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Discussion concerning Higurashi, Ciconia, Umineko, Rose Guns Days, Higanbana, TRianThology, and all other 07th Expansion works.

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Previous thread:>>42565929

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Mei is the most intellectually stimulating 07 work in the last five years

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>>42635905
cute ashi.. you're lucky. kanon chad..

>> No.42636376

>>42636245
it's very relieving

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Next time backlink to the previous thread, schizo-chan
>>42608563

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>>42636983
not linking these shithole chain of threads, dickhead-chan

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>>42637021
I just did

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>>42637036
You're embodiment of evil

>> No.42637344

>>42635905
I know this is a boy but why is this giving me a boner!? Sniff and lick kanon feet...

>> No.42637384

Tenkaichi 3 but with it's Higurashi

>> No.42637518

>>42635905
Why he has a breast bump?

>> No.42637616

>>42635905
Sniff

>> No.42637729

What are your thoughts on this suggestion >>42637696?

https://strawpoll.com/polls/mpnbookOYg5

>> No.42637828

when is ciconia 2 coming out

>> No.42637834

when you commission ciconia feet to yuzu gin

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>>42637729

>> No.42637875

>>42637828
Anon, I'm so sorry...

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What should the two of them talk about?

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>>42637729
>>42637869
>>42637922
Stop spamming, tyrant.

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Daliy reminder the old DEEN art confirmed they raped Rena at her previous school.
Also I wish Ryukishi had had the balls to make Higurashi an Eroge- same story, but added sex scenes similarly to what Fate Stay Night was.
He was lewd enough to give us a goddamn uncensored cunny Satoko sprite, but didn't commit to actual sex scenes that could be easily written at multiple points of the story.

>> No.42637953

>>42637938
I'm improving this thread. What else do we have to offer at this point. Meaningless spam and recycled conversations and arguments? It's purgatory. At least I'm adding something interesting while you just post pics of Rika you get off Pixiv.

>> No.42638039

>>42635905
Rubbing my pecker on Kanon feet...

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>>42637922
Exterminating youkai
Best way of driving their monster skulls into the pavement
Most inexpensive way of total youkai extermination
Stuff like that

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Hohh?

>> No.42638196

>>42637940
Rena became an adult!

>> No.42638209

>>42638165
https://voca.ro/1hTweeyGdyX3

Krauss being an abusive husband!

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>>42638209
Wow, what a jerk, if I was your husband I would never hit you, babe. Is it alright if I call you babe?

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....

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finally stopped being lazy long enough to get a natsuhi lora done, now i've just got to upload em somewhere and then we shall have unlimited aunt content

>> No.42638248

>>42638243
Erm, nobody cares about used goods like the aunts.

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>>42638248
hush you, i'll get around to making an erika lora for you to cry and piss yourself over some other time

>> No.42638264

>>42638261
Erm, nobody cares about used goods like Erika either, loser.

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Rosa>Natsuhi>Kyrie>Eva

>> No.42638287

Is Jessica used good?

>> No.42638292

>>42638275
Rosa definitely is the character with the most experience at tugging on the peckers of strangers.

>> No.42638303

>>42638287
No, but she dresses like a slut with that mini-skirt. Grrrr, someone should correct that brat's behavior! She's just asking for it!!!

>> No.42638328

>>42638303
Calm down, Gohda.

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>>42635905
i reject this. flat kanon only

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>>42638261
are you planning on making a kanon lora too?

>> No.42638479

>>42638476
i probaby will, just don't expect it for a while since i'm a lazy fuck

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>>42638479
neat, looking forward to it

>> No.42638601

Patiently waiting for Mei leaks anon.

>> No.42638616

>>42638601
Not the datamine anon, but there's no update for now. We probably only will get the update right before the first collab banner goes up.

>> No.42638736

I'm the sex anon, I have sex with all the WTC babes.

>> No.42638774

>>42638616
>We probably only will get the update right before the first collab banner goes up.
I wouldn't get your hopes up.
Collabs are usually paired with an application update, so I'll likely be at work by the time the update is released.

>> No.42638776

I am the sex anon sex anon. I sex sex anons.

>> No.42638817

>>42638774
Damn, I'm anticipating this collab unironically. SD has always been a strange guilty pleasure + love hate relationship for me.

>> No.42638828

>>42638776
Add me on facebook

>> No.42638863

>>42635745
Why does Satoko say "Bika"?

>> No.42638874

>>42638817
Why make it a guilty pleasure?
School Days really isn't a bad VN, and it manages to be pretty memorable, on top of clearly being a fairly high-budget title, what with it being fully animated.
Sure, its characters are all pretty much shitheads, but a story about bad people isn't bad itself because of it, and it's pretty fun watching all these terrible people destroy themselves through their own actions.

>> No.42638987

>>42638874
Honestly, you're right, but as with anything people love to shit on, you see it enough and you just get subconsciously conditioned to view it in a similar lens, despite taking a liking to it.

>> No.42639086

Guys... I finished Higurashi... and all I have to say is that Takano did nothing wrong

>> No.42639115

>>42638469
Ask AI to make her flat.

>> No.42639359

The absolute state of modern WTC, nothing but yuribait, Vtubers and Gacha. What a disgrace, Ryukishi should've just retired after Umineko. Creating nothing is a hell of a lot better then creating absolute garbage that actively ruins your previous works, what a joke.

>> No.42639370

>>42639359
Stop complaining and piss off shitokeifag!

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Rika is cute don't you agree?

>> No.42639420

>>42639381
no

>> No.42639516

>>42639381
Rika rims fat hairy men

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>>42639420
yes*
whooops misspelled!
>>42639516
kys

>> No.42639966

So let me get this straight: Rudolf and Kyrie were the murderers all along? All the mystery and intrigue lead to those two?

>> No.42640447

>>42639966
yep. isn't it great?

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Spoiler for the very end of Umineko (if anyone even cares anymore):

I went on a big adventure recently, checking out dozens of different playthroughs, mostly just watching certain key moments of the story or my favorite moments and so on and my overall impression is that Umineko is unironically too smart for many readers. Out of 20 or so different people I watched or talked to 1 (one) person understood all of the subtext and character motivations. 10 people failed to understand the majority of the story, while the other 9 only understood the superficial elements. With the exception of that one person none of them grasped the Rashomon effect at play there, instead only taking in the surface level reading of the unreliable narrator, never truly questioning if this wouldn't also apply to parts that aren't explicitly noted as such. To sum it up almost every single person I know that read Umineko stopped thinking after the second or third episode and either hyperfocused on the most superficial mystery elements (not understanding that the murders aren't the only mystery here) or started shipping characters or other emotionally empty nonsense. Speaking of emotions, about half of them had absolutely zero empathy for characters like Rosa or Kinzo even after finishing the story while being extremely lenient in that regard when it comes to "Beatrice", showing once again that they didn't understand how they got emotionally manipulated on purpose to illustrate a bigger point that Ryukishi was trying to make. Can you guys recommend any playthroughs that are not done by either stoic midwits or hysterical women?

>> No.42640807

>>42639966
If you have a very small brain and don't understand that 90% of Umineko has nothing to do with who the actual culprit is then yeah, maybe. But even then it's still up to debate, since I don't consider the manga canon.

>> No.42641351

>>42637828
tomorrow

>> No.42641414

>>42641351
whoa!

>> No.42641907

Just watched the first Higurashi live action with my parents instead of Zatch Bell.
I'd say it was a pleasant surprise. The movie looked better on a TV than on my phone, and by that, I mean that on a smaller screen it was easier to spot all the flaws and how fake it looks but once the screen is bigger you can take it better (same principle applies to movie theaters, Marvel effects that don't make you bat an eye there will look fake on a smaller screen, don't ask me why)

If the movie was guilty of anything, it was mostly of being boring at times. Long silences, almost no use of background music (when they DID use music suddenly the scenes were more bearable, japanese are very guilty of going full silence even in anime OVAs and it's just awkward to my western sensibilities, that or the acting wasn't good enough to carry those silences).
But hey, I'd say it was a good investment of my time this Saturday night.
This could have been one of those random horror / mystery movies I watched as a kid and now I'd remember it as part of my childhood like Martyrs, The Ring or The Hills Have Eyes. It's not really offensive.
It helps that they didn't try to have bright yellow / green / orange / purple hair, so it's just a normal japanese movie, people wouldn't know it comes from an anime.

>> No.42641939

>>42641907
But yeah, had they filmed it LIKE A REAL MOVIE (I don't know why the fuck they used a dorama / super sentai style camera), this would have been a cult movie you see recommended on the internet like Ringu, Battle Royale and Ju-On.
Onikakushi's plot is STRONG, and horror movies don't need to explain shit so the ending works with Keiichi dying as he sees the shadow of a horned demon.
The structure of an amazing movie is here, but the low budget prevents it from having a big impact. No, even with the crappy actors, THE FUCKING CAMERA, THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE FILMED IT LIKE I'M WATCHING KAMEN RIDER.
Change that and suddenly this becomes much less off-putting. But anyway, I liked it.



Also there's a nipple, very quick, but that's the most porn we've gotten from a Higurashi adaptation since the nude Satoko sprite.

>> No.42642410

>>42640789
Make your own, post it on Reddit and enjoy the rage.

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AI and deepfake technology is going to make the world a Ryukishian dystopia where truth and identity are constantly in flux. The internet, atomization of the community and propaganda from corrupt governments limits our authentic face to face communication thus it will be very difficult to reach the capital T truth of things.

>> No.42642451

Rika but she's trapped in Silent Hill

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>>42636983
>>42637036
>>42637065
Hanekawaface

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>>42642482
no it's a rika face from this pppppppoint look at my picrelated it's rika!

>> No.42642536

is ciconia 2 out yet

>> No.42642556

>>42642536
Yes, i have it, but i will have to disappoint you. Ryu flipped the scripted and changed the character design, it's not as colorful as it used be.. it's dark just like higuashi and umineko.

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I just cheesed the Soul of Cinders, not sure how I feel about it. After failing countless times to beat him with my MULTIPLE melee builds, I just went naked to be under 30% and started running like a bitch shooting Dorhy's Gnawing at him until he died.
I did have to get into melee for a bit and shave off like 30% of his HP bar, but still.
Well, I didn't level my Faith for nothing. Shooting miracles ended up letting me kill the final boss of the game.
This must be how mages feel when they go through the game killing bosses from afar with Soul Spears lol I don't feel like this counts as 'beating' the boss.
But this is probably one of the very few bosses in which such a playstyle would work, since he plays like a human with stamina-pauses and the area is massive.
Most other bosses are big and hyper aggressive so you can't get comfortable flinging spells at them.



>>42642536
Yes but only in the japanese Playstation Store, same as the umineko fighting game.

>> No.42642645

>>42642607
>>42641907
>>42641939
no one cares autistic psychopath spam

>> No.42642653

>>42642607
Is DaS3 good batora?

>> No.42642661

>>42639370
Kill yourself otakufat!

It sounds fucking silly, right anon?

>> No.42642662

stop acting like a chuuni fucker. God i hate underage snowflakes so much

>> No.42642667

>>42639359
Soon anon, soon...

>> No.42642671

>>42642661
what are you doing in here then? Stockholm syndrome that much?

>> No.42642674

>>42642667
Stop replying to yourself. So fucking obsessed.

>> No.42642678

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koe3PZmTeUs
dai and Beako play loopers for an hour

>> No.42642681

>>42642674
Look who's actually posting with himself...

>> No.42642683

>>42642607
>>42642667
>>42642661
get help asap or do you want to find someone who can beat you up to death if you cant get help?

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>>42642653
Yeah I'd say so!
Levels are tight, the devs present you a situation as a 'puzzle' with enemies to kill or avoid, and getting past it can take you up to an hour... then you find out the next bonfire was nearly after that obstacle. Once you solve it, you get to 'save' and tackle the next challenge!
There's tons of bosses as well and they're of good quality.
Though it having so many references just makes me wanna go back and play 1, ihihi.
This game didn't fulfill my "lord of thunder" fantasy. You read that miracle I spammed to kill the final boss? Dorhys Gnawing? IT'S A SWARM OF BUGS.
Lightning spear is severely nerfed compared to previous games, so the best use of your faith is shooting bugs that bite the enemy until it bleeds, that's crazy. You only unlock a good thunder spear ONCE YOU KILL THE FINAL BOSS.
Though I keep calling him "final" I still have like 5 more to go, optional & DLC ones.

>>42642683
I just gave you my review on the Higurashi live action movie, FOR FREE. You should be thanking me.
I maintain, it's kinda boring and badly acted at times, but it gets the story across pretty well. Rena truly looks like a fucking schizo once you act it with real humans, her 'cutesy' way of talking while digging up garbage..

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>>42642683
>if you cant get help?

And here we have an anon asking himself about the poor decisions he has made in his life.

>> No.42642735

>>42640807
Isn't that the issue though? Why even bother creating a murder mystery if it largely gets sidelined and ignored? It's very unsatisfying and insulting that no concrete answers are given. When answers are finally given, they're suddenly horrible and readers denounce it as non-canon and ignore that the author himself called it canon, instead searching for other possibilities.

>> No.42642749

>new form of shitposting for the mentally deranged
Really fucking makes you think

>> No.42642758

>>42642653
if you're replying to yourself you need help
if you're a third party and enabling his behavior you need help
dial here 999-99901-get fucking real

>> No.42642772

i hope get beaten too death by a fucking group of house gangsters who invade homes.

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>>42642758
It's a simple question anon

>> No.42642785

>>42642774
no one fucking asks these questions in here you roach stop fucking around here

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>>42642785
o-ok bye

>> No.42642800
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>mion poster
>dead beato poster
but of course that's why he's a roach why wouldn't he?

>> No.42642814

>>42642774
The actual state of the WTC fanbase: The JPG

Comming soon

>> No.42642824

>>42642814
It seems to me it's a (you) only problem. Home invasioner.

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>>42642800
I am now shirakawa-go poster because I posted a picture of it

>> No.42642836

>>42642824
>Home invasioner.

Is there some misinformation meta realistic shit that I have not heard?

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>>42642836
oh shit, omega knows!

>> No.42642844

>>42642833
Let me guess you were there with your gaypals right?
>unironically relying on friends to accompany his lame journey life
I don't care, enjoy happy life. Oblivious little life of yours.

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>>42642833
Here look, amazing place

>> No.42642858

>>42642845
It sure is beautiful, guy! btw i'm >>42642844 i taking it back what i just said

>> No.42642861

>>42642824
You missed the "thank you for making anime real" part to make it more obvious...

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School Days collab event is called "Years of Infidelity"

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>>42643498

>> No.42643697

>>42642833
A perfect place for a DAM

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The Furude Rika-chan

>> No.42644970

More like: "with meds it cannot be seen"

>> No.42645276

>>42642735
>Why even bother creating a murder mystery if it largely gets sidelined and ignored?
...Have you even read Umineko?

>> No.42645324

>>42638275
We know, Battler.

>> No.42645356

>>42645276
Are you saying the story doesn't largely ignore the how to focus on the why? Ryukishi07 was so focused on the why that he forgot to actually make even a passable murder mystery, as proven by readers that don't accept the manga as canon because the answers are atrocious.

>> No.42645359

>>42638275
Switch Kyrie and Eva and it's perfect.

>> No.42645380

>>42645356
>as proven by readers that don't accept the manga as canon because the answers are atrocious.
The manga isn't accepted as being canon because it misses the point of Umineko's subtext by giving (supposedly) clear-cut answers. It's like watching Rashomon and complaining that the majority of the story is "pointless" since there's a mundane "answer" to it all. It's genuinely intellectually offensive.

>> No.42645468

>>42645380
I don't think it really matters what fans think. If Ryukishi says it's canon then it is. Why can't you accept that? It obviously needed to be added because the answer's derived from Umineko's subtext was simply inadequate. Will you argue that those reader were too stupid to understand?
>It's genuinely intellectually offensive
That's what I'd can Ryukishi's work. The why doesn't matter when the how is so appalling; it's so unbelievably contrived that it becomes offensive.

>> No.42645486

>>42645468
>I don't think it really matters what fans think. If Ryukishi says it's canon then it is. Why can't you accept that?
Death of the author. Ryukishi is famous for greenlighting literally anything, he doesn't care about secondary material at all.
>It obviously needed to be added because the answer's derived from Umineko's subtext was simply inadequate. Will you argue that those reader were too stupid to understand?
Yes I will. The story isn't exactly subtle about it and if you still don't get it even after the whole ending where it's almost literally spelled out then I don't know what to tell you, other than that you're illiterate.

>> No.42645491

>>42645356
The author didn't say there are clear answers. It's the fanbase who assumed that they are seeing clear canon answers which isn't true because several scenes deny an opened catbox. The famous one is Tohya reading Confession of the Golden Witch before writing Banquet.

>> No.42645554

>>42645486
>Ryukishi is famous for greenlighting literally anything, he doesn't care about secondary material at all
That's fine but he shouldn't be calling it and the answers contained within canon then, should he? Why greenlight something that tarnishes your original work? Regardless, he called it canon and you fail to accept the answers given because it's too explicit in giving answers.
>The story isn't exactly subtle about it and if you still don't get it even after ... it's almost literally spelled out
What do you claim to be the answers then? Would you call those that believe in alternate theories illiterate? Is the likes of Erikantrice who is shilling his theory around here an illiterate for simply having a different interpretation of things?

>>42645491
Who are you to deny what is canon, though? There's obviously issues with the canon answers but we just have to accept it for what it is. If you don't like the official answers we're given then I'd strongly suggest to stop reading Ryukishi's work.

>> No.42645602

This the most /07/th thread in the world

>> No.42645629

the main difference between rashomon and umineko is that rashomon is actually good

>> No.42645699

>>42643498
>>42643507
Idk what this gay shit is. I want something actually cool like a Mahsoul x WTC collab. I'd unironically whale for that, but maybe WTC isn't popular enough for that.

>> No.42645712

>>42645554
>If you don't like the official answers we're given then I'd strongly suggest to stop reading Ryukishi's work.
You don't like my claim? It's in the manga, dude. Tohya should've know about Yasu before reading Confession of the Golden Witch. Are you from reddit?

>> No.42645764

>>42645712
>You don't like my claim?
What are you talking about? I didn't give an opinion on whether or not I liked your claim.

>> No.42645867

>>42645764
If you don't like the official answer then don't bother me.

>> No.42646292

You know I like school days because I'm literally Kotonoha, but I much preferred a Fate Grand Order collab

>> No.42646308

>>42646292
Is the gacha even doing well?

>> No.42646350

>>42646292
Fate doesn't do gacha collabs anymore exactly because Grand Order became so big. So they see gacha collabs as giving away their own value.

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>>42635745
>ooga booga Shannon desu
>Kanon desu
god I hate Western "artists"

>> No.42646444

>>42646404
unga bunga

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>>42646404
ugh the child rapist hands of a rat.. horrible creautes.

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>>42643498
>>42643507

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Rika's fragrant feet.

>> No.42647067

Ange has nice tits.

>> No.42647567

>>42645554
>Why greenlight something that tarnishes your original work?
Because he makes a lot of money with that.
>What do you claim to be the answers then? Would you call those that believe in alternate theories illiterate?
The point was that the manga doesn't allow further theorizing, that's why it's shit.

>> No.42647839

>>42645554
>>42645491
Oh look, the real cause of why the WTC is in decline, that it lacks well-structured lore.

Oh wait sorry, the author only cares about shitty shock value, and mystery this, mystery that...

>> No.42647850

>>42647839
I forgot to add the shitty fanservice that Gou/Sotsu added, btw.

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Should I read someutsushi after tatarigoroshi and alternate between main story and advanced story or wait until I finish the main story arcs and then read all the advanced story chapters in one go?

>> No.42647968

>>42647890
Someutsushi is basically unrelated to the main plot and cast, but it gives an insight into the impact of the Great Hinamizawa Disaster on people outside of Hinamizawa. If that sounds interesting check it, otherwise skip or leave it for later.

Some characters from the main story join in with Kageboushi.

>> No.42648084

>>42645491
>the author
Why do your refer to him that way?

>> No.42648171

>>42647890
finish the main story before anything else

>> No.42648208

>>42646404
Troonsu if "she" had accurate facial features

>> No.42648517

is the Ciconia short story out yet?

>> No.42648706

>>42648517
Yep. Here is a link. It's really just a comedic one shot though.

https://mega.nz/file/p0sFyCYZ#BaXrZIiPawHxREgeUhy5HWLDF7tyE6tasynlFs7n5Cs

>> No.42648736

>>42648706
why is lingji allowed to talk

>> No.42648764

>>42648706
translator bros?

>> No.42649137

>>42648084
Ok, game scenario writer.

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Did Keiichi fap at any point during the original Visual Novel? If so, who was he thinking about?
It's those little details that would make the story much richer

>> No.42649847

is umineko project the best version of umineko?

>> No.42649934

>>42646853
>>42643507
>>42643498
Wtf is this cringe

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>>42649934
>N-nooooo, stop posting off topic garbage!
>..
>What do you mean there's an official Higurashi x School Days collab?
DAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

SOON, DUELINKS CHADS

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>>>/w/2240142

If you guys have cool wallpapers to post there I'd be happy, thank you

>> No.42650325

>>42649595
read subahibi for richness

>> No.42650499

>>42647890
Thoughts on Tatargoroshi?

>> No.42650514

>>42649847
Yes, it's much more polished and has more QOL features them 07th project. Just make sure to install the witch hunt patch to get best script.

>> No.42650687

>>42650005
stop being cancer anytime now, newshitter nunce

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>> No.42650734

>>>/a/248884614
Bros.. is that true?

>> No.42650740

>>42650723
Rosa and Lambda are pure sex here.

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Good morning! I love Satoko.

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>>42650734
It's all tiresome.

>> No.42650827

>>42650741
Good Morning! Let's love Satoko together!

>> No.42650840

>>42650827
>jk
fake newshit annoying fan and a wanker.

>> No.42650872

>>42650840
Huh?

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>>42650872
>i hate this jk but i love this jk
PLUS
>boobbs

>> No.42650931

>>42650880
Anon.... I never mentioned hating Rika?

>> No.42650944

>>42650931
It's just a presumption

>> No.42650957

>>42650741
ogod Satoko

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>>42650957

>> No.42650973

>>42650957
stop replying to a slut reply to rika pics you fucking newfag
and what the fuck is "ogod" newfag slang for retardation?
>>42650969
fuck off already annoying fucker

>> No.42651090

>>42650973
So warosu'd or desuarchived ''ogod'' and it's barely used in here. carry on.

>> No.42651160

>>42649847
It has no NVL mode, so it's automatically shit.

>> No.42651265

>>42650944
Your presumption is wrong I'm hugging Rika right now.

>> No.42651473

Does Saku have a voice patch yet?

>> No.42651709

>>42650969
god I wish Satoko was real

>> No.42651938

God Rika is better and hotter

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will you ever kys yourselves

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>> No.42652415

>>42651709
Go hug your imouto.

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>>42652107
It's time for murder(me) again

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School Days event in Mei felt like it was trying to do multiple things at once. You have the Higurashi cast watching what's clearly a School Days live action drama and commenting on it, although no character names are mentioned. Then due to Mei's fragment hijinks the School Days girls end up in Hinamizawa. But they aren't actually recognized by the Higurashi characters. Kotonoha, Mion and Rena are possessed by Tsukuyami and almost kill Keiichi, the Mei girls and Tamura stop them, then story over. Also Setsuna is there freaking out since she apparently knew about Hinamizawa.

Mion's character story has her watching the end of the school Days anime as a drama with Shion and commenting on it, but with no character names like in the main event. Then she has a dream where she is a Sakakino high student. She was dating "*******" who ends up leaving her alone Christmas night after she had prepared a party. She calls him who tells her he was busy and couldn't make it, but she overhears ******'s voice calling *****-kun to have fun. She realizes what's happening and promises to erase her and everyone who stands in the way of her happiness. Screen goes red.

Mion tells Shion about this dream, who gets her to dismiss it as pure imagination, although in the end Shion questions what's real or not.

I love how short the skirt seems to be in these sprites.

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>>42652534
I love how Nao hates Makoto

>> No.42653726

>>42653073
I imagine his personality struck a little too close to home.

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dumping the newly released ciconia booklet.

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>>42653738

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>>42653748

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>>42653760

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>>42653773

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>>42653784

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>>42653794

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>>42653802

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>>42653808

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>>42653817

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>>42653828

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>>42653835
that's it.

>> No.42653988

>>42653073
She hates him now but he'll break her in just like the other girls until it comes back to bite him.

>> No.42654008

>>42653988
honestly hating makoto makes you more likely to end up fucking him than if you actually liked him somehow

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>>42653738
>sane costume
she is everything but sane

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>>42653828
imagine smell

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Higurashi had some great action scenes actually. I'd have loved a sequel with them as adults being badasses. Mion is a yakuza boss, Rena with her anime schizo speed, Keiichi being a badass martial artist trained by Akasaka, Rika developing her time-powers, and Satoko... well she's more of an intel and traps girl.

>>42650687
Somehow this was the only post that's managed to affect me, reducing the schizo rambling to a single line was powerful.

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New Mei stuff:
School Days event:
https://files.catbox.moe/cb7m0d.txt
Mion:
https://files.catbox.moe/cqi2lz.txt
Sekai:
https://files.catbox.moe/sy7w7s.txt

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>>42654657

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>>42654669

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>>42654682

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>>42654694

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>>42654708
Possible Keiichi card, I guess?

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>>42654682
>>42654694
>one is from right before a sex scene
>the other has pantiless sekai on top of mion looking at the camera like a threesome's about to happen
well this is probably the lewdest card set they've put out so far

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>>42654723

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>>42654733

>> No.42654756

>>42654657
Thanks, I was looking forward to this.

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>>42654746
>>42654732
I 'unno, they had some pretty lewd ones before.
They're definitely not holding back for this collab with a porn game, though.

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>>42654759
>>42654756
You're welcome.

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>>42654765
Not much in the way of new assets, other than some basic stuff for the 2.5th anniversary.

>> No.42654914

ange deserves rape

>> No.42654957

>>42654657

Sekai's character story is hilarious. Imagine if Satoko got a game over in her first loop and lost her powers there. That's basically Sekai here. I didn't think we'd see the Mei villains recruiting guest characters, although they apparently can't get to tag along for long for obvious reasons.

>> No.42655072

>>42654369
I would make K1 stick with his talent in Minagoroshi. Make him a smoothtalking word magician. Maybe even a lawyer or a politician. So you can have the battle involve more espionage or non combat elements.
Then bring Akasaka Miyuki in as a karate girl.

>> No.42655091

higurashi would have improved tremendously if ryukishi inserted eroge

>> No.42655142

would you rather sex eva or takano?

>> No.42655146

>>42655072
Yeah, that works. An anime like ace attorney with Keiichi doing political deals, traveling, maybe visiting another village which is in danger if being destroyed to build a dam and it reminds him of Hinamizawa so he decided to protect it.
Of course insert some mystery into it. But still give me a little scene of him kicking ass when a thug goes after him and suddenly dropping
>Good thing I practiced some karate just in case
lel people would clap

But yeah.. there was an unlimited number of ways a Higurashi sequel could have worked.
ANYTHING focusing on the main cast as adults would have been entertaining and Ryukishi is all about finding a way to disappoint us, so none of the latest entries are about them as grown ups.

Gousotsu / Meguri? Still looping in the 80s. The other manga I forgot the name of? The higus are dead and / or irrelevant, it's all about their new kids.
It's the worst possible outcome.
Just getting to see what adventures they've been up to as adults would be so nice but the dragonknight doesn't want us to have fun.

>> No.42655163

>>42655091
I've written massive posts in the past, but yes, it was possible. There's many points in the VN in which you could fit those scenes tastefully. Even during the horror part, they would add to it (Rena and Shion are eerily lewd when in L4+ stage, same with Keiichi's perception during Onikakushi, I could see a Saya no Utaesque h-scene)

>> No.42655169

>>42655163
where's the pastebin

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>>42654957
Sekai always seems to get a shit deal in any story past the original, often either made irrelevant, or villainized well beyond how she was written in the original School Days.

>> No.42655299

>>42655169
>69
I should have created one. No, more than one, I've had many... ramblings of the witch.

A quick recap.
During Onikakushi, the first 6 hours with no murders could have something when Rena or Mion are visiting K1's house, and those 'batsu games' with the club could lead to some spicy early CGs (still no H scene, just preparing us for what's to come later).
After that, we could get a couple more H-scenes at Keiichi's house when Rena visits, adding to his confusion about his relationship with them and the danger he feels.
Maybe something with Mion at school before the talk in which he screams to her and makes her cry. And finally, at the very end when he's at full L5 mode and hallucinates they're into some bondage stuff, binding him, riding him, and trying to kill him at the end with a syringe so that's when the h-scene ends, he breaks free and kills them.



Watanagashi is FULL of it, I shouldn't even tell you where. All those dates with Shion, the visits at Ange Morte, Mion timidly going to his house to give him lunch, something with K1 catching Tomitake and Takano in the woods / saiguden. More Shion stuff during the latest parts at the dungeon.

Tatarigoshi can show bath scenes and maybe go the full mile with the Teppei stuff.
We could also see Keiichi comforting Satoko at home. R07 had a lewd sprite for this chapter of all things, so it's not an impossible line to cross.
Throw in something about Rika in the shower or whatever for her fans, since I can't naturally fit her into any big scenes it has to be this way. Maybe a wardrobe malfunction during one of the punishment games giving you a spicy CG.

Nothing during Himatsubushi.

Meakashi has Shion x Satoshi flashback, Shion x Keiichi in the present, and her humiliating Satoko could be expanded.

Tsumihoroboshi has Rina and TONS of schizo Rena cuddling up to Keiichi, the only one who believes her.

Minagoroshi... maybe Rika x Keiichi? She really doesn't fit this kind of thing, maybe a solo scene at home when she's drunk having fun by herself and Hanyuu.

Matsuribayashi is miracle timeline so whatever, give stuff for everyone.

>> No.42655356

>>42655299
And of course, if the novel had been conceived that way, completely new scenes could be added to make it possible such as the club having a fun day at the Okinomiya hot springs / water park / Rika inviting Keiichi to her house to explain to him everything and stuff happening (mimagoroshi actually had a scene like this at the end, but here it could happen at the start)

>> No.42655359

>>42655299
Teppei raping Satoko would ruin the entire VN and turn off a lot of people since
>NTR

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https://www.docdroid.net/vMzjMiR/erikantrice-ai-manifesto-pdf
NEW ERIKANTRICE MANIFESTO IS OUT

grammar and english fixed, + bonus part with Saku
read it

>> No.42655371

>>42655299
Rikakei confirmed! haha lol xd!

>> No.42655387

Higurashi works best as a NTR VN, Rena getting raped by her school bullies, Mion getting raped by the fat otaku in angel mort, Satoko getting raped by Teppei, Rika getting raped by the mountain dogs, Shion getting raped by the biker thugs.

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>>42655387
HOLY FUCKING SHIT

this is what happened to this thread without?

DON'T WORRY GUYS
I WILL SAVE RYUKISHI'S STORIES

AFTER CICONIA WILL BE OUT I WILL MADE CICONIA MANIFESTO

>> No.42655417

>>42655299
>We could also see Keiichi comforting Satoko at home
It could be extended by a day or two with sleepovers at the Maebara mansion. Rika gives her the thumbs up to stay a night or two with K1.

>> No.42655434

>>42655359
I have agree, I think we all believed she was getting abused and it just being implied was traumatizing enough, a quick fap is not worth making the story stupidly darker and having most people drop it by the 3rd chapter.
Also all the efforts and happiness we see later would have little to no value as we remember those images.

>>42655417
This however is fine. Like the discarded Shirou x Ilya route in fsn.

>>42655387
These all fit storywise but then the VN would have never gotten anime adaptations

>> No.42655463

wtc only needed one lewd scene and it was ange being raped by male friends of her bullies they invited over

>> No.42655469

>>42655365
I think it's funny that Erika got some fingerprints and claimed they belong to a specific person...who dissapeared.

Ryukishi about Van Dine 12:
>"I actually inserted that Red to test whether a player had understood the true culprit in the fullest sense. People who did not understand would clearly be misled."

I clearly see a parable to Knox's 6th.

Also
>Pierce
What a name.

>> No.42655483

>>42655463
wouldn't be possible in st. lucia's. read the vn.

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>>42655469
>Ryukishi about Van Dine 12:
normal about Kanon being the headmaster but still deny Genji.

>I think it's funny that Erika got some fingerprints and claimed they belong to a specific person...who dissapeared.
i forgot this detail can you remember me when happened
>>42655463
fake Only Natsuhi and Jessica were raped

>> No.42655502

>>42655483
higurashis barbed st lucia wasn't the exact freeze framed lucia of umineko

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>>42655483
with Rika as bully everything is possible

>> No.42655509

ryukishi implied miyao and lingji fucked

>> No.42655513

takano a bit erotic desu

>> No.42655516

>>42655509
Clearly Lingji faked her death

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ITALIANON HERE
who is the detective in ciconia?

Jayden or Miyao?
i can't reread it since Ryu decided to rewrite all of it but i still want to solve it as a mystery where Knox and Van Dine are valide.

if we consider virtual reality as meta is possible.

STILL WHO IS MY OBJECTIVE POV?

>> No.42655532

WTC-verse vs. JJBAverse.

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>>42655527
>>42655503
>>42655463
>>42655532
why you're trying to kill a non (you)r thread again, satokeinigger?

>> No.42655552

>>42655493
Erika used fingerprints to prove Genji never left the mansion in the 5th game.

>> No.42655562

>>42655552
thanks anon really forced proof to cover that she knew that from the start.

>> No.42655565

>>42655503
>>42655493
>>42655552
>>42655562
hm can you already get deleted for eternity and stop replying to yourself, shitokei/fb/sperg tard?

>> No.42655579

>>42654657
THANK YOU SO MUCH ANON, GENUINELY BEEN WAITING FOR THIS ONE

>> No.42655590

>>42655550
don't see what that has to do with a hypothetical wtc and jjba crossover but OK

>> No.42655619

>>42655387
>Rena
Would be fine that way, flashback of her getting raped in Ibaraki
>Mion
There's a perfect opportunity for her to get drunk and get fucked by old men, no need for the fat otaku to do anything
>Satoko
Let's be realistic and make it just a scene of him taking a bath with Satoko which in her mind is no less fucked up
>Rika
Right at the end of Minagoroshi with the mountain dogs for sure
>Shion
Let's make it a bit fucked up and have Satoshi mistakenly drill Mion and Rena knowing every detail about it

>> No.42655624

>>42654669
So Mion gets paired with Sekai and Rena paired with Kotonoha, this means that K1 only uses Mion as "practise" before seducing Rena, now in my personal opinion Setsuna should be paired with Rika and in that scenario, Rika should seduce K1 to get him to stop having sex with other girls.

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i don't understand stand how any of that canon?

>> No.42655686

>>42655624
This is exactly the reason why I said that Mion would absolutely never. But as another anon mentioned, thinking far too hard about it. But thinking about it is also fun so I can't really stop, that being said though.. If the Higurashi crew tried to go the way of School Days, it immediately wouldn't even go down that route because if Mion is supposed to equal to Sekai, Mion would not kiss him before he went off to his date with Rena, alongside not offering practice and what not because she knows far better than to do any of that I surely presume.

Let's say she doesn't though, the moment Rena finds out Keiichi's fucking around with Mion behind her back though, she likely would say fuck him and or also fuck her (Mion) before just deciding they're terrible and not actually daring to attempt to pursue Keiichi anymore.

>> No.42655732

>>42654732
>the other has pantiless sekai on top of mion looking at the camera like a threesome's about to happen
The question is with who? Makoto or K1?

>> No.42655740

>>42655732
sekai looks more excited than mion
make of that what you will

>> No.42655755

>>42654723
I guess he just will be part of Rena's special.

>> No.42655774

>>42655740
>It's another episode of Makoto seducing a girl without much effort
Well alright then.

>> No.42655809

>>42655755
Maybe, but there's a decent chance he'll get a card in lieu of someone dressing up as Setsuna, since putting Keiichi in Makoto's role is probably much more interesting than trying to do anything with Setsuna, who doesn't have an easily exploitable gimmick, unless they really want to go make Rika pregnant or something.

>> No.42655846

>>42655809
I think the second banner will just be Rena, Kotonoha and Setsuna, not third Higurashi character or a separate banner for Setsuna/Some Higurashi character.

>> No.42655853

>>42655809
>setsuna fucks off to paris
>rika fucks off the second she can
i suppose it kinda matches
mei probably would've made satoko makoto instead somehow in that case though

>> No.42655896

>>42655846
I'm pretty sure most collabs go with six characters total, though, with three from the collab side, and three from Higurashi.
Ikki Tousen, Senran Kagura, and CLANNAD II all followed that pattern, at least.
It'd be weird for them to suddenly limit themselves to five characters for this one.

>> No.42655905

>>42655532
Keiichi beats up jotaro no diff

>> No.42655921

>>42655619
>>42655387
Good posts
>>42655365
>>42655400
>>42655493
>>42655503
>>42655527
Very bad posts

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42655922

Now that Erikantrice manifesto is completed

did you accepted the real solution of Umineko?
your only point left is is all an illusion LOL
>>42655921
cringe anon

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cunt posters

>> No.42655941
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Truth posters

>> No.42655949

>>42655662
Eww, bloody piss in newspaper. Typical for the buttmonkey Rika.

>> No.42655958

>>42655941
>>42655949
stop samefagging and trying to kill this thread fast, shitokei obvious

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>>42655958
Rika is the culprit

>> No.42655969

>>42655966
Fuck off already psychopath

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>>42655969
Rika and Ooishi commited all the crimes of Hinamizawa

>> No.42655990

>>42655958
Take pickle-Rika and put it in your a$$hole.

>> No.42655994 [DELETED] 

new thread migrate! >>42655991
>>42655991
>>42655991

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>>42655973
>>42655966
>>42655990
You're psychotic, every fucking 200+ post count. not today though
that's what you get. psyhotic shitokoloser

>> No.42656012

>>42655994
>>42656002
New thread up and this one was made first!
>>42655891
>>42655891
>>42655891

>> No.42656017

>>42656012
Based!
>>42655994
Cringe.

>> No.42656028

>>42656002
Great, turn her into pickle-Rika and stick her in your a$$. It's the funniest shit you'll feel.

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>>42656028

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>>42656012
>>42656017
>>42656028
blablabla you autistic samefagging psychopath

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>>42655965
>>42656009
>>42655891
he really has to reply to himself that way?..
>>42656036
he does it in every fucking non of his 200 count thread s

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>>42656002
YOU RE CRINGE
your threads are booring

>> No.42656072 [DELETED] 

>>42656012
how the fuck did you made it first? why you're so desperate gosh.. mod scripted thread. i checked and there wasn't any thread
>>42656066
you're sperg and italianon and fbfag, samefagging mother of a whore

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it was too obvious. the other rikafag was right

>> No.42656092 [DELETED] 

>>42656044
>it's good because it's a thread based of a picture he likes
so fucking cringe. come back rikafags and rek him already

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>>42655966
I have to agree with every single thing in this image
what an evil witch

>> No.42656100 [DELETED] 

>>42656028
>>42655990
say why you're disgusting. oh i see you're projecting your disgusting fetishes onto others.. disgusting freak
>>42656096
stop replying to your shitokonigger.

>> No.42656105 [DELETED] 

>>42656096
kill yourself maniac.

>> No.42656110 [DELETED] 

and stop abusing your shitty vpn or mod tool ips just to make your shit thread look more crowded

>> No.42656133

Why is rikababy so pathetic?

>> No.42656136 [DELETED] 

>checked to see if there was already a new made thread by him
>there wasn't
>took this opportunity to make >>42655991 to piss off shitokei samefagging personalityfag
>then >>42656012 appears and it was made 22 minutes before
How the fuck?

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>>42656133
why i never see you post shitoko if you love her so much for now i see you post rika and you love rika :) and jk shitoko posts in here doesn't count because it wasn't posted bt you ;)))

>> No.42656146

>>42656096
based
>>42656072
>>42656100
>>42656105
cringe anon
you must never insult someone mother

>> No.42656153

>>42653808
Ciconia confirmed for AI story

>> No.42656155

>>42656100
Salty tears about pickle-Rika for our godess Satoko!

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>>42656146
>>42656155
son of a whore.
son of a manslut.
Autistic samefag.

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>he was waiting for this thread to hit 200 count post just to do this circus all over again
ugh it's all tiresome

>> No.42656219

>>42656159
Thank you for your concession and salty tears!

>> No.42656224

>>42656159
souless
this is Rika

>> No.42656260

>>42656224
Why is Rika baby spamming new thread?

>> No.42656262 [DELETED] 

>>42656224
???
>>42656219
>random babble

is that all satokofags(one guy)

>> No.42656273 [DELETED] 

>>42656260
now you reply to your and make it look like as if there is a circle of rikafag haters who always hated him just like always? pragmatic idiot. And not, i am not alone.

>> No.42656290

>>42656262
>>42656273
Stop spamming.

>> No.42656306 [DELETED] 

>>42656290
You already spammed this thread, so it's time to bite the dust, nigger. And not im not alone, pathetic loster.

>> No.42656307

>>42656167
who you are speaking?
stop being delusional

>> No.42656332 [DELETED] 

>>42656307
>>42656290
And you're a stupid discount spammer who doesn't post pics.

>> No.42656421

>>42656332
>>42656307
>>42656306
Get aids and die

>> No.42656427

>>42655686
In the event, Mion sees in an oddly realistic dream a scenario where she's dating Keiichi but he has been often leaving her alone lately. He always says he's sorry afterwards, but it keeps happening.

She prepares a Christmas date for him, but then he outright rejects going with it and is actually rude to her for once, then she overhears Rena on the phone calling him from behind to come to her. She immediately decides to kill them.

The next day, when she wakes up back in reality and remembers that scenario as an oddly realistic dream, she says unlike the characters in the drama if she went through something like that she'd either just never talk with Keiichi again, or outright confront and attack him if she somehow ended up in the Christmas date scenario she dreamed about.

>> No.42656453

>>42656421
Aids is too good for him

>> No.42656461

>>42656332
>>42656421
i am not a shaknontrice fans like you
i fuck cute tomboys so i can't get AIDS

>> No.42656466 [DELETED] 

>>42656453
get a rope please.
sperg and italianon are the same thing.

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LMAO THEY DELETED IT!

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>>42656676
Finally good ""mod"" listened!

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Stop spamming and discuss about How Erika saw Kanon and Shannon together

>> No.42656711

>>42656696
She didn't.

>> No.42656715

>>42656696
Kanon is Erika

>> No.42656716 [DELETED] 

>>42635745
they deleted it and he makes a new one right after it. wtf. he's pissed off..

>> No.42656718

>>42656696
Drunk erika, seeing double

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>>42656711
the Objective view of the detective said that all people on the island are in the same room
>>42656715
this

>> No.42656723

>>42656461
Based

>> No.42656731

>>42656721
>the Objective view of the detective said that all people on the island are in the same room
That doesn't disprove what I said.

>> No.42656732

I think of a cute scenario of switched ages and heights. K1 is smaller and Satoko is bigger! And K1 pets Satoko. And in return : ara ara

>> No.42656743

>>42656731
this proof that Erika saw Kanon and Shannon in the same room.

>> No.42656746 [DELETED] 

>>42656694
All spammed Rika pics were deleted.

>> No.42656751

>>42656743
How?

>> No.42656756

>>42656751
she saw them together a bunch of times

>> No.42656759 [DELETED] 

>>42656746
But your thread was deleted and you made a new one right after all who are you fooling idiot?
>>42655891 look

>> No.42656767

>>42656732
Satoko messing with K1 and making him cry

>> No.42656770

new thread migrate>>42656749
>>42656749
>>42656749

>> No.42656771

>>42656756
Provide proof.

>> No.42656773

>>42656751
"Erika" is Yasu, capiche?

>> No.42656787

>>42656773
Who are you?

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>>42656771
here

>> No.42656800

New thread up
>>42656686
>>42656686
>>42656686

>> No.42656807

>>42656789
Explain how it proves that Erika saw Shannon and Kanon together.

>> No.42656809

>>42656787
Who wants to know?

>> No.42656812

>>42656807
she saw and speak with both Kanon and Shannon.

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>>42656800
...again with the spamming ban evaders in that thread. Holy shit these people.

>> No.42656833

>>42656812
>she saw
How can you prove what she saw?
>speak with both Kanon and Shannon.
She only responded to one person in your picture.

>> No.42656857

>>42656833
>How can you prove what she saw?
the pics
>She only responded to one person in your picture.
1 line was said by Kanon and 1 by Shannon.

Erika can't hear lie

>> No.42656858

>>42656833
She asks Shannon and Kanon to close the door.

>> No.42656882

>>42656823
why cant you accept this thread mr.shitokei kun?>>42656770 and yes till shitokei threads deleted again..

>> No.42656883

>>42656823
He's mentally ill, mods just need to rangeban him and be done with it

>> No.42656884

>>42656857
>the pics
How do they prove it?
>1 line was said by Kanon and 1 by Shannon.
Erika only responded to one.

>>42656858
Show me a picture.

>> No.42656891

>>42656884
>How do they prove it?
because show what Erika see.
>Erika only responded to one.
she heard that lines
>respoded only to one
Because only Shannon exist and Kanon is inside her head

>> No.42656903

>>42656891
You haven't proved any of these three statements.

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>>42656891
>Because only Shannon exist and Kanon is inside her head

So, he standing beside Shannon would be a lie. I don't get how you think this helps i any way. Your explanation has the same issue as the canon answer.

Also, don't forget Last Note of the Golden Witch exists even if you want to ignore the manga.

>> No.42656937

>>42656696
there's an explanation for this in the work. it's not a very good one, but it's there.
technically, we only see this scene through battler's eyes, so only battler necessarily sees kanon and shannon both there. battler as is soon established has recently lost his reliable viewpoint privileges; hence, he can be tricked into "seeing" both servants present even though yadda yadda yadda. theoretically erika should only be seeing one of them present.
the problem comes in when you consider why erika doesn't seem to care about one of them not being present. the manga "answers" this by having her say she thought kanon was at the guesthouse preparing rooms; aside from this being info not given to the audience, this is something that should have an effect on observable reality, should erika go to the guesthouse and find her room has not been prepared (because kanon couldn't have been there because yadda yadda). the catbox is leaky.
incidentally this would be the reason she couldn't "see" whatever was left in the closet after kanon vanished; she abandoned her detective role so she could kill and lost her viewpoint with it.

>> No.42656938

>>42656903
Erika can't see lies , Erika is out objective POV in the story this is why everything we see with her present must be truth.

if you disagree that Shannon and Kanon sprite together do not mean Erika see them, you are deny the conecpt of detective

aka your point is Erika can see illusion.
>>42656911
>kanon
Erika see him in her head.
>but muh
Play sherlock holmes year 0 for a grapich proof
>asumo story
ASUMO CAN'T SOLVE THE EPIGRAPH
THE EPITAPH IS NOT AN ENIGMA BUT A REQUEST OF KINZO TO GENJI.

you can solve it only if you have Genji's help.

>> No.42656951

>>42656937
>technically, we only see this scene through battler's eyes, so only battler necessarily sees kanon and shannon both there
Kinzo's disappier when Erika turned towards Battler
this show Battler can't see illusion with Erika looking.
>why erika doesn't seem to care about one of them not being present.
because the manga can't explain it

>> No.42656958

>>42656938
Can you prove we see the story through Erika's eyes?

>> No.42656960

>>42656911
remind me, did last note say kanon wouldn't have come to the island if asumu was around to tongue shannon's ass, or did it just ignore him?

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>>42656937
>incidentally this would be the reason she couldn't "see" whatever was left in the closet after kanon vanished; she abandoned her detective role so she could kill and lost her viewpoint with it.
RED TRUTH KANON SAVE BATTLER

IF Erika found a body in the closed she win
the pic is Erika reaction after open the closed

PURE SHOCK
the closed was empy

>> No.42656980

>>42656958
red truth: Erika is the detective
by Lambda

>> No.42656985

>>42656884
>Show me a picture.
Cannot do it now. I am not Italianon. I think of three personalities (Shannon, Kanon, Erika). When Erika was asking both Shannon and Kanon she was actually closing the door alone.

>> No.42656989

>>42656980
Doesn't mean we see everything through her eyes.

>> No.42656990

>>42656960
kinda bad point since in that image is speaking about the gold.

>> No.42656999

>>42656989
the detective is the POV you can't see lies with her present

her presence in a scene confirm her POV

>> No.42657009

>>42656972
characters who are not the detective to not have a reliable viewpoint and can be tricked by "magic". erika can open the closet and come face to face with kanon's corpse, yasu thinking real had about how she's currently shannon and not kanon, whatever you want, she wouldn't be able to see it because the magic narrative overrides it. it's stupid but it's at least somewhat defined and consistent.

>> No.42657018

>>42656999
>the detective is the POV
Prove it.

>> No.42657041

>>42657009
the detective can't see lies
Erika is the detective since pronunced this red truth:
>I proclaim that the chain lock has been repaired by the duct tape seal and has regained its original functionality. And, thanks to that, I locked the room upon entering it and made this guest room a closed room from the inside once more.
no human can be sure t 100% of something, if Erika can say this red truth she is the detective

>Erika mistake
even if Erika is not the detective she can't mistake about anyone in that closet being Kanon
>So, if Kanon really was in this room, it would be impossible for him to escape! Inother words, Kanon was not in that room at the time it was sealed!! The name, Kanon' is an alias. His real name is still unknown! If his real name happens tobe the same as anyone in the next room over, that wouldn't contradict the checkon who was in that room. In other words, it's possible for him to be in the nextroom over, not the cousin room.
as you can read Erika already confirmed Kanon is a fake identity
>>42657018
definition of a detective

>> No.42657049

>>42656960
Kanon isn't addressed directly in that part about motivations. In the main story, he's erased alongside Shannon, Genji and the illusion of Kinzo. But when talking about motivations and behind the scenes stuff at the end they just don't mention Kanon at all. Well, not directly.

>So, the reason Beato and the others disappeared... was that she (Shannon) left the island."

is the closest thing to addressing it. It clearly suggests someone else disappeared due to Shannon leaving the island in addition to Beatrice, although Kanon isn't explicitly named. (Genji and Kinzo are addressed beforehand separately)

>> No.42657053

>>42657041
>definition of a detective
Where?

>> No.42657063

>>42657053
Knox's 7th
It is forbidden for the detective to be the culprit.

nox's 9th
It is permitted for observers to let their own conclusions and explanations be heard.

>> No.42657079

>>42657063
Nowhere there does it say we see everything through the detective's eyes.

>> No.42657088

>>42657079
the detective is not allowed to see illusion as knox rules confirm.

you never read Umineko

>> No.42657100

>>42657088
>the detective is not allowed to see illusion
I never said Erika saw any illusions. Now prove we see everything through the detective's eyes.

>> No.42657103

>>42657100
>>42656789
then she Shannon and Kanon together

>> No.42657108

>>42657103
Prove that was Erika's POV.

>> No.42657117

>>42657108
she is the detective anything with her present in her POV.

>> No.42657122

>>42657117
You haven't proven that.

>> No.42657152

>>42657122
Knox confirm it.

if you want another proof in Umineko ep3.
Battler and Virgilia argument about illusion.
<<so if i wasn't present this mean the scene can be fake>>

>> No.42657169

>>42657063
That's not what Knox' 9th actually says.

>> No.42657181

>>42657152
>Knox confirm it.
How?
><<so if i wasn't present this mean the scene can be fake>>
If the detective isn't present then it can be fake but that doesn't mean if the detective is present then it can't be fake.

>> No.42657183

Erika said Battler is qualified to wear the Head's ring but nobody told her nor she read the "letter". Erika solved the epitaph but nobody told her Kinzo's real hometown . Two firm points that Erika isn't an outsider.

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>>42657183
she knew the solution from the start
Aka 3rd point:

she never heard of the epitaph and 5 second later she read all the newspaper about it

>> No.42657228

>>42657181
>if the detective is present then it can't be fake.
<<so if i wasn't present this mean the scene can be fake>>
this sentence force every scene with battler inside being truth since the onyl case a scene can be fake is when Bttler is not present.

that truth doesn't mean a scene withotu detective is necessary fake

>> No.42657291

>>42657228
That's not how logic works. Just because a scene can be fake if Battler isn't there doesn't mean a scene can't be fake if Battler is there.

>> No.42657308

>>42657291
that how the dialogue between Virgilia and Battler works.

the scene without a detective are a cat box, but the ones with him are a box already open

>> No.42657315

>>42657308
>that how the dialogue between Virgilia and Battler works.
Says who?

>> No.42657316

>>42657308
The narrative at that point follows Battler's point of view though. In spite of Erika becoming the detective character, she doesn't actually become the point of view.

>> No.42657343

>>42657316
Battler is the detective in ep1-4 Erika in ep 5-6
same rules.

if what we see is not Erika's pov the game is simply not a mystery like in SHkanontrice solution.

no absolute POV?
everything can be an illusion everything can be real as solution.

>> No.42657382

>>42657343
And if everything was the detective's POV then that would mean all scenes (including those with magic) are real.

>> No.42657385

>>42657343
>same rules.
Yes, which is why your theory, which relies on Erika seeing illusions (even if ones created by Erika herself), makes no sense.

>if what we see is not Erika's pov the game is simply not a mystery like in SHkanontrice solution.

It's said again and again that episode 5 is different from Beatrice's game.

>everything can be an illusion everything can be real as solution.
That's what YOUR theory says and does though. It entirely relies on a lot of what Erika see, does and say being an illusion.

>> No.42657413

>>42657382
this is why all the fake scenes are the one without detective as Virgilia stated.
>>42657385

> Erika seeing illusions
never stated
>It's said again and again that episode 5 is different from Beatrice's game.
then is not a mystery
Ronove confirmed it as a prfect mystery with all rules respected.
>That's what YOUR theory says and does though. It entirely relies on a lot of what Erika see, does and say being an illusion.
so how can i understand when a scene is not Erika POV or not?

IS IMPOSSIBLE
Nanjo killed everyone if you have problem the proof you present wasn't show in Erika's POV

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>>42657413
>> Erika seeing illusions
>never stated
...so then you agree with me that Erika didn't necessarily see Kanon and Shannon together.

>> No.42657487

>>42657478
Erika Saw Shannon and Kanon inside her head.
if SHaknontrice is truth then the author commited an error.

>> No.42657488

>>42657413
>never stated

Yeah, you're the one stating she's seeing an imaginary Kanon, which is why you're wrong. That's my point. Your theory obligatorily means Erika is seeing illusions.

>> No.42657525

>>42657487
You're simultaneously trying to argue that no illusions can exist while the detective is present but also that the detective saw illusions.

>> No.42657538

>>42657488
>>42657525

Kanon is not imaginary is inside Erika's head
>but muh
play sherlock holmes year 1 for see what i mean.

As Bern stated detective can create thought dimension, this is 1 classic mystery clichè

ever seen detective stop time to think?
detective recreate the crime scene in his mind?
etc...
these clichès create the detective dimension.

in sherlock holmes year 1 and many other mystery the detective create an imaginary friend with which he cal talk to improve his logic.

this is Kanon.

>> No.42657556

>>42657538
>Kanon is not imaginary is inside Erika's head
That makes him imaginary.

>> No.42657567

>>42657556
without love it cannot be seen

literally Umineko theme anon

>> No.42657587

>>42657567
If Erika sees something that is only real inside her head and not in the physical world that means she's seeing an illusion.

>> No.42657606

>>42657587
but Kanon is really inside her head.
>but muh reality
there is no proof he is seen in reality.
no one of the people speak with him.

>> No.42657626

>>42657606
>but Kanon is really inside her head
Still an illusion.

>> No.42657646

>>42657626
without love it cannot be seen.

red truth works with personality
so personality are real

>> No.42657665

>>42657646
Still an illusion because Erika is seeing in the physical world something that is only real in her head.

>> No.42657685

>>42657665
How personlity works?

still doesn't matter
Detective dimension imaginary friend is allowed in mystery

>> No.42657698

>>42657685
So you admit that he's imaginary.

>> No.42657708

>>42657698
is the name of the clichè
we know personality are real thanks the red

>> No.42657725

>>42657708
Call it whatever you want to call it. If the detective can see things that don't exist then his POV is not objective and this discussion is pointless to begin with.

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>>42657725
the detective can see whatever she want in the detective dimension.
Kanon not being a human is show in the game so no reader can complain.

ok 2.30 in italy i go to sleep
remember to paly sherlock holmes year 1

Is a really good game and after play it you will understand what i mean

>> No.42657748

>>42657738
>the detective can see whatever she want in the detective dimension.
Then the detective POV is not objective. Good night.

>> No.42657985

shame, i would have legitimately liked to continue this conversation because the parlor scene (and the other handful of scenes where erika is in a room with both shkanons) are legitimately fucking retarded

>> No.42659193

>>42657985
ok i am here.i short we see Erika not only never discover Kanon nd Shannon who are in front of her 90% of the game re the same people, AFTER 2 HOMICIDES Erika do not care about servants position.

>>42657748
>Then the detective POV is not objective
then is not a mystery

>> No.42659404

>>42659193
>then is not a mystery
Well then your theory is anti-mystery if that's the case.

>> No.42659440

>>42659404
my theory solve ep5 as a complete mystery with Knox and Dine valid and Erika never seen any lie.

if you are telling me a power of the detective can't be used then you just claim ep5 is not a mystery.

>> No.42659644

>>42659440
I'm not claiming EP5 isn't a mystery, you are.

>> No.42659653

>>42659644
by claiming ep5 is not a mystery you arejsut claiming that Shknontrice can't solve the game

>> No.42659662

>>42659653
I just told you I'm not claiming that EP5 isn't a mystery. You're the one making that claim.

>> No.42659703

>>42659662
so what is your point?

You are wrong because the solution can be anything?
LOL

>> No.42659722

>>42659703
>the solution can be anything
But you're the one arguing that by saying the detective can see illusions.

>> No.42659737

>>42659722
i am caliming that the detective can use his powers as stated by everyone in Umineko

you are claiming ep5 and 6 have no meaning since is all an illusion

>> No.42659757

>>42659737
>i am caliming that the detective can use his powers as stated by everyone in Umineko
Still claiming the detective can see illusions.
>you are claiming ep5 and 6 have no meaning since is all an illusion
Never said that.

>> No.42659810

>>42659757
not illusion detective dimension confirmed by Bern
>Never said that.
are not mystery
logic error have no meaning
Erika battler duel have no meaning

>> No.42659870

>>42659810
>not illusion detective dimension confirmed by Bern
Semantics.
>are not mystery
Your words.

>> No.42659893

Actual thread up
>>42659867
>>42659867
>>42659867

>> No.42659938

>>42659870
>Semantics.
absolite important in red truths

SHANNON IS DEAD
KANON IS DEAD
from ep3
you like semantic in this case

the rest is you agian ignoring the fact ep5 and ep6 are not mystery in Shkanontrice

>> No.42660050

>>42659938
>absolite important in red truths
Well, then show me the red truth that says "Erika saw Kanon who only exists inside her head but does not count as an illusion because he's a detective dimension friend."

>> No.42660067

>>42660050
Erika's POV is read truth
if she saw him then is red truth and since no one else can see Kanon in the game Kanon must exist in Erika detective dimension

>> No.42660163

>>42660067
In other words, Kanon exists only in Erika's mind... meaning she saw an illusion.

>> No.42660177

>>42660163
is not an illusion
Kanon exist inside Erika mind
Kanon is a real personality not an illusion.

>> No.42660183

>>42660177
>Kanon exist inside Erika mind
Then he's an illusion.

>> No.42660216

>>42660183
without love it cannot be seen

>> No.42660245

>>42660216
>Knox's 8th, it is forbidden for the case to be resolved with clues that are not PRESENTED! Until now, you have been the DETECTIVE! Was it ever shown that you were not the detective this time, and that you were an observer capable of inserting his own personal IDEAS?!! Unless it was, you do not have the right to falsify your point of VIEW!!
>In this game! When I figured out the device of the epitaph's riddle, I witnessed Grandfather. ...As has already been shown in red, Grandfather doesn't exist. It was impossible for me to witness him! Therefore, it has already been shown that my viewpoint wasn't objective!!

>> No.42660251

>>42660245
>>Knox's 8th, it is forbidden for the case to be resolved with clues that are not PRESENTED
all clues about Kanon being Erika's personality are presented

>> No.42660259

>>42660251
That's not the point. Battler seeing Kinzo in his head makes his point of view not objective, so the same applies for Erika.

>> No.42660269

>>42660259
red truht Erika is the detective

Battler being the detective was never stated
this was the difference

>> No.42660301

>>42660269
Yes, and because Erika is the detective that means her point of view must be objective, and since Battler demonstrated through red truth that someone who sees people who only exist inside said person's head cannot have an objective point of view, it means Erika, being the detective, cannot see people who don't exist outside her head.

>> No.42660311

>>42660301
Battler said that and Bern claim she belived he was a detective too.

Erika is the detective so we don't need to doubt
Kanon Exist inside Erika mind

>> No.42660342

>>42660311
Yes, Erika is the detective, no one's doubting that, but being the detective means her POV is objective and Battler's red truth proves that seeing people that only exist in your mind makes your POV not objective.

>> No.42660349

>>42660342
Battler's red prove he was not a detective like Bern claimed to being able to use Kinzo is alive meme.

in the scene we see Kanon sprite, so Kanon is present in the scene
how?
because he is part of Erika

>> No.42660374

>>42660349
>Battler's red prove he was not a detective like Bern
Also that seeing people that only exist in your head makes your POV not objective.

>> No.42660380

>>42660374
without love it cannot be seen

>> No.42660389

>>42660380
You deny the red truth?

>> No.42660414

>>42650723
Sex with Rosa!

>> No.42660527

I doubt Erika was a detective by mystery standards. The authority was officially transferred to Bernkastel, as she accounted

Knox's 7th extra rule was never omitted. Without that extra rule Battler couldn't detach himself from his detective role.

Erika lied about a handful of things, saw Kanon and Shannon together, was in two fantasy scenes, broke Knox's 2nd/6th/8th.
The adults and Battler were double crossed because it's focused on Erika accused Natsuhi while the murders still happen.

She deliberate avoid to go after Battler's scream or finding Hideyoshi's corpse to give the others time to prepare.

The red truth about the window wasn't opened after it started raining would've ruin the masterminds plan if Erika mentioned that in the study (read about that in the damn tip). Rudolph "opened" the window it contradicts the red truth. This isn't a logic error. The window was left open by someone. Lambda stopped the mastermind from commiting an error.

>> No.42661187

>>42660527
absolute and total right anon.
Erika in ep5 violate any rules of a detective.
the point is why?

the only solution is her being Kanon

>> No.42663438

>>42635745
>>42635779

>> No.42664236

>>42635745

>> No.42664431

>>42661187
naw clearly erika is shannon

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