/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>a dating sim with magic and swords
No, that's Persona.

Ar tonelico is visual novel rather than dating sim.

In before take it to /v/

This is a take it back to /v/ game.

>>4275917
You'll discover that Chroche is more yan than tsun.
The 1st level is a nice anticipation of the shit you're getting into after the 5th one.

TAKE THIS SHIT BACK TO /JP/

I would contribute to this thread but I don't want to get my anus haxed by a Russian pedophile and bot herder.

The characters and plot are really the main focus, and the various mechanics are just vehicles to present it to us in a game format. Hence the less than satisfying battle and crafting systems.

>>4275949
Yeah, I'm getting this feeling already...

I heard that NIS cut out some voice from the game. And I'm missing some alright, even though I downloaded an undub ("This UNDUB has the USA english text with the *complete* Japanese spoken dialog"). Is this a problem with my copy of game or are parts of game are actually not voiced?

Also, there are some strange glitches with PC falling under the ground when coming close to chests. Does this happen only in emulator?

>>4275960
............ what gave me away?

>Is this actually a dating sim with magic and swords?
No, a visual novel with magic and a rocket powered lance.

I didn't realize the US version had so much dialogue ripped. I haven't heard a single word since I chose Cloche in phase1, and I'm about 2-3 hours past that.

>>4275974
Nope, the game isn't fully voiced.
As for falling throught the floor I don't think it can be solved, try using more precise rounding options.
But it's not really an issue and doesn't break the game anyways.

>>4275974
yeah, it's not 100% voiced even with undub.

>>4275983
Yea. It also doesn't have a very good translation.

Fuck off.

Does not go here.

Is that a PS2 emulator? Which one do you use?
Last time I tried to do a PS2 game all of the emulators were shitty.

Take it to /v/.

>>4276006
Go someplace else.

>>4276006
Pcsx2 is the only one that works.

Great.

I was enjoying a /jp/ without this shit.

>>4276012
Doesn't be long here.

>>4276006
When was the last time you tried using one? The emulation has been pretty good for a while now.

On another note, anyone here playing/watching AT3 right now? I was just watching some playthrough video from niconico and I have to say that AT3 Cosmospheres are just so weird and out of the whack, well atleast the upperlevels are. Haven't laughed this hard in while.

>>4276024
>>4276020
Not here.

THIS SHIT GOES IN /v/.

Another off-topic thread and more shit.

>>4276020
I guess it has been a while, now that I think about it.

the glitch you mentioned isn't rare, it happened to me in mana khemia 2, it's no big deal.

>>4276024
Fuck, don't remind me.
My package is still on the way.

>>4276046
>>4276045
>>4276043
Take it to ­/­v.

Despite the crybaby, this is /v/.

Please, just let this thread die.

Another thread full of hidden posts, feels god man. The more you shit up this thread the faster another will be made soon after so it's not like you're achieving anything.

In before a hidden post replies to this.

>>4276006
I think there is only one...
I'm using pcsx2. You basically download latest beta installer from http://pcsx2.net/downloads.php?p=publicbeta plus latest plugins from there as well, ps2 bios from tpb (I even googled it for you: http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4170684/PS2_Bios_Files)), and it just works (actually, you still have to configure alot, but it's pretty intuitive). You need a real dual core processor (not pentium 4 with hyper-threading) and a video card that is less than 5 years old.

To people suggesting me to move to /v/: No. I bet you never ewven been to /v/; that board is not a place to discuss games, and inhabitants of /v/ are not really people you would want to discuss anything with.

>>4276066
Filtering does not work.

>>4276067
We proved MANY times that it does go there and that you can get a better discussion there than here.

The RPGers create these threads because they know they'll become shit like this.

>>4276081
Care to provide an easymodo link?

>>4276081

It doesn't? Then explain why about 1/4 of this thread is hidden then?

>Post an AT thread
>Have a nice discussion ignoring the "take it to /v/" trolls
>After that continue bumbing the thread for lols and giggles with useless and redundant arguments
>Trolls mad
>Repeat
I love you guys.

>>4276081
well not going to argue about it, but have been in /v/ and made AT threads there, guesss what? there was fucking zero discussion there, atleast I can get discussion here, now shut up.

>>4275917
Wait till you get Mir/Jakuri. She will be your waifu.

Also I will always bump these threads, and there's nothing you faggots can do about me discussing what I feel is Japanese related. Enjoy your futility.

>>4276087
http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/jp/thread/S4241400

>>4276088
All of you guys are hiding yourselves.

bumping a visual novel thread

You guys are just doing this on purpose.

Hell, it's probably just one person doing ALL this.

>>4276100
It's not.

Go to the other board

>>4276111
You're just now realizing this?

To /v/, take it back.

>>4276106
1) I don't believe A-san is deleting Ar Tonelico threads in /jp/ (someone else? maybe, yes)
2) It doesn't prove I'll get a better thread in /v/, it only means some cretin might delete the thread; nothing to worry about, I'll make new.

>>4276116
I mean one guy doing EVERYTHING, including making the thread and arguing with himself.

>>4276089
It's not like there's anything worthwhile on the front page anyway. There's:
Mokou/Kaguya thread - OK
/ck/ thread - Questionable
AT thread - /v/
Idol thread - GTFO
"Where in Japan is a good w/ hot chicks? - HUEHUEHUEHUEHUE
Umineko anime thread #6541654132 - Old and tired
Nue thread - OK
Battlestar Galactica thread - what the fuck?
test - test

By the way, some of the lyrics are out if any of you is interested.
XaaaCi is as awesome as it sound.
http://artonelico.isisview.org/viewforum.php?f=14&sid=8310c808b0a576e316c973933c9f9813

Can someone explain how this is not a /jp/ related thread?

>>4276126
>Battlestar Galactica thread - what the fuck?
>Confusing BSG with Babylon 5

You're a fucking retard.

This is /­v­/.

You too stupid to realize it's not and while the other people know their thread is not /jp/.

There is this one guy bumping the thread everytime and 2 or 3 people that post ocasionally.

>>4276106

What? Even a simple filter of /v/ pretty much hides 95% of the faggotry that occurs in these threads.

Do not answer ot the troll please, maybe that way we can have decent thread. Also AT is /jp/ related, moot agreed dont bother him about it.
Also if the /v/ troll doesnt know, AT is more VN tha a game.

>>4276132
JRPGs with gimmicks were never /jp/ since they always had their own board.

I'm postponing all cosmospheres until I get near the end so I don't have to replay much. Am I doing it right?

>>4276006
PCSX2 0.9.7.2429 works great. Just remember to set the EE/FPU to nearest or you'll fall near crates/chests.

>>4276148
Wrong.

It's sad you still think that.

Good heavens, look at the time! Jakuri time!

No one erases anything on /jp/, there are no mods,
Only newfags playing legion don't get the real reason why threads disappear.

>>4276132
Japanese RPGs are not /jp/ related.
Didn't you know ?
Hell Japan itself is not /jp/ related, people bitch at you and send you to /trv/.
Yes, anons here are that stupid.

Why don't you just not make these threads?

Then you guys win and can free discuss it wherever you want and the trolls won't have anything to do.

>>4276151
Okay.
What are the recommended specs to run the emulator in the first place?

>>4276149
And so are fighters, and so are other things. /jp/ is /jp/ because everything goes. Why do you have to be such a douche?

Needs moar Saki

>>4276171
2D games like Ar Tonelico ? Any dual core over 2Ghz and a decent GPU.
3D games requires at least a 3Ghz dual core and a good GPU.

Oh yeah, so /jp/ related. /jp/ is awesome. /jp/ is your god.

>>4276162
>Yes, anons here are that stupid.
>here

Go back to your own shitty boards that you made shitty. We don't want you coming here and bringing your plague with you.

Realize that you killed your own world. Don't try to terraform ours, you fucking pricks.

>>4276171
>>4276174
Not here.

>>4276162
I was here since the board was created and long before. JRPGs are /jp/ related. We had plenty of threads discussing these games without you creeps telling us to go away.

Stop bumping your own fucking threads.

Why don't they just leave if all they want to do is discuss AT and JRPGs?

>>4276171
Specs need to be rather midrange. I would say at least a dual core at around 2.5GHz and at least an 8600GT. Although it's been a while since I used it so I'm probably wrong.

EXEC_EP=NOVA/ is now playing in your head manually, and you cant do a thing about it.

>>4276178
>>4276183
Oh yes, here. RIGHT HERE. Always gonna be here.

>>4276177
>>4276181
I think I got misunderstood pretty badly here.

>>4276178
WHY THE FUCK NOT?! The very point of 4chan is that it's okay to go offtopic. Why do you have to play the role of the god damn police every time anon?

>>4276181
Wrong.

People ALWAYS argued against these threads.

It's not like the Idols, where they had to make this their home; you guys have a decent home already on another board.

The absolute proof that JRPGs are /jp/ related is that we have a dedicated group of users who organize swiftly to oppose any and all JRPG threads.

>>4276190
Because they discuss other things too. Ashame your small mind cannot comprehend it.

>>4276171
http://forums.pcsx2.net/thread-2331.html

>>4276024
Which version are you watching? I was truly dumbfounded when the system was explained: The girls get powers from the starts, so if they strip down more of their skin gets exposed and they get even more power from the stars.

There's always a lot of discussion of AT2, which is admittedly the better game. What did everyone think of AT1 though?

Despite being relatively mediocre, it was engrossing enough to hook me into the series and guarantee I would pick up AT2 when it did come out. Looking back on it now, however, I don't know why I enjoyed it as much as I did. The characters weren't particularly interesting to me, the level of difficulty was laughable, and the story wasn't anything special. I thought it had better pacing than AT2 though.

>decent GPU
>good GPU
>onboard geforce 8200

Fuck me

It's official: the JRPG supporters are bigger trolls/kids than the crybaby.

>>4276199
/v/ is not a decent home for rpgs period, let alone jrpgs. Don't speak about shit you know nothing about.

>>4276209
>>4276205
Take it out of here.

>>4276199
>a decent home already on another board
/v/ - Western Video Games?

I'm afraid not.

You all need to fucking leave.

>>4276174
>>4276174
>>4276174
>>4276174

>>4276199
I swear 1/3 of AT threads were made by myself since the start of /jp/ and never I've seen people bitching about them before you guys started shitposting.

>>4276199
>you guys have a decent home already on another board.
You're talking about /v/ are you?
Because if you are then you're wrong.

/v/ is pretty much bioware/valve board. shit get stale real quick.

>>4276217
You are wrong.

They had MANY good JRPG discussions there and they have been posted in these threads even.

Stop thinking that just because you like something, that it goes here.

>>4276151
Yes you are. You won't even have the opportunity to get past the point of no return in the cosmospheres until like the end of phase 2 anyway because of the way the talk topics are staggered.
Magic in AT2 is so ridiculously overpowered you don't need any more than the first five levels anyway, if you're being completionist.

Why won't they shut the fuck up?

>>4276231
Not here.

>>4276229
>>4276227
>>4276217

Even if that was true, wallow in it. You faggots made /v/ like it is, so deal with it. Don't bring your shit here.

I wish we could get a mod in here to show that all sages and back to /v/ posts are made by same person, or by two of them at most.

>>4276190
I just assume they're trolling. These threads that belong on the other board always seem to get guaranteed 100+ replies.

Mir > Ilya

>>4276230
It is part of Japanese otaku culture and it doesn't go on /a/. Pretty much the definition of things that go on /jp/, isn't it?

>>4276241
You'll be wrong.

I only made a few posts here.

>>4276205
following this version: http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm9538252 it has most fights, shopping cut-out so it most of time story only. Also anyone who understands japanese watch that video from around 1.00 - 7.20, you'll laugh. it's not really spoiler so dont worry, just funny event at Finnels cosmosphere level 3.

>>4276207
I prefer AT1's system.
Installs > Girl power
Weapon customization (upgrades) > None.
"Classic" RPG combat > Button mashing and save(state)scumming.

One thing I noticed is that I prefer the blue heroine over the red one on both games.

>>4276230
Hell no, JRPGs threads there becomes either spam of tits, pantyshots or some other lolrandum xD shit or gets ignored or shitposted by people calling weeaboos like the imperium calling heretics.
The only succesful JRPGs threads on /v/ are Chrono Trigger/Cross and Final Fantasy IX.

>>4276250
>>4276251
Go away.

THEY WON'T LEAVE.

>>4276239
If people argue galge isn't /jp/ related, I'm going to argue Im@s and a whole bunch of other shit isn't /jp/ related

>>4275917
>Is this actually a dating sim with magic and swords? I just downloaded the game because someone kept posting about it, but I never expected it to be this much relationship-centered.
Really? People kept posting that it really was a Galge game focused on the different heroines and their routes, the gameplay is just something on the side kind of.
It has been posted in a clear majority of all the AT threads on /jp/.

>>4276267
>>4276263
>>4276261
No.

>>4276250
The same as me then. Albeit I'm at part 3 still.

Please, if you care about AT discussion, you would have left this thread a long time ago

>>4276251
>"Classic" RPG combat > Button mashing
You get a lot more damage and other bonuses if you plan your attacks right.

The concept of AtII's system is better, in my opinion. They just needed to increase the difficulty so you can't get away with button mashing.

>>4276263
>Galge game

Let's talk about visual novels on /v/ because those are game too.

Let's talk about touhou on /v/ because those are game too.

I love how the shittposters ignore all of the other spam and unrelated content to focus on this board, which contains more discussion than anything else on the front page.

It's been a while since I've read a thread with so much butthurt.

>>4276275
And surrender to your pathetic attacks? No.

>>4276282
This is not a Visual Novel.

>>4276275
If you didn't care, then you wouldn't be posting now would you?

/jp/ - The Vidya

>>4276289
Neither is Sengoku Rance or Idolmaster

>>4276296
You are wrong.

They are /jp/ related and have been explained in the past.

>>4276282
Just because there is text+image does not make something a visual novel. You fags would like to define anything as a visual novel these days.

Take this back to the other board, already.

The other shit poster know that it does not go here, you guys don't.

>>4276299
if they are jp related then so is AT, they are the fucking same thing aimed at the same people and so on. and if you deny it, you are an idiot.

>>4276299
Then so is Ar Tonelico. I don't feel like explaining it you since you've taken such aggressive attitude towards this thread. We're not leaving. When it gets deleted, I'll make a new one.

If Ar tonelico is /v/, Baldr Sky is /v/.

>>4276192

Actually Method_Metafalica is playing in my head.

>>4276299
/jp/ - Japan/General

1. All things Japanese welcome!

You don't get to pick and choose

If a Japanese game is not released in America it is /jp/ related.
If a Japanese game is released in America it is /v/ related.

amirite? lets get a Tales of Vesperia thread started then.

What were you saying about not doing cosmosphere events?

>>4276328
/jp/ was created to get the shit out of /a/ that didn't already have a place to go (touhou, figs, etc). Your shitty RPGs have always had a board long before /jp/.

AT is /v/ and /jp/ material the same way mecha series are both /a/ and /m/ material

>>4276329
Nope, I'm disagreeing with you

>>4276329
Yume Miru Kusuri is /v/?

>>4276329
thus AT3 jp related as it isnt translated either

WHY WILL YOU NOT LEAVE IF YOU ACTUALLY CARED ABOUT JRPGS/AT?

>>4276341
Thank you

>>4276346
Why are you posting if you don't care?

>>4276341
Wrong.

>>4276346
Because Ar tonelico threads get a decent response at night. Only normalfag scum posting on /jp/ from work or school doesn't appreciate it.

>>4276357
SUP TROLL

>>4276357
Nope, I think he's right.

/jp/ - Japan/General

1. All things Japanese welcome!

>AT thread

Well, okay. The last couple AT threads have gone well. Maybe the pissing and moaning has died off...

>half the thread is whining

Well, that was disappointing.

>>4276358
Wrong again.

I'm a NEET and am always here.

>>4276367
You guys haven't had a decent AT thread in weeks.

>>4276358
But I'm a NEET.

>>4276369
Then why didn't you shitpost all over the pcsx2 settings for Ar tonelico II thread a while back?

>>4276379
and whos fault do you think it is?

>>4276379

If by weeks you mean yesterday before mass deletions everywhere, then sure.

>>4276379
>implying we weren't discussing the game anyways while trolling you at the same time

You guy's can't even discuss it here, so why the fuck are you still shitting up the board?

>>4276379
Had them right before moot trolled the ignorant with the idea of /dg/ and people got butthurt it wasn't happening

>>4276276
I really enjoyed the battle system in AT1 when I played it and really lamented that it was wasted on the nonexistent difficulty level. At first glance, the battle system in AT2 seemed like a step backwards, but after getting accustomed to it, I'd agree in concept it's a more interesting system that ended up being a lost opportunity due to lack of challenge.

>>4276386
Aww. What happened to your job?

>AT thread
>175 posts
Hey, this looks like a succes--
>whine whine whine whine whine
Well, shit.

/jp/ - Japan/General

1. All things Japanese welcome!

>>4276399
Wrong again.

I was always against this shit.

>>4276403
Take it elsewhere.

>>4276404
I quit.

AT2's system is superior simply because it give you the opportunity to defend the Reyvateil as the knight/singer concept implied in the first game.
Too bad Gust sucks at balance and Reyvateils ends up being tougher than the vanguards.

>>4276231
>magic is ridiculously overpowered
Yeah. And if the burst's not enough you can always call in Replakia.

Did the burst really matter in AT1? If the song its already at max phase and you continue charging it (to farm DP), does it deal more damage?

>JRPG
....This is actually kind of dumb. it's a galge game.
Rather than a JRPG one might perhaps say that it's a galge with jrpg elements rather than the other way around, just like how Rance is an eroge with strategy game elements and how Galaxy angel is a galge with strategy game elements, or how Utawareromono is an Eroge with turn based strategy rpg elements etc etc.
It really wouldn't make sense to say that the AT games aren't accepted.

I bet that if the AT games were both available on PC and easy to pirate, translated by some obscure group/company, /p/'s relation to them would be entirely different(different for the ones that doesn't see them as /jp/ related at least)

>>4276412
We're not taking it elsewhere and there's nothing you can do about it. Hows that feel?

>>4276426
>>4276422
Not here.

>>4276412
and then just happened to start to troll these threads when it happened? you ain't fooling anyone

>>4276403
I agree--fortunately ATIII has hard mode and Newgame+ (fucking finally, what was the point of leaving it out of the other games?).
I'm a little sad I won't be able to play dress-up with the new heroines, but on the other hand I think their personas are cuter than they are.

>>4276433
I've heard ATIII's hard mode is brutal on SO3's last difficulty levels.
Can anyone confirm, I'm definetely going to try that, I love controlling smashing frustration.

>>4276403
Yeah.

The thing that, in theory, separates AtII from button mashing is your attacks actually contributing to the burst gauge, sync, etc. If it wasn't for that, it really would be "step backwards"--and it's very easy for it to seem like it is simply because you never actually need to play the system correctly to win.

>>4276433
Good thing also that the other personas have story significance too, and not just another type of costume. Also Saki personalities > Finnels personalities.

>>4276426
Every song has a base damage, the burst level is the increase in % of that damage.
For example a 5000% burst will deal a 500 times the base damage of the song.

DOESN'T BELONG HERE

>>4276251
What savescumming? Battles are easy as fuck in ATII. If timing wasn't involved it would be boring. Manipulating emotions with attacks is great, the only downside is that most of the fights are so easy it doesn't matter (not to mention the game does a poor job of explaining how it all works).

Urelated, but I think the entire IPD system is amazing. It's like pokemon with overpowered cute girls who i perform loving girl/girl therapy on so they will join a fanclub to enjoy my tsundere's masochistic side.

>>4276444
4D mode wasn't THAT brutal if you knew what you were doing with AA Auras

>>4276473
Try using exclamation points too, maybe that will work.

>>4276483
going for strings of perfect guards is the only thing that makes the battle system tolerable

Oh yeah, the OSTs out:
http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=torrentinfo&tid=111625

>>4276483
In truth, the game becomes much more enjoyable with handicaps.
Try it and you'll realize how good it feels, especially capping the Reyvateils at level 15 works wonder.

get this shit out of here
more importantly, get that Touhou shit out of here
also, Rance and all dating sims

eroge where you don't have to make choices (pure visual novels) can stay. But choose-your-own-adventure bullshit like Fate/Stay Night has to go.

>>4276499
Listening ot the ost feels like a spoiler, and I haven't gotten myself the game yet either cause I don't want to play it in moon.
;_;

>>4276469
The best heroines

>>4276524
They're called kinetic novels, newfag.

This does not go here!

>>4276531
Agree with that comment, only need Cloche there and would be better.

>>4275916
Stop spamming and harassing www. anon
talk
.com

>>4276525
It might be better to play it in moon. The translation will probably be terrible, anyway.

I bought AT2 off amazon for about £15, and the cheapest I can find AT1 for is about £44. I can't use a PS2 emulator since my PC is shit. Will I be missing alot of relevant information if I just play AT2?

>>4276540

Hey buddy, since you like playing culture police so much, why don't you go take care of that final fantasy thread on the front page? Or that persona one? Or the FPS thread?

At least you'd have more ground to stand on there.

>>4276525
yeah, same here.... but I just cant hold myself down, same with me watching playthrough videos without knowing moons.

Look at the shit you guys started.

I don't care if you wasn't you guys; this ALWAYS happens when you guys make an JRPG thread.

>>4275916
Stop spamming and harassing www. anon
talk
.com

>>4276483
I still have no idea how Dive Therapy was supposed to work. Did the things they said actually matter or was it all a matter of guesswork? I just trial-and-errored my way through the whole lot of it.

>>4276427
>I bet that if the AT games were both available on PC and easy to pirate, translated by some obscure group/company, /p/'s relation to them would be entirely different
Feels like /jp/ in a nutshell.

>>4276571
>>4276573
Does not belong here.

>>4276558
Well, yeah.
Nothing vital mind you, but the games doesn't really explain Reyvateils, Cosmosphere or the Towers themselves.
Also the events on ATII are a direct consequence of SUSPEND in the first games.
Also Mule.

>>4276558
Not much, AT2 was my first too. There are some small references here and there to AT1, but nothing too major.

[You can now dive into Luca]

This _does_ sound inappropriate...

>>4276571
I think it did actually have some logic to it, but the translation screwed it up.

>>4276558

You miss out on a lot of the mir story, but that's about it.

AT1 is pretty shit anyway, a crappy system and mostly boring girls(except Misha).

>>4276588
Auricas better. Shurelia is the worst one tough, good thing Tilia seems pretty good for origin. Still havent met het whee I'm watching that video tough.

>>4276516
True words. I had been saving my crystals because I misunderstood how they worked, then suddenly brought everyone from level 20 to 47. Now they have more hp and defense than my vanguards.
I wish I could have Jakuri tank in her mecha and let Luca and cloche lez out in the back.

You sure are intent on keeping these threads on the front page considering you dislike them so much. You're such an attention whoring faggot that it's pretty laughable.

Of course, you probably wanted me to say that.

I don't mind AT threads, as long as they're condensed and we don't start seeing stupid shit like just about all the Touhou threads.

>>4276587
Yeah, the translation is awful for it but you can see the underlying sense to it. I enjoy it for how amusing the conversations are.

>>4276571
There are two kind of problem with IPDs.
First is the IPDs disease that is like a fever and randomly hits them, this is the result of the damage Infel Phira sustained against Raki.
Second, much more dangerous, are the IPDs outbreaks.
Because IPDs, unlike normal Reyvateils, are all connected, they pollute each other with dark emotions like depression, rage, etc.
When an IPDs get contaminated too much by these emotions she goes insane, also this is virulent and infects other IPDs as well.
Dive Therapy consists on diving in the infected IPDs and clear their mind of those negative emotions thus recovering their sanity.

>>4276631
"You kinda smeared it..."

Were they drunk or something?

>>4276558
Nothing important.

>>4276608
These scans have always annoyed me. The colours are way off; Cloche doesn't wear purple and Luca's hair isn't purple either, they're blue in both cases. It's not that the hue is simply wrong; it's like whoever scanned it just fucked about with everything.

I have the data book, but scanning it would be a pain.

>>4276656
Go away.

>>4276651
I'm pretty sure it's a literally translated japanese idiom, like "it can't be helped" or "we'll have to use 'that,'" which is what a lot of the problems with ATII's script boil down to. It sounds like they're trying to say that you made a mess of what they were saying, by misinterpreting what they said or saying something unexpected, but I guess we'd need a /jp/ speaker to tell us what was going on.

God I fucking love this game's backgrounds.

>>4276662
If you do make the sacrifice some day and scan the book for us, please don't cut out the text.

>>4276687
same here, there's a lot of beatifulll places

>>4276688
If I ever do, I'd make sure to scan everything - even the cards. I think my only option would be getting a book scanner.

There's a really nice illustration of Metafalss in there. I just wish it took up the entire page.

>>4276656
They bug me too because they're grainy and awful, but I don't think any other scan exists.

>>4276687
>>4276721
In my opinion the one greatest improvement for the series in its move to the PS3 was the in game art. On an HDTV the maps and towns look an order of magnitude more crisp and detailed than its predecessors in the previous games.