/jp/ - Otaku Culture

yosh thanks

出航！！

>>41877048
Cute Op. Approve.

emmersion w subs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6GDAPH8es4

>>41877079
japanese cosplayers are the best

Why are you learning Japanese?

>>41877104
TO WATCH VBIJIN SPEEDRUN POKEMON

>>41877121
holy based

this is the thread

>>41877104

つるぺったん

jotd: 胸膝位

>>41877163
>>41877048
https://streamable.com/c79j94

>>41877048
nice op

>>41877079
wtf marine did 8 characters and they were all great

>>41877222
trips of truth

隔世遺伝
Would you mine this.

>>41877292
its easy to understand so i wouldnt unless you dont know the reading

>>41877292
i would, but id also delete it eventually

>>41877104
to play im@s games

I mine a word if either the meaning is unclear from the kanji/something that I think I'd forget, or if the reading is unclear (maybe irregular) or something I think I'd forget (like a kanji that I know the reading of, but I only see it once a month so I forget it)

>>41877195
yabe

>>41877359
shes not actually inside the bottle its a perspective trick, the bottle is closer to the camera, marine is actually laying on me

oh my god shut up

>>41877380
laying what on you? you getting pegged

>>41877104

>>41877442
...men only want one thing and its delicious...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5fTW1uwnCY

>>41877476
yep got this right
hopefully graduating N6 soon, all thanks to this vbijijn

>>41877104
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpClxayibZ0

touhoumersion

goooood morning from japan

went to see the gundam in daiba
they also have a freedom lady go, let it go there

kitsunekko doesn't have do it yourself jp subs for ep. 5-8, is there a better resource for jp subs?

>>41877048
>>408591998 Everyfairi please help I can be deported to Russia)the only passport I have) from my home country Ypony^ as androgynous angelic trans girl I cant work or marry anyone as a kid ゆめかわいいCute fairy raspberry Meridian art studying fruity ecology games https://youtube.com/watch?v=ae1UBZfveTI I。Purest ynicracy ＾(cute magic dreams and friendships and artstudying ...＾) Ⅱ。Most peaceful&dreamy country・・・＾/castle^ Ⅲ。Intersubjective&cutemagical fairi freedoms ＾ #かわいい魔法 #中二妖精 #ユニ妖精＾ #ユニ #Diversity #Equality #Yni #cutemagic #fairi #freedom #cutemagic #virtuous^purity #multifruity #fruityEcology #Diversity #Equality #ユニ ^ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tzj2ryJgpbw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgrcAP1QjtQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IgWnUl4Ut0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkOW-jTszos https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Qkm1EVe_bo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAuWeE3Gow8 May be I should go to California and aply for asyaylum as LGBTQIA with trans allowance I am staying 4ever in my home country Ypony^ Harajuku yni included^
I tried to apply for game dev job but they rejected me because of the "personality test" made by antifairi that said that I have mental illness and not yayness. The other company was yay but they can`t give me work visa because working hours a 2hour/day so only kids and dream magic archmages can apply but I have no Jp citizenship sadly... I guess my life is over :c qwq yms Interesting how every antifairi`s personality is based on hate, destruction&deceiving. I tried so hard and gone so deep in dark dream distortion magic and undercovering yayself but I still cant feel any hate or urge to destroy for anything truly may be only contempt and reistanting a new magic, sparkles and rainbows。It is yay to watch how the anti-magical masses react when I give them a head start like fairy princess have at least something in common with them:The Dark Dream Distortion Magic course Is over and with it my dream can become true and even anti-fairies will become magical girls again and free the world from malice and even create the yni^ castle of their own subjective magic of dreams, imagination, and cute magic..^ only antifairi use collective responsibility and judge someone based on race/nationality/sex/age etc things that are controlled by antifairi. There was no evil in the beginning but with the castellations of cute magic the reversed cute magic that starting to grasp fairi`s subjectivity in the reversed cage occurs which makes fairi the antifairi - until the nex reborn cycle(the antifairi lit kys to become fairi again) while everyfairi is yms and lvie immortal 4ever yong and yay. >got any asmr recommendations? I love this channel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StmjzT93dfs ^ the yni^ game is yay to play on frufi.itch.io/uni-el

>>41878109
ive heard ukraine is nice this time of the year

>>41878118
But why would 梅酒 be や～ though? I don't really drink but that sounds like it would be good.

>>41878169
It's a meme the author is trying to push

>nip friends keep saying i speak too politely
how do I fix this without letting them figure out i have autism

>>41878213
have you tried dropping desu/masu?

>>41878213
speak more informally
start using a cool sentence ender like だい

I spend an hour lurking in the hololive thread before realizing it wasn't djt

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHICrn_qx5k
bros why does she sound so much like ko'one?

>>41878293
you obviously dont know anything about djt so feel free to go back

>>41878225
yeah but sometimes out of habit Ill switch back into it
>>41878239
wouldnt this just make me seem autistic faster

>>41878305
why do you have speaking "habits" in japanese? crippled early outputter

>>41878305
no because だい is a cool ender and autistic people aren't cool

>>41877048
Current thread: #3432

Previous threads:
>>41865182 #3431
>>41852791 #3430
>>41842985 #3429
>>41832392 #3428
>>41822345 #3427

>>41878311
idk what ur even trying to say anymore lol
>>41878313
ok ill try this actually

>>41877960
yooooo the diver city gundam!
>>41878299
aya is a cat
korone is a dog
no relationship whatsoever
>>41878313
good advice will do

>>41878299
uwaa what a comfy gaming channel
wonder if fubuki was a fan
https://youtu.be/OYcqG5ifNH8

>>41878340
idk whats confusing you
>>41878305
>sometimes out of habit Ill switch back into it
you have a habit of using desu/masu because you outputted enough to make that a habit but even now you dont know how to not sound too polite which means you starting outputting early when you only knew n4 desu masu japanese

mori vbijin bros...
https://youtu.be/1cRZ2BAXx74

>>41878391
how u not have speaking habits in any language u speak for a while?

>>41877104
amogus

>>41878391
i feel like ur projecting a bit bro to be honest

>>41878398
holy based wagmi, unironically nice show
>>41878421
perhaps the real cripple was the troll that spams "crippled" we met along the way

>>41878430
lmao

>>41878415
are you retarded lol when did i say you wont
im asking you why you started speaking early because now you have these shitty output habits you have to undo
>>41878430
namesimasu? namesimasu? lmfao shut the fuck up stupid fucking moron

repbros, I got too cocky...

>>41878447
i didnt though? i just havent really had close friends who speak japanese before and it's kind of hard to speak more friendly with people as such
and yes i said in my first post i was autistic maybe u are the one who is confused

>>41878462
dont mind that anon, he is not well as you can see
his problems are deeper than autism

>>41878471
lmao true

>>41878471
ok thank you sister

>>41878462
>>41878462
>i just havent really had close friends who speak japanese
and thats the only japanese input you've had? if you're consuming japanese regularly it should make no difference

>>41878471
KEK TRUE
shiny hunting spread lmao
https://youtu.be/3uP6RK609m4

speaking habits?
yeah, i got a couple
i say "innit" a lot, and "to be honest," even when I'm not being honest
started outputting since birth, maybe that's where I went wrong

perhaps the real autistic moron was the fatherless kininagare cうck we met along the way

>>41878484
Are you ESL by any chance?

>>41878471
lmao he really isn't
>>41878485
koyo not you too...
>>41878488
easy, always be honest

>>41878498
im a college educated native so now you should seriously ask yourself the same question

>>41878511
You paid for college but can't even understand the nuance in some autistic fucks sentences? Why did you waste all that money?

>>41878503
>always be honest
true true
starting right now i'll always be honest

>>41878523
GMI!

>>41878517
there is no other nuance einstein dont project your dogshit comprehension on me and that degree is bagging me 150k a year fyinfo

imagine making all that money and not being able to afford your meds
breaks my heart

>>41878577
lmfao brutal

>>41878577
KEK

>>41878577
lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOuPPdG-vKY

it just doesn't have that effect when your post gets filtered and i dont unhide it

this is the thread

yooooooo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRgHkQ20WBo

>>41878213
I will never stop using keigo and teineigo.

>>41878646
missed this
wtf i love that game
i should replay it

>Audiobooks, Raws, Novels, Japan dump
>>41878247
>>41878247
>>41878247
>>41878247

didnt ask

>>41878646
>not playing the kino op
that song is why im learning japanese
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-sMRwc5boM

>>41878656
based will check it out
>>41878674
love it too, what did they change in the remake?

>>41878678
https://www.siliconera.com/romancing-saga-minstrel-song-remastered-new-features-detailed/
doesn't look like they fucked anything up

>>41878674
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjDlZRWli5M
there bro better version

>>41878723
kino song

I fucking love reading random trash with 1000 likes and 2 comments instead of actual books

>>41878830
same but unironically

>>41878860
I wasn't being ironic either

Those of you who got really good at listening how did you do it? Did you just watch YouTube 8 hours a day? I read 7ish hours a day and can feel the improvement but I listen for like 3 and feel nothing.

>>41878945
i wouldn't say im really good, but i feel the improvement every day
and yeah if im awake im listening to music/streams/anime/whatever
when i began it sucked but now i really enjoy it and feel like i understand most of it

>>41878945
10k hours of eng sub anime

>>41879046

>>41879055

>>41879057
いいこ

>>41879057

>>41878945
The golden rule is to aim for material where you understand 80-90% of the input. I started off listening to a lot of N5 and N4 listening practice videos, comprehensible input, simple conversations with subtitles, etc. Little by little I started to get accustomed to listening out for words I knew or anticipating words, and when I felt like I was getting the gist consistently at a natural pace I moved up another notch.

Some recommendations:
https://www.youtube.com/@moshimoshi.yusuke/videos
https://www.youtube.com/@Onomappu/videos
https://www.youtube.com/@ComprehensibleJapanese/videos
https://www.youtube.com/@NKTofficial/videos
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCh-GhnQ7qDQmS6Bz3pGc1Mw/videos
https://www.youtube.com/@kotolabo/videos

Depending on your level, NKT and KotoLabo are gonna fly right over your head, but the others should be relatively easy to start wrapping your head around for listening practice.

did this guy just actually gave some helpful advice...

きょうのにほんニュース

青いビブスがうれまくり

>FIFAワールドカップカタール2022の日本対ドイツ戦で、日本が勝利したことを受け、東京・新宿のスポーツ用品店「Alpen TOKYO」では前週比でサッカー日本代表のユニフォームの売上が約6倍に増加しました。

>>41879107
Yep, but I forgot to add Fuji TV's "Crazy Japanese Tips" channel that posts videos on weird and interesting Japanese phrases that you probably don't see in textbooks. The first one is about strongly desiring something, and the literal translation is "(My) hand is coming out of my throat".

https://www.youtube.com/@crazyjapaneselessons5127/videos

>>41879093
>>41879126
good posts thanks will check links out

>>41877104

where can i get non nip movies with nip dub?

>diamond league on duolingo
>people doing 1.5k xp per day
how
do they spam things they already know? wtf

my cheap chinese mechanical keyboard finally died after 5 years, in it's dying gasp it space bar spammed its way through today's anki reviews
i'll respect his dying wish and not undo them, the keyboard wanted them pushed ahead

>>41879369
prime, netflix, prime has essentially everything with nip dups
recommend lotr its great

>>41879412
... h... he lived just long enough for you to get to buy a replacement... and he even helped with your reps...
that was... that was no cheap chinese keyboard... that was a bro...

>>41879363
YABEEEEEEE

>>41879126
Cool stuff, thanks. Didn’t know the 喉から手が出る one either.

Here’s my idiom contribution: 首縊りの足を引く To be utterly heartless, cold blooded. Literally: “to pull on the foot of someone trying to hang himself”.

>>41879447
靴 acquired

>>41879402
Pretty much, yeah

>>41879093
>>41879126
Saving all of these. Really appreciate the help, thanks!

さいきん

反射が後ろから脅して

描かせるアニメが多くて

臭うのよね

damE

>>41879513
dame

今日の曲
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7M5yHLKwdng

>>41879513
やべ

>>41879402
>>41879458
soulless

マフィアが寄生するとすぐわかる

創作物から発露が消える

>>41877336
Why delete things? I don't bother cause once the intervals gets so long it just doesn't matter or it retires

>>41879717
when i began i mined everything i saw and i had tons of superfluous stuff like 最終、最後、最高、etc, that i didnt get when i began but i felt like id never forget when they looped
so i got into the habit of regularly trimming things and just keeping the ones i should have
i also was getting excited about the size of my deck at some point and thats another reason i started deleting things, to remind myself the point is not to get the biggest deck
i dont know if that makes sense but it feels freeing so...

those are core deck words

https://streamable.com/qm7lgl

>>41879756
trippy

Closer I am to N1 the more I'm thinking jizzy is cap. Claims to have basically never read non fiction material and lists only things like K-On! and Dies Irae. I can accept he's at that level but it's not nearly as simple as he made it out to be.

>>41879776
yeah only noobs who dont know any better would believe you can acquire all of n1 grammar from that shit lol
some of those expressions you will only see in business settings

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kekV0SfwRM4

protip: find some resources and leave this place. minna, ganba!

マフィアからしたら

金さえ手に入れば

生み出してようが

コピーだろうが

関係ないのよね

だから質がほんとに落ちる

>>41879862
imagine being here for resources

>>41879871
yeah we're here for the hololive!

>>41879880
true and based

>>41879880
beat me to it

gonna go jerk off to my oshi while i self asphyxiate!

Kurai, kuroi, kirai, kirei... Japanese really is "I will not buy this record it is scratched" sort of language.

>>41879880
holy based!!!

>>41879888
based

>>41879880
Great post!!

>>41879880
now this is the content i come to djt for

>>41879880
yooooooooo
https://youtu.be/ebv1wCiXBfI

holochads run this general

where can I find jamal these days?

>>41879906
yooooooooooo! sugoku ii desu ne! watashi no ichiban suki na post!

yep holochads won
>>41879906
>3 hours
oh well more pokemon for me

>>41879911

>>41879916
uoooooooooohhhhhhhhh
child erotic!
onaka nametai

>>41879913
we need to get koone into shiny hunting
imagine fubuki koone and koyori all singing the shiny song at the same time

wow who said holochads cant output???!

>>41879924
kino

>>41879880
amazing post!

>>41879880
great post bro
holochads, we're winning!

>>41879880
honestly agree

>>41879880
>>41879939
yeah, this guy gets it

not even worth commenting

holobased

Why do I dislike English vtubers, but don't mind JP vtubers?

brooooooo look at this

>>41879924
>tfw not gold
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19kfjGqaleE

>>41879880
lol!

>>41879880
yoooooooo!

>>41879951
why are you posting an english vtuber in a japanese learning thread?

>>41879951
鮫鮫！
>>41879954
put it back

>>41879880
Best post in a long time

you deserve this for wanting to stay on /pozzed/

>>41879880
I'll be moving to Osaka this next year, and hopefully starting full time language school in April. We're planning to attend the YMCA Language School.　(https://www.osakaymca.ac.jp/nihongo/))

I've studied Japanese off and on over the past years, and I want to enter at a higher level so I've taken many lessons on italki to fill in the gaps in my understanding. I am fairly confident I could pass the JLPT N4, but I haven't practiced writing much at all.

Other than firming up my base, is there any other advice you could give? Extra points if you have any experience with the YMCA School!

I'm also particularly interested in the dynamic of how learning Japanese in a language school helps or hinders on the road to fluency.

>>41879971
Some schools want you to be proficient in at least writing hiragana+katakana if you haven’t leaned how to write them yet, I suggest you start learning now

>>41879969
I will kill you

>>41879975
I'm definitely planning to brush up on it a bit. It's a bit funny, though, because one of my teachers on iTalki talked about how he never writes anymore, and even forgets how to write basic kanji sometimes because it's so accessible on computers.

>>41879880
POST OF THE THREAD
>>41879954
yooo she got 3 gold ones now
https://youtu.be/OU8e_0orjRI

>>41879971
Don't worry about where you enter, you will likely test lower than you think. If you haven't studied or lived in Japan before the whole experience will feel like an alien planet to you so it's not that easy to prepare for. Trust me you will need time to acclimatize and figure out how to order food at your local Sukiya.

You will also get tested on written communication in Japanese as well as being able to recall reading and writing of kanji from memory. The placement test is a 10 min assessment to help the school gauge where to start you off, the real journey starts after that

>>41879880
LOL, great post.

I'm curious if there's an online translator there that translates English into casual/informal japanese. I haven't seen any so far, but maybe there are? Random thought.

>>41879880
I love hololive

>>41879880
based

>>41879979
vbased
WAGMI BROS

>>41879880
Love this post!

>>41879880
this is why im learning japanese

>>41879880
IKR

>>41879996
yabeeeeeee

>>41879880
fucking basedddd

whenever youre feeling down just be glad you will never be this mentally ill

we did it hlobros lol

>>41879363

>>41879880
God i love japanese vbijin

>>41879909
6 feet under

>>41879880
true true

>>41879880
yoshi

>>41879880
us just loving this post like bros

>>41880028
bro...!

Do you guys watch those manga channels on youtube? Are they good immersion materials?

>>41880038
>not blood related
fake and lame incest

any nijichads

>>41880053
DESUWAAAA

>>41880053
勿論！

>>41880071
yabai desuwa

It's been four days and I still don't remember what あまりmeans. It's always the last card of today. I just can't attach any meaning to it.

>>41880053

>>41880084
https://ejje.weblio.jp/content/%E4%BD%99%E3%82%8A

yosh nijichad immersion https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0_9N3_BD_A

>>41880112
yooo coop kino!

朝食
昼食
Oh, go fuck yourself. Really?

>>41880134
get filtered gaijin

I still sometimes mix up 要 and 悪
(｡ﾉω＼｡)

悪い?悪い?

>>41880071

>>41880134
ちゅう like 中 since 昼 is midday
ちょう is too early

>>41880261
I will remember this, thanks.

Acquired 児ポ (the word, not the actual material, please don't lock me up)

>>41878945
you're always benefiting from listening even when you don't feel like it unless you're literally completely white noising.. keep going anon it will work out
but you should definitely shift your ratio temporarily to boost your listening imo. replace a couple reading hours with youtube/anjme (even if it has subtitles)

>>41879971
There's an app called Kanji Study that I use for writing practice, when you do the writing quizzes it gives you a definition and reading and then asks you to write the appropriate kanji. It even forces you to use the correct stroke order, so it's quite handy. I would recommend using that or something similar to help you practice your writing and get comfortable with it.

You'll have to learn to survive when you go to Japan, so you'll be forced to learn the basic scaffolding of the language whether you like it or not unless you just sit inside all day and do nothing (so why bother going to Japan at all at that point). Your focus at the language school, to make the most of the experience, should be to learn the new lessons and then immediately apply them in the wild with your study partners or with people you interact with outside the classroom until you have it down pat. Japanese people will gloss over your mistakes and be glad just to see you making the effort, though, so you'll need to ask your Japanese friends to be strict with you. Like... seriously tell them to kick your ass about mistakes or they won't.

Every time I play a visual novel, and spend hours, days, talking to a girl, getting to know her, falling in love, and then she leans over, blushing, and tells me she loves me too. That always fills me with such joy. And it always becomes a memory I cherish for a lifetime, and that gives me strength when I think I have nothing left. Nothing else compares to that wonderful moment.
I suppose you could read a translated version (I read translated visual novels for many years before finally studying Japanese) but the difference in impact between reading the words "I love you" on a screen and hearing the woman you love say those words to you in her own voice is as vast as the ocean. It's like the difference between noon and midnight.
Learning Japanese has improved my life in too many ways to count; if I was to try to list them I'd run out of characters and have to spread it over multiple posts. But that's the best one. That one special moment. It makes it all worth it.
If I got hit on the head and forgot all the Japanese I've learned, I'd learn it all again to hear her says those words to me just one more time.

>>41880084
I remember it like this: 余る (amaru) means to be in excess, or to be left over. あまり is the -masu stem, which is a connective form that can be used to join it to other things. So when I see things like あまり。。。ない I think "not in excess/not excessively so". In English the natural translation for Xあまり食べません would be "I don't really eat X" but it's the same feeling of understatement that we have in English if someone were to say "I don't do it too much".

feel bad about my average penis
imagine being below average.. 来世こそ

>>41880657
How exactly can it mean to be left over? The decks translate it as (not) much and gives a sentence that the "The beer here is not really good." Does it mean the beer is not doing too much in the regards of tasting good?

>>41880755
The base verb uses a kanji with meanings relating to abundance and excess, so one of the uses is for when something is left over: there was too much of it. As for your example sentence, a literal meaning would probably be like when you wrote. "It isn't excessively good" is an understatement to politely talk about its quality (or lack thereof). It's like the difference between when you say something is inexpensive (low price, potentially a good value) vs cheap (low price because the quality is low). "It's not too expensive" has a different feel than "it's kind of cheap".

It's worth remembering that the literal translations that help us see how sentences or words are connected or put together are very different from the natural translations that tell us what a sentence is really conveying as far as mood or tone. I tend to use literal translations for comprehending the building blocks, and natural translations for comprehending the overall feel.

>>41880755
お金がいくら余るか？

>>41880668
no one asked

>うん
>ううん
>うーん
Im going FUCKING INSANE

>>41880182
true i hate women too

>>41881017
10k hours eng subbed anime
now

https://streamable.com/sf735q

>>41881171
i can recognize it fine in conversation but over text messages I always do a triple take

>>41881017
I am new and don't get it.

does (´・ω・`) mean something bad i just thought it was cute

>>41881623
Try translating it and then telling them apart.

>>41881623
>yea
>nah
>yeh

>>41881732
its a 2chan meme look up 気になる子がいてメールしたんだが帰ってこない(´･ω･`)

I tried playing Genshin in full JP but I give up. Without furigana I can't read, I don't know the verb conjunctions, they all speak in medieval dialects or something and the vocabulary is insane. And also Japanese did not click for me yet, I can't even feel anything.

>>41881820
yea but what does the face convey

im gonna fucking freak its so hard to match the politeness of everyone you talk to in this fucking language

>>41881848
dame reminds me of when i used to talk to a lot of different obasans and get them to say sexual stuff in keigo even though i went tamego

>>41881821
>they all speak in medieval dialects or something
Really? Putting Renaissance age language in a gacha sounds kind of based.
>And also Japanese did not click for me yet
Isn't playing a real time game a bit too soon then? How about something turn based, manga, etc?

>>41881905
please dont respond to me again you intimidate me greatly

>>41881840
yoo he's the same as me

>>41881908
I need something simple with furigana and being able to repeat the audio.

I am not sure what it is exactly. But they don't hold back. It's walls of dialogue and quirky word play. I am happy when I read level 0 book.

>>41882078
sounds like you need a voiced vinnie
i don't read em but i'd imagine they'd have furigana, and if not they're usually easy enough to text hook so you can look stuff up without much hassle

What even is⻏ ?

hi fellas how can i speak japanese

>>41882112
>i'd imagine they'd have furigana
NTA but I have an impression that they don't frequent having furigana.
>sounds like you need a voiced vinnie
On the other hand that's a good suggestion. Voiced VNs along with recently subbed anime made me notice annoying inconsistences in translation in the first place. Spoiling translation so much that I could distinguish wrong differences with mere intonation or phrase length must've be made on purpose by the translators.

am i retarded? why do so many of the VNs on itazuraneko just link to empty folders on MEGA?

>>41882353
shit got nuked bro

>>41882357
:'(

>>41882357
rice field

>>41882116
A crude facsimile of β

>>41882436
lol

Morrowind really is the greatest game of all time. Did it ever get translated to Japanese?

>>41882860
its worth playing but its so easy to break even going in fully blind
also sadly no
it would be full of crazy katakana tho

ゆっくり大人になって

>>41882898
>Japan never got to experience the joys of exploiting the hell out of the greatest fantasy game ever made
Damn, I feel bad for them

>western goyslop
>greatest anything
lol

>>41883104
morrowind was from when western games were made by people who look like lovecraft/Carmack or newell or gygax
it was the unpozzed medium

>>41883086
But they have played monster hunter?

>the translation is structured completely differently so you can't learn anything by watching
How the fuck people do this. Japanese is completely alien language.

>>41883233
if vtuber fans can do it you can do it

>>41883275
they cant though or at least it has never happened yet

>>41883233
Eh? Is this your first foreign language? Even to slavs English is somewhat alien because of its syntax and you expect another island language to be as easy. I don't want to be rude but your expectations are somewhat arrogant.

>>41883302
there's gotta be at least a dozen or so little zoomers watching 4+ hours a day of hololive getting decent at japanese before learning to read
they probably don't post here though

>>41883350
whitenoising never works
ever

>>41883360
that's not what whitenoising is, that's like saying babies watching cartoons are whitenoising
whitenoising is listening to raw audio with no contextual information and you aren't good enough at the language to comprehend it

>>41883360
It would work if everything is white noise. We are not children to have 2 natives nourishing us for a decade or two though.

>>41883337
It's my first non-european language. The difference is massive.

>>41883386
babies try to talk and get subtle feedback
babies are sensitive and easily notice cues adults dont without conscious effort
babies immerse all day in one language
babies are more neuroplastic than they will ever be in their lives
etc

babies dont whitenoise but what you are describing is whitenoising

https://youtu.be/4vPkZ_NOla4

baby japanese bros we just keep winning

>>41883400
It sure is but I'm having hard time imagining you didn't have strong surprises with the other languages. Isn't jumping straight to manual translation of videos a really silly idea in any case? On the other hand you could've encountered a really free style translation. In any case rushing your horses is a way to ruin your aspirations.

yoooooooo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebv1wCiXBfI

>>41883554
吾輩

今日の曲
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EmstVQeEiA [Open]

>>41879880
this is why im learning japanese
>>41880038
sometimes, i prefer story channels but some of those are nice. what determines if something is god immersion material is if you enjoy it and want to understand it
>>41880657 >>41880806
good posts thanks
>>41881840
chad, picked up
>>41883184
love monster hunter, also pokemon
>>41883275
true true
>>41883386
also true
>>41883477
uwaa picked up
>>41883554
uoooooooo!
>>41883697
nice kyok love ado

goood morning bros! japanese study time! god i love pokemon

>>41883233
>character says hi
>subtitles says yes
>how am i suppose to learn like this?

>character says fast
>subtitles says first
>how am i suppose to learn like this?

seldom do subtitles
seldom will

that ID vtuber claimed to learn English and Japanese simultaneously by watching anime with English subtitles
sounds like bullshit

how do I stop my brain from whitenoising sentences longer than 2 lines without subtitles

>>41884046
as for me, i find japanese in my head and think in that direction
for me its up and to the right

>>41884046
literally just listen, sounds like an XP issue
every time a sentence goes on longer than a couple clauses and you lose it but you're trying to hold on
that's the feeling of leveling up

>>41883554
the skits were really cute, great singing too
really excited for koyos

>>41884159
she knows exactly what shes doing

>>41881623
uh-huh
uh-uh
umm

opokemmersion desuwa!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDr26SfYN-A

>>41884542
>120k views for a pokemon stream
cant stop desuwinning

immersion
https://youtu.be/v6Ht-IDDpxw

>>41884046
I do that in English when the material doesn't interest me. I've read books that were so bad and boring that I began to gloss over entire pages because I just couldn't commit to them. If you're doing this for work you'd take an approach that helps you force yourself over the hurdle, but for pleasure if it's inconvenient then we tend to avoid the labor. If you seriously wanna tackle those segments then do what I did, grab a piece of paper (or throw the file into an image editor and cover it with black) and then reveal a little at a time, scanning through the lines one by one without the rest of it cluttering your field of vision. When you don't know a lot of the kanji, when it's already hard to follow, the excess visual stimulation can be murder.

>>41884612
cute

Should I play Atelier Ryza or the new Ni no Kuni?

play nekopara

She has completely lost her mind

>>41884766
yes (both are great)

>>41884808
Yeah but both are on sale and I only want one for now.

>>41884819
If you want to be distracted, Atelier Thighza is pretty good at diverting your attention. If you just wanna play a solid game and enjoy the ride, Ni no Kuni would be my pick.

>>41884819
kinokuni is better if you aren't big into atelier, its a level 5 game and feels more polished overall
both are a good ride and ryza has 2 sequels

>>41884831
>>41884850
OK, I'll get NNK for now and if I can pick up a used physical version of Ryza later. Thanks

>>41884766
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iE2AE5CvnQM

>>41884794
her thot behaviour is ramping up, she'll have an onlyfans by the end of next year

>>41884922
>japanese girl gets exposed to western culture
>immediately becomes a whore
nothing could have seen that coming

Any recs for LNs/shousetu with young boy protagonists? Like Pokemon/Gundam/Dragon Ball/HxH style protagonists
Don't ask, I just like them

>>41883554

はい、告白します
ペロペロしたかったんだ

anyone have recs for easy lns?

>>41885314
Kino no Tabi

how do i pass the paywall on nikkei

>>41885314
re:zero should be fine
https://jpdb.io/novel/1611/re-zero-starting-life-in-another-world

>>41885314
not sure about LNs, but if you want WNs I can give you a couple.
>蜘蛛ですが、なにか？
this one is easy. though has one of the worst prose i've seen in japanese. it reads like it was written by a dumb 13 year chuuni. but that's what makes it easy.
it's also why I dropped it pretty early.

>転生したら剣でした and 陰の実力者になりたくて
both were pretty simple. kenten was my first WN. i wouldn't say it was easy back then, but it's manageable. kageno is about the same level.

>>41885314
i got you bro

少女に中出ししたい

>>41885354
>カノジョの妹とキスをした
picked up let's gooooooo

>>41885354
wait the konosuba cover actually has a good artstyle

>>41885354
>Isekai as a vending machine

This is so stupid.

>>41885503
low iq take

>>41885367
cute メスガキ

>>41885354
love me a linnie

>>41885367
yoooooooooo

>>41885354
these romcom lns like お隣の天使様 just make me feel sad about not having a cute anime gf

wtf newspapers are still hard to read... how much more vocab do i need

>>41885503
ever wonder what would happen if you sudokud to save a vending machine bro?
its actually kinda fun, vending machine kun is a chad

>>41885864
WAGMI BROS

im thinking of paying the 220 bucks per year for yoiTV now that you can't use it for free anymore. i found an android app for a different service that's still free but i can't install it on my TV so my only option is to cast it from my phone which sucks. it feels bad having to pay that much money though bros..

>>41885737
https://www.kanshudo.com/collections/vocab_usefulness2021
Here you go. Go down that list until you hit a word you don't know and don't even recognize. If you hit 250-500 you're still a beginner, 2-3000 you can handle basic conversations, and around 8-10k you can consider yourself fluent or native level. To read a newspaper without issue in English can require a certain degree of fluency depending on the articles, but a Japanese newspaper is even more resistant to fluff than English so it tends to cut right to the point. Have you tried reading recipe books, basic textbooks, research papers or any other kind of non-fiction besides the news? Blogs, for example, or dev updates for video games? Those tend to be written in more human language, and are more approachable. It should help ease the transition.

>>41885928
thats not even 3 akasupas bro

>>41885978
havent paid for any media in like 20 years so i dont wanna start now

>>41885985
then just continue to stream what you like, i cant even remember the last time i watched tv (and i had yoitv for a while too)

>>41886010
stream from where? also i like mindlessly watching random shit on tv. i might get my parents to buy it for me as a birthday present lol

>you'll never go ice skating with your japanese gf
https://twitter.com/world_buzz_news/status/1596467081679351810

>>41877104
this is gonna sound lame, but I started by just memorizing katakana at a young age, and more recently I started figuring out how to read hiragana , and having some sense of sentence structure.

Right now my biggest struggle is that I want to be able to play like untranslated games, and manga, and the prospect of understanding another language unlike most male otakus is appealing to me, but I seem to have little direction on what to practice and slacking for even a few days causes something to slip out, which I guess means I haven't been trying hard enough.

Should I be a masochist and set all my vidya to japanese and beat my head with Japanese websites and videos and stuff? I know it isn't supposed to be easy, but I kinda don't have a direction here

I do have a close friend who is helping me when they have time, but they told me I still read like I'm using google translate and that I have no "vibe" like I'm speaking the way a japanese man would. Sorry for the blog. any advice?

>>41886038
how dumb do you have to be to not hold onto the wall on your first time out

>>41886042
read the guide you stupid zoomer fuck

>>41886042
yeah watch anime with japanese subtitles for a couple hundred hours

why is america of all places "rice country"

>>41877292
4 character compounds are not worth mining

Alright I've used duolingo for a year now, how do I start farming kanji?

>>41886197
t. dekinai
they are extremely common
no, you wont be able to understand them without looking them up

>>41878708
I guarantee they "localized" the shit out of it and changed everything.

>>41886206
>I've used duolingo for a year now
good, now you are ready to start from the beginning. pick up genki 1 and get to work

>>41879093
No. The golden rule is just to listen more.

>>41886021
kek based
>>41886038
literally me
>>41886042
you have to make things hard but not so much you hate doing them, find a balance, if you go play a heavy rpg to start with youll just get sick of it and quit
here, lots of manga in this site
https://mangareader.to/read/chainsaw-man-colored-edition-56074/ja/chapter-1
its not so much hard as time consuming. you will be doing this for a long time
also try hukumusume for easy children stories and holodex for kinno immersion content
>>41886228
but im playing it in nip, so i don't care about that, even a little

kino song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjDlZRWli5M

>>41877292
yeah, it's not inherently clear from just each word by itself so the repetition would help reinforce it

>>41879984
deepl translates casually. It even ads swearing and slang and all sorts of stupid shit.

>>41880084
That's grammar. Don't mine grammar.

https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/grammar/dojg/dojgpages/basic%E3%81%82%E3%81%BE%E3%82%8A.html

https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/grammar/dojg/dojgpages/intermediate%E3%81%82%E3%81%BE%E3%82%8A.html

>>41883138
Elder scrolls was tolkien derivative garbage with atrocious gameplay since day 1.

>>41880084
just look it up in a sentence bank, you'll derive meaning of it very quickly. very common word.

>watch anime
>guy says oppai
>subtitles say [bleeped]
wtf?

>>41885503
LN's are a joke of a medium.

>>41884922
God I hope

>>41885737
At least 24000.

>>41886317
Yeah but then magic mushroom man saved one game by tripping the fuck out and creating the most amazing game ever

>>41885946
>around 8-10k you can consider yourself fluent or native level.
That makes no sense. What does "native level" mean? A native 5 year old is fluent, but their vocab level is tiny. A native college educated adult is fluent but they know about 50 thousand words.
Fluency has nothing to do with how many words you know.

>>41886365
i'm a quarter of the way there then...

>>41886384
well imagine you want to bake a delicious cake.
you need eggs, sugar, milk.
now without those things, you can't bake anything.
but even if you have those things, it still doesnt mean you can bake a cake if you dont have the skills.
thats how fluency is too. you need vocab, but vocab doesnt make you fluent

>>41886422
>>41886384
fluent sure but native level no way

>>41886384
Fluency has everything to do with how many words you know, can understand, and can use competently and constructively. A native five year old isn't fluent, that's why they go to school and learn their colors, the names of animals, the names of places and concepts and how to string them together. The moment you tie language proficiency to anything that isn't "proficiency in the language" you've lost the thread of your argument entirely. What native five year olds have is exposure to the language in a way that its rules are ingrained firmly and intuitively and its internal logic laid bare to them, so all they really need to do is accumulate words and...exist in their culture soaking up examples.

10k is an undershot, by the by. Some figures go as high as 25k-50k but then we get into debates about whether morphemes are words or word families and whether Japanese conjugates or inflects (like is 食べる a different "word" than 食べません and does anyone besides linguists actually care).

just figure out the exact number of english words you know and then learn that many japanese words

>>41886440
Depends on what you mean by "native level". Do we count backwoods Southerners with limited vocabulary as being "native English speakers"? If so, then the Japanese equivalent in the countryside without specialized knowledge on engineering or jewelry-making or in-depth anime knowledge is also a "native speaker" even if they're not a college graduate and not particularly eloquent, and someone who develops their skills to that level is also "native level". If by "native level" you mean a college grad who wield their pen like a sword of truth and can write works of literature across multiple subjects, and I don't know why you would, then yeah, 10k is the low bar.

sometimes i feel like this place has no idea about the linguistic capabilities of native 5 year olds/have been influenced by the overrepresentation of 15 year old phds in japanese media a bit

>>41886449
>A native five year old isn't fluent
you don't hang around five year olds much, do you? they are absolutely fluent
>that's why they go to school and learn their colors, the names of animals, the names of places
?????
>whether Japanese conjugates or inflects
Japanese does both, obviously
>like is 食べる a different "word" than 食べません
depending on how you define "word" they're obviously different, but when you get told to learn 10k words, they don't mean you should learn all conjugations of 食べる

https://youtu.be/SD8skdaLl5E

>its another episode of "number of words"

>you don't hang around five year olds much, do you?
i'd hope not, considering the things people ITT jerk off to

the ability to speak or write a foreign language easily and accurately.
1. 達弁
2. ぺらぺら
children are fluent by default in that they can comunicate fluidly in their own language, if not articulately or eloquently, then again, some can

the ability to express oneself easily and articulately.

>>41886507
uwaaaa
>>41886513
also uwaaaa
thanks for saving the thread lewdxchads

>>41886513
her massive iliac crest to her relative low body fat makes her hip area look really angular and not feminine.

ドイツに勝ったから日本内の日本嫌いな非国民から

日本たたきはじまった

健全じゃないと思う

きらい

>ドイツに勝った日本が悪い

>>41886561
id still apply for my dick to get a permanent residence inside of her

>>41886569
you're still assblasted about this? lol

>>41886570
same

>>41886578
たぶんサッカー賭博で

ドイツにけっこう大きく賭けてたんだとおもうよ

賭博で負けてあたりちらしてるんだとおもう

2023 Kamige
http://bishop.jp/products/ingk/index.html

>>41886609
uwaaaa

what happened to moebuta

>>41886609
epic censoring

3204852r0 u8930jfel
ARGHHHHHHHHH I HAD TO LOOK UP A WORD THAT WAS ACTUALLY A MATURE CARD
WHAT THE FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
IM NEVER GONNA MAKE IT

All right you faggots, story time.
I just woke up and I'm with a hangover, so fuck you.

>Be dating a japanese girl 6.9/10
>I know japanese but I never told her I did
>been learning since I was 15, now I'm 20, we've been hanging out for 8 months
>I go out with her to japanese bars, most of the time with her friends
>her friends talks to her in japanese, and I keep understanding what they say, in secret
>they very often would say how ugly I was and that she deserved better (an actual 11)
>tfw she used to agree but said she would go out with me because I have money
>8 months after that I get ready for JLPT N1
>go out with her one last time with her friends to a really expensive restaurant
>she starts drinking, and I wait for her to get a little tipsy
>I ask her for some private time and tell her what I practiced for a few days
>実は俺は日本語が分かるんです
>she gets confused and look at me with a weird face
>Heart racing
>ここでお別れとしよう。別にお前のことが好きでしたわけじゃない、ただ利用されていただけだ。しかし一人で全くやくにたたずな女だった。
>I'm still trying to remember her expression
>あっそ、あの連中に伝置いてくれ。あいつらは可愛じゃない、むしろ、見苦しいより相応しい言葉しか思い付きません。
>I remember she trying to slap me and falls
>I leave and start to drink by myself and get ready for my trip to Japan

I heard that she thought I was going to propose that night, and that she actually liked me/used to say those things so her friends would get off her.

When I fish another nipponjin I'll be more open to her about this.

>>41886579
>shes not holding your head and saying anonだけがいい、一生一緒に居て、もう離れちゃやだ
did you even have sex?

>>41886750
>>tfw she used to agree but said she would go out with me because I have money
instant drop

>>41886750
so sex her

yoooo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azhSIbb87Zw

>>41886750
good larp but why are you making so many errors after studying for 5 years and supposedly getting n1? i guess that was part of the larp too though

>>41886798
seems like typical n1 weeb output

>>41886750

skill issue

>>41886750
>>実は俺は日本語が分かるんです
>>ここでお別れとしよう。別にお前のことが好きでしたわけじゃない、ただ利用されていただけだ。しかし一人で全くやくにたたずな女だった。
>>あっそ、あの連中に伝置いてくれ。あいつらは可愛じゃない、むしろ、見苦しいより相応しい言葉しか思い付きません。
>I know japanese but I never told her I did
>been learning since I was 15, now I'm 20
>5y

MY FUCKING EYES!!!!!!!!!
Dude, you really need to learn japanese
this >>41886798

was with a japanese girl once and she got a call from japan and put it on speaker
she said a white boy (me) called her cute and the girl on the phone was jealous

>実は俺は日本語が分かるんです
god i hate reading jsl japanese so fucking much bros fuck..

todays kyoku
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKYMpCHWOlw

>>41886750
literally no one gives a fuck you pathetic normalfag blogging piece of shit

ラムネ

>>41886860
literally no one gives a fuck you pathetic normalfag blogging piece of shit

gooood morning from japan

saw some pantsu in harajuku, god bless wind

>>41886750
>>実は俺は日本語が分かるんです
anon, where did you learn japanese?
reddit? nukemarine discord? refold?

>>41886894
would love to launch them all over the side of the building

>>41886898
cry about it

>>41886898
don't get mad loser, bully him like everyone else

>>41886921
maybe i will

>>41886927
you should be happy tho
you are white right

>>41886958
yes but i don't get what you mean