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Fate/stay night: Realta Nua

Her favorite game.

>>4163273
On a gaming console.

GAMING!

Cirno Racing

famicom

2hu

Umineko Weatherbreak.

>>4163273
Super Ushiromiya Brothers.

looking at her face I can tell she just got killed by a care package faggot in mw2

>>4163316
rudolph jumps higher.

>>4163327
Yeah because Krauss is already in space inside his moon resort he does not need to jump at all :D

>>4163334
>:D
D:<

>>4163285
No, this game!

>>4163334

>>4163318
I think you mean OMA/Danger Close/M203.

>>4163273
Well, as you know, Beatrice is actually Jessica.
She's playing Super Mario Brothers, the game denied to her by her father, the denial which made her for the persona of the Golden Witch.

White PS2 controller.
I'm guessing...
Street fighter alpha 3.

She's playing as Cammy.

>>4163273
She is playing that Rosa goat-blasting, stake-raping game.

Battler's sin was buying a PS3.

>>4163403
But how could he do such a thing? I mean, PS3 HAS NO GAMES

Battler's sin was causing Rosa to get pregnant.
Rosa = Beatrice, Maria is obsessed with magic due to that reason.

>>4163416
So BattlerxRosa is canon?

>>4163427
Sure, why not?
More of an awesome sin than forgetting to marry a meido or his cousin, at any rate.

>>4163436
Well, it WOULD explain why Maria has red hair....

>>4163442
Isn't she 9 though? Unless Rosa is lying.

>>4163465
Meh, remember, we're assuming that Rosa is Beatrice, so she is easily lying, yeah.

>>4163442
...and why she acts like an inbred retard.

Not that those genes weren't screwed up in the first place, what with Kinzo and his 12 toes.

Ok, so so far for Beatrice we have:

Dead Servant-Chan
DID Meido-Chan
Hot Cousin=Chan
MILF-Aunt Chan

>>4163482
>chan

faggot

>>4163482

And still, nobody has told me what "DID" means.

>>4163499
Dissociative Identity Disorder

>>4163482
I vote for the 4th one. Having the event that starts off everything be Shota raep would be awesome.

>>4163499
In a nutshell, multiple-personas. Basically, Shannon = Kanon = Beatrice, but we like looking up disorders on wikipedia to seem smart.

>>4163416
no it was kyrie that he knocked up.
see he fucked his mother. that explains why ange is a retard too.

>>4163503
>>4163506

Is "MPD" out of style or something

>>4163514
As a matter of fact, yes.

>>4163482
Don't forget. Beato could just be Battler's imaginary friend that he outgrew 6 years ago and is having a relapse of because he came back to the island.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dissociative_identity_disorder
> auditory hallucinations of the personalities inside their mind
Oh shi—

>>4163529
Not with the knowledge we have now.

...Beatrice.
Listen carefully.
I will turn over my love for Battler to you.
Become the woman Battler desires.

I will give you the blonde hair he desires.
I will give you the blue eyes he desires.
I will give you the new personality he desires.
And... In place of me, love him.
And if possible, be loved by him.

I can no longer love him.
The feelings I could not obtain...the feelings I could not bear...please obtain them.

From this day forward, you are no longer the phantom of Rokkenjima who only plays tricks.
From this day forward, you are the ruler of Rokkenjima, and the one who waits for him to return until he fulfills his promise.

From this day forward, you will inherit that in my place.
Thus, from this day forward, you are no longer me.

I will push all of my suffering on to you... Please forgive me for being the only one to become happy.

From this day forward, you have the qualifications to detest everything.
You are the Golden Witch, Beatrice.

And someday.
Destroy everything, revive everything.
...Bless all lovers.

At that time.
...For both you and I to find happiness together...I will be wishing for from the bottom of my heart.

From this day on, you are not me.
From this day on, I am not you.
We will divide one soul, and share.
That naturally won't fill up one soul, but. (? not 100% sure about this line)
Surely it will allow (us/you/me? no subject defined) to see more dreams than a person.
May we be blessed...
My cute Beatrice...

>>4163538
So EVA really was a second personality of Eva?

>>4163538
Yes, auditory.
Meaning you have an "inner voice" you can't explain.
Not meaning that you imagine talking with someone.
Retard.

Oh, hey guys, you keep on talking about Beatrice and stuff. I'll just be over here, doing whatever.

>>4163547
Yeah, I know about that. Just thought that it would be hillarious considering that Battler DID make 2 Beatos in EP6.

>>4163551
What are you, Einstein or something?

>>4163563
Fantasy scenes, man. FANTASY scenes. They don't show the exact truth.

And is there anything that says you can't interact with your own hallucinations?

>>4163566
Oh hi there, Moon-chan.

>>4163576
How the hell did you beat Kyrie again?

>>4163572
In the case of DID, yes.
You don't know of your other personalities, whenever they "take over" you don't remember a thing.

>>4163582
Well, Kyrie beats her half the time. Like, in episode 3 Kyrie royally messes up her shit.

>>4163593
> You don't know of your other personalities
Not immediately, but why do you think it would be impossible for the personalities to find ways of communicating with each other?

>>4163538
>>4163551
>>4163593
>>4163605
I, for one, am partial to the Magical DID theory, because it fits in with the theme that Ryukishi07 has going on with regards to magic and all that.

>>4163273

Wait a second... a Playstation controller? In the 80's?
Well, what do you know. Guess witchcraft works.

>>4163596
What about in episode 4? Seems like they were working together in that....

>>4163617
Magical DID?
What are you, retarded?

>>4163398
>She's playing as Cammy.
She has good taste.

>>4163514
People bitched that it wasn't accurate(to be fair, it isn't), so it was changed several years back to DID.

>>4163641
Perhaps, but trolls don't work together for long.

>>4163647
That's just the name for it. If you'd prefer, you could call it the Delusional DID theory. It basically says that the various personalities (Beatrice, Kanon, Shannon) are "summoned"/"created" like the Stakes by Ange and Sakutarou by Maria, with the exception being that they're created within the person who creates them, and assuming that person originally had a slightly different personality, the original personality disappeared or became dormant. In the case of Eva, she "created" the witch within her when she was younger, and kept her original personality.

>>4163605
In the same sense that I can tell you that it is impossible for someone with 2 broken legs to run a marathon.
It's simply that way, you can't invent features to an illness just because you think it might be possible.

At least the other ShKanontricefriends have the decency to say
"It's a work of fiction, written by the master of bullshit himself, wo who cares about real facts"
and I can't argue with that, but I won't believe someone who is trying to tell me that it is a perfectly scientifical explantion.

>>4163688
Seems way too stupid and lengthy to be the answer, in addition to the fact that alternate personas are only brought up once, by Jessica.
I can buy Shannon = Kanon = Beatrice if I must, but I don't buy the fact that they are three seperate personas who are unaware of each other.
Also, Evatrice is just Eva's ambitions and insecurity at work, not a seperate entity.

EVAtrice can simply be a personification of Eva's greed, there is absolutly no reason to explain everything with "DID".

>>4163720
> I can buy Shannon = Kanon = Beatrice if I must, but I don't buy the fact that they are three seperate personas who are unaware of each other.
That's not what >>4163688 says, though. In that theory, the personas can interact with each other just fine, because they're constructs created by the original. An addendum to the theory could be said to be that the reason they're able to coexist like that is because they each acknowledge the existence of the others within the body they share; that mutual acknowledgment is what allows them to exist. When one persona's existence is no longer recognized by the other two and/or by the original, it effectively dies.

(As an aside, the idea of there having been a fourth, original personality is based on the fact that Shannon is indeed stated to act differently than she had in the past.)

>>4163566
Oh hey there, Beato.

>>4163770
EVA is just as much a personification of Eva's greed as Beatrice is a personification of the love for Battler originally held by her creator.

>>4163780
In fact, in Episode 3 Virgilia states that the difference between Beatrice and EVA-Beatrice is that Evatrice is fine remaining as a witch on the gameboard, while Beatrice is not. This implies a similiarity between them, though said similarity does not necessarily exist.

>>4163789
Episode three must be taken with a huge-ass grain of salt, you know. Considering Beato and Virgilla are trollan trollan trollan trollan trollan in it.

>>4163780
Beatrice is a lot harder to explain than EVAtrice.
EVAtrice as the greed (or whatever emotion) that drives Eva mad.
It is heavily implied that Eva is the murderer in ep3 (EVAtrice commits the murders, after all).
Even if she isn't the culprit, she still goes mad before her family dies.

Later Ange discovers that the same emotion that drove Eva mad is also possessing Kasumi.

Something like that.

>>4163821
Dude, Eva is not the main culprit in episode 3, obvious red herring is obvious.
She has dead eyes at the end and shoots Battler because her husband and son had just snuffed it, and she values them the most. Pin it on Kyrie and Moon-chan's shenanigans, don't pin it on the person who is fuckobvious to a fault.

>>4163821
Well, that would explain why Ange sees her in 1998, but as usual we should be cautious when it comes to the things Ryu07 shows us, especially when it's outside the actual gameboard.

>>4163821
Pretty much everything stated in Episode 3 regarding Beatrice, magic, and the game was actually true. It's just that the ending of the Episode made everybody dismiss the things said as trolling, when in fact Beatrice's aim is flat-out stated in the Episode. Really, the entire reason Beatrice had to do what she did at the end of Episode 3 was because Battler was even more incompetent than she thought he was.

>>4163807
The reason Ange perceived the "black witch" as Eva/EVA-Beatrice was because she herself still had some residual hatred towards Eva.

Not to drive this off-topic. But does anyone know what happened to the 5 master keys collected from the servants corpses in Episode 3?

>>4163854
Yeah. But Eva is not the main culprit, she's person who is shown to care the most about her family, and everyone misses out on that because of Evatrice.

>>4163863
I said nothing about Eva being the culprit.

>>4163863
Her family might die in the crossfire, Eva camp vs. Kyrie camp, who knows.
We can't really discard any possibility and pulling a motive out of nowhere is pretty easy.

>>4163887
Just how many camps do we have?
I understand the Kyrie camp, I understand the Jessica camp, but Eva having her own camp?
I doubt it. I could see Hideyoshi being involved, maybe, but Eva I think is just a haughty but well meaning and well intentioned woman caught in a shit situation. I mean, she found all the gold in episode 3, she shouldn't have any problems or motivation to kill. Fuck, Jessica flips a shit about her randomly, making me think that Eva getting the gold caused the SNAFU to be even more messed up.

Basically, I think Eva is good, the episode in which one can point to her being the killer comes out with a blank in terms of motivation, and she most likely was incredibly UNLUCKY, moreso than usual, in finding the gold, as it messed up the usual suspects plans.

>>4163901
Hideyoshi is way to shifty for me, i seriously think "Hideyoshi" is either a nick name or a code name.

>>4163273

saber's wearing a funny outfit

>>4163914
Well, I doubt it's a fake name, but he MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE, NEEDS MONEY RIGHT NOW.

He has a good motive, but I see him as the type to not want to kill people, but rather commit other morally flexible actions to get money.

And then we run in Mrs. Yandere White Haired Shotgun Woman, and Jessi-Lies-About-Fucking-Everything-Ca. Those two I can see murdering the shit out of people, Hideyoshi I can see extorting money.

>>4163935
I know it's trivial but a guy who loves the Sengoku period called "Hideyoshi" i might just be reading into things a bit but i find it a little shifty.
But i'm probaly just getting sidetracked.

>>4163967
You are, you are over-complicating things for no reason.

Umineko is supposed to be completely solvable by episode 4, R07 won't introduce anything that really come from the left field or that wasn't properly foreshadowed.

>>4164008
Yeah, the culprit has to be the culprit based on capacity and circumstance making it possible to murder.