/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>41761935
Good op.

yosh new thread

Daily JeKaPAImerzzioon
https://files.catbox.moe/47zg3t.mp4

>>41762013
爆乳！

yoooo immersion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzQ1c_NAedA

>>41762013
>牛柄ビキニ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StJSLw5Z1H4
japan is back to normal bros

>>41762067
jap girls are not cute

>>41761995
yooooo
https://youtube.com/shorts/iRXqMAwxNYM?feature=share

>>41762101
cute desuwa!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=io5cCvExRek
rewatching danganronpa, such a fun series

>>41762045
6 hours of goemon... based doggos

>>41762013
boobies

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTKSRqYHs4U
currently immersing

yooooo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkExCVTD16E

>>41762592
she's not dressed like a giga whore so there's no point
competition amongst asian piano girls on youtube is fierce

>>41762592
i think you need to study more. not all moonrunes are japanese buddy.

>>41762613
not to mention. What shitty playin'. I wouldn't embarrass myself putting out performances like that (i play guitar)

as for me? pan piano
i don't care if she's a chink

Can I put い on the end of any noun to turn it into an adjective? Like, can 犬い mean dog-like?

>>41762678
っぽい・っぽ

>>41762683
So 犬っぽい?

>>41762689
yes

カニっぽい

>>41762592
this is why im learning japanese
>>41762678
犬っぽい

>>41762694
Neat.

あなたの母が犬っぱい

jamal

>>41762699
Okayu is based for practising listening. She has such a clear, well spoken voice.

>>41762769
true, shame shes on break forever
her album is great too

>>41762808
Yeah she's an actual banger machine.

>>41762814
yeah with me

shoujos operating big mechas is peak anime

>>41762853
im actually watching gunbuster atm what a coinkydink

>>41762884
おかえり....
i should probably watch gb 2 at some point

anime is was a mistake. sigh... if i had to pick one, maybe this

merging english words with japanese words should be illegal

私を見て！

>>41762915
they're japanese words

>>41762915
和製英語

>の中に中出して
first time ever that i see nakadasi as a verb

I can read ~3000+ kanji. Been learning for 15 months. AMA.
Though desclaimer, there are a couple of sort aggressive questions I get often whenever I tell this to people. Stuff like "Uuh ok but can you write them?" No, I don't live in Japan and have no plans of moving there, so it's a useless skill but I might start practicing it if I get bored enough
"Uuh but can you write this post in japanese?" I guess I could, but it wouldn't even be close to native level japanese. Of course I can't speak fluently after 15 months of learning
However, there is a question which I can answer positively to. "How's your comprehension?". Very good. That's how I learned all these kanji after all. The title could be "How I reached close to native level japanese comprehension just by reading books and visual novels in 1 year" but having 3000 kanji under my belt sounds better as a title

>>41763373
Mnemonics are powerful.

does deepl block out "rape" or sth? Can't get the same stimulus out of my nakige with that horseshite
>>41763373
RTK? same here bro

>>41763443
Could be but I didn't use any.

Everything kinda made sense while I was grinding core2.3k, the way same kanji were used in different words was more or less consistent, same few readings, related meanings. But once I started my mining deck, it's been a total clusterfuck of random ass readings and even semantically it often feels completely unrelated to words with same kanji I've learned before.

>>41763514
to some extent this is a normal feeling for the beginning but do you even write down the sentence you get the words from?

>>41763514
i don't bother mining everything. anki is for reviewing not learning after all.
it works best on words you already have a vague understanding of but are prone to forgetting the reading or meaning.
if it's some weird random word i probably won't see in another year then i can't be bothered to mine it.

462 cards in me deck

I have spent 4 YEARS every day doing this dumb app. And like a typical ankidrone I am not fluent (due to streches of time at the start where I was just droning or not doing new cards after the core 6k). But I can read my vinnies more or less fine. Gonna spend the day getting drunk and playing light chunnige
Kanpai

>>41763549
Lmao, decklet.

>>41763514
you took the training wheels off

>>41763567
>556 cards per day on average
anon... you arent supposed to anki for 3 hours. you are supposed to anki for 10 minutes and then read for 3 hours. every day.

>>41763523
Nah, I just skip shit that doesn't work as simple [Word/Expression - Definition(s)] card.

I33M345I0N

Felt overwhelmed with my first VN. Since I never played one, I'll play it in English, probably won't be able to enjoy any in JP if I dislike it.

>>41763702
pussy

>>41763702
ngmi

>>41762769
true, I was practicing a lot with subaru but then I took a break from vtubers for a while to listen to youtube essayists and audio from anime episodes etc..
I wanted to listen to some LPs and realized I just didn't want to deal with a high pitched anime girl voice when I'm working and Okayu's Star Fox and Pokemon videos hit the spot perfectly

>>41763702
zoom zoom

that guy isnt gonna make it

>>41763373
i'm less than 6 months in and i have at least 1200 I want to say...going to make it

>>41763702
what if you took it slower bitch

Come on, if I don't like it in English, of course I won't like it in Japanese. Have to test it out.

>>41763759
Yeah, there's that option too.

>>41763770
>you read to enjoy the content
>i read to learn japanese
>we are not the same

>>41763786
>implying you don't enjoy the process of learning japanese

think of a random common english word and then see if you know the japanese equivalent
good way to determine how shit you are です

>>41763856
or just see if you can write any random thought in japanese

could somebody help me with this second bubble?
>why is it やる気の instead of やる気が?
>in うちでもいいか is it うち　でもいいか or うちで　もいいか or perhaps neither?

>>41763866
it just be like that.
sometimes you swap the no in for ga.
just gotta feel it out.

if you try to google you will get some impossibly complicated linguistic explanation about subject and god knows what else.
none of it matters just feel.

Oh yeah this looks extra comfy.

>>41763337
it's dasu

>>41763866
no can be used in place of ga in some scenarios, same meaning
uchi demo ii ka

>>41763866
why is the scan so shit

>>41763880
>>41763914
thanks bros
very much appreciated
>>41763923
idk it's just what i got from dl-raw, it's still readable and i was very eager to dig into it so i didn't bother finding a better one

>i was very eager to eat shit

can i say i read a vinnie if i completed one of the main routes

>indicates
>indicates
>indicates

>>41764009
nope

>>41764009
only if it doesn't have a true end

>>41764035
i don't care about the other routes though and it's mostly the same story repeated

>>41764041
oh fuck i just checked and there's a special ending you unlock when you complete all the other routes

I hate being a beginner.
>see a post in japanese
>try to read it
>all are unknown kanji and kana that forms words you never saw before
>you don't know which are adverbs and words written in kana alone and which are endings for verbs
I am ngmi. No irony there.

>>41764064
this takes like a month to get over so if you cant even study for 1 month you are ngmi indeed

>>41764009
if you don't want to read it anymore and will never go back to it, it is complete in my book.
>>41764064
GMI

>>41764077
I've been studying everyday for couple of hours. According to the grammar guide I am at level of a 5 years old. But with no practice and terrible vocab.

>>41764064
you can ask if you're really lost

>>41764095
fool is that not proof that YOU WILL MAKE IT?
how long did it take you to be at the level of a 5 year old in your native language? 5 years? 4 years? 6?
but in japanese you got there from studying every day for a couple of hours and consuming some stuff, in BARELY ANY TIME AT ALL
>but i want to be at the level of a fluid university doctoral student anon!
that takes nips TWENTY YEARS PLUS of FULL immersion
it will take you maybe 1 fourth of that if you apply yourself
>but i want to read everything and know every kanji and never make mistakes!
nips cant even do that

>only one route really interests me
>have to play all the other routes first for it to even make sense

>>41764098
Ok.

In this sentence: 愛はひとの心を砕くこともできるのさ。What does that ことも and のさ at the end doing there? The koto is supposed to be a particle (with whole bunch of meanings, fuck me) but, it is followed by mo, so it's a new topic. Why are we changing topic to a particle?

>>41764163
if this is not bait you have to stop doing this to yourself anon, you are trying to make japanese make sense in english and that is impossible.
what do you think the author/character/whomever is trying to say?

this 黒んぼ needs cure dolly

>>41764163
>さ
https://japanese.stackexchange.com/questions/1895/ending-a-sentence-with-%E3%81%95
>ことも
https://japanese.stackexchange.com/questions/41955/combination-of-verb-%E3%81%93%E3%81%A8%E3%82%82

今にパーティー！

>>41764163
>砕くこと も できる の さ
koto nominalizes
mo as in also

>>41764177
Find a girl who loves you even half as much as Cure Dolly hates textbooks.

>>41764221
done that

>>41764163
のさ you can just ignore for now, you just need to feel it out.
愛は is the topic so that's the thing we're describing, so let's leave that aside for now.
人の心 is combined into one concept: Human hearts.
砕くこと turns 砕く into a noun. Think of "to kick" turning into "a kick".
I lied in my last sentence, it's not actually just 砕く that turns into a noun, it's the verb-phrase 人の心を砕く that turns into a noun-phrase.
も just means also.
出来る means being able to.
So we have:
愛は something も出来る, in other words "love can also do something".
Something is a noun so we can replace it with any noun-phrase and it will be grammatically correct. In this case our noun-phrase is 人の心を砕く which means crushing people's hearts.
"Love can also crush people's hearts".
Thank you for coming to my TEDx talk. If you have any questions read Tae Kim again.

that guy won, bigly

>>41764175
It's supposed to mean Love can break person's heart. But I didn't figure it out, translator did. I definitely wouldn't know by myself.

What exactly am I doing to myself? How do I make Japanese make sense in Japanese when I don¨t know Japanese?
>>41764195
Thanks.

>>41764245
i'm beginning to feel

>>41764245
i am beginning to think i am too retarded for japanese

>>41764245
uwaaaa SSS+++ post unironically
this anon won

>>41764313
probably

>>41764286
see this post? >>41764245 you need to do this, and eventually, you will, for every sentence, at all times (within reason), plus youll do it automatically.
you just need to expose yourself to enough japanese to awaken the ability to think in it, when you do, all of this stuff will just make sense
what you are doing to yourself right now is pausing the process every time you come across something you don't quite get and getting frustrated/overthinking it.
just try reading SIMPLE stuff you like, tadoku, hukumusume, simple manga and try to read it, and just keep going
listening works too, music, podcasts, vbijin, whatever, most important thing is to just keep going.
>but i don't understand absolutely everything!
thats okay you don't have to, all you have to do is "think" about it, actively, try to derive meaning and notice the patterns.
few japanese things do subtle, if the theme is love doing whatever, trust me, you will find out.

>>41762592
i learned the wrong language

>>41764544
her soul is Japanese

big if true

>>41764791
that's probably going to be the route they go down if things go bad for japan

>>41764407
ok nta but how do I analyse these kind of sentences now
everytime a character speak like a yakuza or use too much contractions I just whitenoise it

>>41764886
龍が如くreps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7g4qwNPOxSs

>uses 火の車 to describe their situation
What the fuck is this chunni shit and why is apparently a common phrase

yup, this thing is going to give me fucking depression

上手い
when to read as jouzui, when to read as umai?

>>41765164
read it as jouzui if you wanna be a gaijin court jester to entertain japs

>>41765164
nihongo jouzui

lol

gooooood morning

havent been able to post the last couple days because i flew to japan

wagmi, especially holochads
yooooo look what i found at a lawsons

i wish i was a musician or artist or something, it must feel good to give beauty to the world

>>41761935
Good OP, good breasts.

>>41765350
yoooooo!
you best 子宮姦 all the jks!
have fun!

emmersion
https://hitomi.la/manga/%E4%BA%8C%E6%AC%A1%E5%85%83%E3%83%89%E3%83%AA%E3%83%BC%E3%83%A0%E3%83%9E%E3%82%AC%E3%82%B8%E3%83%B3-vol.115-%E6%97%A5%E6%9C%AC%E8%AA%9E-1956004.html#1

>>41765350
>wagmi, especially holochads
True and correct. Enjoy your trip.

>>41765350
ohayouuuuuuuuu!

>>41765486
ill do my best! thanks!

it's up

https://youtu.be/lap1IzHY7Vo

Wanna know what they put in the ice cubes here in japan because they take forever to melt.

>>41765575
pausing my immersion for this

probably water

あんまりよのなかがくらいと

進撃の巨人のアニメがのびるよー

現実が平和だから

明るいからにしてみたいものなんだから

まぢのせんそうが近そうなときに

戦争ものを好んでみたいひとおらんでしょうが

>>41761935
>#3420
The links contained within are dead ends.

oh no

If you wanna learn to create you first need to see the beauty of things

indeed *unzips*

i wanna man

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8YUX7mqj_o

>let's thinking

今日の曲
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mju9MqcHwTU

katiche

Attach your mind everybody!

What do I do if card says 止める but i say 止める? They all translate as "to stop". I can't tell the difference.

>>41766295
やめると

とめるでは

だいぶいみがちがう

ネイティブならほとんどどういけんだとおもう

>>41766325
I can't process what are you trying to say.

>>41766295
read the context line and figure out which is which
>hmm oh this is the train station stopping
etc etc

進撃みてた

にほんごでつかってるのはじめてみた

「許さないでくれ」

なんだったらゆるしてくれもつかったことないけど

ゆるさないでくれって

すごくライナーだとおもう

>>41766295
>What do I do if card says 止める but i say 止める?
... good job anon you got it right!

>>41766295
sentence cards

https://twitter.com/yantyajyosi_/status/1592010312408240128

家で好きなオヤコドンゲー楽しめるのになんでクラスに行くの？

>>41766460
The sentences I have on cards are crap. The words doesn't even appear in them. I am 上り and the sentence is saying "This train is going downtown." The translation says going up.

Are sentence cards a separate deck core 2k

i have a really hard time pronouncing the shift from ん to り sound like in
管理 and 遠慮
i just cant say it at a reasonable speed.
and i a fucking retard or is there some sort of mouth trick for saying it you guys have been keeping from me?

is https://tadoku.org/japanese/free-books/ a good way to learn japanese?

>>41766637
the only way to know if which's worth your time is to ascertain: 1) do you enjoy it?, and 2) are you *really* paying attention?
that said, i just checked this website and it's kinda bad that the picture text couldn't be scanned. I'd hate to switch back and fourth to jisho all the damn time

>card
>translation
>sentence
>sentence translation uses completely different word
This shit is impossible.

>>41766678
translation isn't 1:1
a direct translation is not always correct for every sentence. this is why machine translation can never actually take over (unless it can learn to not always directly translate, which is out of reach to say the least.)
for example, if the police pop out and say 動くない !
"Freeze!" would be an acceptable translation for that specific scene. of course, that translation will never appear in a dictionary.
again, this is why translation is a real job, and people don't just sit on jisho for every word.

>>41766716
>if the police pop out and say 動くない !
lmfao

>掌
>手の平
???
I don't understand this language

the police pop out and say "namesimasu? namesimasu?" but even after replacing their commas with periods and line breaks they are unable to blend in with the natives. sad!

>>41766748
あのん

おもしろいところにめをつけたね

拳をまるめるとなくなるのが掌で

拳をまるめてもなくならないのが手の平？

>police pops out
>"majiru?"

fuck the police nigga

kachite ni ugokanai

>police are unable to blend in with the natives
as is life in bongistan

bruh

>>41766716
Ok, I guess, that's how things work. But I cannot do it, I can't process Japanese this way. I ask a question here, people answer in japanese, and there is something like a veil covering everything they say so even when cheating with yomichan I can only wildly guess wjat they are saying. I was looking at the 人の心 and I just don't feel it as human hearts. I only see man の heart. Heart of man? Man heart? I just cannot process it into a coherent language myself. I don't know why is it so difficult so for me. I wasn't born with automatic processing ability.

>>41766815
nta but what is your native tounge? i won't judge

>>41766815
no, you aren't braindead, because to understand English at a fluent level you're doing the same thing, you're translating English words into sentences.
it just hasn't clicked for you.
>I only see man の heart. Heart of man? Man heart?
however this is worrying and i suggest you see a doctor.

15
phone posters are ngmi

>>41766821
Czech.

>>41766826
yup especially まれん super ngmi

>>41766815
>I wasn't born with automatic processing ability.
nobody was, it takes time to get good you either invest the time or you don't simple as

>>41766815
normal problem with early stages of every language
頑張れ

do what you did to learn english to japanese
it's the same thing but harder because english is a pig language bastardization

best japanese show meant for babies/toddlers that only have female hosts?

>2 separate neighbors on the same floor drilling their walls for hours on end since 7 am
throbbing headache bros, god i wish i lived in a house

just play more vinnies bro that will get you a house

drillet

Fluency is a near impossible goal for adult learners

>>41766973
as long as you keep an open mind about things, it's possible
the brain is all chemical afterall

>>41766973
agreed but because of the time investment required not cause the language is impossible or w/e

whenever I try reading something new I get filtered by the new font
everything can look so different

i hate how 99% of old manga raw scans on the internet is like low quality newspaper thats not even fit for wiping your arse
reading cleaned and redraw manga really spoiled me
im gonna give a try ai upscaling this shit to see if it looks any better

>>41767051
buy it faggot

>>41767051
topazai’s decent, you need to pirate it tho

>>41767066
i know, im pirating the latest update right now
>>41767058
it's like 15 bucks per volume, lad. im not elon musk

>>41766678
You're learning the meaning, not translation.
Word translation on the card shows approximate general meaning.
Sentence translation shows it in specific context that helps to distinguish it from other words that have same general meaning.

I just went through like 8 different words with 上　 and 下 anki. Tomorrow I will have to do it again. Sob. I don't remember which is which.

lol

Bros?

>suru verb
what a dumbass name
a few heads need rolling at the jmdict hq

first we're gonna 石
then we gonna 転

kanjiverse bros. We won this time!

https://twitter.com/kanjiverse/status/1588828499036487680

徹夜して i can't find anywhere what the して means. it's not conjugation of suru, because that's した.

was the newest ep of fumetsu no anata e as aids as the last one?

>spend 10 minutes trying to identify kanji
>the word was actually in katakana

気づく
築く

>>41766945
put on headphones with white noise and i mean actual white noise it should make it bearable

>>41767066
>>41767069
where can i find the pirated version

Only took 3 hours (including shitposting breaks) to get through 6th chapter of Dragon Ball. Understood fuck tons of text this time although previous chapter was mostly unintelligible because of all the old villager cunts dialogue. At such rate of MAKING IT I might be able to devour two chapters a day by the end of upcoming week.

>>41766846
>english is a pig language bastardization
so is japanese

>3 hours for 1 chapter
jesus christ, i had to have been this shit at one point as well but my mind has erased that experience

jesus says n6

it takes me 3 hours to get through a volume

>>41767975
Please stop skipping pictures.

the longest its taken me in recent memory is like 2 hours for a volume of hxh, most manga volumes i can get through in 45-60 minutes

>>41767916
keep it up dude you're gmi

any new garbage days? been outta the loop

>>41767697
i got mine through cgpeers because i’m a pt faggot and believe the placebo that it’s safe if it’s there

>>41768142
thread took a different turn, no fun allowed
even posting pictures of people featured in garbage day gets you a ban now

>>41761935
>Ignore Tatsumoto
Tatsumoto is unironically the best Japanese language guide out there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AO_UNZ13_6E

>>41767697
i got mine from mobilism

>>41768210
rip
so wtf do we do itt now?

>>41768235
the few holosharts incessantly spam constantly

>>41767975
Why? Do you have some disability?

>>41766637
no, you should stick to native content. content for gaijin is dumbed down and is not like real japanese. read tatsumoto's guide.

I don't feel like reading linnies today...
I think I'll just chill with a manga.

>>41762003
>>41762033
>>41762055
Anyone checked out this place?

https://matrix.to/#/#djtspace:g33k.se

>>41768186
>>41768220
thanks

Drinking game suggestion, watch Cure Dolly and every time she talks about textbooks being shit, take a shot.

Damn, thread so active that phishing bots are targeting it.

that’s our home grown bot, nothing new

>>41768624
>watch Cure Dolly
i don't want to get crippled. plus i already know japanese (read all about particles)

>>41768492
it's pretty good

>>41768241
damn guess its all over then this place was fun as fuck

>>41768624
every time she says sakura take a drink

how do I learn japanese

>>41768624
>>41768656
fuck dolly.
i started browsing /djt/ in 2020 and kept going for a year with anki + dolly + vns.
becamse crippled after watching all her videos, this was in 2021
took me a year to uncripple myself and now im finally starting to learn everything from scratch again

>>41768686
just bee urself

>>41768686
this

>>41768686
Make sure you read all of the posts in this thread that shit on resources without specifying why those resources are bad or suggesting alternatives.

>>41768706
I get the strong impression that you never actually tried to learn Japanese if you're two years down the line and had to start again from scratch. Did you accidentally learn Vietnamese in those two years or something?

>>41768706
the issue isnt with the dollman (rip). the issue is that you're an idiot.

>>41768754
>>41768781
you retards dont understand my suffering because you have never crippled yourself with dollys shitty advice
i had to unlearn japanese to start learning it again, this time the right away

コンドーム腰蓑

>公 = public
>園 = garden
>公園 = park

Sometimes JP do be easy like that.

>>41768788
lets hear some concrete examples of how you got crippled

>>41768716
wrong version

>>41768788
You still haven't even attempted to explain why you think Dolly is bad. No, saying "she crippled me" isn't explaining, it's complaining.

people here never learn japanees because the OP is full of spam.

>>41761935
A sound file I think is either missing or not found in my anki deck, how do I replace that sound file? I also have a website someone mentioned before with phrases spoken by natives, might replace it with that.

>>41768813
he said hello pretty people to a pack of gymbros and got crippled

>>41768805
>>41768813
the grammar explanations are a complete joke. im not saying that any competitors are perfectly correct either because they rely on english to describe japanese, but dolly is on a different level.
in order to understand grammar you have to understand it in japanese. When a guide uses english building blocks to make a model that resembles the japanese grammar, there's a limit on how accurate the explanations can be.
also shes fucking is creepy.
i kept remembering her creepy ass face whenever reading vns and that ruined the experience for me
it got to the point i started having auditory hallucinations with her voice

>>41763673
SOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURCE-ASU!!!!
頼む :-)

>>41768855
i suppose you want this "sauce" soon?
preferably "nao"?

>>41768844
>When a guide uses english building blocks to make a model that resembles the japanese grammar
I don't understand your point at all here, you really are just complaining for the sake of it.

i wish i was a gyaruoh in japan nanpaing all single mom bbas in the tokyou

>>41768893
AAAAAAAAAH fucking delete this
i have PTSD

>>41768909
バスで公園に行く

Look at this perfectly fine Japanese sentence anon! How dare she!

the real issue with dolly is that the tuber persona is creepy, her voice is fucking creepy and learning with videos is as enjoyable as having diarrhea at work

it's over...

getting paid to shit is great

>>41761935
Facts about moeway/animecards and his guide:

>His “guide is actually just a money grab
>He posts on 4chan every day begging for donations and advertising his scam
>He doesn’t even know Japanese unlike the creator of the official djt guide Tatsumoto

Beginners, be sure to use only the official djt guide by Tatsumoto if you want to make it!

cure dolly is 萌え

>>41768808
this is the correct version

Reminder to install rikaikun on Chrome.

google translate tool only or go home

>>41768844
>because they rely on english to describe japanese
we know it's you tatsumoto, fuck off

>>41769060
Cure Dolly has three major problems. It's a patreon scam. You have to keep paying for her poop. Then, it is simply incorrect. After watching it you will make false assumptions about Japanese. It makes Japanese look harder than it is. Second, it is difficult to watch because it is made by a TTS schizo. Third, it is long. You're better off reading a written guide. Tatsumoto's guide says to use All About Particles.

>>41768706
yep should have started using TSCs from the start

>>41766748
what don't you get

fuck jazz, lying faggot

>>41768827
download ankidrone starter pack.

Whats a reliable source for listening practice with Japanese subtitles?

>>41768797
thank the chinese

>>41769147
youtube 切り抜きs

>>41768844
holy based

>>41769052
https://tatsumoto.neocities.org/blog/how-to-review.html#fighting-backlogs

>>41768878
頼むうううううう！

>>41769144
why? pretty sure 2.3k is just fine. I just want to replace one file. And i'm not paying anyone's patreon! Learning Japanese should be the same as Japanese manko, FREE!
ただ！

>>41769376
All "Core" Anki decks are based on newspapers from early 90s and sometimes additionally sorted in a way that makes learning harder. The format of the cards also tends to be WCC instead of a more efficient TSC. Ankidrone Starter Pack is made from a COMPLETELY different corpus ー everyday words used commonly in Japan. You should use Ankidrone Starter Pack.

>>41769376
read the op

https://youtu.be/AbBkokPtYiM

>>41769383
>Ankidrone Starter Pack is made from a COMPLETELY different corpus ー everyday words used commonly in Japan.
and how was this determined? genuinely curious, not trying to cause a shit storm unlike some people. i appreciate everyone here who encourages and helps other learners
>>41769415
>read the op
BOOBA
>"I know Japanese Manko-fu"
>"Show me"
>re-creates Jimmu dynasty...

>>41769527
look at the streamable link in the op

>これから金収入を増やす方法を説明いたします
What would the reading for 金 be in a historical strategy game (romance of the three kingdoms)? My guess is they are talking about gold (きん) specifically.

>>41769527
lol retard

>>41761935
WHY DOES NO ONE HERE GIVE STRAIGHT ANSWERS!! Stop trying to be smart to just respond somewhat maturely.
>>41769548
is THAT person suggesting the ankidrone pack or what? why am I listening to some dweeb laugh with eminem background music?

>>41769376
Learning Japanese is free, but nobody is obligated to provide you with resources.

>>41769596
it's him yes

>>41769527
>and how was this determined?
the people who made tango books determined it.

>>41769548
kys, mehmet. no one falls for your scams.

>>41761935
>>41761995
This moeway guy doesn't know English or Japanese. He's an ESL who spends all day spamming his poorly written "guide" on 4chan so that people give him money on Patreon. Pretty pathetic.
If you want to learn Japanese, follow people who actually know jack shit when it comes to learning a foreign language. Tatsumoto's guide to Japanese is among them.

>>41769605
>nobody is obligated to provide you with resources
this is true, but why else is anyone here but for assistance WITH the provided free resources that hopefully no one has paid for or to show off their love for Vchubbers? as mentioned before, I appreciate those who help. this is their only similarity to the T-Jannies

oh he's one of them
yeah go ahead and do the ankidrone pack

How do you guys type ん when the next character is a vowel? I usually do nn, but I've heard some say that n' or xn is better because it leads to less finger stress.

always with a hard nn

昨日放課後誰もいない教室で二人がキスしてるところに
I don't really understand what the ところ does in these phrases, it's a nominalizer, right? But what does it mean?

>>41769942
what do you think the sentence means with and without it

>>41770182
when? So it's like 時に?

>>41769776
sonnnani muzukashikunai yo

I need to understand という better. I feel like it's used to mean nothing and anything. Any good resources?

>>41770242
I feel like という is one of the easier pieces of grammar to understand "holistically".
Maybe I'm just not thinking of it, but I feel like it always has the same fundamental meaning.

really amazing how basically anything can get you banned in this thread nowadays but tatsucunt cant spam and shill for hours on end with none of his posts being deleted

MS UI Gothic is the font for me.
What font do you guys use to read novels?

>>41770280
Romaji expressed through the medium of wingdings.

>>41770277
don't break the rules, retard.
>>41769662
true true

>>41770280
i use noto fonts because i'm not a microcuck.
https://www.fsf.org/windows/

>>41770277
kek tatsucuck is laughing at you get rekt lmfao

>>41770277
Maybe you should try telling the maids about his spam if you want to see it gone.
>>41770348
Also this. Retard.

the n6 guidewarfags are back at it... how about you immerse instead?

>>41770348
>>41770379
>>41770389
tatsuhemorrhoid triggered

>>41770390
there's no research showing immersion have any language acquisition benefits

この境遇に甘んじている俺は、むしろありがたがられる存在ではないのか
I find it hard to understand this phrase.
I think I get the gist, but wtf is ありがたがられる
I understand it's some conjunction/derivation of arigataou as a verb, but I can't wrap my head around what

>>41770406
shouldnt i be someone who others should be thankful to

>>41770399
t. r/learnjapanese user

>>41770423
a supportive evidence-based community member? yes, I am

Even reddit isn't dumb enough to not know that immersion is the ultimate equalizer, the key to language learning.
Then again I haven't visited it for a while, did they just get worse or something?

>>41770440
immersion only works on babies when the critical period is still ongoing

もうきづいたか
このよには正義なんてものは存在しない

>>41770440
reddit thinks genki is the key to language learning and immersion is something you're allowed to do as a reward after studying grammar for five hours

>>41770427
this is you, isn't it?

>>41770440
see pic

yoooooo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gm7i9-r-hGs

>>41770467
That comment is right tho, you have to invest hundreds of hours a year into studying; he is just too stupid to realize that immersion doesn't mean mindlessly watching anime you don't understand, and is in fact for the most part hard work, plus anki.

>>41770480
This one sounds abit high on his own farts. He reeeeeaaly doesn't want to be told that he wasted most of his time/money, and that he's a chump, so he convinced himself of this fantasy that his way was the only royal road to japanese.
Also feels good to effortlessly read his declaration in JP that you can't learn japanese without studying, while never having formally studied japanese.

can I really learn japanese just by watching anime in japanese?

>>41770515
yes but you have to look shit up and try to understand what's going on

>>41770519
like pause every sentence and look up every word I don't know?

>>41770525
yea

>>41770534
okay I don't want to do that then

>>41770525
Not necessarily every word, but yeah kinda.
If you have to look up too many words you're watching an anime that's way above your level, which is kinda pointless.
Start with manga at your level.

>>41770515
yes. see >>41768716

wtf kitsunekko was online for like 4 minutes and now it's gone again ):

>>41770525
for example, though that's probably not a lot of fun, so pick a few shows where you do that and then a few shows where you don't pause every sentence and try to enjoy yourself
yomichan makes lookups very easy btw

>>41763702
It literally took me 2 months to finish my first VN in japanese, and it was some slice of life stuff that was really short, perseverance, anon.

>>41770679
My first VN I played it for a few weeks, I got basically to the end of the common route and then I just got bored with it.
Granted the common route was very long so I got quite a bit of reading out of it, I haven't really tried to read a full VN ever since, I just open a JP nukige once in a while to work with my fantasy you know.
Moved on mostly to manga for when I want to chill, and light novels for when I really want to IMMERSE and read.

Jesus Christ, why are VNs so overly descriptive and circular?
>She said 1+1 = 2. Tashikani, 1+1 equals 2, but why would she say that? Did she think I'm dumb? Or maybe she did that to see if I was paying attention... Hmm... I can't tell. Maybe she's retarded or have weird tourettes? That'd be funny
>But sure, 1+1 = 2, that's a known fact. Is there anything behind it, then? Am I overthinking? Mattaku, I'm lost, maybe I should just leave at that.
>Thiking of it, 1+1 was always 2, right? Who invented those numbers anyway? I guess it were with different symbols in ancient Egypt or something. Well, I'm glad they created it, it sure is helpful to this day. Still, why would she say that? I gotta ask, maybe there's something behind it...
>ask it
>don't ask it
For fuck's sake.

>>41770701
filtered, the post

>>41770701
filtered

>>41770714
>>41770721
I'm playing in English.

>>41770701
it's just bad writing. amateurs love droning on and on with their characters. it's worse in vns because they need to pad the time to justify the price

>>41770701
play better vns!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBUuVwKyB_Y

>>41770722
well then how about you post in the vn eop thread

>>41770701
I find it kinda disagreeable when every sentence is just an adjective to the character that is doing what's described in the phrase and the character's name is at the end.
>The is walking carefully shizuki.
>The carefully walking girl that is stealing glances at me as she walks by my side shizuki.
And it goes on and on every other sentence, so painfully descriptive.
I just got done with that WN, kinda got used it at least...

>>41770722
Uhhh anon this is a japanese language general...

>>41770722
loooool

>>41770732
>>41770742
Well, the thread just happened to be open, and I saw a comment about VNs. Still, it's funny how you say "filtered" as an excuse for retarded writing. Do you bear this for the sake of learning the language or unironically think that shit's good?

>>41770781
lol cope and seethe

>>41770453
都合のいい人工概念に過ぎぬ戯言だ
この世を司る摂理は少なくとも人間社会でよく蔓延る偽善に基づいていないだけで助かる

>>41770722
what are you even doing man

>>41770781
If you can't realize different countries and specially different cultures may have different ways of looking at something then i will have to call you an american.
But hey, be sure to stay away from that trash instead of trying to changing to fit your tastes.

listening is so much harder than reading. it doesn't seem possible

>>41770781
It's considerably worse in jp, because vn authors seem to like using obscure kanji versions of words for no reason

>>41770820
Oh, fuck off, you amoral relativizing piece of thrash. Good literature is good literature no matter the language, I've read good Japanese authors.
In my country, there's the view that it is acceptable to throw faggots like you off of skyscrapers.

is japanesepod101 good
their videos show up all the time for me on youtube but it seems too well produced and that turns me off

>holosharts are now even on japanese radio
それ が 机 を 叩きたい だ！

>>41770855
https://tatsumoto.neocities.org/blog/foreword.html#dont-waste-time

>>41770695
You should pick stuff more careful then, there are a bunch of short vns that could be a good start depending on your tastes. As for nukige there are stuff like the honoo games where the story is basically nonexistent and you get a bunch of variety basically at the start.
I don't read manga neither light novels so i can't give you my opinion there, what i do is read r18 doujinshi since they are pretty short and half of the sex scenes are basically the same vocabulary.

>>41770854
lmao

>>41770854
salam jazzy

I'm looking for a tablet for reading manga and LN, and I realize every company but apple is actually retarded
>they are all the same wide 16/10 aspect ratio
>apple is the only one with a pretty close paper sheet aspect ratio
Why is apple winning the tablet market??

>>41770854
>I've read good Japanese authors.
no you haven't
you've read fanfic versions of their works written by a third party in a different language

>>41770854
You can do whatever you want as long you don't touch japan.

>>41770881
The honoo serie is one of those nukige I play, together with the role player game and the stuff by atelier kaguya, depending on my mood.
R18 doujins I only download in jp now, slowly amassing a small manga raw library.

潜る
kuguru vs moguru
how the fuck do I know which is which?

>>41770916
if ur going thru a hole or tobira its kuguru
everything else moguru

>>41770890
apple lacks yomichan and you need to jump through hoops to ocr manga, anime mining is also never happening

>採掘
農夫かおまえw

>>41770890
I got a tab s6 lite (2022) and it's pretty fantastic for it.
Install jidoujisho if you want to easily read and mine epubs, or even watch and mine from anime.
Tachiyomi for reading manga and doujins.
Also anki is free on android.
Also also I don't know why you care about the aspect ratio that much, there's almost no black bars already, and on a 10' screen it's already plenty big enough.
Unless you're already a brainslaved Tim Apple stool, there's literally never a reason to buy an apple product.

>>41770916
もぐる is written 潜る
くぐる is usually written くぐる
is you see 潜る read it as もぐる

>>41770821
I was in your position
Recently my listening ability has exploded, I'm able to listen to fresh content without context/subtitles and understand raw much more suddenly in the past week. You just gotta keep listening, your brain will figure out for you
I noticed that I improved a lot after listening to anime series I'd already seen. I listened to acouple series I watched recently with japanese subtitles, and then I listened to HxH 99 (which I'd watched multiple times years ago with english subs. I've read the manga and seen both series multiple times, so I know what happens very well but never in japanese before)
I found that after listening to a couple "fresh" series that I'd just watched with JP subs, which helped me hear the worsd I knew were there from fresh experience, plust listening to a series whose words I didn't know at all but whose story I knew exactly, my listening ability really exploded. now i'm listening to youtube essays and vtubers etc. and now isntead of noise/syllables with words/phrases standing out, I hear everything, *including the unknown words*
Now I can even acquire new vocab thorugh raw listening, which I thought was impossible before..

Hope that helps anon, my experience lately ahs been very rewarding

>>41770967
>>41770921
These 2 words are the godforsaken reason why I'm always double guessing myself when I see that kanji.

>>41770916
堪える
堪える
堪える

>>41770701
Just do it this way, I find it quite enjoyable:
>skip all dialogue that isn't speach (mainly the narrator saying useless things or the MC being circular)
>hold ctrl in the sex scenes (if they are not animated)
You may refrain from the first option in the prologue.

>>41770981
you'll acquire もぐりこむ soon enough

>>41770993
all 3 mean the same thing

>>41770967
>is you see 潜る read it as もぐる
that does not work lol i bet you've read it incorrectly countless times

>>41771011
He already has it...

>>41771031
having a word in anki != having acquired the word

>>41771040
true, Takanashi Kiara never used anki
https://streamable.com/l0k9q4

>>41771105
she used cocks instead

>>41771105
yooo its the bird of hope!
bros shes based!

>>41771115
yeah mine
>>41771118
she really is

anya used anki though

>>41771115
lmao

>>41770967
now do 退く

>>41771160
can be ひく どく or しりぞく based on context

>>41771142
if i remove her mask would she die?

>>41770890
probably a troll post but if you're actually so retarded read this https://www.gnu.org/proprietary/malware-apple.html

>>41771142
based steampunk loli
>>41771178
it would be extremely quiet

>>41771160
it's mostly どく but if you feel like the speaker want to sound smart you read as しりぞく

これが「ザ・ワールド」だ

>>41771219
lol nice self-own

>>41771219
that's not how it works
しりぞく is something you'd actively do to someone
ひく and どく is something someone would do themselves
they are used entirely differently
further, どく is merely "stepping aside" while ひく has a nuance of retreating entirely

as for me のく

慄く

>>41771272
good post thanks

stふ

ononoku, mined from summer pockets

>>41771272
you could of took a second to google this shit and realize you're wrong

imagine remembering where you first saw it cause you're a noob who's barely run into it

wananaku, mined from tsuushinbo

fail

>>41771272
what, isn't しりぞく almost synonymous with 引退する？at least the one context I remember it from in Prince of Tennis seemed pretty self-moving to me..

>>41771353
>self-moving
oh no no no

>>41771358
動詞
自動詞
？

>when the manko self moves on you

self move and other move and instant dkn self owns

>>41771374
nenechi...

>>41771372
don't mind the troll, hes mentally ill and wants attention, just ignore the retard

really shows you the level of this place when they are still arguing about what baby words mean

>>41771418
talking about yourself? haven't you acquired 自己投影?

>>41771418
yep called it

need kani to motivate
help me out kanibros...

>>41771429
youre supposed to ignore him bro look hes even telling you to

>>41771433
https://nhentai.net/g/189762/

>>41771453
>>41771433
finally good posts post immersion!

>>41771432
called what? >>41771429 was my first reply on the topic. i wonder what kind of mental illness makes someone try to connect the dots between anonymous posts like pepe silvia. hope you have a good time doing it at least.

>>41771462
>>41771433
yooooo was reading this enjoy
https://nhentai.net/g/420944/

>>41771462
>>41771433
https://oreno-erohon.com/viva
site of all time

>>41771473
picked up
>>41771481
uwaaa uuuooosugi...

>>41771481
>お勧めキーワード
>no 蟹
not my erohon

>>41771282
>慄く
mined ;)

>>41771510
bro the front page is full of 蟹, look again

>>41771510
try ロリ

God damn, Dolly's explanations of how verbs change based on tense and some particle shit has helped me so much. Now when I look at the sentences in Anki I can actually make sense of them.

>>41771547
Just don't pay attention to anything cure dolly says. It's a patreon scam. Her teachings make Japanese look even more confusing. I recommend Tatsumoto's guide to Japanese.

gotta admit ever since that anon dropped his filter my djt experience has improved dramatically