/jp/ - Otaku Culture

I just reread Planetarian today. I cried just as much as I did the first time. Little bitch tears, man.

I've been feeling horrible the whole day.

I feel you bro.

Went on Danbooru.
Turns out mai waifu is popular.

Speaking of "uuu", I had a dream where Maria was mai waifu once.

Except she was also my little sister, so I wasn't entirely certain what my subconscious was trying to tell me.

How do you dream in 2D?

>>4204309
You leave one eye open.

I understand perfectly, OP. Many times have I had dreams of my waifu and I going on dates together, lounging about the house together, curling up together in bed. Each dream, even those that would be considered 'boring' due to the lack of action in any of them (namely, the ones where my waifu and I just read together in bed the entire time, etc), each one gives me a taste of happiness and joy that I have never known in this world.

I know that there is no way possible for me to ever be as happy as I am when I dream. I'd kill myself if not for my knowing my waifu wouldn't like that.

>>4204319

>>4204309

You don't actually dream in any particular dimension. When you can think of something and have the first thing pop into your head be a 2d interpretation, you'll probably start seeing things are 2d in your dreams. It draws on memory, after all.

>>4204305

Nothing, actually. When you dream, your mind just floats through emotions and memories and ideas you have and mixes them randomly. You've probably just been seeing her a lot.

>>4204309
When I dream about 2d it is more of a 3d world with everything drawn that I can walk through but I am still typical.

Funny that you mention it, I just had a bizarre dream where I was in the CrossChannel school and for whatever reason an enormous golem was chasing like 5 of us. For some reason I threw Kiri off a second story balcony and she burst into flames. Then she got up unharmed and walked up to me with a blank expression on her face and hugged me for like 10 seconds until I woke up.

It felt real. ;_;

>>4204354

This is the dream, anon. Wake up.

I had a dream long ago, where I was suddenly in a hot spring scene, and my waifu was there. She was tsundere at the start, but then I went down in with her. Right when I was about to touch her, I woke up. ;_;

Feels real bad, man.

>>4204363
I tried, but then my alarm went off and I had to go to class.

I wish I had solid proof that there was an afterlife so I could kill myself.

>>4204373
>Right when I was about to touch her, I woke up.
I hate that. Every fucking time.

It's funny that physical interaction with a women is what makes /jp/ realize it's a dream and wake up.

I've had full contact sex before in a dream and it was only the middle of it. It was the most intense dream sex I ever had. Every detail was there like never before.
All that ero-manga and eroge really fleshed out my imagination.

>>4204393

Not for me. I'm a deep sleeper and have enjoyed some nice waifu dreams.

Usually they end about... The wedding, which seems to happen often. Usually when she's walking down the aisle things happen and the dream either ends or transitions to a different dream.

Has anyone mastered lucid dreaming yet?

I've only pulled it off a couple times, and both times some faggot knocked on my door and woke me up before I could really do anything.

Dreaming about it means you still have hope of getting a real waifu. Just give it up and move on, /jp/.

You'll never experience true happiness until you face reality and forgo these pointless delusions of grandeur.

>>4204433
I remember having thought how awesome it would be to see a cow falling from the sky in one of my dreams once, and that animal (along with a giant white cube) really fell down on some faraway place. I then managed to control what happened there for some time, trying to not think about anything erotic (no idea why), up until a naked giantess appeared and I forgot what else happened.

>>4204460
How can it be true happiness if said happiness does not come from "these pointless delusions of grandeur"?

>>4204433
I used to lucid dream almost every night for like 3 or 4 years, it's gotten a little less common now, I'd still say more than half of the dreams I remember are somewhat lucid though. Apparently it's really rare for most people to have lucid, but for some people it's the other way around and all the dreams you have are lucid? I don't know.

Anyway, it's not as cool as it sounds, at least it wasn't for me, because although I could control a lot I'd wake up if I did anything too outlandish or focused too much on controlling things, like for example bringing out a certain character. Also, since you know you're just dreaming you can't get as emotionally involved in the dream as you can when you really think it's real.

I've had a few dreams with 2D characters that I was convinced were real while having them, and they were far better than any of the thousands of lucid dreams I've had.

I hate real women. I really do. Every time I look at them, my blood pressure shoots through the roof. When they're gabbing on the cell phone about Paris Hilton. When they're adjusting their lipstick and taking up my time rifling through their stupid purse. When they whine to me about their period. When they blither on and on about some artist/film director/musician nobody else gives a flipping fuck about. When they cry and expect your personal sympathy.

But most of all, /jp/, I hate them because they're smug, hyperactive little bitches made that way by our shithole society. Look what uncontrolled feminism and the media has done to them: they think they're superior. They can call the shots. No woman will even know what it feels like to be completely alone and unloved unless she is FIERCELY ugly. All their crying about relationships is merely them fucking up; any girl can get any guy she wants if she tries.

When girls are feeling down, they can have any man they like and fuck him. Even if they have no friends in the world, even if they are pathetic, ugly whores, they could strike up a conversation with any guy in class and make him theirs. But a lonely, pathetic man is hated by women. They know they're better than him. They give him nothing. Even though they know he suffers from his biological urges, they sit and laugh and do nothing for him. They get to choose who is happy and who is sad.

I know this is BAAWWWWW over being a virgin. I know that it's not morally right. But I'm posting it because every single one of you sexless /a/ssholes thinks the same thing. When you watch your roomate make out with his girl, when you hear it in love songs on MTV, when you see it on the streets: know that those women are laughing at you, hating you, denying you something completely harmless, just because they hate who you are as a person. And that's their never-questioned right in this world.

>>4204475
Because true happiness doesn't involve deluding yourself. That why it's called "true" happiness.

>>4204460
>You'll never experience true happiness
As if there's such a thing as 'fake happiness'.

>>4204373
Personally, I believe that that\'s because you cannot imagine what she feels like, and thus wake up because of that lack of knowledge.

Tonight, before you go to bed, imagine what your waifu\'s smooth skin feels like. Imagine her lying down beside you, less than an inch away. Feel her body warmth. Hear her quiet breathing, focus on that breathing, and before you know it, you\'re asleep!

It helps dictate what your dreams will be about when you think about what you want to dream about before you sleep.

>any girl can get any guy she wants if she tries.

Oh copypasta, if only you were right.

>>4204477
That's a lot better than me. The closest I've ever gotten was dreaming about having a lucid dream, which is like your brain giving you a big middle finger.

>>4204504
Get the fuck out.

>>4204504
>implying you're female

All of you worthless people should die. Do you know how repulsed your waifus would be if they were real, of you disgusting creatures lusting after soulless dolls too consumed with hatred towards women to understand what love is?

>>4204507
Also as a result of lucid dreaming a lot, I also get sleep paralysis a lot, they go together I guess, since both have to do with your consciousness being aware while the rest of your mind or body is asleep. Sleep paralysis is fucking terrifying the first few times you get it.

>if they were real
People often fail to realize that the most important thing about a 2D wife is that she ISN'T real.

>>4204524
Yes, but the whole point is that they're NOT real.

>>4204524

>>4204539

But she can't love you back. No matter how delusional you are about it, she just can't.

How can you live with yourself knowing this?

>>4204524
Having a waifu does not mean that you hate 3D women. Personally, any man that takes up a waifu out of sheer hatred towards 'real' women does not truly love his waifu, but simply uses her to fulfill some base desire for companionship that he refuses to fill using 3D.

I do not hate 3D women. I have no feelings one way or the other towards them. I love my waifu because I love my waifu, not because I hate 3D women.

>>4204548
Truth.

>>4204541
>Brent

>>4204548
>I do not hate 3D women.

As a child I used to lucid dream quite naturally. I'm out of practice and currently getting back into the necessary habits. I don't do the waifu dedication thing, but that's an area I will dabble in. I've avoided this sort of thing in the past.

Promising resource for prospective LDers:
http://www.dreamviews.com/community/showpost.php?p=1071520&postcount=81

Do dreams come true?

Well if they do, I'll have you.

Not just for a night but my whole life through.

>>4204579

Kotori will never get married because she is too old and fat.

I've never had a dream where I'm just with my waifu.

I once had a dream where I slit Mokou's throat, though.

>>4204600

Does this happen frequently?

>>4204602
Just once.

once i tried to have a waifu, i was aways thinking about her, having dreams about her
after 3 months i was in love with her
the dreams were more real, the conversations too
but one day, i was walking the dog at night, and heard her calling my name, no one was in the street but me and my dog, it was fucking scaring
after that her personality got evil, i was frightened by her, i couldn't sleep, because i knew she was "Real" in my dreams, and if i slept, i would had nightmares about her
after 2 months of this I bought a game, and got addicted to it, slowly she was erased from my mind

I realized I was dreaming once, it was one of the only times I remembered so vividly being aware for a long time. I tried flying, and it actually worked for about 5 seconds. But then the feeling of flying in the air turned into lying horizontally on the bed very quickly after it became awesome.

>>4204480

>a girl could get any guy she wants if she tried

if that was true i wouldn`t be on /jp/

>>4204649
Sisfist.
There really is no alternative to brofist.

>>4204632
I chuckled.

>>4204632

I bet it was just PMS. I'm sure she'll take you back.

>>4204280
Dreaming I had a loyal 3D girlfriend and then waking up and not remembering what she looked like at all so I can't reminisce about it.

I wonder what girls think when they read threads like this on /jp/.

Do they find it adorable and want to give /jp/ a hug or do they find it pathetic and shun us?

>>4204910
Who cares.

>>4204910
Girls don't read these threads because they don't browse /jp/.

>>4204922
That's statistically impossible. There have to be a few.
>>4204919
I do.

>>4204922
Everyone on /jp/ is female

>>4204937
>I do.
Then you need to get the fuck out.

>>4204939

>everyone on /jp/ is female

YESSSSSSSSSSSSS

>>4204910
I think /jp/ has taught me how to be a good waifu if I ever will be a waifu. even though I know I will always be 3D pig disgusting.

sometimes I just want to hug some /jp/ers, but i don't think they would want me to.

I had a dream about mai waifu once. It was brief but I can still vividly recall it. I remember my heart fluttering and my legs turning to jelly (literally). But it was so nice.

It was so lovely, I spent the next 4 weeks trying every way possible to induce lucid dreaming so I could be with her again. Sleep schedules, wake-up-do-something-related-go-back-to-bed routines, self hypnosis, reality checks, everything.

It didn't work.

>>4204910
I'm just as lonely as any of you are.

Hmm one of these again.... I have given up on 3d girls so long ago. It is like reaching nirvana.

>>4204493
>>4204548
>When I was in high school
>Lucky Star
Geez, just how young are you, proxy-kun?

>>4204504

>>4204960

*Hugs*

>>4205020
I've turned 19 last year, dear Jonesy.

>>4205027
*huggles*

Another topic made by wotas

>>>>4204480

>a girl could get any guy she wants if she tried

I can has Robert Pattinson?

>>4205040
I want to roll on her fat.

>>4205035
This reminds me of that Chinese guy who went into the Panda exhibit at the zoo to give one a hug and got bitten, so he bit it back.

>>4205051
What happened after that? They become best buds?

>>4205020
It feels like yesterday Lucky Star aired. I'm losing time again ^_^;;

>>4205054
That's okay, it happens. Hell, I don't even remember if I ate today.

Nene would never leave you.

>>4205059
Love it when that happens.

"What the fuck did I even do today? Oh well"

I await a day when people can alter their genes and nobody will be denied the right to look the way they want to. Then the whole world will be happy!

>>4205070
Insecure people changing the way they look always makes them feel better about themselves....

>>4205070
>Then those with money will be even happier!

Fixed for you

I wasn't going to, but I'll post the other two too.

>>4205068
It's even better when you remember you did something, like shower, but can't remember if you did it today or last week.

>>4205070
Even if you alter your genes, you cannot change your current physical appearance. You could, theoretically, change your genes and affect the appearance of your offspring, maybe, or impregnate a girl, then alter the genes of the fetus/embryo.
But you're stuck as you are, bro. Shit sux, now go read up on virtual reality: the REAL panacea.

>>4205090

>>4205081
I guess I need to work hard!

>>4205114
Posts like this one thoroughly depress me that there seem to be no men in real life that feel for 3D women like /jp/ feel for their waifus.

That being said, even if they existed in real life, they wouldn't want me. (I know, I know, gtfo)

>>4205494
That is because you are hideous to behold.

>>4205494
I thank you for the compliment, and, if it makes you feel any better, allow me to repeat that I do not love my waifu because I hate 3D.

Indeed, I feel nothing towards 3D. I fell in love with her because I happened to fall in love with her.

That's not to say anything about
>even if they existed in real life, they wouldn't want me.
this statement, but know that some of us do not hate you, we simply either do not trust you, or, more likely, do not love you.

>>4205519
I assure you that I know that. I'm filled with about as much self-loathing as everyone else here.

>>4205556

It is kind of nice to see someone focusing more on how much they love their waifu than how much they hate 3D.
And it's fine. I don't think I could trust or love any /jp/ guy either, so it's a fair trade-off.

>>4205494

You must understand: a women's nature and body is against her, or rather against a long-term relationship with someone who flatters and grovels before her. That's why "nice guys" finish last, because a woman gets tired of him and wants a bad boy. Not to mention, a women's preference for men changes depending on her cycle; some percentage of women are unfaithful by nature and lack the necessary self-control and morals to stop themselves. Our society tells us that it's men who are pigs and so on but there's a number of women who are manipulative and deceptive. They break the hearts of these men that you so desire. That's why we value "purity" because when you control and respect yourself you end up carrying less emotional baggage, so when that someone special comes along you won't have a bunch of built up preconceptions. People get hurt and they close themselves up. A person you know who is cold might one day have been right for you.

Don't assume that just because guys don't obsess and cater to every whim of their women that they are not in love. That kind of behavior will send you straight to Dumpsville and there's only so much damage your heart can take before it withers and dies, turning you into a shell of your former self.

>That's why we value "purity" because when you control and respect yourself you end up carrying less emotional baggage, so when that someone special comes along you won't have a bunch of built up preconceptions. People get hurt and they close themselves up. A person you know who is cold might one day have been right for you.

Can you enlighten me as to why the purity concept applies exclusively to females, though? The way you phrased it makes it sound as though it isn't a gender-specific issue when it most certainly is, both on /jp/ and in real life.

the only guy in the world I want is inlove with another girl, and that girl is inlove with another guy. horrible cycle.
watching School Days made me feel like shit. I hope I don't go and cut that girls neck.

I love you so much.

>>4205744

>>4205744
>School Days

OUT

NOW

>>4205704

I am of the mind that it relates to both genders, first of all. The issue has many facets but I should like to discuss the biological one.

Nature is playing tricks on us really. The male wants his mate to bear his child and avoid impregnation from other males while the woman wants to secure the best genes available and then find the best father available. So when women are in heat they go for men with really manly faces and when they are pregnant they try to saddle up with a man with feminine facial features, because he'll make a better father and won't run off on her. Of course these things occur subconsciously and if you have strong enough inner principles and ethics you can easily brush these urges and impulses off.

Another way of looking at it is that women are the ones that bear the burden of childbirth, so when a dominate male( stud) sleeps around he is spreading his superior genes but when a woman sleeps around she has no idea who the father will be and the bloodline will be confused and tainted. All of these social rules are there to protect women, not repress them. The advent of contraceptives have "freed" women to a degree but they've always created epidemics of poverty and single parent childhood. From experience I can say that single parent childhood should be avoided because I myself have felt that a strong father influence was missing from my life and I feel that has affected me for the worse.

Our culture also has a number of sexual myths and misconceptions, like that women are more emotional than men and men can separate sex from love and all that, but that's really cultural conditioning more than anything. If you've been browsing here you know that sex is not just an act for some but a deep expression of love and that clashes with the myths propagated by society. These sayings become ingrained so it can be hard to shake them off. You believe that's the way you should act and so you do.

In psychology, when people become confused and unsure about what the proper high standard of living should be so they regress to their "id." Many people who are labeled as sluts or prudes have regressed to this stage. They either engage in reckless behavior or cut themselves off completely.

Still, I advocate abstinence until you really feel you are ready for a relationship. It's really a fine line you have to walk, between gaining experience and making sure you are irrevocably hurt by abuse or emotional manipulation. I think you should take things slowly. Scientific studies have shown that people who escalate their intimacy slowly step by step are more likely to stay together.

>>4205650
>>4205891
>>4205899

I think that the idea of women getting fed up and moving on is a generalisation, albeit one with a worryingly strong basis in fact (I hear about it a lot).

While I wouldn't expect grovelling, I don't see how such affection and dedication could be seen as a bad thing. Maybe I'm just not doing this whole 'being female' thing right?

Anyway, thank you for the thought-out replies. It was really intriguing to see it from a male perspective.

Shinku, light of my life, fire of my loins. My sin, my soul.
...
I am thinking of aurochs and angels, the secret of durable pigments, prophetic sonnets, the refuge of art. And this is the only immortality you and I may share, my Shinku.

Her seraphic blue pupils stare pensively into her nearly empty tea cup.
"More tea, Shinku?"
I asked, but those words were merely for superficial formality. I innately understood from her expression that she was willing to accept my hospitality.
I grab the tea kettle and stretched myself over to pour its pale brown liquid into her cup. Her face remains unflinching in the process. I prepare myself. With all my might I fixate my eyes on her. One could slay me there and I would not budge an inch.
A few moments pass, and she became aware that her cup has been refilled. She heightens the cup to her mouth. She then closes her eyes, simultaneously tilting the cup and slightly arching her head to let the essence of Oolong flow accurately into her rosebud lips. Soon she is satisfied and reverses her refined movements. The sculpted ceramic upon landing on her plate emitted a soft "clank". Her air of elegance, sophistication, and grace lingers in the atmosphere. She resumes her wistful gaze into her cup.
I absorbed all that wonder. An orb of tears escapes from my right eye. This is what my heart, my soul, yearn for everytime we meet here in our sanctuary, my sanctuary, at some transcendent dimension of space and time reserved exclusively for us.
I have found my bliss.
My Shinku.

>>4205891
I don't think biology affects our behavior as much as you think it does, even for people without much self-discipline.

>>4205891
I have no idea what tricks you think nature is playing on you, but the truth about "nature" is a plain as day if people would stop trying to make it more complex than it really is:

Genes want to replicate themselves. Humans are incredibly complex organic machines whose purpose is to facilitate the replication of genes. This is not shit I'm making up, this is a theory that is well-established and backed by evidence. Read "The Selfish Gene" by Richard Dawkins.

All this other nonsense about "love" and "mate selection", "bloodlines", "dominant males" is just jabber people use to try and complicate the elegantly simple truth, because humans have a seemingly infinite capacity for ego and aggrandizing our existence (see: religion)

Intressting thaat you'd have a thread about dreams. I had a strange dream tonight, it involved me creating the ultimate ringtone in my phones ringtone creator and then going around waiting to be called so I could show it off... but no one ever calls me.

Then I woke up to my cellphone's standard ringtone set as an alarm. Damnit, where is my ultimate ringtone gone?

>>4206130

All the things I talked about are also well-established and backed by evidence. You stated that humans are incredibly complex machines and that's why we need love and other constructs. We have a complex psychology and we have great variety and uniqueness in each person. You can live your hedonistic, animalistic life but don't try to bring us down with your pragmatic ways. We are capable of romance and intimacy and long-term relationships so why shouldn't we partake in them even if we are organic machines? We need to enrich and aggrandize our life by any means possible... because we can.

In other words, the whole is greater than the sum of its parts.

>>4206174
I don't recall advocating hedonism; hedonism is a very self-destructive philosophy. It's no secret that if you do nothing but engage in pleasurable activity you're probably going to die sooner. I've no idea what you're insinuating by "animalistic behavior"-- humans are animals, no two ways about it. What is wrong with pragmatism?

>and that's why we need love and other constructs

Altruism is more important to our species and *many* others than the nebulous concept of "love". In fact, many forms of "love" are just altruism given a fancy name. Without the altruism inherent and necessary for our species' survival, we would probably not be here talking like this.

> We are capable of romance and intimacy and long-term relationships so why shouldn't we partake in them even if we are organic machines? We need to enrich and aggrandize our life by any means possible... because we can.

We absolutely should, I can't argue with you. Because of the extremely long period it takes members of our species to reach sexual maturity and the adversity of living conditions, it's very necessary for a child-rearing couple to cooperate to raise their child. If that means they have to "love" each other, then it's absolutely necessary.

I think you misunderstood what I meant by "aggrandize". I meant that we tend to make ourselves much more important in the grand scheme of things than we really are. Delusions of grandeur are directly detrimental to the species.