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Yeah sorry, I thought you'd been informed. It doesn't matter anymore.

Informed Reimu.

The Touhou fandom tends to exagerrate character traits greatly. Cirno's stupidity, Yuyuko's gluttony, etc. In Reimu's case, it's her cluelessness.
She has displayed tendencies to be unaware of what was going on at times, but she's nowhere near as uninformed as people portray her as.

As we first get a glimpse of Gensokyo, we are introduced to Reimu Hakurei, the Shrine Maiden of the Hakurei Shrine. The Shrine is located near the gate to Hell and the gate to Makai, the Demon World.

Exiting the Shrine, Reimu is tested by her gatekeeper, Shingyoku.

If the chosen path is Makai, our heroine battles the mysterious evil eyes- YuugenMagan. She then is encountered by the not-so innocent devil, Elis. At the edge of Makai, Reimu enters the Fallen Shrine and battles the Angel of Death, Sariel. Sariel may have led Reimu into the Fallen Shrine wishing to trap her in Makai forever. Our heroine defeats Sariel and escapes Makai, proud of her abilities with the Yin-Yang Orb.

If the chosen path is Jigoku, our heroine meets the vengeful ghost, Mima for the first time. The ghost was possibly murdered, for she holds a blood-stained blade. After defeating her, she comes across the nearly anonymous Kikuri. Finally, deep within Hell, Reimu enters the Silent Shrine and encounters Konngara, who may have destroyed Reimu’s shrine out of pure sinful jealousy. The heroine defeats Konngara and leaves Jigoku, hoping to repair her shrine as soon as possible.

[Please note that since the only English translation involving with the HRtP plot is the prologue, the Final-Stage Boss plot assumption is simply to resolve the question of why the Hakurei Shrine was destroyed.]

>>4194318
cool fanfic, 6/10

>>4194318
> After defeating her, she comes across the nearly anonymous Kikuri
>She comes across Anonymous

REIMU HUNGRY

>>4194330
>Calling HRtP a fanfic.

only one i have

Determined to find who sent these monsters to her shrine, Reimu embarks on yet another journey, this time accompanied by her flying turtle Genjii. She first meets the suspicious engineer Rika, who claimed to have created the monsters at the Hakurei Shrine. Despite Rika's piloting of her own tank, Rika is easily defeated. Rika then tries to lure Reimu into a trap, but Reimu outsmarts Rika and continues on her way. The night comes while Reimu and Genjii enter the Forest of Magic. The samurai Meira attacks Reimu in hope to defeat her and obtain her inherited power. Reimu is reluctant to fight, but not because she fears defeat. In fact, Reimu wasn't even paying attention to Meira's theory. Reimu however, fights Meira and defeats her. Meira runs off into the night and hasn't been seen since.

Still wandering about, our heroine meets the upbeat magician, Marisa Kirisame, who is determined to stop Reimu before she can get to her mistress, Mima. Once defeated, Marisa warns Reimu of Mima's power, quite confident that Reimu will not win. Genjii also doubts Reimu could win against Mima, telling her that she should train more and come back to exorcise her later. Reimu angrily disagrees, and goes on to fight Mima. Mima admits that she truly sent the monsters to the Hakurei Shrine. Mima is finally defeated, but she disappears before Reimu could exorcise her. Rika attacks Reimu once more, this time with the avoided trap… her tank Evil Eye Sigma. Using the full power of the Yin-Yang Orbs, Reimu ultimately defeats Rika and heads home to find that the monsters at her shrine had disappeared.

While enjoying a quiet morning walk, the local shrine maiden Reimu Hakurei stumbles across some curious ruins a short distance from the Hakurei Shrine's gateway. Spotting Mima and Marisa Kirisame among the crowd gathered, Reimu inquires about the ruins' sudden appearance and is given a flyer indicating that the Grand Opening is to occur shortly and that those who enter will be rewarded. Unable to locate any sort of entrance into the ruins, the group instead discovers a notice posted nearby which warns that the ruins can only support one visitor. Thus those wishing to enter the ruins decide to stage an impromptu competition: the one who defeats all others will be allowed to enter the ruins and receive the mystery prize.

The contest winner, having successfully trounced all seven rounds of competition, triumphantly enters the ruins only to be confronted by Chiyuri Kitashirakawa, who levels a strange weapon at the winner and demands that she follow her deeper into the ruins. Yumemi Okazaki appears and accosts Chiyuri for her brusque treatment of their visitor before explaining that the ruins are actually a "probability space hypervessel." Yumemi has come to this world to study the amazing magical powers of its inhabitants and, after denying any knowledge of the promised reward, orders Chiyuri to battle the winner so that she may observe and record data.

Afterward, Yumemi rages that Chiyuri was defeated before she was able to gather enough data and strikes a deal with the protagonist: should the winner be able to defeat her as well, Yumemi will grant her one wish; however if Yumemi wins, the visitor must return with her to their world for further study. Once beaten, Yumemi holds true to her promise and the victor is rewarded well for her efforts.

woah, no wonder this was retconned

All is well within Gensokyo, and just as the shrine maiden Reimu Hakurei is beginning to grow bored, a massive amount of youkai appear and begin to lay waste to the Hakurei Shrine. Although Reimu immediately sets about exterminating the invaders, she isn't able to compete against the sheer numbers of youkai. She determines that the creatures are emanating from a suspicious lake high in the mountains behind the shrine, and sets out in an attempt to staunch the flow and save the shrine from complete destruction. Around the same time, Marisa Kirisame, a powerful magician, senses a great energy lurking beneath the mountain lake and hurries toward it herself, fully intent on making the mysterious power her own. At the beginning, neither is aware of the other's activities.

Both characters easily plow through Orange, an ordinary youkai who was simply flying about the mountains, before arriving at the lake, which happens to be filled with blood. There they encounter a vampire named Kurumi who claims to be the guardian of the lake and battles them twice. After defeating her, they discover a vast chasm in an island at the center of the lake from which the mysterious power emanates. At the end of this passageway stands a dark mansion. Outside they find the scythe-wielding gatekeeper Elly, who explains that they are within the boundary between the real world and the dream world. She also reluctantly admits that the other character (Marisa, if you're playing as Reimu, or vice versa) has already defeated her and entered the mansion.

>>4194461
After braving the attacks of the mansion's housekeepers, who apparently aren't thrilled to have visitors, Reimu and Marisa finally meet in a dark chamber near to the center of the building. Reimu immediately accuses Marisa of planning something devious and demands that she leave, to which Marisa takes offense, and the two engage in an explosive duel. The victor demands that the other leave before continuing into the fantastic heart of the mansion. There the remaining protagonist accidentally awakens a sleepy youkai named Yuka who, despite her weariness, wields tremendously powerful attacks, not the least of which is the awesome Master Spark. After her defeat, Yuka panics, fleeing the area and forcing the heroine to give chase. In a star-filled dream world the final battle begins.

Some time later, the characters are bored and somehow stumble into another strange world, in which they encounter tremendously fierce enemies and the twin sisters Mugetsu and Gengetsu. Although they battle, it is ultimately a pointless affair.

>>4194466
>Yuka who, despite her weariness, wields tremendously powerful attacks, not the least of which is the awesome Master Spark

For no apparent reason, large quantities of demons and youkai begin to travel from Makai, the world of demons, to Gensokyo, swamping the land and leaving Reimu Hakurei with a lot of extermination to do. Frustrated, Reimu tracks the source of the invasion to "The Cave in Which the Door to Makai is Said to Be," which lies in the mountains behind the Hakurei Shrine. Reimu decides that it is her duty as a shrine maiden to root out the cause of this mess. Unbeknownst to her, Marisa Kirisame has learned of her plans and decides to follow along with the hope of discovering some unique powers to steal within Makai. Elsewhere, Mima, the evil spirit of the Hakurei Shrine, and Yuka Kazami, the youkai, decide to travel to Makai as well, although they have their own reasons for doing so.

Within the cave, the heroine encounters the guardian of the gateway to Makai, Sara, and dispatches her with ease before beginning a high-speed flight through the boundary between worlds. Therein the heroine happens across a demon traveling in the opposite direction named Luize and crushes her as well. The heroine then arrives in Makai above a massive dark city, where she is confronted by Alice Margatroid, who attacks her with the help of her living dolls. After defeating her, the heroine flies away from the city and toward a grim fortress that rises up in distance. Along the way the witches Yuki and Mai appear and attempt to impede her progress, ultimately to little effect.

>>4194495
Entering the fortress Pandæmonium, the heroine soars past fantastic crystal designs while battling through legions of enemies. At the top she is met by a strange individual named Shinki who politely informs her that the demon invasion is entirely the fault of a civilian travel agency that is arranging tours of Gensokyo and that it lies outside of her jurisdiction. Before the protagonist can inquire as to the meaning of this they are interrupted by Yumeko, who adamantly insists that Shinki retire so that she may dispose of their uninvited guest. After defeating the maid, the protagonist meets Shinki again, who now explains that she is actually the god and creator of Makai itself. She promises to look into the tourist issue, but only after severely punishing the heroine for disrupting her realm so. This final battle is extraordinarily violent and Shinki's tremendous power leaves much of Makai in flames.

At an unspecified later date, the heroine again encounters Alice Margatroid, this time in a strange wonderland. Alice now possesses a large grimoire that grants her great magical powers and challenges the heroine to a rematch. After a lengthy battle and her second defeat, Alice laments her inability to defeat the heroine before fleeing with the book.

so touhouwiki hijacks a touhou humor thread?
i want uninformed reimu dammit

>>4194533
Pretty accurate depiction of the Touhouverse

>PC-98

>>4194563
no cirno
you are not reimu
you don't even have the miko outfit

>>4194254
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shut upfag

*sigh* uninformed in general thread than?

last one i have

>>4194602
post that in anontalk, not here

>>4194602
Don't post there, they want you there because they are ronery. Otherwise they wouldn't bother trolling 4chan.

>>4194622
That is Anontalk itself.
He's getting craftier

Wait, guys, anontalk is a real place?

>>4194587
What now?

>>4194647

>>4194622

>>4194662
hahahahahahahahahhaaha

yes it is
it's full of pedos

I always wondered how does it feel to put up with the hatred and all the shit that fans give her in return for saving the entire Gensokyo throughout the games.
Reimu is a tragic hero.

>>4194721
Reimu wasn't actually saving Gensokyo on PCB, IN, MoF and UFO.

>>4194721
I agree that Reimu is a tragic hero but not for that reason.

She sits at the shrine all day, does nothing, gets annoyed when people come bother her with anything, and just wants to sit and drink tea and sleep all day. She has no hobbies. And yet, she has to save the world all the time, and she does so grudgingly, not really giving a shit about anyone else's problems, occasionally intervening even when there are no actual problems.

Reimu has many of the signs of clinical depression.

>>4194716

Not 2D lolicons either.

Genuine, 3D child loving pedophiles.

>>4194804
Pig disgusting. Such horrible tastes.

>>4194760
She wasn't doing this in EoSD, PoFV or SA either. And let's not even get into PC-98 games.

>>4194827
>orin's intestine hair
I'm never going to unsee that.

>>4194837
Yeah, because a thick fog that covered the sun entirely wasn't a threat to the entire Gensokyo at all.

>>4194869
>covered the sun entirely
It could have just been around the mansion. We don't know the extent of the mist. And it seemed sunny enough in stage 3 regardless.

>>4194886
Remilia wanted to spread it across the entire Gensokyo, so that she could walk freely during the day.

>>4194837
here we go with the reimu hate again.
guys, this mame is even less funny than cirno=9 and sanae= slut, stop that.

>>4194904
Except it's not even a meme. It's a character interpretation grounded in actual game dialogue and canon actions of the character, rather than just LOOOOL SAKUYA PADS

>>4194886
>>4194902
Perfect Memento in Strict Sense mentions that it was Gensokyo-wide.

>>4194919
This.

>>4194919
sakuya pads is grounded in shitty canonart.
and sanae= slut being canon probebly means you are trolling me

why do insist on calling reimu evil? what the fuck is wrong with you?

Reimu Hakurei... I don't get why she gets all the hate in the Touhou fandom.

What are the main complaints? She killed youkai and murdered innocent fairies?

Okay, let's get this straight. She never fucking killed youkai. She never did it. She never did it. She never did it. She never did it. She had tea with youkai.

Touhou 6: Reimu enforces environmental standards.
Touhou 7: Reimu puts the dead to rest.
Touhou 8: Reimu puts an end to a terrorist plot to destroy the moon.
Touhou 9: Reimu straightens out the corrupt bureaucracy in the judicial system.
Touhou 10: Reimu deals with religious intolerance.
Touhou 11: Reimu promotes nuclear non-proliferation.
Touhou 12: Reimu defends the world from extraterrestrials.

>>4194950
You are just ASKING for someone to post this, don't you?

And yes, I know it's wrong. As wrong as your arguments are.

>>4194946
>and sanae= slut being canon probebly means you are trolling me
I never once said that. Shut up.
>>4194950
>She never fucking killed youkai. She never did it. She never did it. She never did it. She never did it. She had tea with youkai.
Whether or not Reimu kills them is ambiguous (they're seen in the endings on some occasions, the minor youkai are never mentioned again) but she undeniably 'exterminates' them which seems like it would be quite painful.

>>4194950
Reimu killed shit in the PC-98 games. And no one is complaining about her killing shit anyway.

...wait, copy pasta?

>>4194946
Just read her ingame dialogues and read each game's plot. Just do it.

lulz Reimu is a bitch XDDD

i hate fanon

>>4194986
I hate samefags.

>>4194994

I hate you.

>>4194969
it's not like reimu just goes around tomenting innocent youkai. she is battling them, and on fair grounds i might add.

>>4194968
so? its just some words.
1 reimu kills jesus with her bare heands
2 reimu exterminates the dinosaurs
3 marisa found a nickel
4 youkai moe~ why why
5 gangrape on poor shinki
6 reimu kill jesus again
7 marisa learns to count
8 a huge party
9 another party
10 reimu wage a crusade
10.5 reimu cause haiti

see just writing it doesn't make it real.

>>4194994
Forgot your trip.

>>4195009
It's been so long since I've been in the same thread as such an obvious twelve-year old.

>>4194977
i did.
badass!= evil

we ARE talking about human eating youkais here.

>>4195008
This picture is funny because the maker felt it necessary to label Reimu, even though he couldn't even fit her name on one line.

>>4195018
to the abyss with you

>>4194904
Yes, I'm hating Reimu because I'm pointing out facts. What the fuck is wrong with you?

>>4195024
Sorry, what was that? I can't hear you over being the best character in UFO.

>>4195019
What you wrote doesn't even made sense.

>>4195027
i don't understand why is it cool to hate the good guys just because they are the ones in charge.

i guess it is the rebelious age?

>>4195019
>human eating youkai

Oh, come on. No one accuses Reimu of EATING youkai.

>>4195040
reimu is badaas. prove me wrong

>>4195037
so how come sakuya has snakes and frogs? keep dreaming (f)anon.

>>4195043
What you don't understand is logic, sarcasm, and apparently a lot more aspects of English language.

>>4195047
you, back to /b/, this is importent issue that will influance the fate of gensokyo.

This joke is on the same level as BAKA BAKA Cirno XD, ronery, pathetic Alice and other IOSYS shit used by pooshlmer residents.

>here we go with the reimu hate again.

>>4195052
sorry, there are just to many ppl who actually hate reimu and not just in sarcasm, and i couldn't tell a person pretending to be stupid from an actual reimu hater.

>>4195062
baka is just another name for cirno, like zombie for reimu. it isn't funny, but it isn't hurting anyone.

pathetic alice? where did THAT come from?

>>4195051
Prove Reimu is badass, first.

>>4195072

What happened to your capitalization?

>>4195062
>this joke
Whatever makes you feel good, dude, but this is in no way the same league as 'sakuya pads' and 'sanae is a slut'.

But then I guess you're immune to her in-game dialogue because you've never played any.

>>4195089
whan i asked you to prove me she is evil you told me
read her dialoge.

i suggest you go and do the same.
PS reimu dialoge on meiling route in 12.3 does not count.

ITT /jp/ trolls itself

>>4195110
>NO U

DURR HURR
KUNUSHI-SAN JIKI NI SHITE KUDACHI....

>>4195110
Meiling route is 100% true and I will not have you asserting otherwise.

I'm sick of people attempting to disparage our poor, hardworking gateguard.

Personal preferences:
Reimu is a bitch
[x] Yes
[ ] No

This makes her
[x] Awesome
[ ] Terrible

>>4195125
if you want others to prove their claims whan you failed to prove your own, what else can you expect?

>>4194303

>Cirno's stupidity, Yuyuko's gluttony, etc. In Reimu's case, it's her cluelessness.
>In Reimu's case, it's her cluelessness.

Wat. No seriously, when was this ever considered a character trait in Reimu? If anything she picks up on things more then most the others. Her intuition is one of the most abused plot devices in the series, both canon and doujin works.

>>4195130
>poor, hardworking gateguard

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UF2QuTncDPs

>>4195139
I...

I'm going to bed.

To all the Reimu haters.

>>4195140
It wasn't, ever. The guy's making fun of this spam. Geez.

>>4195140
It's not, he's making a joke using the OP (which itself is a semi-daily-dose meme).
The original line was
>Cirno's stupidity, Yuyuko's gluttony, etc. In Reimu's case, it's her bitchiness.

>>4195148
so am i, seeya tommarow

>>4195140
>she picks on things

Fixed.

Oh, and youkai aren't things. Well, some of them are, but not all.

>>4195138

It's pretty much the same with me, I like Reimu's aggressive nature. She's refreshing as a main protagonist. She doesn't like to be bothered, but has a duty to fulfil and tries to take the easiest method whenever a incident turns up. The easiest method for her is to beat down every likely suspect until she gets the right one, less effort then actual investigation and youkai always need to know who the boss is.

>>4195110
PCB = Reimu fucks up a flower viewing event and even battles Yuyuko after being told to wait only a little bit longer until spring returns.
IN = Eirin and Kaguya put a blockade between Earth and the Moon to prevent angry Lunarians from invading Earth (Lunarians had two good reasons to do it: to capture Kaguya and as a payback for the Apollo missions), and Reimu disrupts the plan even after knowing it is a defense measure that was only going to last a night.
UFO = Reimu gets greedy over a merchant cargo ship and aboards it to loot its treasure.

Now go play the actual games, faggot.

>>4195138
Reimu being a bitch is not a personal preference. It's a fact. Yeah, I know, little brown Tewi, but I like to stick to canon. I LIKE canon. Yes, this includes Reimu.

>>4195192
Her methods are more a product of the type of game; an excuse has to made so she can fight several people, regardless. Kind of like stories in fighting games, it will always end in a fight, just have to make up a new reason for each one.

>>4195188

Youkai are monsters who best understand the language of violence. Beating them down every so often reminds them who the alpha female is, along with the consequences of acting up.

Some youkai like to think they aren't monsters, but the majority of them ruin any chance of youkai on the whole being treated as anything but. Also, why didn't Byakuren just stand down and refuse to fight the moment Reimu started to get aggressive? Doesn't seem like she minds violence too much herself.

>>4195062
>This joke is on the same level as BAKA BAKA Cirno XD, ronery, pathetic Alice and other IOSYS shit used by pooshlmer residents.
>ronery, pathetic Alice

put Alice is lonely and you should feel bad

>>4195219
She tried to talk Reimu out of it and Reimu wasn't listening to her, so she defended herself. Compared to Shou's spell cards, rather poorly, as if her heart wasn't in it.

>>4195219
>why didn't Byakuren just stand down and refuse to fight the moment Reimu started to get aggressive

Reimu is a monster who best understands the language of violence. Beating her down every so often reminds her who the alpha female is, along with the consequences of acting up.

>>4195217

If that were the case there would be no reason Reimu couldn't be more like Sanae (not that she's much better) or the youkai themselves be more aggressive. Reimu's personality is intentional, it's reflected in other character's views of her, such as Sikieiki giving Reimu a lecture.

There is only so much people can hide behind the 'because it's a fighting game' excuse for a main character's personality. Reimu is clearly a case of ZUN finding that kind of protagonist amusing and intentionally giving them those kind of personalities, which is why we can read about Reimu and Marisa giving Rinnosuke a bad time at his shop. They just aren't nice people. It's part of the joke.

>>4195251

sounds like you are beginning to understand how Gensokyo works.

>>4195257
It's just a product of the type of game. To me, the only exceptions are they touhou fighters; I think the dialogue in those say a lot more about the characters than the dialogue in the shooters. Of course, the fighters contain a lot more dialogue, so that's probably why.

>>4195257
What makes you think it's a joke?

ZUN is just a really good writer and he realizes that's the only way to give main characters of shooting games any kind of likeable personality. Decent people don't normally go around shooting everything that moves. The inherent hypocrisy of the plot is always a much bigger turn-off than whatever Reimu/Marisa/disposable third human character actually do will ever be. They're just better that way, period.

>>4195275

Perhaps the same could be said about any video game character. Ultimately the creator can either embrace the mechanics of the game into their characters personalities, or try to explain them in other ways. ZUN went with embracing the mechanics of the game into the games story. Spell card rules are a key example of this; a in game mechanic that has been explained in character within the series as an agreement between all parties. The same happens in Reimu's dialogue and how other characters react to her with references to her in game actions against all kinds of opponents.

Sure, if it wasn't a shooting game, Reimu's actions wouldn't be the same, but the whole game part was taken into account when she was created and her personality created around it. That and she's unconventional even as a protagonist of a shooting game.

To sum up, the point is Reimu's personality can't be excused as merely a result of the game she's in. It's intentional and gets referred to in all fiction about her regardless of the type of game she's in.

I actually like Marisa because of her attitude

I don't think Reimu would be friends with people who hate her though

>>4195325

I don't know exactly how you are taking my use of the word 'joke' here, but it's always been pretty clear the Touhou series is meant to be taken lightly with many pokes at it's own characters throughout.

I'm not saying she's some huge joke character, but that her personality isn't serious. She takes things in her stride, does things at her own pace and is in many ways more human then most protagonists in how she deals with her duties. Most dialogue in the game is done in jest anyway to ZUN's unique sense of humour, part of that humour is how Reimu deals with youkai, to the point it often gets commented on.

>>4195410
Fine, scratch the "joke" part. The rest stands.

Requesting unsuspecting Reimu.