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GOTY ALL YEARS

>>4138579
YES YES YES YES

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3w_SJ3F7q8

>>4138572
>>4138574
do want
>>4138579
do not want

Saki is easily the best girl

>>4138579
KYAPUTEN!!

$299

Ugh this is gonna be the most expensive game I ever bought

>>4138586

GOTY, every year!

>>4138607
Fuck, so tempted.

NOT EROGE

>>4138626

Dat chest.

>>4138579

>jrpg

>>4138572
>なんか．．．あたし、実はこういうの好きかも。
Somehow... I think I actually might like this sort of thing.

>>4138692
>butthurt troll

>>4138696
No, I just like games.

>>4138586
>Males in swimsuits
...

>>4138712

what's the matter

too MANLY for you?

...Well it's an improvement over the chibi sprites......

I almost thought it looked good, but then
>Ar Tonelico

>drillsword
I didn't really like ttgl

>>4138696

He's probably a /v/irgin. Just mad that his shitty WRPGs will never have such deliciousness.

>>4138572
>Somehow... I think, I really like it this way...
HNNNNNNNNG THESE THREE WEEKS ARE GOING TO BE SO FUCKING LONG

Saki is my waifu

>>4138696
>knows it's a troll
>still getting mad

>>4138729
GL didnt have drillswords. Or invented drills.

importan gaems

I can't decide, last time I was going straight for Chroche but this time it's going to be hard to make a choice.
And we still don't know about the third reyvateil, plus there's a good chance they'll surprise us with a fourth one.

>>4138762

Go after the purple hair slut (hint: all girls with purple hair are sluts no exception) because Saki is mine.

>>4138770
No, Saki is MINE

By the way, fellow europefags where did you preorder the game ?

>>4138778

Fuck off kid.

>>4138793
umad?

>>4138804

The world is flat.

>>4138813

M-my Cocona! What are they doing to y-you!?

>>4138809
Why so butthurt?

>>4138813
Oh wow this is actually official art
I'm scared of what it's on the visual artbook this time

>>4138813
DELICIOUS!

>>4138813
swimsuit Mir was "daring" for at2, but how far will at3 go?

I hate beeing poor. Does games 1 and 2 work on ps2 emulators?

>>4138913
yes, quite well actually.

>>4138913

Have you missed the last five or so threads? Of course they do.

>>4138917
Great, to be honest i evoided them due to envy, but i guess i just wasted my time.

Will I need the analog sticks for the first two games? The gamepad I have now has pretty much every button for a playstation except the analog sticks.

>>4138941
By the way, wich one would you recomend?

>>4138947

You shouldn't. If you do, just play it with a keyboard like the rest of us.

>>4138947
Not really. Analog stick and the directional pad don't have separate functions, so both can do the same thing.

>>4138950

Two is better but it's translation is shit and it's glitchy as shit.

>>4138959
I meant wich emulator. Its not like i have anything else to do with my time, i will end up playing both. Thanks anyway.

how much does this cost with the artbook

>>4138969

Would you like me to play it for you while I'm at it?

Use google and you'll quickly see there's only one decent ps2 emulator.

>>4138969

I used pcsx2, the beta one. It had some minor graphic glitch here and there, but they weren't such a big deal.

>>4138951
>>4138955

Okay, cool.

A new AT3 thread already? Awesome.

So whats the best place to buy japanese PS3 games which also ships them to europe?

>>4139527
Jesus Christ that looks retarded (and not in a moe way). Why would you make an animated gif of that?

>>4139527
Just imagine how long it took to animate that.
Just... do it, you know realize how crazy this game is going to be.

>>4139535
>implying that is not moe

eh I'm not digging any of the designs. hope their spheres are entertaining at least

COCONAAAAAAAAA

Too bad IF we get to dive into Cocona we'll only get 7 levels.
Unless Chroche unlocks her cosmosphere for some reason.

>>4138586
Why are there some naked men?

>>4139546
>Imagine it
Sure, now I have.
You don't really know much about 3d animation amiright?

I can't even really tell if you are sarcastic or not, though while some may argue that the choices of the face's textures might have been bad in this animation it still doesn't looked like a randomly rushed one and it certinaly doesn't take time to make such a short animation once the actual model is actually finished.

Anyone know where I can order the Salburg Combo Set A pack?

What does everyone think about them going for 3D?

Personally I'm gonna miss the hi-res 2D sprites. But at least they didn't go for the creepy realistic doll look like Square-Enix does with some of their games.

What does everyone think about them going for 3D?

Personally I'm gonna miss the hi-res 2D sprites. But at least Gust knows their game is supposed to be anime, so they made an effort to emulate it in 3D. Unlike Square-Enix, which try to make it look "realistic" which just comes out ugly and/or creepy (Star Ocean 4 and some other recent games).

>>4139936

>hi-res 2D sprites

??????????????????????????

>>4139957

Uh, I dunno. Sprites that are really big, but look pretty nice and not pixelated? Think any Gust game, also Odin Sphere. There was no other word I could think of, since I believe just plain 2D wouldn't do it justice.

>>4139936
I don't really care.
The date sim part is still 2d and that's the only part I care about.

>>4140010
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>>4139936
I'm a big fan of 2D. Graphically speaking, games like Valkyrie Profile beat the crap out of ugly 3D games like Final Fantasy VII.

Nowadays they can make pretty nice 3D, but from the trailers I've seen, Ar tonelico 3 will have relatively poor 3D.

Too bad.

>>4140048

I think this is their first 3D game. They'll probably do better once when they used to it.

>>4140058
True enough, and with actual 3D on the way, they need all the practice they can get.

At least the motion capture looks nice.

wasn't atelier rorona their first 3D game, so this is their second one? not that it matters that much.

Also where are you people ordering this from? might try to get myself a copy, altough I suck at moonrunes, as I sure as hell won't be waiting for years to get translation.

>>4140165
You're probably better off getting it from play-asia if you're not from EU and some other places.
Otherwise ncsx or yesasia are an option as well.

>>4139527
Saki for genki moe.

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LOL, Saki at the very end...so cute!!!

I'm actually rather liking the 3D. It's not trying to look realistic and it's possibly an attempt to be not too much a departure from the previous games in terms of graphical style. A lot of textures are looking rather painterly instead of just lifting from photos, which is another plus in my book.

Some normal mapping in there wouldn't hurt though.

Oh dear. How long will it take for this to be translated?

>>4140403
I don't think normal/bump mapping would fit an animu looking game.
And even if it did, Gust lacks the knowledge to use them propely, they've been using 2D spirites for like, forever.

>>4140429
Maybe not so much on the characters, but it's not like they have my particularly pronounced; a little depth to the clothes would probably be enough. The environments could benefit from them greatly too.

>>4140429
Maybe not so much on the characters, but it's not like they have to be particularly pronounced; a little depth to the clothes would probably be enough. The environments could benefit from them greatly too.

I have no fucking idea which I will choose. It was a pretty easy choice for me in the other two games.

Er, well, between the main pair anyways. The third loli always comes in and tries to test my integrity.

What's the purple haired girl's name anyways, Finnel or something along those lines?

>>4140428

Probably a year or two.

aww man, and I swore I wouldn't import anymore

>>4141273
COCONAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>4142383
COCONAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

So has it been confirmed that whatever Cocona is or isn't the third diveable reyvateil?

>>4143786
It sort of looks like she is. Here's the old version of >>4138813

Though at first I thought the third reyvateil was going to have huge breasts to balance out the cast.

>>4143786
Right now it looks like she's just a vanguard.
But who knows, maybe Gust will throw a bone at us ped- fans and makes her a proper reyvateil somewhere along the game.

Is this confirmed for localization? I'm afraid my knowledge moonrunes is rather limited.

>>4144238
VARIABLE UNIT

she can do both

>>4144298
Localization it's up to NISA, and they'll do it eventually.
There's delicious money to be made out of fans, and AT2's success even moved some water in the mainstream gaming pool, which is probably the reason Gust switched to 3D, they're trying to attract more customers to their niche.

>>4144309
>AT2's success

AT2 sold like shit bro

>>4144324
Source ?

I doesn't matter, none of these girls will be as good as Mir

>>4144330

Fuck if I'm finding the article, but it sold half what AT1 sold. It sold so little over here that that's the reason NISA didn't do a reprint with the glitches fixed. Because it would have costed them more.

GUST got the money to finally change over to 3d from Mana Khemia, which was an actual success after years of failed Atelier attempts. That's also why they both got ported to PSP.

>>4144341
I actually bought AT2. The artbook was nice.

>>4144341
I did like Atelier Iris, loved that shop girl in the first one. The second wasn't bad too.

According to:

http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=31091&region=All

Ar Tonelico 2 in the US only sells...40,000 copies.

And my buddy wants to play AT3 in English. I'm waiting for him to descend to pure western gaming.

>>4144379
Limiting yourself to 'pure' country of origin gaming seems retarded.

>>4144386

Well, his passion for import gaming is waning for some reason.

But enough about him, AT2 sells only 40k copies. Will AT3 be localized so that he can be HAPPY?

>>4144398
It's not like Nisa has to devevolp the game, they probably don't even pay royalties, just licence the game, translate it and then make money out of it.
Gust doesn't seem to care about western market after all, and that may be another reason to get the japan version of the game, considering they can do DLC and patches this time.

Considering the glitch, cut voices, and everything, it's amazing AT2 sold at all. Seems like they shot themselves in the foot to me.

Speaking of NISA, Sakura Taisen V coming in March. Should be interesting to see how that turns out.

>>4144341
Here's hoping for a third MK game, although it would probably be 3d too if ever developed :(

>>4144573
Any game that has Anna in it is fine with me. Or, if you could choose who the main character is going to be: Anna or Flay, that'd be even better.

>>4144417
But haven't NISA released DLC for their games?, The ones that should have DLC that is.
Atlus did it as well, and wouldn't NISA risk losing way to much from causing rage from their fans?

>>4144869

I think nisa has dlc (along with dfc) for one of the disgaea games, whichever one is on the ps3.

It's at times like these I am tempted to buy that japanese Ar Tonelico pack like the Salburg A pack or something and then just keep the japanese game as a collectors item or something, and then when the game actually is released in english....buy NISA's special pack "again" in order to play the actual game.
If only I could afford to do such a thing ;_;

inb4 Family friendly, heavily censored NA and PAL releases.

>>4138574
The resemblance is uncanny.

>>4144897
Why so?
The others got through fine, (well mostly at least)
Why did you remind me of the few needless edits they actually did

So how many of you are going to actually play the japanese version without understanding moon?
Wouldn't that kind of ruin the experience?

>>4144934

My friend will do it if there is no localization of AT3.

Then, he'll fall off, lose interest, and do something else. Hopefully towards something that is English in the first place, like God Of War 3.

Me? Hoh, I just went through Tales of Destiny PS2 3 years ago. Blind. AND I HAD FUN! All I need is some guides, and I can go import gaming with impunity.

>>4144967
>My friend will do it if there is no localization of AT3.
>if there is no localization of AT3.
So far I can't think of any reason for why there wouldn't be one.

>>4138569
Kindly stop spamming, harassing and generally attacking www.anon
talk
.com, please. We don't want you there. Understood? PS: If you want these messages to stop, simply stop fucking with us, remove all lying troll articles about AT and kill the illegal clones. Then you will never be bothered again. It is up to you.

>>4145023
Maybe the same reason there was no localization for the first two?

Saki looks like retard moe

( ﾟ∀ﾟ)o彡゜Mute for 3rd divable girl!

I would say this game has a good localization chance simply because it's finally in 3D, and that's what is expected nowadays. AT1+2 had low rez sprites in towns and combat that are reminiscent of the PS1 generation. I don't personally think that's bad, but for the world at large to take it seriously it needs to look like a modern RPG. The only 2d that matters, the cgs and character portaits, are intact so it's all good.
It also has the really beautiful backgrounds those games had.


Honestly, I hope NISA has learned that if you fuck up a localization that you shouldn't be surprised if it sells like absolute shit. Hopefully they don't go DUR HUR NOBDY LIKED THE GAEM instead of realizing it was their fault.

>>4145772
In my case, I didn't buy the 2nd one because I had already downloaded the undub and got lazy.

That's not an option for any PS3 game though, so I'll have to buy it.

If only I had money so I could buy that bundle pack and get all the soundtracks rather than worrying about buying a single game.

>>4145073
>Maybe the same reason there was no localization for the first two?
What are you talking about?

>>4145906
I think the internal version of star ocean 4 has dual audio

It probably just depends on whos handles the localization

>>4146255
>international

>>4144341
>>GUST got the money to finally change over to 3d from Mana Khemia, which was an actual success after years of failed Atelier attempts.

Mana Khemia was an awesome game though. It was better than AT2 in a few ways, so its success was well deserved.

>>4146572
>>GUST got the money to finally change over to 3d from Mana Khemia, which was an actual success after years of failed Atelier attempts.

And I think I read that their fist foray into 3D, Atelier Rorona, was a reasonable success as well. If I remember correctly, it sold as many copies as the Atelier series did back in its popular days.

>>4138568
Kindly stop spamming, harassing and generally attacking www.anon
talk
.com, please. We don't want you there. Understood? PS: If you want these messages to stop, simply stop fucking with us, remove all lying troll articles about AT and kill the illegal clones. Then you will never be bothered again. It is up to you.

>>4146572
Mana Khemia was alot more fun than AT2, and had a much more interesting ending.
AT2 just felt like it could have gotten so much crazier or gone much farther than it did.
but mana khemia 2, still a fun game but goddamn i can only play the girls path since the male character was a super-preppy-mega-emo-faggot, i couldnt stand playing as him for more than 5 minutes

>>4146759
Emo?
Not really, for the greatest part.
Just lacking drive, and not that great as a snarker.
But yeah, the first MK was better.

i didn't know persona 5 was out already

i fucking love atlus

>>4146759
Mana khemia 2 was such a let down plot wise.
The fist one is about homonculi and creating life, the second one... honestly what was that all about ? A bet between manas ? Jesus Christ...

>>4146681

To be fair, AT3 3d was on the books before Atelier Rorona was a big success.

Why does this fucking reminder of how terrible /jb/ has become must still be here?

>>4146831
Oh, it's you again. Hi.

Protip: Hide the thread.

>>4146831
Why don't you post more japanese birds cooking spaghetti?

Serious note: Started AT 2 out of curiosity, it's surprisingly good, but the localization really is shit. I don't know how good NISA is at Japanese but they sure are shit with English.

Also, I could have sworn that everyone in an earlier thread was saying that Luca was a bitch. WTF? Cloche is the prissiest princess that ever lived while Luca is stammering and moe. Do they do 180s or something?

>>4146921
Still in the first 6 hours or so?

>>4146921
Keep playing, there's more to Chroche under her ojou-sama archetype and much much more under Luca's moemoe.

>>4146921
While I didn't like Cloche at all at the beginning either, she ended up becoming my favourite about half way through the game.

I need to replay the game for her route. If her level 5 Cosmosphere is anything to go by, it looked like things were going to get a lot more crazy.

>>4146921

Luca isn't telling you anything. Also she's a prostitute.

Cloche is straight tsundere without even any frills.

>>4146921
pretty much, you'll see.

>>4144379
also, the horrible localization didn't help anything.
I bought the game at release, and knew ~30 people that were interested in it, most of which were people who buy all the games they play. In the end, only 6 people bought it, and 4 people pirated it because of the combination of the localization, and glitches (especially the freezing glitch).
If other people were this deterred from the game due to its poor quality, 80k or so sales would have been made easily.

>>4146950
>Also she's a prostitute.
No she's not, dive therapy was common even before the Granothode Inferia, it was banned because it could cure IPD gone berserk and thus deprive Loudness of test subjects, of course officially they banned it because considered "indecent".
True, there are Reyvateils that do "that" sort of things, but that's a minority, Luca's first level is a standard dive therapy session and there was nothing dirty about it.

That actually makes me a lot more interested. I expected Cloche to go dere eventually but if Luca isn't as innocent as she seems that's a much more interesting direction than moeblob.

>>4146979
I heard if you have a PS2 slim that the glitch doesn't happen. Any truth to this?

>>4146996

Too bad she's dominating cloche in the deeper levels because that's what types like her like.

Sounds like she's been entertaining some customers. Enjoy your used goods bro.

>>4147013
...Nope/

>>4146996
she would whore herself out if they just pay her more money

>>4147013
it still happens.
some people say you can avoid it by turning off all sound and movies.
If you can play burned games you can apply the patch which fixes the bug.
Or you can beat her before the 3 defense phase.

>>4147015
You're talking about Chroche's cosmosphere ?
That Luca has nothing to do with the real Luca, she was another side of Chroche as well.
All the characters in a cosmosphere are borne from the Reyvateil's mind, the only exceptions are divers such as Croix and some other REALLY exceptional cases.

>>4147023
But she didn't.
There's a big difference between something that MAY HAVE or HAS happened.

>>4147058

No, Luca's sphere 5. What happens when Luca wins and Cloche loses.

>>4147077
Totally forgot about that, but ok there's a part of her like that, still it's not like it's her whole character.
And it's just level 5, the predominant persona it's the one you see on level 8 or 9.
Chroche has one hell of murderous persona deep inside her, but she's anything except a murderer on the outside.

>>4147161

Kind of hard to pick up a personality like that without a bit of precedent.

Enjoy your used goods.

>>4147191
You don't need a past as a sadist dominatrix to have a rude personality obsessed with control.

>Dorodere: a new term for a character who’s dorodoro on the inside (messed up and disturbed), but deredere on the outside (sweet and affectionate). This term seems to have been coined particularly to describe Luca Truelywaath of GUST

Well, if she was the first one then it really is a quite young term, though to be honest it doesn't sound all that attractive.
I myself chosed Croche for my first playthrough, but it feels like as if doredere somehow gives the wrong impression of Luca.
Sure, dorodoro might be "messed up" with lots of different and complicated and even conflicting feelings and I suppose that both love and hate can be present with various strength, but
>messed up and disturbed on the inside
>sweet and affectionate on the outside
somehow gives of a feeling of a character that is unable to have true feelings.
So i guess that it actually should fit her perfectly, though it might not always do her justice if people make shallow assumptions based soley on this. (Though that's kind of true for all the moe arch-types, but perhaps little more so for this one)
Luca was really acting like a major bitch and her betrayal was truly quite the hard blow, though real love could still be present within her dorodoro-ness
I am still a Croche-fag though

>>4147220

You do when you speak about it as if you have experience in said subject.

>>4147223
The last post from the other thread, commenting the one that called Luca 'dorodere' after it reached the bump limit.

>>4147224
Why ? Don't you have some knowledge on the subject as well ?
Does that mean that you did S&M ?

>>4147223
If the term was described more as

>messed up and disturbed on the inside
>wild variation between outer emotions, with occassional honest and truthful deredere

I think it would fit a lot more characters.

The only thing I really felt for Luca was sorry for her. She needed help, and something stable to try and reform her life around.

>>4147240

She says that she knows these types and that they like to be dominated.

This is not something one would just pick up going about their daily lives. Either she's been involved in some kinky therapy or she just likes imaging what fetishes other people could have.

Used goods or a slut. Take your pick.

>>4147246
>She needed help
Hands down, the part where she sacrifices all of her cosmosphere's inhabitants, namely parts of her, to reach for some kind of impossible perfection, to punish herself for being unable to save her sister, was creepy and sad at the same time.

Luca is dark Sakura in disguise.

>>4147252
>Either she's been involved in some kinky therapy
She denied it, and if she lied and really did it, you would've seen it in her cosmosphere much more directly.
>she just likes imaging what fetishes other people could have.
Not that hard when all the people in the place are parts of her, it's like cheating on mind reading and that's not a sign of any "talent" she may have acquire throught practice.

And again, you're judging her whole character based only on 1 of her 9 personas.

In a way doredere sounds a bit like an inversed yandere.

>>4147276
>She denied it, and if she lied and really did it, you would've seen it in her cosmosphere much more directly.

Considering half her cosmosphere is about lying....

What game is this?

>>4147286

Sengoku no Tonelico 3

>>4147280
That's not an issue in deep levels, which is the main reason she unconsciously tried to stop him from going foward.

>>4147280

They are defenses, the idea is the deeper you go the more you see of the real person.

Also they are obstacles they cannot overcome on their own, Lucas have a LOT of issues.

Even Mir is like that were she put up a play in order to test how Croix would handle her.

>>4138574
Well fuck, why has no one commented on this.
Seriously this way over inuendo, this is porn, we just need an image of the mc fingering her and it's set.

So who is Soma, is she the third?

>>4147480
I think she's one of Finnel personas.

>>4147013
Only the translation is glitched. From what I read, a boss tries using an attack that's been removed from its attack table and the game crashes when it can't find it.

The original is fine.

The mere idea of a moemoe galge like this having a used goods character is laughable, and that should be enough to settle that debate.
Come on, we all know how otaku flip out about this sort of thing.

>>4147569
Apparently the glitch is bypassed on pscx2. It's actually a memory hang.

>>4147598
It bothers me too honestly. To large degrees. Sluts are horrible. Nobody wants a pre-owned, used up, slut. Ruined for marriage.

>>4147650
This is ironic because my girlfriend was a virgin and after telling her about what I did with previous girlfiriends she now calls me slut and used goods Just as planned.

You rang ?

>>4147598
Used goods, damaged goods, whatever. They're the ones that need love the most.

Poor Luca ;_;

NO NOT ANOTHER SLUT THREAD

MY HEART CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE....seeing all these pure girls who were leading me on, pretending to be good cute innocent girls while the whole time they were cum guzzling sluts, laughing at me.

God, I hate women. Why can't they just NOT be sluts?

Isn't about sluts, used goods, etc.
Is about Luca being a fucking bitch.

Innocent girls are cute and feel cleaner, but used goods are nice too: they'll do the nasty stuff right away.

I can never tell if anon is being funny and ironic when talking about sluts or actually serious.

Not so healthy afterall.

>>4150367
COCONAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Fucking /v/.

a three day AT thread without a single Mir pic?
/jp/ I am dissapoint

>>4150392
(＊｀ω´)

>>4150412
A great example of how terrible /jp/ is.

>>4150412
You will never sleep with Mir in your arms ;_;

Unless you got one of those 20 dakimakura covers that were made.

What's it like to hold a β-reyvateil in your arms?

>>4150458
Like a bag of sand.

last one because the others are NSFW

Finally frustrated past the breaking point Jonesy?

Keep some Yuki pics for the next Ar Tonelico thread bro.

Wait, is someone really imagebombing a dead thread? This is a hilarious indication of /jp/'s quality.

>>4150507
I heard you like Haroohee so I put some /a/ in your /v/ so you can shitpost while you shitpost.

>>4150512
Would you like some kitty candy while you post your pointless pictures?

>>>/v/

>>4150535
>>I heard you like Haroohee so I put some /a/ in your /v/ so you can shitpost while you shitpost.

Wow, this is incredibly bitter and random post from you. What happened tonight? Did someone upset you in another thread?

>>4150550
>>>>/v/

Enjoy you're trip?

>>4150535
Ah, there we go.

I herd you like haroohee, so I put some haroohee in your arr toenelleeco so you can /a/ while you /v/ while you /jp/.

>>4150564
It's an honest post.
All things Japanese welcome, like you always say to excuse the posting of videogames on this board.

Is it time for Persona 4?

>>4150612
Too late. Tomorrow bro.

>>4150615
Sure, it'll be a long weekend.

I chose Aurica in the first game kind of by accident, then chose Luca in the second game.

Which girl is probably going to be the worst in AT3? I'm assuming I'll end up choosing her. Picture probably related.

>>4150629
Thank you for using sage. Maybe not all of you /v/bros are bad, just ZUN, Sion Gamma, and ZUN posting as Anonymous.

Is that really you, Jones?

>>4150664
Not liking saging means shit though with the front page the way it is.


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