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WE'VE GOT A CIRNO DOWN!

I HAVE BEATEN SCIENCE INTO THE GROUND!

>>38123
And as soon as I got Yuyu past level 6 the Possession bug kicked in.

There was much facepalming afterwards.

MORE BATS

MORE BATS

DIE MORE REMILIA, I WANT MORE BATS

OH YESSSS.

>>38233 DIE MORE REMILIA
RAR!

>>38245

Its a masochist relationship, screw balance, I usually trow random low-level shit, then overleveled remilas all over the screen.

>>38219
All ranged units (except maybe Suwako?) have a minimum range required in order to fire. Keep her behind a wall of (insert melee unit here) and she can fire more, even though I think her rate of fire is slow. The bats are good flying melee to take out enemy melee if one falls, though.

Also, I never did get to legitimately Possess a giant giant in boss mode ;_;

>>38106
...TASKUTE EIRIN

>>38261
It was from before the patch, I haven't played it much since. Though I should probably play around in the Momiji rougelike sometime tonight.

>>38370
Patchcon: Defend the Library!

Doujin Touhou game by Tasofro. Rapidshare links were posted in a previous thread and I'm too lazy, so do a quick search.

I'm running low on worthwhile Patchcon screenshots that haven't already been posted... well, I can always fall back on those spritesheet rips someone made a while back.

>>38508
But they're so damn cute! :V

>>38560
Nitori was presented as a boss in their teaser video and probably got overnerfed afterwards.

Then again, Gunbunny rather shows that game balance was not a primary concern in design for Patchcon.

>>38606
Get a random cheater program and search for your money amount once you're in-game. Freeze or edit as needed. I used TSearch, apparently. Hooray for google!

>>38574
http://www.mediafire.com/?15xyxlkmf5d
Have fun.

>>38714
Well, we know who to blame for this one, I guess.

ξ・∀・）
FUCK YOU MERUPO

>>38638
Strange, I was told by someone that my team was crap and I should have Nitori in it. I gave it a whirl but hated her.

While my team is far from perfect it has Cirno for freezing, Flandre for life drain and more bats, and my sweetheart Marisa

Here's something for all you numbers freaks. DPS information based on data straight from the internal data files. Note that specials (such as AoE) and things like how quick they are to run the fuck away from the opponent are not considered here. (So Marisa looks a lot better on paper than she does in practice.)

Level 10 units without type advantage or disadvantage against pretty good defense to their damage.

Units are listed in order from fastest attacking to slowest, within each category.

And level 10 units with type disadvantage modifier.

And, finally, level 10 units with type advantage modifier. It's the least useful table, though.

Nitori actually looks good here, since she can destroy Flying type units in seconds. Her damage scales down rapidly with level disadvantage, though, compared to the rest of the cast.

I never 'really' played the tougher modes much, but China and Reisen are both pretty nice units. China mostly for being really cheap to upgrade and an excellent shock trooper, Reisen for well, being broken.

>>38779
Maybe sometime, it does sound like a fun optional challenge to goof around with.

>>38870
I used both Komachi and Youmu there, because Youmu's final skillset is pretty sick and her attack rate is obscene. Can't get enough money/time to do the cash exploit in that mode, though...

>>38749
>>38795

And lastly... Attack rate information. Marisa is funny.

Note that Komachi attacks slowly, so her instant kill is the least effective out of all the units that have it.

I _think_ Instant Kill has a 3% activation rate, +1%/level, so a level 97 Komachi/Youmu/Eirin would kill every single attack, but I'm not sure. Haven't confirmed, for what should probably be obvious reasons.

>>38976
I can confirm it, for other obvious reasons.

All skills appear to have at least a level-based component; I assume the Good Luck skill acts by increasing the level allies are considered for skill activation chances.

>>39176
Well, you can either use a cheating program like TSearch to edit your cash, or abuse a cash exploit involving the purchase, upgrade, and sale costs of units. Massing China works best for it, for the record.

>>39174
Is effectiveness rate a % of her max HP done in damage, or the % chance that selfdestruct kicks in? If it's the former, then it's no wonder she ends up obliterating anything in one explosion at high levels...

>>39542
The one pictured.

Also, for some strange reason she prefers to be called "Hong Meiling." We'll have to beat that out of her.

Is there some trick to dealing with patchi? If I don't burn a spellcard whenever a wave of her spawns it's like throwing my Tewis into a meatgrinder. ;_;

cirnos? we have lots over here.

;_; I know the feeling. its especially bad when you don't have your water card.

>>38019
Objectives:
- Create 9,999 Cirno unit
- Have Erin help Kaguya
- Prove that Reimu is an undead zombie
- Have Marisa steal Alice's "precious thing"

Just make some Alices and focus on upgrading them. Your Cirnos will make it, even if they are just cannon-fodder.

maybe level up your cirnos? like to 9?

I use Reimu as cannon fodder and upgrade Cirno as much as I can. Haven't lost yet with that method.

>>38106

Isn't it sad, Yuyuko? ;_;

>>38106
'Where's Yuyu' the game.

What do the Remilia-style units do? All she does is launch a spear and then back up. Not very useful. I won by spamming Chinas and backing them up with equal amounts of Patchis and Sakuyas for a ranged punch.

>>38219
The spears hit multiple people and have AOE.

>>38019
I totally know what you mean.

I don't like playing Marippy because I don't like seeing Alice fall down. :(

>>38183
>Possession bug
Wasn't the patch supposed to fix that or is this from before the patch?

>>39590

OH GOD REMILIAS JUST KILLED 300 OF MY CIRNOS

what game is this anon?

It's pretty crazy in Lunatic when range starts raping your melee since most range get some sort of multishooting or aoe at higher levels.

>>38370
patchcon:Defend the Library.

>>38360
Just lost over 1000 Cirnos, fuck.

>>42169
>china

Also: what's so broken about Reisen? She doesn't see as horribly overpowered as youmu spam.

>>38388
You lost over a thousand 9's.

You lost over nine thousand!

The only units you need to baet this game on ANY mode are Udonge and Komachi.

Well, except for TD.

>>38321
>Momiji rougelike

Details. NOW.

>>38321
There a rapidshit out there for the rougelike?

I only know hiragana and katakana, is this game still playable (And enjoyable)?

>>38455
http://www.pooshlmer.com/touhouwiki/index.php/PatchCon

Yup.

Me and my big mouth. And silly oniichan.

Looks like freeware, still in beta: http://www18.ocn.ne.jp/~back/
Download link is right below the screenshot, though I'm having slight trouble getting it to run from a different download location. Probably applocale troubles.

Official game is they're all clay dolls made by Pachy to protect her library but someone stole the technology to steal books (probably Marisa). Nobody in Gensokyo was hurt in the making of this game.

>>38500
Freezes everytime I try to open it. Damn it. Probably gonna have to wait until a stable version is released.

>>38521
Ran fine for me once I put it through applocale, but that may have been slightly edited or a previous version thanks to the other download location. Try that before giving up, I suggest.

Now I need to figure out the controls so I don't get eaten by fairies and FOE again ;_;

Why do people like Nitori? If her pickles don't actually hit they're useless. And at lvl 6 she just throws more useless pickles.

>>38553
RAR the version you have and Mediafire it. I doubt the problem is with AppLocal, since I have full Japanese text support and have no need for that program.

>>38532
al-almost all of them have near identical haircuts. could the guy not come up with anything else but MIDLENGTH AND BANGS?

>>38553
Was expecting a Ran pic to accompany that statement.

Thanks

/r/ cheat for unlimited money

>>38579
⑨TL, my bad.

>>38574
I'll work on it, give me a minute.

It came in .zip but I doubt that'll be a problem.

>>38606
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsearch

Figure out the rest yourself. It's not that hard.

>>38560
Her damage actually kind of sucks as the levels go up, too. Because she's low damage, high quantity, she gets raped by high defense units since defense is directly subtracted from damage. Plus, when on a type disadvantage (like against melee), her base damage is considered to be 75% of normal, so it's not uncommon for Nitori to do no damage even if she _can_ hit.

She's a crap unit.

THIS GAME IS MAKING MY NUTBLADDER SQUEEL

>>38647
That's the same version from the site. (￣△￣;）

AND I STILL CAN'T GET IT TO WORK. SHIT.

I'll just wait until a v1.0 is released. Hopefully it'll more stable by then.

god damn when the marisa's attacked I had to use all of my fucking spellcards to win

>>38404
Haha. That's my screenshot. Give that team a try some time, by the way. One of each with your money all in levels.

>>38429
http://www18.ocn.ne.jp/~back/

Download it from here.

>>38766
Like I said before, Komachi + Udonge = Victory. Nothing more, nothing less.

>>38790
Lol Marisa.

Who's Komachi? The pink scythe chick?

OH GOD WHAT THE FUCK WHY IS KAGUYA SO FUCKING SLOW

>>38851
Yes. Her attacl is great and has the ability to randomly insta-kill. I usually pair them with small groups of Tewis.

Giga Boss mode on lunatic is a breeze with this combination.

Hey guys, how do you get the infinite money exploit. I find that if I upgrade 1 single unit to max I can get around lvl 11 before the game is finished, 13 if I'm REALLY really lucky but then I'll probably die before I finish. Cirno being the cheapest is whom I thought best to go for but I must still see to upgrading my other troops, 1 Cirno cannot possibly defend the library.

A better team would have a chance to get more money through pushing next more often but I find that midgame I'm screwed either way and start using spellcards which ruins your multiplier.

>>38861
Which one is the Gray Haired one with the Katana? I want to say Sakuya but I'm sure I'm wrong.

>>38870
Her defense is, unfortunately, pretty terrible though, which makes it not such a good idea to use her as a staple unit in lunatic arcade.

For bosses I'd rather use Eirin anyway. Ranged instakill means she won't get raped by anyone with an AoE.

>>38886
Youmu, she has a fast "closing in" speed, evades some range attacks, and can instant kill.

>>38870
Yeah Instant kill is a life saver, even against aoe bosses.

>>38886
Youmu.

Sakuya's the danmaku maid.

I downloaded the latest patchcon rapidshare file, but the .exe file is saying that I don't have d3dx9_33.

I'm guessing that's direct X, but I thought I had it up-to-date (Barkley's Shut Up and Jam ran, and that took DX 10).

>>38915
your directX 9 distribution isn't up to date, that has nothing to do with dx10

>>38915
google search it and put it in the patchcon folder

how do you construct different teams?

Can some one tell me how to works the controls for this Rouge like?

>>39068
Beat the normal mode with all 6 teams then you can click this option in the team select screen.

>>39068
Beat the game 6 or was it 7 times somethint like that

>>39085
Bottommost option in the starting menu shows what the controls are (and lets you set them); they're like the Mystery Dungeon controls, apparently. I don't know much else since I haven't done much with it yet.

>>38976
Do you have any information about Selfdestruct damage? I want to know why boss Chinas and Mokous always managed to kill troops hundreds of levels above them at high levels.

>>39112
I sort of do, actually. There are two types of self-destruct, one for Mokou, one for Hong. They are not the same, statistically.

Mokou's: 30% effectiveness rate, +5%/level. 60 radius, +10/level
China's: 10% effectiveness rate, +2%/level. 30 radius, +2/level

I am pretty sure the effectiveness rates are multiples of their base maximum HP. So a stupid high HP unit like Mokou will be doing like 130% HP damage on death at level 20(?). Since this damage value is huge, defense is pretty negligible by comparison.

...I should probably just up the cnv files somewhere. They are in plain text and actually have Tasofro's (Japanese) documentation still in them.

So, I cant read Japanese, what are the extra modes? And how the hell are you guys getting so high of a level?

>>39174
Wow no wonder Lunatic seems pretty easy with the Scarlet Mansion team.

>>39176
http://www.pooshlmer.com/touhouwiki/index.php/PatchCon:_Miscellaneous

Here you go. Raw stat/skill/etc data. They're just text files, open 'em up in SJIS mode.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/52dwww

>>39185
China is, all around, a really solid unit. She's got good defense, she's got Guts (which is really strong), she's fast, she does pretty good damage, she respawns fairly quickly, and she does some aoe damage when she dies, though not really much. Sakuya is pretty okayish, too.

They're pretty easy compared to, say, Lunatic PoFV team. I have completed that - Once. And was never able to replicate it.

>>39221
POFV I've done once too. Sometimes you gotta hope they don't send wave after wave of the wrong kind of units.

>>39242
Self-destruct kicks in every single time, you can tell that just from looking at the game.

>>39242
Latter would be retarded lol.

>>39255
>>39258
Good point. I think I've seen it fail to kick in occasionally, though; now I need to look at the mechanics of Nullify. Bah!

>>39281
Nullify is, for whatever reason, listed as 妨害 in the data.

If I'm reading the data right, it seems to kick in 50% of the time, +2%/level. Which is obscene.

>>39313
This is an outright lie based on my experiments with level 300+ Hina, or the area-of-effect for it only activates after a second or two (possible). Still pretty crazy, though.

>>39353
Well it's possible that it's doing something silly like multiplying the chance of success in half. Who knows.

I only have numbers, any algorithms the game uses are pure speculation at this point.

>>42905
So you're saying Trap not Waifu?

Anyhoo I lol'd mightily

Great team, or greatest team?

everytime i try to run it it doesn't work just shuts off ;_;
am i soppoes to have other langues installed on the pc to get it to work ?

>>39242

um, which one is china?

I just now put two and two together that it's generally better to have ranged units a good distance in front of the melee instead of lined up behind.
Other slowpokes, keep that in mind. They'll get an opening volley and if they're attacked by something melee, they'll back up, your melee characters will charge in front, and the ranged characters will be in a good range to attack the whole time.

At a certain poin in Lunatic you have to send your entire force at ranged just so melee can get in.

well, ive been playing this game for a while, and Im trying to get far on infinite. I cant, for the life of me, get past the level 8 enemys. They just out level me

>>41930
Do not use Melee units against Patchi.
Use danmaku units. They kill Patchi and Patchi's attacks vanish before hitting your units.

>>42126
It.. It's so beautiful..

>>42203
Sakuya spam always worked for me. Made a 100 of them then only upgraded. Lunatic is easy with this.

Setting up an exploit infinite lunatic level.
Choose china, twei, reisin and the last two your choice.
1. Build 70 china and 30 reisin
2. Level china and reisin equally up to level 6, reisin before china.
3. Raise china to level 12. sell
4. Make 600 twei and level them to 17. sell
5. Now you can either create around 100 level 400 reisin or do whatever you please with your last two character slots.
AoE exploding land targeting danmaku are imperitive at level 200+ reimu, patchy, etc.
Unless you face mukou or china, keine can make it through thousands of enemies with her reflection and evasion.
Twei units Increase skill activation rate. Reisin is a goddess.

>>42263

Heh, now I feel silly. I played a round before completing my reply so I'd have a screenshot to go with. Guess I'll give your advice a go.

>>42521
>before the game is finished
Play on Infinity Mode. The game never ends until you have all your books stolen or quit.

"Waaaaaa!"
"Haaaa!!"
"Hmmm?"
"Uhh..."
"Huh?"
"Hh?"
"Hhhnnnn..."
"Uhhhhnnngg!"

Fuck I love those voice/sound effects.

>"Uhhhhnnngg!"
Not sure what you've been doing to your youkai, but mine have been squeaking, not making manly grunts.

>>42841
That's the sound they make when they are hit by Reisen, from behind, critically.

illegal Immigrant + Meido + random*3 = Win