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>Imperishable Night


Why are you so fucking terrible, OP?

I don't think you're ready for extra yet.

tek tek tek ?

Lower-left corner as Reimu.

Safe spot.

Or, hot-shot it in the gap that appears *just* above the death fairy in your screenshot. The gap revolves, so you must also, but this is the proper way to beat it. Watch youtube videos.

>>4226605

Imperishable Night is many peoples' favorite Touhou game. I've seen it come out in top in many polls.

I'm more into Subterranian Animism (and Shoot The Bullet), but I think th08's (extremely) forgiving death-bomb window makes it more accessible.

>>4226662
>more accessible
Read: easier

It's a waste of time to discuss the difficulty of Touhou games on /jp/. We're full of elitist faggots who aren't satisfied simply shitting on people who don't play the games at all. It's some kind of proud achievement to die over and over again until you memorize the patterns well enough not to anymore.

That's how you get "good" at any shooter. Die enough, and you'll do alright.

>>4226679
That's why practice mode is awesome.

>>4226662

Is that supposed to justify piss easy IN?

>>4226679
But...I only come for the VNs.
I am and always will be terrible at the touhous.

I did 1cc CtC normal once

>>4226638
Okay, I'll give it a shot.

What bothers me is that I can get though EX-Keine with no problem, but the fairies after her are what rape me.

>>4226679
>We're full of elitist faggots who aren't satisfied simply shitting on people who don't play the games at all.
Actually, I'm pretty sure that people like >>4226605 (as if using an avatar wasn't enough proof) and the "come back after you beat Lunatic without moving" are trolls.

Yeah, I have magnificent observing skills.

As for noises, OP, try playing UFO MarisaA without having your eardrums pierced.

>>4226679

Then why was I able to 1cc LLS in a single try after only playing twice before, some months prior, neither time passing the 5th stage? Why are some people able to reliably capture completely random spellcards?

>>4226703
This is just a guess, but: really good reaction times, and a healthy dose of luck?

>>4226668

"More accessible" often is an euphemism for "easier". (I'm programmer for one of the largest game publishers, and I hear the former term quite a bit)

However, the real value of the longer death-bomb window isn't merely to make the game easier (if you need the long window, you're still going to lose the game).

Rather, the long window gives the player moments where they feel like they've playing the game well: "Yes! I just barely bombed in time to save my life!".

I'd also argue the longer death-bomb window shouldn't be frowned upon by the elite players. It encourages a playstyle where one actually attempts to capture every single spellcard, rather than bombing prematurely on spellcards that always give you trouble. Eventually, once you learn the tricks, you won't *need* the long window 'cause you won't get hit.

>>4226703
That's a really bad example, LLS is by far the easiest PC-98 touhou game.

Now, if you had 1cc'd SoEW in a single try, THEN I would have given you some credit.

Oh yeah, which character does /jp/ recommend for use in EoSD? I tend to use ReimuA, but was wondering if any of the others were more recommended.

>good reaction times
Yes. That is more the appeal than memorization is for most, I think.

>>4226692

There are reliable ways to deal with all the fairies in Extra.

Seriously, watch youtube videos (the user Kefit is exceedingly good). They're the best way to learn that level.

Curious: Have you beaten Mokou yet? I'm guessing not, if you still have difficulty with the level itself. Mokou is my favorite Extra boss. Her spellcards are so extremely fun to learn and dodge. And her Last Word is such a wonderful way to end that fight.

>>4226703

Nobody's at the top or bottom of their game at all times. Sometimes you get dumb beginner's luck and make a move that should be stupid but winds up squeezing through because you didn't know any better, sometimes your focus is stone cold unbroken, you know exactly what's coming, and you fly smack into a bullet anyway.

Those odd early successes are sometimes called "flukes" or "beginners' luck."

>>4226716
ReimuB is also good. Will take down bosses faster and you still have Reimu's awesome hitbox.

I also personally like MarisaA because she seems to have the strongest firepower. But generally, ReimuA is great, she makes it easy to camp near the POC for all the later stages.

>>4226723
>Kefit

Best commentaries ever

>>4226716

I go Type B with both of them. Every time I play homing or magic missile I'm always disappointed.

not OP, but i haven't beaten any of the extra stages before

does the extra stages have additional ending scenes? if so, which is the easiest extra stage to practice on?

>>4226716

Marisa B.

>>4226712

Granted, but why does everyone find SoEW so hard? The first three bosses are easy, and so are the stages. That left enough lives and bombs to counter Marisa and Mima's bullshittest moves, for me...

>>4226740

I vote SA.

>>4226728
>>4226733
>>4226742
Thanks for the advice.

>>4226742
I don't like to bomb-spam personally.
And HOLD SHIFT FOR FOC--wait fuck

>>4226732
>Kefit
>Best commentaries every.

No kidding!

Seriously, these are golden.

ZUN has subtly hinted within his games that th13 will be a HRtP remake. I believe this shall be so.

>>4226758
EoSD lunatic run commentary was my favorite, especially the one where he died during scarlet gensokyo and EARSPLITTING SCREAM

>>4226712
Fuck Meira.

>>4226763
He has?

>>4226763
[citation needed]

>>4226740
>>4226747

SA? Really?

Maybe I just need more practice on SA, but I can reliably beat IN's Extra (often w/ last word!), but I can barely get to the boss in SA's Extra, let alone past the first few of her attacks.

...yeah, I probably just need more practice...

Regardless, my vote goes for IN's Extra. Perfecting it to the degree I have was such a satisfying experience. I'm currently working on a no deaths run. That won't be easy.

>I don't like to bomb-spam personally.

Huh. I just do what works. Because it works. I just 1cc'd LLS earlier today with Marisa, for example. I did not dodge a single attack of Reimu's, partly because I hadn't fought her before, partly because I had like 7 lives, and it worked. Seriously though, Reimu seems as hard as both Yuuka fights combined, if not more...

>>4226788
You aren't pro until you do a NO DEATHS NO BOMBS NO MOVEMENT ALICE run like that one guy

>>4226788
>>4226747
thanks

how about the extra ending scenes? do they exist, or are there only ending scenes after stage 6?

gotta love bomb spam in IN: bomb, bomb, bomb, border, extra life, die, repeat

>>4226788

It's difficult to perfect SA's stage, I think, but not as much to get to Koishi with max possible resources. Well, it's the one I've put the most time into, so I'm biased...

>>4226769
> Kefit vs Flandre
Haha, I was *almost* going to mention that! I'm glad you did!

Yeah, that video was fucking hilarious (if you can forgive the unfunny idiot who calls himself Mookie, who nevertheless serves the worthy purpose of distracting Kefit).

What I like best about the video is how Kefit vocalizes what goes through a typical Touhou player's mind while they're playing the game.

I wish I could beat Flandre ;_;

>>4226757

>I don't like to bomb-spam personally.

Yeah, me neither.

It seems so defeatist that non-IN touhous practically *encourage* you to bomb certain difficult cards BEFORE you get hit.

I bet ZUN got a lot of negative feedback on IN's death-bombing window, which is a pity. Personally, I might scale it back on Hard/Lunatic difficulties, and even a *little* on Normal, but not remove it entirely like he did.

>>4226801

Maybe I'll give Koishi a shot...

I *really* want to beat Flandre, but that shit scares me.

(OMFG, I seriously LOVE her wings, though)

I use bombs to get rid of patterns that aren't pretty enough.

>>4226833
>I use bombs to get rid of patterns that aren't pretty enough.

THIS.

...wow... that's such a perfect touhouism ^_^

>>4226833

Everything ZUN does is beautiful, heretic. Fuck you.

>>4226723
Nope, this is my first time really trying extra stage.

How does one pronounce Flandre anyway? I've always wondered

>>4226934
frandle

>>4226906

You can do it!

FREN-du-lay.

>>4226934

"Flan".

Alternatively, "Fu - ran - do - re", I believe.

(Rhymes with "You - can - mo - day")

(The pronunciation of english-ized Japanese isn't immediately obvious to those who studied it, which is stupid. Katakana FTW.)

>>4226957

Ah, I prefer this answer to my answer, above.

>>4226939

I love Sakuya's disapproving expression :)

>>4226952
Thanks! The tip about the safe spot really helped, especially since it's not an obvious one.

>>4226979
But why is it フランドール instead of フランドーレ?

>>4226996

Glad that helped!

Don't let yourself become content with that safe-spot, though. It only works with Reimu's small hitbox, and it's not the flashiest way to get past that death fairy.

>>4227048

>>4226934


Flon-drah, fuck the japanese/correct prnounciation.

>>4227048

I might very well have been wrong, since it's been years since I took my 3 semesters of Japanese... ;_;

I mentally pronounce it "flændreɪ" lol IPA and I know it's wrong.

>>4227116

I mentally pronounce it "Flander Ray"

>>4227116
I say it like Fran Doll.

æ is the 'a' in can/and/sand etc right?

>>4227157
Yep.

>>4227157
ae is pronounced like a long 'e' more or less.

Fran dray. Like that one doctor.

Jesus. More proof that Americans are fucking retarded.

You just fucking can't pronounce things like they are spelled, but have to "englishize" it with your retarded way of speaking.

I mean, a word like "Flandre" pronounced by a normal person sounds very much like how it is spelled, but "Flandre" coming from an English speaking person would probably be some fucking abomination like "Flan-doo-ray" or something retarded like that.

Go learn how to talk properly, American faggots.

>>4227541

>>4227541

Frandle.

>>4227048
Because ZUN is a troll.

>>4227541

>>4227541
I'm American and I pronounce it 'flan,' as in food, and the beginning of 'dreidel.' Am I good enough for you, foreign filth?

>>4227541
Your argument is invalid because French.

>>4226685
There's no need to justify anything. The fact that a game, any game, is easier than others of the same guy isn't a bad thing. At all.

What's so hard about pronouncing Flandre.
Flan like the treat. Dre like Dr. Dre.
Americans don't have mute e, so they can't use it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flandre

FUCK

It's hard for Americans to pronounce Flan-dreh without laying emphesis on RRR and EII.

>>4228269
Flandre is named after the political community of the Flemings?

>>4228269
>>4228306
...I think I'm going to call her "Flanders" from now on.

Deathbombs in IN are ridiculous. They reward you for getting hit (when focused, which is most of the time). Rather than trying to outlast a spellcard and only bombing when you think there is no escape from death, you can choose to deathbomb to almost instantly win. For those cards you just can't beat, the two bomb penalty for deathbombs is generally a safer investment than the potential 2 or 3 weak focus bombs you might waste just trying to survive.

Not to mention the boring repetitive non-boss bullet patterns that are almost identical throughout the entire game.

This is now a learn-to-say-flandre thread

http://upodn.com/phun.asp

>>4228460
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So, uh, while this is here, how the fuck does one clear Honest Man's Death? I've been looking closely at videos and still can't see how you can beat the laser.

>>4228460
əɹpuɐlɟ

Why don't you guys ask Microsoft Sam how to pronounce Flandre?

>>4228486
say flandre

>>4228486
Laser gains hitbox only when it reaches the spot the player was when it first appeared. Move a bit towards the laser after it appears to avoid it completely.

>>4228498
I....what.

Bullshit.

Flandre is a french name, damn it.

>>4228502
I don't know if he's got thew details right, but the laser doesn't have a hitbox in the first few frames, you can just go through it. The difficulty is in timing your move.

>>4228493
Fuck, when Sam says it, it sounds like a mans name.

Flon-dray.

So.. Mr. Flandre?

>>4228502

Yeah, I wasn't to happy about that when I learned it either.

I would have preferred that you had to opposite of the laser's direction, as it was passing through you.

...in fact, that's how I dodge it, 'cause moving early just looks lame.

Furandouru

>>4226605
IN ironically had one of the hardest extras.

Even more ironically, UFO had one of the easiest.

It turns out I was pronouncing her name correctly even prior to this thread.

Fuck yes

>>4226801
Koishi's stage part isnt that hard to perfect, once you run through it the 100 or so times to beat Koishi, motherfucking genetics.