/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>tfw no christmas ona gf

What do I do if an onahole eats up a shit ton of lube? I think the lips/entrance is scraping the lube off my dick or something. Always feels dry after a few thrusts. I've been using and always have used Onatsuyu if that matters.

Need recommendation for a most realistic feeling onahole.

Here are my infos

- Virgin Man in his 50s armed
- Penis size (erected): 4.5 inches length, 5 inch girth.

Thank you.

>>42117907
Venus real soft. It's a pretty big onahole though, so you probably won't be able to bottom it out if that matters to you.

>>42117928
Thank you very much. The Tomaxe Venus Soft has been added to my shopping cart.

Here are my thoughts after using the MRL Hailey, for reference I'm about 6.1 inches long and I pass the toilet paper roll test
>huge tits, almost enough to fit my palm so good for touching and squeezing and big enough to give yourself bad paizuri, only covered half my dick
>tunnel has lots of small soft ridges, feels ok, not overly stimulating but not unnoticeable
>hard ring and uterus chamber at the end
>tunnel is very tight
>like jesus christ it's tight, had to use a lot of lube and stretch her legs apart just to get inside
>uterus ring was even tighter, couldn't get the head of my dick past it
>even putting that aside the tunnel is short, could only get half my dick in before I hit the ring and when I stick my index finger in it easily reached the back without squishing the torso down
>also a pain in the ass to dry because it's so tight, had a lot of resistance getting a standard size drying stick past the uterus ring
Overall I'm disappointed with it, I like the giga tits and the way they feel and being able to half paizuri the thing is fun but the tunnel definitely feels like it was made for smaller guys, hopefully I'll be able to break it in if I keep using it and my experience will change but for now if you're even a little above average like me It's a let down

>>42117842
Try a thicker lube, those take longer to dry out

>>42118138
These torsos always looked like a meme, especially for the cost. I'd rather buy an onahole or go all the way with a doll but torsos seem like a shitty compromise and they end up being slightly bigger onaholes with weirdly proportioned tits and ass that don't really do anything Also, don't use drying sticks wtf? Just get a cheap aquarium pump.

>>42118211
Aquarium air pumps take forever, I know because I fell for the meme over the summer and bought one, now it's sitting in a closet
I don't know what your problem with drying sticks is but you sound like a dumb ass when you come in yelling about them and shilling air pumps
Anyway the other MRLs I have are all solid and I have 2 more new ones to try out which I'll be doing over the next few days and posting my thoughts

>>42118238
>you sound like a dumb ass when you come in yelling about them and shilling air pumps
I'm trying to help you. Nothing about my post was confrontational or offensive, I didn't even call you a name. I know you have buyers remorse from your post but that's not a reason to lash out at an anon for trying to help you. I use an aquarium pump I got off Amazon for like $10 on my dolls and it work fine, if you weren't able to get it properly working then I'm sorry. Good luck, dude.

>>42118269
>all this projection
Lord you're that retard that flies off the handle when he hears anything he doesn't like that's been shitting up the past couple threads
Put a trip on so we can filter you or just fuck off, I'm done with you and don't respond to me

>>42118238
Drying sticks don't work for most holes, especially ones with hard to get to places, aquarium pumps cover everything. Sure it takes time but you literally just leave it there and go do something else.

>>42118238
In your opinion which mrldoll is the best? I'm about the same length but do not pass the toilet paper test. I specifically have on my list:
https://www.mrldolls.com/products/sex-doll-for-men-realistic-anime-love-doll?spm=..index.product_list_1.1 and
https://www.mrldolls.com/products/anime-figurine-masturbator-onahole?spm=..index.product_list_1.8
I've never purchased an onahole before though nor a stroker made of silicone so I'm a bit hesitant on pulling the trigger.

>>42118238
>Aquarium air pumps take forever, I know because I fell for the meme over the summer and bought one, now it's sitting in a closet

You're just a dumbass that can't take in information. You're always asking questions about your dolls and have to be answered multiple times before you understand. like when you asked about a nail falling off and what glue to use like 4 times. Its probably still not been glued back on lol.

If you asked about pumps you will have been told it takes a few hours and yet you bought one and expected it to be instant.

Got this coming on Friday. The Hallelujah 072 was my first Torso/Hip toy and it bullied the shit out of my dick and it's easily top 5 best Onahole I used

Hoping this one does the same

>155 cm silicone Sasha
Muh dick. This body has unlimited potential

>>42119787
I have a Ling, the tunnel is long enough to take my entire dick and it has 4 big bumps just past the entrance that will give you most of your stimulation, it's not my favorite but its solid
My favorite I've the ones I've used so far is the Lanlan
For a first ona though I would suggest the ZXY, it's less expensive and its TPE so it's softer and it's interior feels closer to real pussy, you can get a good session with it and build up to a really good nut, the stiffer holes are kind of designed to milk the cum out of you so you'll nut right away if you aren't careful
https://www.toydemon.com/masturbators/onaholes/meiki-no-syoumei-05-zhang-xiao-yu
>>42117907
Anon if you're still around and looking for a realistic hole see the link I posted

Has anyone tried sewing a torso doll? I have a sewing machine and want to try making my own Nui/Meiki eventually but I don't know where to start.

I'll always shill the 17 lbs Paloqueth torso doll for people who want a torso. 99 bucks, just a little more expensive than a Fleshlight. You get a nice body to fuck and crazy-stimulating goles, and that's about it. Don't expect anything fancy like paizuris because the tits are hard as rocks.

>>42121180
Like making a plush torso then sticking an ona inside?
Raggedy Anon modifies pre-made stuffed dolls that way and gives them bigger asses and stuff, if he sees this he might be able to help you

The Mouth of Truth Perorin fucking HURTS man. It hurts so bad I literally can not use it. The original MoT also scratched my dick up but thst felt nice, this is just pain and my dick is average.
Rotating it 180 degrees makes it much more manageable but then it doesn't feel like much of a blowjob onahole snymore.

>>42121328
maybe try more lube. i use a big glob or sometimes two of magic eyes il primo baccio and put a towel underneath me cause it gets sloppy.
if you got the "hard" texture it is pretty unforgiving, but i love rough throatfucking so i'm probably biased.
alternatively try coconut oil. it'll wear faster but the experience is worth it imo. or leave something inside it for a while to stretch it out a bit.

on that note
>decide to give tomax lilith uterus regular another shot
>use coconut oil cause it chafed like a motherfucker last time and i'm not very impressed with the toy anyway so i don't care about wearing it out
>still pretty disappointing and awkward to use but much more usable at least
a hard outer shell would make this a lot better. the entrance is so tight it gives a sort of "lips that grip" sensation on the outstroke, but it's hard to maintain the right lubrication level for that and the whole toy is so long and floppy i have to hold it with both hands to get any actual stroking motion, otherwise the entrance just vice grips the base of my dick while the top half barely moves.

...I may have gone overboard.
>free 5-10 day shipping
>still expected to arrive by friday
hallelujah, merry christmas to me.

now the only question is, do I try vibrator DP first, or line them all up and run a one man train on them?

>parents say they'll be home in 20 minutes
>unhinge closet doors to drag out plastic wife from box
>bathe her in bathtub
>dry her up and wrap her in her towel
>carrying my plastic wife back into my room while literally 5 feet away from my brother, back turned and eyes glued on his e-reader
I enjoy the adrenaline, to be quite honest, although I really should be moving out soon.

>>42121466
Ur brother knows

>>42121466
There's no way your brother didn't notice, the upside is you established dominance by doing this out in the open and forcing him to look away and say nothing

>>42121481
>>42121578
His six senses are absolutely fucked up and I spent my entire youth being sneaky. As long as I make it sound like I'm casually walking back to my room, there's nothing to be suspicious about. Although he asked me at one point why I'm always reorganizing my closet. He still thinks it's a result of my generalized anxiety from last year.

>make casual banter with him
>haha XD he starts going on about anime stuff
>"Haha, yeah" *start vacuuming my room*
>bring down dirty laundry
>now he thinks I'm just being busy doing chores
>nonchalantly take her back into my room
>flatten out blankets on my parents' bed where I kept her until I was in the clear so they don't see indentations of a body laying there
The only times I truly fumble are when I leave pocket pussies laying out because I forget, which was twice. Hopefully I don't leave my doll laying out while I'm in the bathroom and they come home or something. But yeah, been doing this all my life. I'm practically a ninja.

>>42117907
why a fuck you want real feeling

It's a damn shame these ultra-realistic dolls are basically useless for sex because of the durability. I would love to splerg on one now that i have the funds but even the exdoll is shit for actual use. Crownpeaks tits are another great example. The only realistic looking tits on the market that also sit and sag the right way are basically useless too, every review is about how fragile they are. I'd give anything to have a big tit doll with crownpeaks style tits. Obviously silicone/tpe can't "heal" the stress of stretching/bending/rubbing etc like a human can but im curious how much of it is that or just lack of effort on manufacturers part to innovate. If enough people are buying these $5k-10k dolls, little incentive to go further.

>>42118138
is that the hailey normal version or the big version that weighs over 10lbs? either way, you might want to try mrl anna next. she's the one i like best out of the 3 i have

>>42118290
nta but you sound like that troll that's been trying to stir shit up where there wasn't shit to begin with. begone creature

>>42121328
thanks anon you made me want to try the perorin now

>>42121753
That's the normal Hailey, I'll try to keep the Anna model in mind if I decide to get more the next time they have a sale

>>42121466
i guess first question is why are you taking her to the bathtub to begin with? there's 0 reason you can't do all your cleaning and doll maintenance in your room with a douche, soap, a powder sock, and a microfiber. you're just increasing the chances your doll gets fucked up by being in a slippery ass tub, or fucking your own back up, or rusting the skeleton from water getting in through a hole somewhere

>>42121818

>>42121818
I don't have a douche or powder sock(?), but I do have a water pump. It's an AIO, so there's no entrances for the skeleton to rust. I just don't wet her head so the water doesn't get into her eyes. Bathrub is pretty low so I don't have to make any big steps. Some liquid soap and hot water, all I have to do is pump her full of water a few times to get her as good as new.

>>42113920
Got any pictures of your Akira doll?

>>42122487
I do but not many and I didn't put much effort into them. The few I have I've reposted already.

>>42121760
it is. just report them and move on. best we can do.

>>42117842
I feel like Onatsuyu changed up the formula because it never used to dry up for me until I started buying it recently.

>>42121432
post how you like them when they arrive, I'm thinking of buying puni ana dx kiwami

>>42122982
>looks like they'll all be shipping at once
>mfw walking out of the ups store with a 40+ lb box of pussy and ass
I've got $60 worth of bonus point too, will probably grab the gokusai uterus moonshot unless anyone has suggestions for a better uterus sleeve

>>42122565
i tried it for the first time recently and it was usable but stickier and faster drying than my il primo baccio
i've got a bottle of meiki bliss on the way and plan to try k-lube soon

Ok I know at least one of you fuckers have made recorded yourself fucking your dolls.

Post it now.

>>42121432
You are among men who have invested tens of thousands of dollars in sex toys. Why, one of my spare rooms is a practical fucktoy gymnasium. I consider your purchase here well thought out and quite respectable. Plunge gleefully from here good chap. You deserve it.

>>42121737
That one time I was home alone and left my body pillow in my room with my door open and my sister came home while I was in the bathroom cleaning myself... I think I dodged it by putting it near my wardrobe and you couldn't really see it unless you walk inside the room.
My mom has definitely seem some onas I have though, I have gotten lazy with putting them in more hidden places and just put some of them under some pants in a drawer and pretty sure she went in there to put away other pants.

>>42123156
>Ok I know at least one of you fuckers have made recorded yourself fucking your dolls
I did, once, but the only place I could put the camera so it wouldn't capture my face gave a really terrible angle so I deleted the video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZ3oNC3uNuk

>>42123156
no

>>42123190
it was about $750 altogether which isn't too big a deal for me, but I've never owned a hip before and now I have four lol, hopefully I like them.

>>42123283
Yeah I did that then suddenly dolls. Expensive hobby for sure. The good news is disposal is a pain in the ass. So if you get into dolls your cash flow will be blocked by needing to cut one up. If it wasn't for that I'd probably be broke. They're so much fun.

>>42123367
dolls are #2 on my list of big purchases to make, directly below buying my own house (which at this rate will take me another 6-12 months, work's been busy)

>>42123374
Fun hobby. Time consuming, you really do have to put a good 10-30 minutes in maintenance each use - usually. You can get away with less and there's short cuts. As an also busy person this is my big gripe. Def stay focused on the finances as good dolls is like good pussy: see you later everyone I am fucking busy.

Serious question, why are onaholes so taboo even among supposed otaku? I can share doujins and nobody bats an eye but the moment I share an onahole it's weird.
>>42118138
Why does the box art look like Oda Non suddenly got a bakunyuu fetish? Could have fooled me it was him if it wasn't for that.

Should I get drunk and high before sexing my doll, or just high? I heard being drunk numbs your senses, while being high enhances it.

Not a chronic drinker or user. I just do it for the coom. Gonna take a shot or two of tequila and pop a gummie.

>>42123428
if you mean physically then how about I blow my nose in your cereal

>>42123444
Online, I have no friends in real life to share holes with.

>>42123441
Alcohol numbs. Some people like it ymmv. For me it's cannabis, viagra, and caffeine. I like to spend an evening playing around not just 30 mins.

>>42123458
We're here online. What's the problem? I like onaholes. We're in an onahole thread.

>>42123464
Outside this thread, when not posting anonymously.

>>42123469
I don't know why I'd want to have discussions outside this thread when this thread is here. But, since you asked, generally people do not enjoy talking about private sexual matters online. If this doesn't make sense to you much of personal preference doesn't make sense to other people. It's personal. Generally, personal behavior and fetishism is considered private. Since fetishism can be offensive or rude this is typically a best practice to have. This fits the majority need while allowing the minority to speak freely in places where the rules clarify this behavior as acceptable.

>>42123489
But sharing pornographic doujins is fine?

>>42123441
>drunk
No, it numbs, you can give yourself whiskey dick, and the loss of coordination means you won't even really get a good session in
>high
Go for it, I eat some thc gummies and wait for those to kick in before fucking my dolls sometimes, I get a good tingle all over and every physical sensation is enhanced so fucking feels amazing
Cleaning her afterwards while still high sucks though but cuddling afterwards is great

>>42121149
Thank you very much, bookmarked and added the "meiki-no-syoumei-05-zhang-xiao-yu" to my wishlist.

>>42123428
Lots of people have a deep seated shame when it comes to sex and while sharing some porn and saying how hot a girl is is fine getting into the nitty gritty talking about jerk technique or ona textures or whatever is going to far for most people and makes them embarrassed and uncomfortable

>>42123441
>image
didnt do anything for me but i started laughing at the christmas wrappings for some reason

Also being drunk dulls the senses. Whiskey Dick is real. plus after orgasm while drunk i cant really do anything for like 5 minutes and often pass out after that
And depends on what you get high on. sativa weed makes my tick and balls tingle and the orgasm feel so electic. tangerine dream is my favorite sativa strain

>>42123515
Correct. In the community you are thinking of individuals want to share doujins. They do not want to think about you masturbating.

So due to a shipping mishap I have two of the same hanidoll torso. Is there a good place to sell secondhand but still technically new toys like this? Also I'm in San Diego if some random anon wants to buy it off me

>>42123843
forgot image, It's this one. The one I'm keeping feels pretty damn nice, and is perfect size to use basically as a fuckable dakimakura

>>42123860
is it an insertable vagina?

>>42123843
The doll channel sells used stuff, you could try getting in touch with them and see what they'll give you for it, if this shipping mishap meant you got it for free that might be a good option to get some cash for it instead of dealing with private buyers directly

>>42120616
What a coincidence. I just got her today. Even more coincidentally, she's also my first toy. I gotta say, the box is really big. I wasn't expecting that.

>>42123923
integrated vagina and ass. Anal with it is the go to for me.
>>42123959
Cool thanks, and yeah it was an ebay order that got cancelled and refunded, but then showed up anyways

>>42120616
What a coincidence. I just got her today. Even more coincidentally, she's also my first toy. I gotta say, the box is really big. I wasn't expecting that.

>>42123860
that's right up my alley but unfortunately i'm on the other end of the country RIP

>>42123367
tell me about it. i bought the new taimanin sakura boob onahole this summer with the skirt and nice details. now 3 $200 mrl figurines and a fucking $2k doll on the way.... fml

>>42123428
a sizable portion of the US population was happy about roe v wade being overturned, there's people that still think a magical fairy man known as good lives in the sky, and boobs on tv are worse than people dying. we're very much modern day peasants with backwards views, just more toys now

>>42124173
Hey, don't feel too bad. There's another sizable grouping that thinks the sum of all equations can be distilled into buzz words like "magical fairy" - and that risky, life altering surgical procedures (due to reckless behavior) are no big thang nigga. What can you do? Stupid people have no idea they are stupid. Gotta just move on and try to help who you can.

uhm, guys i think my the chinks that made my doll gave me an std. its been a month of owning my torso and lately my dick has been feeling itchy, primarily the tip of the 'skin. its a constant itch, and its not really intense but its irritating sometimes. i don't see anything wrong with my tip. is it just an allergic reaction?

>>42123441
done it high and done it buzzed. both are great but might cancel each other out if done together. for those that discourage drunk sex are the ones that gave themselves whiskey dick. drink until you feel a bit numb but can still walk to the fridge without falling over completely. for me thats called being buzzed and its great because i last longer since my senses are dulled, but can still get erect. getting high is kind of a kill for me, because if i get too distracted i end up losing my boner.

>>42124257
May be an allergy may be irritation from abrasion. You should see a urologist and be honest with them about sex toy use. Remember, you're not the guy with a strange foreign object that needs to be exrayed. They can help you diagnose the allergy.
>because if i get too distracted i end up losing my boner
10mg viagra every now and then will fix this quick

>>42124257
you probably just chafed it, take a break for a couple days and bathe regularly and thoroughly
alternatively, this insanely cold and dry weather hitting this winter has personally had my skin so dry i've caught myself flaking, i started throwing wet towels over my radiators and now my room is like a sauna most of the time lol
alternatively try moisturizer cream or coconut oil
I swear i'm not trying to shill coconut oil but this shit does wonders for my skin

>>42124257
The glycerin in lube dries out skin, use some lotion dumbass

>>42124282
>>42124299
its hard to believe its caused by an allergy, i've used the venus real soft ona with the same lube and it hasn't caused this. it could be the chafing, sometimes i'll spoon her and just stick my dong between her thighs and just dry hump, i didn't think much of it since i'm uncut and use plenty of baby powder on her. i shower regularly, but i'll start applying lotion down there as well. idk why some of you guys are afraid to recommend stuff, like i said before its only shilling when its the only thing you talk about and spam it every thread

>>42124299
>you probably just chafed it
I'm going to make dickstick for chapped dicks and you are all gonna pay me money for it. Brilliant!
>>42124349
sex toys are soft or can seem soft but have very small particles lingering. That may be some of the problem or it could be you're just rubbing yourself raw. You could have an abrasion that is becoming irritated or chronically irritated (look up chronic conditions). Either way you should clean the toy very well, check for embedded material, and take a rest guy. Go back to basic stroking or nofap for a bit.
>baby powder
This can do it. You have mucosal membranes to protect bruh. This might be irritating my dick now that I think about it. Further research is required.
>lotion
This may make it worse. Try coconut oil which is antimicrobial and probiotic. Yes it can be both.
>idk why some of you guys are afraid to recommend stuff
jfc dude you want me to take you out to dinner too?

>>42124150
oooOoo... congrats... what doll anon? $2k is a good number for today's market.

>>42124459
i'd buy that for a dollar!
>jfc dude you want me to take you out to dinner too?
huh? what are you trying to say here? i was just pointing out that people seem to confuse "shilling" with "recommending", but since you're inviting.....

>>42124900
I get it. I use "shilling" like "recommending" because it's more fun. It's snark but some folks mistake that as literal. etc. etc. etc.

t bh I think it'd be really weird to hang out with doll bros. Like... what we have in common are expensive sex toys. I want to hang out with chicks for that lol.

>>42124981
isn't that how some friendships are formed? somestimes they start off with having one thing in common, then as time goes on you learn more about each other and find more things in common or find out you share similar opinions about subjects.... anyhow, work on that dick chapstick. sounds like a million dollar idea

>>42125015
lmao idk similar opinions on cars, sports, dolls... I think for sure guys are gonna mog other guys with their dolls someday. That'll be fun banter. If you had a 160cm silicone Akira I'd be jelly af.

>>42125047
i have plans to eventually get her, akane, or irokebejin. i want to try and get a real gf before i settle for a doll

>>42125089
Get the girl. If she's not intimidated by a doll great. She probably will be and while her giant dildo won't be up for discussion my sincere advice is you stfu about it for the sake of happiness.

>all this drama cause I said "shilling" and didn't even mention a brand
sorry maybe i'm the sperg, i only said it cause i've mentioned it in basically every post i've made ITT

>>42125047
i'd post car but i've already leaked too much persec in this thread

>>42125184
What drama? It's pretty clear when you've been talking to yourself since you don't capitalize "I" when you type and no one has ever gotten up in arms over lube recommendations. Much ado about nothing.

>>42125252
do you respond to every post ITT sperganon?

>>42125267
>typing style pointed out
>immediately creates some boogeyman in his head to freak out about
Got any other crazy accusations you want to make or do you want to rein in your autism and just have a chill conversation with anons without trying to make yourself the center of attention?

>>42125184
I am getting a bigger place eventually and I plan to have a few amenities. First, a really great jacuzzi tub. Second, I want an entertainment space where I can put a $2-3k sex doll to greet my friends. I haven't figured that out yet but I'm thinking a 4-wall custom plexiglass setup with led lighting. Maybe next to a pool table and some OG arcade cabinets. Real ones. I got a 110" projection screen to put in there already. I'm fortunate to have the kind of friends that would just laugh and envy. Probably do an Irokebejin or similar size. Anything bigger and I'll want it in the bedroom. It would be super cool to have a really well sculpted silicone doll though.

>>42125296
I haven't responded to any of my own posts ITT and I do use the singular capital I

new wig is here and i am erect

>>42125368
Cute, you post her a decent amount but I never asked what kind of doll she is

I've found some old debit gift cards lying around but I've never used them for a purchase that was beyond the amount on the card, at least not online. Dumb question, I know, but would I run into any issues using those to cover say 50-100 dollars of a purchase then pay the rest with my regular card?

>>42125395
usually they expire after a period, so they may not be worth anything
otherwise you should be good if you can find a retailer that will let you split costs, or a way to combine them

a little bantz is good for your health no need to stress so hard guys

>>42125395
Transfer the balance off the prepaid card over to your bank account, you should be able to do that from the cards online portal

>>42125368
>>42125386
yea who dis? I am ... also partial to elf pussy...

>>42125407

>>42125386
got it on amazon years ago before amazon went tits up in 2020

>>42125415
>the real battle to be had

>>42125428
TPE is the right choice
buy another doll if you're so great

>>42125440
I can't I mean I have the money but I don't know how I'd sneak it in to the side of my mom's closet she lets me use.

>>42125452
i meant durability is a problem for poorfags but that mental image is hilarious

>>42125459
nigga I can't buy anymore dolls I'm out of room they need a recycling service or some shit goddamn

why does onahole lube dry out so quickly

>>42125500
what lube/hole are you using?

>>42125509
Onatsuyu Pussy Juicy Lotion

>>42125500
Because you either aren't using enough or you're using a very thin lube
Thicker lube lasts longer but had a slimier feel to it

>>42125521
i believe you're the 4th anon ITT to complain about that particular lube, myself included

>>42125527
>>42125526
>>42125521
I'm using a puni ana dx btw

Why don't you just get some legit lube brand instead of all of these random loli pussy juice off-brands? It's just lube, not an onahole.

>>42125748
I use both so I don't need to add as much water sometimes. Regular personal lubricant on its own is nowhere near as satisfying. It's not even close.

Been hearing alot of good things about the Lilith uterus and planning get it, or is there a better product from TOMAX that /ona/ would recommend?

How much of a difference does the soft/regular/hard have? is the soft option too soft to feel the uterus at the end?

>>42125748
onatsuyu is a very normal lube brand in japan

>>42123959
Turns out the doll is too cheap for it to really be worth it for them or me with that. It's only like 220 on amazon. Those sellers are kinda sketch though.
Where would you guys suggest going to try to find someone local to sell this thing to? Like I can't imagine craigslist is good for this but there has to be something out there

>>42123843
>Also I'm in San Diego
The gay area, rich area, or chollo area?

>>42125934
Rich I guess. I'm like 20 minutes north of the city itself in Encinitas

>>42125932
Fetlife maybe? You're from a big city so there should be locals there, but it's not really a market site
This is an instance where I actually would suggest checking out the doll forum, they have a buying and selling board so that's another option for you

Lilith uterus (soft) arriving in a few hours, looking forward to it.

>>42125932
sell it on ebay.

>>42125973
I'll try those, thanks. If it doesn't work I guess I can just sleep sandwiched between them. But only one has a head so that'd be incredibly weird.
On a related note, one of the packages came with a head and super cheap wig for some reason. Not listed anywhere on the amazon listing. Incredibly nice little bonus on an already shockingly cheap deal.

>>42125950
I would buy it from you, but I don't want to meet an anon.

>>42126063
Neither do I dude but cheap is cheap. I'd be willing to let it go for like 150 bucks, and drive it out. Still got the original packaging, bag, and box of terrifying chinese accessories, like a turbo sketchy usb hole warmer.

>>42123843
>>42126089
Definitely considering. If you could ship it to the Bay Area, I'd buy it off of you.

I would say sell it on TDF, but they'd probably consider that a loli doll

>>42126117
at that point shipping would probably almost as much as the doll itself, unfortunately. I can probably only sell it as far as I can reasonably drive.

>>42126089
>turbo sketchy usb hole warmer.
I would just throw that bit away before selling it to anon, I've gotten a few of them as extra gifts and they are all accidents waiting to happen

>>42126137
It's hilariously blatantly dangerous, but if an anon wants to burn their house down who am I to deny them?

>>42126136
Makes sense, forgot how expensive shipping is.
>Hanidoll
>https://www.hanidoll.com/products/h3877?cfb=base_similar_rec%3Abase_similar%3Av1&scm=spz_rec.v1_product.title_view_hot.&ssp=spz
Man, every day, I discover yet another brand. 166cm for only 700 bucks, that's kind of insane. There has to be a caveat to it?

>>42126164
the caveat is that it's pretty cheap quality. Like the torso I got looks nice but the holes are literally just kinda drilled into the tpe and everythings just a bit janky. But these 200-400 dollar dolls they've got seem like perfect starter dolls to see if you even like having a doll to sleep with, and see how awkward cleaning and fucking one is going to be for you. Mine was only 200 bucks and I learned that I really want better holes as a big driving factor. The ones in that cheap hanidoll feel decent but aren't super detailed in terms of texture.

>>42126164
>There has to be a caveat to it?
I have 2 dolls from them, these bitches are heavy for their size and dont have all the new tech, my big one has the skeleton on the right and my little one has the skeleton on the left, and I guess hole texture really varies between models since this anon
>>42126169
says his isnt great but mine are as good as most of the onas I've used, maybe it's a torso vs doll difference?
And before anyone asks no I didn't cut my girls up to see their skeletons, I found this pic elsewhere

>too lazy to put on my doll's wig
>falling in love with my bald plastic wife
I'm definitely gonna acquire a taste for bald women down the line.

>>42126205
I just have higher standards for onaholes I think. I need ultra high detail dick destroyers to really feel like an onahole is worth it for me. Things that most people consider way too stimulating or convoluted are right up my alley, and it seems like most doll makers aren't exactly putting labyrinthian pussies on their dolls.

>>42126281
Oh, I guess I might as well ask this. do the wigs fall off easily or are they pretty secure?

Tonight we have the MRL Yua
>first thing right out of the box is this one is soft, almost feels like TPE, props to MRL on this silicone blend
>tight but stretches well, took me in without issue and clung to my dick
>tunnel textures start with a ring of nubs then a length of ridges, ending with another ring of nubs that are larger and tighter than the entrance, kind of a psueso uterus ring
>tunnel also stretches enough that I was able to bottom out but from her stomach to clavicle would bulge out when I had my dick in her
>tits felt nice but to small to really do anything with
>but oh lord those hips and thighs, very well formed and nice and thick for her size, made great handles to grab onto and just pump away
Overall very happy with this one and it might be my new favorite MRL, the softness combined with how tight it is is a huge plus, the textures aren't anything crazy so if you want a dick bully this isn't it but if you want something soft with a medium level of stimulation for an extended session that still has enough sensation to easily carry you over the line when you want to cum then this is it

so I'm a total beginner with this. Do you guys have any recommended brands/links to what conditioning powder to use for tpe dolls?

Should I go for a 130cm silicone doll that I can get express delivery on (about a week) or should I go for a 150cm TPE doll that will take a couple of months to arrive? I'm not sure if 130cm is big enough or will just feel small, also not sure if TPE or silicone is more enjoyable....

>>42116753
Has anyone had any good experiences with plush dolls? I feel like buying myself a doll for Christmas but I also want something soft to cuddle with.

>>42127720
What kind of plush? A human or furry?

>>42127805
Human

>>42127720
Something life size or chibi.

If you want life size anime girl look up happiness doll.

If furry look up kemono hime or how to commission a plush artist to make you something custom.

If chibi look up the 80cm anime plush doll.

>>42125468
This you? Goes pretty hard.

>>42127658
I personally would like one day to get that 130cm silicone model myself i think she looks very cute. So if you get that one pls do review. I think 130cm gonna be loli af, thats gonna feel like a 9/10yo. I have heard that piper silicone is the softest one around and it can tear easy, but now they have a new formula so suposed to be better, maybe good idea getting silicone glue with it just in case. 150cm will be way heavier, the lightweight on the 130 Is a huge plus for me. 130 I can just pick up like its nothing, 150 i would be a whole workout to use it. And silicone gonna look better, more realistic. And I hate waiting for months for doll, cant think about anything else haha. Also soon is the chinees new year and they close factories for like 2 weeks if im correct. What 150 TPE did you had in mind?

>>42121466
>>42121737
how did you even get her for starters, did you wait all week the package at home and pretended you just order a bunch of small stuff and they send it on a coffin sized box?

Do I go fudoll or tayudoll
.. or piperdoll

i hope santa gets me some big ass titties for christmas :(

>>42128861
From images I've seen silicone looks more rubbery and "shiny" while TPE looks more natural, maybe it's different in real life? Never owned a doll so not sure.
I guess it being smaller makes it easier to move around but is it still as enjoyable to play around with?

>>42128975
Tough call but all nice. I would myself a few things.
Are there specific features you want? If you have one doll picked out for each is there a certain cosplay/outfits you want for her and which would it look best on? How is the price/weight/review?

TPE piper is like half the price of Tayu silicone but for different features so are you an ass man or a face man, etc. Fudoll is super pretty and it could be the effect of digital photos, as my doll looked better in person than in pictures though a different brand, but the face in a lot of their pics looks a bit more plastic. Maybe a photography effect of silicone head/tpe body causing the camera to balance weird though I don't know.

For me the tie breaker on my choices came down to the vaginal sculpt being nicer on one over the other and it being lighter weight which has been very helpful when its light and hour of so of work has happened and she needs to be cleaned and put away. (I work in an office though so I'm not exactly ripped but not terrible either)

Another trick if you have been browsing them a long time and did some JO to clear your thoughts if there is one you noticed yourself going back to each time for the last moment, then that is probably where you are leaning.

>>42128975
Ta yu weight 18 klg where others doll are 30 klg, and for sex its top tiers, for their Price its AA+, if you want a budget option then TPe piper

>>42129688
>digital photos

This is my main concern, for all I know one brand may just have a better photographer but in reality the dolls are worse

Wish they had just straight up frontal shots, no outfits, no doctored lighting.

Thansk for all the points though, I think I'm leaning towards tayu

>>42129774
I hadn't even realized how much lighter they are, thanks anon

>>42127658
who has an Aika ready to ship??

>>42129567
Yea i think silicone does look a bit more shiny. but on silicone you can have details painted on, tpe is usually 1 plain color. I have owned a 162cm tpe, currently waiting on 148cm silicone (but i've already seen her irl) the silicone looked way more realistic. I heard a guy from realdoll explain lately that painting on tpe is extremely complicated. thats why almost no one is doing it.
I think height wise 150 is better, but weight wise 130. I personally have no 130cm experience, but i heard anons say that 130cm is kinda the lowest you can go before it gets "to small". Like at 130cm the doll is tall enough that she can wrap her arms and legs around you.
>>42021653
This elf girl is 130cm i think. If i remember correctly anon once said that he enjoyed playing with her, and played more with her over the taller one because of weight. not sure, maybe he can enlighten us how enjoyable that size is.

>>42127658
What models? That means a lot more than ship time. A crappy 130cm and an excellent 150cm obviously go with the later. All things being equal personal preference first ship time second. If you love them both, why not get one sooner? But without the models none of us can really help.

>>42128861
>What 150 TPE did you have in mind
Forgot to say, i was thinking of Akira for 150cm
Aika for 130cm like in that image I posted.
>>42129973
Would the shine not make it look less realistic? I guess the shading and colouring they do on silicone might make up for it even then?
>Anon enjoyed playing with her
I think I remember seeing elf anon speak about that, it's hard to get a good idea without having seen one of these dolls in real life so that's my biggest problem i think.

>>42129825
It's some smaller local place so that's why they are fast, barely got any stock though
>>42130032
It's between Aika 130 and Akira 150

>work from home and don't make much smalltalk
>finally blogpost at my boss for a while
>"Hey you're doing great, all you need now is a girlfriend! haha"
>me, expecting a 45lb box of pussy and ass in the mail tomorrow: "lol yeah"

I can't wait for some random schmuck with enough money to commission "The Doll."

>>42130178
wrong wednesday

>>42130200
2022 Wednesday, you can definitely get Gynoid to make a decked out state-of-the-art Wednesday doll. Any other ones and you'd have to go to Catdoll for that. Not that they're bad by any stretch, but y'know. Gynoid tech shinannegans.

>>42130133
yea the shine is not that bad irl, They are using way more lighting for the promo pictures then what you have in your house. I dont think you ever need to powder silicone, but if you do the shine will go way to.
Akira vs Aika, tough choice. I would go with the aika. I think she is a like 30% lighter and if you can get her in a week that sounds really good to me. but i know a lot of anons praise akira for her ass and you would save almost like a G on tpe. But if money is not an issue i think its better to just start at silicone right away.

>>42126281
i wonder if cancer chicks are easy?

>>42126315
same here. i changed my tune when i got a doll though. there's just more senses involved that makes it more intense.

>>42126716
I feel like we need a wiki to collect reviews like this.... think how much knowledge gets lost

>>42127312
tips:
1. visit the sexdolls subreddit and search for terms like "powder" "drying" "<insert question here>
2. repeat step 1, but this time using >>/jp/
3. check out thedollchannel on. it's run by the owner of thedollchannel vendor.

as for powder, just avoid talcum. talc might perform better, but it's impossible to 100% separate talc from asbestos. they're kind of a package deal, so just go with corn starch. doesn't matter what type or brand, just pick a smell you like. if you're gonna kiss it, then don't powder the lips obviously unless you like the taste of powder aloe/vitamin E/fragrance #25234234234sdflakjsdf

>>42127658
go with the 130cm to start for sure. you will have the worst buyers remorse if you get a doll that is too big. if it's too small though, at least you can still move it to fuck it without feeling like you did landscaping all day. 130cm will feel like the real thing btw. 90cm is where it becomes more onahole with limbs territory

>>42129973
not all silicone is the same. for instance, the mrl YUA that was posted further up is silicone that appears and feels like TPE (I know because I own one too). in general though, silicone was historically more rubbery which is where this idea comes from (also the photoshoot lighting often enhances reflections). there's tons of blends nowadays though so do your research on the specific product

Haven't read the paste in a long time, saw that whole bit about oiling TPE holes. Considering how long I've had some of my holes I guess it ain't too big of a deal to have not done.
>>42123860
I would have loved this but I'm way too far out and my state will feed me to the sharks if I got a smol doll. At least that lets me save money since I can't buy a loli doll. I would love a larger titty having doll but my heart and dick lie with lolis.

>>42129801
Yea took me a longtime to decide. If money isn't an object in it then Tayu is very pretty. Fudoll I feel the faces are either exactly what someone wants or just aren't it. Piper to me are very pretty and dat ass, but only if you like the surreal look and the meh look to the entrance. Dat ass does account for a lot though and good value, but I do wish hey would update for features like articulated fingers.

>>42129973
>maybe he can enlighten us how enjoyable that size is.
She's pretty enjoyable at that size, she's big enough that you can get some real positions and go hands free after posing her but small enough that she's easy to carry and reposition on the fly, with her what I've been doing lately is sitting her on my lap and listening to assorted fucked up step daughter audio while I grope her before I slide my cock into her ass and bounce her up and down before ending up in a mermaid position
The downsides would be mostly tactile sensations, like she has big tits for her frame but they aren't that big in the hand, and that some positions are still limited or difficult because of the size difference between us, she's only a little over 4 feet tall and I'm 6'1
My larger doll definitely has the advantage in that area, her hips, ass, tits, etc are all larger and feel better to the touch and more positions are available, like I can just lean her forward a little and fuck her standing with no issue, I can't do that with the elf since she's short and things don't line up that way, the taller one is a lot heavier though and it can take a bit to get used to moving them around
Anyway for the anon that's doll shopping both sizes have their advantages and disadvantages but for your first doll I would suggest the shorter doll, 130 is tall enough to have lots of fun with and the smaller size is going to be a bonus as you get used to moving and cleaning her and what not, and then later on you can get a larger doll if you want, that's what I did
Oh and for reference the elf is 130cm and the taller one is 155cm

>>42130158
Are you EU? If US please let me know the vendor after you decide. Is the Akira silicone? If so, 100% the Akira. The latest and best tech and she is super light weight. Easily competes with 130cm Aika across the board. The full figure is easier for cosplay and the lightweight silicone is just fine for "spinning" the doll around.

Aika 130cm will be very small. I like this height as at average height myself it is just tall enough to appear like a full sized doll. And Piperdoll makes womanly figures, not kids. If you are taller than average this may be too small. This matters if you are looking to emulate realism. Another downside is the Aika onahole sculpt. Definitely get your hands on pictures of these as the anus protrudes and gapes. It looks weird. This usually only matters when you are laying on the ground staring up at the doll (i.e., never). Aika has very little fat padding so it is a little more prominent. Her silicone will be very fragile so you will want to take extra care. You don't buy Piperdolls for durability though.

The TPE Akira is heavy. If you want a fun little doll to throw around that looks like Aika then I'd go this way. But if you don't like idea that Aika may be too smol (like young teen vs. young adult) or if you don't like her onaholes the Akira TPE is legendary for a reason. Best onahole I own forget the dolls. And then her ass... I mean, it's unfucking believable. At just under 5' tall she's still a minidoll but also full sized. IMO, perfect for someone that wants a smaller but full sized doll.

>>42130273
Aikas ass looks pretty good too from the pictures I've seen, the two are pretty similar but since Aika is smaller the ass won't be ass big obviously. A bit of a shame since I do like a nice big ass
Do you just use corn starch as powder on silicone?
>>42130578
The 130 Aika is more expensive though so if I get buyer's remorse with her it will be even worse but I get what you're saying, not as much of a hassle to clean her etc.
>>42130677
Damn thanks for the info anon! Is it hard to find decent clothes for the doll of is it mostly fine just buying the small size of things? I suppose buying from Asian stores online might help a bit? Also is your dolls TPE or silicone and do you have a preference?

>>42130815
Aika squish test:

https://files.catbox.moe/4g3pa5.mp4

>>42130815
>>42130827
Akira Silicone (not TPE!) lighter weight tech. No reason to skip over an Akira silicone based on weight, imo.

>>42127658
some anon recommended this site for helping with visualizing doll height several threads back
https://www.heightcomparison.com/
might have some use for you

>>42130839
get out a tape measurer and drop to the approximate height

>>42130815
I'm EU sadly and the Akira would be TPE so maybe it would be a bit too heavy compared to the Aika?
The holes do look a bit weird but like you said you don't look at them that much so I'm guessing it would be be much of a problem.
>>42130827
>>42130833
They both look really damn good, fuck this is hard!
>>42130839
Thanks anon!
>>42130851
I've done this as well and it helps to get a general idea for sure!

>>42130874
The holes won't matter during sex but if you have her position doggy style and you're walking away and back they can be obvious. TPE Akira does the same thing anyways and can look a little odd in this position. A few inches difference in pose and she looks like a breathtaking young woman with an incredible ass. Just a weird thing about dolls.
>fuck this is hard
Yup. Knowing what I know I'd get silicone Akira and wait out the shipping. I'd get Aika if I liked her sculpt more. The only reason I haven't bought Aika is that I can't without getting silicone Phoebe. It's just wrong to separate the two after Mizuwali did that threesome set with them lol. 130cm is very smol though and it will feel that way sometimes. I have an elf doll at that height so it's awesome roleplay for me there. I'm cautioning you here a bit as if you want realism you should go for the 150cm as this is a real human height for a petite woman. For my elf girl it's like... dude, she's a fucking different species. So much fun...

You can't go wrong with a Piperdoll™.

Akira is legit.

>>42130833
>OHP's his fuck doll
You should really pop your fingers on one hand I'm the pussy and pooper and the other hand in the nose and mouth and do lat rows. Nothing gets me harder than compound exercise before creampie sex.

>>42130821
>Clothes
At 130cm I have to shop kids sizes for her, the 155cm fits most women's small sizes
For the elfs clothes the issue is going to be wont be able to find things like sexy lingerie by default but if you hone your fashion sense you can come up with some good outfits, think short shorts, tank tops, halters, crop tops, active and dance wear for tight clothes, that sort of thing
>TPE or Silicone
Both of my dolls are TPE but I have some silicone holes, generally TPE feels better to the touch but some silicone blends are soft enough to be comperable, you're looking at Pipers and I hear they have a really soft silicone blend so you should be fine either way

Something no one has brought up yet that you really need to think about is clothes staining your doll, especially if you're going to be buying cheap stuff from asia
Cheap clothes leak a lot of dye and TPE especially will absorb that if you aren't careful, silicone is a little more resistant but will still stain
What you want to do is try and avoid darks or vibrant colors, reds and blacks are some of the worst, look for whites and pastels, and whatever clothes you get you should wash them or soak them in the sink with some detergent for a while just to bleed out any loose dye, it's a hassle and you'll probably need to do it multiple times to get all the dye out of something and even then it still might stain but reducing the danger is worth it
Now all that doesn't mean you have to completely avoid those colors, just take precautions, try not to leave it on your doll for long, and especially avoid putting pressure on one of those areas if you can
Here's the elf in some dark clothes she wore for a week without getting any stains

>>42130839
welp
here I thought a 90cm might be too short
>mfw I was expecting a scaled down adult silhouette

>>42131001
>https://www.heightcomparison.com/

normies website, pls understand

>>42131001
90cm is smol bro... >>42125329

>>42131061
Yes.

>>42131065
based

is there any outlets where i can just buy the skeleton only or should i just buy the cheapest doll i can find and tear it up
i need one in 100cm

>>42131598
You could contact a manufacturer that sells a 100cm doll. idk why you just want a skeleton though

>>42131598
Judging by pics like >>42126205, you should be able to assemble something like one with a bit of work. But obviously if you don't want to put in that effort, I can't make you.

>>42130913
that looks very bad for the wrists

Did anybody in the EU order from myrobotdoll?

Does it really take 5 to 8 weeks **just for the shipping**?

>>42131802
it is. they're cheating.

Doggy resting on the elbows wouldn't be so bad, right?

>>42131965
hard surface? i wouldnt
soft surface? sure.
standing on floor elbows on bed? sure
i bought a body pillow just for this tho. doggystyle anal? sure

>>42129801
Ask for factory photos to get a better idea of the product you will actually get. You can make them look as good but you need to learn some make up and lighting skills.

>>42131644
if thats what they all look like then i may just make one myself
the shoulders, hips, and elbows in particular need to be redesigned and i would need to make my own hands anyway

>>42118706
When you guys say aquarium pump do you just mean those little things that shoot air into aquariums? Do you just stick it down the hole and leave it there for a while? I recently got the lolinco virgo and I'd give my left nut for an easier way to dry the thing

>>42131001
As someone with a fairy fetish I have used some very small dolls. They are very enjoyable in the cow girl position. Comparing standing height is different from the height difference when they are straddling your waist looking down at you while they bounce on your dick. My “play date Rapunzel is a bit shorter than 90cm but I imagine such a doll could ride cowgirl very well.

I think 18 inch dolls are about as small as I think a successful sex doll could be (assuming short stack thick portions). The smaller ones are only if you are really into onshore fairy where just the head will fit.

>>42132301
I was sitting here eating this really good pie I got kinda munchen and fucking around on the internets. As I was chewing my eye caught this post and I immediately had a vision of your gigantic ass going
>RAWWR
as you were snatching fleeing and screaming fairies out of mid air to violate them.

Dear God they would be terrified of you... like an I'm-gonna-fuck-you Godzilla. You monster!

>>42132421
No way! Fairies are magically stretchy and horny as heck. They hunger for the D.

On the left is the 11 inch doll. The smallest one I have ever penetrated. Fabric body with a rubber form underneath. Remove the hard plastic skeleton and replace it with wires to keep the legs in place. Put a tenga egg inside and fill her womb with your tip.

>>42132275
Yes to all of the above. the pump will be easier, but on the lolinco in particular it'll still be somewhat of a pita

itchy dick anon here again, i have no self control. decided to just have another go with my torso doll and i made sure to use more water than lube this time. itch went away and even after showering and applying lotion i still don't feel an itch now. was it really just a chafe?

>>42126281
I was the same way, I couldn't get the wig to not look stupid so bald it was! I ended up liking it so it worked out

>>42126569
I think they fall off easily, there's nothing to attach it to so they don't have a good hold.

Is there some chart about specific EU countries and their reaction to small scale dolls?

>>42132775
>there's nothing to attach it to so they don't have a good hold.
Use a wig cap and double sided tape
The cap is held in place with elastic and even without the tape helps a wig stay in place through fabric friction, the tape is just an extra layer to secure it, there are also wig grips that work the same way but have a more headband shape instead of a full cap

>closet is filling up with dolls
>might have to repurpose a room

>>42132717
No way dude.
>crashing through gingerbread castles
>mighty roar and beating of chest
>dragonfly wings darting and flapping everywhere
>I mean everywhere
>distant screams of fairy city population
>ahhh ahhhh run away
>RAAWWRRRRRRR
>hands swooping snatching fairies mid air
>chomping down on gingerbread while pounding poor innocent wrong place wrong time fairy
>chuck used and abused fairy who plaps defenselessly down in a sloppy mess
>quickly replaced with another
>third attack this year
this happened.

What is the best way to dispose of a doll if you don't want it anymore/want more room for new dolls?

>>42132996
Unironically carve her up into little pieces and throw the chunks away in the trash
The skeleton you disassemble and take to a recycling center, stainless steel is like 23 cents a pound

>>42132996
The best way is by taking the doll and putting it somewhere fucking hilarious and getting us pics of the results. The second best way is to dump it. The most private and secure way is to cut it up and dispose of its parts separately. Then dump the head. The easiest most accessible way I've found is cutting the doll up. Unless you have easy access to dumping and privacy to load/unload.

https://www.toydemon.com/busty-nurse
Anyone know something similar to this? My one tore and it's hard finding a replacement.

Any holes similiar to ZXY but is more durable? The inside layer always gets micro tears after a few months. I'm pretty careful when cleaning and drying it too. For my second one I just air dried it and it still got torn up. It's my favorite feeling hole but I really can't justify buying it again because the durability is shit.

>fudoll is cute
>but tayu is cute too
>all the photos are bullshit anyway
AHHHHHHHH

>>42133546
Try nitter and search the doll brand. You'll get people that are near photographers that still look like studio shots but you'll also find average joe ones too with regular lighting.

>>42133546
>>42133668
https://nitter.moomoo.me/search?q=%23tayudoll
https://nitter.moomoo.me/search?q=%23FUDOLL
use nitter.

>>42132301
I have a fetish, but it's not fairies.
appreciate your input tho

>>42132762
occasionally I get an itching sensation in my urethra that won't go away for hours, usually brought on by using lube, so maybe you had the same and the water cleared it out
or maybe it was psychosomatic and you're too stressed out

>>42133083
I haven't bought a doll yet, but I plan to, and I really dread the idea of having to dismember her to dispose of her.
I'm leaning towards something with insertable holes specifically because I expect to wear them out, and want to avoid disposing of the whole doll.
probably just my oneitis rearing up again

>>42132301
Just get a toddlercon fetish that will open new doors for you

>>42133759
Inserts are terrible and tear just as much. The real killer is when a doll tears through the taint. Then it just gapes open. After that you never know. You could lose a joint. One day you could want a new doll. If you want to dispose of the one you have they're easy to cut up with just scissors. It doesn't even take that long it's just tedious. Like an hour or so of thorough cutting around. Then you fold up the frame and put it in a box or something. Chuck it in the trash. All done. And yeah there's some mixed feelings in there because you're cutting up a giant fucktoy. Sure. I promise you'll be more pissed you have to do it than that you're doing it. Least fun project ever.

>>42133779
No thanks. I’m weird enough.

I like hips and tits too much. Toddlers are shapeless and gross.

to me the key for the lube not drying up is saving your precum so it combines with the lube.

I use a thick water based gel lube but I first spray some water from a little bottle down the hole first. Any time it’s too dry I spray more water down the hole. Very little mess this way.

>>42133779
it's not even the same thing.
>>42134010
>Fairies are magically stretchy
I'm taking to this idea a bit more. But being fucked up in the head still I imagine having days where the fey go insane and send swarms of breeders out. They could care less if you're willing or not. Obviously not that strong but relentless and mischievous. You could wake up drugged and erect with tiny rope binding you to the ground like Gulliver's Travels. Or tricked into it by being lied to about fairy biology.
>the only way you can save me is to stick it in anon!
This is terrible. No wonder you destroyed their cities.

>>42133759
If you really want an insert or one doll forever then get a fabric doll. Maintenance isn’t that hard if you get one with a removable outer skin. And a few little sewing stitches can repair anything

I mean... just fairy after fairy taking their turn, using potions and magics to keep you producing for them... three or four hours at a time with more than a few angry wrestling matches over who is riding... and then the queen comes out in like some big procession and royal BDSM gear and they triple your dosage of fairydesiac potion or whatever and unbind you for the final battle with the queen who is completely undefeated...

Dude. I want to fuck a fairy.

>>42134089

I want to make one using a pattern like this with an outer skin suit and a mini ona torso for the body.

But there are things like Aiko dolls and spit back dolls.

>>42132996
Cut the tpe up into small chunks and mix it with your normal trash over a couple of weeks. Use scissors, knives are useless for this. Get a metal saw and cut the skeleton at weak points like shoulders, hips and knees, so you get a bunch of nondescript metal tubes. Dispose of them in the way you're supposed to dispose of random metal tubes in your country.

>>42134107
I'm just gonna use this as an excuse to get an 80cm Phoebe and a doctorate in genetics.

>>42134141
>in the way you're supposed to dispose of random metal tubes in your country
I can't afford a metal tube disposal ceremony anon. They don't even do ballroom rentals in my town anyways. I have to go 2 hours to the city for that and I don't own a car.

When cleaning a TPE doll people say to use slightly soapy water, but do you need to rinse it after? I haven't seen it mentioned but I can't tell if thats because they don't think it's necessary to mention because it's obvious, or if you actually shouldn't rinse with just straight water after.

>>42134178
Yes. Rinse with water. Soap residue is not good. Really only a little mild soap is needed.

General wash process
Squeeze out the cream pie into sink.

Run Cold water into the hole with a tiny amount of soap on fingers.

Wiggle fingers in the hole until the lube is washed out.

Dry using towel, dry stick, sponge stick, air pump. Check with fingers to ensure dryness.

If exterior is dirty or sticky use cornstarch powder on exterior.

>>42134216
thanks for the heads up, appreciate it

>>42131844
yup, my doll was done 5 weeks ago. They said it would take 6-9 weeks (not 5-8). I asked them if they could do it faster. they said they had express shipping at that moment 150,- eu and would take 3-4weeks. It took exactly 4 weeks from the day I approved the factory pre ship videos. not sure if it was worth the extra cash tho

>>42118138
>>42126716
Here she is, the last in this week's MRL product review, it's Anna
>soft silicone, not as soft as Yua but softer than the Hailey, Ling, Yukiko, and Lanlan that I've used
>deeper tunnel and wider hole, about on par with the Yukiko, fit me like a glove while the Yua was squeezing me for a rough idea of the size difference
>tunnel texture starts with lots of big nubs then ridges and folds and ends with another big nub cluster
>cleaning very easy due to larger size
>outside appearance very appealing to me since I love rope bondage
>softer blend also made her stomach bulge more prominent, a big plus if you're into that which I am
>thighs not as meaty as Yua, end up cupping her shoulders and squeezing her tits together with the heel of my palm, got a good hold on her that way for both pumping my hands or thrusting my dick
Overall very satisfying, while she isn't as soft or tight as the Yua the extra firmness and larger textures in the tunnel give a good amount of stimulation, particularly the ridges and folds in the center
The only downside I can see if if you are on the smaller side meaning the larger tunnel would lead to less stimulation

how long do realistic body paintings last on silicone? Is it even worth the money or does it just fade after a few months

>>42135597
If it’s Silcone paint on a silicone body it should last a very long time. If it’s makeup or stain applied to TPE then it won’t last that long.

>>42130906
Is silicone a lot better then TPE in your opinion then? I'm mostly concerned that it won't feel as good being silicone.
Do you own Akira/have any pictures of her? Would love to see some!
>>42130947
Is small size of shifts and things like that still to big for her then? That sounds like a bit of a pain but might be worth it for the ease of use of the doll.

Best womb chamber holes?
I've had a few so far but seducing witch is my favourite.
Also anyone have recommendations for the best motorized piston thing you can put your hole into?
I know some of them have patterns you can download but don't know which is best.

>>42121432
I have the hard version of that petite devil kohai. It's quite alright, but I only use it on occasion.

>>42123367
Which company makes this?
I like the face.

Has anyone used realdollx Ai app for roleplay or something? Is it worth getting?

>Fedex delivers items to wrong address
>call them to tell them what happened
>they tell me to have the shipper file a claim to resolve the issue
>the shipper is fucking Amazon JP
I'm never getting my order, am I. I would at least take a refund, but it's not even Amazon's fault. This is bullshit.

>>42133710
Whats nitter precious?

So... this thing just came out.
Is it worth 240€?

>>42137132
Link to more information??

>>42137132
Personally I'd just save up for a proper doll.

>>42137486
MotsuToys shilled this with an unsolicited "ooooOOoooOO there's a new toy coming up" mystery email that looked very cheesy.
https://www.motsutoys.com/kyo-plush-doll-dx.html#

They also gave me a generic coupon coded "DX60" for 60€ off, it expires on the 27th.

>>42137132
I don't have the same plush doll, but I have one similar in size. It's nice as a pillow, but I don't really fuck it.

>>42137650
This one has joints, though.
So I am unsure whether it will be very usable as a pillow.

>>42137132
I have the version without legs and joints, bought it a month ago.
I was skeptical at first about the opening being able to hold the onahole in place, but so far it worked fine. I do kind of expect either the cord or the fabric around the entrance to eventually get damaged beyond repair, but so far it's holding up fine.
Compared to a hip, it's much easier to do different positions.
It's also much less noisy when you fuck it, in case you don't like your neighbors hearing you every time you play with your sex toys. Obviously it's much harder to hide when you have people over, but maybe you can get her some of those black and yellow decals for the sides of her head and claim it's some old Crash Test Dummies merchandise.

I was also skeptical about it having a head, thinking it would only get in the way and make the dummy look creepier. But when I have sex with real women in missionary or prone bone, I tend to wrap one of my arms around the top of their head and hold them that way, and I instinctively ended up doing the same with the dummy's head, so it actually added to the immersion. And unlike real women, this thing doesn't complain if I collapse onto it with my entire body weight after I come.

It's also pretty comfy to just use like a pillow jammed between your legs, but I stopped doing that because I want it to last as long as possible, and it would be a pity if I were to damage it while not even doing anything sexual with it. So the joints wouldn't be something I'd worry about, but YMMV if sleeping with it is the main reason you're interested in it.

What's the point of a mouth dildo if there's no fine touch stimulation?
Oral sex for me is less about "ramming it in" and more about getting teased by a swirling tongue.

>>42137132
In terms of worth or price. That’s a fair price for a plush doll of that size and complexity. A big fun part of doll use is playing dress up and cosplay sex. Such a doll with an average body type would be easy to buy clothes for.

If you wanted to add a face the head would probably work well with a kig mask for a high end option and maybe an Air doll mask for a low end option.

I really like my large plush rag doll and that wasn’t even built for sex and has a less shapely body. If your okay with toony look a chibi doll face could probably be used.

>>42137132
I'm more interested in how you could modify the sleeve to add a dildo inside.

>>42138009
https://onahodouga.com/archives/55874879.html

>>42138132
Insert two sided dilldo into its vagina. Cinch the drawstring as tight as it goes.

>found out pure bride lolinco exists
>toydemon only carries the pure bride idealism
goddamnit

>>42138199
Motsutoys has it but they removed the packaging for obvious reasons.

this looks very interesting...

>>42138215
strange that they don't list it on their US site

Has anyone here ever tried to combine onahole play with a Hismith?
They have special straps for them.

>>42138151
Damn. does an ona exists that that licks/sucks on your balls?

>>42138290
yea, that's _A_WOMEN_

I thought people were meme-ing when they said they felt drained, but I just tried an onahole for the first time yesterday and holy fuck I've never felt so un-horny after nutting since puberty hit. It's like I turned into a priest

>>42138264
i have The Plow from extreme restraints, it came with a rubber sleeve with a hose clamp around it that's sized to hold fleshlights
it's technically feasible but there's a number of issues I had:
1. positioning myself. unless you want to stand/kneel in front of it, it's difficult to find a comfortable position where you can get a good stroke in. best I came up with was sitting on the floor with my back against my bed and setting the rear legs of the plow as tall as possible so the whole thing angles down into my lap, but then I've got to hold that position and can't move at all. a small riser to mount the plow to would do wonders.
2. positioning the plow. the motor on this thing is ridiculously fast and strong, and the mass of the frame is not very much at all, so you ideally need to strap it down to something or even better, bolt it to the floor. if not strapped down it will move around a lot, I got around this by holding the rear legs down with my feet and basically leg-locking the whole machine
3. danger. if you do slouch or move out of position too much, you're gonna get punched in the dick by a 3/4 hp motor. even if you can stay inside it, if your lube dries out you're in for a bad time very quickly.
4. noise. this is the same kind of motor you'll find in a washer/dryer/dishwasher/small lawnmower and it has none of the acoustic dampening you'd find in home appliances. use it around family and it'll sound like you're doing construction on the house.
5. stroke length. not really an issue per se, but you will need to fine tune the stroke length AFTER you're already fully hard and inside the thing, and all the adjustments are at the opposite end. hope you're flexible.

all that said when you do get everything lined up right it works very nicely and will jackhammer your dick with unrelenting force
vac-u-lok system is also great my ex kept the dildos, i kept the fucking machine lmao

>>42138264
>>42138577
i have one of the hismith ones and its doable. round poles mean you can angle it down onto you in bed or while sitting providing it has some space in front. holds random onas decently.

problem is that even tightening the strap it just dont feel as good as doing it by hand. still a fun ride and probably would work for a halfhip if you could manage to mount it and it could still move.
ive been thinking of ways to strap it to a doll to have them move a little, but i got the little violin looking hismith and its pretty anemic power wise.

out there
somewhere
my doll is in a ditch with a truckload of other gifts and items
the piercing cold probably damaged the tpe in some way. maybe the crash caused ripping or tearing

>>42135955
TPE Akira's one common complaint that I have seen is that she is a little too soft. It is true but this isn't really an issue ... at all, and her onahole is incredible. Her ass is also the most realistic I've fucked out of countless ass toys and dolls. I'm certain the silicone solves that softness issue and has all the latest silicone amenities except articulated hands. Piper went with a harder silicone blend for the hands and feet instead. I'd get silicone Akira and I'm a little pissed I can't as I plan to try a bunch of other brands out. Piper silicone is reportedly the softest blend but very fragile. You are more than good there. I would get the silicone even not having a review. Your risk with them is they're fragile and you need to be ready to repair. I have a lot of Akira pics including some of my own. Tell me what you're looking for to help your decision or if you just want sexy Akira pics.

>>42135955
>Is small size of shifts and things like that still to big for her then?
You can try it, just expect it to be really baggy and hang low
Both of these robes are a women's small size so you can get an idea of how some clothes will fit on different size dolls

heh

>>42133752
maybe? like i said earlier, it was just on the tip of my 'skin (uncut) and nowehere else. hard to believe it was the lube, otherwise it would've itched all over.

>>42133759
just keep the doll and do repair experiments on her once it's expired. you can also reuse her TPE to fix other dolls if they have similar skin tones.

inserts are the number one regret people have along with not getting standing feet. they come loose, look bad, and lube gets inside of the container hole. if you want a durable hole, get a doll without an anus and then just make sure she's always well lubed. also check thedollchannel on vimeo or youtube for tips and doll reviews.

>>42139508
Could you theoretically melt an entire doll's mass in TPE into liquid and mold a new doll out of it?

>>42139724
No because TPE will oxidize and be ruined

>>42139729
eh, that might not be true. i saw a manufacturer video where a worker was doing a 5 inch + repair with just some melted TPE in a metal tin using a blow torch. not gonna give advice on scaling this up to an entire doll but yeah. you can also use a soldering iron to smooth over TPE and put mineral oil on top to keep it from turning black (the soldering iron turns it black in parts because it's a concentrated spot of heat going across a smaller mass of TPE, so the mineral oil is needed).

>>42139278
Thanks anon this is a very useful picture, not only for the robe size but for the size difference between the two dolls.
I'm still thinking about what to get and I'll probably wait until after Christmas maybe even until after New year's before I finally decide on either. Don't want to rush into getting one and regretting things later.
You've been a huge help with all the information and pictures!

Can anyone here compare a sexdoll to an actual sexual experience? Can it help alleviate that desire? How does the skin feel to the touch? I am also a footfag and the feet on dolls dont look like they are good for fucking or realistic

>>42140205
For the safety of all anons please don't listen to this guy and try to melt your TPE together, remember that it's still plastic and melting it will release toxic fumes
If you absolutely must do it then do it outside with a breeze or fan blowing away from you to prevent inhaling anything that's going to be bad for you, you aren't a chinese factory worker and there's no need to take risks with your health

>>42140503
Good sex with a real woman > doll sex > bad sex with a real woman
Doll sex does alleviate the desire for sex with a real woman, the shape of a doll and the physical act of fucking it instead of jerking off tells your lizard brain to release all the feel good bonding chemicals
Touch wise it's about as soft as a person but smoother since they don't have hair or pores in their skin or anything like that
For you and your foot fetish dolls with standing feet are going to be a non option since those have metal bolts on the bottom, some other anon has mentioned fucking his dolls feet so it's possible but I can't speak more on it myself

>>42124349
Nice body! I want to fuck that. What doll is that?

does anyone have the copy of "the pillow trick" from the old guide. i want to give it a try

>>42140205
This is correct. You can find instructions on this from blogs and vendors. I am sorry I don't have a link but I have seen some detailed repair vids out there.
>make sure you ventilate fumes
Whatever. You're not my real dad.

>>42140799
>Good sex with a real woman > doll sex > bad sex with a real woman
fucking fact.

>>42140249
nta but I have a smaller one and while sometimes it makes it hard to find clothes I think it can be for most dolls with even average dolls being 5ft and 5.5 being on the tall end. Even then waist and proportions are ideal over average. Sometimes I wonder if shopping in the actual eastern world is easier where the average height and waist line is closer to dolls. Even aliexpress often defaults to plus size as the average out west has a lot less waist and while I find plenty of women in the 4ft range they are usually round and clothing manufactures are going to go for that average. Basically any are a little hard as the average real girl as drifted out of shape and smaller dolls are just more of a challenge mode, but if I have to hunt for outfits or commission them I may as well do it for the one I wanted most.

>>42140503
pretty women that puts in effort > sexdoll > mid lazy girl (wrote this and realized the other person did the exact same, it do be that way)
A hot loving partner that is giving in bed isn't replaceable but women who are a lot of maintenance and bad in bed damn sure are. Vaginal is fairly close but anal isn't really tight enough but a nice change sometimes. Its a major relief and a massive step from just a hand. Skin is okay, lips/hands/feet were surprisingly realistic to me. Despite going for the foot bolts for standing the foot texture was wildly accurate. I can't stand my doll for shit so the standing feet may not matter for you if you plan to always have them in bed or a chair, but its mostly my lack of practice on that.

>>42140503
IMO the actual vagina of dolls/toys feels way better, but no amount of weird shit they put in those parts makes up for the human elements. Dolls simply can't mimic the emotional component of sex, which absolutely plays a large part to the act

>>42141056
they also can't mimic the bullshit too lol

>>42140503
>>42140799
I agree that sex with a doll is much better then having bad sex with a women. Most one night stands for me were really bad. When i think back i just remember most girls just lay stil like a starfish and just akwardely look at me not knowing what to say and not taking any initiative. I would add that sex with a doll has a big plus over a women, that is that there is no feeling of guilt, shame and trying to please your partner. It's 100% about your own pleasure. You can say and do anything to a doll you can think of, without the thought in your head saying: "no don't do that, she wont like that/ think you r weird." The not feeling shame feels extremely freeing to me. But if you have a girl that knows what she is doing or is someone you are close to or been with a while... yea i miss those chicks

>>42140990
Take two pillows and sandwich your ona between them sort of like this
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Then take some belts or straps, wrap them around the pillows, and cinch them tight
I gotta do some shit in the office but the plan is to update the guide with the pillow method and some notes on doll clothing and lube tonight when I'm done with the other stuff

>>42141146
thank you! the old guide also had a very good recommendation part at the very end of it, can you add that part as well

>>42141056
Imaginary friends with benefits are hard to make but they can help cope with isolation.

>package never made it to the UPS store before closing
goddamnit
i want my hips
also now i need to find something else to do tonight

>>42141638
jerk off dry for the last time?

>>42141056
while it's certainly not mentally stimulating, I would say cuddling my doll all night after cumming inside is pretty emotionally fulfilling

What do you all think of preserving dopamine through no fap a la andrew huberman? Sounds like it flirts dangerously with the no fap religion to me

>be 6ft tall while naked
>dolls are always like 5ft or 5.5ft
>some are 4.5ft
>tried doing this with the 4.5ft one
>dolls top half started to really bend downwards
>feels good cant stop
>its head is basically between my knees
>fucking center of gravity is not in its normal place
>orgasm making my knees weak
anyways the doll is fine

give me an eta ups

>>42141782
it wouldn't be the last i'm sure lol

rip dollter.com

>>42142148
Sorry the guys and I needed some companionship for Christmas

>>42142263
something happen?

you think a guy with a doll and Photoshop could get away with larping as a woman for a while?
get an Onlyfans, get some simp money.

>>42142756
I think it's been done before, I remember hearing about a guy that tried it and made a few grand before he got banned because a bunch of e-whores complained about what he was doing and how it was reducing them to objects and stealing their customers and some other bullshit
>>42141234
Added some of those recommendations in the additional information section, threw in a couple more that get brought up, I'll keep adding some of the old ones and new ones that get brought up as I go along

>See multiple anons talking about doll being delayed
>My doll was delayed
They've gained sentience, haven't they?
Not my first guess for how the world ends, but not a bad way to go all things considered.

>ordered a sexdoll last week
>will be here tomorrow
>drunk and horny still browsing dolls
>find a perfect flat but not loli body
https://www.ebay.com/itm/295378776916?hash=item44c5f27354:g:-vEAAOSwHDxjhwXJ

im going to be buying dolls forever arnt i

>>42140980
https://www.ebay.com/itm/155296043647?hash=item24285d927f:g:XhsAAOSwhRliEa2Z

thats one of the many listings they have for this model. afaik they're all the same price even though some of the pics are a bit different. if you live in the states its alright, made in china but shipped to their warehouse in california

Alright anons, I've wanted to get an onahole for a while but I have one major issue: I'm not into women, I like men (not traps), and am ideally looking for something that doesn't make that much noise.
Length: 6.75"
Girth: 4.5" ish

>>42142148
Don't worry. They usually have random inspections and make up fake delays, to not tip off buyers. They're just testing your toy.

Sex dolls always feel way too gold and stiff.
I'm glad I have plush dolls instead.

Sex dolls always feel way too cold and stiff.
I'm glad I have plush dolls instead.

>>42143626
heat blanket. you can also get sex dolls with loose limbs though you'll have to use a table or stacked pillows to maintain doggy position (a small sex doll with loose limbs might work quite well)

>>42136070
fu doll

>>42142061
lol you're asking to roll that head

So I might have gotten baby powder into my dolls eyelashes while doing my initial powdering. Anyone got any good ideas to clean that shit off the eyes and lashes without damaging them? I'm not TOO concerned since the head literally came free with the 200 dollar torso, but I'd still like to not ruin it.

>>42144146
Get a make up brush, you don't need a fancy set or anything just get one big soft one and you're good, the brush is also good for applying powder so that will help you out in the future

>>42142061
if only there was an easy way to tighten/loosen limbs

>>42139724
I hear that TPE is like other thermo plastics in that The more tpe is reheated the worse it gets. Thermo plastics generally have a ratio of old to new material that is considered okay to use.

This is probably why some TPE dolls are expensive and some are cheap. The cheap ones are made of reused tpe from the miscasting.

>>42140503
If you want good feet you will need a high end Silicone doll that advertises tougher silicone in the feet.

Does the piper akira silicone 150cm have gaping genitals like the pictures show?

>>42143438
there's lot of holes that (apart from the box art) have no vagina or anything else like that on the actual hole. Noise is also not really a bid deal either with most holes, usually some slurping noises at the start. biggest problem is that you're a fairly longer than me and most of this holes are made for japs.
i usually recommend this for beginners: https://www.toydemon.com/masturbators/onaholes/understanding-bitch-onahole But with your size there's the likely possibility that you will break it by trying to go too deep while cumming.

does anyone have the link to the old guide?

>>42145783
Thanks anon

Been thinking about getting the Lolinco Virgo. Virgin Age Admission was my first onahole and I loved it before it ended up breaking. Been trying to find another onahole with the same tightness, if not a little bit more. What should I expect with the Lolinco Virgo?

>label damaged
oh no

>>42146911
I have the Lolinco Virgo Premium Hard, it's great but too firm, wish i got the regular firmness instead

>>42147763
ayy progress

>>42144210
kinda wish manufacturers would just put a TPE plug in a hole where the bolts are so we can pop them off to do adjustments. of course, morons would go showering their $1k dolls and get water in there

>>42145257
interesting to know. i doubt any end users run into that issues though unless they're fucking up repeatedly

I had a 50 minute sweaty wrestling session with my doll, while trying out different positions I found the one in pic related. You can go really deep and do small alterations on your own position while keeping this general shape. The dolls arms don't need to support the doll, so they can go around your back or something. Just wanted to share because it was nice.

>>42149959
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>>42143657
Do you have an example of one with loose limbs? I wasn't able to find anything searching by that. Is there no skeleton or what?

>>42142756
There's dudes who wear those prosthetic tits and wear a wig+ rona mask, its quite easy to do anymore.

>>42150319
It has the same skeleton but joints aren't tightend down (except for fingers and neck joints). I think with most brands you can choose that as an option.
Vid-> https://www.tayu-doll.com/patented-stainless-metal-skeleton/

>>42150319
majority of dolls i've seen have the option for loose joints. for instance, on thedollchannel, ricky has the option for ordering dolls with loose joints. if it's your first doll, i'd buy her with normal joints though so you can put her in sex positions and get the vanilla sex doll experience. for your second doll, try out the loose joints. just note that you'll have to be extra careful with loose joints since the limb can flop around and tear the TPE at the joint for extreme movements.

>>42145688
Sculpt 6/10
Durability 8/10
Tactile sensation 9/10

Pretty good for the part of the doll I spend the least time looking at. Or wanting to look at. Durability varies (a lot) by dick size, use, and luck.

>>42150725
looking at a nice camel toe without the beef curtains is one of the best things to look at on a doll though

do you guys sometimes think about other timezones when breaking social norms about when to have an orgasm?

>>42150880
That's why lolidoll are the best imo

>>42150880
That's why lolidoll are the best imo. Forgot to spoiler.

>>42151239
>that expression
something about that expression awakens something in my pp

>>42151239
>>42151455
>Daddy why did you give me nyquil, I'm not sick
>oooh, I'm starting to get sleepy

>>42151455
>>42151505
I think I went a little overboard with the accessories, but I was bored.

>>42150880
If you aren't looking at her doggy style from 3 feet behind or from the ground up she has a nice bald clit. Also if you have a TPE Akira in doggy she can sometimes look a little square and not lifelike from a corner view or if you step back. Piper Phoebe on the other hand has a full on puffy with slit and lips like petals. Her onahole is the best onahole I own. YMMV with dolls. If I could have only one it'd be Phoebe.

Weird question. I'm looking for a toy to help with deathgrip and return sensitivity. I'm pretty large down there (and have borderline phimosis), so years ago when I tried a cheap ona hole it was WAY too tight.

Another complication is that I really only get handjobs so I need one that isn't as intense as full on penetration.

Oh great onahole sages are gentle toys for retards like me?

>>42151239
Is that the silicone body

>>42150499
>>42150633
Thank you both! Fuuuuuck though I wish I would have known about that when I bought my doll. That wasn't an option at the time though. Hopefully that's available for heavy/bigger dolls too

what does extreme weather do to tpe?
my doll should be in central usa right now

>>42152096
I can tell you 90+ and humid can destroy most TPE if care is not taken

>>42152123
what about 12 degrees sitting in a freight truck?

>>42152289
Not sure. I'd guess she might become brittle. Better the packing the less she would move. Let us know.

>>42152067
It is