:
https://mangadex.org/chapter/773842/1
Haru to Tsuki to Sora to:
https://mega.nz/file/xlVwGY4K#170GaRCpftfOJXtBjbF1BYu3cNUaiM6aOJLWEkhLyKs
Clock Tower 2015:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UnWI7x2XpL8PFE9OuGDjY8qJ0nW7WsVm/view?usp=sharing

>Type-Moon Miscellaneous
Encyclopedia of Type-Moon:
https://mega.nz/folder/oM8EhIjQ#IAVmHGdLnalCs0B5mRhzRQ
Type-Moon Comic Ace:
https://web-ace.jp/tmca
TMdict Glossary:
https://www.tmdict.com
Tsuki-kan (comprehensive record of real-world statements, interviews, Q&As, feature articles, etc):
https://www.tsukikan.com
Tsukihime Archives:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1NBqMPjBkGiNk9vIgOtPyjNnpxeH5fmHI
Tsukihime Tokuhon:
https://exhentai.org/g/82076/173f6680ef

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>> No.42993727

>>42993376
The only thing more cursed than blue-eyed Kohaku is blue-eyed Saber.

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>> No.42994490

kuso OP

>> No.42994614

>>42993394
OG Hisui....

>> No.42994681

>>42993394
Ugh her tits are way too big

>> No.42995159

>>42993376
>earlyfag strikes again

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>> No.42995517

why does Dirty Red change her appearance in every story she appears in?

>> No.42996217

>>42995517

I think you mean "Why does the best mage keep up appearances?"

>> No.42996343
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>> No.42998830

>>42993376
>blue eyes
Die

>> No.42998949

This OP gave me cancer

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What did he mean by this?

>> No.42999387

>>42993376
kohaku is cancer

>> No.43000178

>>42999387
She's JUST like me, you just don't get it bro

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>>42999069
He's flirting with his vampire earth god oneitis

>> No.43003017

I wish Akiha had green eyes

>> No.43003099

>>43000178

ok kohakudoori

go back to fucking your kohaku plushes

>> No.43003286

>>43000202
Can Shiki beat Zamasu?

>> No.43003364

>>43003286
unfused Zamasu has no Death, he is completely immortal.
It's a little more complicated fused.
After Trunks killed fused Zamasu, it seems like the original immortal zamasu became the sky, so he was still not dead.
Hard to say, I'm betting not.
>>43003017
I wish Akiha had large enough breasts to be considered an attractive woman

>> No.43003438

>>43003364
I wish you had a large enough cock to be considered an attractive man

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>>43003585
Imagine being super edgy but your dick is still small as fuck lol

>> No.43005780

>>43003585
>ywn be pranked by natalia

>> No.43005788

>>43003364
>unfused Zamasu has no Death, he is completely immortal.
So it requires the intervention of Grand Servant First Hassan to give him the concept of death like with Tiamat?

>> No.43006146

>>43005788
would a grand servant even have the authority to undo a wish made by the super dragon balls

>> No.43007367

>>43003364
And what exactly do you consider "large enough breasts"

>> No.43007480

>>43003286
NTA. How does Shiki kill the night of Wallachia/TATARI?

>> No.43007614

>talking to weeb girl in class
>recommend Tsukihime to her because she looks like Akiha
>also said she has a delicious flat chest
>check my email this morning
>Notice: Behavioral Report- Sexual Misconduct
>have to go talk to head of student affairs today
It's fucking over. I made my life revolve around pirated hentai games and now my life is over

>> No.43008602

>>43007614
>talking to women
First mistake

>> No.43008644

>>43007614
>3D women
we warned you bro

>> No.43008725

Shirou is a mongrel.
Illya is a mongrail.

>> No.43008811

>>43007614
>also said she has a delicious flat chest
lmao, you deserve it. Not even Shiki would dare tell that to a girl straight on.

>> No.43008850

>>43007614
>>also said she has a delicious flat chest
The year is 2023. What the fuck were you thinking?

>> No.43008880

>>43007614
We told you girls were just a trap to get you in jail.

>> No.43009075

>>43008811
>>43008850
I didn't tell her that SHE has dfc. I said that Akiha does and that it's a thing they have in common. Its called subtlety maybe if you talked to girls in real life you would have some

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Why is Arc so cool? Remember the saying how there is always a bigger fish? That's Arc, the bigger fish.

>> No.43009112

>>43009075
lmao. That amounts to the same thing.

>> No.43009302

>>43009095
She's just insanely likeable. I think it's because, to me at least, she is the nuanced perfect mix of cute and cool, childish and mature, down to earth yet otherworldly.

>> No.43009419

>>43009302
Those are a lot of contrasting traits. Hard to believe they could be pulled off so well.

>> No.43009832

>>43007614
You deserve it kid

>> No.43009979

>>42995517
There's an entire decade between Mahoyo and KnK.

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You guys talk to girls?
How?

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rinbutt

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rinbreasts

>> No.43012748

>>43009979
and then there's Fate Extra and Case Files as well

>> No.43012754

>>42999069
>lord of the mystical
Does that mean Arc is the apex of beings that live in mystery?

>> No.43012852

>>43012754
It means she's the demon king.

>> No.43012926

>>42995517
she's not changing her appearance.
Those are each a different doll she's using

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What will be her role in red garden ?

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rintummy

>> No.43013812

>>43013665
killed by Sacchin.

>> No.43013836

>>43013665
job

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Everyone here knows how polarizing opinions on the anime adaptations of the VNs are, but what is the general consensus of the fanbase on the manga adaptations of TM works? I haven't read them and have never seen them discussed here or anywhere else

>> No.43013867

>>43013857
Go and read the Tsukihime manga.

>> No.43013871

>>43013857
nasu kneels to the tsukihime manga

>> No.43013916

>>43013867
>>43013871
What about the other TM manga?

>> No.43013976

>>43013916
I don't know, I haven't seen other people post their opinion of them here so I don't know what my opinion is supposed to be yet. However I can tell you that the Tsukihime manga is great

>> No.43014002

If a Tsukihime 2 game wasn't a dream project for Nasu I wouldn't mind seeing it adapted as a manga by Sasaki Shounen. That would be great, but I think Nasu probably that Tsuki 2 to be a game.

>> No.43014026

>>43012926
she customizes them, but I suppose that would give her more creative freedom

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Why was this guy so powerful? He defeats Nine-Tailed Tamamo, one of the three great monsters according to Japanese history.

>> No.43014081

>>43013857
I vaguely remember reading some KnK manga and it was OK

>> No.43014124

>>43013871
>nasu kneels to the tsukihime manga

QRD?

>> No.43014135

Can Arc fly?

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>>43014124
loved the manga so much, nasu felt it was something that needed to be surpassed when working on the remake

>> No.43014577

>>43014041
why is he gay?

>> No.43014860

>>43003099
lol fuck that faggot. So glad that coalition of everything wrong with america got eternally btfo

>> No.43014921

>fuck kohakudoori
>but also lets include torrent releases from said person in the OP
what did /tmg/ mean by this?

>> No.43016021

>>43014860
hes 100% in this thread.

hollow moon has conpletely gotten filtered by their own shortsightedness and its clear theyll never release a good, or even mediocre product.

>> No.43016023

>>43014921
Ask the faggot OP

>> No.43016345

>>43014921
I despise Nasu but I still read all his vns

>> No.43018408

>>43014577
Too FABULOUS for you

>> No.43018899

>>43016023
The Tsukihime/Plus-Disc/KT releases are the best releases at the moment. Don't care about your gay EOP translation drama figureheads.

>> No.43019540

If in Fate worlds humanity has control over quantum time-locks, and in Extra the Moon Cell has control over them, then who has control in Tsukihime? Can it be anyone but Arc?

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Does someone know where I can find a summary of Tsukihime's story chapters? I've looked up online but I found pretty much nothing "good" enough.

I've started reading it a long time ago and now I wanna continue reading it but at the same time I don't want to start all over again...

>> No.43020128

>>43019987
I'd wager you have roughly three realistic options here. Take your pick.
1. Use your brain and just remember.
2. Start over but skim/speedread as a refresher until you catchup.
3. Start over but read normally and just suck it up.

>> No.43020708

>>43012852
Wouldn't that amount to the same thing? Immediately afterwards Roa begins to talk about divine mysteries and how humanity has the potential to surpass it.

>> No.43020764

>>43019987
>Summary
Otakudai did a summary of whole thing. He is pretty cringe, though.
Unless you mean the original, then just use the wiki.

>> No.43020941

>>43019987
Where did you stop?

>> No.43020984

>>43014041
10000x folded superior japanese notMagecraft can't be compared with your pathetic gaijin magecraft

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>> No.43021840

>>42993727
Blue eyed Saber looks much better.
I am surprised they didn't go for it since blonde/blue eyes combo is more common.

>> No.43021847

>>43021840
>Blue eyed Saber looks much better.
Kill yourself along with OP.

>> No.43022483

>>43021840
>Saber with blue eyes instead of emerald eyes
I'm going to find you in real life and make you regret putting that awful image in my head

>> No.43023430

>>43020941
Somewhere during Ciel's route.

>> No.43023439

>>43020764
It'd be nice to have a summary of the original Tsukihime visual novel, can't believe how "hard" it is to find one.

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>> No.43024826

No Prisma chapter this month. We haven't had one since November.

>> No.43027094

>>43024826
Good. Sick of it being paraded around as a good adaption for illya outside the fanservice.

>> No.43027731

>>43021840
The only reason I can think of is because blue would make her design look too much like a toy you'd find in a cereal box due to overt colour coordination with her white-blue casual outfit and blue-grey battle armor. Colour coordination is nice but overdoing it makes your characters look silly.

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>> No.43028193

How big can textures get? In LB4 Arjuna destroyed and recreated the texture and when the texture is destroyed all we see is a blank void, which I thought made sense as textures are supposed to include space and time. But do they include distant planets as well?

>> No.43028280

>>43021840
green eyes are always superior

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>> No.43030400

>>43030335
i'm going to fucking murder you

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Consider Rider

>> No.43031868

>>43031830
Hougu!

>> No.43031874

>>43031830
11/10 would kill Saber with.

>> No.43031895

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwJRbNjNsgU

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>> No.43032086

>>43032033
Alright I laughed. When I searched this artist the "Related Works" section had a "Rider with jealous face" linked.

>> No.43032102

>Cu killed his son
>Heracles killed his son
>Artoria killed her "son"
What great heroes.

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>>43031830
Always will

Also mega newfag question - did the english TL of the Apocrypha LNs ever get finished? Last I checked there was only 1,2,4 and most of 3 avaiable and I wanna read it before Strange Fake

>> No.43033002

>>43032102
Incest and killing your family used to make a hero back in the day.

>> No.43033037

>>43031830
>>43032033
>>43032105
Boobs!

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>> No.43033453

did a bunch of translators really have to code in a scene selection for Kagetsu Tohya instead of the Nips themselves?

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Don't worry
Be happy

>> No.43036551

I've liked Hollow Ataraxia so far but one thing really annoys me. Every time a character does something "weird" Shirou goes "hey that's wacky JUST LIKE SOMETHING TOHSAKA WOULD DO". Stop comparing everything to her.

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>>43036551
If only Tohsaka were here.

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>>43036551
Cope

>> No.43037235

>>43037209
Don't get me wrong, I like Rin but this obsession with her in the writing is really odd.

>> No.43037242

>>43037235
Well it was a pretty bold choice not to have her there for the first half of the game.

>> No.43037774

>>43036551
Haven't started HA yet, why in the world would Shirou compare "wacky crazy thing" with the methodical and serious Rin?

>> No.43037945

>>43036551
KILLING THE AC JUST LIKE TOHSAKA. CALLING TOHSAKA TOHSAKA INSTEAD OF TOHSAKA RIN JUST LIKE TOHSAKA WOULD..RIPPING THE PERFUME ON TOHSAKA JUST LIKE TOHSAKA.

>> No.43037960

>>43036551
woah... it's just like /tmg/...

>> No.43037972

>>43036551
Rin is Shirou's girlfriend. He just wants to be around her more

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>>43037960

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>> No.43038061

>>43038040
They look like they're discussing how best to have sex with me

>> No.43038520

>>43038015
>that bed

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>>43036551

>> No.43038714

>>43037989
This was so sad

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Soon.

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>> No.43038924

The maids are sluts!

>> No.43039089
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MAID LOVE

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>> No.43039661

>Rin: S on the outside, M on the inside
>Sakura: M on the outside, S on the inside

>> No.43039685

>>43039661
what about Saber?

>> No.43039728

Do I need to play CCC to play extella? If so is there a translation in any language or any way to play with mtl? I'm tired of waiting

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>> No.43039739

>>43039728
no. Basically all the Extra works can be consumed on their own. You'll miss a few references but not really.
Also extella 1 is giga shit on the game aspect
Link is much better as a game, with a worse narrative that's barely kept afloat by Karl.

>> No.43039743

>>43039728
There's a middling youtube translation of CCC.
If you want to read CCC with MTL there's a way to text hook into DeepL someone I know wanted to use, I hate MTL so much that I just read the entire story to them instead.
You don't necessarily need CCC for Extella, it doesn't touch any BB stuff.

>> No.43039780

>>43039739
I've heard about extella 1 being bad, but how is it soo bad? Can't bee too much worse than extra

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>> No.43039959

Purple!

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>>43039959
So true bestie!

>> No.43040120

>>43039984
Rider hugs must feel heavenly..maybe even heavenly's feel.

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>> No.43040174

>>43039780
The parts that read like Sakurai are bad, the parts that read like Nasu are pretty bad but can be redeemable at some points (Altera parts mostly, but still bad). It's worse than Extra. If you disliked Extra for boring gameplay, you'll have even less fun with the mind numbing gameplay of Extella that's only barely improved in Link.

>> No.43040203

>>43039928
me on right

>> No.43040263

CCC turns 10 years old tomorrow.
It has been 7 months since Iwakura updated the CCC progress tracker

>> No.43040277

>>43040263
*10 months

>> No.43040280

>>43040203
Let me lick your feet please

>> No.43040293

>>43040277
>>43040263
It's because Iwakura is a hack

>> No.43040296

>>43040280
But it's Sunday!

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>>43040293
Indeed

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>> No.43040455

>>43040424
What are they doing??? Why are they on the bed? Did they fall down while they were getting dressed?

>> No.43040562

>>43040455
pomf

>> No.43041097

If nip magecraft is so powerful, why are the nip families there studying western magecraft?

>> No.43041142
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So if you fuck Sakura while she is sex crazed during the events of HF are you fucking Sakura or are you fucking Angra? Or are you having a threesome with Sakura and Angra?

>> No.43041176

>>43041142
Sakura, unless you're fucking her in her sleep, in which you'd probably be eaten immediately by Angra Mainyu anyways. You could also say Femme Fatale Sakura is more Angra than Sakura.

>> No.43041269

>>43039831
>draw character that is clearly shirou
>dont give him eyes
japs are retarded

>> No.43041281

>>43041269
it makes it harder to self-insert; please understand

>> No.43041300

>>43041269
he went blind from getting fucked by the snek so much

>> No.43041312

>>43041281
yea, i get using no eyes on vague outlines that you're supposed to self insert into, i dont get using no eyes on a figure that is very clearly an established character

>> No.43041628
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Cagliostro = Roa = ?
Loyal Apostle of Marisbury Animusphere.

>> No.43043548

>>43037774
She's only methodical and serious during combat and tense situations (and when exposition needs to be dumped). She's a weirdo like all the other mages during everyday life. Shirou says so explicitly that the contrast between Tohsaka the perfect student and Tohsaka the magi is so stark that he can't help but find it intriguing.

>> No.43044451

>>43041628
>cagliostro is the persona used by a vampire
Would they REALLY rip off Dies Irae this hard?
Also isn't Roa dead in FGO timeline? Edmond burned Tarantella's soul.

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>>43044451
But Mercurius wasn't a vampire.

>> No.43046979

I'm an ESL and it never hit me that Tohsaka sounds like Toesucker to native speakers until someone pointed it out. It's times like these that I'm glad that I'm not one.

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>>43044451
It's either Cagliostro or some fusion of Roa and Dantes (and maybe Caglistro too). Marisbury's Apostles are all mixed High Servants bullshit, Kirei is Rasputin, something else I forgot, and Angra Mainyu's son (the actual Manjew not the villager Avenja), Shirou was Muramasa and other two gods shoved up his butt. Either with Dantes and Roa meeting later in life, because he did not go to take revenge, so ends up possessed as he never awoke his flames (as Shiki in Ciel's route) or combined because Arc made a point to compare Dantes and Shiki for some reason.
Whether he's Crowley, Dantes, Caglistro, Roa is an element because - like Kotomine - he's the main antagonist of a starter series franchise which is doomed. Both being the last lackeys of Marisbilly "Enemy of the Universe" Animusphere at a big scale and big scope grand finale Nasu has planned makes sense.
There's also the fact that both ROA and Kotomine seem doomed so it's impossible for them to continue after certain point while Marisbilly has a second Earth made so that fate could be averted.

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>>43044451
Forgot to clarify. Roa is dead in PHH, but like Kotomine (who is also dead, and burned), Marisbirlly might have pulled them out fresh from his pet planet. I would have said parallel worlds or lostbelts, but Holmes, knowing the existence of those, thought was impossible for Kirei to be a pseudo. There's something about that impossibility that probably extended to ROA but Marisbilly made it possible. It's also thematic the two main antagonists of Tsuki and FSN as a whole work for the main antagonist of FGO. Think about it.

Also consider:
1. Weird vampire deino in chapter 12 which wasn't explained.
2. Dantes has a big role upcoming and he foreshadowed he's fated to counter and stop Roa no matter from which world he is (Arc also stresses Shiki and Dantes are alike, that's why she also likes Dantes).

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>>43046979
Nobody says that. Ever. Did that guy that wrote Fight Club realize that
'Tyler Durden' rhymes with 'violent murder'???

>> No.43047075

>>43047011
>>43047046
>This is the face on the enemy of the universe

>> No.43047080

>Every non adaptaion Fate anime just picks apart various HA scenes and moments
We'll never get a true Ataraxia adaptation, will we

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>>43047080
>We will never get the date with Rider and Tiger Dojo - The Movie animated
Hold me bros...

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>>43044451
Same designer btw (she confirmed it on twitter). I'm sure Crowley and Cagliostro are part of this due to their symbols (and Crowley claiming to be Caglistro's reincarnation). Moneybill's Apostles are all High Servant fusions.

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>>43047075
He's dangerously cute on a universal level.

>> No.43047216

>>43047176
I want to fuck Olga in every single universe.

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>> No.43047522

>>43047485
ohhhhhh soft rider stomach

>> No.43047531

This general has been too horny lately.

>> No.43047550

>>43047075
The law of power creep suggests he's Iblis or Lucifer.

>> No.43047671

Lately this general should be horny.

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>> No.43047776

>>43047766
whoa!

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>> No.43048791

>>43041628
This will be the first time ROA doesn't look like a twinky jobber.

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Oh this is gonna be good. I love fever Rin.

>> No.43049475

>EMIYA on the throne reading a report on what he did in the 5th Grail War from his latest summoning
>"It says I cut my own arm off and gave it to my younger self. Why the fuck would I do that?"

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>>43049475
Never underestimate the power of stupidity and purple people eaters with huge tits.

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>> No.43050177

do these threads ever do draw prompts and then combine them in a collage?

>> No.43050182

Was rereading the Melty Current Code storylines and it's pretty impressive Dust of Osiris' mecha operates with the blood of the entire human race and she achieved Alchemy's ultimate goal in the form of the Philosopher's Stone, which is actually capable of healing death and vampirism. This is some of the most advanced a human has ever gotten in terms of magecraft, well alchemy in this case.
It's also kind of scary that the threat of Crimson Moon revived is so absolute that neither adult Sion nor Zepia could ever find a way to stop him from destroying mankind. So all they could do was either go insane or just create a record like Dust Sion did.

>> No.43050642

>>43050182
What sort of world ending event be so absolute that you cannot stop it no matter how many simulations you run through. Atlas are experts are running simulations and rayshifting anywhere to try and fix stuff, especially for an hypothetical adult version of Sion.

>> No.43050698

>>43050177
If I could get an official design of Altrouge and Crimson Moon I'd draw them everyday. I can't muster the motivation otherwise ;_;

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>>43050698
Takeuchi sent me this 20 years ago.

>> No.43050763

>>43050729
Very old DA page called Type Moon. One could almost think it's legit.

>> No.43050870

There was this flashback in Ciel's route from Roa's perspective where Arc fights 5 DAA and Elesia Roa, with Roa mentioning they were winning against her. While does make Arc look kinda bad as far as her title of the strongest goes, I still don't think this is anywhere as bad as full power ORT losing to Camazotz.
Especially considering it only took a third party joining the fray for Arc to turn the tables and kill Roa. Given that, who do you think joined that fight? Altrouge, Merem, Enhance? What's interesting is that Arc had her long hair during the France flashback and that was only 10 years ago, very recent, so it's very likely she lost her hair at that same time.

>> No.43050987

>>43050870
How is ORT losing to Camazotz bad? It's typical Nasu's compatibility+willpower fare. We also know power of love is bullshit.

>> No.43051006

>>43050642
Rayshifting didn't exist until Marisbilly gave them the formula in FGO, so no, they didn't.

>> No.43051047

>>43050642
They can't rayshift. Sion puts together a lesser rayshifting copy using the formula Marisbury loaned them (she couldn't without it) and still isn't good enough to go through Lostbelts or real Singularities (as opposed with "minute Singularities") that would be easy peasy in Chaldea.

>> No.43051081

>>43050987
It's precisely because it's a weaker character beating a stronger one.
It makes all the hype ORT gets later seem kinda dumb.

>> No.43051088

>>43051081
>weaker character beating a stronger one
Where do you think you are?

>> No.43051105

>>43051006
>>43051047
Rayshifting is possible for Sialim in Extra worlds, and Siom knows about it in Back Alliance Nightmate so I don't see why it wouldn't be a thing.

>> No.43051142

>>43051081
That's literally every single of his works.

>> No.43051153

>>43051105
>Rayshifting is possible for Sialim in Extra worlds,
Because Chaldea and Animusphere exist in that manga.

>and Siom knows about it in Back Alliance Nightmate so I don't see why it wouldn't be a thing.
Are you fucking comparing a game lore that got retconned to high heavens with a recent published manga? Sion's now younger than Olga so Melty Blood literally never happens.

>> No.43051166

>>43051153
Also, the point is that Sion barely can replicate the system and is weak as fuck pale imitation of real rayshifting.

>> No.43051178

>>43051081
TM works on papers, rocks, and scissors, not "powerscaling."

>> No.43051189

>>43051081
Nigga this is on a franchise that has EMIYA losing to Shirou because "he couldn't see through his determination" even though he was stronger.

>> No.43051216

>>43051006
Ok. Doesn't matter much for my original point of it being weird how they can't possibly see a different future if they can run simulations. Trouble shooting is quite literally their thing.

>> No.43051231

>>43051216
There's literally the point for Atlas (and Chaldea) they are obsessed with one set future that ignores the future is "ever-changing," anon. The Melty Blood crossover manga basically denounced that.

>> No.43051234

>>43051178
This only holds true to a point. Chaldea has access to a library of Servants and still decided they needed a specific weapon to deal with the Alien God.

>> No.43051253

>>43051234
Yes, that's the rock to Brolga's assumed paper. It's all about compatibility.

>> No.43051278

>>43051234
That's the whole point: compatibility is important, and the Servants Chaldea summon are never at full power. Herk doesn't even have access to 12 Lives, his revival is limited. There's a difference between Servants juiced and boosted in specific setting (like how they were in Solomon, now with 'defender of humanity' boost in a memorial retcon) and the usual ones that are summoned in Chaldea. They don't have endless resources. That's why they require Guda to blow a CS to give them mana sometimes that they require for a NP. They pull numbers and quantity over quality when they have access to all in very limited settings.

>> No.43051288

>>43051253
It's not rock, it's literally because Servants don't have enough raw power. That's all there is to it. It has literally nothing to dobe with compatibility.

>> No.43051298

>>43051288
This is only because they didn't know U Olga's weakness or what is her deal, so they naturally assumed something that was wrong.

>> No.43051307

>>43051278
You're not refuting my point.

>> No.43051328

>>43051298
They literally mention they need a planetary class weapon to deal with a planetary being because anything else falls short. She never had any weakness in the first place. You can't always assume any enemy has one that can easily be exploited. Plus knowledge itself is a resource so that's just an excuse.

>> No.43051334

>>43051307
What's there to refute? They failed to deal with Olga because they tried to bruteforce it, instead of trying to debuff and seek the real counter. They just jumped on retarded assumptions because Sion suspiciously keeps misleading them.

>> No.43051345

>>43051328
>they
Sion does who has been wrong on multiple occasions. She was wrong about the Holy sword and Holy Spear being Olga's weakness.

>She never had any weakness in the first place.
Tezca just tore out her heart. She does have weaknesses. There wasn't someone competent or reliable to be on her case as they were on Kama and other Beasts.

>> No.43051399

>>43051345
It was a fair assumption based on their limited knowledge given she was literally said to be an alien god.
>tore out her heart
After a stellar class being slapped her around. Tezca tearing her heart afterwards is literally not compatibility, merely taking advantage after someone else did the work.

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good night tmg

>> No.43052711

>>43051399
>It was a fair assumption based on their limited knowledge given she was literally said to be an alien god.
We don't know because Sion's agenda is still a mystery.
Point is that for EVERY single Beast that isn't a Lost case, there's some quest of deus ex machina to debuff them to fuck up their AUTHORITIES and conceptual buffs FIRST, then you do your thing. This was never the cause for Brolga because Sion either sabotaged us with the pointless Holy Weapon quest or she was just an incompetent bitch.
>After a stellar class being slapped her around.
She wasn't even bleeding.

>> No.43053032

>>43051081
you wouldn't believe what happens in literally every story ever

>> No.43053063

>>43051893
God I love arc so much

>> No.43054654

>>43052711
>pointless
Yeah it sure was pointlesss and played no role when dealing with ORT. Oh wait.
Olga was just more powerful than the other Beasts you faced due to her energy output, not any conceptual buff.

>> No.43054809

>>43047011
>>43047046

Redpill me on this dude. He created a Pseudo Earth and is labeled enemy of the universe for what end goals? Is it once more some autism godhood villain shit nips love to bring over and over?

>> No.43055100

>>43054809
there's nothing to tell you because despite part 2 having run for over 5 years there are no actual answers. He hasn't even have an ingame sprite.

>> No.43056231

>>43051081
>taking powerlevels seriously
I'm just here to laugh at you.

>> No.43056321

>>43054809
He’s trying to get the Sixth magic in his own way. Think he already mentioned that. He’s a dumb OC that’s super special and better than everyone so never been a fan of his.

>> No.43056429

>>43056321
Really? Is that confirmed or even hinted? The Sixth Magic is a Melty Blood thing and it's a major unknown on what it entails.

>> No.43056854

>>43056231
ORT was literally all powerlevels. If it gets defeated by a weaker character then it means it has nothing going for it. Also since ORT's weakness was immortality then that means Ciel > ORT, and that's dumb.

>> No.43056982

>>43056854
That's what happens when most of the "story" gets put in a shitty gatcha. You only have yourself to blame if you expected anything more.

>> No.43057514

>>43056854
>it means it has nothing going for it.
It never had anything going for it, it's a strong thing in a media property where that usually means you lose and get flexed on by 1 to 3 high schoolers.

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>there was no ciel dino because she would have probably solo'd

>> No.43057701

I want brachio Akiha, imagine her longass neck.

>> No.43058698

Lumina reaches 400K copies sold. Probably some announcements at evo japan in a few days too.
https://twitter.com/famitsu/status/1640655025616846850

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>>43056854
>Also since ORT's weakness was immortality then that means Ciel > ORT

>> No.43058812

>>43058698
>announcements
New Melty DLC character? I'm not getting my hopes up though.

>> No.43058853

>>43058698
wow more fgo trash characters thank you nasu

>> No.43058926

>>43058698
Cool, can't wait for the Caster Artoria DLC announcement

>> No.43058968

>>43058698
My bet's on Ryougi and Touko.
>Touko for Mahoyo movie plug
>Ryougi for fanservice
>too far out from red garden release to add far side characters
I wish they'd add kerry tho

>> No.43059006

>>43058812
Yeah and hopefully a roadmap too.
Seeing as Len was teased at the end of the last story, she's probably a safe bet.

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>>43058726

>> No.43059075

>>43059013
Camazotz-sama...

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>> No.43059206

>>43058812
It's Len

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>>43058726
>No sells Dantes
>would no sell ORT
fatebros? what happened...

>> No.43059231

>>43059224
>>No sells Dantes
Edmond won that fight, didn't he? The campaign continued

>> No.43059248

>>43059231
That doesn't mean they win the fight, that just means it doesn't end. Vlov is Kohaku's boss fight that doesn't really mean anything
The flames don't do anything to Ciel explicitly. He can't kill her.

>> No.43059257

>>43059224
ORT has the fifth DAA Idea Blood so it can still remain relevant in the new Tsukihime continuity.

>> No.43059317

>>43059248
So she says.

>> No.43059324

>>43059317
Yes and? Are you going to claim that Nasu made Ciel lie there for no reason and confuse all readers?

>> No.43059329

>>43059324
Because priests never lie in the nasuverse?

>> No.43059332

>>43059329
>Ciel
>priest
stop going full retard please

>> No.43059339

>>43059332
Nuns are just femPriests anon.

>> No.43059353

>>43058968
>not more fgo characters
you think way too highly of TM

>> No.43059354

>>43059339
>Nuns

>> No.43059357

>>43059339
1. Nuns are not the same thing as priests not even remotely.
2. Ciel isn't a nun either what the fuck is wrong with you dude.

>> No.43059370

>>43059357
Oh yeah? Then I guess the habit she wears is just for show then, huh?
Regardless, there's nothing actually stating Edmond lost that battle besides Ciel being cocky, and then the campaign continues.
She would almost certainly defeat Edmond in a fight but her comment about Edmond's flames seems unreliable

>> No.43059383

>>43059370
Are all FGO niggers this retarded? She's an exorcist. Try reading the VN.

>> No.43059389

>>43059370
She stated she experienced his flames since Edmond's flames are a mystic code from the assembly of the eight sacrament. And the Church used a bunch of things on Ciel while she was immortal in an attempt to kill her/cleanse her of her sins, so she is likely correct.

>> No.43059395

>>43059389
Wouldn't that mean that the church had recovered Edmond's magic crest?

>> No.43059419

>>43059389
It would be very weird to go out of your way to explain a very "vs battle interaction" situation that needs a crossover to occur incorrectly just to mislead the reader, but never show it being wrong
There's nothing that contradicts the statement and it flows logically so you shouldn't have a real reason to doubt it

>> No.43059431

>>43059419
Then that means Edmond shouldn't be able to do damage to Ciel, but we know he can because otherwise the game would be broken
Refute that, I dare you.

>> No.43059448

>>43059431
Well yes, Ciel having an infinite health bar against everyone but Shiki wouldn't be good game design.

>> No.43059451

>>43059431
By this logic, Miyako can kill Vlov. I can't tell if you're just trolling or if you're genuinely this fucking retarded. In case it isn't somehow isn't clear by now, the tidbits of battle dialogue you get in MB sometimes do drop important information like in this case.

>> No.43059455

>>43059431
Game dev-sama... I kneel!

>> No.43059465

>>43059431
Just like how Edmond should move way too fast for Ciel or just about anyone in Melty to hit him but doesn't because the game would be WAY too dank.
I think Edmond is the 2nd fastest nasuverse character behind Achilles

>> No.43059539

>>43059465
Dioscuri are faster than light. Meltlilith can achieve that speed as well. But a Servant vessel can't withstand that speed. Arc should be able to move faster than light as well.

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>>43058926
This but semi-ironically
>>43058968
My bet is Len and Touko. But I would love Neco-Arc Vlov.
>>43059353
Why would Nasu ever lie and/or go back on his word?

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>>43058926
just like ushi this whore will never be able to comeback to chaldea

>> No.43059674

>>43059666
In fairness they have good compatibility.
Ushi hunted Tengu and Shiki is a demon hunter

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>You will never be groomed by Taiga
Why live?
https://twitter.com/abc_momoka0718/status/1478026370718789632

>> No.43061145

>>43059666
There's already an Ushi in Chaldea. Melty Ushi is another copy.

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>>43007367
Touko's are minimum

>> No.43061439

>>43060019
where is she going?

>> No.43061714

>>43061439
Read the filename, dude

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>>43061714
Don't tell me what to do

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The only reason I would ever want a FSN remake is a route where someone becomes the 3rd Magician.

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>>43059317
he says something to similar effect, to be fair
he has 2 ciel win screen, this is the normal non-arcade mode one

>> No.43065751

>>43064666
Also Dantes' flames deal damage in proportion to the target's sins IIRC. Ciel was made to experience the same pain as the victims she killed while she was Roa so she is pretty much sinless, that's why she is even working with the Church in the first place.

>> No.43067224

>>43062784
While FSN remake might be cool, the problem is that TM wasting decades to make visual novels, and they are mortal beings. Let's say, if we'll be very lucky, TM will make 2 or even 3 VNs in the next 20 years.
By that time both Nasu and Takeuchi will go into their 70s and will start to lose their minds, or maybe they will die by that point.
I will prefer something new instead of wasting another entire VN title on the remake.
Also there's a problem that I too will become a fucking fossil in the next 20 years. Surely will be fun to read another fucking fate in my 50s

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>>43062784
I just want to fuck Rider

>> No.43067297

>>43067224
The only things I want from TM at this point is Red Garden, Arc's True and a Tsukihime 2. After that Nasu can delegate writing to other people.
There is nothing from Fate I'm looking forward to.

>> No.43067327

>>43067297
>Tsukihime 2
lol

>> No.43067342

>>43067297
what about the rest of mahoyo anon

>> No.43067378

>>43067224
It's pretty obvious with the current direction of Type Moon, and Nasu's comment about potentially continuing Mahoyo through another medium, that Red Garden will be the last visual novel produced by Type Moon. Visual novels are simply not worth the effort anymore.

>> No.43067381

>>43067342
modern Nasu is incapable of writing the mahoyo I want.

>> No.43067396

>>43067327
Nasu has expressed desire to do it. It's unironicall more viable than a FSN remake.

>> No.43067412

>>43067224
>While FSN remake might be cool
It wouldn't.

>> No.43067949

>>43067378
At least that one more new VN that what we're getting from nitroplus haha.

>> No.43068096

>>43067378
I wouldn't be surprised if they just kept doing more Melty Blood and FGO stuff. It has to be much easier for them

>> No.43068151

>>43067378
How about releasing a fucking book if visual novel is too hard to make

>> No.43068177

>>43068096
Problem is that a lot of Melty Blood content is being left on the table because Red Garden hasn't come out so they weren't able to do a proper Melty Blood game like originally it was meant to be.

>> No.43068203

>>43068151
I wouldn't mind Nasu writing another LN series instead of whatever trash sakurai writes.

>> No.43068232

bookcels kneeling before the gameplay chad

>> No.43068260

>>43068232
The various minigames in HA have better gameplay than Type-Moon's actual gameplay stuff sans Melty Blood.

>> No.43068280

>>43068151
Don't worry anon, Nasu said he'd write DDD 3 after Mahoyo.

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Do you accept niggas calling us "Type-Lunatics" or is there something better?

>> No.43068874

>>43068486
Type-Looney sounds funnier

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Where can I get raws for Fate/Requiem. Why do Type-Shitters always push their shitty translations instead of original material.

>> No.43069194

>>43069146
>wanting to read some kuso fate spinoff
Just pick almost anything else

>> No.43069207

>>43069194
I just want Fate but Pokemon

>> No.43069412

I want to see the alternate universe where DEEN made a Heaven's Feel movie and just 1 movie.

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>>43069412

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I just noticed something in the definition of Event Storage:

>The gravitational sphere that appeared at Arcueid's feet when she had become an Astral Body was of a scale great enough to store the entire planet's texture.
>the entire planet's texture

It says the planet's texture, not humanity's texture, but the planet's. The Katsuki Kouhon entry does say all textures on Earth, but I digress, I want to focus on the Tsukihime Material entry. So what's the planet's texture? I think it's rather obvious it's the conceptual universe shown in the Retrograde Canal/Celestial Conception scene. Earlier when Arc's Luminary form is taking shape we get this:

>Never before has such a density of magical energy been observed.
>The heat of the absorbed events are condensed unto the Focality.
>One could then infer that it is a type of Principle.

This clearly means the events absorbed through Event Storage where encased inside Arc's energy body, which is why the conceptual universe sprouts out of Arc's energy body later on.

It's quite impressive. I still can't get over how powerful this ability actually is, if it can even be called that.

>> No.43069615

>>43069558
Why did Nasu make Remake Arc so powerful? I think she can give the Servantverse characters a run for their money, and they are meant to be joke characters.

>> No.43069620

>>43069615
Blond girl fetish

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>>43069412
Now that I think about it there is a strange pattern I've noticed with Fate adaptations. DEEN made Fate anime with a UBW movie. UFOtable made a UBW anime with HF movies. Considering the pattern, the next step is another studio making a HF movie with a Fate movie(s).

>> No.43069704

>>43069699
HF anime*

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>>43069699
It's their time

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Happy Birthday to /tmg/'s favorite Type-Moon heroine!

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Just finished the original Tsukihime for the first time

>> No.43070756

>>43070745
So who is the best girl and which is the best route?

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Hello, /tmg/sisters this is a welcome from an 07thfag

>> No.43070843

>>43070745
Which route was your favorite? What did you enjoy the most about the experience?

>> No.43070946

>>43070606
God kallen in a bunny suit is so fucking hot I want to marry and hug her

>> No.43071033

>>43070946
>>43070606
No, fuck you >>>/a/ is that way

>> No.43071040

>>43070756
Recency bias is speaking but best girl for me right now has to be Kohaku and best route probably Hisui's.
>>43070843
What I've enjoyed overall the most is by far the twins, both them as characters and their routes. I was very surprised at Hisui's true end. I feel like I need a day or so to recover my heart honestly. I took a long time with every other route because of busy irl stuff, but I read Hisui and Kohaku's back to back because I was too engaged.
It was also very interesting seeing how much Tsukihime has clearly inspired other VNs I've read, mainly Higurashi and Umineko.
Very excited for far side in the remake, I especially hope Kohaku's route will be better because although I really enjoyed it , it definitely did feel rushed. Went in completely blind so when I was on Kohaku's true end I was really excited to get onto her good end. Hah...

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>>43071033
huh? wut u mean

>> No.43071219

>>43071040
Nice to see an anon is enlightened by the maids. I suspect their routes in Red Garden will be dramatically different and probably cause some controversy around here.

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>>43071219
How so?

>> No.43071270

>>43071244
The "different = bad" crowd will inevitably throw a fit regardless of what the result will be. Slight chance Kohaku being constantly raped gets retconned. We'll see I guess.

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>>43070606
>>43071201
My favorite buttslut

>> No.43072419

>>43064666
Because due to his mindset (avenger), his flames burn what he judges as sins. He judged Ciel as sinless (a victim). Since Dantes despite his edgelord does not hurt the innocent. He's like... Ghost Rider's penance stare. It was important for her to forgive herself by such judgment. She also couldn't do shit to him and she whipped the 7th on the wrong assumption he was a wraith.

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>>43054809
Marisbury Animusphere (or MALICEbury) is the Lord of Astromancy, age unknown, holder of the third Atlas contract, created Chaldea, the Fate system, rayshifting, demi Servants, and a lot of shit. Including LAPLACE, a system that records everything, and a pseudo conceptual celestial body called CHALDEAS to simulate history and the future in 100 years to detect threats. But this globe was a real planet all along, Earth 2.0. That's why Daybit gambled with a star eater.

We don't know exactly his goals or reasons, but I can tell you that the whole "he wants the root" is bullshit. He never says he gives a single fuck about the Root, the Animusphere family might have, but Kirei says "that childish dream ends" with this. Lord El Melloi Adventures make clear those the Root was never the endgame or goal for mages, but means of ends to advance magecraft toward the future after the Ages of Gods with the death of mystery, but other groups and magecraft forms don't give a single fuck about it. And most old families of western mages don't either: they care about their Grand Orders. The Root, in some cases, are means to an end to those, but not what they give a fuck for.

Before he shoot his own brains out, Marisbury said "My Life or the security of the Human Order? Well, that goes without a question." So we can give an educated guess that's what he wishes: the security of the Human Order. It may be at the expense of the universe to ensure it. Daybit said "everything become hollowed." Andthe celestial bodies becoming hollow are in their family spell. His pupil, Kirschtaria Wodime, demonstrated Astromancers' ideal magecraft is not to divine the future through celestial bodies, but to control them and use them as a magic circuit; they can use and manipulate the cosmos for real, but their magecraft got downgranded in the Age of Men. In his case, he could utilized what belonged in Olympus Lostbelt firmament as his magic circuits. Now Marisbury has the map of all the real universe thanks to Daybit's grand order to be a good helpful human. Tie this with Arc line in the beginning of the crossover manga that was meant to foreshadow all this shit: that humanity's progress (evolution) would destroy the universe. Basically, Type Moon phase 2 (Nasu's capeshit words) is consumerism and he included FGO into the three works he explores this (started with Mahoyo, touched it on TsukiRE briefly, and concludes in FGO).

>> No.43072475

>>43056429
The 6th magic is the ability to create matter from nothing, but only soup.

>> No.43072482

>>43072475
>behold, my ultimate power!

>> No.43073156

How can Shinji be the school Chad when he's only 167 cm

>> No.43073500

>>43072419
>She also couldn't do shit to him
[Citation Needed]
There is no description of how Ciel did period. Only that Dantes can't hurt her

>> No.43073608

>>43072419
How do you make the argument that Dantes views Ciel as sinless already when he knows and tells her to continue atoning for her sins? Both Arcade and Normal versions have the continued atonement.

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>...

>> No.43074059

>>43073156
Japanese people are short.

>> No.43074140

>>43073500
There is. She tried to kill him for good and failed. Read her lines. Dantes speaks of the Scripture in his route line.

>> No.43074159

>>43073608
Having sins=/= sins that require punishment/his jugdement. He basically is vengance but a point of his lore is that he will not use his flames UNLESS the person is evil.

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>>43074140
lmao, this is literally the only line Ciel gives Dantes. Both in the storyline and vs mode. Normal Ciel also only has generic win lines for him. Also, Ciel is always using the Scripture in her powered mode, the Scripture has several different modes ranging from guns to sword and pilebunker.

>> No.43075114

>>43074140
Ciel has no character specific lines for Dantes at all, outside the story where again she tells him nothing is gonna happen and why(which again, he repeats). Drop the lines if you got em

>> No.43075140

>Ciel: this will not work
>Dantes: this does not work! kuhahaha!
>some guy: um actually

>> No.43075175

>>43075140
Post the lines. Shouldn't be hard at all, provided they actually exist and you're not just making shit up.

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>> No.43075832

>>43075821
w-what was she planning to do with her?

>> No.43076185

>>43074140
>She tried to kill him for good and failed. Read her lines.
At no point is this even implied anywhere you lying jackass.

>> No.43077955

>>43075832
To stay the FUCK away from nii-san!

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