/jp/ - Otaku Culture

72.193.17.244:10800 West Coast

New tier, don't mind experienced players though, good practice I guess. Someone join, please?

190.232.35.184:10800

Freezing tier.

>>4289578
Good games, Lurker. I think I'm all Soku'd out for now. I was really surprised when you decided to face me using all of my secondaries! Your Sakuya and Tenshi were pretty good.

>>4289595
Oh no, a.a.! What happened to our connection? ;_;

We should still have some laggy games now and then, just so you can show me how to properly flowchart with Sakuya.a.

>>4289885
I only used Tenshi because while I enjoy playing as her (and used to have her as a secondary), I haven't really bothered with her much in Soku. I think it's because having to press 6 to get a drill rock to come out is too much effort for me.

I've been messing around with Marisa lately but I'm really awful at her so derp.

>>4289922
It feels like they nerfed Tenshi's 66C in 1.10, but it could just be my imagination. I swear I remember it having more graze frames, though.

My Marisa is probably just as bad if not worse than yours, but that Busky Sweeper change is just painful. Ah well, I have my hands full with Meiling, Sakuya, Tenshi, and Cirno anyway.

>>4289946
They nerfed just about every 66C (Cirno's was nerfed the least, unfortunately). Tenshi's used to be able to graze as soon as you use it I'm pretty sure.

The new bosky sweeper makes me sadface.

>>4289680
GGs, I gotta sleep now.

>>4290040
Great games, thanks for the beating... -____-

Hosting again. West Coast
>>4289680

>It feels like they nerfed Tenshi's 66C in 1.10
Everyone's graze attack was changed so that they no longer have start up graze.

65.38.17.252:10800
Casual
No experience playing people.
Not yet used to the 1.10 changes, but I'll go for it!

>>4290085
Can't connect. Forwarded you're ports?

Rehosting >>4289824

>>4290085
Also, does you're game say 1.10 when you boot it? UNL patches tend to install one directory level deeper than they should so all the stuff might be in a sub directory beneath you're UNL.exe rather than over you're UNL.exe

>>4289824

Sorry Komachisa, I can't stand your random lag spikes anymore. GGs..

I netplayed with 1.10 for the first time last night, so I don't have any problems there. I think my timing is just bad.

>>4289824
Good games Nipah. Man, has Cirno been buffed in v1.10! In the early games I was completely shocked by the new skills since I had not seen them before. I don't think I can beat you in the Cirno mirrors anymore. Nice to see some things haven't changed--the lag, and your projectile zoning tactics.

GGs Komachisa. I got tired of those random lag spikes, at that speed of the game I couldn't really catch you by surprise with the traps/spikes.

Rehosting one last time >>4289824

>>4290144
Hosting takes a bit of router magic, even if you can join games just fine.

>>4289885
>Oh no, a.a.! What happened to our connection? ;_;
I moved, and my new Internet is considerably slower than from the last place (and even back then we used to get a fair amount of lag). I guess we can play again now and then when we want to do bullet-time battles!

>>4289946
>Busky Sweeper change is just painful
Wait, what? Today's the first day I netplayed since switching to v1.10, so there's still a ton of changes I'm unaware of. Was the horizontal range greatly reduced or recovery period longer or something?

>>4290156

Sorry, a bit too laggy for me. Good game, though.

>>4290156

Uhh... What happened Orion? I didn't feel it lag.

GGs anyway. I will rehost.

>>4290187
>Was the horizontal range greatly reduced or recovery period longer or something?
Even worse, it no longer grazes.

>>4290187
It no longer grazes. It's still good for combos, but it isn't a good idea to just throw out psychic Busky Sweepers to catch someone about to toss out a projectile anymore.

You know, if you guys all lived on the Best...er, on the West Coast, things like this wouldn't happen!

>>4290187

"623b/c Busky Sweeper no longer grazes but now allows to dash after the animation end. The skill now has more recovery and at level MAX, the hitbox of the attack will increase."

So no graze frames and more recovery frames, alas.

>>4290213
Oh, you gotta be kidding me! Time to fix my Marisa deck, dang it.

72.204.40.189
US Midwest
First time hosting with 1.10, hopefully that and all my Melty Blood habits won't ruin me completely.

>>4290218
Seriously? Goddammit tasofro, what are you doing.

Is there a link to a full installed/patched version of hisoutensoku? I'd like to play.

Holy hell am I bad. Or is Cirno just good? Either way, I need more experience.
Thanks for the games, Nipah! Lulz at the fluke wins.

>>4290255
SWR
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ZCJ2AZ09
12.3
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=7rctg0gi

I don't know if they're patched or not but in case they aren't just get the latest patches for both here
http://www.tasofro.net/touhou105/index.html
http://www.tasofro.net/touhou123/index.html..
Don't forget to open up configex123.ini in your 12.3 folder and reference the path to your SWR folder under [th105path] so you can play with all of the characters.

>>4290451

GGs. Careful with the katamari, don't try to outfly it if it is already too big.

GGs jamitin.

Still have no clue how I'm supposed to learn how to play this. I'm assuming it has a tutorial, but it'll be in moon. Or is it the case that I'll pick it up after playing enough?

The only fighting games I've really played are shit like ssb where you only have like 2 attacks, along with not having to memorize anything

>>4290532
Here's the wiki: http://hisouten.koumakan.jp/wiki/Main_Page

It has general information, character specific moves and strategies, weather information, system card information, and more. A combination of reading that and playing against people will get you used to the game fairly quickly.

>>4290522
Great games, that was a lot of fun with a lot of intense moments. Hope you didn't mind me only using Sakuya too much.

>>4290233
Good games Rufus! Remember to post your port number for next time. Yeowch, you have a pretty good Marisa, flying in diagonal directions really throws me for a loop. I think I lucked out for a lot of those matches.

>>4290451
Nipah is pretty good with Cirno, so don't feel too bad.

>>4290569
Posting my IP for Meltan probably got me in the habit of not posting the port, my bad. Good games, and sorry for being so rusty. Although I think no matter how familiar I make myself with the game, my reflexes will always put me a step behind. In any case, I should start playing regularly more often now, hopefully.

Any Sakuya mains have any pointers? Or a good blockstring?

any hosts?

124.189.232.164:10800 Australia - Awesome tier (For Australia)

>Awesome tier (For Australia)

This means nothing.

>>4291031
GGs

>>4291031

Sorry about this, but I found another australian I haven't played yet. ggs

>>4291040

Your face means nothing

>>4291148

Probably. I don't think faces are supposed to have meaning.

Looking...

85.29.80.187:10800
Finland

>>4291552
Bump for players.

>>4290058
I guess they messed up somewhere because suika 66b still grazes on the first frame.

>>4291874

Tested, and no, Suika's 66b does not graze on the first frame.

hosts?

>>4291552
Good beatings, Idler! Seriously stop playing so well with all the characters. And I should stop sucking as well, that would help. I don't remember winning any match against you, today. I ate so much spellcards that I stopped counting them around the 20th. I'm starting to think that I can't improve anymore with Suika, maybe I should try some other characters.

See you around next time, it's really nice to play without any delay at all, even when your opponent beats the crap out of you.

>>4292412
GGs _Akagi_.
I have a match in another game later today, so I had to leave for now.

I'm a lot better with Youmu than any other character, but my main problem against your Suika is that Youmu has no good graze attacks, which makes it a lot harder to attack you. Alt 214 was the only proper graze attack, but it takes forever to start now. Overall, I won many matches thanks Youmu's AAA to spellcard -combos.

Looks like Overhead Flower-Pruning Slash is useless against Suika, you always had some projectiles in the air so I couldn't use it.

Btw, when you use Missing Purple Power, you could try using some other punches than the straight punch and the ground punch that creates a wave. When wrongblocked, all punches in giant form are a guard crush, I think. Now I could block all your attacks even in the corner.

>>4292230
Most grazing specials still graze on startup like Yukaris parasol spin, Remis 236, Sakuyas 623, Tenshis 623, Youmus 623c and surprisingly Yuyus fanspin.
This makes me wonder what exactly they were trying to get rid of.

>>4292455
>When wrongblocked, all punches in giant form are a guard crush, I think.

Haha, I didn't even know that. Thanks for the tip, I'll try to add some other punches, that'll definitely be more efficient than: a 2c 2c 2c a. I'm sure some good Suika player can tell me what usueful strings there are when using MPP.

Also
>I have a match in another game later today
Which game?

>>4292230
Would have made more sense if it said 'truth'busters

>>4292230
I guess since she leans forward during her dash, she dissolves bullets before the graze attack starts.

>>4292510
wakarimasen lol

>>4292523
>Which game?
TrackMania United.
I'm usually not into racing games, but this is an exception, as it's a really unique game. Team-based competitions are pretty common in TM.

>>4292575

Does the bottom of that ramp really need arrows? I would hope they'd know which way they are suppose to go.

>>4292598
Those arrows are probably turbo boost like those found in CTR and Mario Kart.

>>4292575
This game look interesting. Is it free?

>>4292575
Kinda looks like Trackmania but not completely sure

>>4292575
Wow, that definitely changes from Soku. Good luck, then!

>>4292598
They are speed boosts. Some environments have red ones, which accelerate the car from 0 to 1000km/h in a second.
The tracks are of course just as crazy:
This picture is taken from bumper camera.

>>4292630
Now this is Trackmania

>>4292629
Thanks.

>>4292611
There's a free version that has one of the 7 environments.

89.79.241.99:10800
EU, Remi only, casual.

>>4293136
Good games.
Sorry to leave so soon after joining but I've got somewhere to go.

>>4292523
bump for hosts

>>4293136
GGs Duckator!
Rehosting.

>>4290732
If you can, try to watch Duckator play. I don't really remember what he does with Sakuya, but I've never beaten him in a Sakuya mirror yet.

As for myself, I use hj(7,8,9) j.5C for approaching.

Blockstrings: 5AAAA (slightly stagger the last hit, will catch people too eager to escape with dashing and jumping). Once people start blocking, consider (5AA / 5A) 5B hj9 j.2B j.6D j.6A as a way for pushing people toward the corner. Another mixup is 5A(A) 6A 6A / 5B. 6A after 6A is an interesting frametrap that catches people trying to dash forward expecting 5B (Guy used it to great effect against me yesterday). 5B will spirit drain and help push to the corner.

In the corner, try something like (5A / 5AA / 5AAA / 5A 6A / 5AA 6A / 2A / 2A 6A) 2B hj9 (j.2A j.2B / j.2B) j.6D (j.5A / j.5A j.2A / j.5A j.2A j.2B j.6D j.5A j.2A) reset. Everything after getting your opponent to block 2B is essentially airtight, virtually guaranteeing an orb crush on the blockstring or first repetition of it unless your opponent knows when to Border Escape.

Hosts?

>>4293136
GGs gii! I'm terrible with any other character than Remi.
Rehosting.

>>4293136
GGs Oneket!
Rehosting.

>>4293673
Bubbles, bubbles, bubbles! I have to put them in my main deck, I just can't use those swords. I must learn what is good for me! Thank you for hosting

>>4293863

Try them if you like Anon, but you can actually pull off some crazy shit with swords if you practice!

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm9546384

>>4294099
Awesome Remilia.

>5AAA
>j.2B

Desunonymous here, what the fuck are you guys speaking, I don't conprehend this strange lenguage

>>4294151
Look at your alphanumeric keypad for the directions (2 is down, 6 is front, 4 is back, 5 is nothing). Then, j=jump, and a, b, c are the three attack buttons.

>>4293136

GGs Remi. My rage over missed inputs is out of the scale. Funny how often you felt for traps. I should do trap, wait followed by icecar in case of you trying to grace the trap more often.

>>4294170
Wow, that was simple huh?

>>4294151

http://hisouten.koumakan.jp/wiki/Controls

>>4294187
No way in hell I'm going to play with remi again... it's like he the only one I battle over here

>>4294205

Sure, I will take it.

201.230.30.22:10800

Freezing tier.

>>4293136
GGs Nipah. Cool traps, once I fell for one of them it was hard to get back to my usual flow. I'll think of something to counter this the next time we meet.

>>4294228
Nice Ip there, I wonder where are you from

>>4294228
AKAAAGIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII

201.27.236.1:10800

Desunonymous here "I suck" tier

>>4294228

GGs Akagi. Playing with Remi made me get used to input keys slow to the point I screwed everything in our matches. You should have given me more time.

Rehosting.

>>4294228
GGs Nipah! Man, I wish we could fight without dropping half of our inputs, I'm sure we'd have a lot of fun... I leave my place to somebody else, sadly.

68.33.161.2:07500 ec

>>4294325
Rehosting, etc

>>4294362
I'll take you on man, you are a fucker who is going down, I'm desunonymous and my IP is there, I lack will to search it just like 7 posts above

Rehosting >>4294228

>>4293136
rehosting

>>4294355
Good games, akagi.

>>4294355
>anonymous

Ouch. GGs anyway!

>>4294449

GGs desunonymous. You should spam the screen more. Yuyuko players focus on keeping the opponent blocking all the time. If he is grazing, go melee. Yuyuko has a good melee range.

At first I was like:
"He rolls the ball again and gets me, how original"

But then I:
"what is that, what is this, what the fuck is going on here"

Fuck you nippa
The first games where very boring, but it got pretty interesting from there on

>>4294694

72.193.17.244:10800 wc

new tier

>>4294718

You would be surprised how often Yuyuko players fall for the ball. Katamari can resist some of the butterflies, enough to get under you.

I have a problem here, and just thought somebody may give an advice or two.
I play via keyboard and can't bring myself to use any 3-digit moves such as 236b or 421c etc. I just can't input them correctly no matter how hard I tried. They coming up almost absolutely random which is a huge problem for me.
Maybe there's something what can help me?

>>4294965
Buy a pad

>>4294973
I thought about that but my friend told me it's even harder to do with a pad.

>>4294866
Well, ZUN was right when he gave her a ⑨.

>>4294965

I play with Keyboard. Just input them slow at first. One by one. The most troublesome is 623 inputs. I press 236236 really fast and it comes out as 623.

>>4294993
I have a pad, wich has a really crap D-pad, holy fuck, it sucks, it sucks BADLY, if it's your case keyboard is the best one, just practise, we are on the same boat

>>4294993
Your friend is a scrub.

All pro Japanese IaMP and SWRS players use USB saturn pads.

>>4295010
Saturn? Seriously?

That's the D-pad I just told it sucks, it's on the same style, but not actually the Saturn one, for some reason I find it really hard to play anything in it

>>4294993

See it for yourself, before people start to flame me:
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm9569199
(Japanese offline tournament)

Before every match you can hear the Window's sound for plugging/unplugging a device, and players configure their controls before each match.

No one remotely decent uses the keyboard in Japan.

>>4295010
>All pro Japanese IaMP and SWRS players
>pro
>swrs

>>4295043
>No one remotely decent uses the keyboard in Japan.

oh boy, that line is pure gold

>>4295033

The saturn pad is widely considered the best pad ever for fighting games.

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>>4294355
hosting

>>4295057

I have actual proof backing up my statements. You?

Rehosting >>4294228

>>4295068
I see, since I don't played that many fighters, and played more often adventure games, like Megaman and shit, it was a bad controller for me.

Also, I don't know if it's just me, but it feels like I have to make so much strength on my thumb to my D-pad to work in any direction, specially foward, it sucks must get used to it

>>4295033

it just takes practice

>>4295068

I've never used one, actually. I usually just use my old PS2 controller with a USB converter. I've always loved the PS2 controller. Tons of buttons, great d-pad, smooth and small frame for people with girly hands such as myself, and probably a few other things that I'm forgetting

How does the Saturn controller stack up to it? Would you say it's worth hunting down a Saturn controller if you routinely play fighting games on your computer?

>>4295125
just google a Saturn Gamepad on google images, you'll see what's about.
It's great for crazy motherfucking combinations, I have to give it that

>>4295153
Forgot.

Bro-Girly-Fist

>>4295033

Buy this one, if you can:
http://cgi.ebay.com/black-Genuine-SEGA-Saturn-SS-USB-Game-Control-Pad-PS3_W0QQitemZ220548579011QQcmd
ZViewItemQQptZVideo_Games_Accessories?hash=item3359b83ec3

It's much better than the saitek's, ps2, etc d-pads. It won't hurt you finger and you will be able to do the motions easily.

But only buy the ones from Sega ("control pad" boxes), the bootleg American versions suck.

>>4295125

It's MUCH better. Believe me. I had a USB ps2 controller and the Satapad simply destroys it. However, the button layout is the main attraction of the satapad. Much easier to perform multiple button presses, sliding techniques, etc.

Am I the only one playing with an Hori arcade stick?

Seriously, maybe that's just because I'm used to it, but I can't see myself playing with the keyboard or with a pad. Before saying it's overkill, try it.

>>4295153

I know what it looks like, what I want to know about is specifics that can't really be understood by just looking at a picture. I mean, offhand the d-pad looks like complete shit, even the one in that ebay auction. I hate d-pads that have that shitty "plastic webbing" between the 90 degree angle buttons, but I haven't actually used it myself, so I dunno if it actually gets in the way or not

Plus, while the extra buttons on the face are nice, I dunno how much help they'd really be. Usually I can do just fine with the shoulder buttons on a PS2 controller

I dunno, you guys tell me. Is there anyone here that has used both a PS2 and Saturn controller that prefers the Saturn?

71.220.172.168:10800 WC/EC ONLY

Sugoi Casual Advanced lolicon.Taking it easy for tonight.

>>4295192

Samefag from >>4295237 here. I guess this is what I get for not refreshing the page before I hit submit, lawl

Thank you for your feedback. I don't suppose there's a version of the Saturn controller that does not incorporate that atrocious webbing on the d-pad? I don't mean to sound like a stickler, but that shit just drives me insane after using a PS2 for so long

>>4295237

I don't think there's any doubt... the general consensus is that the satapad is the best one.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=&q=%22saturn+pad%22+%22best+pad%22&aq=f&aqi=&oq=

>>4294355
Good games, nameless person.
Since when did you start mashing all the time? It takes the fun out of learning new chars when that's all people do. It's like playing rock paper scissors but only doing rock.

rehosting

GGs

>>4295312

GGs Gant. Apparently it's pretty hard to dodge the katamari with those characters with weird float movements like Sanae and Yuyuko.

Rehosting >>4294228

>>4295296
Good games, I usually don't mash, but since it seem to me like you weren't playing seriously, so I decided to experiment a little. Sorry if you weren't having fun.

>>4295261
kinda laggy

>>4295237
"plastic webbing" between the 90 degree angle buttons,

What, every D-pad have it, be visible or not, being acessible is what makes those perfect for fighting games. Massive thumg sliding works.

>>4295382

All right. If you say so.

71.220.172.168:10800 WC/EC ONLY

Sugoi Casual Advanced lolicon. Eating Ice Cream Sandwich, mmm good.

>>4295400
source?

>>4295333

GGs ZFC, too laggy.

Rehosting.

>>4295237
wait...people use controllers for the dpad? maybe i've been doing it wrong, i've been using the analog stick. 623 is nearly impossible for me but everything else is pretty easy... for some reason the game wouldn't let me use dpad for movement

>>4295411
Good game. And yeah, the lag.

>>4295414
Turn off the analog button

>>4295421
only have a ps3 controller, doesn't seem to have an analog button :( the motionjoy drivers i use can set it to disable analog, but even then the game ignores the dpad.

>>4295436
try to set the pads manually on the control options?

>>4293136
Thanks for the games.

Asking again, as nobody answered: am I the only one who uses an arcade stick to play Soku?

>>4295444
er nevermind, got it.. missed an option in my driver config. is the dpad all that much better? relearning will be hard, but it's not like i'm that good anyways.

Rehosting >>4294228

>>4295452
I guess it really depends on the player experience, but I know people who play, for example, KoF on the keyboard, but can't play on Arcades and do a little better with pads.
I know at least one person for every possible combination of those, so I think your experience is what is really important after all

besides the superior dpad, the whole point of satapad is to 'claw' your fingers over the buttons. use your fingertips instead of thumb. it won't matter much in a game like this since it has macros, but you can have a setup like
a-b-c
d
fingers on abd, thumb on d

>>4295479
wait...macros? what

>>4295479
I... don't even...

You are going to show me a picture of how this shit works, because you lost me

>>4295489
the 'switch cards' button is actually a and b simultaneously. 'cast' is b and c. the last option in the key config says 'use simultaneous presses'.

>>4295495
just pretend satapad is a miniature arcade stick, which it basically is. a stick with a dpad.

>>4293136
GGs Kisume. I liked the Youmu vs Meiling match ups we had, they were fast paced and entertaining. Meiling vs Sakuya were fun too, especially when I tried to catch you with Perfect Maid and you kept on escaping with Spiral Light Step. That brought some excitement into the game. Thanks for the games!

>>4295479

No, it isn't. Claw-style exists but it's not the whole point of the satapad. Don't mislead him or he will be stuck with an inferior controller forever.

>>4295495

Just forget it. It's not needed for IaMP or SWRS. Unless you play Street Fighter, Vampire Savior, etc, just forget it.

what controller do you guys suggest for this game? not for some weird "claw" style shit, just regular playing.

>>4295562
I... I don't think I can... this is just a hideous image I got on my mind, I think I'm going to have nightmares, MAKE IT STOP, WHO THE FUCK DOES THIS SHIT

>>4295565

Saturn pad.

Forget every other controller.

Alright, changing topic here, now that I come to think of it, when I played with nippa he used a card with the Oku's third leg on it, someone care to explain what/where can I find what those "item cards" do?

>>4295572

This is claw-style:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llQlcb9N1G4

However, only kids pretending to be cool play that way. Don't be mislead. People will use thumbs or play with an arcade stick.

Also, IaMP/SWRS doesn't really require multiple button presses. Claw-style is only recommended for games that rely heavily on them. But you should be using arcade sticks, in that case.

The saturn pad is simply better than the ps2, saitek, etc alternatives. It has nothing to do with the claw-style.

>>4294965
Ignoring the huge wall of text talking about controllers and Saturn pads--just practice more. To be honest, I think Hisoutensoku's inputs are extremely easy because I got used to playing IaMP first. The latter has something like a 4-frame window for inputting command moves. Compared to that Hisoutensoku is super lenient.

>>4295575
that pad looks... aids... maybe i'll just stick with my ps3 controller. orz

>>4295592

It was a system card, those give you a boost in something.

See here: http://hisouten.koumakan.jp/wiki/Spellcards#Skill_Cards

>>4295656
You get pussy but also get aids.

Know what? It worths it

well, my dilemma now is to decide on using the (left) analog stick or the dpad. ;_;

>>4295479

I.. think you've managed to just completely turn me off of Saturn pads, because it sounds like the "proper" way to use them forgoes literally every advantage a PS2 controller gives you

Thanks for the suggestion anyway though, I guess

>>4295388

"Visible" plastic webbing, if that's what you wanna call what's between the 90 degree directional buttons in this picture, has been a goddamn plague on the industry that refuses to die. Maybe you enjoy it for some ungodly reason, in which case more power to you. But it does nothing but interfere with you, in my mind

>>4295565

Honestly, if you don't wanna go with this funky "claw" shit that you're hearing about, I'd just go with a regular PS2 controller. Get a USB converter for one if you happen to have an old controller laying around, they're only like 8 bucks or so on ebay iirc. Four shoulder buttons, two analog sticks, all the face buttons you'll ever need, on top of what I maintain to this day is the best d-pad design ever invented. You can't fucking ask for more

If you are gunna be playing other fighting games as well, though, you may consider just getting an arcade stick. Honestly, I've considered switching to an arcade stick, but Hisoutensoku doesn't require anything near the kind of complex inputs that would make an arcade stick worth it. So, if you're just shopping for something for 12.3, a PS2 controller is fine. If you'll be playing other fightans in the future, like maybe Blazblue coming out on the PC, or Street Fighter 4 or something, then consider dropping 20 or 30 dollars on an arcade stick

>>4295689

D-pads > analog sticks (not arcade ones, though). Always.

The saturn's d-pad is better than the ps2 one. Much easier to perform 623 and 421 motions. That's why you all should get it.

>>4295690
have you compared ps2 to ps3 controller? i have no converter right now so i can't use my ps2 controller, but both of their dpads feel pretty much the same.

>>4295730
yeah, 623 is very much my weak spot, i basically don't use them at all, ever, because i can't use them reliably. what turns me off about the 'satapad'(?) is the 6 buttons on the front. i'm so used to using 4, not sure what i'd do with the other 2 buttons except be distracted by them -_-

68.158.4.173:10800
US East
Above beginner level.
US Central / East preferred, otherwise the games will probably lag quite a bit.

First timer here.

I can't seem to get into any games. Anyone help?

>>4295749

Never used a PS3 controller, so I wouldn't know

>>4295788
Use this for a guide: http://hisouten.koumakan.jp/images//0/09/SWR-menu-en.jpg

Generally, if you want to connect to someone, copy their ip then select the 5th option to join. Either you'll connect to them, or if someone already connected first, you'll be given the choice to spectate their matches.

Random question here, don't mean to offend, but do people "macro" (maybe not the right word?) on this game much? I know it's most likely just me not being used to fighting games and how fast people can input shit, but I've been blown away by unbelievably fast spam quite a few times. Is there software/cheats to let you bind moves to a key or something?

>>4295799

This.. is going to sound like a silly question, but I guess I'll ask anyway

Suppose you have absolutely horrible internet. Will spectating a match between two people who have good connections to eachother lag them whereas they would ordinarily be lagless to eachother?

>>4295766
... you were not kidding when you said you never played on a Saturn? Right? I pity your childhood, if only Nintendo hadn't lost their fucking mind of what is important on a Pad...

If the case is only "I never played on it, It different, I mad" just play on it, it's not some impossible bomb you must defuse, it's a Pad, if you are a human, you can adapt to it really quickly if you WANT to.

If you don't want to, keep your Pad, it's important you feel good with your shit, not what other people tell you it's important, you are not "doing it wrong"

I always use the saturn usb controller for regular touhou games. The joint of my thumb keeps A pressed to fire. The tip of my thumb can be pressed down for X, allocated for shift.

B is for Bombs, it's so easy-access.

I tried using the saturn controller for touhou fightan but that shit won't fly, so I use the ps + usb converter.

I keep changing the button allocations until I come up with something that feels right. Nothing that feels perfect yet but it's damn better than the saturn.

Also, the ps controller is a load of shit for regular touhou. the dpad can get slippery as fuck from your sweat and no 3 buttons are close enough to each other for shootin/focusin'/bombin'

Only faggots use a shoulder or trigger for bombs.

>>4295817
I guess where you are from is really important

>>4295817
definitely not. the host will sends you the data of their movement, but unlike against their opponent, it has no regard for received data from you, so the lag would just be on your side

>>4295817
No, it won't.

>>4295769
Stopped hosting because I decided to eat dinner instead. Will try again later, perhaps.

>>4295827

For the purposes of answering this question, suppose I am using a computer at my base on the moon and am trying to watch two Earthlings without shitting up their game with my lag. That is how terrible my internet is

>>4295818
Could you help me out on what Saturn pad to look for? I read somewhere that there's a really shitty bulky US version, and then the much better Japanese version. Not really sure how to tell which is which on eBay... Anything on the box that makes it obvious?

>>4295826
Can't you press X with your thumb joint, have finger ready to bomb at Square and put shift at L1 or R1?

>>4295842

It will not affect them.


... But it would be nice if it did.

>>4295843
see this guy right here
>>4295162

>>4295826
>Also, the ps controller is a load of shit for regular touhou. the dpad can get slippery as fuck from your sweat and no 3 buttons are close enough to each other for shootin/focusin'/bombin'

Well why don't you just use the shoul-

>Only faggots use a shoulder or trigger for bombs.

>>4295843

Yes.

The original ones have the Sega logomark in the controller and have this box:
http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/9663/dsc02778qwu.jpg

http://cgi.ebay.com/black-Genuine-SEGA-Saturn-SS-USB-Game-Control-Pad-PS3_W0QQitemZ220548579011QQcmd
ZViewItemQQptZVideo_Games_Accessories?hash=item3359b83ec3

>>4295843

Bootleg version:
http://imgs.inkfrog.com/pix/powergamer88/blacksaturnusb2.JPG

>>4295860
Yeah, I saw that one. I'll try it out, $20 won't kill me I guess. (No ramen for a week ;_;)

What kind of button layout do you use on that? I use a pretty funky config on my current controller, where I dash with the right bumper. Not too sure what I should do with 6 buttons available though.

>>4295851
>>4295832
>>4295840

Cool, thanks

>>4295555
oh u

>>4295562
what he said

>>4295897
DO NOT
BRING CLAW STYLE DISCUSSION BACK
THAT'S THE MORE HIDEOUS THING I'VE EVER SEEN IN MY LIFE, I FELT SOMEONE VIOLATED A PAD RIGHT IN FRONT OF MY EYES NOW I MAD

>>4295910
lol

>>4295840
Please do. I can't host because of crap connection. I live in East Coast so shouldn't be a problem on your end.

71.8.122.131:10800
US Central

Playing for 1 hour tier

>>4295888

I personally use:

 o o o
O O O

B A [switch spellcard macro]
C D [use spellcard macro]

A being "melee", B as in "weak bullet", C "strong bullet" and D the "fly button".

With my satapad. L being the pause/pratice menu/etc.

I would not recommend using anything other than the d-pad for dashes, though. You will eventually have to master dashing to extend combos (such as Aya's j.5A j.2B dash forward j.5A j.2B dash forward j.5A j.2B 214B [aerial spellcard] or Reimu's j.5A j.6A j.5C airdash backwards j.5A j.6A).

>>4295935
can't connect

>>4295935
Can't connect either. Forward your ports yet?

>>4295939
>>4295954
Sorry, configing decks. I'm hosting now.

>>4295938
Thanks.

I'm a bit confused though, why use multiple buttons for changing/using spell cards when you can assign them to their own buttons? And yeah, I'm pretty new and barely ever dpad dash on ground or air. Really rapes me orbs air dashing, need to get out of that habit. -_-

Rehosting >>4294228

>>4295970

That's what I meant. I was not sure how to explain, though. Saw someone saying macros so went ahead with it. I use the shortcut commands as the third buttons of the rows. I have some problems with English. ;_;

>>4296004
Er, my fault actually, I completely get it now, I just misread your diagram. Thanks :P

>>4295935
GGs Rudder

Don't know if you've been around or are just starting out, but nice Reimu. Like the 66 j.2B and 66A 623s you're using, and if you're a beginner, it's remarkable you know those little things. Kind of hate you left without facing mine for pointers, but maybe some other time. Thanks for the matches.

REHOSTING (for 15 minutes)
71.8.122.131:10800
US Central

15-Minute Blitz tier

>>4295935
Rudder here. GG. You wiped the shit outta me.

>>4295973

GGs Alpaca. You are getting better. Keep it up.

>>4296138
Rudder here again. Sorry to leave so sudden. I was needed for an errand.

Eh, I ain't that good. Still learning the ropes lol. Hope we can have a rematch sometime.

>>4295973

Good games again Nipah. Going to take a short break and come back later.

72.193.22.181:10800

west coast, new

76.171.238.148:10801
U.S. West
High level scrub tier

GGs Eman. Thanks for the beatings.

>>4296138
GGs Nipah

15 mins. have already past, but there's some work I need to attend to. DAMN@ you taking advantage of Tempest like that! And thanks for showing me that nerfed alt623, that's pretty nifty. Maybe when I finally get a chance to practice, I'll make it even more dangerous! Thanks for the matches!

>>4296171

Good games, its pretty fun trying around characters.

>>4296382
ggs :P

rehosting
>>4296171

67.163.49.53:06112
US Central
Oarfish tier
....on an unrelated note, does anybody know how to get Okuu's last spellcard? Is there some sort of trick? I've played tons of matches with her and I still don't have it.

>>4296391
no idea, but you can just download the cards you know, from ze wicky

>>4296391
Good games komachisa, I don't like playing with that delay, though

rehosting

>>4296391
Good games Disco (?). Names didn't show up for some reason, and I hadn't played you before.

Not much to say, that was terribly ugly and counterattacking was almost impossible under those conditions. I didn't think it would lag that much against US Central, but alas I might be forced to give up netplay until I get faster Internet.

>>4296591
how far away are you?

>>4296598
US East. I moved recently and my new Internet is way slower than the previous one. Better than 56k, but apparently not good enough for 12.3 netplay.

>>4296391
Something is definately wrong here. I keep getting desyncs with everyone. We are still on 1.10. right?

What was that all about, Anonymous?

>>4296728
yes

Good games Anonymous. Are you trying to get better with Meiling?

Rehosting >>4294228

>>4296729
DO IT AGAIN, CHEN!

124.148.167.226:10800
australia

>>4297368

GGs Alpaca. We have played so many times that I don't know what else to say. You keep improving.

>>4297368

Alright good games, still can't win once. Keep making the mistake of jumping up and trying to block.

Rehosting >>4294228

>>4297545

GGs as always Remi. Going to bed now.

>>4297545
GGs Nipah.

>>4296391
>....on an unrelated note, does anybody know how to get Okuu's last spellcard? Is there some sort of trick? I've played tons of matches with her and I still don't have it.

Not sure about this, but I think the cards you get after a match are some of the ones you and your opponent used during that match, as well as a few random ones, that are not dependent on the characters you used. Best way to unlock cards is netplay since most players already have all cards unlocked. Of course you could just use the full card unlock file from the wiki:
http://hisouten.koumakan.jp/

>>4297722
what exactly does the /x mean in the card listings? like 4/99, 4/14 and stuff. is there a way to get them all to be /99?

Bump

>>4297783
It's how many cards you have unlocked of that type, although any more than 4 is useless. I had all in 99 in SWR with some characters, it just stops there, although the new ones you get are still counted and transferred to Soku, where the limit is probably 999. I currently have over 400 of some skill cards.

UN-TAN~ UN-TAN~

89.79.241.99:10800
EU, Remi only, casual.

Played a couple of matches as O1av and #hisoutensoku.

My first time, so you beat me up pretty bad :)

76.29.15.231:07500
US Midwest

>>4300096
GGs hisouten/01av. It was you, right? Judging by the gameplay it seems you're just getting started with soku. Create a deck, practice, remember to use dash to avoid getting hit by bullets, block, do a lot of online plays in order to get better and most importantly - have fun.

>>4300096
Rehosting.

Hosts?

>>4300402
Good games, duckator. Got interrupted in the middle so sorry about disappearing there.

>>4300653
Good games.
>Got interrupted in the middle so sorry about disappearing there.
Don't worry about it, I didn't mind waiting.

Rehosting.
>>4300402

>>4300096
GGs Thrillho.
Rehosting.

>>4300096
GGs charismatic lady. Nice finish thur.

200.106.189.135:10800
Mexico

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>4300837
Its not working, you have 1.10?

>>4300837
Try this

187.145.12.50:10800
Central~

>>4300096
still hosting

>>4300402
Hey, excellent games Duckator, thanks a lot for playing. I think I learned a lot today thanks to you.
I'm always impressed at the number of characters you can play...

See you around next time, if fighting always the same character doesn't bother you!

75.79.143.22:10800 West Coast

>>4300685
Good games. It didn't look like you knew how to handle pressure too well. You should remember that you can't mash out of a blockstring, you were eating bullets almost every time you tried. Also, if you try to jump on wakeup or airtech low to the ground you'll get hit by air unblockable attacks like Komachi and Reisen's 66A.

>>4301164
>See you around next time, if fighting always the same character doesn't bother you!
Oh no, it doesn't bother me at all. Your Sukia is always fun to fight.

Do you guys play with the keyboard or gamepad?
I have a nice controller, but the main joystick keeps going towards the right at random, sometime constantly.

>>4301227
Just use the D-pad.

>>4301211
Yeah, I know I don't do well against corner pressure. What should I do, then?

>>4301194
my controller came unplugged

>>4301271
Highjump when you think they're going to throw bullets or border escape if you're feeling lucky. You could also dash forwards if they're in the air but that could just be a trap to hit you with a j2a. The most important thing is to keep blocking until you see a clear opening and waiting until you get out of pressure to start attacking again. It might be a good idea to put some of Iku, Reimu or Komachi's system cards in your deck.

Also, this thread is on autosage if someone wants to make a new one.