/jp/ - Otaku Culture

bampu

1 more for ari red fast.

Learn your yaku bro.

why is every tenpai discard also a ron tile?

Bump. Hope to get in a quick game before work. Need 2 more people for ari red fast.

>>4132543
I'd play but I am currently on a horrible luck strike and need to stop playing for a bit to allow my magical sand to regather.

Holy shit.

The possibility of no limit mahjong.

What's the best place to buy a set?

>>4132970
You mean like tiles and such? I'm not sure but if you have 3 friends who understand/know how to play I envy you. I want to play for real so bad but I can't find any place to play or have friends that want to.

>>4133018
Not quite, I'm just surrounded by game fanatics who want to give everything a try.
Do you have any weeaboo friends? They should be easy to convince.

>>4133139
Nope. No friends at all bro, this is /jp/ remember. We don't socialize much, and the ones that do are not good at holding acquaintances.

>>4132841
Jesus fucking Christ, this is hilarious. Wasn't there an anime scheduled or something?

>>4133789
The DVD will be released at the end of February, there's a 7min teaser here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CdIjx5w86U

Also, 3dzumo.

>>4133812
I watching this so hard when it's out.

>>4133812
I'm watching this so hard when it's out.

Was in tenpai for a Suu-ankou and the match ended up drawn. Feels bad man.

3:0

>>4133919
Same here. God, I was so close.... ;_;

>>4132970
I got a nice set from Yellow Mountain Imports. Play with my family every so often.

>>4132358
Kindly stop spamming, harassing and generally attacking www.anon
talk
.com, please. We don't want you there. Understood?

http://tenhou.net/0/?54545757

Starts: 01/16/10 10:00 EST/4CHAN TIME
Ends: 01/16/10 15:00 EST/4CHAN TIME

Rules:
- Rank is determined by your best 3 game streak.

Game Rules:
- Nashi Red Fast (No open tanyao)
- Tonnansen (East and South rounds)

Ranking:
http://tenhou.net/sc/?C5454-sc3m

This should clear, or not every single room has past games.

>>4135957

Fuck your nashi shit.

>>4135970

Dohoho, playing Ari Red every week gets boring.

>>4133919
I was in tenpai for Thirteen Orphans and it was so obvious that the other players were probably laughing their asses off. Feels really bad, man.

>>4135762
Thanks! I'll check it out tomorrow when I'm less half-asleep.

>>4135957

>/JＰ/ ＣＨＡＭＰＩＯＮＳＨＩＰ

Now you're just trying to be a faggot.

>>4132491

Oh god I remember playing like that as well. Remember learning your yaku is very easy.

>>4132491
How do you mahjong pros learn your yaku anyway? Just keep playing, or are there lists out there?

>>4136008

Check out wiki pages.

>>4136008

There are no "Mahjong pros" on /jp/. It's the same deal as kids who claim to be "pro" at SSBB or Street Fighter.

Go to a real tournament and see what it's like for yourself.

>>4135991

When you are tired of fast, you are tired of life.

fags

these threads used to be fun until /bun/ invaded with this tournament garbage

saged and reported, /r/ bomb

any good site on learning mahjong? you finally convince me to try out mahjong, now tell me where to get started!

>>4136008
There are no mahjong pros on /jp/, like someone already mentioned.

http://www.mediafire.com/?nxzemzyjzty

A friend of mine made this, it's pretty nice to learn your yaku with.

Oh, it should be mentioned that chitoi, iipeiko, ryanpeiko are closed hands only, and the value of chinitsu, honitsu, ikkitsukan decreases by 1 han if you open your hand.

Need two more for ari red fast.

Is there a bara/gore mode to this game? I can't find it.

デジャマ disconnected after losing 8000 points in the very first round. That is all.

>mahjong pros
No such thing here.
I don't think there is anyone here that is 4dan and higher with 1800+ rating in Tenhou.

Just remember the four most common yakus in mahjong.
-Riichi
-Fanpai
-Tanyao
-hon/chinitsu

I swear this will be the yakus that you will be using for almost 90% of your hand.
Just use this 3 until you are familiar with the rules and wanna start making bigger scoring hand.
Also if you are starting out don't call tiles unless it is fanpai.

>/JＰ/ ＣＨＡＭＰＩＯＮＳＨＩＰ
Don't make it too common. Just look at this thread. It is already infested with tournament tier bullshit and stuff.
>Nashi Red Fast
No open tanyao. Problem? Can't play defense with tanyao?

>>4137750
>I don't think there is anyone here that is 4dan and higher with 1800+ rating in Tenhou.

About one month ago, I was 4 dan with a 1800+ rating. Of course, now I'm 2 dan with a 1600 rating. I don't really know what to say. I must have gotten both much worse and much less lucky at the same time.

>>4137781
Fuck you lucky bastard.
How was the 4dan 1800+ rooms?
I always wanted to try that but I couldn't be fucked and lacking in skills to grind for that.

>>4137750
>>I don't think there is anyone here that is 4dan and higher with 1800+ rating in Tenhou.

Quite a few of us do. 4 dan isn't even hard now, all you need to do is grind and not be retarded. You can get 1800 before shodan if you are determined to not lose.

>>4137911
>1800 before shodan
This is pretty useless since the higher tier room is 4dan 1800+ and 7dan 2000+.

>>4137930
Because it is absolutely delightful to grind to 4 dan and then crawl your R up from 16xx

>>4138130
That is why there is no mahjong pros here.
The pros can do it effortlessly I believed.

>>4137781
bad streak comes and goes...everyone will encounter one of those...heck i just lost all the games i played today on 7447. rage!!!!

>>4138154
it's because you are a shitty player, phoz

>>4138265

so are you.

Bumping to counter the faggotry.

Bump.

Fucking shitty server, I blame the newfag at /jp/.

>>4132355
Kindly stop spamming, harassing and generally attacking www.anon
talk
.com, please. We don't want you there. Understood? PS: If you want these messages to stop, simply stop fucking with us, remove all lying troll articles about AT and kill the illegal clones. Then you will never be bothered again. It is up to you.

>>4139692
Sure is easy for a bot to win a tournament.

>>4139692
Soap will be first again by the end of January with a 1500 point lead anyway, mark my words.

>>4139692
I don't know what this is, but it looks hilarious.

>>4139692

What is this?

>>4139709
Not if I keep my 3rd place streak up. ;_;

>>4139718
http://ponpalace.com/leaderboard.php?type=4

Anyone up for 4p? No shitty 3p.

>>4139692
>>4139724
How are those points calculated? The points of the individual games don't add up to that.

>>4139724
Isn't there a way to filter all the players who have played less than, say, 5 games?

>>4139741
Looks like I was late for this game, but I'm queueing for after, if anyone's still up for it.

Also, my interest is piqued about this Tourney, despite having little experience with Nashi. I've got nothing better to do at 16:00 in the afternoon though, so... Is there some official sign up?

>>4139821

>>4139821
No signup for these tournaments, but you can count me in as well.

bump

>>4139692
Cool lie bro.
Cheating your way through again with bot again phoz?

>>4139821
>Also, my interest is piqued about this Tourney, despite having little experience with Nashi.

Nashi is made of starting hands and frustration. Just play one game and you'll get what I mean.

Most of us play 3p rather than 4p, because the games are shorter and for some miraculous reason there's less rage overall. I don't mind winning, say, two or three 3p games and losing one badly, but placing something like 3 2 3 2 in 4p games is just bad.

phoz is like 162/175 in 3p, so you can imagine the standard of the 4p regulars.

>>4139692
Rank 1: 34 games, Average +18
Rank 2: 12 games, Average +26

>>4141640
I got about .400 winning percentage in 4P but I suck in 3P.
Being good in 4P doesn't necessarily translate to being good in 3P.

>>4141791
have you considered the idea you may not even be that good at 4p, unless you have played a huge sample of games against people of a reasonable skill level?

if you suck regularly at 3p it means you are bad at general decision-making. this is not punished too hard in 4p - you always have tsumo and the retard in last place to help you along.

>>4141640
>there's less rage overall
Not for me, I go fucking crazy when I play 3P and the same person keeps getting a 4th tile tsumo. I might get back into 3P, though, so I have something to grind again.

>>4142036
That's because you don't pray enough to your chinese overlords.

>>4142057
Those damn chinese old men, ruining everything.

So... 3P is harder to be good at but also easier to start with?

>>4142031
Total games played: 562
4P
1位率: 0.391
2位率: 0.291
3位率: 0.189
4位率: 0.130

3P
1位率: 0.374
2位率: 0.363
3位率: 0.264

I don't know if the sample size is enough but I can't choose my opponents bro.
Now that I check back my winrate in 3P and 4P is about the same but I guess I said I suck more in 3P is because I lose more in 3P.
3P is a completely different game altogether. The same play style that works in 4P won't work in 3P.

>>4142199
It's much harder to not end last in 3P than it is in 4P, if that makes sense. I wouldn't say it's harder in general, though.

>>4142201

play 0000 for real stats.

>>4142345
1位率: 0.295
2位率: 0.393
3位率: 0.213
4位率: 0.098

Yup. I lose even less in 0000. It is a tsumo and riichii roulette fest in 4P.

i somehow won a hand of video mahjong on some MAME game once

felt great man

3man or no 3man, fuck it, this doesn't happen every day.

>>4142596

>doubt you are 1 dan+ and the stats imply you play easy mode rooms.

Is there a client where you can play against CPU opponents? I'm not afraid to lose, but I am so slow that I think I will ruin someone else's experience.

>>4142703
There's a time limit to make your move so don't worry about that.

>>4142653
2dan is the most common rank in Tenhou bro. It is not an actual indicator of skills.

Mahjong experts need to be 4dan +1800 and the real godlike players are 7dan +2000. Like I said everyone got different opinions, some people just liked 3P and vice versa. I personally enjoy 4P more compare to 3P.

I think you all need to calm down and read the Holy Book.
http://www.mediafire.com/?ozzjhzfyzmm

Bump for some motherfucking 3P. I'll probably suck, though.

>>4142646

Doesn't matter. 3P is for losers.

>>4143177
You're saying that like being a loser is a bad thing.

>>4143185

Don't care. Even something like a triple Yakuman in 3P is only about a 4000 point hand in 4P. Learn to play or get out, 3P games aren't worth my time.

Tripcode user reported and hidden. Enjoy talking to yourself.

I... don't understand... ;_;

>>4143198
He's just mad, don't let it get to you.

When did these threads start having so much hatred in them?

>>4143324
When people started to think that they were better than others at the game.
Its the same elitist bullshit that plagues every other facet of this site.

>>4143158

better luck next time. 10n kept dealing to me. back to touhou games i go.

>>4143343
Yeah, good game, until next time!

>>4143340
It's quite silly, really. All it does is chase new players away.

Anyone up for ari red?

>>4143453
everyone and their mom plays ari red

>>4143453
omg n00b play some real deal mahjong like ari red FAST, i wont waste my time on normal geez learn to play

>>4143324
Probably some new faggots that just learn that game and feeling frustrated that he keeps losing or just phoz samefagging.

Still need one more for ari red.

Go Yutanpo~!

Ugh, why did I have to draw that 2m, I was waiting for 1st to drop it. ;_;

>>4143730
You were like 6000 points behind and you went for a chanta? Not trying to win?

>>4143755
I couldn't really do anything else. Well, unless I waited the entire round and potentially get forced to play safe hoping to get my tiles together and hit uradora.

>>4143755

pro /jp/ players don't know how to count points

>>4143656

>this faggot clearly failed english class.

>>4143755
Oh, and I was 4000 points behind. A direct hit on 1st would've gotten me first place.

>>4143782
Hi MANkoto-kun.

>>4143784
Well look who it is!

>>4143762
Time to change your name.
Real MAN go for broke. Plus this is 7447, no punishment for finishing outside 1st and 2nd.

>>4143794
I love you.

>>4143799
There's always punishment! I'm happy I ended second though, because east in the last round felt like a threat to me, since I've seen him make some ridiculous comebacks before.

>>4143806
You're just saying that, silly!

does anyone have any mahjong game recommendations to practice? for like pc or a handheld system or something.

I don't have internet a lot of the time, but I'd really like to learn how to play mah-jong, so if anyone has any advice I'd really appreciate it!

>>4144034
you can save http://www.gamedesign.jp/flash/mahjong/mahjong_e.html for offline

>>4144034
http://rapidshare.com/files/60276460/Saikyo_no_3D_Mahjong-JP.rar
Saikyo no 3d mahjong worked pretty well for me in the past.
Could never really find a good handheld game though(at least for the DS). Tiles are pretty hard to see on the screen.

One more for ari red fast

faggots

This thing is harder than a yakuman.

>>4144510
What is this yaku called?
I've never even seen anyone complete it before.

>>4144510

>+8000

lol wat

>>4144520
Nagashi Mangan. I've gotten it once before. It's pretty rare; the only other time I've seen it I didn't even notice he was going for it.

>>4144510

what the hell is that

/r/ mahjong replay link

>>4144536
If your entire discard pile contains just terminals, winds, and honors, and none of them have been called by any other player, AND the game ends in a draw, you gain points equal to a mangan.

Mind games man. Mind games.

Thanks for posting the links to the mahjong programs for the PC! Really appreciate it!

>>4144536

It's a consolation prize for discarding a kokushi.

>>4144614
Not really. It's just a bonus that comes with tanyao obsession.

>>4144536
http://tenhou.net/0?log=2010011518gm-0059-7447-x410950684f84&tw=0
Not worth going for because of the low payout.

I'm really good at ruining my hands

>>4146111
Honitsu, yakuhai is only 3900 anyway. Your fast hand was not that bad.

>>4144580
Or maybe he just saw the shiny button and clicked hastily.

Dammit guys, where are you? Don't make me play in lobby 0.

There's never anyone in 7447 whenever I jump in there, keep having to play in 0000

>>4147188
0000 scares me. I feel like the only newbie there.

Yeah, fuck you too Tenhou. This match consisted almost entirely of me miraculously being iishanten/tenpai for junchan nearly every round, only for someone to tsumo.

;_;

>>4147405
Huh. Junchan/chanta are usually not good tactics for the red 5 rule.

>>4147405
I swear to god there is some mastermind behind these horrible luck games.

>>4147237

Hahahahaha, good one. 0000 is full of noobies these days.

>>4147505
Chanta isn't something you go for, but sometimes it's definitely forced on you. You see it when it'd be useless to discard 8 tiles from your hand to go for something that isn't Chanta.

>>4147505
Yeah, but I always feel so tempted when my starting hand is 2/3shanten for it.

Is anybody there in 7447?

>>4147534
I swear to god, sometimes it seems like the game forces me to go for chiitoitsu.

>>4147670
I have that with honitsu, and then tenhou only gives me tiles of another suit, making my honitsu painfully obvious. And in the meanwhile, of course, my discard pool is a chinitsu of the other suit.

Fuck this shit. That was my last game

This was all luck, no skill.

>>4147921
I hate you. That's all.

>>4147921
Worst match ever.

>>4147921
I don't understand, why didn't someone with a green dragon pon win the entire game?

>>4147929
Well, the next time we play, I'll certainly lose. My reserve of magic sand is gone.

>>4147929
>>4147946
>>4147947
The guy lucked out, didn't he?

>>4147971
That, and the fact that it was pon palace/2000 point rons everywhere

>>4147985
It was truly a match of amateurs.

>>4147921
What kind of hand was that?

>>4148009
Are you dumb or just blind?

>>4148009
Anyways, Richi ippatsu tsumo pinfu itsu udora 1.

Are there still that many bots around?

I wonder if MANkoto-kun is a virgin? I hope so.

More to 7447

>>4148021
I need to learn the names of all these shit.
FUCK.

>>4148009
riichi, ippatsu, tsumo, pinfu, ittsu, uradora 1
still #2(38300 > 35600), though.

I always make stupid discards in the +4 time games, +10 games work out a lot better for me

>>4148039
>>4148021
This jackass is pretty damn lucky.

>>4148037
You actually don't need to know the names if you know the yakus.

>>4148037
Ryuuiisou without hatsu is still ryuuiisou, right?

There sure isn't any luck on my side, I was in this situation almost the whole game waiting for 9-pin or 9-characters

>>4148102
Yes.

>>4148131
Uhm, you know that the Pair needs to be part of the terminals/honors too?

>>4148153

Yes I knew of that but I was too frustrated to actually think straight at that point, those pairs came at me continously and at some point I thought of trying something else

>>4148153
Hahahahaha, he probably doesn't.

Fucking NoNames and their stupid luck.

lal weaboos :')

>>4148168
You should never change your mind on a whim like that. The only thing it can bring you is frustration.

Do AoA and co still play sometimes?

>>4148186
What is it called when it end up in a draw like that?

>>4148186
Hahaha oh wow

>>4148223
TORIBURU RON. It was retarded though, it completely ruined my whole game as the hands I had after that were complete dog shit. ;_;

>>4148223
Draw? Where do you see a draw? I only see one guy who's going to pay for three ron.

>>4148239
not in tenhou, triple ron = draw there

There's 6 people lurking in 7447 right now, let's play.

>>4148251

Queue for a game then

>>4148186
That's one shitty situation. I hope you'll have better luck next time, fellow NoName :(

>>4148270
NoName is the lucky one. soap ruined his 18000(toitoi, yakuhai 2, dora 3).

Nice comeback win bro.

>>4148660
>Nice comeback
>Someone dealing into a fully open chin itsu

What

>>4148698
Comeback as in he went from 3rd to 1st place. Doesn't matter if someone was silly enough to deal into the chinitsu or not.

>>4132355
Kindly stop spamming, harassing and generally attacking www.anon
talk
.com, please. We don't want you there. Understood? PS: If you want these messages to stop, simply stop fucking with us, remove all lying troll articles about AT and kill the illegal clones. Then you will never be bothered again. It is up to you.

>>4148660
I want to cry. Fucking riichi.

>>4148716
Pretty much sums up why I try to hold back on riichi'ing as much as possible. You must have cringed when you drew that 7p.

2 more for any ari red

1 for 3p fast

>>4148716
This was definitely not the time to riichi. You had your yakuhai, and you could have changed your pair wait for a dora wait. You didn't need the riichi.

6 people playing in 3p? What a waste.

Who's up for a game of Russian Mahjong?

>>4148751
I actually almost never riichi, but today I've been doing it on a whim at random times. I must be frustrated.

ron, I fucking hate you and your damn tsumos.

>>4148787

You're a waste.

>>4148847
>He still thinks that 3p is a viable form of mahjong

>>4148855
>He still thinks his easy mode 4p is any better than 3p

>>4148873

the admin said he's getting rid of 3p soon...

>guy tsumos 4 times in a row
>game is over

...what?

>>4148902
feels good man

>>4148787
>>4148847
>>4148855
3P is sometimes more fun because people don't take it too serious and iishanten hell is much rarer.

I've also noticed that people tend to play much more aggressive in 3p. I only recently got to appreciate 3p and have only 80 games in 7447, but with a １位率 of .500 and all those kan after riichi, it makes me think the others are sometimes not even trying to play defensively

So yeah, guess I'll be placing 4th in the next 20 or so matches.

>3:8
>join
>AoA
shit shit SHIT

i suck as much as mahjong as i do at poker

i guess i dont understand it which sucks because i really like mahjong

>>4149014
Well i can only talk for myself but when i play 3p i only want to have a quick action match and not a drawn out battle.
So i go in and try either to get a lowchance big hand or try to quickly assemble a average hand with nukidora and co. .
Sure i lose many rounds with that but for me it's more of a "turn brain off and relax a bit" gamemode in contrast to 4p

>>4149014
i know what you mean by playing more aggressive, well i tend to do more anyway. like if I am tempai but know that a tile will probably get called i'll just risk it and discard anyways. Also I think people tend to go for bigger hands which is always more exciting than someone tsumoing for 2000 points for 4 turns.

>>4149024

AoA isn't even that good.

>>4149024
>3:8
>join
>phoz
>fearquit

>>4147985
>>4147989
Hahaha no, you're just mad that you lost. Assuming one of you is ファンシ, I really enjoyed making you lose 1st place with 3 rons in a row. And then a 4th ron from DrySpell. Don't suck next time.
>Truly a match of amateurs
aahahaha yea ok I'll enjoy my 1st place.
Yes I am acting like a huge faggot. It's because I'm mad from getting 4th place just now.I'm mad because I believe it's undeserved and that I'm better than the 3 other players

>>4149135

phoz is the Fred of Mahjong -- he gets lucky, but most of it is hype.

>>4149135
>3:8
>join
>phoz
>activate bot and win

>>4149154

You're not, it's called luck. For instance, on Monday, I lost 14 times in a row, but then on Tuesday, I won 12 and lost 2. Anybody who takes Tenhou seriously in any case and think it amounts to jack squat in real life Mahjong needs to get their head checked.

>0:1
>use proxies to play as 3 players
>still lose

>>4149164
What's the difference between tenhou and real life mahjong?

>>4149175
What's the difference between online poker and real life poker?

>>4149186

>>4149186
To be honest I don't know how important facial expressions are in mahjong. But this is the first time in two years that I see them mentioned. They're not as important as in poker, that's for sure.

>>4149192
That was physically painful

>>4149206
What?

Mahjong face > Poker face

>>4149186
ITS CHEATING!

chin itsu, 4 hidden pons.
how many points could this have been?

In Mahjong, you can actually see where people are playing their tiles from, and thus, you can form a psychological advantage. Some players don't even order their tiles right to mess with people's minds. Also, like in poker, you can usually tell how good a person's hand is based on their movements. This is what separates the pros from the amateurs.

>>4149246

Why do people only post screencaps of AoA's wins? I've seen tons of times where he's played right into another person's hand.

>>4149246
4 hidden pons? Suuankou yakuman?

>>4149246
Not sure how it works in 3P, but normally it'd just be considered a Suu-ankou, right?

>>4149246
Tsumo the hand and you'd get Suu An Kou.

Otherwise, ron for 6 (Chin itsu), Toi toi (2), Suu an kou (2) for 10 point Baiman. Riichi for 11, hit 2 ura-dora for yakuman.

>>4149270
San An Kou*

>>4149270
You can ron if you're waiting on the pair, with 4 hidden pons it's always a suuankou.

so even if suu anko no extra points for it being chin itsu?

>>4149246
Self draw Yakuman
Ron
Toi Toi +2
Chin Itsu +6
San an Ko +2

>>4149278
Suu an kou is a yakuman, highest point value (excluding double yakuman). Yakuman hands override any other points you would get.

>>4149275
There's no way he'll enter a tanki wait with that hand. There *is*, but it's not feasible.

>>4149278
The only way you can exceed the value of a yakuman hand is by a double yakuman (i.e: Dai San Gen + Suuankou)

>>4149256

>>4149278
Only if you play without Limits, otherwise only another Yakuman can increase a Yakuman

Legend of Koizumi has inspired me to play Washizu Mahjong with three other people.

What should I bring to the game?

>>4149340
Cigarette ash and a blood siphoning machine.

>>4149340

A mansion.

Way to go ノネーム, you basically GAVE デジャマ that game.

>>4149340
6 million yen.

>>4149384
Sorry, I wasn't playing seriously at all. Even less so after I couldn't even get into tenpai for most of the hands.

>>4149340
Build this.

http://ketto.com/zw/wasidai.shtml

>>4149440
Alright. So, I've got the cigarette ash, and the blood draining machine. All I need now is the mansion, the 6 million yen, and the table.

Oh, and I also need quasi-religious pantings and some fancy clothes.

>>4148892
>>4148855
3P isn't that bad.
You have at least a decent chance of coming back from something like this while in 4P it is a MANGAN grind after someone dealer mangan tsumo.

>>4149440
I've always wondered. It should be pretty easy to steal a tile for later use since there is no wall to check for missing tiles.

People only exclude 3p when they see stuff like this happen. "lol 3p is completely luck based anybody can get that"

What's funny is that all my 1st turn richis have come in 4p. Has anybody got a Heaven's Hand in Tenhou yet?

>>4149466

i don't think so

>>4149466
what are the chances of that anyway? I wouldn't be surprised to see that there actually hasn't been enough games in tenhou played for the hand to actually become statistically possible

>>4149466
Stop doing viral marketing about your 3p crappy yakuman. 3p yakuman is as easy as 4p pinfu.

>>4149487

It was a double yakuman

>>4149481
>statistically possible
isn't is statistically speaking the chance to get it just as high as any other possible combination?

>>4149487

http://tenhou.net/sc/prof.html

天和 0.00016 13.00 13.00 0.00 0.00

To put this in KoG faggot terms, comparing 3p and 4p hands is like comparing /a/ and /b/. KoG getting a Double Yakuman in 3p is the equivalent of him getting 22M on /a/.

Am I a huge faggot now?

>>4149502

>>4149502

surprisingly accurate

>>4149502
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>>4149607
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3P, anyone?

>>4149660
>3P
Only if it's MFF. I'm not fond of tag-teams.

>>4135957

Would anyone like me to change the rules from Nashi to Ari?

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