/jp/ - Otaku Culture

yosh new thread

first for koone

>>42396556
A stimulating classic. 10/10 Op. Approve

Yooooo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diIX7sbAC7s

>>42396607
...japan is weird...

immersion
https://youtu.be/zZJzHs-1zJ0

>>42396641
cute koyote

Post yfw you learned 絵文字

>>42396670

Is there a difference between
彼は車から降りた and 彼は車を降りた?
Is either incorrect?
Thanks.

>>42396607
def like nip ads better than not nip ads but still...

>>42396796
Source?

>>42396810
Nier Automata 1.1a ep 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xcx6MVs2o8E
its a show about gardening robots and their french maid overlords, ep 2 just aired, enjoy!

How about you stop acquiring words and start acquiring some bitches instead?

>>42396556
10/10 festival op

Just passed 4k words in anki today. Only 26k more to go until I'm fluent!

>>42396902
why not both?

i don't even know 30k words in english

yep this is da real thread

>tfw only know 29999 words in english
bros...

h...how do you even find out which one you are missing...?

>tfw kept detailed inventory of every word

おやすみなさい〜

Why are you learning Japanese?

>>42397514
To become a Final Fantasy character in Japan and fuck all the oshis.

where can i watch anime legally 無料? i don't need subs and shit like that, just raw.

>>42397548
https://live.fc2.com has people streaming nip tv all day, other than that, japanese tv maybe...

>>42397514

>>42397548
nyaa if you are flexible on the *legal* part

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68_iNs5ePzQ

there are two possibilities

either the thread start spam is samefagging

or

posters this bad actually exist

>>42397514

SOVL

it looks like western animation tho

>>42397744
thought id hate it but rather enjoying it so far

never seen western animation
never will

>>42397548
4anime.gg it has english subs but you can turn them off

>>42397788
did you not go to school

I see.

>>42397788
I remember I was watching anime thinking it's pretty trash, until I saw Panty and Stocking, which was fantastic, and realised I could watch shows and cinema from all over the world, so I quit anime and went to watch all cartoons and movies. Anime is trash.

>>42396556
Terrible OP. 3/10, no soul whatsoever.

>>42397514

>>42396556
holo thread
>>42396556 #11
>>42387194 #10
>>42378019 #9
>>41926035 #8
>>35778869 #7
>>35744230 #6
>>35706398 #5
>>35686886 #4
>>35665107 #3

>>42396556
Excellent OP. Overflowing with soul. 10/10

>>42397514

>>42397514
i just read some shitty fan translations

I think I'm actually starting to understand shit

https://vocaroo.com/196Dy9A74Z9H

>>42398166
average djter

finished akiba maid war
such a great ride, best yakuza anime ive seen in a long time
if into yakuza/crime stuff give it a shot
teared up at the ending

Just made 30 cards from 15 pages of manga. 2 per page doesn't sound like much on paper but it still feels bad in reality.

>>42398294
find your dad first niggie

>>42398166
wtf spoilers bro

>>42398271
>tfw the panda fucked everyone but the bassist
>>42398290
based keep up the good work, gmi

>>42398326
no wonder she sounded familiar

>>42398290
GMI
Keep me posted.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmGjyTj550k

Why does it seem like the only people who can succeed in learning Japanese are depressed losers that 24/7 ajatt as a cope in order to escape from reality? I've heard this same story again and again. And every time they're disappointed once they achieve their goal and realize it didn't solve any of their problems.

yoooooo
https://youtu.be/zRIVwKgU5Xw

>>42398459
based picked up

lesse if her futon review streak continues with nenechi

>>42396556
yoooooooooooooooo 10/10 op

>>42398459
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7P5oggg7aSE

>>42398388
Welcome to the real world - achieving your "goals" does not solve your problems.
Getting a gf, getting fit, getting a degree, getting a job... neither of these solve the fundamental problems of the mind. The problems are forever there to stay...

>>42398523
cute kyok

>>42398539
nenechi...

>>42398528
sad but true

>>42398271
Guess I'll give it a go.

will I ever learn japanese

how many of you actually speak japanese to other people?

>>42398775
me every day

>>42398775
I spoke broken Japanese daily when I did exchange in Hokkaido. Not anymore and I have not studied in years either, just watching subbed anime while trying to pick up on spoken language neuances.

>>42397855
I want to fuck Hotaru

I dreamed I was speaking my shitty japanese to Korone while we played some kind of deep sea exploration full immersion futuristic vr game together.

This upsets me. I don't even really like vtubers, and I've been into 2hu for like a decade and still haven't dreamed about them once.
At least speaking japanese in a dream is probably a good sign of some kind.

>じーーーーっ
wtf? what does this mean??? do japanese people just make random noises and you're supposed to decipher them? it's just one noise spread out

>>42399034
and why is she making this sound in the first place? jmdict says this isn't a word

>>42399034
It is the sort of thing you will never get unless you life it I guess.

>>42399038
sound effect for staring

>>42398100
Nice, gmi. I am ngmi. I don't understand at all.

>>42399034
*stares in japanese*

next time I visit my psychiatrist i'm gonna stare at him and say "jiiiiiiiii"

柵 looks like a fence

>>42398775
I don't want to embarrass myself

775
not me

>>42399242
embarrassing

>>42399242
plot twist, she's laughing at his hairline, not his japanese

>>42399034
>He----llo
I dont get it, do gaijin just make randome noises nd you're supposed to decipher them? it's just one noise spread out

chibbas who cant feel out be like :

>>42399034
here's your (you) for good bait

Difference between KORE and SORE?
As a non english native I dont get the diffirence between this and that, is it even important?
I would assume Sore would be used for example pointing to something while kore for something you are holding in your hand for example, correct?

>>42399415
what's your native language

>>42399318
that's not spread out, and that's a real word. are japanese people all autistic?

>>42399034
it's one of these onom nom words

omnom

>>42397744
What is this? Fullmetal alchemist reboot?

are there any newspapers you like reading? because all i've tried feel like homework, mundane stuff
however having stuff ranging from news to art to sports has a lot to offer for vocab

eiffel tower bro took down his s***lands google sheet link but left his video up? why?

>>42399415
Do you seriously speak a language without demonstratives? Does that exist?

Kore is that close to the speaker but not the listener.
Sore is that close to the listener but not the speaker.
Are is that distant from both speaker and listener.

>>42399231
The right side is a pictograph of bamboo slips bound together, so pretty close: 册

>>42399731
I still can't read. I still need to slowly collect the words, make a wild guess about the meaning, and then put it in deepl and see how close I was.

Nobody asked, but I am bit sad about it.

>>42399941
Lmfao
are you american?

>>42400039
No. Why you ask?

>>42396556
Current thread: #3479

Previous threads:
>>42387194 #3478
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皆さんは普段通り

just read 怪談s

yooooooooooo
https://youtu.be/R2M2M-9mw0o

>>42400335

wake up
brekkie
reppie
work
food
reppie
bed

repeat

my life atm

>>42400335
https://youtu.be/1hbcm9LwaKE

>>42399842
Kore - speaker can reach it with his hand
Sore - speaker can not reach it with his hand but it's not far, eg across the room
Are - it's far away from the speaker

Why is/was English so much easier to master compared Japanese?

>>42400472
Because it's a Latin based language. If you learn a new language that has a completely different system and way of thinking it will always be super hard.
t. learned Finnish

>>42400472
the answer is obvious if you think about it for 3 seconds

>>42400472
while most every other language in existence is related to other languages, japanese is a language isolate with no relationship to any other language on earth other than its own dialects.
this means that unlike romantic or germanic languages where one may share words and grammar and thus familiarity with them, making picking them up easier, Japanese was handed down by Amaterasu, and has nothing to do with anything else. chinese kanji are used with it as a historical accident but they are used in a very, very different way in japanese than they are in chinese

>>42399415
Kore - This (close)
Sore - That (further away)
Are - That (very far away)

Note the consistent 're' part when referring to objects.

Koko - Here
Soko - There

Ko- = near
So- = far
-ko = location
-re = object

Your ability to learn languages is closely tied to your ability to notice patterns.

all of you people who are finding it so hard just don't enjoy shit
thats your problem
and as for you ESLs who are confused as to why it's hardwr than English, it's cause you're zoomers who absorbed English by watching pewdiepie and YouTube essays and shit. half of you sound like you're looking for jp content to learn with instead of just doing jp stuff cause you like it
I had so much fun even before immersion was comprehensible. even when I didn't understand I enjoyed myself

>>42400762
holy based

reps and breakfast done

I have zero comprehension but tits are tits.

>>42400762
I actually learned English watching anime with English subtitles.

>>42400762
If I didnt enjoy japanese, why would I wanna learn?
I dont know if being an ESL is a good thing or not, for one it makes the guide a little harder to follow but also I know language that isnt just english so thats good more perspective.
Ohaiyogozaimazu naru nihongu

>>42400890
in that case gmi
I'm just talking about the people crying how painful they find it lol

I hate how the moment I start learning everything wants me to stop I dont know if im GMI but just let me learn in peace maybe even typing this will hinder me I tried to keep it a secret but I feel like everyone knows im trying to learn japanese and its killing my motivation.
Nobody knows there is no pressure its just for fun leave me in peace I just wanna know some basic japanese i dont want to be a master it just would be nice

>>42400943
just kill them all

>~>

>>42398459
nice
>>42398761
yes!
>>42398775
me, sometimes!
>>42398895
so jelly she never talks to me in my dreams its all sex sex sex sex sex, sometimes i feel like she doesn't even care about what i have to say...
>>42399124
gmi!
>>42399231
its true...
>>42399723
nta but new trigun, episode 2 just aired, its a story about two brothers looking for the stone of philosophy
>>42400335
nice
>>42400395
gmi!
>>42400762
i learned english with takanashi kiara! shes great and a lot of fun!
>>42400890
true, gmi!
>>42400922
based, gmi to you too anon!

goood morning guys! today too its japanese study time!

>want to immerse
>less than 10% comprehension
>fall asleep

>>42401107
sleeping is good for gains

if you woke up outside of japan you already failed your japanese reps/immersion/study/etc. for the rest of the day

>>42401227
just read japanese twitter! its like being in japan!
https://twitter.com/momosuzunene/status/1615357381390798848?s=20

any series that has , or god forbid in the title is a massive red flag

cool 4chan doesn't even allow it

laugh at that guy

you'll never know the secret red flag symbols

fucking kek
first thought is 件 but thst wouldn't get filtered

I'm starting to suspect djt doesn't know japanese

duh

>>42396748
idk sorry
>>42401432
:l

>>42401273
giwtwm

>>42399034
seriously bro? this is weebs first sound
https://youtu.be/R2fGKm7lru8

寸止め

>>42396748
I'm an input only so I only know what they mean but I don't know if they're incorrect. I don't output so it's not my problem ;)

surely you'd know if they were correct if you truly understood what your input
input is just output but in reverse

>>42401621
yeah youre right, but look at any esl post where you know what they mean but it's broken English
you don't have to know when to properly use all the articles and prepositions yourself to understand content
same kinda shit exists in jp
I'm just saying I'm at the (shitty) level where I'd get the point of either of those sentences but not be able to tell you confidently whether they're real Japanese or not. but yeah I'm just gonna keep eating native sentences until I can tell you

>>42396748
>he
>car
>from
>descended

>he
>descended
>car

Japanese makes no sense to me.

>>42401728
I think it's fine
if you replaced car with horse descended, from the horse would make perfect sense to you
馬から降りた is an example for 降りる in j j dicts btw
English dismount/get off the horse and get out of the car, it's not that big of a difference. if anything I could see japs being confused that dismount is allowed for horses but not cars for whatever reason

>>42401728
it'd make sense if you had higher iq

vbijin just said my name holy shit I get why you retards enjoy this

showed me friend some scenes from AoT and fitting to rewatch the whole thing before the final season comes out tbqh

>>42398166
why the fuck was this deleted? it's a vocaroo of someone speaking japanese

>>42401955
sir this is the hololive thread

>>42401771
Maybe here it makes a little bit of sense, but I had sentences with words that I just couldn't figure out after hours of searching. And the fact I can use j-j dictionary or read example sentences fucks me over. This language just refuses to be learned. Even if I put all the effort in it.

>>42396748
heh
https://japanese.stackexchange.com/questions/98192/%E3%82%92%E9%99%8D%E3%82%8A%E3%82%8B-or-%E3%81%8B%E3%82%89%E9%99%8D%E3%82%8A%E3%82%8B-which-one-is-correct

>>42401955
he deleted it himself because he was embarrassed

>>42402014
>there's no difference in nuance
>but here's a difference in nuance
is this nigga stupid

goooood afternoon

>>42401985
true true

>>42401955
https://voca.ro/1iNKuekJh02L
will never delete mine

>>42402009
>but I had sentences with words that I just couldn't figure out after hours of searching
stop doing that retard
it will be way easier to understand those sentences when you've encountered the patterns over and over
your brain doesn't have enough example sentences cause you spend time on that instead of just getting more sentences
you should binge something NOW

huh

>>42402067
https://www.tofugu.com/japanese-grammar/particle-wo/

imagine for context someone is about to buy a car
then 彼は車を降りた means he gave up on buying the car

>put food in the oven
>forget to turn on oven
>check food after 30 minutes
>seethe uncontrollably

>>42402089
I can imagine cause I remmeber it being used for a ton of assembled men backing out of a plan once the guy organizing it was forced to disclose the whole truth about his scheme after they'd all been gathered

https://streamable.com/f29od0

>>42402132
you should make an anki card so you never forget

>>42402132
>cooking food
ngmi

>>42402150
she recommended a doujin that was literally a loli getting kidnapped and brutally raped, I like lolis but I'm never taking a rec from her again

she has good taste

>>42402168
whats the name of the doujin? sounds cute

>>42402197
don't remember

>>42402197
probably geiger counter

wtf does 私が私の mean?

なぞる means nuzzle...wow....

watasiga watasino tintinwo sasiagemasita

>>42402342
I am...All of Me by Crush 40

>>42402342
looks like you dropped your sentence lol

>>42402354

give me the qrd on vr chat broskis

too many furries and legbees
never played in jap rooms but i imagine it's full of weebs

>>42402384
need to pass n1 to converse

>>42402384
tons of people who are so nice that they're not nice if you know what i mean

how come the jetblack guy stopped posting videos

>>42402441
lmfao wtf

>>42402441
lmfao

>>42397744
sick cutscene
what video game is it from

>>42402441
uwu

all the kanji that have this piece of shit in it are basically decided on a dice throw if it's かん or けん
little bastard

>>42402616
forgot my picture

As a complete beginner, is it really worth spending most of your learning time watching anime without English subtitles, possibly with Japanese subtitles? All the guides seem to recommend this but it seems largely pointless before I've built up a foundational vocabulary through Anki. Not entirely pointless, I get that it might help me hear Japanese as less of a 'blur' but, I'm still not getting much out of it from what I can tell.

you can watch em with english subs too

>>42402836
you can spend a month or two droning ur idiot cards in anki to build up your foundation of sand that will mean nothing when u start anyways. after that do anime with jp subs or read yotsuba

https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/agoB3Dw_460svav1.mp4

>>42402163
>not cooking food
ngmi

>>42402690
Wait, radicals influence the reading? Hello?
>>42402836
I have no idea. Apparently there is some meme magic at play influencing your brain to become a miraculous memory machine, but I didn't quite get it. I am going to watch Monoke hime with jp subtitles, because I saw like million times as kid. Maybe sorcery exists.

>>42402912
>not hiring a cook to cook for you
ngmi

>>42402913
>Monoke hime
you're probably going to get btfod, i tried watching it after a year or so and found it very difficult. came back to it 3 years after that raw and it was fine

>>42402930
>not hiring a translator to translate japanese for you
ngmi

>>42400110
next thread #12

holo thread
>>42396556 #11
>>42387194 #10
>>42378019 #9
>>41926035 #8
>>35778869 #7
>>35744230 #6
>>35706398 #5
>>35686886 #4
>>35665107 #3

>>42402163
yep *burps*

mononoke hime is prime miyazaki
>paper thin characters
>2 leads that barely any scenes together so 0 development in that regard either
>most on the nose messaging possible
>great animation, soundtrack and voice work
>universally praised with miyazaki having his balls thoroughly gargled despite being a hack

>>42402940
I have 10%-20% comprehension. The thing is, no matter, absolutely no matter what, I decide to do, I get filtered. There was this line; I mean look, one word to mine, one new verb wait that's not right, there is no okakesu in dictionary, is that honorific, wait suru? What, no... where i am? I had to screenshot it and will look it up tomorrow.

3 months in and I still have nothing rewarding to do...

>>42402999
it had blood and cool animals though

>>42403008
i wouldn't bother with it then, you'll understand next to nothing. stick to babby anime like digimon, flying bitch, mitsuboshi colors etc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVN7jqTJCKg

>>42402836
it becomes more effective after memorizing some vocab
in any case, whenever you start actually immersing, you will regret not starting sooner
it accelerates the beginning nothing to learn but some vocab memorization phase drastically
you will reach the more effective immersion sooner if you start immersing sooner

>>42403024
seconding mitsuboshi colours
very easy and kinda fun
made me laugh a couple times too

>>42403008
it's kakeru and masu

>>42403024
Why do you think this will help me improve? or how will my experience be different compared to normal not-for-dumb-babies production?

>>42403008
お is just a polite prefix
you can ignore it

迷惑をかける
to cause trouble (for someone)

>>42403024
>>42403061
if no holo then go to djt

>>42403064
して is te form of masu?

>>42403071
with language learning you want your content to be above your current level but to a reasonable degree. in an ideal world you'd consume content the difficulty of which corresponds to 10-20% higher than your current level (arbitrary numbers). since you can't really do that your best option is to just go through babby anime like the ones i listed till you run out of them, get bored of them or improve sufficiently to watch regular stuff. it's still japanese, just a bit easier so you're not missing out on anything

>>42403088
what do you think しまいました is

>>42403078
This is just... i only know kakeru as hang. Now that I am looking at it, that verb just means everything. I am miffed.

cure dolly NOW
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MbqmZPySPQ

>>42403119
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MbqmZPySPQ
dollman (RIP ) to the rescue

>>42403111
teshimau+masu+past

>>42401837
post name!
>>42401985
true and correct!
>>42402031
nyaharoooooo!
>>42402132
i forgot making this post...
>>42402150
wtf festival is based
>>42402384
its like here but in vr and in Japanese
>>42402550
trigun stampede for switch
>>42402836
i never used japanese subtitles! there was no point in usinf subtitles i could not read and which distracted me from the things that mattered. it worked okay
>>42402913
they are called 音符 and aren't always reliable but yes, youll notice a lot of kanji with the same 音符 have the same readings, kanji only have a single radical, as defined in japanese (the meaning part of the kanji which you use to look up in a paper japanese dictionary)
>>42403008
that changes fast, the same most common words are 80% of the words in everything so as you go youll understand more and more abd your brain sometimes can figure out the rest
>>42403119
掛ける is the fuck of japanese
>>42403134
literally me

>>42403150
>post name!
https://streamable.com/y67wrx

>>42403079
https://streamable.com/uqssiq

>>42403160
nanora is a subtle joke...!

>>42403128
>>42403129
heh

>>42403099
Ok, I will gladly rewatch Digimon actually. I think there were some characters that made me feel things. And I am supposed to watch it with JP subs and mine here or there, right? Anything else I could watch?

>>42403143
you got it

does teshimau ever become confusing on whether it's by accident or doing something completly/determined?

>>42403176
lmao
>>42403193
nta but if you are watching things do not pause to mine, language has rythm and cadence and intonation and infinite clues as to meaning that you get just from listening it, you break that process whenever you pause to look stuff
sakura crab captors and magical doremi are also great, also hukumusume for 5 minute long stories in nip if you like nip lore

>>42403202
but what is the first shite then?

>>42403193
if you already know the gist of the story and rewatch something you will pick up way more vocab even if you watch raw

>>42403193

>>42403229
suru
he suru'd the kake

>>42403229
おかけ＋する＋しまう

non-pausers wont make it
white noising is worthless

you shouldnt overpause either

pause for those words that deserve it, tip of the tongue feeling words

>>42403277
don't bother everyone knows the avatarfag doesn't know japanese

>>42403079

never paused anything
never will

rururururu ru ru ru rurururururru rururururu

fuck this fucking shit get out of my head

i pause sometimes but sometimes i just don't wanna

>>42403309
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdR-8Ne5x8w

why overcomplicate it, just pause for words you don't know and get good

>>42403309
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7P5oggg7aSE
なななな な なじゃなくて
にににに に にじゃなくて
ぬぬぬぬ ぬ ぬじゃなくて
のののの の のじゃなくて
う～ ね！
ねね！
よいしょよいしょよいしょよいしょ！
ねね！
よいしょよいしょよいしょよいしょ！

Miyamoto Musashi said to accept everything just the way it is, when he said this he meant if you don't know something, just accept it. You'll come to know it when the time is right.

>>42403350
for me the time is way before you

>>42403323
>>42403332
>their “discussions” about teletubbies have the vocabulary level and sentence structure of a 3 year old screaming after it has soiled itself

>>42403350
YOOOO
holy based loved sekiro
>役に立たぬ事を、せざる事

>>42402897
So just literally look up every single word I come across in yotsuba or in an anime (which in itself can be challenging, even knowing when one word ends and another begins)? That's really the most efficient way, in your view?

>>42403379
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptVR6dbDGjE

>>42403406
when you first start that's too slow, cause you won't get enough input volume (because there are too many unkown words/minute)
what I did was I would look up everything for maybe a couple episodes then binge several without pausing. in my cause that method was a huge success. now I just look up every unknown word cause it's not frequent enough to slow things down

>>42403406
I feel like people who recommend this don't remember what it was like to not have a decent foundational vocabulary. If you can look at a sentence and understand at least 50% of it or something, that's something. You can probably learn well that way. But doing it when knowing NOTHING, AT ALL? I'm not so sure.

>>42403406
>>42403433
i did 2 months of idiot cards before starting to read yotsuba and still ha to look up basically everything, even words i supposedly knew. if you want to drone before you start inputting thats fine just dont expect it to be of significant help

>>42403406
nta but the most efficient way is probably to watch something in nip you already watched in a language you understand
playing a game you already played works too
your mind doesn't forget languages like it forgets other things and will tend to be able to interpret whatever it is from its memories of the previous (understandable) event, even if you cant consciously remember the previous watch/playthrough that well, the same way you can tell whether the subtitles match what someone said or not even if you don't know the language being subtitled from all sorts of instinctual cues

watch an anime listed on jpdb after reviewing the deck for that anime

>>42403446
you mean anime cards? many such cases, sad!

>>42403446
sounds like you're retarded

>>42403461
anime cards and queefster weren't a thing at that point yet
>>42403468
true true

>>42403446
true true

alright i tried some anime but i can't do this, it's excruciatingly slow and the vocab volume isn't high enough
looks like it vinny, linny, audiobook and geimu only for me

losers grind kanji compound -> reading and wonder why they cant understand jack

>>42403477
yeah i got tired of the non-denseness of anime language and switched to alternating between pure reading and pure listening

never get tired of anime with tiddies

>>42403477
same, as for me, vbijin, 10 times the language density and topic variety of most any other media
truly the next best thing to a nymphomaniac japanese half sister during quarantine

>>42403497
based 80iq tit enjoyer

>>42403497
gmi!
>>42403504
holo gmi

>>42403473
>reading route
>'pretty' steep difficulty
>every single thing will be incomprehensible to you
>spend an hour to get through 3 pages of a children's manga
>after this hour, you have learnt nothing and won't learn anything until you come across those words dozens of times again
>is fun

>>42403517
so glad that didn't happen to me *continues to binge vinnies/manga and listen to vtubers while doing chores and doing daily walks*

>>42403517
there is a way that works with 100% surity
but it is hard work and not fun for most people

>>42403323
Found my new alarm.

>>42403119
The forbidden knowledge is to just mentally replace kakeru with suru when you read it.

>>42403538
works with most verbs

>>42403517
works on my brain machine

if i was starting from scratch now id definitely fail and quit within a month, no idea wtf drove me back in the day

>>42403538
>>42403119
for me I didn't understand かける until I I got used to かかる and then when I realized かける is the transitivity counterpart to かかる it suddenly made way more sense. I still don't feel I have the second nature grasp of it as natives dont' and it's definitely not as intuitive as かかる, but I mostly get it now
>>42403548
love

>>42403517
do hukumusume! its fun and 5 minutes per if, and pregnant with meaning!
>>42403531
based same
>>42403534
j-j no hover bros we won

>>42403538

as for me, mokuro on the ipad while in bed

>>42403550
woops
>as natives do*

>>42403556
this but with ur mum on my dick

>>42403556
mokuro is fantastic

>>42403531
>>42403551
as soon as you binge vtubers you've basically already mad it

>>42403548
as for me...

>>42403561
jokes on you my mum is a black gay man and she has aids

>>42403564
>they incessantly post pointless and meaningless pics and webms of their retarded teletubbies

>>42403553
but that's 駆ける not 掛ける

>>42403553
>the girl doing time
>>42403563
yoshi!

>they

https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1615404722071998478/pu/vid/1346x720/9FCOc_J2KP9sUKuD.mp4?tag=12
>愛知県
>i chicken

lmao

>>42403601
Gottem

>>42403601
lmao

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNfboNEFh-g
>cutesy, wholesome song
>mv is her acting like a whore
kek

>>42403620
a cutesy and wholesome whore

>>42403620
nice kyok!

>>42403620
producer went like "trust me on this, the mv will make you famous" right after she sucked his dick

the real hack is you can replace all verbs in any language with do

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i23dI5rFaow
watching the first ep of this, op is kino expecting the show to be shite

>>42403669
let me know how it is! am out of shows again

onimai is the best show this season

>>42403699
the reason why the animation is so good is cause the animators who draw one piece and shit cause they have to would be drawing lolis if they could draw whatever they wanted

今日の曲
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7MuUadCV90

>>42403699
picked up, but as for me, automata
>>42403721
why are animators like this?
>>42403723
amazing kyok

JAPAN語はSTUDYする

>>42403721
nah its cuz they got vbijin enjoyers working on it

>>42403666
the real hack is that nouns, verbs and even proper nouns like names can be used interchangeably

>>42403742
YOOOOO HOLOCURE SOON! (i hope)

>>42403750
misread holocure and thought you were based for a second

>>42403734
https://streamable.com/21bppy

marklar

the real hack is that words are largely meaningless and interchangeable, the meaning comes from a shared understood corpus of experiences and memories, words absent that are useless
子子子子子子子子子子子子
>>42403761
t..thanks you too...!
>>42403734
https://streamable.com/pzi3l8
today, for real!

wotd https://streamable.com/uc8p4f

>>42403784
holobased

>>42403784
fuck thought it was gonna be zoubutu fml

never mined
never will

>>42403800
its motsu cuz you 持つ them

>>42403534
What's that?

never mind people that never mined

>>42403690
it was interesting, worth watching at least a few eps to see how it goes

>>42403699
https://streamable.com/phc20r
it's very fun and i haven't jerked off once yet
saving the nut for momiji

>>42403830
good enough, IKZ!
>>42403845
cute

if wonderwize says its aots you know its dogshit

dunno who wonderwize is
don't care who wonderwize is
call him wonder whys cause i'm wondering why you associate with ecelebs

more like wonderwエイズ

https://streamable.com/nw9lo1

>>42403804
How long you've been learning?

simply don't click streamable links

one of my great life regrets is that i'll never get to plant a perfect right cross into jachinks stupid face. few humans have deserved to be beaten bloody as much as he does

>>42403923
holy based

dont care
dont care

>>42403939
not even this one
https://streamable.com/cum3vs

>>42403963
>cum
seems about right

>>42403963
wouldn't know what that one was

>>42403923
crazy how the right idea at the right time can change the world
based doggo

>>42403959
>>42403180
is wawa a husbando now?

>>42403981
waifu

https://streamable.com/hrpewk

>>42403987
no no, nene marries people shes a polyorgasmist

>>42403999
giwtwm

is 1-3 word lookups per anime episode a good amount? i understand some words but most sentences i don't

>>42404022
how many breads have you eaten in your life?

>>42403924
around 6

>>42404029
i don't know

>>42403963
i feel bad for garnt lol
nigga married THIS... l o l

dunno who garnt is
don't care who garnt is
call him garn't cause i can't why you associate with ecelebs

>泡風呂
>1. bubble bath​
>2. jacuzzi
Those are two very different things.

>>42404022
it doesnt matter
don't look for metrics like that, focus on how much you understand
if you don't understand a single word but managed to catch 2 and look those two up, its different than if you understand every word sans 2 which you look up

>>42404022
just do it, don't stress about the exact procedure
always look it up if it's only 1 unknown word in a sentence

>>42404022
what are your goals? How much anime you watch?
If you watch 2 animes a day you learn 6 words a day, you do the math but also mostly importantly. Do you enjoy it?

>>42404082
my goal right now is just to increase my overall comprehension in reading and listening to a level where i understand enough to enjoy immersing for the content.
i'm doing 20 new cards of a core deck at the moment in the morning and then i usually just play some game where i look up practically everything and move like a snail.
i don't listen enough at all so i'm trying to figure out a sweet spot of lookups that allows me to get a lot of input and not pause too much while still gaining new words though.
my gut feeling is that 1 word an episode would be too little, 3 may be good. something like 20 could easily be done but feels way too much and slow me down again.
so i was just wondering what people feel like about 1-3 per ep

when will the NYE fag onslaught end

>>42404111
i feel like you are doing things wrong
you should so much as possible, enjoy things
that said, youll eventually get where you want if you continue, each anime is different though, 3 words from stand along complex and 3 words from peppa pig are different things
maybe try to find easier stuff you enjoy, or stuff youve seen/done before, thats a big boost too
what game?

>>42404119
they all have big gmi energy so im sure itll last a while

you should only need like a month of djt advice to be self sufficient, the rest is just shitposting

>>42404134
i've been bouncing between Zelda games for now, thinking of trying Persona 4. open to recommendations though, at the moment i still value simple gains more than the actual content because i just don't understand very much especially without dictionaries.

>>42404111
humans understand language largely as a result of recognizing the cause effect relationships between things. mining is better than using a core deck, humans aren't great at memorizing lists of random words
try hukumusume! easy short childrens stories (so mostly kana), with audio and a simple grammar structure!
once your context grows, so will your comprehension, even if you don't even know what every word means (in english)
also, watame and okayu are fun and do a lot of rpgs, might be something to try
>>42404162
love gmi energy!
>>42404176
my first games were igavanias, ender lilies, and things like that, text is concentrated in certain spots, gameplay is great, and you have a bestiary with tons of fun interesting things and pictures!
if you like vns, try nekopara, its a wholesome story about the bonds between cats and their masters!
whatever you are interested in will work though, something you are interested in will work better than something you are not but is more "educational"
good luck bro! gmi!

>>42404036
that's a 10/10 in bongland

>>42404162
the ones this year have been extra self deprecating for some reason

still stuck at the bank in persona 5

>lets pick the 声優 with the most annoying and grating voice we can find

>>42404162
i'm the only one that's actuallt gonna make it

what would happen if クイズ& 蛇丸 were placed into a 手コキしないと出られない部屋

>>42404244
it's just that one American guy with the age complex and the ESL slav

>>42404282
ngmi
only ones that make it make it together with their bros

The japanese numbering system is fucking retarded
I could understand making
-つ いちつ but making it ひと・つ really fucks with me

>>42404300
thats fine its cause you're trying too hard to memorize atm
after hours of immersion you'll be used to いち and ひと both meaning one in countless situations and you won't even notice it any more *takes a 一口 of water

us just making it like bros!

>>42404277
had the same thought, she's been typecast hard. she was also the stupid bitch in 86 s02

>>42404111
How many words are you into the core deck. Because that makes the difference between "trying to comprehend real Japanese" and "whitenoising for 23 minutes"

Any recommendations for a font randomizer for Anki? I found https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/1603486068 but the reviews say there are some issues with it so I was wondering if something better is out there. Was looking to resume my studies and I remember the font randomizer script for WaniKani actually helped me a lot last time when I was using that site for actually recognizing kanji "in the wild". (I don't intend to this time, but it would be nice to accomplish a similar functionality in Anki)

>>42404342
a little over 500 with a few from outside so maybe 550 to 600. it doesn't feel like white noise, i can pick out enough words while watching something simple to kinda get what's going on but 9 out of 10 sentences still have something in them that i don't know to fully get it

>>42404338
liked her in some other roles though

She was really cute as Akebimouto

gomi yorosiku

>mfw I press "Easy" on an Anki card that's part of a boring series because "I'll learn it sequentially later"

>>42404474
https://streamable.com/v6we9a
>>42404502
大語な舞毛糸！

>>42404316
do you know a good resource for learning japense numbers?
I feel anki on its own isnt going to work for this for me,

>>42404530
native media

>>42403742
Ina worked on the show btw

>>42404231
>out of nowhere
this is what obsession looks like lol

https://youtu.be/-QO6oPMuPFI
this OP taught me to count

>>42404559
its a meme bro chill

getting shitfaced tomorrow and hopping on some form of voice chat also ill probably record a karaoke vocaroo and post it here so people can have a laugh

>>42404557
holo picked up!

new wild arms show so good bros
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siyF7osyxDc

I've been studying "Japanese" for almost a year only to finally realize this is a Chinese vocab deck I downloaded...

>>42404563
this dumbass song taught me numbers before I knew a lick of Japanese
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3won-7W3Js

>>42403820
focused immersion for hours
stop and look up everything you dont get
repeat ad nauseam

>>42404664
acquired numbers
一ニ三四五六七八九十
壱弐参肆伍陸漆捌玖拾
甲乙丙丁戊己庚辛壬癸

>>42404707
n10

>>42404695
cuter than sakura

yeah...

>>42404734
mined these when i played it

>>42404713
*n拾

>>42404661
sunk cost, learn chinese

>>42404661
if you had actually touched Japanese you would have noticed less than a month in

>>42404771
instead he touched your mom

it would be a pretty cool origin story when anon makes it in chinese and people ask him how he started out
well i wanted to learn japanese but...

>>42400762
I'm not really finding Japanese hard honestly. It's just a mountain of vocabulary and getting used to the structure of everything. Kanji fitting together like Latin/Greek is a lot more natural feeling than I thought it'd be.

>>42404796
>its not really hard except for the things that make it hard

>>42404801
they dont make it hard they make it fun

>>42404813
what is fun makes me hard

>>42404801
Just because there's a lot to learn doesn't make it difficult to do, it just makes it take time because you can only absorb so much at a time.

>>42404796
gmi

>>42404404
I guess that font randomizer works for now. I did have to make the code changes mentioned in the reviews and I already encountered one card that couldn't be displayed due to a bad font but I just copied/pasted it into Word to see what font was being used and removed that one from the pool so I assume I can continue to do this when I encounter such issues

>>42404820
>Aki Rose the half-elf
Mine and Furea's child...

>>42404818
if you cant do it fast then its hard

Is it dumb to do Anki before I spend significant time in studying grammar? All the guides seem to suggest front loading grammar, but I remember I did that last time and forgot most of it by the time I actually wanted to try reading something, and I just want to get back into the routine of studying again before I bog myself down adding a textbook into the mix I have to get through right at the start.

I do remember SOME things like the basic particles but realistically I probably will have to relearn most of it from scratch since it's been years, but I know even at the time that Tae Kim stuff didn't really stick with me for very long after I put it down to study vocab. Maybe I'll do better with Genki this time?

>>42403574
Even better, since they show the character flying through the sky, it might be 翔る.

>>42404841
at no point should you "study" grammar
you should only look up stuff when you come across it in media you consume
everything else is a waste of time

>>42404841
Use a deck that has example sentences and just learn grammar from them.

>genki
lol

>>42404851
>jyoubu
lmao

>>42404851
Is there something better? Like I said, I tried Tae Kim in the past but didn't really retain much. Maybe I'll do as >>42404848 said and just try to brute force it for a while and then revisit TK when I'm already reading native material so have more foundation to actually apply the concepts?