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Please rate my 2hu piano composition /jp/
https://voca.ro/1o2TiBVtXmdW
I accept all criticism, even if it's harsh but please be gentle anyway as this is my first real composition

>> No.42793227

>>42793073
There are 0 fucking trumpets/10
What were you thinking???

>> No.42793241

>>42793073
I'm not good at giving criticism on music related things but I didn't hear anything that really stood out as bad
Overall I thought it was pretty good anon

>> No.42793280

>>42793227
For now i try to only use the piano, i decided to this to keep it simple and also to focus my attention on melody writing. Composing with a single instrument is easier than composing with multiple instruments as there are less things to keep track of, and the piano is sufficient for most things.
I could probably change some parts here and there and add some trumpets, i'm not sure if it will actually sound good, i will try and see.
>>42793241
Is there any part that seems to come abruptly?
Also what vibes do you get from this?

>> No.42793307

>>42793073
The part with the alternating notes on the "bass" starting at 1:30 put me off a little to be honest, but otherwise it was solid, but nothing I would listen to repeatedly.

>> No.42794827

>>42793073
The piano is solid, just add in some other instruments like trumpets. Something around 0:53 for sure.

>> No.42795130

>>42793073
Sounds fine but there are more than enough piano versions of touhou songs, either play it in public and post it on youtube or add other instruments

>> No.42795608

>>42793073
I agree with the other anons that its solid, however it really could have used more instruments.
>>42793280
I think trying with just 1 instrument to start is fine to keep it simple, but you should definitely try adding more to it since you the piano is pretty good.

>> No.42798147

yeah i'm thinking kino
needs more zunpet though!

>> No.42798151

>>42793073
can you gib midi files so i can remix it :^)

>> No.42799632
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42799632

>>42793280
>i will try and see
Well, i tried but most notes are out of range and the transition between trumpets and piano is awkward.

>>42798151
Here you go, included with the midi is the score pdf and the musescore file (in case you also have musescore):
https://files.catbox.moe/b87hsm.zip
beware that measure 32 contains a soft rallentando (tempo should slow down from 160 to 155) which is messed by the midi file, you can use the pdf for reference to fix it.

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42802073

>>42793073
Hey anon, I really liked it.

>> No.42803747

>>42793073
awesome, keep it up

>> No.42805031

>>42793073
It would work well with PC98 instruments

>> No.42805903
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42805903

>piano song
>no melody, just fast wankery

it's bad.

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42806159

>>42799632
thnx working on soemuthng right now

>> No.42806245
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>> No.42806881
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42806881

Glistering Darkness (Anon's "lolispeedshit" 180BPM remix)
https://voca.ro/1gFjqE4uQbhO

>> No.42806979

>>42806881
where are the loli moans? kuso rmx.

>> No.42807019

>>42806979
sorry im not as cool as bloody vomit bukake

>> No.42809982
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42809982

So far the only real criticism i got is that it lacks instrumentation (particularly ZUNpets), and also an abrupt bass transition at 1:28 according to this anon >>42793307
I was mostly concerned about the melody but I'm glad it turned out to be good, now i only need to work on my instrumentation skills.
Thank you all for your feedback.

>>42793280
>Also what vibes do you get from this?
Can someone answer this please? i need to know if the music conveys the emotion or picture i have in my head. What emotion do you get from this? does it sound happy, sad, melancholic, scary, etc.? Which 2hu does it makes you think of? And most importantly does it sound like 2hu? (i.e. if you were to listen to this without context would recognize it as a 2hu style song?)

>>42806881
Lol, definitely not what i was expecting, but gj anyway, i'm just glad someone liked it enough to make a remix out of it.

>> No.42810041 [DELETED] 

I'm not a music person so I can't precisely pinpoint it but the piano beats feel like they have no structure to them. Like it was randomly generated without thought. There are a ton of good/single instrument songs I've listened to so the lack of ZUNpets and other instruments isn't the problem. It's the said lack of structure, the rhythm doesn't really continuously flow but discretely switches and it's not even a nice rhythm to begin with.

>> No.42810110
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42810110

I'm not a music person so I can't precisely pinpoint it but the piano beats feel like they have no structure to them. Like it was randomly generated without thought. There are a ton of good/single instrument songs I've listened to so the lack of ZUNpets and other instruments isn't the problem. It's the said lack of structure, the rhythm doesn't really continuously flow but discretely switches and maybe if it "flowed" continuously it would have sounded much better.

>> No.42810251

>>42810110
Also wanted to add the timestamps that stick out to me to be a more helpful:

00:28-00:30 and 00:37-00:39 random piano beats that don't fit in with the rest of the music.
00:43-00:46 the change here is a little sudden and out of nowhere, I like the piano being played here though.
01:02-01:03 another sudden change
01:12 and the continuation is a bit too chaotic and feel like piano spam
01:21-01:24 another sudden change
It ended too abruptly instead at 02:20-02:23

Yeah it seems my problem with the track is the changes in melody and rhythm not blending together and feeling like they've been forcibly stitched together. However other than that it's genuinely nice. But it's something that stands out.

>> No.42810259

>>42810251
But it's not something that stands out.**

>> No.42814046

Bump

>> No.42814394

>>42810110
>>42810251
Last thing I wanted to add is 00:05-00:07 is yet another sudden and unnatural change.

>> No.42814446

>>42793280
>Also what vibes do you get from this?
>>42809982
>Can someone answer this please? i need to know if the music conveys the emotion or picture i have in my head. What emotion do you get from this? does it sound happy, sad, melancholic, scary, etc.?
Intensity, dutiful formality, grace in presentation of action, some slight traces of animosity and bloodlust, fieriness in the end
>Which 2hu does it makes you think of?
Mokou duking it out with Sakuya
>And most importantly does it sound like 2hu? (i.e. if you were to listen to this without context would recognize it as a 2hu style song?)
Affirmative, but it could fit in some other franchises too.

Quite solid, looking forward to possible expansion with more instruments.

>> No.42815223

>>42793073
Very good. For some reason it gaveme more pokemon fight theme vibes than Touhou.

>> No.42818788
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42818788

Unfortunately i didn't have a lot of free time today and yesterday so i didn't work on this song more, please wait warmly a day or two while i get my shit together.

>>42810110
>>42810251
>>42810259
>>42814394
yeah that's something i should've paid more attention to, i have completely ignore musical forms and structure when i made this.
>But it's not something that stands out
It's a start, at least i made it into the "not bad" category of music

>>42814446
>dutiful formality, grace in presentation of action
I'm not sure what that means.
>intensity, some slight traces of animosity and bloodlust, fieriness in the end
Bingo, i basically tried to make something that sounds like Gengetsu's theme but more intense. I used the same chord progression in the beginning of Gengetsu's theme.
This was basically my inspiration: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgBvzutftwo

Anyway thank you both for your feedback, i really appreciate it.

>> No.42822021

>>42818788
>please wait warmly a day or two while i get my shit together
aight bruv

>> No.42826596

Needs a bit more short arpeggios maybe

>> No.42826706

>>42793073
It's not bad but it sound nothing like a Touhou soundtrack.

>> No.42828878

>>42806881
Better than OPs lets be honest

>> No.42834645

uhhh, bunp
ya better deliver OP

>> No.42835049
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42835049

>>42834645
Alright, posting my WIP so far, i still don't know how to make transitions smoother
https://voca.ro/16kyxaq9ssdB
Somehow i feel that i made the transitions worse

Feel free to berate me

>> No.42835247

Also not sure which tempo is best, the one i posted >>42835049 is at 170 BPM while the piano version in the OP is at 160 BPM

See which tempo you like yourself
160 BPM: https://voca.ro/1aYIr7U6BJL5
150 BPM: https://voca.ro/15phwigrs2AM
140 BPM: https://voca.ro/1j9ZOJZOAT5d

>> No.42835859

>>42835247
Sounds a lot more like a touhou theme. I'd imagine this as a stage 2 theme. Also I think 150/160 BPM sounds better if you want it to be slow/fast. 140 is too slow and 170 is too fast.

>> No.42840880

>>42835049
Decent

>> No.42844724

against all odds, flash of remembrance to bump until OP is done!

>> No.42844737

>>42835049
>>42835247
Yeah I'm more of a sucker for 170 BPM at the moment, but others are fine to listen to as well

>> No.42844756

>>42844724
>p*ge 10
Something's not working, well in worst case scenario OP can just make a new thread

>> No.42844830 [DELETED] 

>>42844756

>> No.42845078

>>42809982
>Also what XXXX do you get from this?
I would answer it but you used a normalfag word.

>> No.42845093

>>42828878
No.

>> No.42845104

>>42845078
who are you quoting

>> No.42848402

>>42844724
I don't want to disappoint you but i'm getting demotivated about this song, i tried making and adding many melodies but they don't fit or flow well with the rest of the song, i think i'm just going to do some minor modification and call it a day, my ears are sore from listening to it every time i edit it and my brain is completely empty... I just want to be done with this so i can work on something else.

>> No.42849730

>>42835049
neat

>> No.42851537

>>42848402
that's fine

>> No.42851620
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42851620

Are you self taught?

>> No.42851742
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42851742

>>42851620
yes

>> No.42854078
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42854078

Okay i don't think i can make this any better, here's the final version, it's only slightly different from the one i posted above:
https://voca.ro/1jm5yU2QNexW
With PC98 soundfont: https://voca.ro/1dRrX1XAiUXH
Alternative PC98 soundfont: https://voca.ro/1eJYGp5lmXTq
It's not great but it's decent enough i guess.

I will now try to compose something else, i might post it here if this thread remains alive, no promises though.
Anyway, thank you everyone for enduring my very crude tunes.

>> No.42854416

>>42854078
it's decent. PC98 version is awful, both of them.

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42854634

>>42854078
Have you considered opening a youtube channel or a soundcloud account?

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42854649

>>42854078
Have you considered opening a youtube channel or a soundcloud account?
>https://voca.ro/1jm5yU2QNexW
It actually sounds good! A massive improvement to the version in the OP.

>> No.42855470

>>42854649
>Have you considered opening a youtube channel or a soundcloud account?
I'm just starting out anon, i'm not at that level yet.

>> No.42858617

>>42854078
Good enough.

>> No.42858640

>>42855470
Not that anon but I would 100% support you and subscribe to you!

>> No.42863127

>>42793073
i liked it/10

>> No.42863723

8/10

>> No.42863733

>>42863723
is referring to >>42854078

>> No.42867029 [DELETED] 

cool

>> No.42867302
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42867302

c-can i post my touhou song too?
i tried to make it like the CD tracks
https://voca.ro/1hB3eaIICd8z

>> No.42867370
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42867370

>>42867302
Better than OP's

>> No.42867709

>>42806881
only good in thread. rest is shit

>> No.42867752

>>42867302
i like it, it's quite good. maybe it could use more variation on the drum machine, just to break the things a little.

>> No.42867791 [DELETED] 

>>42793073
Wow actually pretty good
Now add trumpets

>> No.42867807
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42867807

You're so talented /jp/sies!

How do you learn compsing music? I have no idea how you "come up" with a piece

>> No.42867826

>>42867302
Really like this one, if you told me this was a new 2hu stage or CD song I would have believed you

>> No.42868437

>>42867752
whenever I transcribe ZUN songs into MIDI, I always have to pay attention to the variations in the drum track since I can't just copypaste like I did in the original, so yeah, I'll focus on that a bit more next time. Good point!

>> No.42869780

>>42867807
I'm not talented but this anon >>42867302 might just be

>> No.42869954

>>42867302
Very good anon.

>> No.42870962

>>42858640
Thank you for your kind words although i still believe I'm not completely competent at music-making yet, i need to practice by making more compositions before i even consider making a channel or something like that.

>>42867302
I like the piano in the beginning, the rhythm in the beginning is very reminiscent of the beginning of Hong Meiling theme but slowed down, what soundfont did you use for the piano?

>> No.42871224

>>42845104
you can clearly see who he is quoting, crossie-kun...

>> No.42872897

>>42870962
I used the Steinberg VST The Grand 3 - Model D Close patch. It's the same piano used in most modern ZUN titles.

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42878651

>>42867302
Do you have a youtube or soundcloud?

>> No.42882123
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42882123

https://vocaroo.com/13DufXaRE8cf
Lemme pitch in with a WIP as well

>> No.42882161

>>42867302
I really like this. Please make a youtube channel or something if you haven't already.

>> No.42882196

>>42882123
this is not touhou, this is just a gay piano song.

>> No.42882270

>>42882196
It is Touhou though

>> No.42883503

>>42882196
you are gay
>>42882123
nice toon

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42883695

>>42878651
>>42882161
Most of my work in this genre goes directly to other people's game projects so I don't really use YouTube/Soundcloud for it anymore. Now I mainly post my Touhou Eurobeat there which isn't relevant.
But I do have an album in touhou style that I made somewhat recently: https://audius.co/shinko/playlist/multi-dimensional-fantasy-ost-14085
I still have to create the game which I made this music for...

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42883880

>>42883695
Oh my, you're shinkonet? I already know about your channel, and I really loved the PC-98 covers of modern touhou songs that you did.

>> No.42883951

>>42883880
Thanks. People like asi14 took up the torch for me on the PC-98 front, good recommendation if thats what you enjoy.

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42883955

>>42883695
Oh my, you're shinkonet? I already know about your channel, and I really loved the PC-98 covers of modern touhou songs that you did. I kind of hoped that you would do more of them.

>> No.42883969

>>42883951
Oh I didn't know, thanks for the info.

>> No.42887745

>>42854078
I like the PC98 versions a bit more

>> No.42892205

>>42793073
The song is terrible, sorry OP

>> No.42896871

>>42867302
This is the only good track to come out of this thread

>> No.42900895 [DELETED] 

>>42793073
cute song good job op

>> No.42903341

>>42896871
sorry meant to quote >>42806881

>> No.42910308

>>42835049
It’s shit.

>> No.42912422

>>42903341
No he didn't.

>> No.42921470

>>42867302
Better than OP's

>> No.42926365

>>42793073
very nice

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