/jp/ - Otaku Culture

So what happened to most of those megalinks anyway? Was it just one account that got taken down, or did someone seriously go around reporting multiple links?

>>41766164
Yea, TM probably did something with Mega since every link died at once no matter the age or who uploaded it.

>>41766164
I reported all of them.

Why are Arc and Ciel so incompetent? Arcueid talked about both of them were looking for Roa's coffin/lair. Arcueid showed up in Shiki's school on days 8 and 10. Original game's day 10 has a bad end where Roa kills Shiki and claims that the school is his lair now. Ciel and Noel leave the school only on day 11, meaning Roa completely ghosted all 3 of them.

>>41768282
That just goes to show how competent Roa is at hiding himself. He only showed up to Shiki because in his mind he wasn't a threat.
Albeit Arc was able to locate and smoke him out really quickly in Ciel's route so chances are being weakened might have dulled her senses.

LEN CONFIRMED IN MB

Last time I'm posting this, just in case
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wo0NDmd5-HU

https://twitter.com/ventvert0

>>41768282
In remake Ciel route Roa killed by Arcueid Day 7

>>41767260

>>41769960

>>41768613
Post the proof at least
https://twitter.com/petrikow/status/1592011865080881153?s=46&t=GvRTvJhWOa7Gv7mDF44SBQ

>>41770251
>>41768613
big if true

>>41770251
Len bros we won

>>41770251
Is this supposed to be a dev comment in the script? Regardless, it's not like Nasu was going to remake KT so Len being reintroduced in MB makes the most sense.

Len never felt like she contributed much to the story to me desu. Do you think they could do something interesting with her now?

>>41771448
I mean she can’t talk so probably not. She’ll probably have the same role she’s always had as Arc’s familiar.

>>41771448
>never contributed much to the story
She's the entire reason KT even happened and the focal point of the narrative

>>41771588
I thought she could talk but just didn't like to.

>>41769054

>>41771803
Yeah but she rarely talks besides her arcade mode with W Len. Think they’ll keep her mostly mute. Without KT in the new timeline there isn’t much to go on

>>41769054
I did reply in the last thread.

>>41772655
I think she talks two times at least. With Shiki probably.

>>41773598
https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm12043650

>>41766164
It seems that mega links all around 4chan are being reported

>>41773690
cute

>Type-Moon Visual Novel Collection (Japanese)
https://mega.nz/#F!BA4yHYoT!NwGVKj4q9Z1vnpKlYY-4UQ
>Mahoutsukai no Yoru
>Visual Novel:
https://mega.nz/#F!YVkkhAjQ!Ggu2BS3MDfaofporByJsF
>English Patch (Partial):
https://mega.nz/folder/ZM03yTgZ#VTNxaIU0DQLPGxdzxJJA0A
>Shingetsutan Tsukihime Manga:
https://mega.nz/#F!dRwwAZrT!uxmDDlwDTu3bgo9QIKgSrQ
>Mega Link:
https://mega.nz/folder/3hMjEaTK#TKTKhfXVd9v0emG8ePsDVQ
>MBAACC - Community Edition:
https://mega.nz/#!6FUx2C6a!L2AxbiQzPHtgRI3YPHv4NZfi2EYS9RMeNHoSp6pAcFw
>Melty Blood Manga:
https://mega.nz/#F!syICRSJI!TeAS9ZVFSDQigguqxn_MwA

Well, anyone got them backups? The biggest pain in the ass is probably going to be the Japanese TM VN collection. Manga's and mahoyo are pretty easy to find. I don't know jackshit about MBAACC but the nyaa link seems pretty comprehensive and it seems to include that too. Maybe we can just remove it.

Also remake pastebin anon, OST Rip(vgmstream) is dead too.

>>41773459
are you aoko

>>41774131
>Also remake pastebin anon, OST Rip(vgmstream) is dead too.
Man, they were really thorough with that Mega purge, weren't they?

>>41774131
>Type-Moon Visual Novel Collection (Japanese)
The only thing that actually matters. Didn't that include the half moon version of OG tsukihime? I literally can't find shit about it on the web other than that dead link. It'd be really great if someone got a backup of it.

>>41774211
Were it so easy.

>>41774649
a lucky anon of /tmg/ will come through and return what was lost
eventually
haha...

you had plenty of time to backup

Post TM tits.

>18 cents short from pre ordering mahayo

>>41775082
I feel like that's too big

>>41776043

https://news.toranoana.jp/228454

>the mahoyo comeback is so strong literally have to get all the doujins artist to join in kek

>>41774131

couldn't we um save those on a google docs? and make it a unlisted link?

>>41777016
Would that really change anything? Someone can report them and they could still get wiped out even without any reports.

>>41776231
anon, surely you have 1 more pay day before mahoyo comes out to cover that 18 cent difference

Okay I found the half moon version. Others shouldn't be too much of a problem. I'll upload all the dead links to alternatives in the upcoming days and post the updated OP whenever I finish it.
https://nyaa.si/view/1591168
For anyone interested, I got it from here. It's a pretty nice compilation.

>>41779574
Will we get to see hisui's smile in red garden bros?

>>41779969
Sure.

It took shorter than expected. Here's the new OP

A place for discussion of the great works by Kinoko Nasu / TYPE-MOON.

>Type-Moon Visual Novel Collection (Japanese)
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1tyCb9CZR_bh6ZyvK8N1v3HU0GhG6aTZe

>Mahoutsukai no Yoru
Visual Novel:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/177wSYqWfOpH_4AsGzY27sZOs8y84GWa9
English Patch (Partial):
https://mega.nz/folder/dBkXjbaa#e3rJvGTb9PT7TFVwjk-2ww
French Patch:
https://github.com/IDerr/mahoyo-french
Italian Patch:
https://riffourtranslations.wordpress.com/category/mahoutsukai-no-yoru

>Kara no Kyoukai
Kara no Kyoukai Novel (Japanese):
https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/shousetu/b/奈須きのこ_空の境界/index.html
Kara no Kyoukai Novel (English):
https://nyaa.si/view/1414316
Kara no Kyoukai Animated Films:
https://nyaa.si/view/264295
Kara no Kyoukai Manga:
https://nyaa.si/view/1187963

>Tsukihime
Tsukihime VN Collection:
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/3439039
Shingetsutan Tsukihime Manga:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1cC2cl1r46qDxKLQ6SJ2ss2V0JS8ihlpn

>Tsukihime Remake
Tsukihime Remake:
https://pastebin.com/QSz8A5Jf
English Patch (Arcueid Route):
https://tsukihimates.com

>Melty Blood
Melty Blood PC Collection:
https://nyaa.si/view/1042489
Melty Blood Manga:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1qfSckM1X-oLSl8DPCk9GqOydRRH5UjEq
Melty Blood - Back Alley Alliance Nightmare Manga:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/16jgRv-WneCDBF324U_MFsuguPFTt2J0S
Melty Blood - Type Lumina:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1372280/MELTY_BLOOD_TYPE_LUMINA/
Melty Blood - Type Lumina Community Translation Patch:
https://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread.php/9302-Melty-Blood-Type-Lumina-Community-Translation-Patch

>Fate
Fate/Stay Night [Réalta Nua] Ultimate Edition:
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/3748986
https://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread.php/9101-Fate-Stay-Night-Realta-Nua-Ultimate-Edition-2022
Fate/Hollow Ataraxia:
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/2575055
https://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread.php/7705-Fate-Hollow-Ataraxia-Voice-Patch
Fate/Spinoffs:
https://pastebin.com/Vgy14rSK

>Other Type-Moon Works
Angel Voice / Notes:
https://www.mediafire.com/file/4w9jk2bwy8b0xsh/Angel_Notes.zip/file
Fire Girl:
https://firegirlthetranslation.wordpress.com
Mahou Tsukai no Hako: Starlit Marmalade Manga:
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/y68oxcrmg8i6k/Sutamamo
Tsuki no Sango:
https://www.mediafire.com/?uq1eqhccbxhxktx
Tsuki no Sango Manga:
https://mangadex.org/chapter/773842/1
Haru to Tsuki to Sora to:
https://mega.nz/file/xlVwGY4K#170GaRCpftfOJXtBjbF1BYu3cNUaiM6aOJLWEkhLyKs

>Type-Moon Miscellaneous
Encyclopedia of Type-Moon:
https://mega.nz/folder/oM8EhIjQ#IAVmHGdLnalCs0B5mRhzRQ
Type-Moon Comic Ace:
https://web-ace.jp/tmca
TMdict Glossary:
https://www.tmdict.com
Tsuki-kan (comprehensive record of real-world statements, interviews, Q&As, feature articles, etc):
https://www.tsukikan.com
Tsukihime Archives:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1NBqMPjBkGiNk9vIgOtPyjNnpxeH5fmHI
Tsukihime Tokuhon:
https://exhentai.org/g/82076/173f6680ef

Previous:

>>41774367
Unfortunately
>Audio Files Rip
>Sound Effects Rip
>Videos Rip
are gone too.

>>41781589
Will report them again.

>>41781618

>>41781589
Nice.

>>41781589
>are gone too.
Yeesh, should've moved everything over to Gofile or Anonfiles when I had the chance.

>You should all read Fate/type redline!
How about no?

>>41781626

>Some random fag got Mega to shut down the links
But why.

>>41782923
fuck off

>>41783079
some people just hate good things

>>41781589
>>41774131
Anyone make a backup of TM manga?

Surprised no one is talking about the pixiv drama

>>41783862
Id like to see less gore but everything else is eyeraising

>>41783862
I'm a bit out of the loop. What's going on with it? Are they banning loli?

>>41783862
>>41783918
Pixiv Fanbox, booth and requests have updated terms of service to disallow certain content due to western credit card companies. Similar to what happened to R18

This doesn't seem to be a full ban on the site entirely, but basically you can no longer monetize any of this content. Still will likely create yet another small exodus from the site.

>>41784051
>western
(((western)))

No physical disk for europoors, huh...guess we'll have to settle for digital.

>>41785173
>we
Only eops

>>41785173
Eurobros...we keep getting cucked...

https://twitter.com/KaroshiMyriad/status/1592385052209713152?t=WqpuypVfZ0Lv36JjG-aMjw&s=19

>>41784051
My big issue with pixiv is crazy memory leaks.

>>41774131
>>41781589
>>41783079
I'd recommend writing the MEGA links in base64 as to deter idiots (hopefully uncapable of reading it) from reporting them. We could signal that in the OP by writing (64) or even (base64) before the links.

For example:
>Type-Moon Miscellaneous
Encyclopedia of Type-Moon (base64):
aHR0cHM6Ly9tZWdhLm56L2ZvbGRlci9vTThFaElqUSNJQVZtSEdkTG5hbENzMEI1bVJoelJR

We would just need to access this site https://www(dot)base64encode.org/ or a similar one to decode. Not very welcoming to newcomers, I know. But is it preferrable, /tmg/?

>>41786641
do you even understand what that means

>>41786641
How do you know that? And more importantly, how does this have any impact on you?

>>41786641
>>41788184
Poorfag here, browsing Pixiv for just 20 minutes feels noticeably sluggish, that anon is right

>>41788346
How bad is your machine? Mine is kinda average and never had any trouble.
Regardless, that isn't what memory leak means.

>>41787358
I reported the new links already though

>>41788998
Why?

>>41788998
Just so I know, do you have something against western type moon fans specifically, or is it piracy? What gives?

>>41789276
shiki is so lucky

Shirou and Rin having SEIGI.

>>41787956
>>41788184
After a dozen or so page openings, the site just stops loading and eventually gives out of memory, then it resets.

What's SEIGI

Why is Zero not considered canon?

>>41790946
It is.

I fucking hate art collecting so much.

>>41791589
what do you mean

>>41791758
every platform for art is gay as hell, they all have major qol issues.

>>41770251
White Len will return too right? RIGHT?!

>>41770251
>>41793743
"レン" or "Len" is actually short for "Li Shuwen". He will be reintroduced as a Tsuki char in red garden. Sorry to disappoint

fgobabby here. nearly 3 years ago i read the saber route in fsn and quit there cuz i was autistically emotional and didnt wanna betray saber. ive finally got back on track and started reading UBW.

does anyone have that spaghetti cat pic of shiki and len?

Hmm... I wonder why I have the feeling this person will have shitty retarded takes on Rin/Shirou.

>>41770251
That's been floated for at least a month.

>>41773598
She definitely talks to w.len too

>>41793887
Wait till you get to Remake kek.

Pick One
Less than one month until EOP can read Mahoyo and realize it is
A)Mid
B)The last great work of Nasu
C)Great but overated
D)What the fuck? This took 10 years? LolTrannymoon.

>>41794521
I've read the demo and already concluded that it'll be KOTD (Kamige of the Decade)

>>41794539
>Reads almost nothing
>I've decided
Why are you like this?

>>41794633
I'm just built differently. I can smell the difference between kamige and kusoge in an instant.

>>41760478
Sounds like headcanon. Ryougi is definitely not operating on some scale higher than Arc let alone some universal scale. The stupid fox/egg was more explicitly described with that term as well even more recently. It is probably simply giving a nasubabble reason for why Ryougi is coming into conflict(cameoing) as an agent. I wouldn't take some pre-remake guest showdown that's not even recognized in their latest meeting as anything serious or implicative of some lore he's planning to explore.

>>41793887
>not finishing FSN yet
You didn't betray saber. You betrayed yourself

>>41794521
C&D

Shieru
https://skeb.jp/@MadoroQ/works/13

>>41795754
>https://skeb.jp/@MadoroQ/works/13
Kawaii

>>41794539
Sorry bro, but that's Muramasa

>>41795754
thanks for more art of Ciel and Shiki kissing. Doing God's work.

https://twitter.com/lllhaaaaalhal/status/1593153224747646976?s=46&t=zL0Utlas__9VVku_IYTZdg Back when TM still had soul.

>>41794521
D) is the only non-retarded choice. Don't disappoint me EOPs.

Can't believe this is actually real

>>41794712
>The stupid fox/egg was more explicitly described with that term as well even more recently
Source? What do you mean by this?

>>41796505
Saving it for the anime.

>>41797571
>that whole sequence with ARC in the anime
Stop it I can only get so hard.

>>41797595
Back Alley scene animated and then Arc:"Let's continue where we left off"

>>41796921
Arcueid may not even have been talking to Shiki initially. It seemed like she was talking philosophically or to/about something else in the first half of their conversation. The world or whatever this concept is related to perhaps rather than the Shiki's who have no in-character reason to appear. I don't think much of it and there isn't even much to ruminate on regarding the term given how infrequently it has appeared but to me it seems to be similar to the Humanity/Gaia balance and Mankind and the Planet's "relationship" though people can only speculate. I've seen people suggest
that it's related to Foreigners in some way possibly and the term is most recently and directly used relative to fox whores 「めでたきめでたき。天狐即ち宙の理。太陽など、いずれ呑み干してみせましょう」
Either way it's mostly just an excuse for her summoning as an agent back in 2009 imo.

>>41797622
>Let's continue where we left off
I wish women were real

>>41795754
>Shieru
How many people pronounce her name like that? I just use Ciel.

>>41797911
All nips because they have no clue how to speak french. I don't know how you're supposed to say it either.

>>41797938
Sea L
See El

I heard One Piece finally moved past its prologue
Mahoyo's Part 1 is also just the prologue, right?

>>41798125
Yeah, the catch is rest of it won't be coming out in our lifetime.

>>41794521
Why make fun of hollow moon if the translation made by F/GO NA and MBTL team is also going to be shit? I think KnK LN is the only TM product with a competent translation.

>>41798190
>KnK LN
>Competent
The Bone of my Bait.

>>41798234
Whatever, I just don't remember people whining about it as much as with Tsukihime or F/SN.

>>41794816
i did finish her route thats why i didnt wanna continue

>>41798269
>>41794816
i just reread that post nvm i just woke up

>>41798284
Finish FSN and end it with the Sparks Liner High followed by Last Episode

>>41798190
>F/GO NA and MBTL team
These two are completely different groups. Latter isn't involved.
>Why make fun of hollow moon
Imagine sitting 4 years on JP->FR->EN MTL translation for e-peen points and getting cucked by official translation from fucking Type-Moon of all companies. The difference between an official TL and fan TL in this case are simple, both are shit in quality but one of them actually works on the game and delivers. All that's left is to laugh at the clowns.

>>41798391
The only somewhat funny bit about this whole situation is their inability to deliver it before the official translation, despite having this entire year since the announcement.

>>41798391
This.
The facts that matter are that Aniplex delivered and that HollowMoon couldn't despite starting with half of a decade of an advantage.
Also the fact that those faggots were actually thinking they were gonna be the ones translating the Tsukihime Remake, kek.

>>41794096

>>41794521
>Mid
Die you underage retard.

I hate queers so much, it's unreal.

>>41798676
im glad we avoided the nightmare scenario of hollow moon translating tsukire, its very cathartic to see them get absolutely btfo'd recently

>>41798969
I love queers so much it’s unreal

>>41799775
Dumb homo/fujo/yurifag.

>>41800154
calm

>>41768282
>>41768503
Mario is way more competent than Ciel/Noel. He finds Roa easily and instantly realizes when Shiki is not Roa just by talking to him.

>>41800589
Oh yeah he found Roa almost at the same time as Arc in Ciel's route. Though I think he might have been following her.

>>41800416
No.

Why is everyone in Fate such bisluts?

>>41801192
No integrity.

>>41801407
Forgive me /tmg/, but Castoria is just too cute...

Wow Mahoyo advertising!

>>41801539
>rated M
wat

>>41801548
>he doesn't know about the H-scenes
bro...

>>41801556
>EOPs get the H scenes while the nips don't
I feel ripped off

>>41801618
Have to appeal to the west somehow

>>41801477
Why do you love her?

just finished UBW
9/10 not because i was already a rinfag but because it made me actually like shirou

>>41801539
Where?

>>41801632
who doesn't love a dumb hat?

>dreaming that I was shopping in a department store
>pass by the books section
>glance at the best sellers section, specifically the romance section
> number 2 is a tiger-stripped cover
>book is called "Diary of a Teacher in Love"
>has a western cartoon version of Taiga in the cover
>think "what the fuck this is Taiga from FSN this makes no sense" and realize it's a dream
>enter lucid dream mode and dream falls apart within seconds, waking me up
I wish I was making it up, what the FUCK did my brain mean by this dream and why has Nasu poisoned my mind so much?
Sorry for blogposting but it was so absurd and oddly specific that I had to share it.

>>41801770
Did you like the romance, or are you a faggot?

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>

>

>>41801539
>big fuckoff advertisements for officially translated Nasu VNs

I know it has been said a million times but imagine John Titoring pics like these back to like circa 2008 4chan. People would go fucking nuts.

>>41802617
why do they make such a cute couple?

>

>

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>>41802627
Domineering and corrupt vs. meek and pure

>>41802627
There's nothing more cursed than being a yurifag. At least you're straight, right?

Stop being gay.

>>41802696
>*kt_kohakulickingandfingeringhisui.png*

>>41802713
It was done against her will.

>>41802720
Sure, honey.

>>41802723

>>41802696
Hisui should be gay due to her fear of men.

Why are queers in the Nasuverse so fucking degenerate?

>>41802763
If my only exposure to men was Makihisa Tohno, SHIKI and Nanaya, then I would be afraid of men too.

>>41802764
>queers in the Nasuverse
name 5

>>41802798
Kohaku.
Koker.
Ukahok.
琥珀.
Amber.

>

>>41802778
Exactly so she should be bi or gay.

>>41802906
That's not how it works

I think we posted some time ago all the gay shit there's in several Nasuverse works excluding FGO and that other work[/spoiler].

Too much meidoposting today

>still the straightest Nasuverse heroine after more than 20 years
How does she do it?

>>41802997
There's no such thing as too much meidoposting

does anyone know what UBW day has the scene where shirou can't stop thinking about how cool kanshou and bakuya are? im trying to screenshot a line of dialogue to show someone

What would you do in this situation?

>>41803064
Who am I in this situation?

>>41803005
believing in christ

>>41803028
Day 6, Archer vs Caster.
https://lparchive.org/Fatestay-night/Update%20152/
https://fatestaynight.vnovel.org/ubw/6th-day/11#page54
I remember it, because the anime adapted that, but made it WAY too subtle.

>>41803071
Saber, watching from the cuck corner

>>41802578
Even pre Tsukihime remake TM would lose their minds

>>41803085
Isn't there another scene where Shirou says a line like "Fine I admit it, I like his swords" in his head?

>>41803137
I don't remember that much, sorry. There's this scene in Fall down, your mind where Shirou says those two swords prevent his eyes from closing.
https://lparchive.org/Fatestay-night/Update%20153/
https://fatestaynight.vnovel.org/ubw/6th-day/12#page37

Other than that, I don't remember anything else.

>>41802997

ciel sex

akiha sex

arc sex

noel sex

>>41802627

What does ryougi smell like

>tfw epos will ruin mahoyo soon

>>41803338
purple necco wafers

deseo tener sexo con arcueid

>>41803338
Ice cream and cats

>>41803340
epo?

>>41803359
those look painful... does she use the 5th magic to levitate her aokos?

>>41803522
She is using Alice as a surfboard.

This is canon

>>41803545
i would eat it

The maids are sluts!

>>41803569
*bisluts

>>41803573
me on left

Hisui is literally perfection.

>>41803611
But her cooking…

Hisui has seen the ceiling of every janitor shed/shack in Misaki Town.

Multiple times.

>>41803617
it can be fixed

>>41803545
What's wrong with this? Asking unironically.

>>41803064
Kill the pedo

>>41803803
over 16 years ago

>>41803774
Despite it's simplicity and age, this image makes me really horny for some reason.

Always love the small drip of Pokémon and Fate art

Shirou and Rin being lewd https://twitter.com/snowrich114/status/1593520456619167745?s=46&t=8khlScRK0Szec9kE1iTfOA

>>41805540
not lewd enough

>>41805540
Toyoyuki is a treasure.

>>41805698
Well, they've released two doujin already so...

>>41803803
Kohaku is 100% heterosexual.

>>41803785
Nice, where is this from?

did somebody here read fate/labyrint?

>>41782301
it's not bad, the pacing is a bit all over the place, but there's potential

>>41807054
Thanks, but I'll pass.

Mahoyo advertising!

>>41802207
>Nasu
That's all Taiga's doing, anon.
And I also hate when lucid dreams kick me the fuck out

Do you consider Nasu to be a good romance writer?

>>41766032
Can someone link me the latest remiyax? I think it was v7

>>41808531
No not really. He's good at character writing but most Nasuverse romances feel forced.

>>41808557
This is a total fucking contradiction because basically half or more of his characters are defined by their romantic relationships and wouldn't be anywhere near as compelling without them.

>>41808568
I don't see the contradiction. Nasu is just bad at writing romantic interactions. You can be a good character writer but struggle with having two different characters interact each other organically.

>>41808557
>>41808626
His romances are great. Get better taste.

>>41801770
>>41802498
UBW is my favourite route. All the romance shit takes a back seat and the focus is on Shirou vs Archer ideals clash. The romance in UBW is really underwhelming and easily the worst of the 3 routes, just like Rin's role in her own route, she really is just the romantic interest in it because the structure of the VN demanded it, it just doesn't feel natural. UBW is a romanticization of ideals and following your dream because even if some Shirou failed, that doesn't mean the Shirou we are following is also doomed to fail.

Unlike Fate, its beginning does not drag whatsoever. Its pacing is very consistent. It manages to balance action and character moments excellently. It has a consistent level of quality lacking in the other two routes. UBW would be even better if it had proper Ilya and Kotomine focus.

On the other hand, HF is about Shirou and Kotomine as much as it's about anything. After rejecting his ideas, Shirou becomes a foil to Kotomine -- two people with nothing but a fanatical drive to fulfill their desires. Their fight is the climax of the whole Fate franchise.

Fate route would need a pretty serious overhaul to keep people interested after being exposed to the exciting heights that are reached in UBW, HF, and Zero.

Assassin simply vanishes after being introduced in Fate.
Archer is left to die offscreen against Heracles.
Lancer is left to die offscreen against Gilgamesh.
Rider's identity is never clarified, and her climactic scene was to be destroyed by Excalibur, which is altogether unimpressive.
Caster shows up for all of a few seconds to mutter some evil things, then be slaughtered by Gilgamesh.
Illyasviel's story is not made clear beyond "she's the Einzbern master".
Rin just sort of doesn't do anything at all after Archer is eliminated.

>>41808666
I honestly can't think of any "great" Nasuverse pairing. Shiki and Kokutou? Even that is kinda mediocre.

>>41808683
Shiki and Arc + Shiki and Ciel

>>41808690
>Shiki and Arc
I mean, Arc is cute but it's fairly one-sided. Shiki doesn't contribute much to the pairing.
>Shiki and Ciel
Same as above, except I can't think of any reason why Ciel would be interested in Shiki considering how loose and noncommittal the romance is.

>>41808701
>Shiki doesn't contribute much to the pairing.
what? It's peak boy meets girl.

>>41808683
Shirou and Sakura. Shiki and Akiha.

>>41808669
what's your favourite SN pairing?

>>41808626
>Nasu is just bad at writing romantic interactions.
Rin and Shirou.

>>41808701
Ciel definitely had the best chemistry with Shiki out of all the other girls. Shiki and Ciel are literally like a married couple from the very start of the VN.

In the VN, Ciel is consistently the only character that is shown to be competent, assured, and benign. She is consistently the only character Shiki can trust. She is, consistently, the only character that knows what she's doing, and is willing to help Shiki. When Shiki is babbling around like the retard he so often is in the VN, Ciel is always here to reassure him, help him get back on his feet, and is just a great human bean in general.

Ciel was a secretive mask-upon-mask character and becomes unpredictable because of how often she switches between them even though Ciel acts completely independent from Shiki and the rest of Tsukihime's plot. The umbrella scene where Ciel finds Shiki in the rain and he has nowhere to go, so she takes him to her apartment and help him get back to his regular self. That scene is also triggered by having Shiki face reality instead of denying that it happened and having him believe that it was just a dream.

Ciel was cool as hell, with Ciel running up the wall and attacking from the fucking CEILING and Shiki can’t help but be honest and think of it as “charmingly beautiful”.

Ciel doesn't fit into a shallow archetype, her personalty and actions are strongly motivated, the pacing of her arc was great, the true ending landed the bittersweet vibe.

>>41808669
>All the romance shit takes a back seat and the focus is on Shirou vs Archer ideals clash.
This has been debunked a thousand times.

>"I'm telling you that's crazy!
>Look, if you were saved, take care of yourself! >I'm sorry for the people who got killed, but it's only by chance that you were saved!

>Then you should take full advantage of your good fortune. You suffered such a hell, so it'll be a waste if you don't have fun!"

>Tohsaka is seriously angry.
>"————"
>Yeah, that makes me happy.
>I finally realize now, because Tohsaka is that kind of person.

>The questions I've been wondering about all this time.
>I wanted to be a superhero, and I always tried to help others.
>I knew there was something wrong with the method, but I did not understand what.

>But it's so clear now.
>It's because of this person that is seriously angry for my sake.

https://lparchive.org/Fatestay-night/Update%20204/

>>41808748
Rin was a poor match for Shirou because she functioned better as a friend, teacher, mentor, ally. Their romance was tacked on as a justification for JACK HAMMERING. Sakura was an ideal romantic interest because she made him decide what every woman makes men decide: ideals or love.

>>41808531
His romances are good, but I wouldn't call him a romance writer.

>>41808748
Rin and Shirou have a power imbalance that makes them a poor match. Shirou is basically the woman of the relationship which feels odd and unnatural.

>>41808709
Boy meets girl romance is not organic or interesting. I've honestly read better nukiges that represent this trope.

The way some people talk about the characters in this franchise makes you wonder if you even played the same game as them.

I need your help, I pre-ordered Mahoyo from Amazon thru Aniplex of America a while back and I checked my order again today, and the cover art was changed and the manufacturer changed to Koei? What the fuck does this mean?

>>41808557
Putting aside how it's written, to me it seems Shirou and Saber became a pretty iconic pairing, so something worked.

>>41808763
>Rin was a poor match for Shirou because she functioned better as a friend, teacher, mentor, ally.
No she doesn't. Even in Fate and HF their relationship is defined by their mutual feelings for one another.

>Their romance was tacked on as a justification for JACK HAMMERING.
You do realize that the entire finishing lap is integral to Rin and Shirou's characters, and their romantic relationship, right? Shirou achieves his dream of becoming a seigi no mikata thanks to Rin's love and support (symbolized by her mana), while Rin surrounders herself to her idealistic side thanks to Shirou's influence and chooses to save Shinji despite its not being the practical or pragmatic thing to do because she chooses to believe in Shirou's ideal of saving everyone.

>Sakura was an ideal romantic interest because she made him decide what every woman makes men decide: ideals or love.
That was Zouken, retard.

>>41808810
How many boy meets girl start off with the boy slicing the girl into 17 pieces? Don't be a contrarian retard.

>>41808839
That doesn't really make it interesting from a romance context though. It's just classic chuunige edge.

>>41808853
It's completely essential to their romance. Fix your taste.

>>41808863
Shiki just feels obligated to be by her side because he weakened her. Obviously from Arc perspective it makes Shiki an interesting enigma to her, but like I said that just adds to my whole point about their pairing being one-sided.

>>41808801
That applies more so to Shirou/Saber and even then it's a dumb reason to hate on it. Shirou is still decidedly masculine and Saber is still feminine.

>>41808880
>Shirou is still decidedly masculine and Saber is still feminine.
This is why it doesn't apply to Shirou/Saber. The entire point of their romance was about Shirou and Saber seeing themselves as equals despite gender differences. Rin clearly wears the pants in her relationship

>>41808903
>seeing themselves as equals despite gender differences.
nta but wait, what do gender differences have to do with their relationships? At most you could say Saber discovered a feminine side of her, no?

>>41808879
Arc is an interesting enigma to Shiki too. It works the other way. Shiki never went out of his way for someone before like he did with Arc.

>>41808923
>Shiki never went out of his way for someone before like he did with Arc.
Akihabros... we have been forgotten...

>>41808810
>>41808853
Pretty much this. Tsukihime's plot and characters are great but the romance feels forced. The same applies to the far side, except for Akiha.

>>41808930
I mean yeah that's pretty much the premise of the near side. He doesn't give a flying fuck about the mansion/tohno family stuff there.

>>41808931
>but the romance feels forced
You can't possibly say this about remake Ciel.

>>41803687
You need to eat better bro…

>>41808965
Why? What's wrong with nuggies?

>nukige with better romance
>arcueid x shiki is forced
>rin is a bad match for shirou
are we getting actually baited?

>>41809008
One of those is true but I'm not gonna tell you which one

>>41809008
all me btw

>>41809008
>>nukige with better romance
I mean, is this really that controversial as a statement?

>>41809084
only for people who don't real nukige

>>41808832
>Putting aside how it's written, to me it seems Shirou and Saber became a pretty iconic pairing, so something worked.

Why does Shirou and Saber get so much hate?

euphoria is my favorite love story

>>41809111
I woulnd't call it hate, but for what I see around the other routes seem to be more appreciated even just for the story

>>41808709
I love it that Shiki is the tsundere straight man in their relationship rather than the other way around.

>>41808992
Yes Akiha. Your diet has to be more than fast food and blood.

>>41808903
>The entire point of their romance was about Shirou and Saber seeing themselves as equals despite gender differences.
Which Rin and Shirou do not... somehow.

>>41809702
Rin babysits Shirou. Her role bestowed by Archer at the end of UBW is basically to be Shirou's babysitter.

Latinobros...we won
https://youtu.be/wUobjL1RQ0A

Nasu's romance is passable at best, dunno what you're talking about.

>>41809763
>Rin babysits Shirou. Her role bestowed by Archer at the end of UBW is basically to be Shirou's babysitter.

What's wrong with that?

>>41809815
I mean, Rin can't even change her own diapers without help. How is she going to babysit Shirou?

Sudou said Shirou was literally a generic shounen main character in UBW. HF was where he finally grew up

>After the release of the original game, how was the response to HF?
>I felt that users want feel-good stories more than anything else. If you play Fate and UBW, you get to taste feel-good storytelling for roughly 40 hours. So I felt that there was no need for HF to be a feel-good story after all that, but then I learned that apparently not all users feel the same way. I reflected on this greatly, and came to the conclusion that for some works, it's okay to aim for being feel-good all the way through. I believe that if it weren't for my reflection back then, Type Moon wouldn't be the way it is today.

>Takeuchi: I think Rin is a character who is all about potential. Maybe that's why I'm only truly appreciating her now. Saber felt so complete right from the start, and the poetic beauty of her pairing with Shirou only added to the perfection. In Rin's case, however, a lot of events and situations like that whole London deal kept bringing out new sides of her that we hadn't previously seen. She makes you think about what "potential" really means, in a variety of ways. For example, if we were to do a spin-off story for Saber that took place in the Knights of the Round Table era, we still wouldn't be able to disband or do without the pairing of Saber and Shirou. That combination is just so complete that it's hard to adapt it to totally different situations. Rin, on the other hand, is more of a free agent because her relationship with Shirou doesn't define her in any way. Of course we have the Archer/Rin pairing, but a Lancer/Rin pairing would work out just as well and be just as good in its own way. We could even set up a story where Rin and Luvia are fighting over Shirou. In this way, I feel like Rin has earned her place as a face of the "Fate" series right alongside Saber.

>>41808701
I love Arc x Shiki as it explores the concept of what-ifs and dreams. The intro sequence where Shiki's family is killed implies Arc and Shiki are tied by destiny across time and space.

>>41809919
Funnily enough I feel like Nasu pulls the same shit with Shirou and Saber. Their relationship is bound by fate (no pun intended) and is almost ethereal and beyond human comprehension.

>>41809865
>we still wouldn't be able to disband or do without the pairing of Saber and Shirou. That combination is just so complete that it's hard to adapt it to totally different situations.
I never really got this kind of point, sure, in the Fate route specifically she's completely dependent on Shirou for her development, but I think she can shine even on her own/ with other characters personality wise, and even evolve in other ways.
I mean, it's even possible she found her own peace in UBW without Shirou's love.

>>41809999
It is pretty much the same thing, but Arc x Shiki is way better imo.

>>41809999
I think it is exactly because their experiences are so similar that they work so well. I mean they definitely have the star-crossed lovers motif going on but what makes their relationship work is exactly that groundedness in their real experiences, that neither of them could find a person besides the other who could understand their feelings and experiences like the two of them could each other.

Like it's less about their story being an archetypical boy meets girl and more about two people from very bizarre circumstances coming to understand each other.

>>41810052
>Like it's less about their story being an archetypical boy meets girl and more about two people from very bizarre circumstances coming to understand each other.

Which is practically the only thing all of the "poster pairs" share in the Nasuverse now that I think about it.

>>41810056
>the only thing

A common thing, I meant to say.

>>41810052
i wanna hug saber, she looks so sad in that sprite

>>41810052
The bridge scene unironically made me tear up. Call me a faggot I guess, it's executed perfectly.

>>41810052
I want to punch saber in the nose.

>>41810073
I don't think she would like that then and there, IIRC that's where she and Shirou have their last big argument.

>>41810078

>>41810076
This pic looks nice, but her torso is way too long. Look at where her thigh leads, how low that would make her hips, and how weird that looks considering how much further up her waistline is.

>>41810079
yeah it was, regardless i still wanna hug her really badly

>>41809111
>>41810052
Fate was Shirou trying to make someone happy, Saber, the basement scene in Fate revolves wholly around the knife Kirei stabs in Shirou's old scars by revealing that all the orphans that got taken in from the church while he got adopted by Kiritsugu were turned into living corpses, drained of all their fluids for the sake of keeping Gilgamesh in this world. One of the most powerful lines in the VN is when Kirei says "That is right, Emiya Shirou. If you had not been taken by Emiya Kiritsugu, you would have been one of them. Do you understand? You alone survived, once again." Yet despite all the new guilt washing over him, Shirou rejects using the Grail to change the past, a powerful affirmation of his strength of character, one that helps Saber change her mind on her own wish to alter the past.

Shirou and Kirei are hilariously compatible.

>Your wish will not come true unless there is a clear evil. Even if it's not something you approve of, a hero of justice requires a villain to defeat.
> “…If there’s no Holy Grail, there’s no reason to fight. This ridiculous fight is pointless.”
>“You have no reason to fight, huh? Why do you say that now? You had no reason to fight from the very beginning.
>tells shirou he's responsible for almost ending the world a decade a go and that he WILL do it again

Shirou and Kirei died on the same day during the fire with Angra bringing Kirei back and Avalon bringing Shirou back. When Shirou is half-dead and held hostage in the church basement, he can sense Angra Mainyu's power holding Kirei's body together. He even describes it as a twisted parallel to Avalon, since at that moment both of them are only alive thanks to the respective magics lodged in their torso.

The point of both Fate and UBW is that you can't get hung up on your regrets, to be proud of your accomplishments, to be able to move on. Both Saber and Archer (EMIYA) learn this lesson. Even if tragedy happens later, it wasn't a mistake. In a sense, that means Iskander has the last laugh. Not in terms of his kingship, but in terms of his mindset about the past. He can and will mourn what happens, he can regret, but he will never try to erase it. That's more or less the same realization that Shirou has in the church basement when he flashes back to the fire ten years ago, and it's the ultimate end of both Saber and Archer's (EMIYA) character arc.

HF is a dark and twisted mirror of Fate route and has the character completely break down as he is forced to realize that living up to the ideals he had cherished would require killing the person he values the most, Sakura. And in the end Shirou still wants to help and save people. He just shifts his priorities to prioritize those close to him and those he can actually realistically protect.

>>41810091
That's not her thigh...

>>41810112
Anon...doesn't your dong come from your hips, too? Might you be an alien?

>>41810108
Nice analysis, but I'm curious, what do you think of the last episode added in realta nua?

Defend this

>>41810187
Power of love > power of rage.

Saber was also supercharged by Shirou's cum and Shirou himself was way too pumped to lose to anybody after losing his virginity to King Arthur of all people.

>>41810187
Caliburn = strong
Saber holding Shirou's projection = rank up
rank up = pierces god hand
scene = kino because they're holding hands and its symbolic

>>41810187
Nothing to defend.

In Fate, he has utter trust in Kirei and cares to claim Saber.
In UBW, he doesn't give a fuck about any of them.
In HF, he "realizes" (what?) Kirei's goal just now (lol which he should know earlier) and hangs around so Kirei can monologue. He doesn't give a shit about Saber.

Defend this

>>41810187
It's okay for writers to have retarded asspulls like this from time to time

>>41810296
>It's okay for writers to have retarded asspulls like this from time to time

Was NLBW an asspull?

>>41810187
It's just DOT ez

>>41809763
Uh, no. Rin is not Shirou's therapist, she's his anchor; she's someone that he can call home. Wherever Shirou may go, whichever edges of the earth he may reach, he will always value his time spent with Rin more than anything. Her warm smile and supporting kind words will always beckon him back to where he belongs; with her. Shirou pursues his dream because it makes him happy. But ultimately, it is Rin who makes him happiest. Shirou isn't saved by Rin through her micromanaging what he does; he is saved by the fact that she reminds him of the value of his life, by the pleasing warmth that fills his heart whenever he remembers that there is someone one out there who unconditionally loves him, who cares about his well-being and wishes for nothing more in the world than that he may be happy.

And make no mistake -- Archer bestowed absolutely nothing on Rin. She choose of her own volition to save the boy that she loves. She in fact stood in his defence against Archer at multiple times. It is she who took him on a date, who was concerned about his inability to have fun for himself, who reprimanded him when she realized the darkness that plagued the heart of her most beloved person >>41808761. Archer's request is but a narrative device, a convenient tool to inform the audience of Rin's intentions; but also to show how far Archer has come.

You clearly understood very little about their relationship.

>>41810302
No because
>Archers arm
>weakened Berserker

>>41809807
I hate this

>>41810279
Nasu constantly rehashes literally every single thing about his works.

Gil vs Shirou is literally Shiki vs Nero or Lugh vs Sojuro

>>41809807
Melty Blood: Type Lumina Latin American Spanish dub when?

>>41810468
None of those are similar in any way other than "the underdog wins". Stop reading wikis.

>>41810468
Hack Nasu keeps having the protagonist fighting dudes.

>>41809807
I didn't know hispanics were so into weebery.

>>41810519
did you think dbz/shounen spics was just a meme?

>>41810519
Latin America used to get a lot of anime that Americans didn't, and they also dubbed them into a wide variety of accents.
Most of them had the regular neutral accents, but some big ones like Mazinger Z and Candy Candy had strong Cuban and Argentine accents, respectively.

>>41810519
>he doesn't know

>>41810550
>>41810538
>>41810537
I'm not american and I guess hispanic weebs are just not as loud or numerous as black weebs are in the greater western fandom of weeb stuff (as far as non-caucasian weebs go). It was just a bit of a blind spot for me.

Favorite OST? Favorite Moment in the Nasuverse VN's?

>>41810576
question too broad
head empty
no thoughts

Now I remember that time when I first read this post, and how I, for some reason, laughed for more than 10 minutes. I think the image attached to it adds to the humour.

>>41810617
same

>>41810576
>Favorite Moment in the Nasuverse VN's?
Rin embracing Sakura in Heaven's Feel.

>>41809008
>>rin is a bad match for shirou
For me it's how every time sometimes posts something akin to that they virtually all pussy out of any in-depth discussion. Unless they are that one schizo in particular, in which case they completely ignore any argument being presented or the supporting evidence being used to buttress them.

>>41810722
>Tokiomi's greatest desire in Zero was seeing his kids fight to the death one day

What did he mean by this

kinda wish shipfaggotry was banned as a global rule

UBW sucks. You cannot write a compelling prequel that sets up a conflict that ends with

>Your future self comes back to the past to tell you that you're being retarded and he wants to kill you to end the pain, you accept that he's right, but refuse to stop being retarded and commit yourself to a life of hardship and regret.
>Your adopted father's real daughter dies in agony in front of your eyes. You never never bond with your sister, or even learn about her past or your connection to her.
>Saber ends up little more than a glorified cheerleader. She sits by and claps while your future self is clobbering you and while your girlfriend who is also her Master is almost raped and killed and actually saved by the villain forgetting what his servant does.
>Your girlfriend abandons her last living relative to literal hell and gives up all her dreams in life so she can tard wrangle you for the rest of your lives in a hope that you won't end up regretting everything and wishing to go back in time to undo it.

The character arc of every single character in UBW collapses under the slightest scrutiny.

Archer is quite literally me.

>>41810818
zased
>>41810823
kill yourself

>>41810823
>gives up all her dreams in life
what?

>>41809865
>Sudou
Pretty sure it was Nasu himself who said it.

>>41810840
The smuggest asshole I ever saw, I can't hate him

>>41810894

>>41810823
Surveyposter strikes again. But I'll bite.

>first point
The entire point of UBW is that Shirou discovers through introspection that the reason he chose to be a superhero because he found it fun. Saving people was the only way he could feel happy because he felt he did not deserve to be happy otherwise. Having regained his self-worth thanks to Rin's love, Shirou chooses to pursue his dream insofar as it makes him happy. Archer never made that realization, which is why he complains about the fact that Counter-Guardians don't actually save people (at least not directly); he never gets to see anyone happy after he has saved them. That's why it's so torturous for him. He never loved a girl like Shirou does Rin, nor did said girl love him back like Rin does Shirou.

>second and third point
Not relevant lmao

>fourth point
Rin doesn't accompany Shirou on all his travels. She literally says in the anime epilogue that she will only act as his sidekick for a little way until she decides it's time for her to settle down at Clock Tower. See: >>41810313.