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Yes, me. SA is harder.

Polite sage.

Yes, SA is harder.

I suppose UFO lunatic might be the hardest of them all, but I'm don't have any personal experience to back that claim.

Depends on what the difficulty pertains to.

SA was harder.

No.

I can't run SA on my laptop so I never had a chance to play it.

>>4286195
>>4286197
>>4286199

SAmind

>>4286195
>>4286197
>>4286199
I'm pretty sure when we are discussing "most difficult" we are talking about lunatic. And if you think SA lunatic is harder than EOSD lunatic there might be something wrong with you.

>>4286201

This. Quit being faggots.

SA is harder.

>>4286214
EOSD Lunatic: 5 months.
SA Lunatic: 7 before I gave up.

I'm nowhere near the average player, but my experience tells me that SA is harder on all aspects.

On normal SA is harder. On lunatic EoSD is harder, especially some of Pachy/Remilias stuff.

>>4286240
you have severe problems with memorization and problem solving, then.

Shoot the Bullet and Lotus Land Story's extra

SA

as far as windows games,
SA > EoSD > MoF > UFO > PCB > IN
is how I'd rank them.

My ranks on Lunatic.

UFO > SA > EoSD > IN > MoF > PCB

IN is muscle memory and I don't practice often so it's really dickish. Also SA Lunatic really screws you over if you use Marisa.

I can never get past Patchy

>76b66f8ca6fccce35f84b888b12898(...).jpg
I... what? That silly Photoshop edit got uploaded to Dan/Gelbooru? Color me amused.

am I the only one who thinks that MoF is the hardest...? so much randomness, so fast projectiles.

I'm currently trying to 1cc EoSD lunatic. I'm at the point where I can manage to get to Scarlet Gensokyo occasionally. How long do you think it will take to pass the barrier of Remilia's last card?

>>4286287
Marisa-A solves your problem, friend. Patchy is easy as fuck with Marisa-A

>>4286313
A spare life with bombs should cut it close. Maybe just a spare life depending on how late you die going into that spell. Hopefully you're not finishing off Scarlet Meister while a bomb is in effect; you'll miss out on cutting off about a fourth of her health.

1cc perspective:

Hard
UFO > SA > EoSD > MoF > IN > PCB

Lunatic
UFO > SA > EoSD > IN > MoF > PCB

It can be a little difficult to kick off SA runs but the trip eventually steadies out and becomes easier near the end. EoSD on the other hand will probably stop with score extends (all four of them) entering stage four, and then it's an uphill battle with not much extra aid to look forward to. SA is still more prone to restarts.

>>4286315
I have to rely on Reimu-A so much. I'll give it a try though!

>>4286452
patchy is harder than sakuya with reimu-a IMHO

I would be curious to know which parts of SA on lunatic are considered harder than Scarlet Meister and Scarlet Gensokyo on lunatic.

Easy
MS > SoEW > SA > EoSD > MoF > PCB > UFO > IN > LLS

i swear, MS easy > LLS normal
and in b4 LOL EASY MODO

someone rank normal and extra stages plox

>>4286847
LOL EASY MODO

..............................

>>4286847
I don't agree with some of that list, but LLS definitely needs to be where it is.
Easiest touhou out of them all.

>>4286898
Normal:
SA > EOSD > UFO > MoF > IN > PCB

>>4287093
Forgot to clarify something, SA is only harder because of stage 6 being utterly ridiculous compared to all the other stage 6 bosses.

>>4287093
>MoF > IN > PCB
More like
PCB > MoF > IN

>>4286898
>plox

I implore you to change your ways when participating in threads such as this, even though the OP may have intended to stir trouble. And you may as well start by listing your own opinions.

Normal 1cc
UFO = SA > EoSD > MoF > IN > PCB

Normal no-bomb
UFO = SA = MoF > EoSD = IN > PCB

Extra no-bomb
IN > *

>>4287113
Lol no. PCB is a joke. You get a free bomb 2-3 times every stage that also comes with invincibility for a few seconds. I almost 1cc'd it on my first playthrough. IN is fairly easy due to the deathbomb, but the later stages are pretty challenging (Stage 5/6 are MUCH harder than PCB, don't try to tell me they aren't) and the time system is difficult for new players to grasp. MoF's power system is very unforgiving until the later levels, and that's only if you can successfully beat the non spell cards without bombing. Otherwise you will usually draw dead and wind up taking a life. Couple that with the fact that the system is score based, and that it relies on grabbing free falling powerups as well as dashing to the top to auto-collect as well as the continue system, and you have a game that is much harder than the latter two.

>>4287093
Maybe because I started with EoSD and didn't move on till I 1cc'd it on normal, but I have no issues with it at all any more. I'd say for normal it's more

UFO > SA > MoF > EoSD > IN (non-border team) > PCB > IN (border team)

MoF is only so high due to Kanako's final spell card. Fuck that thing for penalizing my death bomb reflexes. I'm better off just sucking it up and taking the death. Also, only picked up UFO last night. It'll probably be easier after I have better UFO collection patterns and more experience with the new shot types. Overall, it doesn't seem too bad.

>>4287107
>>Implying that SA stage 6 is hard and that the real challenge isn't taking stupid deaths in the first 3 stages.

>>4287189
yah, massing red UFOs makes the game a lot easier

has anyone played MS on higher difficulties?

>>4287188
I actually had a harder time with PCB than IN. In IN I played as the Magic team, so I didn't have to fight Marisa, which meant that the only real threat was Eirin. In PCB, I would lose lives by doing stupid stuff against the Prismrivers, Youmu, and Yuyuko.

>>4287202
i haven't played it myself, but isn't SA stage 5 lunatic supposed to be one of - if not the most - difficult stage 5 lunatic in the series?

>>4287232
SA Stage 5 lunatic will break you.

Normal: MS>SA>UFO>EoSD>IN*>SoEW>PCB>MoF
* without border team

Haven't 1cc'd the other three, the fighting games are a different matter, and if unlocking extra counts as a 1cc for StB, then I haven't done that either.

>>4287216
>stupid stuff

That happens everywhere. Well, after playing PCB for a bit (and giving IN less than one-fifth the treatment) I conclude that PCB suffers less from wall-in shit and moderate-high difficult attacks. On Normal at least. All the extra lives and borders it throws on you are just bonus.

>>4287220
Haven't touched it in a while but cleared it a while back with Mima only. The stages don't change so much that you're encouraged to actually form a route. Boss battles are mostly short-lived and intense attacks.

>>4287251
Mystic Fucking Square is not the hardest normal mode in the series. I took a break from getting my ass pounded by EoSD to 1CC it and Lotus Land Story back to back in a handful of tries each.

>>4287298
Seconding this (even if it's just anecdotal evidence). I was getting bored of MoF, so I decided try out MS, and ended up 1CCing my very first try with Mima. LLS story took about 3 or 4 with Marisa, though.

>>4286185
StB > SA > UFO > PCB > * > IN = MF

EoCD is the only game that I've been able to 1cc normal mode with every character. Seriously, I'm even having trouble with Cherry Blossom, but I can do EoSD no problem. I always assumed that made it easier.

>>4287344
I'd have to disagree with that if we bring difficulties above normal. Nothing on StB is that hard if you make a reasonable enough plan except for a few scenes that are just particularly hateful like 9-6.

>>4287408
StB stages 8 through 9 are hard mode. And stages 10 - extra are lunatic mode.

>>4287232
Stage 5 is overhyped, really. Maybe at higher difficulty it's the embodiment of rape, but on normal it isn't bad. You can just stay bottom/center on Orin's first exploding zombie fairies spell card and graze easily enough. I actually find it easier than herding them and firing when they're clear of Orin. Honestly, I lose more lives on stages 1-3 collecting power ups than I do in the last 3 stages.

>>4287684 here again
On a further note, while stage 6 is easy, I find it to be one of the most fun stages in all the Windows Touhou games. Seriously, amazing stuff.