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GUIDE: https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/learn/learnmain.html
Japanese Subtitles: https:/kitsunekko.net/
Immersion: https://live.fc2.com holodex.net
See ads/anything about an "official guide" on the thread? Look at this before clicking on it https://streamable.com/6nlhff

>> No.42910680

yosh new thread

>> No.42910687
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I fucking love Miko Miko Miko Miko Miko Miko Miko Miko Miko Miko Miko Miko Miko Miko Miko!!!!!

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>>42910687
yooooo

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>>42910679
Why are you learning japanese?

>> No.42910714

>>42910679
How come nobody mentioned the good rips of One Piece Red were out?

>> No.42910725
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Why are you learning Japanese?

>> No.42910730

>>42910725
uwaaa japanese submarines look like THAT?!

>> No.42910738

>>42910725
10/10 would go deep in

>> No.42910740

>>42910714
People stopped caring about One Piece once haki became a thing.

>> No.42910756

>>42910740
>Just carry water guns everywhere bro.

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>>42910679
konkoyo!
>>42910695
giwtwm
>>42910714
picked up! love the soundtrack but all id seen around was the camrip...
>>42910725
love japanese chocolate filled bread!
>>42910740
give wano a chance! i really enjoyed it! really enjoyed most arcs really ither than the big cake island filler...
>>42910776
inna grew up...

>> No.42910810

今日の曲
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MHgF1_jya4

>> No.42910822

i refuse to believe this is actually multiple people posting

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>>42910830
based same

>> No.42910861

>>42910725
Got sick of waiting for translations.

>> No.42910905

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqbhhe48n-s

>> No.42910906

>long interval reviews come up
>i've forgotten them all

>> No.42910914

>>42910841
Wtf listener san won?

>> No.42910938
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>>42910914
wagmi!
cute if sad game

>> No.42910988

>>42910914
Yeah me.

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>>42910725
I just love Japan.

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fuck learning this language

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>>42911078
skill issue imo

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>>42911078
open your heart to dog and be make it!

>> No.42911208

>>42911186
You almost love dogs as much as white girls

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>>42911208
they open more than their hearts or so goes the rrat...

>> No.42911239

>>42911213
you should get a gf

>> No.42911290

>>42911239
why? that sounds awful, and also has nothing to do with learning japanese

>> No.42911308

i remember watching マリン play 60 seconds and the difficulty options were the names of nukes and she read out ファットマン and there was a bunch of nips like それはないだろう... kwab

>> No.42911328

nigga we get it your life is watching vtubers now stfu or go to a vtuber forum

>> No.42911338

>>42911078
can't relate

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>>42911328

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>>42911308
kek
>>42911375
holosaved

>> No.42911445

>>42910725
Globalismが嫌いします。英語は呪いでこの世界。

>> No.42911476

Why are particles used after basically every word in learning sentences but in actually japanese not?

>> No.42911479

there was no wa

>> No.42911483

there was no no

>> No.42911516

Watashi ga object no verb ni adjective o

>> No.42911554

>1476
>1479
>1483
>1516
“A person who never made a mistake never tried anything new.” (Albert Einstein.)

>> No.42911558

How do you say
>she belongs to the streets
in japanese?

>> No.42911561

>>42911375
stop posting toddler mlp level shit please fucking kill yourself brain aids niggerfaggot
>>42911445
mlen bro..

>> No.42911597

>>42911516
>not using 俺
Bounce on my BWC, femboy

>> No.42911616

>>42911597
how gay do you have to be to post this

>> No.42911620

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ab_Dv3Se_0

>> No.42911632

the race penguin grows in super mario 64 when you get 120 stars
https://youtu.be/5t54mfVqfgc

>> No.42911650

>>42911632
what a noob

>> No.42911651

while he let his wife lose the kids

>> No.42911654

>>42911651
>wife
lol nah the other kid chilling at the bottom of the mountain is also his but the mom says it isnt her

>> No.42911657

>>42911616
How gay do you have to be to use feminine pronouns

>> No.42911661

>>42911657
how big of a noob do you have to be to think watasi is feminine

>> No.42911819

>not using わし

>> No.42911829

>>42911819
sorry i'm new, what is わし??

>> No.42911835

kiraisimasu ? kiraisimasu ?

>> No.42911917

>not using 我輩

>> No.42911926

as for me 拙者

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おはようおにいちゃん

スイセンが咲きました

タンポポも咲きました

モクレンも咲きぞろいました

怒涛のように春が来ています

>> No.42912153

For me, it's 某.

>> No.42912592

YOOOOOOO
https://www.youtube.com/live/7ctmEk_35Yc

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>>42912592
KONKOYOOO!

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>>42912592
based

>> No.42913064

お早う
ただ今

>> No.42913087

>>42912592
拾った
>>42913064
お帰り

>> No.42913257

Can you read 煉瓦?

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>>42910725

>> No.42913423

Anyone have link to based cure dolly’s full arisu in kanji land pdf?

>> No.42913590

>>42913423
i don't

>> No.42913783
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>>42912592
Such a great live.

>> No.42913848

I haven't done any Japanese learnin for almost 2 weeks

>> No.42914097

>>42913332
>Koyori got the titty dress
>Lui didn't

It's not fair...

>> No.42914223

>>42914097
birds aren't mammals so they don't have tits it would be weird if they did
like argonians

>> No.42914334

>>42913423
read https://tatsumoto.neocities.org/blog/learning-grammar

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>>42914223
true koyotes are hot blooded

>> No.42914368

>>42914334
KEK ARE YOU NUTS?‼? thats tatsucuckholds site, thats a mentally ill spammer friend, never take anything said there seriously
>>/jp/?task=search&ghost=&search_text=tatsumoto
https://find.4chan.org/?q=tatsumoto#top
proof
he just began spamming again, hope the mods filter his worthless spam soon‼

>> No.42914377

>>42913423
>cure dolly
the guide says it's shit.
https://tatsumoto.neocities.org/blog/should-i-trust-cure-dolly-and-organic-japanese

>> No.42914379

Total noob still so sorry for the stupid question, but can't you put a particle behind every word basically?
Are they optional in some cases or something, I feel like there should be more particles in what im reading

>> No.42914390

>>42914368
>friend
analcream you're not my friend

>> No.42914444

>>42914338
That was the best live so far this year.

>> No.42914521

>>42914390
>>42914368
you should both shut the fuck up.

>> No.42914722

>>42914379
It depends on what you want to convey and the words used. There are also cases where the particle is optional. If you're starting out then most likely you're dealing with short sentences that are straightforward in structure and have very simple grammar. You'll pick up correct particle usage as you study, and basically every single Japanese grammar guide or textbook is going to gradually introduce you to how the various particles are supposed to be used.

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these old おとぎ話 cartoons are some of the best beginner immersion I've found yet
- aimed at kids but doesn't hurt your dignity to watch
- well made and look good, plus it's old so you can pretend to have cultural hipster credit
- not much silent time
- there's often a narrator redundantly describing what happens
- strong japanese cultural immersion element too if you care about that, since they're all old mythology type stories

>> No.42914942

i have no dignity so i can get away with consuming literal shit like isekai

>> No.42915019

for me it's ちびまる子

>> No.42915561

>>42914942
How was I'm standing on 1 million lives? I haven't watched it yet but I'm interested

>> No.42915798

I can understand most semi-simple sentences but I'm still absolute dogshit at making my own. Would practicing this on it's own be good for learning? Or will I eventually just passively pick it up

>> No.42916050

>>42915798
you will passively pick it up to some degree (things will start to 'sound weird' in your head if they're wrong, which is just your brain telling you you've never seen such a construction when inputting) but yes it requires practice anyway, try to find a language exchange place

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>>42914942
same same

>> No.42916309

分子 分母
Aw, that's cute.

>> No.42916465

>>42910679
Current thread: #3527

Previous threads:
>>42900847 #3526
>>42883123 #3525
>>42877144 #3524
>>42863018 #3523
>>42849420 #3522
>>42841048 #3521
>>42826934 #3520
>>42814563 #3519
>>42799800 #3518
>>42788397 #3517
>>42703693 #3516
>>42771186 #3515
>>42758398 #3514
>>42739461 #3513
>>42726652 #3512
>>42712013 #3511
>>42703720 #3510
>>42692047 #3509
>>42684105 #3508
>>42675081 #3507
>>42665699 #3506
>>42654509 #3505
>>42642217 #3504
>>42623920 #3503
>>42610898 #3502
>>42595655 #3501
>>42499589 #3500
>>42583909 #3499
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>>42561336 #3497
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>>42396556 #3479
>>42387194 #3478
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>>42367140 #3476
>>42326870 #3475
>>42356179 #3474
>>42343310 #3473
>>42335711 #3472
>>42327005 #3471
>>42316964 #3470
>>42305918 #3469

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what's this だす here?
出す as in showing her 求め?
context is she just got injected with like an aphrodisiac or some kind of sex juice

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>>42916515

>> No.42916574

>>42916515
だす is one of those auxilliary verbs meaning this >>42916558
like how attaching ーきる to another verb X means to be done doing X

>> No.42916655

>>42916515
You can also think of it in the sense "letting feeling X out" = "start feeling X".

>> No.42916681

>>42916558
>>42916574
>>42916655
oh of course
that makes a lot more sense
thanks bros

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>got depressed and haven't really studied in over 2 years
>still watch youtube videos in japanese all the time
>my ability to listen and most of my ability to read is pretty much the same, a bit of a decline from 2 years ago
>completely forgot how to write most words though, looking through all of my vocab sheets and I know all of the words kana, but I can't remember how to write fucking anything
it's fucking over, i have to re-rote memorize all of this shit

>> No.42916762

>>42916691
any particular reason you want to learn to write?

>> No.42916770

I added 100 new words yesterday and I'm going to add 100 new words today.

>> No.42916780

>>42916691
Who cares. Write with a keyboard like normal people.

>> No.42916797

>>42916762
Not that anon but wouldn't it be silly to be unable to write a language you speak? I'm new but already writing things myself has helped me recognize early kanji faster and read chicken scratch better.

>> No.42916799

>>42914795
>おとぎ話
These sound perfect but I can't actually find specifically what you're talking about. What studio made them?

>> No.42916804

>>42916797
There are japanese people who have both of their arms amputated. Do you think they're also silly?

>> No.42916809

>>42916799
idk, i'm watching off fc2
https://live.fc2.com/13588951/
the intro screens for each cartoon shows credits, you can probably catch it then

>> No.42916838

>>42914377
>that post
fucking kek what a bitter faggot. It's only different at the beginning but in the end it's the same shit, she recommends anki + immersion which is the same thing that faggot site recommends, what a fucking moron

>> No.42916841

>>42916809
Thanks, I think I couldn't find it at first because I didn't have an account.

>> No.42916871

>>42916804
Hmmmm
Yes

>> No.42916946

>>42916797
I can hand write, you need to learn the stroke order of the most common radicals and some basic rules and exceptions, it's not hard at all like they say but it's not that useful either, I would only recommend it if you have time to spare. It's not going to look pretty but learning stroke order is more important for hand write than the other steps, the other space is called balance, do yourself a favor and just forget about it.
That said, typing is a much better and useful skill to have and it's faster, try a IME and learn how it works, 99% of japs use the standard qwerty keyboard + IME, it's a tool that let you type in hiragana and you can convert it to kakatana pressing f7, tab for manual search and space for autocomplete (if you use microsoft ime)

>> No.42916967

>>42916797
Why would it be silly if I don't give a fucking shit about useless skills?

>> No.42916979

>>42916946
Where to learn how to?

>> No.42917066

>>42916979
nta but I literally just set added japanese to my keyboard on windows and my phone and you can pretty easily figure it out from there. Just type in the romaji and select which kana you want

>> No.42917093

>nta
yes you are lol

>> No.42917128

>nta
ntr

>> No.42917158

>>42917066
I already know how to type, I'm interested in stroke order of radicals. I feel like it would help solidify my retention of Kanji. I'm not actually interested in the entirety writing right now, just building vocabulary

>> No.42917163
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Why do all Japanese people do this?

>> No.42917168

>>42916979
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJnKz4VXLsk
I don't know there's probably a complete guide somewhere. Just make sure to use the shortcuts
alt + shift = change to IME
alt + (the button you have above the tab) = change to hiragana
tte = to type って
xa, xe, etc = ぁ、ぇ、
va, ve = ヴぁ、ヴぇ
fa, fe = ふぁ、ふぇ
tsu or tu = つ
du = づ
and others

>> No.42917195

どうしちゃったの?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wztmSx2_T6w

>> No.42917209

>>42917168
I want radical stroke order :(
I appreciate the help at keyboard though

>> No.42917248

>>42917158
see https://tatsumoto.neocities.org/blog/writing-japanese

>> No.42917251

>>42917248
kys spammer

>> No.42917259

>>42917209
ask your mom she's good at stroking

>> No.42917263
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>>42917251
analfag you're not funny

>> No.42917276

>>42917259
lmfao

>> No.42917282

>>42917248
Kek are you insane? That Tatsucuckhold site. He's a mentally ill spammer, friend.
He recently started spamming again. Hope the mods delete his worthless spam soon.
Proof
*links to tatsucuckold posts.*

>> No.42917295

>>42917282
whats wrong pussy you scared wheres the link

>> No.42917297

>>42917295
>>42917248

>> No.42917422
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What?

>> No.42917486

>>42916797
>Not that anon but wouldn't it be silly to be unable to write a language you speak?
why if you won't ever actually apply it beyond your studies
it can help in the beginning to get used to how kanji flow but you'll soon figure out that practicing to write every new word is simply not feasible in the long term

>> No.42917497

>>42917422
what do you mean
you're wrong

>> No.42917499

>>42917422
saying food is anything but うまい is a severe crime that could spark a honor killing in japan

>> No.42917500

>>42917486
unless you crack the code like i did

>> No.42917509

>>42917497
How so?

>> No.42917515

>>42917509
>"hey you ok bro something happen?"
>"i already ate"
this is you

>> No.42917516

>>42917422
what is this

>> No.42917530

>>42917515
>"hey you ok bro something happen?"
>"It's not very tasty"
this is you.
The context is clearly why aren't you eating.

>> No.42917542

>>42917422
Because if you are in a situation where you are supposed to be eating, you wouldn't go get food with someone and then not eat it unless it was bad, or you were sick.
You wouldn't go get food/eat dinner with someone if you already ate.

>> No.42917546

>>42917530
>this is you.
... yeah and it makes sense lol

>> No.42917553

>>42917168
>xa, xe, etc = ぁ、ぇ、
Fuck that. It's easier to write la, le, etc. ("little a", "little e").

>> No.42917556

>>42917542
Wrong, it's simple grammar, you don't respond to that kind of question with a factual statement, you respond with a statement about your feelings.

>> No.42917561

>>42917546
retard

>> No.42917575

>>42917515
>you ok (why aren't you eating) what happened?
>i already ate
Makes perfect sense

>> No.42917657

dont say "makes sense" cause yall dumb

>> No.42917660

>dont
>yall

>> No.42917667

>>42917660
you got a problem home boy?

>> No.42917733

>>42917556
what if you break your leg and somebody asks どうしたんですか?
are you supposed to not say you've broken your leg?

>> No.42917745

>>42917733
you say you've already eaten

>> No.42917773

>>42917745
that would be a factual statement...

>> No.42917822

>>42917733
You say you feel like your leg is broken.

>> No.42917858

>>42917733
you say you shoved your foot up too many asses

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What are you reading right now

>> No.42917941

>>42917733
the question is clearly in response to you looking off while eating, which is also textbooks teach the んです form

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>>42917913
Rewrite Harvest Festa!

>> No.42917978

>>42917913
DJT #3524

>> No.42918107

TIL that you can use kanji as you do arabic numerals for example:
六五〇円 is 650 yen
六五〇〇円 is 6,500 yen
七〇七〇〇一円 is 707,001 yen.

>> No.42918164

>>42917913
Your post.

>> No.42918168

>>42918107
Me when the 70,7001
:(

>> No.42918178

I only just learned that first party Nintendo 3DS games have furigana, so am installing ゼルダの伝説時のオカリナ as we speak.

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>>42917913
よつばと!
I probably started reading too early cause I have to look up every other word and the grammar escapes me most of the time. I get the gist most of the time so far though.

>> No.42918188

>>42918107
>七〇七
uuoooohhhh

>> No.42918196

>>42918180
inspite that page contains hiragana only

>> No.42918199

>>42918180
-Learn the 2 alphabets
-Read Tae Kim within 1-2 weeks
-immerse looking up and mining stuff you don't know
-anki
-do 2 years
-fluent

>> No.42918212

>>42918199
Reading Tae Kim is pointless without any kind of vocabulary to back it up with.

>> No.42918214

>>42918199
damn bros I did it wrong... I'll have to start over...

>> No.42918221

>be N1 chad
>exude aroma of japanese so people keep asking me "what is x in Japanese? UwU"
>get asked what "angel" is
>doesn't come to my mind so I just say エンジェル
>realize 4 hours later that it's 天使

>> No.42918222

>>42918180
i actually dont think yotsuba is that good for beginners, not many kanjis so its just strings of kana, and theres a lot of funny ways of speaking and slang, a lot of the manga is casual in the way they talk which can be hard for beginners, its better to read it at like n3 imo

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>>42917913

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>>42918221
Thing about Japanese is no matter how stupid and wrong your answer is, you're probably still right.

>> No.42918239

>>42918228
I told them the story of how many things that we take for granted just don't really exist in Japan, like napkins, so that's why they have imported the English word.

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>>42918196
That's not one of the pages I'm having trouble with, I posted it cause it makes me laugh. This one was a little harder for me, specifically what ジャンボ is saying there in the top left. It's something like "Are you ready to give the welcoming gift to the neighbors?" I think.
>>42918199
-did it
-I'm up to chapter 4 but the info doesn't stay in my head very well
-sure
-working on it
-ok
-sugoi

Thanks bud

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>>42917913

>> No.42918319

>>42918180
-Learn the 2 alphabets
-Watch Cure Dolly and nihongo no mori
-japanese master

>> No.42918378

>Learn nothing
>Fap to eromanga
>kenjatime = better than native japanese
>lose it and have to fap again

>> No.42918411

>>42918378
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbnxEzUzn3I&ab_channel=VtubeTengoku

>> No.42918498

>>42918251
It is important to actually understand the sentence properly; don't try to get by by looking up definitions of words and trying to infer the meaning of the whole sentence from that.
>用意する
This is transitive, it can not mean "to be ready". It is directly modifying 粗品.
The ~してる is not an example of the present continues in this case. It is a resultant state. "To have prepared gifts". He's asking whether he's got gifts already.

>> No.42918738

>>42918498
How would you have to ask if he's preparing the gift right now in continuous state?

>> No.42918782

>>42918738
今 or まだ to disambiguate doing it right now vs. already done it.

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i don't have japanese fonts in incognito :(

>> No.42918817

>>42918806
die

>> No.42918827

>want help with something
>get told to die
yep, just another day on DJT

>> No.42918877

>>42918827
Kill yourself, or just die idc

>> No.42918882

>>42918877
end yourself, NOW

>> No.42918884

What's your current favorite word? Mine's 崇拝.

>> No.42918896

>>42918884
自殺して

>> No.42918900

>>42918884
死ぬ

>> No.42918907

>>42918884
die

>> No.42918938

>>42918884
切磋琢磨

>> No.42918941

>>42918782
what about using している?

>> No.42918946

After studying for 5 years, then living and working in Japan for a year, I slacked off and dropped my Japanese learning thanks to the stupid covid pandemic. I haven’t done any formal studying for a few years, but I figure it’s like riding a bike (it should come back)

I’ve completed みんなの日本語 (red and blue), and 中級へ行こう(pink and orange). I’ve lost some vocab and grammar, although I tend to recognize the words when I see them. Are there any recommendations of other resources?

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42918965

What did Halpern mean by this?

>> No.42918968

>>42918946
Don't bother, bro. You had all the chances to make it, but you chose not to. Japanese is not for you. Find something else that you can enjoy.

>> No.42918976

>>42918965
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJbGv7IL_yk

>> No.42918984

>>42918946
how do you work in japan not knowing japanese?

>> No.42919001

おまんこ

>> No.42919014

Is a kanji? Ateji? What is it?

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>>42910714
This was fun at the theater. Although Gold was good on the big screen as well.

>> No.42919027

>>42919014
is batsu*

>> No.42919030

why is 先に行きましょう actually let's go ahead, it should be let's go before

>> No.42919052

>>42918965
I disagree with his reasoning on this, people just confuse the concept of numeral and number and it ended up getting the on reading of 零 which is a real kanji.

>> No.42919069

>>42910679
are there any flashcard alternatives to anki that allow batch uploads for cards? i used kanjibox for a long time but it seems like uploads are broken and the dev isn't working on it anymore

>> No.42919077

>>42919027
Does it look like a 漢字 to you? (漢 = chinese, 字 = character)

>> No.42919095

>>42919077
does 〇?
The are both kanji.

>> No.42919108

>>42919095
What's your definition of kanji?
中国で作り出され,今日も用いられている表意文字。

>> No.42919118

>>42919108
Well, I'm sure that both ○ and batsu were written in china at one point. So by that definition they are kanji.

>> No.42919200

>>42918884
俺の母は玄人だ

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42919309

前:独り
俺:一人

>> No.42919373

chatGPT-4.0 is crazy good bros, the world of Japanese learning is about to change drastically

>> No.42919376

Is this grammatically correct?

DJTは運命共同体。誰かが困っている時には必ず手を差し伸べたり自殺を言ってしましょう

>> No.42919493

>>42919373
Have you used it? Did you pay the 20 dollars? I won't pay and I won't believe it till I can use the model myself through the api. No, I will not sign up either.
Don't believe cherry-picks from random anons.

>> No.42919509

>>42919493
$20 is a small price for instantly making it.

>> No.42919517

>>42919509
That's not related to what I said, retard shill. Do you even know English?

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42919522

二徹 staying up all night two nights in a row; double all-nighter

>> No.42919525

Can GPT-4 pass Kanken 1?

>> No.42919572

>>42919517
>>42919493
>>42919525
>>42919118
>>42919077
whats with all the uppercasers lately? FUCK OFF

>> No.42919579

>>42919572
Sorry。

>> No.42919585

>>42919509
$20 for access; the token price is way too high to be useful. Conservatively, say you need 100-200 million tokens (prompt and output 75-150 million words) of explanation to learn Japanese. I doubt it will be helpful at 8k context so we will use 32k context at .06 cents per 1000 tokens. That's $6,000.
Maybe if you are stuck on something and just need help, but you can often find answers to everything on standard sites like Japanese stack exchange.

>> No.42919590

>>42919572
Trying to force your meme again? I don't think it's going to work.

>> No.42919595

>>42919585
ive been using chatgpt4 to rush manga i like
i understand like 60%-70% of sentences and the AI helps me understand the remaining 30% quickly

>> No.42919604

>>42919595
Prove it Pajeet.

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When they open the image prompting interface to the public, I can ask the AI to automatically translate the raw pages.

>> No.42919630

I like the fact that there is some basement dwelling schizo that goes on /jp/ for multiple hours each day for almost a decade now to rage about people for using proper English.

>> No.42919631

>>42919595
what if the answer is wrong?

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>>42919604

>> No.42919636

>>42919621
you can already do that retard

>> No.42919643

>>42919632
Ah, this definitely proves that you are using gpt4. Sorry to have doubted you.

>> No.42919651

GPT-4 can generate danmaku patterns.
https://twitter.com/alice_diffusion/status/1636000238757625867

>> No.42919652

>>42919631
im used to misunderstanding shit because im ESL
for years I thought compromise and promise meant the same thing

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>>42919643

>> No.42919658

>>42919651
sugee.... its even more beautiful than the trash ZUN has been pumping out lately

>> No.42919663

>>42919657
>capped
>open ai doesn't mention it
>you didn't mention it
Shill spotted, kill yourself.

>> No.42919669

>>42919663
there's no way you're sending over 100 messages in 4 hours

>> No.42919682

>>42919669
Why are undercasers all retarded shills for globohomo?

>> No.42919690

i havent been on /djt/ in like 6 months
why the fuck are uppercasers getting cocky and behaving like they own the place? did you fucks fail to properly gatekeep the /djt/ community?
fuck....

>> No.42919701

stop posting in this thread retards

>> No.42919707

>>42919690
I*
haven't*
months.*
Why*
Did*
thread* """community"""
Fuck...*
You are welcome ESL-Nigger.

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i cant believe i paid 20 bucks for something worse than deepl

>> No.42919795

>>42919761
can you ask him the difference between 責務, 義務 and 責任 ?

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>>42919795

>> No.42920086

内政干渉 and LGBT trending on twitter. what's going on?

>> No.42920099

dunno i dont use normalfaggot websites, stay there by the way

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Dogen-san has lost it...

>> No.42920101

>>42920086
doesnt matter the japanese are vassals

>> No.42920103

>>42919802
it's ok I guess, the jap explanation says 責務 is just「責任と義務」, but I think I rather just find examples of usages

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can t use microsoft azure anymore, any other serviceable text to speech?

>> No.42920184

>>42919761
It's always going to be worse than a dedicated translation ai.
You would first have to make an AI that detects machine translation between pairs of native/translated material, then use that to filter input to the translation ai, give it enough information and layers and it will be 10x better than gpt-4, but it won't be able to explain the translation.

>> No.42920208

>>42919761
character ai is actually really good and its free
ive been learning some japanese phraises from cai https://beta.character.ai/

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mined たくましい

>> No.42920221

>>42920208
isn't chat gtp free? i was fucking around with it last week

>> No.42920242

talked to some girl on hellotalk and she was half-way to menhera status but not quite there yet. need to talk to some insane bitch at some point

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>>42920221
cant get the website to load dont like gpt
cai is better

>> No.42920261

>>42920100
he looks like a 50 year old cancer patient in that thumbnail, the fuck

>> No.42920273

子宮 acquired

>> No.42920322

>>42920242
I feel like I want to talk to others, I only know about 4.5k words but when I read what people write instead of stories I feel more interested. What is menhera?

>> No.42920344

>>42920322
crazy bitch

you can try talking but tbqh unless you can understand regular spoken japanese in tv shows and shit easily you're gonna be lost a lot of the time. especially if it's in a group convo

>> No.42920382

>>42920322
Go for it, conversation is really the only proven way to learn Japanese.
>>42920344
Kill yourself.

>> No.42920397

>>42920382
>Kill yourself.
why? i didnt tell him not to do it, just told him the reality he will most likely be facing

>> No.42920407

just saw なよなよ for the first time

>> No.42920432

>>42920344
>>42920382
What about https://line-friends.net/ ?

>> No.42920446

>>42920432
you can give it a try but it'll probably be a similar experience to skypech, people on these sites are looking to talk with other japanese people. it's very tedious trying to find someone to talk to. that's why i use hellotalk voice rooms, i can always find people to talk to and with a bit more effort i can avoid being in chats that have more than 3 people in the group voice chat

>> No.42920472

>>42920382
>proven
lmfao

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Act of God

>> No.42920482

>>42920382
>Go for it, conversation is really the only proven way to learn Japanese.
i mean yea of course, after all language is spoken dialoge first and foremost

>> No.42920496

>>42917168
文字コードきをつけないと

わっかんないんだよね

あたしはだいたいUTF-8をつかうようにしてるけど

だれがどのコードで文書持ってくるかわかんないのは

まだまだ解決にはいたっていないとおもうよ

なんかさいきん学会ではPDFはやめよう派が

けっこうおおくって

>> No.42920510

lol japanese is so fucking dumb
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E3%82%A2%E3%83%80%E3%83%AB%E3%83%86%E3%82%A3

>> No.42920513

>>42920478
What does this have to do with japanese? and "act of god" is actually a real thing with contract law

>> No.42920519

god made me do it

>> No.42920529

>>42920513
>What does this have to do with japanese? Not much, cope.
I didn't know that, I thought it was just their way of saying natural disaster. It's LINE's policy that I'm reading btw

>> No.42920553

>>42920519
same

>> No.42920554

>>42920510
サル

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comfy video sentence mining tonight

>> No.42920682

>>42920659
砂が難しくてフカフカしててなかなか進まなくてすごくつらかったです
一生懸命走っているところがすごくかっこよかった

>> No.42920827

>spent 4 hours learning kana
>now I can read random twitter hashtags and youtube titles that don't have kanji in them
>I don't know what anything means though besides ホロライブ and かわいい and おかえり and しこしこしこ
Going through archives, people say to do RTK for radicals to better learn kanji but there's a guy who says do JP1K. Searching "how to learn kanji" on youtube is just people shilling their paid course or app. What do I do?

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きょうの日本の草花

>ホトケノザ

むらさきがきれいだとおもうよ

>> No.42920842

trying to translate hentai as a learning exercise how would you translate this to english? it's talking about another person
私だけに夢中になるの
he'll only be crazy for me? he'll only have eyes for me?

>> No.42920884

>>42920827
there are two general routes people go as far as I can tell
1. SRS with isolated kanji, with wanikani, kanjidamage, or something like that. You learn through rote memorization the kanji itself, a keyword, minimal relevant readings, and maybe the most common word with it. Do this for at least a few hundred kanji before trying to read anything.
2. Learn a small amount of vocab through rote memorization, the bare minimum, and immediately start immersing on content you like. It'll be painful at the start when you have to look up 5 things per sentence and struggle with grammar. You learn kanji on new words as you go, gradually, probably with added mining.


I attempted both at the start but ended up on #1 and I like it better. When you do read you can infer jukugo meanings like 80% of the time and it speeds up things a lot.

>> No.42920940

Hey bros, I'd like to report that my backlog is finally shrinking (meaning I'm mining less than the new cards amount per day). Kanji grid currently states 2726 kanji for all the deck.

>>42920827
Isolated kanji study is a waste of time (I've done RRTK at the beginning). Literally just learn words, the best way to go about it is first doing a core deck and then mining your stuff. JP1K is quite good if you only watch anime (I've gone through it myself), but for a more solid base (especially for VNs) I'd suggest Anacreon's Core 2k.

>> No.42920964

悠久 久遠 永遠 無窮 永劫

ask chatgpt 4 to explain the difference pls

>> No.42920965

>>42920964
ask your mom to stop begging for my cum theres only so much of it to go around

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gotta love it

>> No.42921146

>>42916558
Has anyone got the wrong information from Bing chat yet? So far hasn't missed for me even on more obscure grammer things and even sfx. I know there's an issue of it showing the wrong information confidently but even when double checking it still seems accurate

>> No.42921155

only noobs and retards care about this shit lol

>> No.42921170

^

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>>42920964
not 4 but w/e

>> No.42921179

chatgpt is google glass level shit right now
it will never be able to do anything significant for language learning

>> No.42921184

it is doing something significant and dare i say based namely crippling the next generation of aids ""learners""

>> No.42921193

>literally just a faster way to lookup grammar and word connotations
>this is somehow bad

>> No.42921199

yup its the fastlane
fastlane to ngmi but fast nonetheless

>> No.42921200

>>42921193
you are simply not capable of understanding and you have no intuition so you are cursed to not make it

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>>42921200

>> No.42921207

dame

>> No.42921214

>>42921204
the truth is never rude in an open discussion
if anything its the most helpful (i say this knowing it will never help you sadly

>> No.42921222

unsweetened cold ジャスミン茶 is the most based drink to buy at the konbini

>> No.42921226

>>42921214
u got owned lol

>> No.42921231

>>42921226
the fact that he even knows how to use the site puts him way below me as a human

>> No.42921236

also dead internet theory is so damn close to coming true

>> No.42921237

>>42921231
You know what they say: ignorance is bliss

>> No.42921262

>>42921237
https://youtu.be/QfBxtD_ycXQ

>> No.42921263

https://streamable.com/13p1gt

>> No.42921271

weird that "all" the vtuber fags are not here rn
also very weird that they are "all" gonna start posting within minutes of "each other"

>> No.42921287

>>42921236
I'm sorry, I don't speak nonsense. Can you repeat that in English?

>> No.42921318

>>42921271
I'm here I just don't talk about vtubers unless others already are

>> No.42921369

youre a background character austrian guy nobodys talking about you

>> No.42921403

yawn

>> No.42921417

isn't it 10:30 am?

>> No.42921439

its 4:33 am

>> No.42921451

its time for predinner h

>> No.42921547

よるだよ

なんかむしむしする

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>>42921271
Sure am glad those vtuber fags arent online right now

>> No.42921746

>>42920214
If you don't know the kanji, you haven't mined shit.

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how do I learn to read calligraphy
I wouldn't even be able to read 食べる if it's handwritten

>> No.42921836

>>42921834
be a tensai like me

>> No.42921839

>>42921834
Make a calligraphy deck.

>> No.42921908

just one more deck bro

>> No.42922036
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hello friends, can you help me read this
>ここみてみてー
>美(?)せのアタミをXXしてXXXした。。。
>Look here, look here
>They're doing XXX and they did XXX to (beauty ???)
I can't read the character after the 美 and I don't know what atami is

>> No.42922155

>>42922036
only an old djt and namefag loving tensai like me can answer this shoutout to my dead bros btw
kokomitemitebisyoujonoatasiwoxxsitexxsitaxxxxwositetatte

>> No.42922174

>>42922155
jesus that was fucking 少女のアタシ? i will never be able to read handwriting
but thank you very much

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日本語の修行って苦手ではないよ。嬉しいです。

>> No.42922295

>>42922255
支離滅裂有象無象流言飛語百花繚乱

>> No.42922296

>>42921834
learn stroke order

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>>42922295
But of course.

>> No.42922332

>>42922296
boring I can't learn that while stroking my dick like I do for reading and listening
what next you'll tell me to learn speaking instead of having sex?

>> No.42922333

should i learn stroke order or pitch accent (exclusive or)

>> No.42922338

>>42922174
yeah bro no problem. the oldfags could instantly read crazy calligraphy on vocab quizzes testing thousands of rare words, they were the real gods i wish i could be one tenth as good :(

>> No.42922352

>>42922036
It's アタシ, not アタミ.

>> No.42922368

>>42922352
thanks, yeah i see that the ミ is sloped the other way
i think i need to get better at context clues too, of course that said 美少女

>> No.42922376

>>42922333
>should i learn this kinda useless thing or this super useless thing

>> No.42922386

>>42922338
true and vocab quizzes throw words at you in isolation so there are no context clues to cheat with either. wild

>> No.42922392

>>42922376
you sound like an ngmi faggot

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fuck gay stroke order, any vn with cursive font I can hook so i can relearn every kanji again the bruteforce way

>> No.42922411

>>42922403
>hook
>>42922392

>> No.42922423

so ive noticed people use past tense in present tense a lot for example

今思い出しました means 'now i remember' even though its in past form hes talking about something that has happened just now

i know technically you can say well he has finished remembering it so now he has remembered and the action is complete so its in the past, anyways my question is, would it sound weird to say

今思い出します

>> No.42922428

>>42922423
present form in conversation always is talking about the future

>> No.42922432

>>42922428
brilliant, thank you!

>> No.42922435

>>42922423
lmfao this is a joke right
なめします?なめします?

>> No.42922440

>>42922435
why would it be a joke? i dont understand sorry, what is? なめします?なめします?

>> No.42922453

>>42922440
its so bad and butchered it feels like someone purposely wrote it as a joke to reference redditors and perma ngmis

>> No.42922461

>今思い出します
I'm thoughting out the memory right now.

>> No.42922465

>>42922440
The beginner thread is at /trash/.

>> No.42922467

>>42922453
im not sure why its bad sorry, i was just wondering why past tense is used when talking about a present happening, not sure why thats a bad question, this is the place to come and ask beginner questions right? sorry i dont want to shit up this board i just didnt want to ask some shitty ai lol

>>42922465
ok thank you

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is せん just a fancy しよう

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>>42922461
hmm now im a bit more confused as i thought this would be past tense as well 'im never hearing of that right now'

whatever i will just keep immersing and trust the process

>> No.42922483

>>42922467
you are not the trash. trust me :)

>> No.42922493

>>42922467
dno its a question only unironic n5's would ask because they have never immersed. just consume japanese for a couple of months and you are guaranteed to naturally acquire the difference like everyone does unless you are legit 60 iq in which case you should seriously quit and do better things with your life

>> No.42922496

>>42922478
oh wait, this is past tense because its kiita, does that mean if you make a verb past tense in a sentence than the masu doesnt have to be mashita?

>>42922493
i am an unironic n5 yes, i thought i could come ask questions here but i will keep immersing!

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been chatting with chatgpt in japanese

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>>42921271
gooooood morning myyyyyy friieeeeend!

>> No.42922953

>>42922467
This is the beginner thread, just ask whatever and ignore schizo trolls.

>> No.42922969

>>42922964
>>42922964
>>42922964
New

>> No.42922978

>>42922969
thanks for baking bro

>> No.42922982

https://www.youtube.com/live/5qRmQyerr0A
yooooooo

>> No.42922994

>page 4
new schizo troll record

>> No.42923016

>>42923008
>>42923008
>>42923008
Real thread

>> No.42923039

>>42923016
this thread was made after >>42922969 knowingly simply because the other thread doesn't advertise vtubers
this is spamming/flooding and advertisement

>> No.42923054

>>42923016
Thanks anon.

>> No.42923064

>>42923039
you are a massive retard for thinking the /jp/ rules mean shit and for still posting on this board

>> No.42923126

lol he mass reported it with multiple ips while samefagging his thread
what a fucking faggot

>> No.42923283

i bet it isnt even that, he probably knows a big loophole or is quite close to someone directly on the team. there is no other way to do it as consistently and quickly, you can find dozens of threads starting september 2021 where suddenly 50-100 posts started getting deleted on a regular basis and that was almost half a year before he got into vtubers

>> No.42923310

>>42922994
both threads were made by the same person.
>make a dummy thread on page 4
>immediately make a retaliatory holo thread
>push all the blame for early threads on the """"other guy""""
probably has something to do in the next few hours and wouldn't be around to make a new thread if this aged naturally.

>> No.42923354

>>42923126
>>42923283
>>42923310
its honestly so bizzare that it makes me really curious about what is happening behind the scenes because there is no doubt many guys have gone to irc with a shit load of hard evidence over the past year and complained

>> No.42923410

>>42923310
i know for a fact that isnt the case
besides even if we made a dummy vtuber thread that would simply backfire and be the thread chosen by the jannies

>> No.42923524

こんにちは。Line友達募集で君のLineを見つけました。「誰でも」と書きましたけど日本語が下手な外国人でもいいですか? 私は日本語を勉強していますですが「日本語教えて」とかが訊きません。話したいだけ。
嫌なら構いません

How's my introduction I want to send to this guy I added on Line?

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>>42923524
>君
rude, use their username + さん
>していますです
ますです is pretty much always wrong unless its a joke
>とかが訊きません
having a が here is a mistake, remove it
>構いません
thats a quite rude thing to say
構う is a thing people at the top of the hierarchy say

>How's my introduction I want to send
you are too self deprecating and not even trying to sell yourself as worth talking to

>> No.42923598

>>42923591
>hierarchy say
i guess "do" is more correct just to be straight forward

>> No.42923641

>>42923591
こんにちは。Line友達募集で[Username]さんのLineを見つけました。「誰でも」と書きましたけど日本語が下手な外国人でもいいですか?
嫌ならいい

>していますです
I had でも but ですが sounded better to me

How's this?

>> No.42923650

>>42923641
>嫌ならいい
just write something like よかったらチャットしましょう

>> No.42923659

>>42923650
Otherwise from that I'm alright? Never really done output before

>> No.42923664

>>42923354
accept that 4chan is comprised, seeing him as friend and you enemy

>> No.42923673

>>42923659
ye
there is no way to get good at outputting without being bad at it but still trying first so you are on the right track man

>> No.42923715

>>42923664
yep djt needs to be on a board where they dont have rules so we dont have to deal with this bullshit

>> No.42923754

>>42923715
revealed preference vs stated preference
you can keep on saying it but people just aren't going to

>> No.42923807

>>42923754
im telling you what djt needs its the only way

and im right i always am

>> No.42923824 [DELETED] 

im personally only doing the non holo thread thing to make the tranny mad and make it extremely clear to everybody paying attention what is going on here
i doubt it will ever get better

>> No.42923826

>>42923807
good luck but i'm convinced that it's done

>> No.42923902

>>42923826
its done here on /jp/ yes
the move to trash could have been made a few months ago when there were some more people posting, the problem is threads on trash dont stay up for more than 4-5 hours if they dont get bumped and the ones still here are weak willed faggots who cant embargo posting in his thread
you know there is literally nobody there but him but you still go post in it lol

i am partly to blame i aggressively doom posted how djt is over and then over a couple of weeks the remaining people actually started leaving lmao

>> No.42923919

>>42923902
you think you're above it but you're still here

>> No.42923961

>>42923902
No one wants to move to trash lmao
You'd have an easier time convincing the few that remain to go to an existing altchan. Or make your own djtchan

>> No.42924009

>>42923919
i have to jump through too many hoops and its annoying but since you asked
>>>/trash/djt

>> No.42924124

>>42923961
nah you only think that because you dont realize how few people are left, what you see on trash is the reality of the situation
and im not going to take up samefagging an entire thread as my full time job unlike the other guy so it will always seem like one thread is being "chosen" over the other but you have to be pretty stupid to still fall for that trick

>> No.42925336

>>42910680
>>42910679
How to use Mpvacious and GoldenDict

Mpvacious can work with GoldenDict now. To set it up, I have written the following mini guide.

https://github.com/Ajatt-Tools/mpvacious/blob/master/howto/goldendict.md

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>>42925336
Great! That's what I needed!

>> No.42925625

>>42924124
No I'm saying that specifically because I know how few are left. You are probably the last one that posts here daily. I only swing by once every couple months now and that's probably the same for the others too. On a good day, there's maybe five people here.
Trash is unironically for the garbage that doesn't deserve to exist and the posting quality on that board reflects that truth. Instead of having to deal with getting flushed off the catalog with all the other turds every couple hours, we can go to an altchan with actual moderation and not deal with any of this nonsense

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