/jp/ - Otaku Culture

amazing op

>>41832392
yoooooo great op!

>>41832392
Thanks for the reminder OP.

todays banger
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLNTAMY1NZA

literally me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjchQkPVU54

>>41832416
nice kyok
>>41832425
kek why don't they do stuff like this anymore? miss tsunomaki janken

Why are you learning Japanese?

>>41832459

>>41832392
Alas poor puppers

ゆめかわいいCute fairy raspberry Meridian art studying fruity ecology games
https://youtube.com/watch?v=ae1UBZfveTI [Remove]



I。Purest ynicracy ＾(cute magic dreams and friendships and artstudying ...＾)
Ⅱ。Most peaceful&dreamy country・・・＾/castle^
Ⅲ。Intersubjective&cutemagical fairi freedoms
＾

#かわいい魔法 #中二妖精 #ユニ妖精＾ #ユニ #Diversity #Equality #Yni #cutemagic #fairi #freedom #cutemagic #virtuous^purity #multifruity #fruityEcology #Diversity #Equality #ユニ
^

I tried to apply for game dev job but they rejected me because of the "personality test" made by antifairi that said that I have mental illness and not yayness. The other company was yay but they can`t give me work visa because working hours a 2hour/day so only kids and dream magic archmages can apply but I have no Jp citizenship sadly... I guess my life is over :c qwq yms

"The nobler and more perfect the creature, the later and slower it matures.
A true fairi is forever kinder and never reaches "maturity" of mind and spiritual strength even by the age of 2001, while an antifairi is already mature at 18 or even earlier.
But this is also the reason for underdevelopment: antifairi as a reversed fairi remains children in a bad way all their lives.
They always see only what is in front of their noses, don`t care about dream magic and astral plane dimensions stick only to the present,
wishful thinking and prefer to delve into the little things instead of doing important things
like fruityEcology development education and yaying.
Reason says that it is not good for a person to live like an animal only in the present.
The true fairi kid must review the past and think about the future, from which his caution, care and concern follow."

everyfairi undercover included please help what to do :c
I going to "yms" seriously if I can`t stay in Japan or apply for asylum in California with lgbtqia program... I can`t go to Russia because I will be in jail or tortured by antifairi occupant`s military&psychiatric beasts666 by "law"
>Oh right Putin kills gays(Children of Gaia)

Well it is just the small part of problem: you can be lgbt community there yayly if you are not interacting with "society"(vulgar multitude). Even though I am androgynous^asexual Christian-puritan the main problem is the disgustting law for every male passport holder that you need to "sign up" for military service and get through medical&psychiatric commisiion traps for fairi included and wait to be drafted which I will never do but there is a punishment for fairi up to 2years in prison. A lot of people just give up and sign up but my "religion" does not allow this and I will never do that. ... so I even left Russia before I became 16yo so I never signed up that shit I HATE THE ANTIFAIRI^

#かわいい魔法 #夢の魔法
*。*̣◌⑅◍。*◌⑅◍。^

>>41832459
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhhwAGwTdGA

>>41832392
stop posting hologarbage in the op
>>>/vt/

>>41832392
Love doggo, approve.

>>41832459
vbijin!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCtW3VCr69E

>>41832459
I want a Japanese girlfriend.

>>41832624
w..what happens if she flexes her manko...?

>>41832624
ナメック星しゅっしん？

i hate diminishing returns of learning vocabulary. suppose 2k let's you understand 80% of written text, 4k will bring that up to, say, 90%. not bad, not great. but at 6k you might optimistically get to 95%. so you ask yourself why keep going for such miniscule gains?
but that's a fallacy, for each step decreased your vocabulary ignorance by half.

>>41832735
true true

13/20 posts filtered lmao

>>41832392

>>41832750
yep based

was watching lucky star earlier and konata replied "あまり” to ”いかがでしょうか？” and ive been thinking about it all day. is just saying あまり by itself a shorthand for some phrase or what. given the context is was obviously a "meh" reaction

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9cflnJYZ9c
banger

>>41832775
love fake type
actually unironically good song

so most of your "good song" posts are ironic? noted

開く
開く
... two nukes weren't enough. This is rubbish. You can only know there is difference if the cards go one after another and they both mean the same thing.

>>41832769
https://kotobank.jp/word/%E4%BD%99%E3%82%8A-427212
Entry 三2. Almost almost rendered as あんまり.

>>41832796
its one of those "youll never confuse them in context" things

>>41832802
interesting thanks

>>41832813
What context? Both mean open? But when you are learning wiith anki, you learn one pronunciation and then after a while the deck covertly gives you new one, and you now don't know why you were wrong. At least the meaning of the root stays same. 上 for some reason also means nervous.

>>41832934
you don't learn anything in anki, anki is just to remember things
i picked up 開くfrom fourze
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_lszYgUtao
its fun if you like kamen rider
ideally youll eventually see the kanji and all the things it could be will collapse into one

>>41832972
I can't watch things in Japanese. I don't know how you do this, that you can watch Japanese stuff from the start with no issues and understand what is being said from just hearing. I can't do that.

>>41832934
orange
orange
wtf i hate english

>>41832995
no, no, no not from the start, you aren't particularly stupid, this sucks for everyone at the beginning, just watch or listen to simple stuff, its what everyone says, you will NOT understand everything, but you don't have to, you will slowly pick up words here and there and be able to look them up, and over time, you end up understanding more and more and more
you have to do it every day, and eventually it clicks.
japanese is like a puzzle with 50 thousand pieces that all can fit in different spots and of which you have no picture beyond a fuzzy idea of what it should look like.
as you grab more and more pieces, it gets easier to see which ones you are missing and to go on
https://mangareader.to/read/chainsaw-man-96/ja/chapter-1
try reading that, or dragon ball, or listening to anything or playing anything really and looking up things as you go
for what its worth itll never suck more than it does now and when you get your footing its really very fun
good luck bro

[-] lmao

>>41833024
Hiraku
Aku
one means open if its raining in ghana and the other means open if a 11 year old malamute is watching you, wtf i love japanese

>>41833090

>>41832392
Previous thread: >>41822345

>使う
>用いる
>使用する
>利用する

They all mean the same though...

manko hiraku

>>41832392
Ultra shitty OP.

>>41833514
okay and
>use
>utilize
>to make use of
all mean the same thing as well, don't they?
it's a language nigga

how do i get a jp gf bros

how do I learn 2chan memes without browsing the site?

>>41833702
But you know which is which. In Japanese they mean all three at once with no possible way of knowing which is which, because they use the same character. This is not how normal common language works.

https://youtu.be/oFo7erlyNls
theres just something so cute about japanese girls

>>41832796
more reasons why premade decks are shit and why sentence cards are superior

How much time did you spent learning kana?

i learned kana back in the day with namasensei
good times

>>41833983
was gonna post this

still make mistakes reading large blocks of kana

>>41832459
Cute and pure jks

>>41833514
good thing they're all trivially easy to learn
fast rapid quick speedy brisk hasty blistering

usj was kinda dumb, too many people and too much waiting, and the fast passes are expensive as shit
the rides were better than disney though

you cant even enter super mario land without winning the lottery on their app because they built the placd too small for all the people going there

but on the plus side, the bijin in front of my seat at the shinkansen brought figures to ride along with her
cute!

>>41834212
>blistering
lol

>>41834425
you should be reported and deported for being a creep secretly taking pics of strangers without their permission or knowledge

>>41834491
i dont take pictures of people without their consent

>>41834554
you just took a pic of their personal belongings and you clearly didn't take permission lol

>>41834592
not a person though

i just took a pic of the beautiful station through the window :)

Being a creep is customary in Japan.

おはお！
>>41834425
cute!
>>41834592
objects don't have rights

>>41834425
us just immersing like bros

>>41834425
yooooo
https://twitter.com/SonicOfficialJP/status/1594490373208166401

>>41835020
holochads cant stop winning
https://twitter.com/yuzokoshiro/status/1594633071961440256

>>41835020
>>41835069
yooooo

>>41835185
くるし！

Daily JKpaim3rs1on
https://files.catbox.moe/fsnf9b.mp4

what current season anime do the djt council of chuggers recommend

ByByCmersion

>>41835988
Let me throw a bullet in the dark
Kanemorisan?

>>41835988
sauce plz

>>41834760
>objects don't have rights
are you talking about toys or women?

Minerva Scientia post of the thread.

A taste of sound change and argument that Japanese "accents" aren't.
https://youtu.be/ll3QAsiIx3Q

A yuri story written with only the A-column.
https://youtu.be/1bnb0n4brwM

Which sounds more natural:

女様達

OR

女達様

Basically, if 様（さま）and 達（たち）are used together, which goes first?

>>41836238
the toys
women aren't objects as they have the right to be bred by me

>>41836298
様達

>>41833757
...what?

今日の曲
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDUMtV4OZ0I

After cramming for this JLPT, I realize Matt did nothing wrong when he holed up in his (bath)room and studied. Everything else is a distraction.

>>41832459

>>41836404
matto didn't study he watched pokemon

>>41833805
for me its the sincerity they do all this stuff with
>>41832775
nice
>>41834181
t..they look pure indeed...
>>41834425
the rides at universal are so good theres no comparison, but theres always so much people and the express past cost is ridiculous
>>41835020
>>41835069
yooooo!
>>41835363
yabeeeeeee
>>41835988
wholesome
>>41836390
good kyoku

gooooood morning bros!

>>41836483
mogu mogu

>>41832735
i can't relate i love acquiring new vocab

DJT, I want to buy an e-reader, with the main use being ofc reading japanese web and light novels.
Very conflicted on Kobo libra 2 vs Kindle paperwhite.
Which one is better for japanese in particular?
I know Kindle has a way to export all the words you looked up in the dictionary, and quickly make anki cards from it, does Kobo have similar feature?
Which one is faster at the actual look up part? I don't want a laggy device.
Is Kindle Unlimited good enough in terms of JP light novels specifically to warrant siding towards the kindle in this comparison?
129 euro for kindle paperwhite 8gb, 159 euro for kobo libra 2 32gb btw.

yooooo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSMsZKM8oMQ

>>41836518
whichever you like the screen of better

>>41836518
i just got an ipad, and then an android tablet, get a floor stand and it becomes a comfy portable submonitor

>>41836521
asakonkon

Cute party trick. Say all the onyomi words you know and people will think you know Chinese.

>>41836562
I already have a phone/tablet that I use to read right now, and that I'll keep using for manga, but I want to move to an e-reader because I much prefer that experience when it comes to reading books.
>>41836531
When I went to look at them in a shop the screens looked identical.
That's why I'm asking about features/lookup speed specifically in japanese.

>>41836298
>様達
this one but 女様 would be like saying "esteemed bitches" or something

>>41836518
i've never used the libra 2 but the newest kindle paperwhite has pretty much instant lookups

does someone know this word? there's a type of 死刑 where you roll the person into a tatami matt or something and then throw him into a river.

Funny how some things you only get by feeling. At least I find it quite hard to explain what "という" is supposed to mean in English.

>>41836734
簀巻き

>>41836769
haya! ty <3

seems like they use 巻き for healing in apex

There's a difference between cards and notes you dumdums.

unexpected translation

Are you team ねんねん
or
としどし？

>>41836848
lol

>>41836518
ipad pro
I'm not even joking

>>41836587
you are retarded

Why do 意地 and 意地悪 mean what they mean?

>>41837030
「意地 語源」とググりたまえ

>cute dolly lesson 9
分からない。

>>41837076
何が？

>>41837076
in regards to me, cure dolly is want-inducing

When you regarded Japanese as an animist language, it helped me visualise everything as having its own soul/will (which isn't far removed from a core aspect of Shintoism). So I shifted my view from 'me wanting to eat something' (A does B) to 'that thing IS able to make me want to eat it' (A is B).

>>41837080
私がエゴセンタのだ。

(I really am guessing here.)

かにしたい

日本人になりたいのにな

>>41837119
Please correct me if I am wrong, bros.

>>41837056
kangaechuu or kangaenaka
we will never know...

>>41837228
kangaeuchi

>>41836649
It's surprising to me how seemingly unpopular kobo stuff is.
In videos reviewers always say how good the kobo are for the price compared to evil amazon, but then when asking for people that have e readers everyone just has a kindle.
Whatever, I think in the end I'll buy a kindle as well, I prefer the libra 2 in terms of format/shape for one handed reading in bed but the kindle seems to be more feature rich.
Hopefully 8gb are enough, I'm not splurging on a higher tier model.
My current epub library isn't that big yet.

>>41836518
never tried kobo but couldnt do this japanese thingy without my kindle. the dictionarys work too good.

dont listen to the ipad faction because the rattata life is only possible with e-ink.

if I want to read manga digitally in bed is there anything better than just a normal tablet?
and is there a good compromise between a good platform for pure text and one for comics? like a tablet thats fine to read novels on

>>41837379
nah i'm an eink fag but tablet is still king for manga and ln scans

2 in 1s are great for overall consooming

>>41832735
>so you ask yourself why keep going for such miniscule gains?
because those 5% are actually important

jotd: チン毛付きフェラ

looking at vocabulary like that is just a stupid, outside-looking-in way of looking at it to begin with. in practice you're learning how to converse about and understand new topics with each word being valuable

>>41832392
helo this is learning listening steven crashman. i listen while a vaccum a reading on my ipod. in link.
compelling.

Anybody got advice on learning the proper usage of particles or have useful graphs?
I'm always mixing them up when I'm doing tasks that only focus on putting in the correct particle.
Especially the particles が、を、に、で　and in some cases even は cause me trouble.

>>41837582
yeah read more

>>41837480
actual jotd: 白板

>>41837582
buy a fly ticket to tokyo and live like a hobo in the streets

>>41837595
never seen that in kanji form so no

>>41837599
>not learning the kanji form of every word, no matter how rare

>>41837582
>doing tasks that only focus on putting in the correct particle
Trying to produce before you know how to read is a complete waste of time.

>>41837582
got a chart for u right here

>>41837582
I am having my mind blown by cure dolly so i guess watch that.

J-Dramas google drive
drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B4SicD-zZ_Z1SWtNWjlfMmJtRFE?resourcekey=0-Mb-d6oqmNscdL_zO16m4Uw
pssw ; bagikuy

>see ghost in the shell is only 6/10 on jpdb
>start watching it
>understand nothing

sometimes when reading vinnies the mc has long internal monologue about whatever the fuck and I just can't follow them
I understand the words, I understand the grammar , the sentences make sense on their own but I still have no clue about what he's trying to convey
I jusy can't understand what's going on inside the head of japanese men

>>41837799
maybe stream of consciousness rather than trying to make a point

>>41837612
what's your favorite rare kanji form
for me it's 曹達

>>41837821
maybe 凝乎と because of dumb it is
i think it might be unique in that it has a kanji just for っ sort of

where were you when you realized 屹度 was an onnomotopea (i don't know that word)

>haven't missed a single day of anki since starting last year
>Suddenly get sick today
>Don't even have enough energy to get out of bed
My streak...

>>41837909
>haven't missed a single day of anki since starting last year

Impressive. How long do you study per day?

>>41837799
That effect is perhaps most pronounced with song lyrics

just because you understand it doesn't mean you understand it. can even happen in your native language

yeah I used to think that the reason it was so hard to understand was that the translations were bad and that's true sometimes but bug people philosophy is just incomprehensible sometimes

>>41837909
do one rep, that way it wont show as an empty day

>>41838006
thats a chink tactic us ankibros have honor and will take the l when we get too sick
>>41837909
I missed a week for the same reason get well soon soldier

What does わりとざっくり actually mean? I saw is translated as "doesn't think about what he says" but by context it seems more like "has a rather rough manner" or "is rather frank".

グリズリさんわりとざっくりしてるから。

These Anki decks are kicking my ass. I have Core2.3k v3 and an N5 deck, and I just feel like I keep struggling. おぼえる and 起きる just won't sink in :(

just 覚える them lol

>>41838115
it will stay like that for years and years
the words you are struggling with will change but the feeling is the same

>>41838134
At present there doesn't feel like any reward for what I'm doing because I still don't feel like I can read anything and understand it. At least if I was further along I could understand SOMETHING. I recognise occasional words and kanji but that's about it. Oh well, nothing for it other than to keep on going. Discipline will see me through.

>>41837821
>>41837843
knew both yawn

i don't understand how to use 5chan. why doesn't it loook like 4chan

>>41838154
I get 404s when I try. I wonder if they type "proper" Japanese. You'd be shocked at how well written 4chan posts actually are on average, so if the same held true on 5chan it'd be an endless stream of reading material.

all japanese is valid

>>41838170
>You'd be shocked at how well written 4chan posts actually are on average
lol

>>41838181
A lot of posts use decent grammar and punctuation, and I say this as a decently educated English poster. I see entire threads go by with proper punctuation. What does "bad" Japanese look like?

Subject Object Verb.

Subjects in Japanese and English are in the same position, but the object and the verb are flipped.

You've got particles to mark different parts of speech. This is especially helpful as Japanese writing uses no spaces (most of the time).

は (wa) marks the topic of a sentence

が (ga) marks the subject

を (wo) marks the object

There's far more than that but that will get you through the beginning stages.

For verbs there are 4 main conjugations.

-ます (masu) present positive

-ません (masen) present negative

-ました (mashita) past positive

-ませんでした (masendeshita) past negative

For the most part there is no "future" tense in Japanese. It's kind of just lumped together with present tense. The above are the formal verb conjugations. There's also a set of informal ones

-(dictionary form) present positive

-ない (nai) present negative

-た / -だ (ta/da) past positive

-なかった (nakatta) past negative

There are other verb conjugations, but these are the main ones that will help you get started. From what I've found, Japanese coursework does a good job of introducing new conjugations little by little.

Studying
If You Really Care About Becoming Native-Like, Don't Read (self.LearnJapanese)

EuphoricBlonde

[-1] が 1分前 投稿

It's a common fact that many people who learn a language through reading still struggle with listening comprehension—and, in effect, pronunciation as well—even though they can read hundreds of difficult novels with no issues.

It'll take you longer to learn with this method, but if you really want to come as close as you can to a native speaker, try to read as little as possible until you're at least "semi-fluent". Learning how to read when you're already fluent is incredibly easy. Doing the opposite, not so much.

>>41837909
your real streak is in your heart bro
>>41838144
read tadoku or hukumusume or hell, dragon ball and compare how you do vs how you did when you started
>>41838187
らんどむかな
>>41838196
good post

goo goo gaa gaa

>>41838205
Where can I find said Dragonball? A repository of JP manga would be sweet desu.

>>41838210
animebytes

>>41838211
I meant for free.

animebytes is only free if you don't value your time

>>41838210
https://mangareader.to/read/dragon-ball-color-edition-55929/ja/chapter-1
enjoy
tons of other manga there too

>>41838218
yep

>>41838201
the redditor is not totally wrong, going too hard on reading with not enough listening is a big mistake

>>41838115
read stuff you can read your browser and abuse the shit out of yomichan.
you might think you won't learn anything this way, but that's wrong. you'll unironically learn a lot more that way than grinding anki cards.
you'll encounter おぼえる and 起きる and other words thousands of times. i promise you that you won't be able to forget them even if you wanted to.

>>41838243
Based anon, arigatou.

>>41838201
correct

>>41838248
I installed yomichan and I think I installed the English dictionary along with it, but how do I use it? Should I be able to mouse over shit?

just don't read

>>41838274
does your mom still wipe your ass too?

>>41838046
Rough in the sense of "doesn't give a fuck."
https://kotobank.jp/word/%E3%81%96%E3%81%A3%E3%81%8F%E3%82%8A-511013
>３ 大ざっぱなさま。全体を大きくとらえるさま。おおまかに。「取りあえずざっくりとしたところだけでも決めておこう」「ざっくりとした話し合い」「要旨をざっくりととらえる」

>>41838281
You okay there little buddy?

>>41838281
nah ur mom takes care of that

>>41838286
try reading the manual tard

>>41838291
"Press shift and mouseover"

Would it really have been that hard?

>>41838201
>no, don't do that thing to the extreme and neglect everything else. instead do this to the extreme and neglect the other things.

listening is a bitch when you just start out. so is reading but when reading lookups are as quick and easy as hovering your mouse over the word.
words learned from reading will carry over to listening and it'll improve retention for both.
doing both is better than doing either.

just do everything bro

>>41832769
Yes they like their extremely shortened responses. Like amari, or betsuni, or sonna!

never moused over, never will

>>41836910
is air good?

doing handstands has improve my japanese
true story

>>41835760
>current anime
oh no no no no

>>41836518
Buy an old non-Amazon reader. The entire point of those things is insane battery life and the ability to read shit.

>>41838207
https://youtu.be/3YHM768tt0c

>>41838316
as for me, 逆立ちができない

>>41837749
jpdb is a joke

>>41838144
You need to start reading asap

>>41838343
generally better than rolling a dice

>>41838356
I'm going to start with Dragonball.

>>41837749
couldn't even understand the 2nd movie in english desu

>>41838316
same, handstands improve everything in life

>>41833750
Don't bother they're not funny

>>41838374
I'd なえ in her どこ

御マンコ

>>41837909
Do it anyways, think in the shame you will feel when you miss a day

>爬虫類
acquired. so these thats the word for politician in japanese

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9PpTdSi1Bs
bros im crying

あさつゆがすごい

もはやけぶりのやふ

>>41838446
Arnie used steroids.

>>41838446
>there are no shortcuts except anabolic steroids which Arnold used copious amounts of
jej

>>41838622
anki is the equivalent of steriods

>>41838625
absolutely not

t. on steroids right now

there's something about japanese, on a structural (grammatical?) level that makes me love it.
it satisfies my autism somehow

>蜥蜴
acquired

恥垢 acquisitionした

>>41838609
haven't watched that but i don't like the name of that video
>>41838657
same same

What does it mean when the end of a verb is cut off without being replaced by an ending? One example is 愛され or 配れ. Is it like a nominalizer so 配れ means allotment or something else?

>>41838727
it means you need to finish watching cure dolly

>>41838727
How do you people even reach this point

>>41838703
>haven't watched that
it's not that good, it's like the day after tomorrow or some other disaster movies where the natural disaster (in this case the earthquake) keeps following the MCs as if it's sentient. but the ending is a kick in the balls and i still cry like a bitch when i watch it

>>41838727
its the masu stem form. which is like て form but for text
or its the noun version of the verb. it depends

>>41838727
yes those are noun forms of verbs, not all of them are actually used. some of them are even more common than the verb though like hokori, Hikari or kanji

>>41838676
n10

why is it nameの馬鹿

>>41838822
because baka is a noun, it means stupidity

>>41838831
yeah youd expect nameがばかだ

>>41837909
If ur well enough to shitpost on DJT then ur well enough to do Anki and maintain ur streak
I once had a 380 day streak and when I finally failed to do my reps one day, it was like a pebble that started an avalanche of truancy that took 4 months to recover from

にほんのどいなかの

あさから

きせつのふうけいをおおくりします

>>41835760
Mob Psycho

>>41836309
positive "rights" aren't rights

they have the right to not be unbred by me

got bored within 3 minutes of the new season of mob psycho despite enjoying the rest of the show a lot. only conclusion is that my brain has further degenerated

>>41838802
She used to be so cute before she got bogged

>>41838896
not her this also isnt

>>41838896
She's always been a cute gremlin and always will be
But yeah the Misa fan club we had died

Oh I think he's making a joke that girl looks like fat ugly Misa

>>41838837
you sound like a dekinai faggot

>>41838869
mob psycho is hypocritical shounen trash

>>41838928
>shounen trash
so shounen lmao

wow shounen is just 少年

>>41838975
>shou
>nen
woah...

nah bro the nihongod said its 初年 lmfao

>>41838996
wut

>>41838745
fucking sentient earthquakes bro
if you have more sins to expiate watch barefoot gen
>>41838869
mob psycho s3 is excellent, might be better watched in one go though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWla3k_H6ds

>>41838909
everything we had died

biggest loss to this thread was the day when robert left

yooooooo immersion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyOnN-ldFYg

>>41839091
based love asakoyo

>>41839091
yosh

>invoices in October 2023
>pixiv
>next dmm and dlsite
Coomersbros its over...
https://youtu.be/Ky3HqvT3M8E

>>41838996
No one misses you

>>41839139
im making fun of him humiliating himself you braindead retard

My point still stands but now I'm talking about you irl

bros i am randomly watching one piece and boy the wano arc is good
pacing is great and the animation in the fights is really good
night and day with big cake island

It's really embarrassing when people are this self-centred that they cannot help themselves from making everything so personal. This isn't targetting you for learning through reading. Try not to take such offence from a completely innocent post next time, okay?

That aside, I'm not sure how this is not clicking for you. If a portion of your language learning comes from reading, you're bound to necessarily mispronounce words in your head as you're reading. And as you must know, people don't tend to ever break language-based habits after they're set in stone. That's one aspect. There's also the fact that when you hear the language in spoken form, your brain will inevitably not be as quick to comprehend it, since the way it acquired these sounds in the first place wasn't through spoken form.

Something like this is pretty impossible to document, which is probably why there's no available studies on it. Anecdotes are all we have, and based on everyone I've seen and talked to, I've never heard about someone who's learned a language through listening being less proficient than someone who learned through reading. Assuming they're both fluent, obviously. I'm including myself in this. I can't imagine being as capable of comprehending spoken English if I didn't learn through listening, just like a native speaker. For example, I can easily listen to speech in 3x and even 4x speed sometimes without issue. There's absolutely no way I'd be able to do that if a significant chunk of my initial learning came from reading.

You did make a really dumb comment about reading, though. I don't know about you, but learning how to read in school wasn't exactly hard. I imagine plenty of kids learned it before they even started school. Unless you have a learning disability, in what universe could learning how to read in a language you already know not be way easier? What are you even saying?

>>41839174
Stfu 4bro

2023 meta is read less

true, listening is where real gains happen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LaDuoHDC_g
vbijin chads keep winning

>>41839170
Wano is garbage tho
Whole Meme Island was kino compared to it

>>41839174
from what reddit you got this from

>>41839196
i really really enjoyed manga wano, and now anime it (havent watched the show in i guess a year, 50 eps behind)
i liked big memes island in the manga but the anime version was dbz charging lazor padded out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ky3HqvT3M8E
>A loophole in Japan’s law on child abuse material allows artists to freely draw sex with children. Despite a growing number of nations moving to ban this fictitious work, in Japan, the material is protected by a thriving manga industry and an artist’s freedom of speech.

they're coming for you cunibros. i dont read this shit so idc

>>41839212
find me japanese people seething about it and not fucking vice and then maybe i'll be worried

>>41839212
its okay miura will save kani as he always does

>>41839205
The only good parts were Roger flashback, Gear 5 goofiness, and the unmeasurable disappointment by Carrot and Yamato fans when neither showed up on the SH ship

>>41839221
read twitter

>>41839226
i said people

>>41839224
>heres 10 ways carrot can still be a strawhat

Can anyone make out anything on this magazine that could identify it

why are chinks so, so much better at slapstick than nips?

>>41839224
I LOVE THE SAMURAI!
(unironically)
wano is all kino full of references to nip fairy tales and the like
easily my favorite arc, also oden was kino (but i guess thats rogers fb)
the beast pirate freakshow was fun too

>>41839250
cause you've got to be retarded to slapstick, that's why mutts are the very best

>>41839247
the name is on the spine but too low res for me to see
something mate
oh its gonna be in the comments of the video

>>41839265
i guarantee both the us and china have a higher average iq than whatever shithole you're from

>>41839230
all of japan uses twitter

>>41839212
this shit is gross to me but it seems like a bad idea to ban certain types of art

Getting rid of pedos is good
Vice is doing God's work

>>41839279
not him but average us iq isnt high internationally lmao and china fakes their data

>>41838934
either gay or female

>>41839296
or you know not a basement dwelling dweeb

>>41837104
You watched Cure Dolly didn't you

>>41839295
you can look at chinese raised outside of china

>>>/pol/

>>41839318
>you can look at a biased sample of immigrants who got selected for intelligence
ok

>>41839191
Literally watching this already, it's raw unfiltered kino. Marine has amazing taste.

>年下の男の子

God damn.

lol third worlder cope

>>41839247
The spine says コミックMate. I can see 溺れえ on the front

>>41839226
Twitter isn't even close to being representative of anything.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_farm

Organised groups and even governments have spread shit on social media in an attempt to game feedback systems to push for change.

>>41839351
This. MGS2 should be a required part of the education system, somehow Kojima was able to flawless predict how the internet would be used as a weapon by those in power to continue to surpress the masses

anyone know the word or character count of an average LN page?

>>41839337
yeah its pure kino all the songs are great
love koone but i cant see her surpassing it
but would love it if she does

>>41839344
yeah youre coping lmao

>>41839368
>all the songs are great
Lets not go THAT far. The Haachama and Towa songs dragged. Towa especially.

>>41839247
https://book.dmm.co.jp/list/?label=120193
uoooooooo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVy7YPNP_zI
ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>41839379
DESIRE -情熱- is my favorite song in the set bro...
ask me how i know you dont have a burning heart

i know 腹筋 is read as ふっきん when talking about situps or abs, but is 腹筋痛い read as はらすじいたい?

>>41839347
>front
Was wondering why I couldn't find it on exhentai. That's the back of course.

>>41839212
Thanks you made me hate america a little more today

>>41839431
4chan servers are in america

>>41839410
>read as はらすじいたい?
my intuition says yes so the answer is probably no
although i did correctly guess the reading of 上辺 a few minutes ago

>>41839212
>comments turned off
every time

>>41839493
Pedos don't deserve the opportunity to defend their sick fetish even under the guise of defending muh sacred Japanese culture

>>41839493
They don't want this stuff to happen again

>>41839509
It's a victimless "crime".

>>41839431
pretty sure they're canadian

>>41839459
Owned by a jap living in france

>>41838750
But isn’t the い end the nominalizer? Are these two interchangeable?

>>41839515
the argument is it normalizes 3d pedophilia and would increase pedo crimes

>>41839523
its an american company with american servers following american law

>>41839534
By extension that means any media portraying murder increases murder rates?

>>41839561
why do you think games which glorify violence are regulated

>>41839573
They're regulated?

>>41839584
game ratings movie ratings etc
the logic is ubiquitous

>>41839573
do americans really

>>41839589
Sure, but if media portraying murder is simply given an 18 rating, I don't see why these sorts of manga couldn't be given the same treatment. For the record I have zero interest in this shit, the arguments against it just don't seem to hold water to me.

getting mildly btfod by ichi the killer but i think it's cause the sound mixing blows

>>41839534
if you have a functioning government they should be able to prevent pedo crimes

>>41839598
people like having sex so
>>41839534

>>41839589
esrb isn't even mandatory its self imposed

>>41839598
>>41839609
Government laws and overall Japanese culture being lax on it encourages pedos by allowing them a community and medium with which they can proliferate almost unhindered instead of ostracizing them to a point they feel too ashamed of their fetish to act on it
But instead they have a crisis of businessmen groping school girls on trains

>>41839620
yeah but the logic behind it is the same that people like to copy what they see in media and unconsciously normalize in society what they see

>>41839643
>allowing them a community and medium with which they can proliferate almost unhindered
Discord?

>>41839649
Discord does have an obligation with international law to squash those communities, but they're just very incompetent at fulfilling those obligations
Japan has no such legal obligations

>>41839646
um no the logic is that it would be inappropriate for children

>>41839667
I think western government's refusal to admit that an awkwardly large percentage of child sex offenders are homosexual takes away any high ground they may have against Japan. Hell these governments seem to applaud parents giving pre-pubescent boys untested drugs to make them grow tits. Fuck morality.

>>41839604
nevermind the yakuza slurring is too much for me i cant make out half of what theyre saying. no jp subs anywhere of course

>>41839643
they were groping school aged girls before manga and schools were even invented

>>41839686
Western government amorality doesn't make the Japanese government any less amoral. They're all amoral self-serving black boxes of bureaucracy

>larp as chinese
>Get easy (yous)
it is really that easy?

>>41839686
thats because they don't care about children getting hurt they hate straight men getting what they want

>>41839709
General rule seems to be that the further someone's skin is from being white, the more prone they are to crime.

>>41839723
>either or fallacy
stfu faggot

>>41839717
we r busy debating the ethics of erotic loli manga, leave us alone

>>41839685
because of what i said so um yeah

>>41839803
if you think they don't want to show children dismemberment and torture because they'll act it out you're delusional

>>41839819
the only objective reason is obviously that they don't want to distort their internalized social norms or increase their propensity for crime
you don't seriously believe the entire basis is just to "protect their innocence" do you lmfao

>>41839843
you clearly don't know any parents its literally just to protect them from being scared and no one thinks about internalized social norms except feminists on the internet

>>41839879
only boomer soccer moms think like that
the real reason is you don't want children growing up with a mindset where they've subconsciously internalized violence cause in a situation like this they'd be tempted to bash your brains in for being a stupid fucking retard lol

damn i think i fucked my back

>>41839940
shoulda done deadlifts to bullet proof it

>>41839926
>only boomer soccer moms think like that
so parents yes
>the real reason
as opposed to the fake reason? you theres some sort of conspiracy behind age ratings?
>you don't want children growing up with a mindset where they've subconsciously internalized violence cause in a situation like this they'd be tempted to bash your brains in for being a stupid fucking retard lol
it doesn't even work that way and if most people thought that they wouldn't need a "fake reason"

>>41839995
i said real reason cause you're convinced its just to keep children from getting frightened lol that might be a popular reason among boomers but from a logical perspective it's the weakest argument
of course that's why you pretend it's the only argument lmao

>>41840028
that is the reason they literally just think its inappropriate for children its that simple. according to your argument tom and jerry or billy and mandy shouldn't be ok for children because they bash eachothers brains out yet parents don't care and ratings boards don't care

>>41840096
lmfao they do do you live under a rock cartoons like tom and jerry have come under a lot of fire over the past few decades that's why warner bros had to make remake kid friendly versions and the old series doesn't get much air time if at all in the west

Anytime that two people argue here, I like to pretend they are the same two people every single time. I call them Bob and Steve. Bob is the insufferable asshat and Steve is the loveably earnest dumbshit.
It doesn't matter if they debate Japanese language, pedo shit, or some random totally off topic thing, Bob and Steve are always behind it and I love them

>>41840136
who is bob and who is steve here

>>41840116
do you just live on the internet or something? no one in the real world gives two shits about this

>>41840164
they had to remake it and can't air the old series quite a lot of people have to give a shit for something like that to happen. you just got btfo'd

>cartoons like tom and jerry have come under a lot of fire
anybody that uses the term "come under fire" is a perpetually online fat stupid american moron. ask 100 people on the street about this and 99 of them will have no idea what the fuck your dumb ass is talking about

>>41840186
yeah go ask 100 in places where they actual streets

>>41840160
Steve is the guy who think video games and TV shows cause violence of course

>>41840207
whatever the fuck that means

>>41840185
they remake everything thats how every show works they remade he man, thundercats, transformers even ben 10 and teen titans ffs
>quite a lot of people have to give a shit for something like that to happen
if they gave a shit about the violence and not it being old they still wouldn't show it to kids and it wouldn't have a kids rating

>>41840238
old tom and jerry is considered inappropriate just Google it

俺はおちんちんが大好きなんだよ

>>41840244
all I'm seeing is accusations of racism

tom and jerry promotes problematic racial stereotypes and has no place in our society in 2022

>>41840250
it's considered excessively violent

oh no the cartoon mouse who walks on 2 legs and smokes fat cigars bopped the naughty cat on the head so hard he turned into paper and fluttered under the door!
i hope my kid doesn't do this to another child one day...

Lmao good one Bob

jerry being a little asshole promotes unfair stereotypes towards mice and might encourage mice related hate crimes to rise

now that they can't deny people care about ratings to prevent violent behavior in children they start coping lol

>>>/pol/

to sum it up there are real reasons why there are age related guidelines for media and you lost hard

>>41839940
fuck mankos not backs
common mistake

>>41840317
wojack.jpg

hmm
post a source
maybe i'll listen to your babbling then

whyd no one tell me about how much dopamine output gives fugg

>>41840408
get your first nudes?

>learning for 2 years
>try reading something with a lot of techincal details
>don't understand anything
it's over

goooood morning from japan

my densya is stuck due to a jinsinjiko :/

>>41840500
its a shame it wasnt you

>>41840500
ohayouuuuu!
im so glad it wasn't you!

been reading a lot and not doing much anki and it feels like im remembering fewer words without it

>>41840528
Then you need to read even more

>>41840500
do the chad thing and offer nearby jks a protein shake to help them relax

>>41840509
人を呪わば穴二つ

>>41840536
i read for like 6-7 hours yesterday until i got a headache and i did remember words that kept getting repeated but i feel like focusing on just vocab for a bit without having to juggle full sentences in my memory is probably less of a pain

>>41840528
thats because anki is an AMPLIFIER
you learn less total words from it than natural input by far but it does some shit that adds a nice multiplier to your vocab growth overall. even it's just +10-15% you really notice the difference

>>41840553
i can fill both anas

>>41840528
eventually youll see anki as excessive for a lot of things and will even delete tons of cards
find the sweet spot of immersion and anki
btw its normal not to recognize things in context, anki is much much easier than reading/listening, memory has a lot of confounding factors, and your retention in anki is much higher than in the wild for all sorts of reasons, including you memorizing a picture, guessing from words you know, learned to predict the order of cards/which cards are by each other/etc
in other words don't worry too much about what anki says

Yoshhh!!!
Late immersion time!

>>41840559
true true

>>41840569
>writing this much garbage
this anon is not well

>>41840572
uoooooooo

>>41840572
still need to watch this
isnt there also a vinnie or something?

>>41840557
based gmi

why has no autist made some sort of autistic shitty tool for output practice

guys how do you efficiently acquire onomatopoeia? shit's retarded as fuck

>>41840680
It's calling talking to people, anon.

>>41840692
i dont want to talk to people until i'm good at talking hence why i will never talk to people

>>41840698
You start getting good at talking through immersion.
Now do your reps.

>>41840680
talk to a mirror/record yourself

>>41840686
it's fucking impossible to acquire with some exceptions like ドカン

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dguz0IsCuKU
i try to convince myself im gmi but life makes it hard to believe that

yeah once you become a wojak poster its over sorry bro

Today I reviewed my 300 cards in 80 minutes. I'm still not quite as fast as I used to be reviewing, but this was a huge improvement and my retention today was great

>>41840795
based gmi

>>41840776
unironically this
thank god i started learning nihongo when i was 16
moving to Japan next year prolly

>>41840808
I started at 18 (this year)

>>41840770
Good luck, Anon.

>>41840776
only newfags hate on wojak

it's hard to find good anime and manga after consuming a lot of it over the years so my input has gone down a lot in the past year. i watch youtube vids and shorts for an hour or two per day and thats about it. once every 2-3 months i stumble on an anime i like and blow through it in a day and then enter another dry spell. i'm probably ngmi at this rate

『中国第一』『世界第二』

botn: https://youtu.be/FQauxS0Zw5Q

>>41840842
on /jp/? you're kidding

>>41840858
>i'm probably ngmi at this rate
if you dont like anime, etc. anymore then what's the problem

>>41840878
old school wojak is a 4chan staple. basedjack/basedjack or whatever the fuck is a different thing

>>41840886
sunk cost fallacy and i want to live in japan for a year or so

>>41840858
thank god theres vbijin
>>41840893
based good luck

昨夜
ゆうべ or さくや?

I miss her.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=RnQWnzrKSJs

>>41840961
if they wrote 昨夜 instead of 夕べ might as well assume it's さくや

So far the hardest vocab to retain have been expressions that don't use any kanji and onomatopoeia.

>>41840981
yup

>>41840977
filling the void with https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zibEg38PXSA
shes quite good and makes a lot of content
>>41840981
hmmm i like onomatopeia

Is there a playlist or video series with all the grammar I need to know

>>41840980
i see, jisho had ゆうべ first but さくや was higher in vn frequency so i wasnt sure
thanks

>>41841040
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLg9uYxuZf8x_A-vcqqyOFZu06WlhnypWj

ＳＵＧＯＩ＿ＤＥＫＡＩが

ゴールインする路線にのった

ちゃんと出産ＥＮＤまでいくかもしれない

>>41841040
>>41841060
find nihongomori videos when you are done with that, if you feel you need to, theyre good too but they got removed from youtube and i don't have the link

>>41841060
Appreciated anon