/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>42007750
yoooo nice op

yooooo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlYhIQj1rT8

kys

this is the thread

>>42008993
this is why im learning japanese

yoooo todays kyok!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awHMIHpmeIo

>>42009203
nice kyok

is pixiv slow for you guys too?

>>42009297
yeah, no idea why

>>42009297
works for me

>>42009342
the site itself works but their image cdn is slow af

immersion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jOkCQx-HUM

>>42009349
ah
>>42009363
desuwa!

>>42009376
wow! her appetite is BIG. she would probably love to suck on my dekachin then

>>42009415
my yubis typed this post

bros im ギリギリhoping sheep runs out of reruns soon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOcC9b8HI0k

>>42009455
i only repost new ones here, seen all the old ones

Isn't immersion basically going full 猿真似?

>>42009455
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXlAQo0-BpQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMJ40VoSc4k

>>42009474
kek she needs a catchy jingle

>>42007750
Nice OP, I like the swimsuit. 7.8/10

>>42009470
depends on lewdness

今日の曲
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZWjYWcQ4Xo

>>42009519
had never heard her sing before her live
was impressed at how good she is

>>42009540
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4Rfg8R4lOU
is really good too

>>42009568
basedrys

love japanese so much bros
if someone told me a year ago id be able to read and listen and understand as much as i do now i would have laughed at them
its really been such a great time
thanks bros

>>42009644
vbijin magic

you idiots have created three different threads that have all been bumbed recently. what do japanese think of using word forms like 為る、成る、御馳走様、etc.? i keep learning the kanji forms of the words like for 蝸牛 or 蚯蚓 thanks to anki and im wondering if i should actually use them?

Is there any alternative to kanjitomo?
I can't get it to work with fractional scaling on linux

>>42009775
I use poricom and it mostly works for me. I had to download python3.9 though because it didn't seem to work on the version which my system installed (3.10.8).

>>42009767
wouldn't it be better if you asked the japanese about that?

>>42009839
i guess i could try the /int/ thread. just my japanese kinda sucks so i came here.

>>42009861
oh you are in good company here then
no idea re the answer though

>>42009455
theres a playlist of the old ones tok

>図々しい
>生意気
enlighten me /djt/

>>42010014
生臭物

>>42009816
I'd give it a try but it seems like it's a standalone manga reader rather than a generic ocr program.

whats the question?

>>42010163
No, it can be used as both. If you set up a keyboard shortcut and just have the program running it'll grab the text and put it into your clipboard.

maybe ive been too rough on valorant...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXUVCOhnFv8

if she watches youは何しに日本へ she likes white men

>>42010334
looks like a generic fps...

>>42010207
Alright I went through installing the dependencies and ran it
It works.
It's an incredibly more complex setup than kanjitomo, but it works at least.
You have to take a picture of the whole desktop, then select the area you want to ocr. if it's successful, you then get to paste the ocr'd word into a dictionary to get the meaning. Did I get it right?
With Kanjitomo I just had to move my mouse to a word and it showed me the meaning.

GMI

>>42010407
why not just use your eyes instead?
serious question

>>42010407
I think you're making it more complicated than it is. It's not as easy as installing from a package manager but it's relatively easy:
git clone https://github.com/bluaxees/Poricom.git
pip install -r requirements.txt
cd code/
python3.9 main.py
Click okay for the load ocr model and wait a few seconds for it to load. Go to controller and select the shortcut which you want. Minimize the program and open https://learnjapanese.moe/texthooker.html.. If you don't already have a popup dictionary like yomichan then install one. Also, install https://github.com/kmltml/clipboard-inserter and make sure you enable it. After that just hit your shortcut and select the text which you want to grab. The text should appear in the upper-left hand of your screen. Make sure it grabbed it correctly because it isn't perfect. Then your text should appear in the texthooker page and then you can just use yomichan to easily search up the words. Sorta similar process to grabbing text from vns. There may be more efficient ways but this works for me at least.

>>42010487
Serious question. Have you ever actually tried reading native material before? Or are you one of those retards who attempts to write kanji they don't know into google translate?

>>42010491
I already got it working. The usage process is just clunky. But at least it works, and the ocr is more accurate than kanjitomo so that's something.
If you haven't tried it yet, do give kanjitomo a shot. It's incredibly straightforward. just point your mouse over a word and it'll give you the dictionary result. You don't even need to click or anything. just enable automatic scan and point the cursor.

>>42010565
Just saw a youtube video on its usage and yeah it does seem better. Even if it's faster I'll probably stick with poricom. I noticed when I was watching anime that the ability to shift over all those words instantly really wasn't good for me. I think being forced to scan them individually will force you to slow down a bit and increase your vocab retention.

>>42010516
yes

is there an app that i can use to translate manga while i read them on my pc or do i just have to type the furigana in a dictionary

>>42010786
just type bro

>>42009767
同訓異字 like 成る and 為る are fairly tricky in their nuance and best avoided if you don’t know what you’re doing, and by “know what you’re doing”, I mean have very good understanding of kanbun and the nuances of the individual characters.

There’s no real reason to avoid kanji for things in the natural world like 蝙蝠 or 蚯蚓, unless you’re using the more scientific, general term for the type of creature, then go with katakana like everyone else.

>>42010913
excellent post thanks

>>42010913
I don't get it. So you can't just replace it one for one like 「ゲームを為る」or 「大切に成れた」?

>>42011065
ゲームを為る is fine, excepting that no one ever uses 為 for する, except when rarely necessary to disambiguate, but you have to remember that in general, these characters represent very different words in Chinese which *happen* to map to the same morphemes in Japanese.

なる carries a very basic meaning of “to be, to become, to form, to resolve, to come into existence”, but 為, 成 and, say, 生 all have different Chinese sound values (生 and 成 differ slightly in Chinese phonology, though they’re probably related), which reflects the fact that they are similar, but related words. You can’t just always note that kanji X and Y both have the Japanese reading *** and conclude they can therefore be used interchangeably.

If you really want explore the finer nuances, you need a proper character reference in which you can examine the differences in the original Chinese. If you don’t want to go quite that far, some dictionaries like 明鏡 will include short notes on kanji usage.

Pic is its entry for なれる, showing that info.

>>42011196
Thanks for the explanation.

LITERALLY ME

>>42011379
just don't be a fat loser and give bitches the clapback they need. which in this case would be something like 帰ればいい、うるさいだから。

>>42011196
yooo its a devil summoner terminal from smt!

man how do you find mid range anime? recommendations always give you the good ones and searching randomly gives you the bad ones

>>42008993
wish there were more channels like this

>>42013719
define mid range?
if difficulty, try sidonia or gits or anything sci fi or philosophical, ergo proxy is good too
oh gundam

>>42007750
Holy Mignon

>come here expecting discussion about learning the language or practicing japanese
>its all just vtumors
you underage faggots have a board for this >>>/vt/

>>42015841
/jp/ mods decided that they get two boards

>>42015841
You are looking for /int/
The /jp/ threads are thinly veiled off-topic bullshit

>>42016187
no hes looking for /jp/ not /vt/ or /int/

>>42015841
There's a DJT general on /int/, here's is mostly drama discussion

>>42016325
but there is no drama discussion here

>>42016325
No drama. Only poopoo post.

you dont get to complain about vtuberposting unless you also complain about anime, manga, live action, etc. posting because those all belong on different boards too. >>>/a/, /tv/
in fact if you post about anything japanese at all just get off my board

>>42011379
me and og

>>42016629
anime and manga are approved methods of acquiring nihongo also djt originated in /a/

what is nowadays best way to get mango jpegs into recent kindle pw format?

kyoku of the day
https://youtu.be/Vyjct0hrrYc

>>42016839
I'm not sure of any specific method, but I guess something like jpegs -> pdf -> ??? -> kindle pw format

>>42016870
shit/10

>>42016786
>approved
>nooo you can only like what i like
>djt originated in /a/
i know i was there

>>42016990
>only
you are the one who brought up that word. he just stated a couple of mediums that are generally agreed upon to be valid methods to learn the language.

>>42016990
didnt even say anything about "like"

>>42017080
he cant read bro no wonder he doesnt know japanese

>chatting with qts on hellotalk
This is the way

>>42016629
yep vchads won

yooooo 4d koyo!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAiGkHsPmak

pokemon is the path to native
https://youtu.be/x4CeAqNr_Gg

>>42017267
>the コイキング song
this is super awesome

>>42017283
theres a ton of bangers

based pokechads

How long did it take most of you realize that 待つ and 持つ use different kanji?
Any other good examples of this "phenomena"?
Took me 10 months to realize it.
RIP self-confidence.

>>42017325
>>42017283
why do you have to make everything about vtumors? no wonder this place is dead
actually kys

>>42017327
seeing it a few times? in context its essentially impossible to mix them, so don't worry about it

>>42017327
詩

kino immersion
https://youtu.be/af3tqUfFFbM

>>42017327
嗚鳴、星皇、烏鳥
theres tons but those are all that come to mind atm
>>42017401
yoooo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZWjYWcQ4Xo

>>42017461
banger

>>42017327
how did it take you 10 months to realize that two extremely common different sounding words are not in fact indistinguishable?

>>42017513
just like how it took someone here 12 months just to stay namesimasu? namesimasu? lmfao

immersion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lV_4bJm0Og

>>42017678
kuroe a cute

crazy how 後宮の烏 is probably my favorite anime this season
chainsaw/guild/実力者/叔父さん runner ups

>>42017820
mob and gundam are great too
seasons been amazing

>>42017820
looking something like meido > kage > karasu > mob > csm for me right now
but im 3 episodes behind in karasu

>>42016786
What's the address of the 4chan Otaku Culture Board Daily Japanese Thread Steering Committee? I would like to submit an official Application for Approval as Native Learning Material.

>>42017871
approval granted

>>42017860
>meido
akiba maid war? is it good?

>>42017871
make sure to submit some success stories for reference

>>42017897
youll love it or hate it

new holotalk tommorrow!
behold a fully fluent phoenix interview and translate a vbijin in REAL TIME!
her secret?
https://streamable.com/l0k9q4

>>42017911
probably love, will check it out
>>42017989
uwaaaa its wawa wawawashi!

>hololive
more like holocaust, am i right, bros? haha

>>42017997
https://youtu.be/ms6vmo5NNjU?t=215

>>42017998
https://files.catbox.moe/v3gzav.mp4

mined 677 words in 2.5 months

>>42017195
based hunterchad

>>42017127
the novelty of talking to bijins online disappeared for me years ago unfortunately
i cant be bothered anymore

>>42018138
i, too, have grown to hate women.
捻くれたgang rise up

I love women!

>>42018210
based gmi

gooooood afternoon

>>42018027
is this in the super potato in akiba?

a lot of yous 苦ｓ need to go outside and touch some grass or some shit

>>42018259
shahahahark!
>>42018267
ya super cool shop if you like retro stuff

yep
this is why im learning japanese

>>42018331
>ya super cool shop if you like retro stuff
yeah, i saw similar stickers there but with korone

>>42018331
have a nice day koone

taking a christmas anki break. no more adding new cards until next year. hopefully my daily rep number will decrease. wish my retention was higher.

さぶる児

>>42015866
>>42016187
>>42016325
it always surprises me that instead of getting berated for calling out virtualfags everyone just agrees with me here, i kind of thought the mods here were /a/ level autistic

>>42016629
vtubers are for children though
its genuinely difficult to enjoy watching a real person act like an autist in a vrchat avatar

>>42018389
based have a good day chad
>>42018402
good luck bro! it improves a lot if you immerse a lot (mine did anyway)

>>42018506
those are some big milkers...

>>42018337
yabeeee

4 >>42018515

>>42018520

>>42018337

https://youtu.be/B97L9dUDXaA

>>42018751
kek

蠱惑の刻

vinnie or ova?

>listen to the yuyuno podcast
>understand nothing
im.. immersing...

>>42018808
g..gmi...

err...?

>>42018818
robots is very expensive

>>42018818
roboto is hard work

hot

read 異物 as 果物

Is it a bad idea to try and learn Japanese and Chinese at the same time

fittin to watch this when i get back from the gym. havent really watched any old japanese movies, wonder if the time period feels as comfy as the 80s/90s do

>>42018886
>learn
yeh you should acquire it instead

ive found the most pretentious group on earth: people that review movies on letterboxd. holy shit.

>>42018882
kek
>>42018886
nah go for it

>>42018808
https://streamable.com/21bppy

>>42019073
>hear this
>immediately filled with rage
maybe i should bring up my anger issues with my shrink

>>42019075
rage can be cute, dont worry bout it anon
https://streamable.com/y25rhr

>>42019073
ELITE
>>42019075
perhaps...
>>42019108
lmao

playing a game thats 90% combat 10% dialogue counts as studying, r-right?

just realized i knew hundreds of japanese words before starting, just had to unlock them with katakana
i'm gonna make it bros

>>42019171
no you didnt retard

>>42018478
That's because /jp/ used to just be a mostly dead 2hu board. It was comfy then and I miss those days

>>42019171
soon you will surpass her
https://streamable.com/1j5bf8

just randomly remembered queefs diatribes about how loose his gfs pussy is and laughed out loud

>loose pussy
is that why they call him queef

>>42019171
>There are reportedly over 45,000 loanwords in the Japanese language, 90 percent of which have come from English.Nov 28, 2009
huh. did they stuff the entire english language in there? is this a meme stat

>>42019225
this is synonymous with thin dick
its actually a question on the 英検 under the 同義語 section

>>42019298
Still less than the romance vocabulary the normans stuffed into English over the last few hundred years.

if theyre loaned when are they gonna give 'em back

yooo

sure is good immersion here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSGKeLx6FWE

can somebody translate this to japanese
>Hello, Okabe. While scrolling through your Twitter, I noticed that a foreigner had asked you a question about Lukyon virginity, and you replied with "no," but later said "yes" when they asked you again. When reading Sekai Oni, I always viewed Lukyon as a virgin, as nothing in the manga suggests that she was sexually abused. Only being physically abused by Seshio and hearing you say Lukyon was not a virgin was shocking, but was it honest? I mean, it was a random foreigner asking you about a character's virginity. So I would like to get an honest answer from you: was Lukyon a virgin or not? If she is not a virgin, is it because she was poked by Seshio or somebody else?

>>42019878
>links to her onlyfans
rumao

>>42019902
deepl.com

>>42018886
you already are

>>42019912
my fucking bad
i just wanted to ask the character of than manga if she is a virgin

>>42019902
こんにちhello、lukyonはseshioか他の人にやられた？ありがthanks
japanese is a very dense language

>>42015841
that battle's already lost

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfbmURFLflQ

gpt is a lie machine, but it is interesting to see if you can make an AI fed with educational material in Japanese, anime, etc. and really have an AI teacher

>>42011771
unnatural also ungrammatical

治 in a handwritten font is one of the most fucked up things I've ever seen.

i wish i could open a 5-7 seat izakaya where i'd serve tasty italian food, mainly pasta dishes. that sounds comfy

>>42019167
yeah
>>42019171
holy based
>>42019771
YOOOO POST DECK PICS
>>42020258
kokoro or koyone? cant decide which i like better

>>42020894
*holo based

>>42018988
watching it atm and damn cinema has come a long way lol. the acting is wooden and like its being read off a teleprompter, the cuts are abrupt and off putting, the dialogue is so basic as well. the women are pure and gorgeous though

>>42018818
Mistakes happen.

whats the most amount of words you've mined in a day?

BROS I CAN UNDERSTAND SONG LYRICS!
MAKING IT FEELS AMAZ8NG

>>42021011
back when i started i went full retard and had an 1800 word day (+-)
these days a lot less
>>42021013
GMI

>>42019298
meme stat probably です
dunno why they always bloat thefuck out of the jp vocabulary in statistics

今日の曲
https://youtu.be/J1Ul1CrV5yE

>>42021026
you made 1800 flashcards in a day? how tho?

>>42021011
i think i mined like 300 words from 6 episodes of mitsuboshi colors

>>42020612
you're retarded. That's a completely natural thing to say in that situation. Imagine being grammatically correct at all times in causal conversation lol. mf sound like a damn robot.

>>42021051
reading all day and mining everything i didn't know. there was nothing there anyone would think of as impressive, i was when i had just began, maybe a couple months after. i dont do anywhere near as many cards now

there has to be a better way to acquire a ton of vocab fast beyond just droning for 2 hours per day. just reading and watching shit isn't even as good as that for pure memorization so i guess im fucked

>>42020935
A few years ago a local small theater did a multi feature of Seppuku (1962), House (1977), and I feel like one more but I don't remember for sure.

Maybe it was the venue but Seppuku had me enthralled, while House was a fucking wild and weird ride.

>>42021192
i'm having a real hard time finding any movies to watch. my brain has been fried by anime and manga to the point where none a lot of the premises of the movies i'm looking at are too mundane for me to be interested. plus i dont really give a fuck about the "human condition" which limits me a lot. i started watching ichi the killer and it seems kino but i cant fucking understand half the slurring they do so i gave up

>>42021210
ima ai ni yukimasu

>>42007750
Current thread: #3444

Previous threads: >>42007678

my favorite thing to watch is what i call "tragedy porn". those news specials about kids with cancer, documentaries about 311, anything about the depths of suffering humans can experience. it's the only thing that can make me feel anything. i think i could watch a hundred documentaries about 311 and no get tired of it. there's apparently an archive or something dedicated to that specifically since there are so many of them but of course none of them are available to pirate

>>42021259
>watch is what i call
you didnt make that term up

>>42021265
yes i did, whether it existed before that is irrelevant because i hadnt heard of it

>>42021191
all the memes against droning dont change the fact that 4k sigils is a lot of sigils and to get all, or even most of the sigils one needs takes a bit of conscious effort
are the sigils all there is to it?
no, of course not, but they are a required component of japanese ensorcellment

>>42021269
you're in the biggest faggots in djt history hall of fame for sure

>>42021259
nice word anon, i shall always remember anonymous as its creator
>>42021273
WAGMI!

>>42021269
sigils would be words not kanji

>>42021566
24 thousand sigils is even more sigils!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Byaa4lYAHk

My reading speed is so slow bros, can't even follow along with jp subs when I just ignore words I don't understand

>>42021915
turn off subs, problem solved

>>42021967
You might be onto something lel

You don't even know english

>>42022186
Nah I can say that and it only takes me about 20 minutes

can ppl look at this and instantly read everything like i can with english
that seems so far away...........

>>42022278
im the retardedest person here and can read that sorta fast and without much pain so i would say yeah
what game?

reading speed protip:
play master duel in japanese, you have 300 seconds to take your turn and any actions, including reading what the fuck it is that whole bunch of obscure non meta meme thing your opponent just played

>>42022299
Custom Robo V2

>>42022299
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPo8VQsJEJU btw

>>42022331
thats why it looked familiar! watched koone playing it!

>>42022361
yosh!

>>42022329
that seems really hard with how long card descriptions get

I do feel like playing games in Japanese would be a really fun way to immerse though. can't find anything thats hookable though

I know fate extra/ccc is but never played fate extra

>>42022299
>im the retardedest person here
not so fast buddy. everyone here knows im the most retardedest

my retention in anki is slowly but surely dropping as the words I mine become less and less common and the readings I have to memorize augment
now the majority of words i have to look up when reading are words I already mined, feels like shit

I don't need DJT anymore.

wtf im watching anime and
>（ピントを合わせる音）
came up. they really are rubbing it in my face that i picked cursor

New to the thread, already been learning Japanese using other resources, I have a question.

It seems like most things for learning Japanese from English are planted pretty firmly in teaching you keigo. I realized the other day that though I have a vocabulary that's growing at a nice pace, I don't know how to drop the level of formality of my speech.

Does anyone have any suggestions for how I can learn the informal versions of words that I know? I feel like I have no idea what word endings I even need to replace the -masu, -shimasu, etc.

Watch a bunch of yakuza movies and copy your favorite character

>>42022557
not so fast
>>42022614
same. been doing this for years with no end in sight.

>>42022687
i picked pinto thankfully
for some reason i knew that it was correct but i don't remember where i saw it

>>42022706
watch >>42022361 and acquire comfy conversational Japanese
think shes near the end of the game, or at least the subboss behind the incident 10 years ago
>>42022827
same, a holo stream or another

>>42022842
Don't get me wrong, Korone is adorable and fun, and I should probably try to learn more casual speech from streamers. But watching her stream isn't an answer for "how do I un-keigo the stuff I already know?"

>>42022862
oh sorry
just end your sentences with yare yare daze and roll your r's, that should balance the keigo out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaIxr4s98mQ
i love delta

>>42022862
serious answer, if you are actually talking with someone irl and you are good at keigo, use that
if you aren't talking with anyone then it doesn't matter
as for what you replace word endings with, just look up the word stem in the dictionary/google it, the default result/entry will be the dictionary form which is what you want i guess
yaru/suru instead of shimasu

>>42022922
Well. Time to rewrite all my flash cards. That's... gonna take days, but if it's gotta be done it's gotta be done. My one online friend from Japan keeps razzing me that my speech is too tight.

>>42022944
dude you don't need to replace your flashcards the actual way of learning impolite speech is to listen to people using impolite speech

>>42022956
this so much this
>>42022944
if you actually know that stuff well it shouldn't be hard, just watch some anime, vbijins, whatever, and just copy them, nobody talks in keigo outside of very specific archetypes/situations
>>42022499
play ender lilies its great

>>42023011
>nobody talks in keigo outside of very specific archetypes/situations
lol, lmao even

>>42023025
that clause applies to 'anime, vbijins, whatever, and just copy them', not to the entirety of japanese interactions, i would have thought that obvious but i guess you need things chewed and lovingly regurgitated in your mouth anon

>女は悪魔の宴へと向かう
What purpose does the と serve here? The direction is already indicated by へ...

>>42010786
kanjitomo
but it sucks

>>42023058
>へと
https://www.kanshudo.com/grammar/%E3%81%B8%E3%81%A8
https://japanese.stackexchange.com/questions/9343/particle-%E3%81%A8-with-%E3%81%B8-%EF%BD%9E%E3%81%B8%E3%81%A8

that was such a good fight bros

just read 子供 as しども

>>42023144

>>42023078
Thanks, that does it.

>>42023144
I don't get it. What does that second thing even mean?

>>42018886
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlteftANWoE

>>42023178
child, obviously

>>42023178
Absolutely nothing. He misread 子 as シ, it’s on’yomi. For some reason, thought it was a so-called 重箱読み.

>>42021915
I've been studying more than a year and my reading speed is still extremely slow

>>42023056
you do realize that です and ます is also keigo right

>>42021915
It feels to me like you eventually hit a point in proficiency where your eyes just glide right over the particles, and you automatically use their positions to separate out the words between them. If your vocabulary is good, you'll be able to understand how to join all of that information together quickly. Keep practicing.

>>42023416
no thats teineigo

what japanese words convey the idea of woke, sjw, political correctness, etc?

>>42023416
丁寧語 and 敬語 aren’t the same thing. です is simple, polite 丁寧語, while でございます would be the 敬語 analogue.

>>42023440
Can’t speak for Jap, but the term 白左 is widely popular in Chinese to refer to crap like that.

>>42023011
>play ender lilies its great
isn't that a souls-like game?

>>42007750
^חג מולד שמחゆめかわいいCute fairy/W.i.t.c.h. fruityEcology Artstudying games
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ld6wxjXFErA


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAuWeE3Gow8
>when are you getting shipped off to the frontlines?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oG0MRttb7Q
never: Everything is in its` place: Antifairi spend their lives in the deceivement swamp,
fairi princess and yni assciates in the candy shop and oxford Ynyty church-college art Louvre museum in yaylum :
all my non imaginary friends became antifairi sooner or later but since no good decision will be unpunished I hardly continue my dream magic yayly as a fairi princess because there are too much curses and beasts666 waiting for what’s left of us

^So sometimes I play along with antifairi and use dark dream magic&speech distortion spells and made up things too resist& reverse the antifairi(reversed fairi)(lit. reinstate the nyy magic witch is calm enough) but my spells are not affecting real fairi a since they can see my true intentions yayly^
. That’s why I have visited many places like Vatican, Oxford and much more to reverse myself in local coordinate and have many incarnations at one time。In all that time I have always had a legal visa status and still have it yayly so I can’t be deported. I can’t get work or marriage visa or renew student visa anyway So I guess I will figure out where and how to settle my home country Ypony^(lego castles and polymer clay dolls I have maiden included) while antifairi vulgars have fun in following made up things and wasting their energy on my dream distortion magic order out of land of chaos online the real world is。
>Have you had success applying for asylum in Europe or Israel?

well maybe i can get yaylum in EU or California (not sure about Israel since I have not Jewish ancestry(only Eastern and Central European) probably
I just want to stay in Ypony^ (because I am not just a refugee but more than deserve to live there as a citizen
I never give up my positions : as a fairi princess I order to deyay antifairi vulgars spawned in my fairi castells and held on antimagical masses for the future unfoldment...^
Elff＾L:
𝄆 ^𝄇 「 ACMPy ＾」
I。Purest ynicracy ＾(cute magic dreams and friendships and artstudying ...＾)
Ⅱ。Most peaceful&dreamy country・・・＾/castle^ I
Ⅲ。Intersubjective&cutemagical fairi freedoms

𝄆＾。𝄇
#ゆめかわいい魔法天使妖精 #Yni #cutemagic #fairi #freedom #purity #multifruity #fruityEcology #中二妖精 #ユニ妖精＾

>>42023420
That’s a good summation. Also the reason I fucking loathe 書き換え like, say, 常とう手段. Just write the freaking kanji and include furigana if you think the average reader won’t know it. Replacing 套 with とう in the middle of a compound pointlessly break up the visual cues from the interleaving of kanji and kana.

Decided to start reading and every single speech bubble is a road block. What's little bit of chest? Is it potential or passive? The hell is this. The hell is that? And I dread では and と and helper verbs...

I don't know what to do, my brain is not processing these. I am really trying. I can search the word, but the sentence just isn't clicking for me. Do I just give up?

>>42023483
may be wrong but i think chotto is often used just as an emotive, not suggesting anything is little. like english people going "well uh"

>>42023483
“To be driven out, just because (my) chest got a little big...”

The base verb is 追い出す. 追い出される can only be passive. You also have to get accustomed to perspective shifts between direct and passive voice, just as in English.

>>42023483
use jp subbed anime instead where you can turn on english subs if you absolutely don't know what's going on
there's also audio and moving pictures to help with comprehension
also it's not ちょっと胸
it's
ちょっと胸が大きくなった - breast have gotten a little bigger
だけで - just because of that
追い出されるなんて - to be driven out...

>>42023515
Like, sure, but where a little bit big, just because, to be? Where so you see these words? Kedo means but, however; there is de particle in after it, which make no sense. なの is like explanatory something or nominalisarion and that te is killing me.

グレンラガンって

名探偵じゃないほうのコナンの

オマージュあったのんな

２３話なんだけど

ぱやおとガイナックスってつながってたっけ？

>>42023542
>also it's not ちょっと胸
Yup. It helps to remember that ちょっと is an adverb, not an adjective, so the interpretation “a little bit of” can’t possibly work.

i live in japan and date a bunch. most girls i converse with no problem but every now and then theres a girl i just can never understand whats shes saying, like the girl im seeing now.

she has some obvious mental issues so i wonder if thats part of it

>>42023570
なんて is a set phrase commonly used to describe surprise, anger, etc. at something

>>42023542
>ちょっと胸が大きくなった - breast have gotten a little bigger
Shouldn't the chotto be before the word it modify. Of course it shouldn't it's not european language. But why is it this way? How do i know which word adverb is modifying?

>>42023607
it modifes the entire next phrase (胸が大きくなった) not just the next word

>>42023570
ちょっと is an adverb modifying なった (past form of 為る, to become).

だけ — “just” — limits the preceding phrase, while で indicates cause or means.

“To be (past participle of verb)” is just the natural English way of rendering the passive voice, which is indicated by the auxiliary “~aれる”

Not trying to be an asshole here, but is English your first tongue?

>>42023636
>first tongue
not to be an asshole, but is it yours? lol

>>42023642
Yeah, and French as well, this I’ve forgotten most of it by now. I know just enough to get myself into trouble, but not back out of it again.

>>42023636
No, it's not my mother language. Can't really learn JP in my own language for free the same way i can in english, if you know what i mean. Also the books are are from 60s.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>42023664
Damn.

Well, at least there is a huge amount of online resources available to you. What is your mother tongue?

>>42023631
I understood the sentence completely absolutely wrong. I don't know where the phrases start and end. I thought noun-phrase starts after ga. I thought its chest expelled by means of growing big, but the kedo, chotto and nante made no sense there. I am too stupid for japanese.

>>42023696
Czech. I don't like particles and helper verbs. I want my cases and conjugations back.

にほんじだいは

せいひんどれも

こまかいところまで

てぬきがなかったとおもう


てぬきできるところは

てぬきをするじだいになってから

あらがでたり

こわれやすいなあとおもうよ

>>42023699
I think you’re focusing a bit too much on intellectually analyzing the grammar, rather than just feeling it out from the context.

だけ functions grammatically like a noun, and therefore attached to the entire phrase ending in なった. Think of that as the delineating element.

As the other anon said, なんて effectively nominalises — with a sense of annoyance or incredulity — the phrase it follows.

Also けど does not appear in that text.

>why japanese people?
what are they trying to say? genuinely

>>42023730
Ah, sorry. I’m afraid I know nothing of Czech grammar, so can’t see things from your perspective.

Yeah, Jap has no grammatical case at all, but post-positional particles serve that function. You could kind of consider auxiliary verbs as conjugations, especially since they usually attach to only certain inflections.

Want my advice? I think you’d greatly benefit from a good book on formal, Classical Japanese grammar. I think it would suit your learning style.

>>42023775
Here, I highly recommend this. I have a physical hardcover copy myself.

http://faculty.humanities.uci.edu/sbklein/bungo/100A/MISC/ClassicalJapanese11-49.pdf

It will really help you understand and feel comfortable with the underlying grammatical structures.

>>42023790
Ok, thanks. I really prefer to come here and have things explained/find out why I was wrong. I spend so long yesterday trying to find out what is going on in that sentence.

>>42023890
No problem, mate.

I feel like you have a more analytic-type mind, much like mine, and so we tend to become hyper-focused on the structure of the grammar. If I’m correct about this, then a good, solid understanding of *formal* grammar — as opposed to shit like so-called “te-forms” or “masu-forms”, etc. — will help you.

The grammar book is English, but very well-written. Formal Japanese grammar is also extremely regular. Its contents might not all be immediately useful to you, but it should greatly help you parse the grammar which is causing you problems.

https://youtu.be/-y7ea5Eu7Mg

>>42023917
You are probably right. I am now trying to find out what dewa means in next speech bubble and can't find anything.

>>42024012
You might also want to buy an electronic dictionary, as they are immensely helpful.

Pic related, the entry for では. “Well...”, “Okay...”, “Now, then...”, etc.

へんなげーむみつけた

これどうおもいますか

>>42024031
I can't read/interpret this. I would end up in endless loop of searching because I don't know what the sentence is saying.

>>42024254
Sorry, I’m used to using J-J dictionaries, but in any case, the search also produces this.

where is jamal

>鞘
acquired. one stop closer to kanken pre-1

>>42024474
in my bed

yosh outputted

>>42024406
I really envy you are able to use J-J dictionary and probably can read everything I am struggling with with no effort. I am too dumb to read JP.

>>42021011
the most nwe mined carsd i've ever done in a day is 40, which i've done a couple times
but usually if I mine over 20 I use that as an opportunity to mine less the following days, cause I try not to do more than 20 new mined cards a day so i have more time to immerse

Hi guys, do you recommend an E-E dictionary apps?

>>42024987
That's cause you're a noob
Listen/read more
You'll have to white noise a bit at the beginning just so your brain reaches the point where it intuitively knows where one word ends and another begins, etc.
The grammar comes more naturally when you can imagine how a sentence is actually spoken, and you know what bits they stress and emphasize.

I wish I could learn japanese...

>>42025042
だいじょうぶ

おにいちゃんならできるよ

>>42025041
I've been learning JP 2 months now though.

>>42025061
>can't even read sentence in full hiragana
What's nara de kiru?

>>42025042
ふれー！きーぷまいふぃんがーずくろすと！

https://on.soundcloud.com/VuiZs

>>42025063
yeah like he said you're a noob and need to read and watch more

>>42024987
You’ll make it if you keep at it.

I’ve been studying for years, but I remember obsessing about this particle or that inflection, and how some form did not perfectly fit the patterns I’d been taught, and was therefore Horribly Wrong.

When I first started studying kanbun, it would literally take an hour to parse a single, complex sentence. Now, it’s almost as simple as reading English.

Just try not to get too bound up in grammatical rules, and think more about the context of the whole. Use a J-J dictionary only when you become ready for it.

The single thing to keep in mind is perseverance:

跛鼈千里　“Even a crippled tortoise can travel a thousand leagues”. This is coming from someone who has never had any gift for languages.

>>42025063
>learning for 2 months
that can be so many things
that doesn't mean much if it's only like 30 minutes a day and it's only looking at speech bubbles when you can't even imagine what they soun dlike yet.
you need to get used to what the language sounds like

Noone use E-E dictionary?

>>42025083
fuckin baased

>>42025078
if it's you (oniichan) then dekiru yo
or in more natural english 'you can do it oniichan'

sometimes in anime, the english subtitles will say "i give", in the sense of "i give up".
is this actually correct english? can you say "i give" instead of "i give up"? or is this just a case of the translators being ESLs themselves and translating a japanese phrase incorrectly into english?

>>42025141
kids say it a lot in america when the loser in play-wrestling admits defeat and wants the winner to have mercy
I've never heard anyone say that as in "I give up" in such situations as the ones in anime though
But if it's like one shounen MC tortuing his best friend in a headlock until he admits defeat, then "I give" is an extremely natural translation actually

>>42025141
Sounds a bit odd, but in context, I’d understand it.

If someone is twisting my arm, I might say “I give!”, as short for “give up” or “give in”.

>>42025141
ignore the other two esl answers
no it's not correct it's just retards translating ギブ incorrectly

>>42025189
it is correct if you had friends as a native English speaking child (male) you would know

nobody use E-E dictionary?

>>42025241
I did when I was a kid but my English vocabulary is so big that I'll only encounter unknown words if I open a medical journal or something

>>42025280
thanks.
So dictionaries aren't really necessary for native speakers.

>>42025353
no English natives still Google the occasional word
if you watch jap youtubers play an RPG they'll occasionally look up kanji

how do you read ワイン塩
is it
わいんえん
わいんじお
わいんしお
this is why japanese is fucking retarded

>>42025353
Any serious student of language encounters and learn new words even in his native language. It is often that I encounter an entirely new English word, but if I do, I look it up in both English and Japanese.

>>42007750
Bros he is live:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJi-3267M28

>>42025407
no offense but it's obviously しお

>>42025407
Never even heard the term before.

“Salt derived from wine”?
“Salt for adding to wine”?

In the former case, I’d say ワインエン, the latter, my instincts tell me ワインしお.

みつけてしまった

ほんとうにかいてる
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuWoNHILvFQ

>>42025407
Did you actually mean to say 酒石?

質問があります

「xxようなやつは」という言い方は悪口なのでしょうか？

なんか上から目線のような気がしますよね

I said こんばんは to a Japanese streamer and they repeated it back to me, does that count as having a conversation in Japanese?

>>42025684
話にならんぞ (冗談)

>>42025619
質問があります
黙ってくれませんか

>>42025619
not necessarily, you can talk to your friends that way
i call my friends asshats in english all the time too

>>42025428
dame i read this as セックス生ライブ

>>42025104
Rather whole day doing anki and searching grammar and vocab from sentences I am unable to parse. I started playing my favourite game in full JP so I am reading and listening, but without ocr, mechanical translation and original translation I wouldn't feel comfortable. I just don't have it in me.

>>42025707
Story something something zo. Could you tell why there hanashi is being targeted by nominalised if?

>>42025098
I take two hours to parse simple sentence. I think you are really gifted. If I tried to parse complicated sentence, i would need whole day.

>>42025866
the naran here is a casual form of naranai(negative naru)

>>42025885
Parse from the sentence end backwards if you don't get it at once. If it still doesn't make sense, identify nominalizers because roughly 90% of Japanese is just subsentences describing a noun on which the verb-coming-last acts. Don't forget that -te can be used as "I did X te/and and Y te/and ...".

>>42025885
you can't comprehend anything when you spend that much time analyzing a sentence. you have to understand as you're hearing/seeing the language, meaning you just have to consume the language until the grammar is unconscious

>>42025485
beautiful

>>42025975
I get it, but that only works for people who are able to understand the language. It's the paradox where only people who already know language can learn the language. I don't know what those grammar points i struggle with do to the sentence. The way I do it, is to sit down, put that sentence in translator and find out why i was given that answer. The annoying part is even then i just don't know. Until i don't know i won't stop.

>>42026082
>The way I do it, is to sit down, put that sentence in translator and find out why i was given that answer.
that's what I did too and I imagine that's how a lot of us started, but spending too much time on one sentence will slow you down, it's better to hear lot more sentences than doing that. if you can't understand a sentence after 5 minutes move on, it's still too advanced for you.

just watch peppa pig

I am not four.

why do japanese in youtube comments always use の instead of が for adjectives? for example のかわいい or の好き
here's one i just found: 『ねばった戦績』とか『絡まる電柱』とかに繋がっているのすごい

>>42026082
You should aim for comprehensible input then.
https://invidious.namazso.eu/channel/UCXo8kuCtqLjL1EH6m4FJJNA

>>42026167
I'm not sure but
繋がっている is a verb, so 繋がっているが would be weird
繋がっているの nominates the verb so it's like "connection/connectedness sugoi"
I would expect it to be 繋がっているのがすごい but maybe 繋がっているのすごい is the same meaning with slightly different feel

>>42026098
I decided i will only parse three sentences a day this way (from the game), plus some mined words, because it really takes hours and i still end up asking here. I really wish I could just pick a doujin and read it and only search vocab, but i keep getting particles that just doesn't click or auxiliary verbs that are just too abstract to grasp immediately.

>>42026212
ok so が is just being left out then, and it's actually のが

that makes me wonder what the difference is between that and て/で + adjective, which is another pattern i often see when people give their feelings
ex とかに繋がっててすごい

>>42025866
https://jisho.org/search/hanasininaranai

>>42026224
very similar I guess
繋がっててすごい is like 'connected and that's sugoi' 'connected which is sugoi' cause i think the て/で is the same as when it's in adjectives like '珍しくて 怖くて' etc.
whereas 繋がっているの is like the noun of that is sugoi yeah

無邪気

>>42026143
Ego keeps us from many things

todays kyokus!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXxoYSCcqqw

>>42024058
what game is this?

yooooo
https://youtu.be/m300EONBDTw

nu djt guide for oldfags - skim and skip never post

but u just posted

have to break the rules before you can lay them down

>>42024058
name?
>>42025428
yooo what happened to flute babe?
>>42025485
ウオオオおおおお
>>42026082
no, everyone was where you are at one point, just stop thibking and obsessing over everything and just read/listen/whatever, eventually your brain will turn on and make sense of things, but its not instant, and its not 2 months either.
try tadoku, hukumusume, random 童話, doremi, watame, or something really easy like that, good luck bro
>>42026098
this, just keep going
>>42026634
cute angel
>>42026664
kek

yosh japanese study time!

>>42026664
acquired 蜥
n level: 火蜥蜴

https://files.catbox.moe/ts376g.gif
https://files.catbox.moe/ih10dk.gif

>>42026819
UWAAAA デカイ！

>>42026810
hitokage? funny way to say n6 lmao

>seeing that kanji for the first time after 2 years of """learning"""
imagine failing this hard at japanese
can't!

>>42026295
This is where I go "Ok, but why?"

>>42026946
bro what do you think about なめします？

>>42026952
Nothing. Suru polite. Don't know what name is.

>>42026810
based same
always see it as トカゲ

I am n10, the most stupid person to ever decided to learn Japanese. Next year i will be n8 and still unable to read doujins. The thing is I will keep learning. I am too dumb to quit.

>>42026952
ok but what's the difference between 諦めてた and 諦めてたんだ

https://youtu.be/TCBM5Fa1Jls

>>42026984
based gmi

>>42026974
lol same bro. apparently some guy who's been learning for years thinks its the polite form of 舐める lmfao. watch out bro that guy gives ""advice"" all day long in the thread to mislead beginners and cripple them too!

Don't jest. I am actually sad that I have no real chances of learning it. I am envious of everyone here who makes it seem trivial and say things like "you just have to he patient and it will click".

It won't.

黒飴なめなめ黒飴なめなめ

>>42026946
話 is usually not "story" it's "thing we're talking about"

>>42027029
its literally impossible anyway
anyone who says it isnt just doesnt know how bad they suck
you can still get to a point where you can do what you want mostly though

>>42026992
kek
>>42027029
just keep going, everyone has been where you are
or if you are convinced you wontmake it, just give up and have peace
good luck eother way

>>42027043
160let cope

>>42027053

>>42027029
>It won't.
it won't "click" and you'll suddenly be good one day but if you keep at it you'll slowly get good and that's a fact
if you can't deal with the initial pain of not understanding anything then yeah better look for another hobby

>>42027114
>it won't "click" and you'll suddenly be good one day
huh

love these alternate reality

>>42027114
Yeah, I am so agitated. Can't write like you can, can't read what you write here, can't talk, can't respond. Phrase doesn't make sense to me. Don't know why the word was used there. Don't know the difference between words. Nobody had so many skill issues as I have right now.

>>42027195
you feel out of place cause youre in the intermediate thread

>>42027195
everyone has had them, don't worry about it this is the beginner thread after all

yooooo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aJ3pKCnTl8

>>42027195
welcome beginner bro!
check out holodex for comfy emmersion material and don't stress too much!

god i love the beginner thread

gooood afternoon

>>42027245
鮫鮫 (さめ means shark)

>>42027249
okayuuuuuu
cute babe, nice shirt

>>42027249
Good after noon mother fuuuuuucker!

>>42027252

>>42027195
which is to be expected

>>42027249
yoooo
>>42027276
>>42027252
uooooooo